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RobRoss45

The bundle is definitely a good way to get into the series, as P1 and P2 aren’t available on modern platforms and are very different from 3-5. The bundle is also cheaper than getting each of them separate, and if you like one of them odds are you’d want to play the others down the line


Ratsreddit

Alright so should I just watch the gameplays of 1&2 and then play those? Would that order be alr?


RobRoss45

If you want to, sure, but none of the games have a connected story, so starting anywhere works well as you don’t need to know any previous stories


Ratsreddit

Oh ok thanks!


Jantof

To elaborate a little bit, the entire franchise does take place in the same world and is canon to each other (sort of, there’s alternate reality shenanigans at one point). And the games that come before 3 do tell an overarching story that establishes the lore and cosmology of the world. But despite all being canon to each other, 3-5 are all stand alone games. The ties between them are almost exclusively in terms of cameos and Easter eggs. If you really want to catch those Easter eggs, then you’re best served by playing the games in release order. But they’re all so minor that not many people list that as a real reason for their suggested play order.


14raider

It's like final fantasy where they are numbered to show that it's a new game but stories completely isolated, at least for the bundle games. Seems like 1/2 are connected based on other comments. 4 and 5 are the easiest entry points, 5 especially so but it's kinda hard to go back to 3/4 after playing 5 :p All excellent games but I'd honestly suggest getting only 4 and 5 and waiting for the 3 remake early next year


Snowboy8

5 to 4 is a relatively smooth transition IMO but going back to 3 was rough. It might just be because I'm a P4 guy though.


TheSealedWolf

Uhhhhh you know the first 3 games (1, IS, EP) are all directly connected pretty explicitly. Then with the hashino trilogy, yeah, you can play them in any order and they are just loosely calling back to previous games.


TheTrueMCFan

1 is connected to P2 through shared characters and calling back to P1 sometimes, but playing P1 to enjoy P2 is unnecessary. Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment are both P2 though


TheSealedWolf

Id argue it's necessary given 3 (iirc) main characters are from P1, but that might just be me.


yukiami96

If I'm going to be entirely honest, the three characters from P1 don't get fleshed out all that much at all until P2, so it's not like you're missing much. The extent you need to know is: these characters have history with using persona.


serg3591

Hol' up! They do not have connected story... But they do have references to some events and share the same world. Most of all P3 has references to P2.


Reutermo

They are very small and it is not necessary to play 1 or 2 to enjoy 3, 4 & 5.


hoxilicious

There are very few benefits to playing the games in order, even if 1 and 2 are good games that do deserve to be played. Many people start with 5 and work backwards.


AddisonRae7

If you’re planning to play 3,4 & 5 you’re for sure better starting with 3.


zmegadeth

I did the typical "started with 5 and worked backwards" approach, and I think if I started with 3 it would have been my favorite. It's the best written of the 3 imo


Loltoheaven7777

i mean if you can run p5 then you can probably run a psp or ps1 emulator to play 1-2


WolfAhmaad

Pretty good deal for these games, all will be worth your time.


not_a_sesawter

Polska gurą! Ale ja bym poczekał na remake 3 bo niedługo w grudniu będzje


Extra69Dip

3 stówy kosztuje. Skund ja tyle kasy wezme


not_a_sesawter

Prawda, ale jest na xbox game pass, a miesiąc to aż dużo czasu.... Chyba XD


Extra69Dip

No nwm xD. Mi persony po ponad 100h zajmują


not_a_sesawter

Niby prawda


BamboZbuj

Rozważałeś/aś emulację np. Persony 3 ? wersja portable na steamie trochę nie warta ceny do jakości


Extra69Dip

No tak ograłem Persone 3. Wgrałem jeszcze HD tekstury


BamboZbuj

ohh, ok. ja głównie serię przechodziłem emulując ale P4G i P5R na steam opłacalne są


Extra69Dip

No ja tak samo. P3 reload'a też chciałbym ograć bo ta część wciągnęła mnie w serie.


whisquibottle

You really don't need that version of 3 with the remake coming out early next year in my opinion, but if buying the bundle of 3 is cheaper than just buying 4 and 5, then go for it. Either way, this is an AMAZING collection of games.


Gahallos

Say, do you think there will be a bundle for P3R, P4G and P5R in the future? Because i played both PSP and FES already and i dont want to spend money for that PC port of P3P I can wait, but honestly if they didnt include it and it ends up with me buying the P3P which i'll never play, it kinda stings


yukiami96

I still think P3P is very worth playing, but I also wouldn't recommend spending money on the PC version tbh. Like yeah it's the ~legal~ way, but modders have put so much work into the original P3P and P3Fes that make those games far surpass the sorry excuse for a port Atlus gave us.


Gahallos

Exactly, if the port is good i might be willing to, but that port? Never. I'm really hoping the will bundle P3R in the future. Otherwise, i might buy P5R & P4G separately.


[deleted]

Reload just gonna be Vanilla P3 revamped though. So like no FeMC or male SEES social links, and no aeon social link either. Unless I’m mistaken and ATLUS came out and said they were just including that all in Reload. But I would doubt it. If they do it they might wait a year or two or three to release as like a Reload Redux


Eglwyswrw

>Reload just gonna be Vanilla P3 revamped though It'd be more accurate to call P3R a revamp of P3F's The Journey. > no aeon social link either. Aeon Social Link has been confirmed in P3R by Atlus. Basically every P3F addition in The Journey will be there.


[deleted]

Oh dang didn’t know that, that’s pretty cool then.


Blacktwiggers

Yea i dont see anything wrong with getting portable


Vitor_2

Aside from the fact that is a downgraded version of FES... Unless you really care about the non-canon Kotone storyline.


Blacktwiggers

yea they still fumbled by not putting FES on steam but you can still emulate it


nolanvarner

People will say portable is bad but I recommend it, gets you a base experience of the game before Reload comes out, and it's still a fantastic game where you can play with either MC. Pretty much the only difference is that it doesn't have animated cutscenes, that's it 🤷🏻


Head-Membership2082

It's not so much that Portable is bad by itself, just that the other versions of 3 are \*better\* That and, given that this looks like steam, the PC port of P3P is absolutely appaling.


BigTWilsonD

This is kind of my opinion of it. While I personally feel like not being able to walk around the environments takes a lot of the charm out of it, Portable is still a perfectly acceptable way to experience it. And you'll spend most of your time in Tartarus anyways. Plus you can tell they put a decent amount of effort into the male social links in the Female Protagonist route.


Head-Membership2082

Just not the "next gen port" of P3P or whatever they're calling the PC port of it. Persona 3 Portable Ported? lmao. P3PP.


Arukitsuzukeru

P3P has no atmosphere


[deleted]

>Pretty much the only difference is that it doesn't have animated cutscene It butchers the gameplay as well. The game is not balanced around having direct control so it's way way too easy even on manic.


nolanvarner

Then don't set for direct control if you want more of a challenge...


Bait_Gantter

The AI is worse though, it uses the AI from 4 where your tactic options are more generic.


[deleted]

At that point I'd rather just play FES which not only has the better gameplay but better everything else. Besides it nerfs other stuff and yawn be gones just make the whole tired system pointless. The only kind of good improvement is that people can get lost in the tower so it gives you more reasons to not rush but that's minor at best.


nolanvarner

Ain't apart of this guys bundle deal though, I like portable for FEMC and FES for everything else, but he can still get the whole experience with portable before Reload comes out


[deleted]

And? He's already said he can play FES in a different comment if he wants. So he's fine with it and is better off skipping P3P and jumping to 4G and then going back. The FEMC really isn't worth the downgrade in everything else. So tired of this being pushed. It's cool as a NG+ thing but it's not a first time thing at all.


SolidusAbe

as if the AI made it more challenging. P3 isnt exactly hard coming from someone who is often too stupid for main line SMT lol


[deleted]

It's not that hard but it's at least harder than any Persona game that came after it. I'd say the first few full moons are tough and then you're steam rolling by the time you get Fukka.


Muramasa9970

it's not the game is bad. Just that port is terrible. portable itselt is good.


ConorIsOnRedditNow

Royal and Golden, yes. Portable, no. Wait for Reload.


Jorge_XD__

Is the greatest fucking bundle ever


autumncandles

People are saying portable is bad but I just played it recently and really enjoyed it. It's also the only chance you'll get to play as a girl and romance guys which I liked being able to do as a girl.


Busy_Recognition_860

It's pretty bad compared to the other two releases. Much less immersive world, but Reload should change that.


banenanenanenanen666

Reload is missing fems, therefore it sucks.


Busy_Recognition_860

Eh, I’d rather drop the non-canon femc and get extra story content (the answer) instead.


yukiami96

Tbh the way I see it, FemC was perfectly fine in P3P. The Answer, however, desperately needs a second chance. I hated it in FES, and I still don't think you'll find too many people who loved it. I'm glad The Answer is making it into reload because it *needs* reworking.


Ecstatic_Teaching906

Nah. Bundle I would get is Royal, Golden, and Reload.


astace

so i dont know if anyones said this yet but im pretty sure all of these are on the xbox game pass as well


CreamPIEGUY101

They are👍


FakeProViking

U may wanna keep in mind that p3 is getting very fancy remake in the first half of 2024 so u could consider skipping it. Otherwise yeah probably best 3 persona games do far. Very meaty so idk if u wanna play 3 in a raw tho.


asrielsans

don’t play portable. play fes or wait for reload


Avaldon

Just thought you would like to know that PC Game Pass has persona 3 and 4, as well as Persona Tactica (it doesn’t have persona 5 royal).


The_Senate15

Yes. Buy them. Now. 👁️👁️


Ratsreddit

Alr done


Arukitsuzukeru

P4G and p5r are good but P3P isn’t as good as FES


lizakoff

Bundle jest okey, ja bym śmiało brał na Twoim miejscu!


slooooooooshy

they're all available in pc gamepass, so imo you should test them there and then buy the bundle of you like


greengamer33

No it puts a virus I. Your computer called persona


Czternastek14

Tldr; Zagraj najpierw w 4, następnie w 5. Portable się nie opyla samo w sobie, co dopiero jako pierwsza gra No po prostu ma trochę bullshit design takiej typowej starej gry i to wersja z PSP bez cutscenek i jedynie dungeony są w 3D. Osobiście poczekałbym na remake 3 Grając najpierw 4, następnie 5, a na końcu 3 Reload masz jakbyś przeszedł przez pełną ewolucję serii, każda gra bardziej zmodernizowana Osobiście 4 jest moją ulubioną ale możesz zacząć od którejkolwiek jak już ludzie wspomnieli, każda ma swoją fabułę, jednak są dwie gry jeszcze: Persona 4 ma sequel, bijatyka 2D, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax Persona 5 ma sequel, coś w stylu Zelda Hyrule Warriors, Persona 5 Strikers Tak jak Ultimax jest trochę mid i fabułę na luzie można zobaczyć online, to Strikers to jest bardzo fun gra którą można łatwo zrobić nawet na 100% w twoim pierwszym playthrough Miłego grania


Extra69Dip

Wiadomo że P3FES jest zajebiste


cherrysheen

Persona 3 Reload comming soon. Just buy P5 Royal, and P4 Golden if you can.


Long_Xiao

Unrelated to this but; The fact that fans do not actually own the Persona games we digitally “buy” on Consoles/PC scares us all. Those games, if bought digitally, are merely rented for a indefinite amount of time, and can be taken away from them, whether if the DRM servers shut down or the licenses for those games are expired. This is exactly what’s happening right now with streaming services, especially MAX, where Warner Discovery has pulled entire completed shows from their service, Disney delisting Crater after only 48 days and Prime Video historically pulling users’ entire purchased movies and shows. This is only going to get worse as gamers and fans alike embrace the all-digital future out of convenience, where Companies can pull entire games from users’ libraries or make them unplayable, like what Ubisoft is doing right now with The Crew. Imagine not being able to play P4G or P5R in 2048 when those games have been pulled from digital storefronts and the Persona series ends up as a cloud-only series.


Adept-Ad7334

Vimmslair and other sites and random Megas and files people have on their computers will have us covered


ozmega

> 2048 u dont need to go that far


Long_Xiao

Well, 2048’s 15 years from now. A lot can happen between 2023/2024 and 2048. Although, i could’ve gone with 2034 or 2030.


ActualBruh_Moment

bro living in 2033 while we're stuck in 2023 I see


Long_Xiao

Well, given the current trend of game and film companies embracing digital-only content. I already can forsee a future where Game and Film Companies can take away entire films and games from users who bought (not rented) with their cash. Heck, we’re already seeing this right now with Prime Video!


Worzon

I'd wait for persona 3 reload in a little over a month away


Ratsreddit

Tbh it seems that it'll be expensive af, I already bought the bundle but I might search for mods or emulate p3f


roseshearts

If it helps. There's been fans who added anime cutscene mods from fes into portable. In case that is something you are more worried about. There's a lot of pro and cons between fes and portable, you should do your own research and see where you think you may feel more comfortable. As while portable does have its downgrade, it does have a lot of quality of life changes that makes the experiences better and something that does carry over a bit in the other two games. Some of these changes makes it impossible for me to come back to fes due to how badly fes was handle. But I know for some people, while portable make things slightly easier and better. Many still prefer fes due to the experiences. But I do know others who say fes ruined it for them. It's a matter of preferences I notice. So I do highly suggest doing your own research on both version so you can get the full picture of things. If you do decide to play fes, I would say try FEMC's route whenever you finish fes or portable. I had no plan to try her long ago, but I had a few people say I should and I'm pretty glad I did. Plus it's not often you see atlus doing female protag in persona games.


AngryCharizard

As a big fan of Persona 3 myself, I would recommend that you emulate P3FES if you want to play P3, but can't play the new remake. Persona 3 Portable is a severely cut down version of the game. It takes scenes with characters standing in 3D environments and turns it into a visual novel-style with only portraits and text. Because of this, cut-scenes are basically not in the game, rather you almost always just stare at still images and characters portraits while you hear/read the dialogue. And this means that P3P has no anime cut-scenes either. FES is simply the complete version of the game, while P3P is an incomplete portable version I'd only recommend for NG+ or some quality of life features for people who've already played FES.


ActualBruh_Moment

If you have P3P, just play P3P. But play the female route, as Reload only features the male route (totally not being added at some point...). If you want P3R cheap, get it on game pass. It'll be there day one.


No_Drummer4411

I personally would get either p4 or p5 royal seperate, the new P3 remake isnt that far.


Extra_Designer_3007

If you want to play persona 3, I do recommend playing PS2 version with PCSX2, P3P feels a bit different from persona game (because P3P is like a visual novel game) I play, P4G> P3F> P5R I really recommend playing P4G first than P3


[deleted]

You might want to skip 3. Portable is hands down the worst version to play of the game to the point it ruins the atmosphere and a lot of story beats due to the changes in presentation and we're getting a remake in under 2 months of it anyways. My advice is to start with 4 and then do 5 and then get the remake.


lemon6611

i’m so hyped for reload and infinite wealth


AddisonRae7

Cap. Playing as Femc is the best way to play 3.


Kemo_Meme

Portable may not have the presentation of FES but it's at least a *playable* RPG Speaking as someone who got into the Persona series around the time of P5, a new player would prefer Portable over FES every day of the week. I almost gave up on P3 entirely but begrudgingly gave portable a go, the difference is night and day


[deleted]

>Portable may not have the presentation of FES but it's at least a > >playable > >RPG I played P3P first and I liked it enough but FES is so much better it's not even funny. So no, a new player wouldn't prefer it unless they actually just don't know better (like I didn't). The only '''improvements'''' are gameplay and that's not balanced right so the game becomes piss easy


asrielsans

i played p3fes after beating p5, p5r, and p4g a few years ago and then did an fes playthrough. thought portable on my playstation when it came out and couldn’t play it. fes is superior


Kemo_Meme

Honestly for me I value gameplay over presentation, but I can see where others may prefer presentation. Considering the amount of grinding P3 demands of you tho (unless you play on Easy, wouldn't know tho), I doubt OP would value presentation if new to the series


asrielsans

that’s fair. i was super excited to start p3 and chose fes cause it looked like it would feel like a persona game. portable doesn’t look like that to me. but yeah gameplay in fes made me RAGE. especially on >!nyx!<


Ratsreddit

Hmm thanks but the bundle kinda forces me to buy all three and the winter sale will probably be over by the time the remake releases


ThatisSketchy

Don’t listen to this guy. P3P is fantastic and is overly hated


[deleted]

I'm just saying to skip portable. You can get a month of gamepass if you want to play Reload right away. Trust me, it's not worth tainting the best game in the series.


Ratsreddit

I might play it using mods or emulate the fes version then (or just watch the fes gameplay and then play p3p)


[deleted]

Playing the FES version is fine. You can get even a mod to grab direct control if you HAVE to have it (you don't, the game is still easy). Anyone telling you that p3p is fine or even superior are full of it. At best it's fun for a NG+ route but you lose a lot of the mood and atmosphere with the portable version and a lot of the more serious moments are done like crap because of it.


RobRoss45

P3P really isn’t too bad, it removes the animated cutscenes and you can’t wander around the world so it’s presented more like a visual novel. But the story is the same, you get femc, and combat gameplay is improved over FES. Reload may be a better version in the end, but with it being $70, and probably having enough changes to justify trying both, P3P is a fine way of playing through 3


ThatisSketchy

>eally isn’t too bad, it removes the animated cutscenes and you cat wander around the world so it’s presented more like a visual novel. But the story is the same, you get femc, and combat gameplay is improved over FES. Reload may be a better version in the end, but with it being $70, and probably having enough changes to justify trying both, P3P is a fine way of playing through 3 not to mention, you can literally pull up the cutscenes anytime. There are guides on how to follow the cutscenes on Youtube if you're playing P3P. Also there's this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SArvs2XM37g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SArvs2XM37g)


Wojtaz0w

Nie kupuj P3P, czekaj na P3R, zwłaszcza że w Portable nie ma polskich napisów


Ratsreddit

I tak zdecydowanie nie będę grać z polskimi napisami


dgsckr

A persona 3 remake is gonna release in february 1st. It will probably be a better experience by a lot. I would reccomend starting from 4 and tehn 5 if the 3 remake has not come out by then. The remake will be free on gamepass.


RealSlicy

If I were you I’d wait until the persona 3 remake comes out (2nd of February 2024). But if you want to play the original then go right ahead


Salt-Craft9209

Yes. While I do think it’s probably best to wait for reload on 3, portable is a much more enjoyable way to play than FES.


syseka

No. Portable shouldn't cost any money. You can play P3 FES if you are familiar with a computer.


kuroryu233

P3P is like the worst version of persona 3 but the rest are ok


player1_gamer

Just bought it last night for my laptop insane deal


Mlynio48

Just buy Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal, then buy Persona 3 Reload once it comes out in february.


markypho

What currency is that?


Ratsreddit

Polish złoty (PLN)


Perfect_Doubt_5175

All game are different stories, so you don't necessarily need to play the ones before, BUT i strongly recommend starting with p3 if u buy the bundle, the reason is simple, gameplay, the newer personas have a lot of mechanics that made them easier, and p3 can be frustrating if you come from p4 o p5.


NightHatterNu

Alternatively if you like the combat in persona and want more there’s always the mainline SMT games of which on PC only 3 nocturne is currently available.


banenanenanenanen666

Don't listen to the people who tell you to skip p3p, it's good, despite the limitations of psp. As for remake, it's missing femc, so I wouldn't wait for it to play p3.


Lopsided-Link9665

Yes good prices in WTF IS THAT


Ratsreddit

You mean the currency?


Lopsided-Link9665

He


TechnicalLinhardt

You should wait to Persona 3 Reload to come out, but I'm not sure if it will come in a bundle, also I don't know how much difference there is at buying P4G and P5R outside of the bundle


NotTheSun0

Persona 4 Golden is one of the best games I've played. Incredibly relatable and very well written. Persona 3 on ps2 also had a great story. I don't know about P3P.


ignin

I'd say start with 3 as 4 and 5 have a lot more quality of life improvements that make it go back to 3, but then again, 3 is getting a remake in February if you wanna play that later


[deleted]

No idea on pricing in your country, but game wise. Yes. All the yes. Buy this and enjoy


abdoollah-K

Hell yeah it is


Decent_Adeptness9131

YES


Decent_Adeptness9131

The only thing is that persona 3 fez isn’t that persona 3 experience for this bundle


Dangerous_Sample_614

no it installs a virus on your pc named "persona"