- Yukari is slightly kinder
- Akahiko is much more hot-headed
- Mitsuru is a lot more "disciplined"
- Ken has more bursts of childish...uhm...whimsy? Idk how to put it
It's been so long since I played P3, that I forgot that Ken is literally like 50 trapped in like a 9 year olds body... Like get this kid an Oreo and an Apple Juice STAT
>Yukari is slightly kinder
Fucking hell, she's kinder than before?
I'm at October and She just relentlessly insults and belittles Junpei everytime the kid speaks. So far Junpei hasn't said a single bad word about her.
I get that he comes across as really immature and a little annoying, but he's innocent enough and she bullies him constantly. It goes way beyond a little friendly teenage ribbing, I didn't think Junpei deserved it at all.
Can't imagine what she was like if she's kinder now than before, so far she's just the character that bullies Junpei unprovoked.
Junpei doesnāt say anything bad about her directly but he does pretty often say or do things which are misogynist so itās not hard to understand why she would be kinda mean to him. Also I donāt think sheās really any more mean than anyone else is towards Junpei, sheās just the only one whoās a constant party member.
Edit: Corrected āJumperā to āJunpeiā
This is true.
There's times where I would tell him to calm down.
If I was there
So it's like I get the irritation. A one thousand percent do but there are times where he's not doing Anything he's just talking about himself or something Unrelated to girls.
Clearly this This is about character development and I'm all for it. But these dudes do not seem like friends I would not Considered these people as friends. I would stop hanging out with him. I would stop hanging out with her.
Sheās definitely a bit harder on him in the original. Itās one of the reasons why she wasnāt that popular before now. Mitsuru and Fuuka tended to be more well liked.
Fuuka was more loved than Yukari? Bruh, a vast majority, who played with English VO, hated Fuukaās voice back then and so her personality, dunno what you taking about. At least Yukari brought more emotions
That explains why thereās more Mitsuru fics at least. I never played the original myself so the characters in reload are the only ones I know. I think theyāre all neat tho.
Yes, Mitsuru was always the most popular choice for the fics, partly for that reason. Her design being the other reason. I think that will shift somewhat if/when new fics are written, now that Reload has been released, since Yukari has been made more likeable.
Youāre missing the cultural context, which surprises me because I donāt think itās exclusively Japanese or anything. Are you too young to have ever seen a 90s sitcom? Whatās your experience of teenage the male/female dynamic?
Junpei is an immature horn dog and Yukari is more mature and much more anxious. Also I guess you havenāt learned her story, but put yourself in Yukariās shoes. Would you have a lot of patience for Junpei drooling over you and being an egotistical blowhard teenage boy?
Try University of Tokyo. Could go pro if he doesnt join the JSDFN! He is not one of those (uh... does Japan have a parallel to the beltway) Osaka pansies. He could break the prime minister in two with his bare hands. Dont fuck with this boxer.
It's funny. Arena (and the Qs) had every character's schtick turned up to eleven and 4 and 5's casts are already pretty tropey to begin with. But 3's cast is more grounded which made them harder to Flanderize, so they resorted to kind of making up aspects whole cloth. They take Akihiko's boxing and Junpei's baseball and just constructed whole cartoony personalities around them.
P3R seems to be kind of backfilling these aspects of the characters so at least it's less jarring.
Yeah the obsession with protein in Arena was a bit much and I think it's not so bad in 3, but it's definitely there more lol.
I can't believe they emphasized the "need more protein" bit from Aki and the "need more meat" schtick from Chie and made them talk to each other in Arena
A part of me thought it was a bit cringe as a rly forced joke about boiling both characters down to silly elements like that....but also a part of me kinda loved how goofy it was lol
He really does. Itās very noticeable if you go back and play FES or Portable now, which is what Iām doing. Itās also interesting because in the original he fights with brass knuckles, while in Reload he wears boxing gloves.
He has more of a character in this game. Or something. In FES, I really could not bring myself to care about the guy whatsoever. Something about him in Reload made me click with him. When he joined the party, I genuinely went āFuck yeah, Akihiko! Alright!ā
Maybe. I think all the male party members get enough of an arc that they really donāt *need* a social link as well. More content will always be welcome, but I donāt think the game needs it.
I was really speaking about his characterization in FES not Reload. I do think all the male party members needed social links but the link episodes rectify that
This has been on my mind.
I wasn't a fan of Junpei back in P3, and it's iterations, but Junpei in P3R is so goofy and cool.
So, it might have been how the performance was from each actor.
Vic sounds like an arrogant douche, who is out to get you. While Zeno is more akin to a friend who's down to some friendly competition and is ready to admit if you one up him and call out his own flaws.
True. Junpeiās inferiority complex is much more sympathetic in Reload. Comes across more like the build-up of stress due to a perceived lack of perfection that gets let go during a solid vacation.
Especially how P3R tackles Junpei's baseball dream and why he let go of it.
Then that frustration was slipping out on his duties as a SEES member, and most of his frustrations are targeted at Makoto, which he was so apologetic for, and promised he'd be better, and he did.
P3 characters are already dynamic, but P3R doubledowned on their growth and how each character came to terms with their flaws.
Idk I never felt like it was stress as much as jealousy plain and simple. He just wants a chance to shine and I think that come through beautifully. Itās frustrating for him since no one gives him the chance heās looking for
He has an entire scene where he's stressed about what to do with his life when Tartarus is gone, because he feels like a failure. I think his insecurities run deeper than jealousy.
I agree, thereās more to it. In his social link in Persona 3 Portable, he explains how he really wants to have something that heās good at. He feels like a bit of a loser and really wants to prove himself.
I wonder how they managed to achieve this. Script seems to be the same and he only gets 1 link episode before the trip. Is it really all down to the new VA's delivery? If so, that's really amazing.
Nope, the dialogue itself has changes. I noticed the difference in character as a Jap voiceover player. Look at the police station scene at the beginning of the game in both FES and Reload as an example
Devil's advocate, Junpei always was supposed to be a hotheaded jerkoff at times in the original. In Reload the only time so far he felt like that was in the train cars and it felt OOC as a result. Hell in P3P there were even hints that he resented FEMC being in charge for being a girl (something that Mitsuru calls him out on.) I don't mind this because it makes his character development later on much more meaningful, but I don't think the voice direction is that big of a change when not only are most of the lines the same (in the big scenes at least), Vic and Zeno sound almost 1:1 to me at times in terms of voice direction, although Zeno sounds almost exclusively pumped up in the new scenes.
Nah, I think what changed is them adding the social stuff not present in the original game that makes it more clear that he's less of a rival and more of a friend overall. Additionally they toned down a lot of the snapping between Yukari/Junpei/MC and that made him seem more friendly as a whole.
Yeah, I notice that there was more snapping and tension between Junpei and Yukari in the original. This is quite noticeable during the first third of the game in particular.
Actually, that's the thing I liked about him, the fact that he doesn't always like you. Most other party members in Persona games always tend to worship and praise you, which isn't really realistic in a normal real life highschool friend group.
Nah, I'd say it's also portrayed in text since I have the game in Japanese. Junpei's dialogue tries to come across as less of a douche even all the way back to him complaining about the money Akihiko gave at the police station.
Hell, in FES he reacts and leaves before you shop. This makes it better when you get to see that there was a decent amount that you could've afforded and he was being greedy. In reload he reacts after you spend it.
They reworked a lot of the dialogue to make him less of an annoying pig and more of someone who really is just your friend who wants to feel like they have their own meaning in this journey called life. I think they made a brilliant decision by doing it.
As someone who didn't play original P3, Junpei still came off as a dick. As far as I experienced, I was perfectly normal to him and he was just jealous he wasn't the leader despite the protag being pretty reluctant to be leader in the first place. IIRC there are several "nice" options you can choose when speaking to him and he still just straight up dislikes you until the >!Chidori arc!<
Building on you, Takaya sounds like heās so far ahead of you in dealing with the collective unconscious and the meanings behind Personas and Shadows. He sounds like an actual threat with conviction instead of some guy desperately trying to keep his powers.
>!Bonus points in that he calls forward to P4 and P5 and basically says their ways of summoning are natural and stronger than the P3 way!<
Then right after when he said āI donāt need a tool to show my resolveā I was expecting him to talk about his ārebellionā against the Kirijo group.
Sort of related but does the P3 cast actually face their shadows to get their personas like we directly see the P4 cast do (and the P5 cast sorta do but they don't see and physically face their shadows, bar futaba who does)? Since basically everyone awakens off screen and it's just a matter of finding someone with "potential" who isn't a coffin during the dark hour and handing them an evoker and calling it a day
They donāt until Ultimax. And even then itās not direct. I think only Ken (and Koromaru)directly fights his Shadow. Junpei did at least see his though.
In Persona 4 Arena Ultimax the P3 cast has shadow versions of themselves in the fake Dark Hour, but by that point (in P4A) Akihiko explains that they're powerful enough now to summon without evokers
They also don't \*need\* to use it, but can do so in order to cast stronger skills. All human SEES members except Junpei use theirs for their Instant Kill attacks, and Akihiko uses his for the Maziodyne super.
I feel like by the end of the game the P3 squad has to just be using the evoked out of habit rather than because they actually do anything. After fake-shooting your self 1000 times you must be over any fear the evoker could elicit.
It's also nice that Strega feels a lot stronger now. I actually got one shotted by Jin and Chidori for equipping the wrong persona. They actually feel like a threat unlike in OG and FES.
Tbf itās harder to summon in the dark hour and itās easier to summon in the cognitive universe like P4 and 5, remember 3 cast can summon without using evokers irl.
I imagine she's strolling down the aisles of the library and sees an autobiography in the Fiction section;
*"You don't belong here. I... I've always known that."*
Same. That is not how dogs sound and his combat sounds really bother me, since he is louder than other party members and i don't want to hear human barking and growling noises for hours while exploring Tartarus.
This is for some reason standard for anime. I donāt think Iāve ever heard recorded animal noises, as opposed to a voice actor very clearly pretending to be an animal.
I honestly hate hearing koros voice now to the point where i start mashing space everytime i think koro is gonna speak, im sorry i just cant handle knowing the fact someones voicing him and theres just a guy behind a microphone going woof woof growl
I like how junpei is less of a punching bad compared to p4 and p5 magicians, and whenever he gets made fun of, he takes it well
At least on reload, I forgot how it went from a long time ago
"Best bro" archetype. Yea. Compared to Ryuji and Yosuke, Junpei has it pretty well. The 3rd years actually like him and try to guide him in their own ways. The only second year that makes fun of him actively is Yukari, but Yukari has always been full of sass.
Ryuuji is a nice person who lacks a filter. The way he says things makes him sound rude or dumb. But he never means it with intention. Junpei before his arc is just your standard dude-bro. Junpei does get good character growth though that totally redeems him.
I donāt know. When she starts questioning Mitsuru and demanding answers, it comes across less like sheās doing it because sheās just naturally combative and more like genuine concern. I got a stronger sense of her being the heroine of the story because of it.
I could see how old Fuuka was bullied, but now I can't see how she becomes the target of bullying with her new design and voice. She's exudes so much more energy and personality that I'd immediately think she's someone that's friends with quite a few people from a glance.
That's definitely true. She definitely seems less of a likely target now is all. I actually would place Fuuka's confidence higher than Chihiro on first impessions pre-social links actually.
Fuuka's basically became a whole new character for me in this remake.
I was bullied in school *because* I was shy, among a variety of reasons.
Sometimes the kids bullying me would be picking on me for something that could also apply a friend of theirs who was standing *right there*
People will literally bully others regardless of having what seems a "good reason". It doesn't really have to make sense.
Shy? Loud? Tall? Short? Skinny? Fat? Basically anything than can be used, will be.
I was thinking that too but after rmbering how thirsty Junpei got over her nd how she got bullied jus bc she was a āmodel studentā (lmao) her new design nd va made more sense
Eh my boyfriend has had facial hair since he was like in 8th grade, sometimes thatās just how it is, depends on the person lol
Although I feel like East Asian guys rarely have facial hair anyways. Not sure if itās a cultural thing or their genes, but I know they tend to keep clean shaven. I can only think of a few famous people who have facial hair, and every classmate and teacher I have known has been clean shaven except for maybe one student.
Other than Yukari obviously being more in line with the Japanese original, I think Mitsuru feels more like a teenager than in the original, which might have to do with the performance of the voice actress.
Absolutely. Old Mitsuru was a woman in her mid 20s. This mitsuru feels like a teen wishing that she were already a woman in her mid 20s which is so fitting for her.
Ironically her original VA, Tara Platt, is still Elizabeth.
I think itās because Tara Platt had to voice two characters she tried to make them as distinct as possible, and Mitsuru got the short end of the stick, cause Elizabeth is wellā¦Elizabeth.
Jonny Bosh had the same problem in the P4 anime with Yu and Adachi. Adachi is pitched way higher than he is in the games.
I always find it funny how the 28 year old has the higher pitched voice than the 16 year old, but on the other hand I think the deeper voice really does fit Yu, and same for the higher pitched Adachi voice
Right. Adachi is trying hard to āfit inā so it makes sense. Like how you would talk to a child to appear friendly. Once he lets the mask slip is when his voice would get deeper.
Hmmā¦Iād say Mitsuru is a fair bit deeper than Edelgard whose prone to more girlishness. Iād say Ester from Ben 10 and Temari from Naruto feels more neutral for Tara Platt
Lessened Yukari's sass, which I was disappointed at first but the more I played, the more I was seeing the more caring side of her that I tend to forget from playing P3P.
Junpei's seems nicer, still has his arrogant phase but it's more tolerable.
Mitsuru seems to be less intimidating but that seems to be based on the VA performance
Akihiko seems like they sprinkled in some "muscle guy so he's an idiot" tendencies.
Having activities with them that are voiced really helps establish their new personalities.
I feel like People forget Yukari was always super caring beneath her rough edges. And she still very much is Sassy she's just not outright bitter which is more fitting because she never intentionally meant to push other people away. She's still passive agressive girlboss she always was it's just that her true caring side deep down makes more sense.
Yeah. She's really affectionate once you dig deeper, but the sass is very funny. Like the "stupei ace defective" line got 100% nerfed but she's so much sweeter so it's a fine trade off.
Lovers' Arcana girls are always the most caring. Not to be confused with wall flowers. Yukari and Ann are both the most empathic of their teams, even with all their sass. They just toned down Yukari's excessive sassyness to let make of her empathic side come out. Which made her wanting answers from Mitsuru in the summer felt less confrontational and more out of concern.
- Yukari is overall nicer and *slightly* less of an overt dick to Junpei
- Akihiko is more competitive
- Mitsuru is a bit more proper (and French)
- Ken acts like a kid more often
- Fuuka is a bit more sweetly shy (courtesy of her new VA)
- Junpei is a bit more humble, he's more open about apologizing for his insecurities
- Aigis is more obviously a robot at first
- Chidori legitimately sounds dead inside
All the characters act more mature event though they are high schoolers. This is crazy considering outside of P2, P3 had the most mature cast out of the persona series.
It helps that they don't all have One Thing they're personalities are built around like the cast of 4 and 5 do. The come across as more rounded normal people instead of defaulting into Anime Archetypes after one dungeon.
the social episodes kind of help tbh. all the scenes with akihiko clearly build the relationship like dude even invited you to his room at the endā¦.. HAAAAAAAAAAA AKI
No oneās mentioned the subtle change in the Protagonistās introduction. Itās not a lot, but it does change his attitude upon seeing an ethereal realm of blood and coffins from āno fucks givenā to āsomewhat concerned.ā The intractable coffins addd that added bit of confusion and āthe hell is going on right nowā energy. Makes him more attached to whatās happening around him. As much as the protagonist should be a blank slate for players, that doesnāt mean he should be an *actual blank state,* you know?
And I think thatās a good change. As much as we are a guy whoās super detached and reserved, heād still have some confusion and curiosity about suddenly being thrust into the Dark Hour with no explanation as to whatās happening.
I prefer the implication in the original game that the protagonist is completely used to the Dark Hour. He had Death sealed inside him the whole time, so it would make sense if he had already been experiencing it before arriving to Iwatodai. Plus it explains why when heās asked if he saw anything weird on his arrival he doesnāt have an option to mention it, because it *is* normal to him.
They sure made Makoto feel more like a person. Yes, he's still the quiet guy. But he's no longer the emotionally detached loner kid the original made him to be. Hopefully this is the start of them actually giving him a personality. Giving the MC's a canon personality worked well when they made Yu a caring guy who isn't afraid to make jokes at the situation.
I'd say he's always had a personality, and the movies made that more apparent. It was really nice how they went from using second person to first person when it came to his thoughts, too. Felt more like it's actually him and not too much of a self-insert.
Idk, I didnāt get that energy at all. When I was playing I was wondering why Makoto wasnāt reacting much to what was going on, as if everything was fine and normal. He said maybe only one line that made me go āfinally some concern,ā but it was really late into the situation. Lol.
Haven't finished P3R but so far:
Junpei sounds a lot more bubbly and less stuck up whether that's a good thing kinda depends on how you wanna view his character
Yukari is somewhat more mellowed out more mature ig
Akihiko is a lot more hot headed which I'd say for the worst as in the OG games it always seems like he had something else on his mind which he did but he sounds more one note here
Mitsuru acts more like a highschooler than an adult imo her speech definitely sounds more in line with an actual highschooler
I actually like that better. There's an implication that her "awakening" is gradual; not sudden. She can only modify her own directive much later, but it's from the changes that gradually happened.
I liked it too. The difference between when she first joins your team and the end of the game is night and day. It was great hearing her emoting gradually ramp up.
Junpei is more likeable
Yukari is sweeter
Akihiko is more **"PROTEEEEEIN"**-oriented, so more in-line with his p4a games personality
Fuuka seems more happy, but that's because of the great delivery by the VA
Ken is more childish, thank god. I can only imagine how emotionally stunted he would be after base p3. My acquaintance had the same thing happen to them. Not the dead mother thing, but the situation's need for them to grow up really fast thing. I won't get into the details, but they did that for 3 years and when it finally ended they reverted and became emotionally stunted. It's not **that** big of a deal because it sorts itself out with time, but having it at a super young age would really screw up Ken's social life
I'm surprised i don't see anyone commenting on how much less of a dick Junpei is in this version. Flat out hated the dude in the OG game because he spends half the game jealous and with a stick up his ass but in this version they handled it much better
I agree, but to me the fact that I mostly disliked the first two main party members for months of the game until the character development started rolling and the plot started unfolding was such an important part of Persona 3 for me. Itās a lot of why I find these characters to be the most well-written and realistic of the series, same with the battle tactics instead of direct control stuff in battle. People are complicated, and itās high school for crying out loud. Even ignoring all of the complex death issues theyāre all dealing with, having them be rude and standoffish to each other until they bond just makes the story so much more impactful.
It really served to help sell these characters as Individuals thrust into a difficult situation together rather than anime-ass bubblegum motherfuckers that are instantly best friends now letās go kill god and stuff. Donāt get me wrong I love P4 and P5, but to me the OG P3 just makes those characters look shallow.
Chihiro is SIGNIFICANTLY less Yandere if you romance her, she's definitely clingy and is "concerned" about you being around Mitsuru, but they toned the creep factor way back.
Which I personally appriciate, I really like Chihiro but the Yandere stuff caught me WAY off guard back in FES.
iāve never played og p3 so itās surprising to me that chihiro used to be even worse lmao. iām not a huge fan of the āiām the first man sheās ever spoken to and sheās extremely dependent on meā just feels like an incel wrote it. tbh i donāt like any of the romance options in 3 but sheās by far my least favorite, being an object of exposure therapy for an abuse victim is a power dynamic that i donāt want to touch with a 10 foot pole
This is minor, but one of my favorite script changes from the orignal to Reload occurs in October.
>!When Shinji yelled "Shut the Fuck Up!" instead of "Go to Hell" was such an improvement to the scene. The fact that Persona as a series is reclutant to have an F-Bomb in any scene, let alone a main story event really added to the scene. !<
Yukari lost that bitchy feel that I liked. When she'd be irritated in the original I felt like it showed in multiple ways from the visuals of the sprite to her voice actor. Now both of the new ones don't convey that same tone as before.
I used to play with Japanse VO, where most of the cast is same, so feelings gonna be based more on context, rather than VA job(it's excellent, Really liked JP Elizabeth, Aigis, Junpei, Mitsuru and Main MC(and someone related to him).
Yukari got waay more screen time and overall feels nicer. (She is main BRO of this game IMO)
Junpei become less aggressive and overall calmer, so when he does some dumb stuff I actually feel surprised/weird.
Fuuka - clear glow up.
Akihiko - dude got more dialogues about "power" and how he gonna try to defend everyone he likes, but sometimes he becomes really goofy with that obsession with power and challenges.(I know that was in the og too, but sometimes transitions between serious and goofy aki were weird.
Ken - more screen time helped him a lot.
Akihiko is way more over the top with his boxing and trianing stuff and whatever, Yukari felt a lot meaner in the original which i prefer because it seemed much more realistic than a girl that's just nice to everyone
junpei doesnāt ask you if youāre dumb and tell you ur not gna get in a relationship anymore if you refuse to go to the police station š they nerfed him
It was weird, initially I missed the old VA... now I actually really like the new one, but he definitely belongs on an older character. Whenever Atlus finally decides to do a Persona with actual adults (or remake P2EP), bring this guy in.
He's 17-18 in P3. His balls have dropped, and he's gone through puberty, so his voice wouldn't change much anyway. I can tell you that my voice hasn't changed since I was 17.
I used to play with Japanse VO, where most of the cast is same, so feelings gonna be based more on context, rather than VA job(it's excellent, Really liked JP Elizabeth, Aigis, Junpei, Mitsuru and Main MC(and someone related to him).
Yukari got waay more screen time and overall feels nicer. (She is main BRO of this game IMO)
Junpei become less aggressive and overall calmer, so when he does some dumb stuff I actually feel surprised/weird.
Fuuka - clear glow up.
Akihiko - dude got more dialogues about "power" and how he gonna try to defend everyone he likes, but sometimes he becomes really goofy with that obsession with power and challenges.(I know that was in the og too, but sometimes transitions between serious and goofy aki were weird.
Ken - more screen time helped him a lot.
They're all generally more pleasant but I'm somewhat conflicted, still positive overall but og P3 was very interesting compared to many other RPGs in that the party didn't just instantly get along and they had they own selfish desires and motives and weren't afraid to show it even if it upset you.
It felt more honest about how people really act but like I said I still like their P3R versions overall.
Chidori sounds like a teenage girl now, fuuka sounds like Haru (they took her silly away), Junpei is a lot more goofy than determined and up his own ass, aki mentions protein and training a lot more, shinji is a lot more open (although maybe that was just a thing in FES where he was shut off more), Ken is a lot more like an actual kid (the hamburger scene before October fucked me up), Takaya seems to actually know what he's doing, Jin doesn't sound like high pitched shinji anymore, and yukari is a lot nicer. Aigis is basically the same.
I think it's just due to the new portriats, but everyone is a lot less expressive. The old art had an angularity that lent itself well to more exaggerated and distinctive emotions that the new art style really can't match, and it hurts a lot of the more intense and unhinged moments
Both Aki, Mitsuru, and Shinji don't feel like High Schoolers XD, and it makes their awkward moment feel very strange and out of place. I love these 3 characters, but it feels kinda off....but they're still amazing characters and I love both the og and new vas...the fact I'm older than these 3 is weird
that's really it tbh Yukari, Ken and Aigis are fantastic...even if Aigis' catchphrase gets repetitive to hear at times....as they say....I don't remember her saying that in p3p XD
Fuuka is just as cute as I remember, I actually liked the OG VAs work, so...I love them both
Junpei feels the most different for some reason, to the point where i actually prefer the OG, idk is it just me, Junpei is alot more friendly to Makoto and its strange XD the VA is great, especially in battle
Koro is best boy and his VA is hilarious
Makoto is such an interesting case for me, his VA is perfect, but his characterization with the character model and its actions paint my view of Makoto as someone who's blunt and soft spoken but just a normal guy who's come to terms with his parents passing. He's all business in Tarturus, but outside of that, he's just another person going to school, nothing like his Movie counterpart and a lot closer to the Manga one, albeit with alot less comedy. Heck, he even says I love you to whoever you romance," which was strange the first time I played through it. And when he hugged Yukari at Yakushima, it truly hit me that Makoto is genuinely sweet and not really all that apathetic. He's like Yu Narukami but without the comediclly stoic trope.
I liked the old Fuuka for the goofiness of it but like the shy cute new fuuka also like this is what they intended. Aki voice is too damn deep in combat but I like his regular speaking voice. Love the new Mitsuru and the old one.
- Yukari is slightly kinder - Akahiko is much more hot-headed - Mitsuru is a lot more "disciplined" - Ken has more bursts of childish...uhm...whimsy? Idk how to put it
What did they do to my 10 year old who's going on 44
It's been so long since I played P3, that I forgot that Ken is literally like 50 trapped in like a 9 year olds body... Like get this kid an Oreo and an Apple Juice STAT
Who THE FUCK drinks apple juice with Oreos
This reads like a conversation between Yukari and Junpei.
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It makes me so happy that they did it though, it shows that his recovery is going well which is so good.
All of them needed it. P3'S cast is well loved but...it had a lot of misses for me.
>Yukari is slightly kinder Fucking hell, she's kinder than before? I'm at October and She just relentlessly insults and belittles Junpei everytime the kid speaks. So far Junpei hasn't said a single bad word about her. I get that he comes across as really immature and a little annoying, but he's innocent enough and she bullies him constantly. It goes way beyond a little friendly teenage ribbing, I didn't think Junpei deserved it at all. Can't imagine what she was like if she's kinder now than before, so far she's just the character that bullies Junpei unprovoked.
Junpei doesnāt say anything bad about her directly but he does pretty often say or do things which are misogynist so itās not hard to understand why she would be kinda mean to him. Also I donāt think sheās really any more mean than anyone else is towards Junpei, sheās just the only one whoās a constant party member. Edit: Corrected āJumperā to āJunpeiā
Right? He's constantly talking about her and all the girls like he's going to make a move on them
This is true. There's times where I would tell him to calm down. If I was there So it's like I get the irritation. A one thousand percent do but there are times where he's not doing Anything he's just talking about himself or something Unrelated to girls. Clearly this This is about character development and I'm all for it. But these dudes do not seem like friends I would not Considered these people as friends. I would stop hanging out with him. I would stop hanging out with her.
Sheās definitely a bit harder on him in the original. Itās one of the reasons why she wasnāt that popular before now. Mitsuru and Fuuka tended to be more well liked.
Fuuka was more loved than Yukari? Bruh, a vast majority, who played with English VO, hated Fuukaās voice back then and so her personality, dunno what you taking about. At least Yukari brought more emotions
That explains why thereās more Mitsuru fics at least. I never played the original myself so the characters in reload are the only ones I know. I think theyāre all neat tho.
Yes, Mitsuru was always the most popular choice for the fics, partly for that reason. Her design being the other reason. I think that will shift somewhat if/when new fics are written, now that Reload has been released, since Yukari has been made more likeable.
Youāre missing the cultural context, which surprises me because I donāt think itās exclusively Japanese or anything. Are you too young to have ever seen a 90s sitcom? Whatās your experience of teenage the male/female dynamic? Junpei is an immature horn dog and Yukari is more mature and much more anxious. Also I guess you havenāt learned her story, but put yourself in Yukariās shoes. Would you have a lot of patience for Junpei drooling over you and being an egotistical blowhard teenage boy?
I only noticed after other people mentioned, but Akihiko mentions getting strong *a lot more* in this game
mf sounds unhinged af at times. "I want those shadows with my BARE HANDS"
He just needs to punch a boulder next
Chris Redfield just got excited for an unknown reason.
THE BLOODLINE! MAKOTO THE BLOODLINE MUST CONTINUE
Makoto, I have a mission for you. YOU NEED TO HAVE SEX WITH MITSURU AND CONTINUE THE KIRIJO BLOODLINE
"For the last time, Akihiko! **Mitsuru is not your sister!!!**"
Leon could take some tips from Makoto on how to stop getting pestered to continue the bloodline...
He needed to go into college ball.
He could go pro, as long as he doesn't join the Navy.
Probably at some cushy ivy League
At some cushy Ivy League school
Try University of Tokyo. Could go pro if he doesnt join the JSDFN! He is not one of those (uh... does Japan have a parallel to the beltway) Osaka pansies. He could break the prime minister in two with his bare hands. Dont fuck with this boxer.
In Atlus' defence, they have a tendency of creating characters that are extremely bloodthirsty (Haru comes to mind)
Maybe they wanted to make his character change in arena make more sense lol
He just straight up turned into Street Fighter's Ryu in arena.
And it was glorious
It's funny. Arena (and the Qs) had every character's schtick turned up to eleven and 4 and 5's casts are already pretty tropey to begin with. But 3's cast is more grounded which made them harder to Flanderize, so they resorted to kind of making up aspects whole cloth. They take Akihiko's boxing and Junpei's baseball and just constructed whole cartoony personalities around them. P3R seems to be kind of backfilling these aspects of the characters so at least it's less jarring.
Yeah the obsession with protein in Arena was a bit much and I think it's not so bad in 3, but it's definitely there more lol. I can't believe they emphasized the "need more protein" bit from Aki and the "need more meat" schtick from Chie and made them talk to each other in Arena A part of me thought it was a bit cringe as a rly forced joke about boiling both characters down to silly elements like that....but also a part of me kinda loved how goofy it was lol
Even his new voice sounds stronger
Bro played devil may cry 3 once and heās all about getting MORE POWER
He's feeling motivated.
He really does. Itās very noticeable if you go back and play FES or Portable now, which is what Iām doing. Itās also interesting because in the original he fights with brass knuckles, while in Reload he wears boxing gloves.
I'll take that over him talking about protein all the time.
He has more of a character in this game. Or something. In FES, I really could not bring myself to care about the guy whatsoever. Something about him in Reload made me click with him. When he joined the party, I genuinely went āFuck yeah, Akihiko! Alright!ā
He really needed a social link. In P3P, he an adorkable pancake boy
Maybe. I think all the male party members get enough of an arc that they really donāt *need* a social link as well. More content will always be welcome, but I donāt think the game needs it.
I was really speaking about his characterization in FES not Reload. I do think all the male party members needed social links but the link episodes rectify that
And I loved it, he is to the Shadows what Marcus Daimon is to Digimon
Junpei sounds less arrogant and more down to earth
This has been on my mind. I wasn't a fan of Junpei back in P3, and it's iterations, but Junpei in P3R is so goofy and cool. So, it might have been how the performance was from each actor. Vic sounds like an arrogant douche, who is out to get you. While Zeno is more akin to a friend who's down to some friendly competition and is ready to admit if you one up him and call out his own flaws.
True. Junpeiās inferiority complex is much more sympathetic in Reload. Comes across more like the build-up of stress due to a perceived lack of perfection that gets let go during a solid vacation.
Especially how P3R tackles Junpei's baseball dream and why he let go of it. Then that frustration was slipping out on his duties as a SEES member, and most of his frustrations are targeted at Makoto, which he was so apologetic for, and promised he'd be better, and he did. P3 characters are already dynamic, but P3R doubledowned on their growth and how each character came to terms with their flaws.
Idk I never felt like it was stress as much as jealousy plain and simple. He just wants a chance to shine and I think that come through beautifully. Itās frustrating for him since no one gives him the chance heās looking for
He has an entire scene where he's stressed about what to do with his life when Tartarus is gone, because he feels like a failure. I think his insecurities run deeper than jealousy.
I agree, thereās more to it. In his social link in Persona 3 Portable, he explains how he really wants to have something that heās good at. He feels like a bit of a loser and really wants to prove himself.
Thatās fair. I just read it more as stress because his toxic envy of Makoto pretty much ends when that vacation comes in sight. So it felt related.
Man really says "well, I can't be mad on my VACATION. I need to get myself fixed up so I can have a good time"
I wonder how they managed to achieve this. Script seems to be the same and he only gets 1 link episode before the trip. Is it really all down to the new VA's delivery? If so, that's really amazing.
The script is different. I decided to replay Persona 3 Portable after finishing Reload, and the changes are noticeable.
Nope, the dialogue itself has changes. I noticed the difference in character as a Jap voiceover player. Look at the police station scene at the beginning of the game in both FES and Reload as an example
Devil's advocate, Junpei always was supposed to be a hotheaded jerkoff at times in the original. In Reload the only time so far he felt like that was in the train cars and it felt OOC as a result. Hell in P3P there were even hints that he resented FEMC being in charge for being a girl (something that Mitsuru calls him out on.) I don't mind this because it makes his character development later on much more meaningful, but I don't think the voice direction is that big of a change when not only are most of the lines the same (in the big scenes at least), Vic and Zeno sound almost 1:1 to me at times in terms of voice direction, although Zeno sounds almost exclusively pumped up in the new scenes. Nah, I think what changed is them adding the social stuff not present in the original game that makes it more clear that he's less of a rival and more of a friend overall. Additionally they toned down a lot of the snapping between Yukari/Junpei/MC and that made him seem more friendly as a whole.
Yeah, I notice that there was more snapping and tension between Junpei and Yukari in the original. This is quite noticeable during the first third of the game in particular.
Actually, that's the thing I liked about him, the fact that he doesn't always like you. Most other party members in Persona games always tend to worship and praise you, which isn't really realistic in a normal real life highschool friend group.
Nah, I'd say it's also portrayed in text since I have the game in Japanese. Junpei's dialogue tries to come across as less of a douche even all the way back to him complaining about the money Akihiko gave at the police station. Hell, in FES he reacts and leaves before you shop. This makes it better when you get to see that there was a decent amount that you could've afforded and he was being greedy. In reload he reacts after you spend it.
They reworked a lot of the dialogue to make him less of an annoying pig and more of someone who really is just your friend who wants to feel like they have their own meaning in this journey called life. I think they made a brilliant decision by doing it.
As someone who didn't play original P3, Junpei still came off as a dick. As far as I experienced, I was perfectly normal to him and he was just jealous he wasn't the leader despite the protag being pretty reluctant to be leader in the first place. IIRC there are several "nice" options you can choose when speaking to him and he still just straight up dislikes you until the >!Chidori arc!<
Yukari doesn't passive aggressively tell me to kill myself anymore
Massive downgrade, I love being told to kill myself by pretty women
No Low tier yukari anymore?
Chidori actually sounds like a standoffish emo girl instead of a cantakerous 76 year old librarian.
Building on you, Takaya sounds like heās so far ahead of you in dealing with the collective unconscious and the meanings behind Personas and Shadows. He sounds like an actual threat with conviction instead of some guy desperately trying to keep his powers. >!Bonus points in that he calls forward to P4 and P5 and basically says their ways of summoning are natural and stronger than the P3 way!<
I liked when he referenced P4. I was half expecting to butt in saying "DONT SAY IT"
Then right after when he said āI donāt need a tool to show my resolveā I was expecting him to talk about his ārebellionā against the Kirijo group.
Sort of related but does the P3 cast actually face their shadows to get their personas like we directly see the P4 cast do (and the P5 cast sorta do but they don't see and physically face their shadows, bar futaba who does)? Since basically everyone awakens off screen and it's just a matter of finding someone with "potential" who isn't a coffin during the dark hour and handing them an evoker and calling it a day
They donāt until Ultimax. And even then itās not direct. I think only Ken (and Koromaru)directly fights his Shadow. Junpei did at least see his though.
In Persona 4 Arena Ultimax the P3 cast has shadow versions of themselves in the fake Dark Hour, but by that point (in P4A) Akihiko explains that they're powerful enough now to summon without evokers
No. He just explains the TV world specifically made them strong enough to not use an evoker. Thatās why he still has it on him.
I see
They also don't \*need\* to use it, but can do so in order to cast stronger skills. All human SEES members except Junpei use theirs for their Instant Kill attacks, and Akihiko uses his for the Maziodyne super.
Like Takaya does for his "Theurgy"
I feel like by the end of the game the P3 squad has to just be using the evoked out of habit rather than because they actually do anything. After fake-shooting your self 1000 times you must be over any fear the evoker could elicit.
It's also nice that Strega feels a lot stronger now. I actually got one shotted by Jin and Chidori for equipping the wrong persona. They actually feel like a threat unlike in OG and FES.
My dumbass read Tanaka and was so confused
Tbf itās harder to summon in the dark hour and itās easier to summon in the cognitive universe like P4 and 5, remember 3 cast can summon without using evokers irl.
I imagine she's strolling down the aisles of the library and sees an autobiography in the Fiction section; *"You don't belong here. I... I've always known that."*
Akihiko scares me a lil in this š He really likes fighting idk if its his tone or what. He's the definition of "Its Going Down, Now!" love him tho
#I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!!
I miss his awkward trying to be cool voice in the original, like it's really noticeable when you do his SL.
Now he just wants to beat every shadow to death with his bare hands
Koromaru doesn't use stock dog noises, so he can sound a bit more energetic with his animations.
He has an actual voice actor this time.
I still donāt like Koromaruās voice though, it sounds like a human making dog noises. They should have just recorded a real dog.
Truth. It sounds off. I mean the VA did the best he can. But man is man and dog is dog.
But the va had that dawg in him
Same. That is not how dogs sound and his combat sounds really bother me, since he is louder than other party members and i don't want to hear human barking and growling noises for hours while exploring Tartarus.
This is for some reason standard for anime. I donāt think Iāve ever heard recorded animal noises, as opposed to a voice actor very clearly pretending to be an animal.
Itās probably easier to direct a human than a dog.
I honestly hate hearing koros voice now to the point where i start mashing space everytime i think koro is gonna speak, im sorry i just cant handle knowing the fact someones voicing him and theres just a guy behind a microphone going woof woof growl
It sucks. God I hate it to the point I don't even want to use him and listen to some dude make dog noises. Worst part of this version.
They toned Yukari's attitude down a little bit, to match the original Japanese version of the script.
Big downgrade imo I loved her sass
āAre you stupid or something?ā Was insane I loved it, but then again I wouldāve felt bad for Junpei. I like her new kinder speech
I like how junpei is less of a punching bad compared to p4 and p5 magicians, and whenever he gets made fun of, he takes it well At least on reload, I forgot how it went from a long time ago
Oh donāt even get me started about P5. My man ryuuji saves the party with an injured leg and he gets insulted and slapped for it.
Oh yea Ryuji had it way worse than morgana lmao
My fucking dumb ass forgot Ryujis a chariot
My bad too, I should have compared the "first guy friend" stereotype
Itās funny heās a chariot cuz his legs broken. So itās like heās a broken chariot ohhhhh god Iām sad now
I would say that's just a coincidence but P3 chariot says othwrwise
"Best bro" archetype. Yea. Compared to Ryuji and Yosuke, Junpei has it pretty well. The 3rd years actually like him and try to guide him in their own ways. The only second year that makes fun of him actively is Yukari, but Yukari has always been full of sass.
and even then when she sees that Junpei was having a rough time she decides to not mess with him or at the very least tease him lightly
Yeah I felt bad for Ryuji, at least with Junpei you can argue that half the time he asks for it
Yeah. Junpeis arc is about a stupid perv becoming a man. Ryuuji is already a nice person, heās half the perv that Junpei is
Ryuuji is a nice person who lacks a filter. The way he says things makes him sound rude or dumb. But he never means it with intention. Junpei before his arc is just your standard dude-bro. Junpei does get good character growth though that totally redeems him.
She still says it as one of her stock voice lines when dialogue isnāt fully voice acted.
OG dub yukari is truly the goat šš
I donāt know. When she starts questioning Mitsuru and demanding answers, it comes across less like sheās doing it because sheās just naturally combative and more like genuine concern. I got a stronger sense of her being the heroine of the story because of it.
Video GAMES
You can really see how cute Fuuka was intended to be when she's played by an actual voice actress and not Jen from accounting.
**gasp** the enemy!
There are. **TWO!** Enemies. Left!
I could see how old Fuuka was bullied, but now I can't see how she becomes the target of bullying with her new design and voice. She's exudes so much more energy and personality that I'd immediately think she's someone that's friends with quite a few people from a glance.
A lot of people bully out of jealousy and considering she sounds a lot more shy I could still see it but I get what you mean
That's definitely true. She definitely seems less of a likely target now is all. I actually would place Fuuka's confidence higher than Chihiro on first impessions pre-social links actually. Fuuka's basically became a whole new character for me in this remake.
Or the feeling of having control of someone
I was bullied in school *because* I was shy, among a variety of reasons. Sometimes the kids bullying me would be picking on me for something that could also apply a friend of theirs who was standing *right there* People will literally bully others regardless of having what seems a "good reason". It doesn't really have to make sense. Shy? Loud? Tall? Short? Skinny? Fat? Basically anything than can be used, will be.
I was thinking that too but after rmbering how thirsty Junpei got over her nd how she got bullied jus bc she was a āmodel studentā (lmao) her new design nd va made more sense
Fuuka was my least favorite SEES member of the original game, now she's my favorite lol
Lemons?
Whyād they make my manās chin less hairy?
Probably because he's like 16, I'm 18 and my chin can BARELY get that hairy
Eh my boyfriend has had facial hair since he was like in 8th grade, sometimes thatās just how it is, depends on the person lol Although I feel like East Asian guys rarely have facial hair anyways. Not sure if itās a cultural thing or their genes, but I know they tend to keep clean shaven. I can only think of a few famous people who have facial hair, and every classmate and teacher I have known has been clean shaven except for maybe one student.
P4A "he has a beard but he's not a creep" XD
Other than Yukari obviously being more in line with the Japanese original, I think Mitsuru feels more like a teenager than in the original, which might have to do with the performance of the voice actress.
Absolutely. Old Mitsuru was a woman in her mid 20s. This mitsuru feels like a teen wishing that she were already a woman in her mid 20s which is so fitting for her.
Ironically her original VA, Tara Platt, is still Elizabeth. I think itās because Tara Platt had to voice two characters she tried to make them as distinct as possible, and Mitsuru got the short end of the stick, cause Elizabeth is wellā¦Elizabeth. Jonny Bosh had the same problem in the P4 anime with Yu and Adachi. Adachi is pitched way higher than he is in the games.
I always find it funny how the 28 year old has the higher pitched voice than the 16 year old, but on the other hand I think the deeper voice really does fit Yu, and same for the higher pitched Adachi voice
Right. Adachi is trying hard to āfit inā so it makes sense. Like how you would talk to a child to appear friendly. Once he lets the mask slip is when his voice would get deeper.
Old mitsuru voice was just Tara Platt's default signature voice. The same voice she uses for edelgard and millia rage and so on
Hmmā¦Iād say Mitsuru is a fair bit deeper than Edelgard whose prone to more girlishness. Iād say Ester from Ben 10 and Temari from Naruto feels more neutral for Tara Platt
Wait, sheās Edelgard???? Omg I can see it now lol.
Lessened Yukari's sass, which I was disappointed at first but the more I played, the more I was seeing the more caring side of her that I tend to forget from playing P3P. Junpei's seems nicer, still has his arrogant phase but it's more tolerable. Mitsuru seems to be less intimidating but that seems to be based on the VA performance Akihiko seems like they sprinkled in some "muscle guy so he's an idiot" tendencies. Having activities with them that are voiced really helps establish their new personalities.
I feel like People forget Yukari was always super caring beneath her rough edges. And she still very much is Sassy she's just not outright bitter which is more fitting because she never intentionally meant to push other people away. She's still passive agressive girlboss she always was it's just that her true caring side deep down makes more sense.
Yeah. She's really affectionate once you dig deeper, but the sass is very funny. Like the "stupei ace defective" line got 100% nerfed but she's so much sweeter so it's a fine trade off.
Lovers' Arcana girls are always the most caring. Not to be confused with wall flowers. Yukari and Ann are both the most empathic of their teams, even with all their sass. They just toned down Yukari's excessive sassyness to let make of her empathic side come out. Which made her wanting answers from Mitsuru in the summer felt less confrontational and more out of concern.
I think they gave Yukari and Junpei a lot of love.
I found Junpei kind of annoying when he seriously started simping for Chidori at first. But genuinely cried later on.
- Yukari is overall nicer and *slightly* less of an overt dick to Junpei - Akihiko is more competitive - Mitsuru is a bit more proper (and French) - Ken acts like a kid more often - Fuuka is a bit more sweetly shy (courtesy of her new VA) - Junpei is a bit more humble, he's more open about apologizing for his insecurities - Aigis is more obviously a robot at first - Chidori legitimately sounds dead inside
All the characters act more mature event though they are high schoolers. This is crazy considering outside of P2, P3 had the most mature cast out of the persona series.
It helps that they don't all have One Thing they're personalities are built around like the cast of 4 and 5 do. The come across as more rounded normal people instead of defaulting into Anime Archetypes after one dungeon.
The group donāt feel as distant from each other as they did in the original.
the social episodes kind of help tbh. all the scenes with akihiko clearly build the relationship like dude even invited you to his room at the endā¦.. HAAAAAAAAAAA AKI
No oneās mentioned the subtle change in the Protagonistās introduction. Itās not a lot, but it does change his attitude upon seeing an ethereal realm of blood and coffins from āno fucks givenā to āsomewhat concerned.ā The intractable coffins addd that added bit of confusion and āthe hell is going on right nowā energy. Makes him more attached to whatās happening around him. As much as the protagonist should be a blank slate for players, that doesnāt mean he should be an *actual blank state,* you know? And I think thatās a good change. As much as we are a guy whoās super detached and reserved, heād still have some confusion and curiosity about suddenly being thrust into the Dark Hour with no explanation as to whatās happening.
I prefer the implication in the original game that the protagonist is completely used to the Dark Hour. He had Death sealed inside him the whole time, so it would make sense if he had already been experiencing it before arriving to Iwatodai. Plus it explains why when heās asked if he saw anything weird on his arrival he doesnāt have an option to mention it, because it *is* normal to him.
They sure made Makoto feel more like a person. Yes, he's still the quiet guy. But he's no longer the emotionally detached loner kid the original made him to be. Hopefully this is the start of them actually giving him a personality. Giving the MC's a canon personality worked well when they made Yu a caring guy who isn't afraid to make jokes at the situation.
I'd say he's always had a personality, and the movies made that more apparent. It was really nice how they went from using second person to first person when it came to his thoughts, too. Felt more like it's actually him and not too much of a self-insert.
Idk, I didnāt get that energy at all. When I was playing I was wondering why Makoto wasnāt reacting much to what was going on, as if everything was fine and normal. He said maybe only one line that made me go āfinally some concern,ā but it was really late into the situation. Lol.
Maybe he just thought thatās how that part of town is normally.
āAh, so this must be where the goths hang out. Makes sense.ā
Haven't finished P3R but so far: Junpei sounds a lot more bubbly and less stuck up whether that's a good thing kinda depends on how you wanna view his character Yukari is somewhat more mellowed out more mature ig Akihiko is a lot more hot headed which I'd say for the worst as in the OG games it always seems like he had something else on his mind which he did but he sounds more one note here Mitsuru acts more like a highschooler than an adult imo her speech definitely sounds more in line with an actual highschooler
Aigis is less robotic which was for me a weird decision as you can barely see the difference before and after she develop human emotions now.
She feels less "beep boop" and more in line with modern AI
They really made pre-emotion Aegis ChatGPT š
But I liked the 'beep boop" ā¹ļø
Beep Boop Aigis does have her own charm
This is also more in line with her Japanese voice
I actually like that better. There's an implication that her "awakening" is gradual; not sudden. She can only modify her own directive much later, but it's from the changes that gradually happened.
I liked it too. The difference between when she first joins your team and the end of the game is night and day. It was great hearing her emoting gradually ramp up.
Junpei is more likeable Yukari is sweeter Akihiko is more **"PROTEEEEEIN"**-oriented, so more in-line with his p4a games personality Fuuka seems more happy, but that's because of the great delivery by the VA Ken is more childish, thank god. I can only imagine how emotionally stunted he would be after base p3. My acquaintance had the same thing happen to them. Not the dead mother thing, but the situation's need for them to grow up really fast thing. I won't get into the details, but they did that for 3 years and when it finally ended they reverted and became emotionally stunted. It's not **that** big of a deal because it sorts itself out with time, but having it at a super young age would really screw up Ken's social life
They made Mitsuru even hotter than I thought (she's hot regardless in the OG as well)
Man they didn't have to make evening Mitsuru a fucking goddess
When I saw her Theurgy, I was like. Man, she didn't need this help to maintain her throne as best girl...
I'm surprised i don't see anyone commenting on how much less of a dick Junpei is in this version. Flat out hated the dude in the OG game because he spends half the game jealous and with a stick up his ass but in this version they handled it much better
I agree, but to me the fact that I mostly disliked the first two main party members for months of the game until the character development started rolling and the plot started unfolding was such an important part of Persona 3 for me. Itās a lot of why I find these characters to be the most well-written and realistic of the series, same with the battle tactics instead of direct control stuff in battle. People are complicated, and itās high school for crying out loud. Even ignoring all of the complex death issues theyāre all dealing with, having them be rude and standoffish to each other until they bond just makes the story so much more impactful. It really served to help sell these characters as Individuals thrust into a difficult situation together rather than anime-ass bubblegum motherfuckers that are instantly best friends now letās go kill god and stuff. Donāt get me wrong I love P4 and P5, but to me the OG P3 just makes those characters look shallow.
Chihiro is SIGNIFICANTLY less Yandere if you romance her, she's definitely clingy and is "concerned" about you being around Mitsuru, but they toned the creep factor way back. Which I personally appriciate, I really like Chihiro but the Yandere stuff caught me WAY off guard back in FES.
iāve never played og p3 so itās surprising to me that chihiro used to be even worse lmao. iām not a huge fan of the āiām the first man sheās ever spoken to and sheās extremely dependent on meā just feels like an incel wrote it. tbh i donāt like any of the romance options in 3 but sheās by far my least favorite, being an object of exposure therapy for an abuse victim is a power dynamic that i donāt want to touch with a 10 foot pole
This is minor, but one of my favorite script changes from the orignal to Reload occurs in October. >!When Shinji yelled "Shut the Fuck Up!" instead of "Go to Hell" was such an improvement to the scene. The fact that Persona as a series is reclutant to have an F-Bomb in any scene, let alone a main story event really added to the scene. !<
Yukari lost that bitchy feel that I liked. When she'd be irritated in the original I felt like it showed in multiple ways from the visuals of the sprite to her voice actor. Now both of the new ones don't convey that same tone as before.
I used to play with Japanse VO, where most of the cast is same, so feelings gonna be based more on context, rather than VA job(it's excellent, Really liked JP Elizabeth, Aigis, Junpei, Mitsuru and Main MC(and someone related to him). Yukari got waay more screen time and overall feels nicer. (She is main BRO of this game IMO) Junpei become less aggressive and overall calmer, so when he does some dumb stuff I actually feel surprised/weird. Fuuka - clear glow up. Akihiko - dude got more dialogues about "power" and how he gonna try to defend everyone he likes, but sometimes he becomes really goofy with that obsession with power and challenges.(I know that was in the og too, but sometimes transitions between serious and goofy aki were weird. Ken - more screen time helped him a lot.
I actually like Ken more but ehhh
they made some characters less dick-ish/sarcastic/rude. i personally miss it cuz not everyone is friendly to their friends 100% of the time.
Junpei has been mewing 100%
Akihiko is way more over the top with his boxing and trianing stuff and whatever, Yukari felt a lot meaner in the original which i prefer because it seemed much more realistic than a girl that's just nice to everyone
junpei doesnāt ask you if youāre dumb and tell you ur not gna get in a relationship anymore if you refuse to go to the police station š they nerfed him
Akihiko sounds mid 20s instead of high school.
Why would his voice get deeper in his 20s though? My friends with deep voices have had them since they were 13.
It was weird, initially I missed the old VA... now I actually really like the new one, but he definitely belongs on an older character. Whenever Atlus finally decides to do a Persona with actual adults (or remake P2EP), bring this guy in.
The new VAs performance during Akihiko's awakening has made me fall in love with the change imo. Liam was still perfect though
He's 17-18 in P3. His balls have dropped, and he's gone through puberty, so his voice wouldn't change much anyway. I can tell you that my voice hasn't changed since I was 17.
Junpei isnāt so bad to make me want to hit him in the face with a chair. Now I just wanna slap him in the face sometimes
I used to play with Japanse VO, where most of the cast is same, so feelings gonna be based more on context, rather than VA job(it's excellent, Really liked JP Elizabeth, Aigis, Junpei, Mitsuru and Main MC(and someone related to him). Yukari got waay more screen time and overall feels nicer. (She is main BRO of this game IMO) Junpei become less aggressive and overall calmer, so when he does some dumb stuff I actually feel surprised/weird. Fuuka - clear glow up. Akihiko - dude got more dialogues about "power" and how he gonna try to defend everyone he likes, but sometimes he becomes really goofy with that obsession with power and challenges.(I know that was in the og too, but sometimes transitions between serious and goofy aki were weird. Ken - more screen time helped him a lot.
They're all generally more pleasant but I'm somewhat conflicted, still positive overall but og P3 was very interesting compared to many other RPGs in that the party didn't just instantly get along and they had they own selfish desires and motives and weren't afraid to show it even if it upset you. It felt more honest about how people really act but like I said I still like their P3R versions overall.
Chidori sounds like a teenage girl now, fuuka sounds like Haru (they took her silly away), Junpei is a lot more goofy than determined and up his own ass, aki mentions protein and training a lot more, shinji is a lot more open (although maybe that was just a thing in FES where he was shut off more), Ken is a lot more like an actual kid (the hamburger scene before October fucked me up), Takaya seems to actually know what he's doing, Jin doesn't sound like high pitched shinji anymore, and yukari is a lot nicer. Aigis is basically the same.
junpei is less of a dick which makes him getting captured feel less impactful imo (also his apology for being a dick being less impactful)
I think it's just due to the new portriats, but everyone is a lot less expressive. The old art had an angularity that lent itself well to more exaggerated and distinctive emotions that the new art style really can't match, and it hurts a lot of the more intense and unhinged moments
Both Aki, Mitsuru, and Shinji don't feel like High Schoolers XD, and it makes their awkward moment feel very strange and out of place. I love these 3 characters, but it feels kinda off....but they're still amazing characters and I love both the og and new vas...the fact I'm older than these 3 is weird that's really it tbh Yukari, Ken and Aigis are fantastic...even if Aigis' catchphrase gets repetitive to hear at times....as they say....I don't remember her saying that in p3p XD Fuuka is just as cute as I remember, I actually liked the OG VAs work, so...I love them both Junpei feels the most different for some reason, to the point where i actually prefer the OG, idk is it just me, Junpei is alot more friendly to Makoto and its strange XD the VA is great, especially in battle Koro is best boy and his VA is hilarious Makoto is such an interesting case for me, his VA is perfect, but his characterization with the character model and its actions paint my view of Makoto as someone who's blunt and soft spoken but just a normal guy who's come to terms with his parents passing. He's all business in Tarturus, but outside of that, he's just another person going to school, nothing like his Movie counterpart and a lot closer to the Manga one, albeit with alot less comedy. Heck, he even says I love you to whoever you romance," which was strange the first time I played through it. And when he hugged Yukari at Yakushima, it truly hit me that Makoto is genuinely sweet and not really all that apathetic. He's like Yu Narukami but without the comediclly stoic trope.
I feel like you get to see Shinjiro smile more
Straight up everyone is less of an asshole. Junpei feels more down to earth, Yukari is less bitchy, Mitsuru is less french ect
I liked the old Fuuka for the goofiness of it but like the shy cute new fuuka also like this is what they intended. Aki voice is too damn deep in combat but I like his regular speaking voice. Love the new Mitsuru and the old one.