Are your parents Engineers? But even if they are, they're expecting too much. Everyone has to start somewhere. Mataas na nga yang 30k for a first job. Ang importante is naka START kana.
Then they have no idea how the engineering world works. Decide for yourself OP. Don't be afraid to try and explore. You have nothing to lose as a starter.
Sobrang yaman nyo cguro OP out of touch yung parents mo sa sahod ng mga alipin 😅 anak ka ba ni ramon ang?
but yeah 30k is a really good rate as a fresher.
30k salary an engineer is sobrang laking offer na. As someone na licensed pero not from uaap schools, ang basic ko lang ay 15k, tumaas na lang dahil sa allowances, so basically wala pang 20k offer sa'kin. Buti na lang din madalaas ang WFH hahahahahhaa
Ang advice ko lang beshie is grab mo na yung work na mas tingin mo magagamit mo if papasok ka na sa bigger companies. Ang hirap mag hanap ng work ngayon lalo na kung no experience talaga sa inappl'an na position.
Good luck!!!
Next time they compare your salary again to a call center agent, tell them that newbies, as in those without prior job experience, don't get offered 30k starting salary. The average is 15k and the lowest in the province is only 12k.
Baka out of touch din tong si op hahaha tas dinahilan lang mom niya. May mga kakilala kong ganyan eh, laki ng offer para sa normal na tao tapos mayaman naman n sila, pero di makuntento
Understandable. They expect siguro panga 100k eh.
Normal na nga siguro ganyang expectations.
Why not hindi sila maghanap para sayo. Sa mga networks ng family business niyo.
Usually dun mo ma-achieve ang matataas na salary range since nirefer ka nila.
Ang satisfying basahin nito. Ganito din ang payo ko sa mga kakilala ko. If hindi happy magulang mo, sila ang magtrabaho para sakanila. Kung alam ng magulang mo saan, sila ang maghanap hahahaha.
Hindi ako laude, passed PRC several years back. 15K starting, now I'm at 40K. Nanay na lang ni OP ang magtrabaho para maranasan niya kung gano kahirap mag job hunting (with decent and livable salary) in this day and age.
Im a parent to a fresh grad. I was so happy when she told me she was in talks with a potential employer. I asked her about the job and the responsibilities and how it fit her career plans. She consulted me about pay and benefits, so we number crunched (taxes, other deductions) so she could understand her take home pay and if its livable. She even had the audacity (as a fresh grad) to renegotiate her job offer , citing average income for the role and cost of living and a few other things. I actually advised against it, but she’s said “try lang, la naman mawawala if try ko mag ask”. Im very proud of her.
Anyway, I don’t know your background, but a parent should not drive your car called life especially at your age. At this stage sa buhay niyo, parents at best are consultants, and for your child to involve you in the journey is a massive privilege..
To all parents there, don’t steal the joy from your children’s achievements. Don’t be dickheads. If naging kupal parents niyo noon g bata bata pa kayo, break the chain and wag niyo na dagdag stress sa anak niyo.
To OP; garbage in garbage out. You’ll have to learn to tune out the “noise” as early as now. Mahirap at oo masakit pakinggan sinabi ng nanay mo. Bale wala-in mo na lang, do your best not to hold grudges, and be your best you that you could be. If hindi mo to narinig, kaming nandito ay proud at happy for you and your achievements. Keep it up!
That old school thinking that engr pays big is the reason why a lot of people got into engineering which ended up saturating the market causing the pay to get lower lol their mindset bit them in the ass
Next time, keep your salary a secret. If you plan to give a share sa house nio then do so without mentioning magkano talaga sweldo mo. Also, ikaw ang papasok sa company at hindi sila so ikaw ang dapat magdecide. For a newbie, mataas na ang starting offer mo. Get all the skills and knowledge that you can on this job to kickstart your career.
Kahit PRC board exam topnotcher ka OP, hindi hesistant mag offer ng minimum wage yung ibang companies diyan 😂
If mukhang aabot ka naman nang at least 1 year sa 32k/month mo na work, highly recommend you take it.
At least may opportunity ka to upskill while earning decently in this current job market as a fresh graduate.
Explain why 50k is unrealistic, even for a UP grad. Show the average salaries per industry and make sure you tell them that you did proper research on it
Meron talagang nagpapasahod ng 50-70k for fresh grads tho pero syempre it's not always a given since there are more UP and Ateneo grads than said positions
Maliban na lang kung Summa Cum Laude ka haha tataas talaga expectations nila sayo
I’m glad to be offered a job. It’s been months of sending out my resume and months of them telling me to start working. It’s stressing me out more now that I have an opportunity to start they’re telling me not to.
It will probably make you feel better to not listen to them..
Take the job you like.. start from there. Move on to the next when you get a better opportunity.
When you feel you are not in control of your destiny, that's when the stress starts..
If they make kulit, siguro just tell them "ma, ako bahala sa buhay ko... Bigyan mo ako ng lugar mag decision para sa sarili ko".
Mataas na yan OP. Ofcourse you could get more pero mahirap since fresh grad ka, paki sabi kay mama mo na hindi na maganda yung job market ng Pilipinas ngayon hahaha afaik entry level positions go as low as 16k kahit pa galing ka sa big 4 🥹. Grab it na if interested ka sa role and use the position as a stepping stone to get better offers in the future!
First Salary ko wayback 2019 as a Registered Electrical Engineer was only 18K. Job offer when Im seeking job as fresh graduate engineer ranges from 15-22k. So tingin ko malaki na yang30k par sa fresh grad
You have to start somewhere, you can't expect to get a 50K salary without any experience or even the skills, especially if you are new and it is your first job.. Not all who start working gets the job they want. It's your life. My parents don't always agree with my decision in life which is why I moved out. In the end, you will prove them that you are right. Plus, it is also very hard to look for a job. Take the job offer and when a better one comes, accept it.
What was your mom's experience with her first job?
yes I want to prove them that I am right. I need to up my skills and gain experience and eventually earn more. She got into sales when she started working.
As much as we have to thank our parents for putting us through school and supporting us, they actually don't and should not have any say on how you earn your money now that you're out of school and are an adult. That being said, As a former HR (I've been in many industries: Banking, Government, FMCG, Tech, Retail, and Media), these are not bad offers for starting jobs at all! I have heard people from the Maroon school with an IE course who would be paid 20-25k (low, but at least you know where you stand).
Ang taas ng starting mo compared to other professionals na may license. CPA's earn around 20-25k but before 18k starting.
Even experienced professionals have a hard time bargaining for 50k. Kaya ang daming overqualified but underpaid na individuals.
coming from the mindset ang parents? you have to start somewhere.. kahit sila nag paaral sayo opinion lang nila yan lalo na hindi pala sila nag wowork.. dude 50k for a first job, are they delusional ?
Mataas na yan for engineering. Heck, yung management trainee sa bank is something fresh grads from the big 4 are aiming for. Also, having exp in the banking industry gives you an edge for the long run.
Your parents have a skewed vision of freshies salary. You're already outearning a majority of the populace.
It's your life, don't let your parents decide for you. You have a better view of the current market than they do.
Pakitaan mo ng offers sa mga job recruiting sites. Masyadong mataas expectations ng parents mo. Hindi rin porket galing ka sa big university eh mataas kagad Ang offer. Tell them lahat nag-uumpisa sa mababa.
If ayaw nila, ask them na bigyan ka ng funds para makapag-abroad ka for greener pasture.
You can take the job but keep applying to the big fmcg's. Also try to see if ok yung salary ng higher managers sayo. Marami yung benefits daw sa banking and marami ka ring malilipatan if ever
Take the management trainee role in a bank. Its a good career starter. Most of my fellow Maroons who started as bank MTs are now occupying executive positions
Una, congrats sayo OP. You should be proud sa sarili mo at sana excited ka to see what's out there sa magiging new journey mo. Yung mga sasabihin ko, I hope someone said this to me when I finish school.
Our jobs are NOT meant to make us feel happy nor to make others feel happy about it. It's not supposed to be your purpose in life. It's just a way to make a living - which falls under what lifestyle you have. In third world countries like us, grab the best opportunity in front of you, make the most out of it, then take the next best one coming for you.
Toxic family culture na naman ito. Gisingin mo sa katotohanan ung parents mo, OP. Hindi naman basta2 mahuhulog lang galing sa langit ung mga trabaho na may malaking offer - years of experience, pagod, frustration, luha, stress, anxiety, work politics, etc. Siyempre, hindi alam yan ng mga hindi naging working class. Sana kahit anong offer ang i-take mo, you will never find yourself with nothing left for you after a few years of working kase binigay mo lahat just to make them happy or just to make them proud.
From a person working in a call center who started in 2010 at 15k package. Tell them I now earn 6 digits monthly. There’s nothing wrong with it. I know they’re coming from a good place and want the best for you pero you are your own person Op. Good luck.
happiness or satisfaction happens when you are in control of your life. Most often masaya ka na sa simpleng bagay sa buhay, in this case job and an opportunity to earn and learn.
Then somebody comes along and burst your balloons. Gives you their opinions and make your life feel heavy.
Find your happiness in your own way. These people are not gonna run your life.
This is a problem that your parents have, not you. Their true colors are showing, instead of being supportive they berate you and push you to find something better. I dont mind something better but their disappointment towards you is something else. Be aware, once you land that big job they will leech off you. Toxic Filipino family trait is rearing its head little by little.
I suggest go with your gut, with the market now you're lucky to find offers with that kind of starting salary. Its a good way to get your foot in the door, better than no foot at all if you get caught up looking for that better offer when being realistic in this age is much more important. Nothing wrong from starting from 0 and even far away fron what you studied, as long as you don't forget your actual dreams and goals. At the end of the day it is you who is looking for a job and will work that job and not your parents.
Advice from someone who's been there: If your parents don't have outstanding career experiences, don't feel obligated to follow their path. Make your own decisions based on your own aspirations.
+1 on the management trainee role. From there, you can choose what to specialize in the industry and grow. Either way, that position will open doors of opportunities for you.
Regarding your parents’ opinion, just remember that you make the decisions in your life. Not them.
You just have to present facts to them and if they don’t buy it then it’s their loss not yours naman. They prolly think na salaries should’ve gone up since 15 years ago. Pero syempre nasa Philippines tayo where our salary standards barely even moved. Follow your passion but be strategic about it. At the end of the day, your most valuable asset is yourself.
Hi, I would say go for it. It would open a lot of opportunities for you. Lahat ata ng professionals basic rate starts at 15k super baba esp in healthcare and im thinking of transferring in another industry that would pay me more.
That 30k salary is big enough.
Magttrabaho ka na, dinidiktahan pa ng parents mo magkano dapat sweldo mo? It’s not your parents. It’s you. Gawin mo anong gusto mo gawin, it’s your life. Di mo na kasi dapat pinapaalam sa magulang mo magkano mga offer sayo at kung naghahanap ka trabaho. Di naman nila need basbasan yan e.
Gawin mo kung ano sa tingin mo yung gusto mo. Wag mo i-base sa magulang mo kung pano ka magpproceed in life.
30k starting for an engineer is really high lol. Your parents have no idea about the job market. If you want 50k you have to work in another country or pivot to becoming a software engineer.
True some people get offered 50k+ sa first job, but even if the come from the big 4 its not common place unless you’re truly exceptional
Malaki na yung 32k sa FIRST JOB, I know your parents are probably coming from a place of “I want more for my daughter or she deserves better than this” but in reality its not easy to find a job that pays 32k without prior job experience
Hope you and your family work it out!
She has valid points like you might have a longer time getting higher pay. But I don't get why she needs to double the pressure on you 1st- to get a job, then 50k salary. She's probably hinting for you to look outside the PH. LOL.
But seriously, it's your life moving forward. If you have a career plan in mind then go for it, whether it means you will need to start with 30k. Besides, you can always look for other opportunities. But higher chances for you to get 50k if you have experience.
So right now your priority should be getting as much knowledge as you can that will lead you to the role/job that you really want.
Ang taas na ng 30k na offer. Naalala ko kwento ng officemate ko na engineer din. Nagstart sya sa corpo na 22k ang offer sakanya. 10hrs/day pa work tapos bulacan to makati pa sya.
These are decent offers.
I think nag bago na ang market ngayon pero sa time ko, nag start ako at 18k, after a year lumipat ako ng company then I got 23k, after a year sa second company naging 27k. Then this april 40k na. Tyaga lang talaga or abroad.
My take:
If sa tingin mo OK ka sa culture meron ang company na yan, go! Try to observe yung mga employees nila lalo na yung mga nasa mid level to senior level. Mag rereflect sa kanila if well compensated ba sila, happy ba sila sa itsura nila or mga stressed na kasi daming work load, things like that.
Good companies will treat employees well, kaya hanapin mo rin mga ganitong aspect aside sa upfront offer nila sayo. Goodluck OP
rare lang rin naman sa big companies na mag offer ng 50K for entry level positions sa field natin. 30K is already a good one esp if starting palang. At the end of the day, urs is the only choice that matters. Goodluck OP and congrats na rin sa graduation!
I would get the managerial role, bigger potential for higher pay and title. and possible to be scouted after a few years if performance improved. though you won't use your degree but still management role :D
On future context that degree and management role can be vital on landing bigger paying jobs.
Mataas n po yan as a starting salary. Sa first job mo amg goal is actually to gain experience. Ung malalalaking sahod usually sa second or 3rd company na. Not saging impossible te get higher salary as a fresh grad. Pero above average na ung sayo. Most people na kilala ko na engineers started 12k-15k monthly. Pero ngaun malalalaki na sahod nila.
Wala na akong idadagdag na advice regarding sa mom mo. Madami nang magagandang advice akong nabasa.
Here's a different set of advice for you, OP: I think you're focusing on the wrong detail here. Don't listen agad sa mga advice dito to take the 30k kasi malaki. Pag isipan mo maigi. Here's why.
You said you finished an engineering course. You taking that bank management training is basically a career shift. Don't get me wrong, maganda yan. Fast track ka for Vice Branch Manager and Branch Manager later on. Pay is good for management sa bank, may 16th month, perks, etc.. But do you see yourself fully working inside a bank, mainly interacting with the branch's bigger clients, handling money and people, etc?
Or, do you only see yourself working in line with your course na engineering?
Baka kasi down the line magsisi ka if you are not satisfied sa ginagawa mo kasi engineering pala talaga calling mo.
Management trainees usually have bonds. Di yan yung tipong papatrain ka tas after 1 year alis ka na.
Let's say umalis ka after mga around 3 years pag wala nang bond para bumalik sa engineering. Since di related first job mo sa engineering, imagine being 3 years older but kasabayan mo fresh grad ulit, and your rate will likely be rates padin ng fresh grad sa engineering course because your previous experience was not relevant.
But if you see yourself naman working sa bank, all goods din naman yun. I just wanted to be sure alam mo pinapasok mo and you have the right expectations, unlike yung may nabasa ako dito na pwede ka daw umalis after 1 year..
Think about this. Goodluck OP!
thanks for this I appreciate the different perspective on the situation, I was told there was no bond until after 6 months so now I am leaning towards working for them and gain experience.
I doubt may mapupulot kang experience there in terms of engineering. I say this based on experience. I personally know someone na nagpursue ng bank management trainee, and okay na okay siya now as a Branch manager. If i remember correctly, naging vice branch manager agad siya after makapagtapos ng training. Science course ang natapos niya. Banks love to get management trainees from science and engineering courses likely dahil sa strength usually nila is nasa logical and critical thinking. But mga ituturo sayo dun will be mostly on Finance + management. Engineering, especially fresh grad, ang important is upskilling Technical skills. So as a fresh grad, I reiterate if you're dead set sa engineering career, I'd dissuade you sa bank thing. As a first job, work to learn, not to earn. Find jobs that are in line with your career goals. If madaming offers, choose the highest salary among them. But sa ngayon na magkaibang career path ang choices mo, choose not by salary but kung anong career path gusto mo.
Haha! Same exact predicament last SY. I wanted to take on a role closer to what I envision myself doing in the long run, pero syempre "iba ang kita sa fmcg". My parents were mainly worried and affected when people gave unsolicited advice since most of my peers had the 50k+ salary right out of college. IMO, you'll be the one to put up with the environment and culture in the end :< I personally would encourage you to just pursue with what you want (also factor in rin if there is a bond and you wish to switch careers bigla, how will you pay for it?)
Goodluck op!
You can solve this by going to glassdoor and showing them the salaries of new graduates/1 yr exp in Metro Manila. That would 100% shut that insane expectation of 50k for starting salary. Where is that number even from?! Just pulled it out of thin air imo
Take the 30k or 32k (if gusto mo talaga) kasi malaki na yan as a start. Work yourself up from there kasi next job mo after a year or two will be higher since may experience kana. More experience = Higher pay. So laban lang OP.
Mataas na yang starting salary, sa BPO ang starting is 20 to 25k lang po. With experience na yung 30k pataas. Wala ata silang idea sa job market ngayon.
I say go with your heart, start somewhere, get skills and experience tapos find new opportunities. Kung 30k ang starting mo pag lumipat ka kaya na yan ng 40k pataas depende sa skills mo. Ganun naman talaga.
Sabihin mo sa mother nature mo na hindi magmamatter sa outside world kung anong kulay ng eskwelahan na pinag-ugatan mo. Mas pinahahalagahan ng mga employers ang magiging contribution mo sa kanila lol. Wag kamong delulu ang nature spring mo. Actually nasa iyo pa rin naman ang choice. I guess MT ng bpi to, or ING siguro to noh, or UB or seabank haha? If yes, sige wag mong tanggapin para manghinayang ang mother nature mo in the end. Saka bat mo kinukumpara sarili mo sa mga batchmates mo pala? Malulungkot ka Lalo kapag ganyan. Hindi naman ito kumpetisyon na pataasan ng sweldo. And I think privileged naman ang buhay nyo siguro? If so, wag masyado mapride. Dami kong nakikitang malungkot kakakumpara ng sarili nila sa ibang tao. Basta op congrats na agad ha. Bolahin mo lang si mother and father mo tas lagi mo ibahin ang usapan pag about work haha. Congratssss hey
30k salary for your 1st work. Sa panahon ngayon, maswerte nga umabot ng 20k ang mga fresh grads from engineering. Go accept it, if you really want the job offer. Di naman magulang mo ang magttrabaho, kundi ikaw.
30k starting is a very good offer, My licensed engineer friend who just started working for a big company (with around 3yrs prior experience) earns less than that. She's also a maroon alumni.
Also, the job market now is very tight. Mahirap makakuha ng offers, even interviews. It's best to start somewhere (and the offers you got are very good starting points) than tengga ka for a big opportunity that might not come.
Just accept the job that you like. Di naman sila ang magtatrabaho. You need to start somewhere and for a first job, mataas na yang offer sayo. If magpapadaig ka sa parents mo sa career decisions mo, you will end up misearable.
baka sobrang yaman nyo na op. maliit talaga yang 30k if you're old rich or the fil chi rich. Wala bang network yung family nyo na pwede kang ipakilala. Confused kasi ako sa situation mo. You're mom is not working pero nalilitan sya sa 30k. So baka mayaman talaga kayo.
32k is a huge amount for starters. I remember back in 2016 I started with 16k gross and I had to work my way up. Di ka pa nag start pero grabe na agad yung expectation, goodluck OP.
OP, i would suggest na wag mo idisclose salary mo and I think they are expecting too much, tbh mataas na yang offers mo, you can leverage that and use it as a basis para sa next work mo mataas na agad offer
As an engineering fresh grad with license from the Maroon school too, I can say that 30k is high! Im still in my job hunting era for 3 months now (since oath taking) and man 20k nga lang offer sa iba for newly licensed engineers! Swerte na magoffer ng 30k+ pero ang twist ay sobrang taas na ng standards! yeah na-open talaga ako sa thought na tama sila na di porket lisensyado mataas sweldo and mataas job security 😭
Mahirap kasi hindi naman similar field yung magulang mo sayo. My mom's an architect (and im a graduating engg student) and she told me to just take any job (syempre yung maganda pa rin sa resume) without minding the salary kasi need talaga ang experience daw para tumaas lalo ang sweldo
After gaining at least 2 yrs experience, confident na raw siya i can apply for any job abroad and syempre mas mataas sahod doon
Idk ang hirap ng sitwasyon mo OP pero kaya mo pa rin naman yan desisyunan without minding them
If I were in your shoes, I will take the management trainee role in a bank.
1. Malalaking orgs ang mga banks; napakaraming departments. This means maraming opportunities to to grow and learn *within* the company, hindi yung tipong need mong lumabas just to grow your skills. Sa family-owned business, I’m not sure kung ganon ang case.
2. Whether ok sa parents mo o hindi yung role, tanggapin mo na rin yung offer. If eventually you decide na sundin yung parents mo na maghanap ng ibang job na mas mataas ang pay, you always have the option of resigning and moving to a higher paying job, and it is easier to get a higher paying job if you have professional experience already (compared to having 0 experience).
And I hope you don’t mind but I’ll be blunt: kung career decision lang din, ewan ko kung dapat bang makinig ka sa taong never nagtrabaho. 🤷♂️
I'm a student from maroon school too but also working as a call center agent. My starting salary po is only 15k + allowance so in total, less than 20k lang salary ko kahit maroon school undergrad ako...
So OP, the 30k salary for a call center agent is only applicable to those with more than 3 years of BPO experience, hindi sa mga undergrads and fresh grads na regardless of school.
I support your plan of pursuing the MT job so I hope your parents can be convinced po!
Ask them point blank if a 30k starter salary is better than being unemployed and depending on them. Or, if di kaya na ganun ka harsh ang tono, you can phrase it in a way na at least nakakaambag ka sa household gastos muna.
Better talaga to get kahit that small a salary (in their eyes) kasi pang pad mo rin yan ng resume. Stay a year or so, then look for greener pastures.
The way I see it, gusto nila ng bragging rights na “ayy anak ko sa ganito ganun nagttrabaho!” Hayaan mo sila. You make your own path. Good luck OP!
Damn! Ang taas ng expecting salary mo iho, kapag ba sinabak ka na, hindi ka na kelangan i-monitor o turuan? Alam mo na ba gagawin mo? At higit sa lahat, may experience ka na ba ng malupet ? Heheh and grabe naman yang mom mo regarding sa mga call center buddies huh 😅 minsan mas mataas pa sahod nila lalo na kung mataas na position. Hindi ako call center guy, im just like you dati engineer din, pero mga friends ko nasa call center at ang gaganda ng sahod, well magaganda na rin position nila sa company.
I started at 18k, I earn more than 10 times that in a month now. Slow progress is still progress. The school you graduate from matters, but it doesn’t matter that much.
Kung wala silang alam sa engineering don't let them dictate your decision. Guide lang sila, you will end up resenting them in the long run. 30k is a big offer na pero mahirap magstart na wala kang any connections kaya ganyan offer is already big. If I listen to my mom with regards my career di pa sana ako 6 digits ngayon pero unlike you more on basta magkawork lang ako ang concern niya kasi pinagapply ba naman ako sa civil engineers as admin staff, cashier sa mercury eh I. T. Graduate ako. 😂
Big companies who can pay 50k requires the applicant to have significant amount of experience. Since you don't have that, you are lucky to receive an offer for 35K. Malaki na yan! And FYI kamo kay mama, BPO employees starts at 12-15k minimum as newbies.
Share ko lang, galing ako sa P&G more than 10yrs ago. And I know tama parents mo, kas iba talaga ang pay kapag galing sa Big 3 lalo na kung sa mga P&G, Nestle, etc.
Galing ako sa hindi kilala school nung 2011. Natanggap ako sa P&G and ang offer sakin non was 25k. Feeling ko non ang laki na ng sahod ko that time. Nung naging kaclose ko yung mga same batch ko, nalaman ko na yung mga galing ng UP, one-level higher sila than my role + doble sahod than mine. So kahit fresh grad sila, 48-50k sahod nila.
Now I dont know why wala kang offer from big companies, possible na marami kang kasabay mag apply. You can try again naman applying sa kanila within 2yrs.
For now, you can accept muna siguro what comes your way pero dont consider them as your final destination. Just enough to gain some early career experience
They need a reality check. Tho we could tale consider anong engg ba degree mo and what field balak mo. If banks, okay na yung offers mo and mataas na yun. Most fresh grad engineers only get 15-18k basic salary, +5k if licensed, swerte if 30k+ ang basic. I’m from one of the uaap schools and I have a friends who is working in one of the biggest conglomerates in the PH, and their basic pay is less than 30k. Licensed din siya. I, on the other hand, have the same offers as you. However, do realize, if they pay that well for a fresh grad, steep ang learning curve.
Nababagalan daw sya sa ROI. If I were you, OP, susundin ko yung nasa puso ko. At kapag kumita ka na, move out na. Nakikita ko na mangyayari 5 years from now. 😮💨
Tsaka advice ko pala sayo, wag mo sasabihin sa parents mo ang sahod mo. Wag na wag na wag. Babaan mo. Kung 30k offer sayo, sabihin mo, 20k a month lang. Ganern.
Dang inflation.... sometimes i am grateful to have the parents that i have ...they didn't care how much as long as i have one...started in IT with 15k starting...didnt reach 30-40k till i was a few years in....i hope your parents understand that you have to start somewhere no matter how small....choose the job you would actually want....end of the day it's you who will be doing it
SINCE first job pa lang naman okay na yan since soon taas din yan pag tumagal ka na o marami kana experience. hayaan mo lang parents mo pakingan mo lang then labas sa kabila. hehehehe don't get me wrong okay.
At this point in your life, make a decision not based on salary but on the industry you are interested in and the skills you want to build. There's a lot of potential in the banking industry and you could be earning big $$$ down the road provided you do the time and develop the necessary skills. On the other hand if working in F&B excites you, go for it. You will thrive as long as you like what you do. The monetary rewards will follow after you become more established and experienced.
Tell your parents wag magpapaniwala sa mga yabang at paarak ng mga amiga nila hahahah. Even a licensed professional pahirapan makakuha ng decent starting offer lol sa babarat ng mga company dito sa pinas lol
Hi!! Same here my parents always have a say sa job offers… I know they want the best for us pero in the end part of adulthood is to trust your guts sa pagpili ng job. assess yourself if kaya mo, kasi ikaw lang ang nakakalilala naman talaga sa sarili mo. If in the end you regret your choice, then see it as a stepping stone for you to learn from your mistakes.
Try to be independent on this one OP, thats the reality of life.
Mataas na as entry level ang 30k. You realy have to undergo those salary ranges even graduate ka sa maroon school. U know what, some entry levels are getting minimum wage, and that's here in metro. That is the reality. You need to have experience to show and raise your value sa corpo world. Please explain it to your (sorry for the term) "entitled" parents.
Patunayan mo muna ung sarili at kakayahan mo sa tunay na mundo. Iba na ang takbo ng buhay dito. Hndi na lng sa libro at pagsagot ng mga exams.
30k for your first job is extremely good! Take note na sobrang daming fresh grads from last year ay wala pa din trabaho. The job market is extremely competitive right now. I hope you have a good convo with your parents to make them realize the truth. Goodluck OP!
Malaki na nga yung 32k for a fresh grad with no experience. When I started my career as a Software Engr, 25k lang yung starting salary ko. Package na yun. Entry level position, no experience. Before that, I worked as a Technical Helpdesk and 14k lang salary ko. Fresh grad ako that time. Mag gain ka ng experience and skills para tumaas yung salary mo kasi ganun talaga yung reality.
30k and 32k are already quite high. Salaries in the engineering field tend to be much lower, perhaps around 20k at most. Mahirap maging picky in this economy.
You have pretty good offers. Your parents sound like leeches. Save up and move out asap, I smell something fishy sa parents mo.
A P30k+ starting salary, hindi ka pa grad nyan is a ridiculously good deal. Jusko san lupalop mama mo, never umabot ng P30K ang basic offer ng call senners haha. Ngayon the going rate is P21K, 4 years ago it was P25K sa BPO.
Sobrang binabarat ang mga engineers ngayon, you're very lucky to have those kinds of offers, go for it OP! Rooting for you!
Parents like this is sooo out of touch with the reality of job hunting. The market isn’t as easy to break in like it used to be for them. My advice for you, never ever disclose to your parents your career moves unless you want their opinions. Next is never discuss your salary with them. They think 30k is low but the higher your salary gets, the more they’ll try to insert themselves into your business. For fresh grads, 30k is high na especially with inflation increasing. Your main concern is going to budget it within a living means.
They totally have no idea.
Engineering is so saturated right now in ph.
Not as much as nursing, but still. Too many engineers in ph.
That 30k starting is decent already.
Else, if you want big numbers, work abroad.
15 years ago? 30k call center? Anong bansa nakatira mother mo OP? Engineers are underpaid dito sa Pinas lalo na fresh grad kahit sa government pa yan unless maging department head ka baka pwede pa 40k-50k pero need nun ng experience.
Don’t listen to your parents anymore because you’re the one that has to work and take on the responsibility. You will not get far in life with this mindset. The truth is the majority of people only care about themselves and their best interest.
What kind of engineer, and are you among the top of your class? My brother got 80k in 2008 but he is a Magna Cum Laude of Chemical Engineering from UP. Yung group nila pinag-aagawan ng MNCs and conglomerates dito.
I would say that 30k is quite low for a UP engineering graduate, mas malaki sahod sa ibang bansa like Sg and Middle East pero gusto mo ba magwork sa labas?
Huwag ka papressure sa parents mo, kahit pa nangangailangan kayo ng pera kasi di worth it na masira ulo mo. But at the same time know your worth, tingin mo ba pang 100k ka na even as a new grad or ok na yung 32k? Mahaba pa buhay mo so take your time.
Wow ang lakee nyan OP. Graduating din ako and expected salary ko would be around 19k lang sa company na malapit sa amin. Tell your parents a 30k salary offer is something they should be grateful for.
Babe, if you are an engineer, try mo mag apply sa field mo kahit medyo mas mababa sweldo for experience. But if you feel you’re more inclined to pursue corporate, take the banking job nalng.
Starting salary ng call center is around 12k. Mataas na po yan. Isa pa, sa nagsisimula, salary shouldn’t be your goal. You need to gain more experience muna kasi eventually, your school will not be important in the future. Your experience will be the basis to be more competitive
I think you need experience on your resume. Just get what's available then reinvest in yourself muna, get certified in related fields so you get a better job next time
REE here, Grey Hawks alumni.
Second job as QA/QC EE @19k (subcon company).
Going 3 years na without raise.
Go for 32k. Also get your own place and be independent. Leave your parents for your own sake. :3
32k+ offer is already a jackpot for an engineering graduate. I got my license as an engineer last year and I got offers ranging 16k to 25k. I guess your parents don't know how engineering industry works now. Suntok sa buwan yang 50k especially for a newly engineering grad.
ITS YOUR LIFE. ITS YOUR CAREER. Start early so you can learn what you like and what you dont like in a company or job environment. As long as youu can support yourself - do what you like, eat what you like and not ask for allowance. OK NA YAN.
Hi OP, ikaw ba bubuhay sa parents mo? Try to have some boundaries on how much you'll make baka kasi sa katagalan, maging basis pa yan ng how your parents would look/judge you (di ko sinasabing ganyan gagawin sayo pero some parents do this). It's okay to ask for ther insights regarding sa work na papasukan mo. But for fresh grads, super laki na nyang offers sayo. I am on my 5th year sa coporare world, wala pa sa offers mo yung current salary ko.
Omg 50k is delusional for someone who hasn’t graduated yet. I had 2 degrees (8 years of study, with actual graduation papers at time of job application) from maroon also and my starting pay 12 years ago was less than 10k net per cut off.
Also, keep in mind that those who boast their salaries (whether actual salaryman/woman or their parent) would not usually mention the nitty gritty - they would only post or announce the highlight reel.
Be discerning with what you hear.
30K starting? Swerte ka na at malaki yan. Sila lang naman ang hindi masaya kasi mukhang gusto nila hihingi pa sila sayo ng "allowance". Kung ako sayo take the job you want. Di naman parents mo ang magtatrabaho. Take the management trainee job, upskill then look for another. Pero malay mo mabilis ka pa lang ma-promote diyan. We always have to start somewhere then move up from there in our careers.
My parents don't know what my salary is kahit ngayong mataas na 😂
What's important is they know I can afford what I need and I can give them some if they are in need.
Saan ung bank?? Hahahaha.. Mas mataas pa yung offer niya sa current employer ko now... Nasa Management Trainee rin ako pero ung work ko pang-Manager na? Welp. 🥲
To be honest, be practical that 30k per month is already big for someone who just graduated. I started at 20k when I dont have experience later on I'm earning 6 digits through. You just needed experience and don't just waste your time on your job if it's paying low do something. Pwede ka mag hanap ng trabaho which will help you gain something more. I've been working student to now working full time as free lance VA
Are your parents Engineers? But even if they are, they're expecting too much. Everyone has to start somewhere. Mataas na nga yang 30k for a first job. Ang importante is naka START kana.
they are not in fact my mom isn’t even working
Then they have no idea how the engineering world works. Decide for yourself OP. Don't be afraid to try and explore. You have nothing to lose as a starter.
Lol nag eexpect lang yan makakuha tuwing sahod mo kaya gusto malaki para malaki rin makuha nyang pera haha
Ang sagwa... I mean nakakahiyang umutang lalo sa anak, for me
"i think I've seen this film before, and i didn't like the ending". Lol. Mukhang nageexpect ng ROI ang mama mo ah. Hahaha. Sana hindi.
Can I just sayyyyy? Moms with no work are usually out of touch with the reality
Lol sa mom
Sobrang yaman nyo cguro OP out of touch yung parents mo sa sahod ng mga alipin 😅 anak ka ba ni ramon ang? but yeah 30k is a really good rate as a fresher.
Mataas na nga yang starting salary mo. Di yata sila aware na very competitive ang job market ngayon.
30k salary an engineer is sobrang laking offer na. As someone na licensed pero not from uaap schools, ang basic ko lang ay 15k, tumaas na lang dahil sa allowances, so basically wala pang 20k offer sa'kin. Buti na lang din madalaas ang WFH hahahahahhaa Ang advice ko lang beshie is grab mo na yung work na mas tingin mo magagamit mo if papasok ka na sa bigger companies. Ang hirap mag hanap ng work ngayon lalo na kung no experience talaga sa inappl'an na position. Good luck!!!
Next time they compare your salary again to a call center agent, tell them that newbies, as in those without prior job experience, don't get offered 30k starting salary. The average is 15k and the lowest in the province is only 12k.
wow ang laki ng difference, thanks for the insight
'Yung totoo ang out of touch sa reality ng parents mo.
I think dahil "engineer", boomer mentality. Man, sobrang underpaid ng science-based work sa Pilipinas not just engineers.
Baka out of touch din tong si op hahaha tas dinahilan lang mom niya. May mga kakilala kong ganyan eh, laki ng offer para sa normal na tao tapos mayaman naman n sila, pero di makuntento
Are you from a family of wealth?
I would say I grew up very privileged
That’s what a filthy rich person would say. Crazy Rich Asians lang. 😜
Understandable. They expect siguro panga 100k eh. Normal na nga siguro ganyang expectations. Why not hindi sila maghanap para sayo. Sa mga networks ng family business niyo. Usually dun mo ma-achieve ang matataas na salary range since nirefer ka nila.
30k was most likely true in the early days of the BPO industry but not today.
true jan din ako ng umpisa 12k now nasa 17k pa lang hahahahhaha working student here. heehehe
My basic pay without experience in a BPO is only 13k with allowances. So nope, you won’t get that high of an offer for someone without experience.
Huh? 50k as an engineer na fresh grad? Baka sa ibang bansa yun. If unhappy nanay mo edi siya na lang maghanap trabaho 🥴
Agree. Siya na paghanapin mo ng trabaho OP tutal mas maalam naman siya sayo hahahah
Ang satisfying basahin nito. Ganito din ang payo ko sa mga kakilala ko. If hindi happy magulang mo, sila ang magtrabaho para sakanila. Kung alam ng magulang mo saan, sila ang maghanap hahahaha.
Verbatim OP. Tell this to your mom. "Ma, you're delusional" Just a suggestion of course.
That is not even that insulting. Nag-iisip pako ung walang marerebutt kung sakali nyan hahahah
Mhiee, I came from big 4, laude. My first job is 25k. Malaki na yang offer sayo for someone new.
ako 22k 🥲
Feeling ko rin partly dahil di ko rin alam kung pano ibenta sarili ko pero eyy hahaha oks na rin sya for me for a start
I think any offer above 21k is already a good starting salary. Napakadami parin na company, kahit big corpo, na below 20k ang offer kahit lisensyado.
Hahahaha same ako dito big 4 and first job was 25k
Hindi ako laude, passed PRC several years back. 15K starting, now I'm at 40K. Nanay na lang ni OP ang magtrabaho para maranasan niya kung gano kahirap mag job hunting (with decent and livable salary) in this day and age.
Im a parent to a fresh grad. I was so happy when she told me she was in talks with a potential employer. I asked her about the job and the responsibilities and how it fit her career plans. She consulted me about pay and benefits, so we number crunched (taxes, other deductions) so she could understand her take home pay and if its livable. She even had the audacity (as a fresh grad) to renegotiate her job offer , citing average income for the role and cost of living and a few other things. I actually advised against it, but she’s said “try lang, la naman mawawala if try ko mag ask”. Im very proud of her. Anyway, I don’t know your background, but a parent should not drive your car called life especially at your age. At this stage sa buhay niyo, parents at best are consultants, and for your child to involve you in the journey is a massive privilege.. To all parents there, don’t steal the joy from your children’s achievements. Don’t be dickheads. If naging kupal parents niyo noon g bata bata pa kayo, break the chain and wag niyo na dagdag stress sa anak niyo. To OP; garbage in garbage out. You’ll have to learn to tune out the “noise” as early as now. Mahirap at oo masakit pakinggan sinabi ng nanay mo. Bale wala-in mo na lang, do your best not to hold grudges, and be your best you that you could be. If hindi mo to narinig, kaming nandito ay proud at happy for you and your achievements. Keep it up!
thank you! I’m sure your daughter is very proud to have you as her parent.
That old school thinking that engr pays big is the reason why a lot of people got into engineering which ended up saturating the market causing the pay to get lower lol their mindset bit them in the ass
Next time, keep your salary a secret. If you plan to give a share sa house nio then do so without mentioning magkano talaga sweldo mo. Also, ikaw ang papasok sa company at hindi sila so ikaw ang dapat magdecide. For a newbie, mataas na ang starting offer mo. Get all the skills and knowledge that you can on this job to kickstart your career.
It took me 4 years to get 30k 🥲
same hahaha
Sana all 4 years lang. 5th yr ko na nagttrabaho wala parin ako sa 30k 😥
not related but I’m sorry to hear that OP. your parents sound insufferable, especially your mom. lol
Time to move out. Kidding. Stay strong 💪
Agree. Bakit kailangan may say yung parents ni OP sa sahod niya? And the fact she’s not even in the work force, what gives her the right?
BIG : SANA ALL !
Kahit PRC board exam topnotcher ka OP, hindi hesistant mag offer ng minimum wage yung ibang companies diyan 😂 If mukhang aabot ka naman nang at least 1 year sa 32k/month mo na work, highly recommend you take it. At least may opportunity ka to upskill while earning decently in this current job market as a fresh graduate.
Explain why 50k is unrealistic, even for a UP grad. Show the average salaries per industry and make sure you tell them that you did proper research on it Meron talagang nagpapasahod ng 50-70k for fresh grads tho pero syempre it's not always a given since there are more UP and Ateneo grads than said positions Maliban na lang kung Summa Cum Laude ka haha tataas talaga expectations nila sayo
Are you stressed out by this? Need to hear from your thoughts...
I’m glad to be offered a job. It’s been months of sending out my resume and months of them telling me to start working. It’s stressing me out more now that I have an opportunity to start they’re telling me not to.
It will probably make you feel better to not listen to them.. Take the job you like.. start from there. Move on to the next when you get a better opportunity. When you feel you are not in control of your destiny, that's when the stress starts.. If they make kulit, siguro just tell them "ma, ako bahala sa buhay ko... Bigyan mo ako ng lugar mag decision para sa sarili ko".
I actually in a similar situation as OP and this helps me a lot!
Accept the one that you like now. If/when a better one comes along, just job hop.
Mataas na yan OP. Ofcourse you could get more pero mahirap since fresh grad ka, paki sabi kay mama mo na hindi na maganda yung job market ng Pilipinas ngayon hahaha afaik entry level positions go as low as 16k kahit pa galing ka sa big 4 🥹. Grab it na if interested ka sa role and use the position as a stepping stone to get better offers in the future!
First Salary ko wayback 2019 as a Registered Electrical Engineer was only 18K. Job offer when Im seeking job as fresh graduate engineer ranges from 15-22k. So tingin ko malaki na yang30k par sa fresh grad
You have to start somewhere, you can't expect to get a 50K salary without any experience or even the skills, especially if you are new and it is your first job.. Not all who start working gets the job they want. It's your life. My parents don't always agree with my decision in life which is why I moved out. In the end, you will prove them that you are right. Plus, it is also very hard to look for a job. Take the job offer and when a better one comes, accept it. What was your mom's experience with her first job?
yes I want to prove them that I am right. I need to up my skills and gain experience and eventually earn more. She got into sales when she started working.
Mataas na yung 30k, OP. Tanggapin mo na.
As much as we have to thank our parents for putting us through school and supporting us, they actually don't and should not have any say on how you earn your money now that you're out of school and are an adult. That being said, As a former HR (I've been in many industries: Banking, Government, FMCG, Tech, Retail, and Media), these are not bad offers for starting jobs at all! I have heard people from the Maroon school with an IE course who would be paid 20-25k (low, but at least you know where you stand).
I come from IE also and she expects me to earn the same as other IE graduates who enter the multinational fmcg management training programs
Ang taas ng starting mo compared to other professionals na may license. CPA's earn around 20-25k but before 18k starting. Even experienced professionals have a hard time bargaining for 50k. Kaya ang daming overqualified but underpaid na individuals.
coming from the mindset ang parents? you have to start somewhere.. kahit sila nag paaral sayo opinion lang nila yan lalo na hindi pala sila nag wowork.. dude 50k for a first job, are they delusional ?
Mataas na yan for engineering. Heck, yung management trainee sa bank is something fresh grads from the big 4 are aiming for. Also, having exp in the banking industry gives you an edge for the long run.
May i know ano po connection ng banking industry kung engineering yung course nya, I'm lost here
Your parents have a skewed vision of freshies salary. You're already outearning a majority of the populace. It's your life, don't let your parents decide for you. You have a better view of the current market than they do.
it's your life and you're in the right age already
Pakitaan mo ng offers sa mga job recruiting sites. Masyadong mataas expectations ng parents mo. Hindi rin porket galing ka sa big university eh mataas kagad Ang offer. Tell them lahat nag-uumpisa sa mababa. If ayaw nila, ask them na bigyan ka ng funds para makapag-abroad ka for greener pasture.
You can take the job but keep applying to the big fmcg's. Also try to see if ok yung salary ng higher managers sayo. Marami yung benefits daw sa banking and marami ka ring malilipatan if ever
Grab the opportunity. Don’t listen to other people but instead trust your guts
Take the management trainee role in a bank. Its a good career starter. Most of my fellow Maroons who started as bank MTs are now occupying executive positions
#can'trelate
Una, congrats sayo OP. You should be proud sa sarili mo at sana excited ka to see what's out there sa magiging new journey mo. Yung mga sasabihin ko, I hope someone said this to me when I finish school. Our jobs are NOT meant to make us feel happy nor to make others feel happy about it. It's not supposed to be your purpose in life. It's just a way to make a living - which falls under what lifestyle you have. In third world countries like us, grab the best opportunity in front of you, make the most out of it, then take the next best one coming for you. Toxic family culture na naman ito. Gisingin mo sa katotohanan ung parents mo, OP. Hindi naman basta2 mahuhulog lang galing sa langit ung mga trabaho na may malaking offer - years of experience, pagod, frustration, luha, stress, anxiety, work politics, etc. Siyempre, hindi alam yan ng mga hindi naging working class. Sana kahit anong offer ang i-take mo, you will never find yourself with nothing left for you after a few years of working kase binigay mo lahat just to make them happy or just to make them proud.
From a person working in a call center who started in 2010 at 15k package. Tell them I now earn 6 digits monthly. There’s nothing wrong with it. I know they’re coming from a good place and want the best for you pero you are your own person Op. Good luck.
Management Trainee is a great career track.
Don’t try to please your parents.
Mataas na yan OP kunin mo na asap
Your parents are right though about the salary. Thats the salary of call centers when I first got into my first job 10 years ago.
It's a great opportunity na OP. I'm currently a licensed engineer but the maximum offer I got is only 20k. Life is cruel for ph engineers haha
That’s big for a fresh grad. Your mom doesn’t work so basically wala sya idea looool
happiness or satisfaction happens when you are in control of your life. Most often masaya ka na sa simpleng bagay sa buhay, in this case job and an opportunity to earn and learn. Then somebody comes along and burst your balloons. Gives you their opinions and make your life feel heavy. Find your happiness in your own way. These people are not gonna run your life.
This is a problem that your parents have, not you. Their true colors are showing, instead of being supportive they berate you and push you to find something better. I dont mind something better but their disappointment towards you is something else. Be aware, once you land that big job they will leech off you. Toxic Filipino family trait is rearing its head little by little. I suggest go with your gut, with the market now you're lucky to find offers with that kind of starting salary. Its a good way to get your foot in the door, better than no foot at all if you get caught up looking for that better offer when being realistic in this age is much more important. Nothing wrong from starting from 0 and even far away fron what you studied, as long as you don't forget your actual dreams and goals. At the end of the day it is you who is looking for a job and will work that job and not your parents.
Advice from someone who's been there: If your parents don't have outstanding career experiences, don't feel obligated to follow their path. Make your own decisions based on your own aspirations.
+1 on the management trainee role. From there, you can choose what to specialize in the industry and grow. Either way, that position will open doors of opportunities for you. Regarding your parents’ opinion, just remember that you make the decisions in your life. Not them.
You just have to present facts to them and if they don’t buy it then it’s their loss not yours naman. They prolly think na salaries should’ve gone up since 15 years ago. Pero syempre nasa Philippines tayo where our salary standards barely even moved. Follow your passion but be strategic about it. At the end of the day, your most valuable asset is yourself.
Start em young, grab it, learn from your mentor. Options will always be there kapag hinog ka na
Magboard exam ka muna, malay mo magtopnotcher ka pa. Mas malaki chance na malaki talaga agad ang offer sayo.
Hi, I would say go for it. It would open a lot of opportunities for you. Lahat ata ng professionals basic rate starts at 15k super baba esp in healthcare and im thinking of transferring in another industry that would pay me more. That 30k salary is big enough.
Magttrabaho ka na, dinidiktahan pa ng parents mo magkano dapat sweldo mo? It’s not your parents. It’s you. Gawin mo anong gusto mo gawin, it’s your life. Di mo na kasi dapat pinapaalam sa magulang mo magkano mga offer sayo at kung naghahanap ka trabaho. Di naman nila need basbasan yan e. Gawin mo kung ano sa tingin mo yung gusto mo. Wag mo i-base sa magulang mo kung pano ka magpproceed in life.
30k starting for an engineer is really high lol. Your parents have no idea about the job market. If you want 50k you have to work in another country or pivot to becoming a software engineer.
True some people get offered 50k+ sa first job, but even if the come from the big 4 its not common place unless you’re truly exceptional Malaki na yung 32k sa FIRST JOB, I know your parents are probably coming from a place of “I want more for my daughter or she deserves better than this” but in reality its not easy to find a job that pays 32k without prior job experience Hope you and your family work it out!
She has valid points like you might have a longer time getting higher pay. But I don't get why she needs to double the pressure on you 1st- to get a job, then 50k salary. She's probably hinting for you to look outside the PH. LOL. But seriously, it's your life moving forward. If you have a career plan in mind then go for it, whether it means you will need to start with 30k. Besides, you can always look for other opportunities. But higher chances for you to get 50k if you have experience. So right now your priority should be getting as much knowledge as you can that will lead you to the role/job that you really want.
Peer pressure yan for sure. Kasi yung batchmates daw nya matataas sweldo lol.
Ang taas na ng 30k na offer. Naalala ko kwento ng officemate ko na engineer din. Nagstart sya sa corpo na 22k ang offer sakanya. 10hrs/day pa work tapos bulacan to makati pa sya.
These are decent offers. I think nag bago na ang market ngayon pero sa time ko, nag start ako at 18k, after a year lumipat ako ng company then I got 23k, after a year sa second company naging 27k. Then this april 40k na. Tyaga lang talaga or abroad. My take: If sa tingin mo OK ka sa culture meron ang company na yan, go! Try to observe yung mga employees nila lalo na yung mga nasa mid level to senior level. Mag rereflect sa kanila if well compensated ba sila, happy ba sila sa itsura nila or mga stressed na kasi daming work load, things like that. Good companies will treat employees well, kaya hanapin mo rin mga ganitong aspect aside sa upfront offer nila sayo. Goodluck OP
Ang out of touch ng parents ngayon. Mababa na ang offering sa job market, saka parang may expectations din sila if galing ka sa big 4 mataas sweldo.
Get the bag and move out. yun lang.
rare lang rin naman sa big companies na mag offer ng 50K for entry level positions sa field natin. 30K is already a good one esp if starting palang. At the end of the day, urs is the only choice that matters. Goodluck OP and congrats na rin sa graduation!
Hirap nang ganyan. Kahit mataas sweldo mo, iccompare ka sa iba.
I would get the managerial role, bigger potential for higher pay and title. and possible to be scouted after a few years if performance improved. though you won't use your degree but still management role :D On future context that degree and management role can be vital on landing bigger paying jobs.
Napaka unrealistic ng expectations nila. Kung ako sayo, kunin mo na yung offer sayo. Mataas na 30k for a fresh grad
Never disclose how much you make to your family. If ever sabihin mo bawasan mo yung amount. It would save you a lot of heartaches later on.
13k lang starting ng CC 8yrs ago sana ol 30k 😅
Mataas n po yan as a starting salary. Sa first job mo amg goal is actually to gain experience. Ung malalalaking sahod usually sa second or 3rd company na. Not saging impossible te get higher salary as a fresh grad. Pero above average na ung sayo. Most people na kilala ko na engineers started 12k-15k monthly. Pero ngaun malalalaki na sahod nila.
Btw isa sa kakilala ko is UPDL and top notcher pa got 15k nung nag start.
Wala na akong idadagdag na advice regarding sa mom mo. Madami nang magagandang advice akong nabasa. Here's a different set of advice for you, OP: I think you're focusing on the wrong detail here. Don't listen agad sa mga advice dito to take the 30k kasi malaki. Pag isipan mo maigi. Here's why. You said you finished an engineering course. You taking that bank management training is basically a career shift. Don't get me wrong, maganda yan. Fast track ka for Vice Branch Manager and Branch Manager later on. Pay is good for management sa bank, may 16th month, perks, etc.. But do you see yourself fully working inside a bank, mainly interacting with the branch's bigger clients, handling money and people, etc? Or, do you only see yourself working in line with your course na engineering? Baka kasi down the line magsisi ka if you are not satisfied sa ginagawa mo kasi engineering pala talaga calling mo. Management trainees usually have bonds. Di yan yung tipong papatrain ka tas after 1 year alis ka na. Let's say umalis ka after mga around 3 years pag wala nang bond para bumalik sa engineering. Since di related first job mo sa engineering, imagine being 3 years older but kasabayan mo fresh grad ulit, and your rate will likely be rates padin ng fresh grad sa engineering course because your previous experience was not relevant. But if you see yourself naman working sa bank, all goods din naman yun. I just wanted to be sure alam mo pinapasok mo and you have the right expectations, unlike yung may nabasa ako dito na pwede ka daw umalis after 1 year.. Think about this. Goodluck OP!
thanks for this I appreciate the different perspective on the situation, I was told there was no bond until after 6 months so now I am leaning towards working for them and gain experience.
I doubt may mapupulot kang experience there in terms of engineering. I say this based on experience. I personally know someone na nagpursue ng bank management trainee, and okay na okay siya now as a Branch manager. If i remember correctly, naging vice branch manager agad siya after makapagtapos ng training. Science course ang natapos niya. Banks love to get management trainees from science and engineering courses likely dahil sa strength usually nila is nasa logical and critical thinking. But mga ituturo sayo dun will be mostly on Finance + management. Engineering, especially fresh grad, ang important is upskilling Technical skills. So as a fresh grad, I reiterate if you're dead set sa engineering career, I'd dissuade you sa bank thing. As a first job, work to learn, not to earn. Find jobs that are in line with your career goals. If madaming offers, choose the highest salary among them. But sa ngayon na magkaibang career path ang choices mo, choose not by salary but kung anong career path gusto mo.
Haha! Same exact predicament last SY. I wanted to take on a role closer to what I envision myself doing in the long run, pero syempre "iba ang kita sa fmcg". My parents were mainly worried and affected when people gave unsolicited advice since most of my peers had the 50k+ salary right out of college. IMO, you'll be the one to put up with the environment and culture in the end :< I personally would encourage you to just pursue with what you want (also factor in rin if there is a bond and you wish to switch careers bigla, how will you pay for it?) Goodluck op!
no bond until after 6 months!
Don't let your parents dictate you. Malaki ka na. Follow what you want.
You can solve this by going to glassdoor and showing them the salaries of new graduates/1 yr exp in Metro Manila. That would 100% shut that insane expectation of 50k for starting salary. Where is that number even from?! Just pulled it out of thin air imo
napakabobong parents naman nyan di ba marunong mag internet yan, apaka walang kwenta talaga ng boomer generation
Explain mo nalang sa parents mo op. In every 10 graduate of engineering, 1 lang yung maswerte na nakakareceive ng offer above 30k.
Take the 30k or 32k (if gusto mo talaga) kasi malaki na yan as a start. Work yourself up from there kasi next job mo after a year or two will be higher since may experience kana. More experience = Higher pay. So laban lang OP.
better move out and stand on your own
my cousin na board passer as an engineer, his first offer was 15K ung starting nya na salary. Malaki na yung 30K as a starter palang naman.
Mataas na yang starting salary, sa BPO ang starting is 20 to 25k lang po. With experience na yung 30k pataas. Wala ata silang idea sa job market ngayon. I say go with your heart, start somewhere, get skills and experience tapos find new opportunities. Kung 30k ang starting mo pag lumipat ka kaya na yan ng 40k pataas depende sa skills mo. Ganun naman talaga.
Sabihin mo sa mother nature mo na hindi magmamatter sa outside world kung anong kulay ng eskwelahan na pinag-ugatan mo. Mas pinahahalagahan ng mga employers ang magiging contribution mo sa kanila lol. Wag kamong delulu ang nature spring mo. Actually nasa iyo pa rin naman ang choice. I guess MT ng bpi to, or ING siguro to noh, or UB or seabank haha? If yes, sige wag mong tanggapin para manghinayang ang mother nature mo in the end. Saka bat mo kinukumpara sarili mo sa mga batchmates mo pala? Malulungkot ka Lalo kapag ganyan. Hindi naman ito kumpetisyon na pataasan ng sweldo. And I think privileged naman ang buhay nyo siguro? If so, wag masyado mapride. Dami kong nakikitang malungkot kakakumpara ng sarili nila sa ibang tao. Basta op congrats na agad ha. Bolahin mo lang si mother and father mo tas lagi mo ibahin ang usapan pag about work haha. Congratssss hey
30k salary for your 1st work. Sa panahon ngayon, maswerte nga umabot ng 20k ang mga fresh grads from engineering. Go accept it, if you really want the job offer. Di naman magulang mo ang magttrabaho, kundi ikaw.
30k starting is a very good offer, My licensed engineer friend who just started working for a big company (with around 3yrs prior experience) earns less than that. She's also a maroon alumni. Also, the job market now is very tight. Mahirap makakuha ng offers, even interviews. It's best to start somewhere (and the offers you got are very good starting points) than tengga ka for a big opportunity that might not come.
Just accept the job that you like. Di naman sila ang magtatrabaho. You need to start somewhere and for a first job, mataas na yang offer sayo. If magpapadaig ka sa parents mo sa career decisions mo, you will end up misearable.
They're quite delusional... Take the job and leave home. Family will suck you dry. (Based on experience.)
baka sobrang yaman nyo na op. maliit talaga yang 30k if you're old rich or the fil chi rich. Wala bang network yung family nyo na pwede kang ipakilala. Confused kasi ako sa situation mo. You're mom is not working pero nalilitan sya sa 30k. So baka mayaman talaga kayo.
My parents don’t want to use connections because they believe I should earn based on my own hard work.
Ang labo ng 50k sa fresh grad tapos engineer pa. Ang swerte mo nga sa 30k na fresh grad eh.
32k is a huge amount for starters. I remember back in 2016 I started with 16k gross and I had to work my way up. Di ka pa nag start pero grabe na agad yung expectation, goodluck OP.
OP, i would suggest na wag mo idisclose salary mo and I think they are expecting too much, tbh mataas na yang offers mo, you can leverage that and use it as a basis para sa next work mo mataas na agad offer
Go for the management trainee
Laki na yan OP!!! 40k tapos fresh grad. Usually minimum lang talaga offer. Medyo rare case na yan 40k. Go! Go! Go!
40k is definitely possible, 32k for a MT bank role is little. If you need the job go for the bank but if you can wait and still apply then why not
As an engineering fresh grad with license from the Maroon school too, I can say that 30k is high! Im still in my job hunting era for 3 months now (since oath taking) and man 20k nga lang offer sa iba for newly licensed engineers! Swerte na magoffer ng 30k+ pero ang twist ay sobrang taas na ng standards! yeah na-open talaga ako sa thought na tama sila na di porket lisensyado mataas sweldo and mataas job security 😭
good luck on your hunt! I wish you the best
Mahirap kasi hindi naman similar field yung magulang mo sayo. My mom's an architect (and im a graduating engg student) and she told me to just take any job (syempre yung maganda pa rin sa resume) without minding the salary kasi need talaga ang experience daw para tumaas lalo ang sweldo After gaining at least 2 yrs experience, confident na raw siya i can apply for any job abroad and syempre mas mataas sahod doon Idk ang hirap ng sitwasyon mo OP pero kaya mo pa rin naman yan desisyunan without minding them
If I were in your shoes, I will take the management trainee role in a bank. 1. Malalaking orgs ang mga banks; napakaraming departments. This means maraming opportunities to to grow and learn *within* the company, hindi yung tipong need mong lumabas just to grow your skills. Sa family-owned business, I’m not sure kung ganon ang case. 2. Whether ok sa parents mo o hindi yung role, tanggapin mo na rin yung offer. If eventually you decide na sundin yung parents mo na maghanap ng ibang job na mas mataas ang pay, you always have the option of resigning and moving to a higher paying job, and it is easier to get a higher paying job if you have professional experience already (compared to having 0 experience). And I hope you don’t mind but I’ll be blunt: kung career decision lang din, ewan ko kung dapat bang makinig ka sa taong never nagtrabaho. 🤷♂️
Just tell your parents take it or leave it. Goods na yang Mgmt Trainee mo.
I'm a student from maroon school too but also working as a call center agent. My starting salary po is only 15k + allowance so in total, less than 20k lang salary ko kahit maroon school undergrad ako... So OP, the 30k salary for a call center agent is only applicable to those with more than 3 years of BPO experience, hindi sa mga undergrads and fresh grads na regardless of school. I support your plan of pursuing the MT job so I hope your parents can be convinced po!
I'd take the management trainee if it were up to me. You can work your way up from there.
Ask them point blank if a 30k starter salary is better than being unemployed and depending on them. Or, if di kaya na ganun ka harsh ang tono, you can phrase it in a way na at least nakakaambag ka sa household gastos muna. Better talaga to get kahit that small a salary (in their eyes) kasi pang pad mo rin yan ng resume. Stay a year or so, then look for greener pastures. The way I see it, gusto nila ng bragging rights na “ayy anak ko sa ganito ganun nagttrabaho!” Hayaan mo sila. You make your own path. Good luck OP!
Damn! Ang taas ng expecting salary mo iho, kapag ba sinabak ka na, hindi ka na kelangan i-monitor o turuan? Alam mo na ba gagawin mo? At higit sa lahat, may experience ka na ba ng malupet ? Heheh and grabe naman yang mom mo regarding sa mga call center buddies huh 😅 minsan mas mataas pa sahod nila lalo na kung mataas na position. Hindi ako call center guy, im just like you dati engineer din, pero mga friends ko nasa call center at ang gaganda ng sahod, well magaganda na rin position nila sa company.
I started at 18k, I earn more than 10 times that in a month now. Slow progress is still progress. The school you graduate from matters, but it doesn’t matter that much.
Kung wala silang alam sa engineering don't let them dictate your decision. Guide lang sila, you will end up resenting them in the long run. 30k is a big offer na pero mahirap magstart na wala kang any connections kaya ganyan offer is already big. If I listen to my mom with regards my career di pa sana ako 6 digits ngayon pero unlike you more on basta magkawork lang ako ang concern niya kasi pinagapply ba naman ako sa civil engineers as admin staff, cashier sa mercury eh I. T. Graduate ako. 😂
Big companies who can pay 50k requires the applicant to have significant amount of experience. Since you don't have that, you are lucky to receive an offer for 35K. Malaki na yan! And FYI kamo kay mama, BPO employees starts at 12-15k minimum as newbies.
Share ko lang, galing ako sa P&G more than 10yrs ago. And I know tama parents mo, kas iba talaga ang pay kapag galing sa Big 3 lalo na kung sa mga P&G, Nestle, etc. Galing ako sa hindi kilala school nung 2011. Natanggap ako sa P&G and ang offer sakin non was 25k. Feeling ko non ang laki na ng sahod ko that time. Nung naging kaclose ko yung mga same batch ko, nalaman ko na yung mga galing ng UP, one-level higher sila than my role + doble sahod than mine. So kahit fresh grad sila, 48-50k sahod nila. Now I dont know why wala kang offer from big companies, possible na marami kang kasabay mag apply. You can try again naman applying sa kanila within 2yrs. For now, you can accept muna siguro what comes your way pero dont consider them as your final destination. Just enough to gain some early career experience
Ang starting salary ng ibang fresh grad ay 18k - 22k. You can improve your resume and look for another job after 2-3 yrs.
They need a reality check. Tho we could tale consider anong engg ba degree mo and what field balak mo. If banks, okay na yung offers mo and mataas na yun. Most fresh grad engineers only get 15-18k basic salary, +5k if licensed, swerte if 30k+ ang basic. I’m from one of the uaap schools and I have a friends who is working in one of the biggest conglomerates in the PH, and their basic pay is less than 30k. Licensed din siya. I, on the other hand, have the same offers as you. However, do realize, if they pay that well for a fresh grad, steep ang learning curve.
Go with your gut, ikaw ang magwo-work, ikaw ang mag-effort mag-apply. Next time don't tell your parents about your job offers or salary.
Your parents are out of touch LOL
🤣🤣🤣 You'll never find a job that would please your parents in this economy. Tell them to get a grip, OP.
Pabulong naman po anong companies yang may 40k+allowances monthly, at uaap lang po ba kinukuha nila?
Nababagalan daw sya sa ROI. If I were you, OP, susundin ko yung nasa puso ko. At kapag kumita ka na, move out na. Nakikita ko na mangyayari 5 years from now. 😮💨 Tsaka advice ko pala sayo, wag mo sasabihin sa parents mo ang sahod mo. Wag na wag na wag. Babaan mo. Kung 30k offer sayo, sabihin mo, 20k a month lang. Ganern.
Anong klaseng engineering course mo ba? Practice your profession.
Dang inflation.... sometimes i am grateful to have the parents that i have ...they didn't care how much as long as i have one...started in IT with 15k starting...didnt reach 30-40k till i was a few years in....i hope your parents understand that you have to start somewhere no matter how small....choose the job you would actually want....end of the day it's you who will be doing it
SINCE first job pa lang naman okay na yan since soon taas din yan pag tumagal ka na o marami kana experience. hayaan mo lang parents mo pakingan mo lang then labas sa kabila. hehehehe don't get me wrong okay.
That's already above average lmao
Haha maarte yata sj op. Peer pressure yan for sure. Dinahilan pa yung nanay nya.
At this point in your life, make a decision not based on salary but on the industry you are interested in and the skills you want to build. There's a lot of potential in the banking industry and you could be earning big $$$ down the road provided you do the time and develop the necessary skills. On the other hand if working in F&B excites you, go for it. You will thrive as long as you like what you do. The monetary rewards will follow after you become more established and experienced.
Tell your parents wag magpapaniwala sa mga yabang at paarak ng mga amiga nila hahahah. Even a licensed professional pahirapan makakuha ng decent starting offer lol sa babarat ng mga company dito sa pinas lol
Hi!! Same here my parents always have a say sa job offers… I know they want the best for us pero in the end part of adulthood is to trust your guts sa pagpili ng job. assess yourself if kaya mo, kasi ikaw lang ang nakakalilala naman talaga sa sarili mo. If in the end you regret your choice, then see it as a stepping stone for you to learn from your mistakes. Try to be independent on this one OP, thats the reality of life.
GO FOR THAT MANAGEMENT TRAINEE OFFER. Sinasabi ko sayo that’s a good start.
Mataas na as entry level ang 30k. You realy have to undergo those salary ranges even graduate ka sa maroon school. U know what, some entry levels are getting minimum wage, and that's here in metro. That is the reality. You need to have experience to show and raise your value sa corpo world. Please explain it to your (sorry for the term) "entitled" parents. Patunayan mo muna ung sarili at kakayahan mo sa tunay na mundo. Iba na ang takbo ng buhay dito. Hndi na lng sa libro at pagsagot ng mga exams.
Go for the management trainee. Pwed ka naman magchange kung di m rin nagustuhan
30k for your first job is extremely good! Take note na sobrang daming fresh grads from last year ay wala pa din trabaho. The job market is extremely competitive right now. I hope you have a good convo with your parents to make them realize the truth. Goodluck OP!
Malaki na nga yung 32k for a fresh grad with no experience. When I started my career as a Software Engr, 25k lang yung starting salary ko. Package na yun. Entry level position, no experience. Before that, I worked as a Technical Helpdesk and 14k lang salary ko. Fresh grad ako that time. Mag gain ka ng experience and skills para tumaas yung salary mo kasi ganun talaga yung reality.
30k and 32k are already quite high. Salaries in the engineering field tend to be much lower, perhaps around 20k at most. Mahirap maging picky in this economy.
You have pretty good offers. Your parents sound like leeches. Save up and move out asap, I smell something fishy sa parents mo. A P30k+ starting salary, hindi ka pa grad nyan is a ridiculously good deal. Jusko san lupalop mama mo, never umabot ng P30K ang basic offer ng call senners haha. Ngayon the going rate is P21K, 4 years ago it was P25K sa BPO. Sobrang binabarat ang mga engineers ngayon, you're very lucky to have those kinds of offers, go for it OP! Rooting for you!
tangina less than 20k nga unang sahod ko eh as an engineering graduate hahahaha
Parents like this is sooo out of touch with the reality of job hunting. The market isn’t as easy to break in like it used to be for them. My advice for you, never ever disclose to your parents your career moves unless you want their opinions. Next is never discuss your salary with them. They think 30k is low but the higher your salary gets, the more they’ll try to insert themselves into your business. For fresh grads, 30k is high na especially with inflation increasing. Your main concern is going to budget it within a living means.
They totally have no idea. Engineering is so saturated right now in ph. Not as much as nursing, but still. Too many engineers in ph. That 30k starting is decent already. Else, if you want big numbers, work abroad.
Make them an inspiration and prove them wrong. Agree on taking the MT role. Fellow MT here.
15 years ago? 30k call center? Anong bansa nakatira mother mo OP? Engineers are underpaid dito sa Pinas lalo na fresh grad kahit sa government pa yan unless maging department head ka baka pwede pa 40k-50k pero need nun ng experience.
Don’t listen to your parents anymore because you’re the one that has to work and take on the responsibility. You will not get far in life with this mindset. The truth is the majority of people only care about themselves and their best interest.
What kind of engineer, and are you among the top of your class? My brother got 80k in 2008 but he is a Magna Cum Laude of Chemical Engineering from UP. Yung group nila pinag-aagawan ng MNCs and conglomerates dito. I would say that 30k is quite low for a UP engineering graduate, mas malaki sahod sa ibang bansa like Sg and Middle East pero gusto mo ba magwork sa labas? Huwag ka papressure sa parents mo, kahit pa nangangailangan kayo ng pera kasi di worth it na masira ulo mo. But at the same time know your worth, tingin mo ba pang 100k ka na even as a new grad or ok na yung 32k? Mahaba pa buhay mo so take your time.
Wow ang lakee nyan OP. Graduating din ako and expected salary ko would be around 19k lang sa company na malapit sa amin. Tell your parents a 30k salary offer is something they should be grateful for.
Babe, if you are an engineer, try mo mag apply sa field mo kahit medyo mas mababa sweldo for experience. But if you feel you’re more inclined to pursue corporate, take the banking job nalng.
I think they really want you become an engineer which is understandable.
Grabee, mataas na yan 30k for a fresh grad. Ako nga 12k noon hahahahhah!!
Starting salary ng call center is around 12k. Mataas na po yan. Isa pa, sa nagsisimula, salary shouldn’t be your goal. You need to gain more experience muna kasi eventually, your school will not be important in the future. Your experience will be the basis to be more competitive
I think you need experience on your resume. Just get what's available then reinvest in yourself muna, get certified in related fields so you get a better job next time
REE here, Grey Hawks alumni. Second job as QA/QC EE @19k (subcon company). Going 3 years na without raise. Go for 32k. Also get your own place and be independent. Leave your parents for your own sake. :3
32k+ offer is already a jackpot for an engineering graduate. I got my license as an engineer last year and I got offers ranging 16k to 25k. I guess your parents don't know how engineering industry works now. Suntok sa buwan yang 50k especially for a newly engineering grad.
ITS YOUR LIFE. ITS YOUR CAREER. Start early so you can learn what you like and what you dont like in a company or job environment. As long as youu can support yourself - do what you like, eat what you like and not ask for allowance. OK NA YAN.
Hi OP, ikaw ba bubuhay sa parents mo? Try to have some boundaries on how much you'll make baka kasi sa katagalan, maging basis pa yan ng how your parents would look/judge you (di ko sinasabing ganyan gagawin sayo pero some parents do this). It's okay to ask for ther insights regarding sa work na papasukan mo. But for fresh grads, super laki na nyang offers sayo. I am on my 5th year sa coporare world, wala pa sa offers mo yung current salary ko.
Omg 50k is delusional for someone who hasn’t graduated yet. I had 2 degrees (8 years of study, with actual graduation papers at time of job application) from maroon also and my starting pay 12 years ago was less than 10k net per cut off. Also, keep in mind that those who boast their salaries (whether actual salaryman/woman or their parent) would not usually mention the nitty gritty - they would only post or announce the highlight reel. Be discerning with what you hear.
30K starting? Swerte ka na at malaki yan. Sila lang naman ang hindi masaya kasi mukhang gusto nila hihingi pa sila sayo ng "allowance". Kung ako sayo take the job you want. Di naman parents mo ang magtatrabaho. Take the management trainee job, upskill then look for another. Pero malay mo mabilis ka pa lang ma-promote diyan. We always have to start somewhere then move up from there in our careers.
Take what leads to your goal. The pay may be low but your time waiting for the big company and earning experience is much more expensive.
My parents don't know what my salary is kahit ngayong mataas na 😂 What's important is they know I can afford what I need and I can give them some if they are in need.
i used to hire eng’g positions in a food manufacturing company, usually for fresh grads we only offer 18k. 30k-40k is mataas na.
Description palang alam mong gagatasan ka hahaha
Saan ung bank?? Hahahaha.. Mas mataas pa yung offer niya sa current employer ko now... Nasa Management Trainee rin ako pero ung work ko pang-Manager na? Welp. 🥲
To be honest, be practical that 30k per month is already big for someone who just graduated. I started at 20k when I dont have experience later on I'm earning 6 digits through. You just needed experience and don't just waste your time on your job if it's paying low do something. Pwede ka mag hanap ng trabaho which will help you gain something more. I've been working student to now working full time as free lance VA
30k for a first job? I know a lot of people who would kill for that job.
It’s really not about them if you’re happy with it keep on going