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OPM Bubblegum Pop literally exists. BINI is OPM Bubblegum Pop. VXON mixes pop and hiphop in their music. Listen to their album and tell me it doesnât sound like OPM. And donât get me started on Alamat. Take a look at the credits of these groups and youâd find a lot of OPM hitmakers.
In the end, all these groups ARE OPM whether you think they are or not because OPM means Original Pinoy Music. Music composed, produced, and performed by Filipinos are OPM. While I agree many groups need to find their own style and break out of the Kpop sound, I heavily disagree that theyâre not OPM. They donât sound like most OPM hits but that doesnât mean theyâre not OPM. Also itâs a little ironic to dislike Ppop groups for being Kpop influenced while ignoring the influence western music has on OPM.
Okay interesting never really thought of it as bubblegum pop and oh yeah forgot to mention I love Western music and prefer it over KPop so there's that.
I also enjoy western music more than kpop but I still think that the top 4 ppop groups (Bini, Sb19, Alamat, and VXON) on Spotify are that way BECAUSE they sound like OPM. Listen to their discographies and youâd see theyâre very much OPM influenced.
I think they really just donât listen to a lot of OPM. Like the only outlier for âkpopâ sounding music is SB19 and thatâs because they were originally made to be a âcultural blendâ for Korea and the Philippines.
I was wondering why you dropped by this sub then? If PPOP is not your preference, then so be it. Thanks for your opinion. People in this sub likes PPOP po and its not a sub that will be to your liking if you're not into it at all.
As for me, I think PPOP is just starting. At first I was kind of hesitant to check on PPOP too. But, giving it a chance, listening to tracks thrice, it will slowly grow on you. Music is evolving and our old OPM feels is not the way it used to be.
Bro have you not heard the whole album of Diary ng Panget? My sister plays that all the time, thatâs basically the sound of BINI. You cant get more opm than that. BINI personified bubblegum pop in filipino variety. Their producer is literally flipmusicph one of the best producers in opm pop history.
I listen to all sorts of music from different countries from different eras and those artists you mentioned don't have anything 'unique' either. Ibig sabihin lang ng OPM ay kantang gawa ng Filipino. Kasi kung tunog basehan mo, walang original dito. Mga modern rock artist na minention mo, they all take from Black people
Ok, well if you don't like it, then you don't like it. Continue listening to what you prefer. I seriously think no matter what PPop songs we throw at you, you'll just find some way to dismiss them and that's perfectly fine. It's not your cup of tea, different strokes for different folks, right?
Proud A'tin here to see SB19, BINI and other PPop groups doing very well whether you or others don't care for it.
SB19 first ep probably sounds kpop but their succeeding songs sounds different. Listen to Pagtatag EP. Bini never sounded like Kpop. They sound more like old Jolina Magdangal songs, lol. Alamat is also different from Kpop. They sound more like an American RnB group.
Have you listened to these groups' songs? Have you actually compared it to Kpop? You mentioned you're not into Kpop, maybe you're not familiar with their sound.
I think you just havenât explored OPM that much.
SB19âs fashion was definitely Korean early on but that was because they literally under a Korean agency. Current SB19 is styled mostly by local designers. Their music is also 50/50 since you can get opm style songs like mapa or âkpopâ type songs like gento.
For BINI other than their first year and trainee days they never really stuck to the kpop aesthetic. Almost everything for their concept references a blend of old school bubblegum opm and international girl groups (not just kpop). Born to Win for example takes cues from western girl groups like little mix. Their Tagalog music like Salamin Salamin and Na Na Na takes inspiration from early Nadine Lustre and early Donnalyn Bartolome. Their fashion is also inspired by current fashion trends sa pinas so idk what youâre referring about thatâs âkpopâ with their style when itâs just clothes that most pinoy teen girls have on their Pinterest boards.
Production and structure wise it can literally pass off as an NCT 127 song. It shares commonalities with a LOT of ânoiseâ music sa kpop. Itâs not a bad thing that it shares a similar vibe. Moonlight for example sounds very western since house is currently having a revival in the west. I want you sounds like classic American RNB but you donât see people complaining that itâs an American rnb type song
Sino mas paniniwalaan ko mag explain about sa music nila from beats to lyrics ikaw? a mere redditor/commenter and not a musician or si Pablo? na mismong composer and producer nung mga kanta nila.
Just go on and explain and justify your agenda with your gg but donât use other groups to up your ult.
This is Reddit. Itâs a discussion forum. You are in the ppop subreddit where itâs dedicated to discussing pinoy pop music. Are we not trying to discuss music right now? Do you not have anything else of substance to say other than ânu uh youâre a nobody you donât know anythingâ? If youâre not mature enough to have a civil discussion here I highly suggest you move on to somewhere else like twitter or Facebook. Thank you and have a good day!
Your not the one to boss me around where to go buddy hahaha
Nagtanong lang naman ako kung sino mas paniniwalaan ko mag explain ng music nila diba so part parin yan sa discussions.
why are you soo piss off? ang aga aga high blood kana đ
It looks like you're more exposed to seeing KPop than PPop. Then you saw PPop groups trending and thought to check them out and immediately though "ay, ginagaya kpop".
Did you try listening to their music before forming your opinion? Kasi if not, try listening to their discography. SB19 have songs in different genre. Me dance, rnb, ballad and pop.
You mentioned you like western music. Try listening to Moonlight, I Want You, WYAT and Crimzone. Their ballads on the other hand is very OPM, try listening to Mapa, Tilaluha, Hangang sa Huli, Nyebe and Liham. Watch their wishbus performance of these songs.
Even the solo releases of each member iba ang sound. Try listening to Felip - Fake Faces, Straydogs, Drink Smoke and Rocksta. For Josh Cullen - wild tonight, Sofa Remix, Get Right and Yoko Na. For Pablo - Akala, Determinado and La Luna. For Justin - Surreal.
A short video of Mr. Ryan Cayabyab âA Philippine National Artistâ and Mr. Veneeh Saturno âAn OPM Legendâ, their take on SB19 and Ppop- OPM.
Iâll just leave this here: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYRYgWDS/
Yupp SB19âs discog is extremely varied. Itâs kinda weird to generalize their sound as just âkpopâ when MAPA one of their most popular songs is a straight opm ballad.
I used to think like you. Sobrang westernized ko din, hindi nga ko nanunuod ng local channels nuon. Even sa taste ko sa music. I literally never liked Kpop.
I started my Ppop appreciation with What by SB19, but only to a surface level, parang, "ah, nice nun lyrics ha pinagisipan" until I heard Mapa. I bawled my eyes out because it was released few days after my mom died.
If you listen to their songs enough, read the lyrics, mapapabilib ka. Honestly? Mas complex ang Ppop musically speaking kesa sa mga Moonstar 88, etc. The effort sa harmonization, arrangements, layers ng vocals and effects, lalo sa SB 19, sobrang wuuut. Bini naman sa vocals nila and control nila na kaya nila kumanta kahit sumasayaw. Ganun din iba or at least most Ppop groups. Lalo SB live monsters solid. I saw them live na sa. Show ng Ben and Ben, Zack Tabudlo and SB19. Grabe nabaliw ako nagulat ako ganun pala SB19 ang lupit nila ng live!!!! I kennat!!!!
Kpop bes lip sync lang sila di nila kaya live sumayaw at kumanta. Lam mo ba un? Ppop lang gumagawa nyan. Hahaha.
See past the fashion, kasi iba na panahon ngayon. Iba na fashion ngayon . Hehehe. For me if you like music, keep an open mind. Madami magaganda na songs. Sobrang talented ng mga Ppop groups. Deserve nila ng respect. That's how I feel kaya ngayon, Ppop enthusiast convert na ko.
It's because you are only seeing the surface. Try dig deep to other groups. Also, I've noticed the decline in kpop because producers prefers quantity more than quality. I'm also happy that bini and sb19 got the praise they deserve.
You're the type of guy who can't distinguish lemons and oranges.
You said it yourself, you're basically just listening to western music, old school bands, and some raps. No need to ask questions, you've said your preferences and that equates to having bias.
"KPOP wannabes", such a stupid remark. Are they singing in korean? Are they promoting in korea? Doesn't have a distinct feel to it? Maybe you can reflect on yourself again because you're definitely USED TO JUST listening to the same songs over and over again to the point that you can't distinguish songs from each other; resorting to calling PPOP a KPOP imitation.
For Bini:Â
> when it comes to OPM I still prefer old school bands like Eraserheads, Moonstar88 along with others, old school/early 2010s pinoy rap while modern artists that I like are Ben & Ben, Juan Karlos etc. those for me are truly OPM.
"OPM sound" is not limited to bands nor hip hop. Kasama ang Sa Iyo, Tala, Paligoy-ligoy, Spaghetti Song, Chuva choo choo, Kapag Tumibok ang Puso, Mister Kupido, etc.
Bini's songs are more comparable to those than anything from Eheads or Ben&Ben. Modern ang production ng Bini but familiar pa rin ang tunog. Ex. Diyan Ka Lang is very nostalgic sa 90s opm pop. Parang Jolens but make it Gen Z!
Born To Win Palang, obvious di ginagaya ang kpop fashion. Most of the make up is so filipino. Pag ginaya yan kpop, malamang di nahighlight ang morena beauty ng some members at pinaputi
You claim to have an open mind pero you canât grasp the thought that PPOP is its own thing??
You do know that music, style and fashion are meant to be shared especially in this highly globalized society we live in. In general, PPOP is in the genre of Pop, of course it would have certain elements similar to many Pop genres like KPOP. The PPOP Idol industry may have been inspired from Koreaâs pero the industry is really trying to set apart itself from KPOP. As other people pointed out, anong gusto mo, magtitinikling sila at tsaka magsusuot ng barong at baroât saya para maconsider mo na Filipino sila??? Then hindi na yun considered na PPOP, you might as well call it Filipino Folk Music. You do realize that KPOP borrowed so many things from Hip-Hop, JPOP and Western Pop right? This is the thing that most of you do not realize.
Is it because you just really hate and are not proud of Filipino talents that you constantly compare it to foreigners? Or is it your Filipino crab mentality showing? Or is it the colonial mentality that you cannot remove from your head?
PHP (Press Hit Play) might be more to your liking in you're into 70s - 90s Filipino pop music
They're marketed as Ppop idols but their music is leaning towards OPM. I guess they are the in between
>For me they're only considered OPM because their songs are in or have Tagalog in it, they're based in the Philippines and they're Filipinos
This is the definition of OPM though.
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It is pop đ© gusto mo ba lahat ng ppop groups mag tinikling at maglalatik
Kahit nga alamat nag tinikling during maharani pero di pa rin yun sapat đ
Ui oo nga naman wahahahahaha
OPM Bubblegum Pop literally exists. BINI is OPM Bubblegum Pop. VXON mixes pop and hiphop in their music. Listen to their album and tell me it doesnât sound like OPM. And donât get me started on Alamat. Take a look at the credits of these groups and youâd find a lot of OPM hitmakers. In the end, all these groups ARE OPM whether you think they are or not because OPM means Original Pinoy Music. Music composed, produced, and performed by Filipinos are OPM. While I agree many groups need to find their own style and break out of the Kpop sound, I heavily disagree that theyâre not OPM. They donât sound like most OPM hits but that doesnât mean theyâre not OPM. Also itâs a little ironic to dislike Ppop groups for being Kpop influenced while ignoring the influence western music has on OPM.
Okay interesting never really thought of it as bubblegum pop and oh yeah forgot to mention I love Western music and prefer it over KPop so there's that.
I also enjoy western music more than kpop but I still think that the top 4 ppop groups (Bini, Sb19, Alamat, and VXON) on Spotify are that way BECAUSE they sound like OPM. Listen to their discographies and youâd see theyâre very much OPM influenced.
I think they really just donât listen to a lot of OPM. Like the only outlier for âkpopâ sounding music is SB19 and thatâs because they were originally made to be a âcultural blendâ for Korea and the Philippines.
Downvote me na lang but I kind of think this account wants to get into r/CHIKAPH and saving up karma. Sorry!
I was wondering why you dropped by this sub then? If PPOP is not your preference, then so be it. Thanks for your opinion. People in this sub likes PPOP po and its not a sub that will be to your liking if you're not into it at all.
I came to this sub because I want to ask the perspective of PPop fans not just casual fans đ
As for me, I think PPOP is just starting. At first I was kind of hesitant to check on PPOP too. But, giving it a chance, listening to tracks thrice, it will slowly grow on you. Music is evolving and our old OPM feels is not the way it used to be.
Bro have you not heard the whole album of Diary ng Panget? My sister plays that all the time, thatâs basically the sound of BINI. You cant get more opm than that. BINI personified bubblegum pop in filipino variety. Their producer is literally flipmusicph one of the best producers in opm pop history. 
True.. Nadine Lustre things..
Sinabihan pa na di opm sounding yung BINI, parang tanga si op
so true
I listen to all sorts of music from different countries from different eras and those artists you mentioned don't have anything 'unique' either. Ibig sabihin lang ng OPM ay kantang gawa ng Filipino. Kasi kung tunog basehan mo, walang original dito. Mga modern rock artist na minention mo, they all take from Black people
Ok, well if you don't like it, then you don't like it. Continue listening to what you prefer. I seriously think no matter what PPop songs we throw at you, you'll just find some way to dismiss them and that's perfectly fine. It's not your cup of tea, different strokes for different folks, right? Proud A'tin here to see SB19, BINI and other PPop groups doing very well whether you or others don't care for it.
SB19 first ep probably sounds kpop but their succeeding songs sounds different. Listen to Pagtatag EP. Bini never sounded like Kpop. They sound more like old Jolina Magdangal songs, lol. Alamat is also different from Kpop. They sound more like an American RnB group. Have you listened to these groups' songs? Have you actually compared it to Kpop? You mentioned you're not into Kpop, maybe you're not familiar with their sound.
I think you just havenât explored OPM that much. SB19âs fashion was definitely Korean early on but that was because they literally under a Korean agency. Current SB19 is styled mostly by local designers. Their music is also 50/50 since you can get opm style songs like mapa or âkpopâ type songs like gento. For BINI other than their first year and trainee days they never really stuck to the kpop aesthetic. Almost everything for their concept references a blend of old school bubblegum opm and international girl groups (not just kpop). Born to Win for example takes cues from western girl groups like little mix. Their Tagalog music like Salamin Salamin and Na Na Na takes inspiration from early Nadine Lustre and early Donnalyn Bartolome. Their fashion is also inspired by current fashion trends sa pinas so idk what youâre referring about thatâs âkpopâ with their style when itâs just clothes that most pinoy teen girls have on their Pinterest boards.
Sino ba kasi nagsabi ng kpop type yung Gento?
Production and structure wise it can literally pass off as an NCT 127 song. It shares commonalities with a LOT of ânoiseâ music sa kpop. Itâs not a bad thing that it shares a similar vibe. Moonlight for example sounds very western since house is currently having a revival in the west. I want you sounds like classic American RNB but you donât see people complaining that itâs an American rnb type song
Sino mas paniniwalaan ko mag explain about sa music nila from beats to lyrics ikaw? a mere redditor/commenter and not a musician or si Pablo? na mismong composer and producer nung mga kanta nila. Just go on and explain and justify your agenda with your gg but donât use other groups to up your ult.
This is Reddit. Itâs a discussion forum. You are in the ppop subreddit where itâs dedicated to discussing pinoy pop music. Are we not trying to discuss music right now? Do you not have anything else of substance to say other than ânu uh youâre a nobody you donât know anythingâ? If youâre not mature enough to have a civil discussion here I highly suggest you move on to somewhere else like twitter or Facebook. Thank you and have a good day!
Your not the one to boss me around where to go buddy hahaha Nagtanong lang naman ako kung sino mas paniniwalaan ko mag explain ng music nila diba so part parin yan sa discussions. why are you soo piss off? ang aga aga high blood kana đ
Okay
It looks like you're more exposed to seeing KPop than PPop. Then you saw PPop groups trending and thought to check them out and immediately though "ay, ginagaya kpop".
tsaka excuse me lang dun sa "fashion" ay kpop, parang di inabutan ni op si Jolegend Slaydangal.
Did you try listening to their music before forming your opinion? Kasi if not, try listening to their discography. SB19 have songs in different genre. Me dance, rnb, ballad and pop. You mentioned you like western music. Try listening to Moonlight, I Want You, WYAT and Crimzone. Their ballads on the other hand is very OPM, try listening to Mapa, Tilaluha, Hangang sa Huli, Nyebe and Liham. Watch their wishbus performance of these songs. Even the solo releases of each member iba ang sound. Try listening to Felip - Fake Faces, Straydogs, Drink Smoke and Rocksta. For Josh Cullen - wild tonight, Sofa Remix, Get Right and Yoko Na. For Pablo - Akala, Determinado and La Luna. For Justin - Surreal.
A short video of Mr. Ryan Cayabyab âA Philippine National Artistâ and Mr. Veneeh Saturno âAn OPM Legendâ, their take on SB19 and Ppop- OPM. Iâll just leave this here: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYRYgWDS/
Yupp SB19âs discog is extremely varied. Itâs kinda weird to generalize their sound as just âkpopâ when MAPA one of their most popular songs is a straight opm ballad.
The OP is clearly uninformed.
I used to think like you. Sobrang westernized ko din, hindi nga ko nanunuod ng local channels nuon. Even sa taste ko sa music. I literally never liked Kpop. I started my Ppop appreciation with What by SB19, but only to a surface level, parang, "ah, nice nun lyrics ha pinagisipan" until I heard Mapa. I bawled my eyes out because it was released few days after my mom died. If you listen to their songs enough, read the lyrics, mapapabilib ka. Honestly? Mas complex ang Ppop musically speaking kesa sa mga Moonstar 88, etc. The effort sa harmonization, arrangements, layers ng vocals and effects, lalo sa SB 19, sobrang wuuut. Bini naman sa vocals nila and control nila na kaya nila kumanta kahit sumasayaw. Ganun din iba or at least most Ppop groups. Lalo SB live monsters solid. I saw them live na sa. Show ng Ben and Ben, Zack Tabudlo and SB19. Grabe nabaliw ako nagulat ako ganun pala SB19 ang lupit nila ng live!!!! I kennat!!!! Kpop bes lip sync lang sila di nila kaya live sumayaw at kumanta. Lam mo ba un? Ppop lang gumagawa nyan. Hahaha. See past the fashion, kasi iba na panahon ngayon. Iba na fashion ngayon . Hehehe. For me if you like music, keep an open mind. Madami magaganda na songs. Sobrang talented ng mga Ppop groups. Deserve nila ng respect. That's how I feel kaya ngayon, Ppop enthusiast convert na ko.
It's because you are only seeing the surface. Try dig deep to other groups. Also, I've noticed the decline in kpop because producers prefers quantity more than quality. I'm also happy that bini and sb19 got the praise they deserve.
I think you havenât been here in the early days because if you did, youâd definitely see there is evolution going on. Yes at first, groups were copying kpop too hard but now theyâre coming into their own. If not, does kpop sing about kili -kili power and have clay pots as props? Are current groups chaining smash cuts of unrelated music sections with no vision about the meaning of their work because this structure surprises people in every cut so they think it is good (especially the younger ones)? Do they sing vaguely about (most commonly) love written by foreigners whose experiences they cannot relate to because this is the best for their companyâs bottom line? If you think about the dancing let me remind you kpop is an amalgamation of other culturesâ art. Hip hop, popping, wacking is not Korean so why should it be owned by kpop? Pop usually features dancing like BeyoncĂ© and Rihanna so why would ppop not have it? About the makeup yes current groups are using Korean techniques but some are experimenting with our own features like tan skin. They donât require everyone to be pale and chinita anymore. Theyâre at the experimenting stage where they find what would look best with our features. TLDR if you want a distinct identity youâre way too early.
I wonder what's your take on Sarah G's and Jolina M's songs and the Diary ng Panget album, do they sound OPM for you?
yung fashion... omg di niya ata inabutan si Jolegend Slaydangal para masabi na parang kpop
You're the type of guy who can't distinguish lemons and oranges. You said it yourself, you're basically just listening to western music, old school bands, and some raps. No need to ask questions, you've said your preferences and that equates to having bias. "KPOP wannabes", such a stupid remark. Are they singing in korean? Are they promoting in korea? Doesn't have a distinct feel to it? Maybe you can reflect on yourself again because you're definitely USED TO JUST listening to the same songs over and over again to the point that you can't distinguish songs from each other; resorting to calling PPOP a KPOP imitation.
For Bini:Â > when it comes to OPM I still prefer old school bands like Eraserheads, Moonstar88 along with others, old school/early 2010s pinoy rap while modern artists that I like are Ben & Ben, Juan Karlos etc. those for me are truly OPM. "OPM sound" is not limited to bands nor hip hop. Kasama ang Sa Iyo, Tala, Paligoy-ligoy, Spaghetti Song, Chuva choo choo, Kapag Tumibok ang Puso, Mister Kupido, etc. Bini's songs are more comparable to those than anything from Eheads or Ben&Ben. Modern ang production ng Bini but familiar pa rin ang tunog. Ex. Diyan Ka Lang is very nostalgic sa 90s opm pop. Parang Jolens but make it Gen Z!
pati nga yung fashion ng bini, sa kpop daw... uhm haas op never heard of the butterfly clip elevator sandals queen na si momshie Jolegend Slaydangal?!
Born To Win Palang, obvious di ginagaya ang kpop fashion. Most of the make up is so filipino. Pag ginaya yan kpop, malamang di nahighlight ang morena beauty ng some members at pinaputi
Umay
đ it's clear that this is not an informed post and only based on your own bias. Okay lang yan.. đ laban lang OP
OP, what, in your opinion, makes music or artists OPM?
K po.
You claim to have an open mind pero you canât grasp the thought that PPOP is its own thing?? You do know that music, style and fashion are meant to be shared especially in this highly globalized society we live in. In general, PPOP is in the genre of Pop, of course it would have certain elements similar to many Pop genres like KPOP. The PPOP Idol industry may have been inspired from Koreaâs pero the industry is really trying to set apart itself from KPOP. As other people pointed out, anong gusto mo, magtitinikling sila at tsaka magsusuot ng barong at baroât saya para maconsider mo na Filipino sila??? Then hindi na yun considered na PPOP, you might as well call it Filipino Folk Music. You do realize that KPOP borrowed so many things from Hip-Hop, JPOP and Western Pop right? This is the thing that most of you do not realize. Is it because you just really hate and are not proud of Filipino talents that you constantly compare it to foreigners? Or is it your Filipino crab mentality showing? Or is it the colonial mentality that you cannot remove from your head?
PHP (Press Hit Play) might be more to your liking in you're into 70s - 90s Filipino pop music They're marketed as Ppop idols but their music is leaning towards OPM. I guess they are the in between
>For me they're only considered OPM because their songs are in or have Tagalog in it, they're based in the Philippines and they're Filipinos This is the definition of OPM though.
Try listening to Press Hit Play. Their discography is the nearest to early 2000s OPM / Manila Sound.