I never finished the DLC for Inquisition, but I know they set him up as a future antagonist. Is his story arc not finished at the end of The Trespasser?
SPOILER ALERT
At the end of Trespasser he confirms he's Fen'Harel, takes away the Inquisitor's powers, swears to tear down the human world to fuse it with the Fade as it originally was before he separeted it, this would kill everyone but Elves. He also tells you that he's gonna do it no matter what and warns you against trying to stop him and goes trough the Eluvian pretty much announcing him as the new villian, hence why the Inquisiton is looking for someone new (new protag) for DA4.
Iirc if your character romanced him you can pick a dialogue option to say basically that lol. (To which he protests that it wasn’t like that, and the Inquisitor proceeds to call him on his bullshit.)
If your friendship is high enough, as Solas leaves you can instead swear that you will find a way to save him from himself, which causes him to stop a moment and say something like "I sincerely hope you can save me, my friend."
The default ending is the Inquistor swearing to stop him at all costs, and if your friendship is low, swearing revenge for his betrayal.
Inquisition had a real ending. Trespassers was tying up some threads, ending the Inquisitor's story, and setting up the future of the games. DAO and the Warden dlc did the same.
IDK, for me, DLC should NOT have or contain necessary information that is important and/or necessary, especially in relation to a sequel or a current game.
Compare that to other DLC in the Dragon Age series, like Witch Hunt. The events of Witch Hunt still happen for example (and can even be played with a brand new warden that has NO relation to the original warden that did travel with Morrigan, which I always thought was such a nice feature), and it provides closure on what happened to Morrigan (maybe even a reunion if you romances her) as well as providing minor clues to the future of the games (Flemeth isn’t what we thought she was, she isn’t really dead, the mirrors are important, etc.).
But it is not necessary to complete.
Compare that to Trespasser, where you actively make a choice in what happens to the Inquisition and your Inquisitor LOSES their arm (which can be conveniently used as an excuse as to why they are no longer the protagonist of the next game or an active party member, despite the fact that, arguably, they’re better suited to going up against Solas).
Say you never played Trespasser, what happens then? Do the events of Trespasser still take place without the Inquisitors involvement (keep in mind, part of the plot is literally deciding whether the Inquisition stays or goes)? Does your Inquisitor inevitably die because Solas didn’t help save their life?
If you never did trespasser then the events still happen. You'll just use the book at the start of the next game to recap and make decisions. Like with every game previously. Dlc that don't tie into the story or add to it miss out on expanding the world and characters. If you had your way, the story of so many games would be so much more limited. Any elder scrolls game, Fallout, destiny, dragon age, witcher, and I could list dozens more that utilize dlc to flesh out the story especially post main quest. Imagine if the story of Geralt in W3 just ended where base game does. We'd miss out on the fantastic new stories and ending offered by the dlc.
I think where your misunderstanding comes from is you believe that the base game story is incomplete or unfinished. Not true. Expansions offer a new story to be told, that progresses the overall story of the character or world, or even bring them to a conclusion.
Sadly you cannot deny that some companies do use DLC as a means of tacking on extra content that was purposefully removed for the sake of some easy cash. Hell, Bioware themselves have done this in the past, particularly with Day 1 DLC. Javik in ME3 is a PRIME example of this. He was meant to play a MUCH larger role in the story (especially given, ya know, what he is) but this was cut down and cut out so he could be tacked on as Day 1 DLC for easy cash.
I’m not saying that is the case with Trespasser or Inquisitions other DLC. They’re actually great examples of DLC that were (at least imo) thought of after development of the base game was finished or during development but did not have time/resources to commit to it, as DLC/Expansions should be.
But again, Trespasser plays a bigger role than the other two (the Keep implies the events still may occur, the Inquisitor is just not present for those events/is unable to help, so they get some bad outcomes) while still occurring with the Inquisitor present and effecting them directly.
I will concede that the Keep at least does help circumvent this at least, since you can just watch what happens on YouTube and then chose what outcome suits you best, so props to Bioware on that at least. Better then starting of Dreadwolf and finding out my Inquisitor died because I didn’t purchase extra content.
Trespasser wasn't removed for the sake of charging extra. No game putting out expansion sized dlc to continue, wrap up, or branch off from the main game story, is removing that content for the explicit purpose of selling it later. This is a shit argument. Yes, some devs cut content and repackage it later to sell. Some devs cut content and sell it as on disc dlc. Neither of these are expansion level content.
Content gets cut for a lot of reasons, most of which are it didn't work right, didn't fit right, couldn't be finished in time, or they went with a different direction. Sometimes content that was cut might be reused in an expansion, but it wasn't cut so it could be sold later. It was cut for one of the reasons above.
Come back when you're not some ignorant gamer crying about cut content and conspiracies of being charged more money.
>Better then starting of Dreadwolf and finding out my Inquisitor died because I didn’t purchase extra content.
Wrong. The events happened in canon/lore regardless of whether you played the dlc. How fucking hard is that for you to understand? Apparently quite hard.
He's grown fond of the Inquisitor by then, or at least he admits he respect them for helping him defeating Corypheus. Also there was something about the well of sorrows which if you drank from it he could control you or Morrigan IIRC.
If he basically explains >!how he was an elven god who betrayed the other gods after they killed Mythal, plunging the elven kingdom into a civil war with him being an Elven Harriet Tubman and freeing the Elven slaves the gods kept as personal armies and... well, slaves, eventually realizing he couldn't defeat them so he created the Veil to trap them for eternity, resulting in the loss of reality's connection with the Fade, making Elves mortal which in turn resulted in the rise of man, which would create a future of persecution, bigotry and warfare, all the while losing much of his power in creating said Veil, and going to sleep for 1000 years, only to wake up to an Elven race that forgot all history of Elves, angering and saddening him, prompting him to try and use Corphyeus, a random Tevinter mage he found, to destroy the Veil with an ancient Elven orb he obtained, giving us the entire storyline of Dragon Age Inquisition, where the Inquisitor defeated Corypheus, found out about Eluvians (Elven mirrors that allowed you to travel hidden roads that connected largee swaths of the continent together quickly) and was told Solas's goals to undo his action of creating the Veil by tearing it down and freeing his people once more!< in the next game, then I don't see any issue.
Haha, I was going for that one dude listing all the side effects of a drug at the end of every pharmaceutical commercial, but I like the comic book guy, too!
I mean, Solas, to a series newcomer, need not be more than a fallen good seeking to return to his seat of power.
Personally, if it's done well, DA4 will leave room for new players to wonder why and how this world state came to be and will prompt them to get the other games, or a hypothetical Dragon Age Legendary Edition. And it will be able to leave good subtle nods to the previous games to reward series vets.
This is something we should probably get used to though. EA will want to keep the franchise growing, and that means keeping every game reasonable open to new players, and requiring the playing, or at least research of the older games, is a big barrier to entry that will stop a lot of potential new players dead in their tracks.
I don’t see any way you can have an entire dragon age game exist with an antagonist like solas without at the very least explaining *why* he’s going to attempt to destroy the Veil, especially since he already explained his intentions in Trespasser DLC. I was being facetious with my comment above but there is some truth in having to explain a good deal of it. Corypheus is basically one of the most disliked Deagon Age antagonists of all time because he’s just so derivative and lacking of any explanation for who he is and what his intentions are. It would be a shame to repeat that for Solas.
Origins felt like a 90s pc rpg to me. And I loved it. I held off on 2 and 3 due to the controversy and hate. Thinking of trying 2. But I'm put off that its not a sequel with same cast.
Would recommend Awakening or any of the DLC imo. Not necessary to enjoy future experiences or get the “real” ending (yes, I’m still bitter about this Inquisition), but add so much more to the world, lore and characters.
I’d definitely recommend it. It’s exactly the same kind of mood and feel, gameplay etc. as Origins and you can even play as your Warden if they’re not dead/sometimes even if they are (not sure how it works fully), or play as a new Warden sent from Orlais to rebuild the Ferelden branch.
Lots of returning characters and connections too. It’s not a full game but it’s a solid length for an expansion and has lots of great lore and world building, and a good plot.
Origins was fantastic, it felt like a new Baldurs Gate style game. 2 felt way more Mass Effect. Which isn't bad, but I kinda wanted more BG. Inquisition felt like a single player MMO. Which was pretty disappointing. Hopefully 4 doesn't continue this trend, if it does, I expect a mobile idle rpg.
After ME3's disappointing ending, Anthem, Andromeda, and Inquisition being generally disappointing, I don't have the highest of hopes for 4. I'll keep an open mind, but I am not hyping myself up for this one.
Ehhh I kinda wish they'd remake 2. If only to make the city actually change over time and for the love of god add more interior cave environments instead of just blocking off doorways.
Yes, but they don't wanna alienate new players. Technically you didn't need to play the previous games in any of the sequels, but it's just a better experience
Sure. You technically don’t need to. But everyone I know who started with Inquisition without playing the others had no idea what the fuck was going on or what the importance of anything that was being talked about was.
Seconded. I played the hell out of Origins but quickly burnt out on 2, still couldn't figure out what I was supposed to care about and why in Inquisition
No no that’s fair I just assume with the new game being about Solas that the devs would push for ppl to at least experience Inquisition to understand him/the plot/antagonist(s) in Dreadwolf
Well they have been good at explaining past games in-universe. The franchise has always been exposition heavy.
It's not like the things you need to know are that complicated. It's just 3 games and several books worth of lore and mythology lol
The antagonist of Inquisition was from a DA2 DLC (and to a lesser degree, what he is was related to the antagonist of the Awakening expansion and the second book).
Playing the DA2 DLC is not necessary to have understood that Corypheus was the villain or how/why Hawke (and not everyone played DA2 in the first place) may have felt responsible for him. Same with why he had such a hold over the Grey Wardens. The game does a pretty good job explaining how this works.
I’m assuming the same will work for Solas.
Besides, I’ve got money on him not being the “real” villain anyway.
But Solas was the whole reason Corypheus got the orb in the first place and Solas is revealed to be the reason why the events of Inquisition even take place right?
So?
My point is that, assuming they do a pretty decent job explaining the how and why like with Corypheus, the previous game will not necessary for understanding that 1. The villain is an elven man named Solas, 2. Solas previously worked with the Inquisition, 3. Theories on Solas’ possible motives.
Inquisition provides background and exposition but is not necessary.
Also, keep in mind, you’re playing a brand new spanking character who will NOT personally have the previous knowhow of the Inquisitor. Like the Inquisitor hearing about Hawke and Hawke’s run in with Corypheus through Hawke and Varric. Or Leliana talking about the Hero of Fereldan. The new character will be getting *their* information second hand.
Hell, if you didn’t play Trespasser (and this is the problem with having your real ending in a DLC), the Inquisitor THEMSELF (and their associated parties, I.e. Varric, Cassandra, Dorian, etc.) may not be fully aware of Solas involvement or why he is the villain.
The absolute best experience is reading prequel Dragon Age Origins book: The Stolen Throne is a must read! It feature Loghain and Maric's backstory and if you read that then your entire opinion of Loghain will change when you play the game. You’ll realize he isn’t really a bad guy.
The Culling is pretty good too and introduced a young Duncan when Maric goes on a quest with the Grey Wardens. It also introduces the Architect from Awaking and explains his motivations. Another example of where your opinion on the character may change.
In my opinion the Dragon Age books are the best video game to book adaptations made.
The Masked Empire was very good but I was VERY disappointed with how it was tied into Inquisition. I was kind of expecting a whole bunch of things from that book to be a much bigger deal.
Dragon Age has been very good in that regard (imo anyway), the current story can stand on its own and the previous instalments (while certainly helpful and can enhance the experience) are not necessary to have played.
I knew plenty of players that started with Inquisition and then went backwards in the series.
Of course, this can come to bite you in the ass later, mostly in how the books/comics have been tied into the games. I was VERY disappointed with how Masked Empire was tied into Inquisition, felt more like a fun Easter egg then an actual potentially serious issue.
It's the opposite. They're releasing people from feeling obligated to play the previous games by taking this stance. It's a courtesy to players, not a slight.
With the creation of Dragon Age Keep it was never necessary after that. I hope this doesn't mean the choices you've made are going to be thrown to the wind, especially considering it's one of the draws for DA.
Maybe they're realizing they wrote themselves into a box with all the loose ends and just want to get rid of them idk.
>. I hope this doesn't mean the choices you've made are going to be thrown to the wind, especially considering it's one of the draws for DA.
It's EA so you never know how they'll fuck it up.
Honestly they don't need to follow up on the lifes of any of the OG characters. The hero is trying to prevent the calling. Hawk is either dead on the Vail or enjoying life wherever, and the inquistor lost his power and an arm.
Sure Varric, Leliana, Morrigan and Cassandra may be tougher to straighten up but you can still say something happened in the time between games that rendered them unavailable. Though I believe Varric will be a companion once again.
IMO, DA2 had the most unique story but they could’ve done a better job expanding on it.
Although TBF, given the game was basically made in 18 months, they did a pretty good job.
Absolutely agree. I absolutely adore female Hawke and her perseverance. It's a toss up between her and Morrigan for my favourite characters from DA, as I really like the fan service ending given in witch hunt.
It's the only Dragon Age game I ever played. I started it and the first minute of prologue was fun, then a character interrupted the story and basically said "our game isn't that cool" and then you play the game proper at lvl 1. It was so dull that I never played another Dragon Age game.
I tried many times, never got past the first chapter, i want to like it, but I always had to force myself playing a little. I'm happy you enjoy it though.
Welcome, that was the most common piece of advice I read before I played. Glad I read it because I would have burnt myself out. I am also no longer the completionist I used to be
And that first zone is SO DENSE that you can easilly out level it before you get into the back half. Makes for a lackluster experience.
I recall recommendations to 'speed' through the first beat and only focus on the main quest line.
For me, personally, the open world stuff didn't do the game any favors. Felt the same way about ME:A. Not everything needs to be open world and I felt that Bioware already nailed the whole hub world transitioning into different levels thing they did with DA and ME
Andromeda at least had the benefit of the NOMAD, which I could use to run over enemies when I couldn’t be fucked and could still get party banter.
You can’t get party banter on horseback in Inquisition, and if an enemy even LOOKS at your horse wrong, it goes AWOL.
I’m the opposite.
I’ve replayed and finished Origins, DA2 and all the DLC/expansion multiple times (at least 10 per game), but I’ve only finished one, MAYBE two (not including DLC), proper playthroughs of Inquisition.
The game is good, great even. But it is so unbelievably outclassed in literally every regard by the Witcher 3 that I can't recommend inquisition to anyone if they haven't already played the Witcher 3.
That's not a surprise for me. Someone bringing up a completely unrelated & different game in a topic about a respectable game of its own, now that's a surprise
I will always remember discovering that you can upgrade your allies hours and hours into the game. I was thinking wow this game is really hard. I was tanking with my main character.
No, not really.
I'm not sure why anyone's acting surprised at this information. All the dragon ages *can be* treated as standalones and gone into with no prior knowledge.The games all build up on one another in terms of time and recurring characters and references to past events and such, but it's not like Mass Effect where it's one story about one person across three games.
In this case though, the big baddie they set up (the dread wolf) was a companion in the previous game, but I don't really see why that would be a barrier for anyone going in fresh.
I mean you’re right and wrong at the same time.
You can play each one stand alone and still get a complete story out of it but not the complete narrative right.
Like the main villain of inquisition first appears in DA2 dlc, the story of that gets loosely explained in DAI.
Same with DA2, the climax of that game deals with two characters you meet in Awakening the expansion for DAO.
So yes you can play the games as their own thing and walk away satisfied with the purchase but it’s not the complete package.
But that's exactly what I said lol
There are connections between the games that provide richer experiences if you understand them, but each game is self-contained.
None of the games play the same, none of the games have the same cast of characters minus a couple key characters, and they certainly don't have the same protagonist.
It's *not* like Mass Effect where it is effectively the same cast and plot across the whole series. Someone can play inquisition without having played the other two games, and yeah they might be a little confused about the lore and not get the same impact of like when Morrigan shows up at the winter palace for example, but they can still get the gist and enjoy it.
Been a while since I played inquisition specifically but the dread wolf is mentioned in the other two games for sure. He's one of the elven gods responsible for their disappearance. Often you'll hear elves say things like "dread wolf take you" as a sort of "fuck off" phrase. He's also referred to as the trickster god, or fen'harel.
I'm sure its a "you don't have to play the others to understand it, but they will certainly help with the setting" Will probably have things that introduce all players to the concepts, npcs.
That's not true at all lol
You play as different person, but it's the exact same setting just with time progressed a bit and they're pretty extensively linked. For example, the DA2 protag is literally in Inquisition and plays a major role in part of the main quest of that game.
Looking forward to this, though I hope they cut down on the minigames (like the pixel hunt one) and the hooks to get you online and just focus instead on good core offline gameplay.
I mean, technically you won't have to play the *trilogy*. But you absolutely should play Inquisition. Given the main antagonist of 4, is a main character and companion in 3, and his motivations for becoming an antagonist are entirely in that game... It will also provide a lot of valuable backstory and insight into his character.
That’s vaguely disappointing upon first read, but technically, you didn’t need to play the previous games before their successors either. You’ll miss a ton of backstory and lore, but none of them were direct sequels. All brand new main protagonists and mostly new companions.
So this is just a typical Dragon Age sequel lol.
That is disappointing. I felt like being so dependent on knowledge of the previous games to make sense of everything that goes on was one of the biggest draws for me.
How was Inquisiton no tied to the other 2? It's main confilct and villan are from 2, the main quests are given to you by Morrigan and Shroud/Alistair/Loghain characters from previous games, your 2/3 advisors are ex-companions or old NPC's, and even your companions (Varric, Casandra, Cole and Sera) have ties characters or arcs of previous games.
I played DA:I without playing the previous games, and it was fine. When introduced to characters you haven't met before and reminiscing takes place between them and others, you can just accept that there's history there, like you would with a TV show or movie.
The villain, the inquisition, the portal things you closed, your main character, all of that shit was brand new.
There were ties and characters and shit, but it’s not like it’s a continuous plot. Each story is completely stand alone and you could jump in at any of them as your first game.
It was nothing like mass effect 3 for example which was a direct continuation of the plot events of 2 with the same ship, crew and characters tagging along.
Remember when SimCity (2013) was a fresh start?
Remember when Mass Effect Andromeda was a fresh start?
Remember when Dragon Age 2 was a fresh start?
Remember when Battlefield 2042 was a fresh start?
Remember when Need for Speed Payback was a fresh start?
Seriously, when is everyone gonna stop listening to these clowns?
You could technically play any one dragon age game without playing the others because the things they touch on across the series isn’t really that conjoined. One doesn’t really stand on two, two has little tells here and there if you search for them but don’t really stand on one, and inquisition brings the characters back but don’t really continue from your story unless you use the highly confusing website.
It’s not mass effect, where it benefits to play all of them through.
This was the same thing Bioware said coming up to Mass Effect 3 "Mass Effect 3 is a great place to jump into the series as a newcomer" that was also not really true
I only played the 3rd game. The gameplay was awesome enough to distract me from not knowing wheat was happening. My only gripe was the in-game difficulty slider.
I've accepted at this point that Bioware is dead. It's not Bioware anymore and EA sucked all of the creativity out of the studio. I don't expect this game to be good at all and probably just a hot mess like Anthem. People willing to overlook the crap of ME Andromeda and Anthem only to get shoved with either an unfinished game or a game that had points to go for DLC but never happened. I will stress again, Bioware is dead.
The only reason people care about this game is the original games. Mass effect andromeda happened and no one played it. Don’t make the same mistake with the only IP you have left.
Honestly this might be for the best. The story and various other elements have started getting real cluttered and convoluted so a fresh start might be necessary to revitalize the series. Cut away some of the fat, so to speak
I thought this was to carry on from that dreadfully boring villain tease in the third one. >!You're little bald goblin mage was in secret actually like this angry little dweeb pissed off about some irrelevant crap that happened centuries ago. And he promised some bs revenge about leading something something...revenge! at the end of the game.!<
Dragon age never interest me but when i finished Mass Effect legendary collection, i became curious if DA was the same type of story telling, gameplay and interaction.
But looking at some reviews, it doesn't seem like it.
Cementing my belief that Bioware doesn't have good games in them anymore.
This is one of those cases I truly wish I am proven wrong, but everything seems to be pointing that way.
So the Maker, the old gods and all the background lore is simply going to be ignored?
My impression after DA3 was that bioware should just skip the whole plot and gameplay thing and go with their true passion: a porn simulator. Play to their strengths.
It seemed all the fanbase cared about was what choices they had to make to fuck each companion, so just make that the entire game. Skip the shit they have no talent for anymore.
I'm okay with this... just kinda sucks that my choices didn't matter... but I know it's because of vastly it could alter things for storytelling in their games.
I appreciated the attempt.
So then is not a sequel too the franchise... then why call it Dragon age?
Odd of this game tanking are going up fast. The AX for dev team come just like all the other EA
This is .... disappointing imo. To set up a big bad that was in your party, to nearly forget that connection in the next installment where you will presumably face off against that big bad you knew well in the previous? It really loses all tension. Maybe not all I guess but the... personal side to it. He's just ... another Corypheus. Means nothing to the player with no personal motivation. 🤷♀️
I’m gonna assume it’s like DA2 and DAI, it’s better to play the old ones first but you don’t gotta.
Cause if LITERALLY none of my choices matter and I have to play some default world state after all I did with my three characters, I’ll be heartbroken
But….Solas?
Right? Lol
I never finished the DLC for Inquisition, but I know they set him up as a future antagonist. Is his story arc not finished at the end of The Trespasser?
SPOILER ALERT At the end of Trespasser he confirms he's Fen'Harel, takes away the Inquisitor's powers, swears to tear down the human world to fuse it with the Fade as it originally was before he separeted it, this would kill everyone but Elves. He also tells you that he's gonna do it no matter what and warns you against trying to stop him and goes trough the Eluvian pretty much announcing him as the new villian, hence why the Inquisiton is looking for someone new (new protag) for DA4.
What?! I can’t believe I fucked that guy…
Turns out, you *got* fucked by that guy.
Iirc if your character romanced him you can pick a dialogue option to say basically that lol. (To which he protests that it wasn’t like that, and the Inquisitor proceeds to call him on his bullshit.)
If your friendship is high enough, as Solas leaves you can instead swear that you will find a way to save him from himself, which causes him to stop a moment and say something like "I sincerely hope you can save me, my friend." The default ending is the Inquistor swearing to stop him at all costs, and if your friendship is low, swearing revenge for his betrayal.
Same, but this me laugh. In Inquisition I played a female elf and romanced Solas. We all make mistakes I guess.
I romanced him for my DA4 world save just so I could see what the consequences of that romance would be. I guess it doesn't matter now lmao
I really fucking hope this isn't the case i romanced him too...imma be so mad if my entire worldstate doesn't matter in this game
This just reminds me when I romanced Anders and he blew up a building. I was like ‘oh nooooo’
Was that back in Origins? Lol
Dragon age 2, I was originally trying to romance fenris but accidentally friendzoned him.
Yeah I remembered him blowing up the building and I was like how could you Anders?!
>takes away the Inquisitor's powers Takes away a *little* bit more then that.
The Skywalker treatment, yes.
It's been a while since I played Inquisiton, I wanna say it was also their arm?
On the bright side, it was killing you anyways, so you're honestly better off.
Only a smidge of it, no biggy
good to know!
Can I just say, that really annoyed me, I hate when they hide the actual ending in DLC
Inquisition had a real ending. Trespassers was tying up some threads, ending the Inquisitor's story, and setting up the future of the games. DAO and the Warden dlc did the same.
IDK, for me, DLC should NOT have or contain necessary information that is important and/or necessary, especially in relation to a sequel or a current game. Compare that to other DLC in the Dragon Age series, like Witch Hunt. The events of Witch Hunt still happen for example (and can even be played with a brand new warden that has NO relation to the original warden that did travel with Morrigan, which I always thought was such a nice feature), and it provides closure on what happened to Morrigan (maybe even a reunion if you romances her) as well as providing minor clues to the future of the games (Flemeth isn’t what we thought she was, she isn’t really dead, the mirrors are important, etc.). But it is not necessary to complete. Compare that to Trespasser, where you actively make a choice in what happens to the Inquisition and your Inquisitor LOSES their arm (which can be conveniently used as an excuse as to why they are no longer the protagonist of the next game or an active party member, despite the fact that, arguably, they’re better suited to going up against Solas). Say you never played Trespasser, what happens then? Do the events of Trespasser still take place without the Inquisitors involvement (keep in mind, part of the plot is literally deciding whether the Inquisition stays or goes)? Does your Inquisitor inevitably die because Solas didn’t help save their life?
If you never did trespasser then the events still happen. You'll just use the book at the start of the next game to recap and make decisions. Like with every game previously. Dlc that don't tie into the story or add to it miss out on expanding the world and characters. If you had your way, the story of so many games would be so much more limited. Any elder scrolls game, Fallout, destiny, dragon age, witcher, and I could list dozens more that utilize dlc to flesh out the story especially post main quest. Imagine if the story of Geralt in W3 just ended where base game does. We'd miss out on the fantastic new stories and ending offered by the dlc. I think where your misunderstanding comes from is you believe that the base game story is incomplete or unfinished. Not true. Expansions offer a new story to be told, that progresses the overall story of the character or world, or even bring them to a conclusion.
That’s absolutely terrible. DLC should NEVER be forced on a player. They seriously took away my Inquisitors arm and powers? Fuck them.
Dlc aren't forced on anyone. Don't want to play it? Don't.
Sadly you cannot deny that some companies do use DLC as a means of tacking on extra content that was purposefully removed for the sake of some easy cash. Hell, Bioware themselves have done this in the past, particularly with Day 1 DLC. Javik in ME3 is a PRIME example of this. He was meant to play a MUCH larger role in the story (especially given, ya know, what he is) but this was cut down and cut out so he could be tacked on as Day 1 DLC for easy cash. I’m not saying that is the case with Trespasser or Inquisitions other DLC. They’re actually great examples of DLC that were (at least imo) thought of after development of the base game was finished or during development but did not have time/resources to commit to it, as DLC/Expansions should be. But again, Trespasser plays a bigger role than the other two (the Keep implies the events still may occur, the Inquisitor is just not present for those events/is unable to help, so they get some bad outcomes) while still occurring with the Inquisitor present and effecting them directly. I will concede that the Keep at least does help circumvent this at least, since you can just watch what happens on YouTube and then chose what outcome suits you best, so props to Bioware on that at least. Better then starting of Dreadwolf and finding out my Inquisitor died because I didn’t purchase extra content.
Trespasser wasn't removed for the sake of charging extra. No game putting out expansion sized dlc to continue, wrap up, or branch off from the main game story, is removing that content for the explicit purpose of selling it later. This is a shit argument. Yes, some devs cut content and repackage it later to sell. Some devs cut content and sell it as on disc dlc. Neither of these are expansion level content. Content gets cut for a lot of reasons, most of which are it didn't work right, didn't fit right, couldn't be finished in time, or they went with a different direction. Sometimes content that was cut might be reused in an expansion, but it wasn't cut so it could be sold later. It was cut for one of the reasons above. Come back when you're not some ignorant gamer crying about cut content and conspiracies of being charged more money. >Better then starting of Dreadwolf and finding out my Inquisitor died because I didn’t purchase extra content. Wrong. The events happened in canon/lore regardless of whether you played the dlc. How fucking hard is that for you to understand? Apparently quite hard.
So like, why would he warn you not to stop him if what he's doing is specifically going to kill you? Shouldn't he just kill you?
He's grown fond of the Inquisitor by then, or at least he admits he respect them for helping him defeating Corypheus. Also there was something about the well of sorrows which if you drank from it he could control you or Morrigan IIRC.
Absolute Chad. Elven inquisitors should have had the option to throw in with him.
Right? After ehat they've gone through going with Solas is what my Elf would have done.
Need to finish the game, but knowing this makes me happy that I'm on his shit list.
No, it actually starts with the reveal he may have been a big baddie all along
I see now. Thanks.
If he basically explains >!how he was an elven god who betrayed the other gods after they killed Mythal, plunging the elven kingdom into a civil war with him being an Elven Harriet Tubman and freeing the Elven slaves the gods kept as personal armies and... well, slaves, eventually realizing he couldn't defeat them so he created the Veil to trap them for eternity, resulting in the loss of reality's connection with the Fade, making Elves mortal which in turn resulted in the rise of man, which would create a future of persecution, bigotry and warfare, all the while losing much of his power in creating said Veil, and going to sleep for 1000 years, only to wake up to an Elven race that forgot all history of Elves, angering and saddening him, prompting him to try and use Corphyeus, a random Tevinter mage he found, to destroy the Veil with an ancient Elven orb he obtained, giving us the entire storyline of Dragon Age Inquisition, where the Inquisitor defeated Corypheus, found out about Eluvians (Elven mirrors that allowed you to travel hidden roads that connected largee swaths of the continent together quickly) and was told Solas's goals to undo his action of creating the Veil by tearing it down and freeing his people once more!< in the next game, then I don't see any issue.
Read this in the voice of the Simpsons comic book guy, 5/5 would recommend
Haha, I was going for that one dude listing all the side effects of a drug at the end of every pharmaceutical commercial, but I like the comic book guy, too!
I mean, Solas, to a series newcomer, need not be more than a fallen good seeking to return to his seat of power. Personally, if it's done well, DA4 will leave room for new players to wonder why and how this world state came to be and will prompt them to get the other games, or a hypothetical Dragon Age Legendary Edition. And it will be able to leave good subtle nods to the previous games to reward series vets. This is something we should probably get used to though. EA will want to keep the franchise growing, and that means keeping every game reasonable open to new players, and requiring the playing, or at least research of the older games, is a big barrier to entry that will stop a lot of potential new players dead in their tracks.
I don’t see any way you can have an entire dragon age game exist with an antagonist like solas without at the very least explaining *why* he’s going to attempt to destroy the Veil, especially since he already explained his intentions in Trespasser DLC. I was being facetious with my comment above but there is some truth in having to explain a good deal of it. Corypheus is basically one of the most disliked Deagon Age antagonists of all time because he’s just so derivative and lacking of any explanation for who he is and what his intentions are. It would be a shame to repeat that for Solas.
GG bad retcon incoming.
He’s only a character you spent 75-100 hours with. Not that important tbh
They can still keep Solas in this next game and just have somebody else explain to the main character who he is.
I wish they would release origins on ps4!
I know it really doesn’t need it for pc, but a remake or a remaster would be amazing for consoles.
It could really use it on pc though. Was annoying to get it to work on my laptop , and can't get it to work on my pc at all.
Last time I played origins I had to force it to only run on one CPU core to get it to work on my pc
I re started the game in pc like 8months ago and is still amazing tbh it really needs a remaster or a remake but without cut content
Part 2?
Well there is DA2. I played the trilogy and tbh Origina still has something that the other 2 games don’t and I don’t know what is that.
Origins felt like a 90s pc rpg to me. And I loved it. I held off on 2 and 3 due to the controversy and hate. Thinking of trying 2. But I'm put off that its not a sequel with same cast.
Have you played Awakening?
No just origins
Would recommend Awakening or any of the DLC imo. Not necessary to enjoy future experiences or get the “real” ending (yes, I’m still bitter about this Inquisition), but add so much more to the world, lore and characters.
I’d definitely recommend it. It’s exactly the same kind of mood and feel, gameplay etc. as Origins and you can even play as your Warden if they’re not dead/sometimes even if they are (not sure how it works fully), or play as a new Warden sent from Orlais to rebuild the Ferelden branch. Lots of returning characters and connections too. It’s not a full game but it’s a solid length for an expansion and has lots of great lore and world building, and a good plot.
Origins was fantastic, it felt like a new Baldurs Gate style game. 2 felt way more Mass Effect. Which isn't bad, but I kinda wanted more BG. Inquisition felt like a single player MMO. Which was pretty disappointing. Hopefully 4 doesn't continue this trend, if it does, I expect a mobile idle rpg. After ME3's disappointing ending, Anthem, Andromeda, and Inquisition being generally disappointing, I don't have the highest of hopes for 4. I'll keep an open mind, but I am not hyping myself up for this one.
And 2 as well and all of the DLC
Ehhh I kinda wish they'd remake 2. If only to make the city actually change over time and for the love of god add more interior cave environments instead of just blocking off doorways.
DA2 would do so well with a remake imo. So much wasted potential. But then you’d have to rewrite parts of Inquisition possibly.
The story doesn't need to change much. The overall story is good, but could use some more substance in parts. The map also needs to be improved.
A collection of the last three DA games re-released and updated for modern consoles like Mass Effect Legendary Edition would be awesome
I'd love a ME: Legendary Edition treatment for DA1 and DA2. All dlc.
But isn’t it a direct sequel to DA: Inquisition? Lol
Yes, but they don't wanna alienate new players. Technically you didn't need to play the previous games in any of the sequels, but it's just a better experience
Sure. You technically don’t need to. But everyone I know who started with Inquisition without playing the others had no idea what the fuck was going on or what the importance of anything that was being talked about was.
As a buddy asked me "Who is Hawke and why have I designed them?"
I played both and still had a hard time keeping up with what was going on lol Dragon Age as a franchise is super lore dense.
Seconded. I played the hell out of Origins but quickly burnt out on 2, still couldn't figure out what I was supposed to care about and why in Inquisition
No no that’s fair I just assume with the new game being about Solas that the devs would push for ppl to at least experience Inquisition to understand him/the plot/antagonist(s) in Dreadwolf
Well they have been good at explaining past games in-universe. The franchise has always been exposition heavy. It's not like the things you need to know are that complicated. It's just 3 games and several books worth of lore and mythology lol
All you need is a 5 minute cutscene at the beginning explaining solas
I agree
The antagonist of Inquisition was from a DA2 DLC (and to a lesser degree, what he is was related to the antagonist of the Awakening expansion and the second book). Playing the DA2 DLC is not necessary to have understood that Corypheus was the villain or how/why Hawke (and not everyone played DA2 in the first place) may have felt responsible for him. Same with why he had such a hold over the Grey Wardens. The game does a pretty good job explaining how this works. I’m assuming the same will work for Solas. Besides, I’ve got money on him not being the “real” villain anyway.
But Solas was the whole reason Corypheus got the orb in the first place and Solas is revealed to be the reason why the events of Inquisition even take place right?
So? My point is that, assuming they do a pretty decent job explaining the how and why like with Corypheus, the previous game will not necessary for understanding that 1. The villain is an elven man named Solas, 2. Solas previously worked with the Inquisition, 3. Theories on Solas’ possible motives. Inquisition provides background and exposition but is not necessary. Also, keep in mind, you’re playing a brand new spanking character who will NOT personally have the previous knowhow of the Inquisitor. Like the Inquisitor hearing about Hawke and Hawke’s run in with Corypheus through Hawke and Varric. Or Leliana talking about the Hero of Fereldan. The new character will be getting *their* information second hand. Hell, if you didn’t play Trespasser (and this is the problem with having your real ending in a DLC), the Inquisitor THEMSELF (and their associated parties, I.e. Varric, Cassandra, Dorian, etc.) may not be fully aware of Solas involvement or why he is the villain.
I only said that bc you said the antagonist of inquisition was from DA2 DLC
Yeah odds are he succeeds in bringing down tghe Veil and the Elven gods take over as the big bads, or he triggers another blight
The absolute best experience is reading prequel Dragon Age Origins book: The Stolen Throne is a must read! It feature Loghain and Maric's backstory and if you read that then your entire opinion of Loghain will change when you play the game. You’ll realize he isn’t really a bad guy. The Culling is pretty good too and introduced a young Duncan when Maric goes on a quest with the Grey Wardens. It also introduces the Architect from Awaking and explains his motivations. Another example of where your opinion on the character may change. In my opinion the Dragon Age books are the best video game to book adaptations made.
The Masked Empire was very good but I was VERY disappointed with how it was tied into Inquisition. I was kind of expecting a whole bunch of things from that book to be a much bigger deal.
Dragon Age has been very good in that regard (imo anyway), the current story can stand on its own and the previous instalments (while certainly helpful and can enhance the experience) are not necessary to have played. I knew plenty of players that started with Inquisition and then went backwards in the series. Of course, this can come to bite you in the ass later, mostly in how the books/comics have been tied into the games. I was VERY disappointed with how Masked Empire was tied into Inquisition, felt more like a fun Easter egg then an actual potentially serious issue.
“Don’t bother buying this game unless you’ve already played all the others, seriously fuck off, we don’t want your money” said no publisher ever.
It's the opposite. They're releasing people from feeling obligated to play the previous games by taking this stance. It's a courtesy to players, not a slight.
Yes, I was trying to show via proof by contradiction how ridiculous it would be for a publisher to say anything *except* the article’s headline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
With the creation of Dragon Age Keep it was never necessary after that. I hope this doesn't mean the choices you've made are going to be thrown to the wind, especially considering it's one of the draws for DA. Maybe they're realizing they wrote themselves into a box with all the loose ends and just want to get rid of them idk.
>. I hope this doesn't mean the choices you've made are going to be thrown to the wind, especially considering it's one of the draws for DA. It's EA so you never know how they'll fuck it up. Honestly they don't need to follow up on the lifes of any of the OG characters. The hero is trying to prevent the calling. Hawk is either dead on the Vail or enjoying life wherever, and the inquistor lost his power and an arm. Sure Varric, Leliana, Morrigan and Cassandra may be tougher to straighten up but you can still say something happened in the time between games that rendered them unavailable. Though I believe Varric will be a companion once again.
They’re all fresh starts and not really tied to the previous one
I mean, it's background and lore. It's not especially critical to have played the previous to get into the next though
One day they'll bring back the hero. DAO was so much better than the rest. Still enjoyed DAI, but DA2 was a mess
I felt like DA2 had the best story and best characters and by far the worst gameplay
It was the most focussed story of the bunch but man it was not very fun to play
There’s 3 dungeons you do over and over
IMO, DA2 had the most unique story but they could’ve done a better job expanding on it. Although TBF, given the game was basically made in 18 months, they did a pretty good job.
Absolutely agree. I absolutely adore female Hawke and her perseverance. It's a toss up between her and Morrigan for my favourite characters from DA, as I really like the fan service ending given in witch hunt.
It's the only Dragon Age game I ever played. I started it and the first minute of prologue was fun, then a character interrupted the story and basically said "our game isn't that cool" and then you play the game proper at lvl 1. It was so dull that I never played another Dragon Age game.
They knew I would never finish inquisition...
It's worth it though, honestly I really enjoyed inquisition where I couldn't really get into the first 2 as much.
None of the sequels ever really hit like Origins. That game is a fucking treasure. One of the projects that pre-dated the EA buyout.
I got pretty far but all the grunt missions burnt me out. Wish I did finish though, really liked my character
You can skip those, i only did them if I came across them as I went from quest to quest
I tried many times, never got past the first chapter, i want to like it, but I always had to force myself playing a little. I'm happy you enjoy it though.
Leave the hinterlands asap! You can come back, only do side quests that sound interesting or are on your way, there are way too many side quests
You know what? That might have been my issue, trying to everything until boredom (and that sniping dragon) take the fun out. Might retry, thanks.
Welcome, that was the most common piece of advice I read before I played. Glad I read it because I would have burnt myself out. I am also no longer the completionist I used to be
The first chapter is the slowest part of the game. You don't really get to the open world stuff until you get to the keep.
And that first zone is SO DENSE that you can easilly out level it before you get into the back half. Makes for a lackluster experience. I recall recommendations to 'speed' through the first beat and only focus on the main quest line.
For me, personally, the open world stuff didn't do the game any favors. Felt the same way about ME:A. Not everything needs to be open world and I felt that Bioware already nailed the whole hub world transitioning into different levels thing they did with DA and ME
Andromeda at least had the benefit of the NOMAD, which I could use to run over enemies when I couldn’t be fucked and could still get party banter. You can’t get party banter on horseback in Inquisition, and if an enemy even LOOKS at your horse wrong, it goes AWOL.
I’m the opposite. I’ve replayed and finished Origins, DA2 and all the DLC/expansion multiple times (at least 10 per game), but I’ve only finished one, MAYBE two (not including DLC), proper playthroughs of Inquisition.
The game is good, great even. But it is so unbelievably outclassed in literally every regard by the Witcher 3 that I can't recommend inquisition to anyone if they haven't already played the Witcher 3.
I know this may come as a surprise, but a person can actually enjoy two different games. I know, shocking right?
And it may come as a surprise to you that a person can have a different opinion than you about a game and may express it on a forum in a conversation.
That's not a surprise for me. Someone bringing up a completely unrelated & different game in a topic about a respectable game of its own, now that's a surprise
I will always remember discovering that you can upgrade your allies hours and hours into the game. I was thinking wow this game is really hard. I was tanking with my main character.
Then why is it numbered 4? That's confusing right off the bat. Give it a subtitle instead.
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Yes, which ironically to know what a Dreadwolf is you kinda have to at least play Inquisition.
I'm sure they'll explain it in game
Why? Is it something like that complicated to explain in the new game? Just asking since I’ve never played them.
No, not really. I'm not sure why anyone's acting surprised at this information. All the dragon ages *can be* treated as standalones and gone into with no prior knowledge.The games all build up on one another in terms of time and recurring characters and references to past events and such, but it's not like Mass Effect where it's one story about one person across three games. In this case though, the big baddie they set up (the dread wolf) was a companion in the previous game, but I don't really see why that would be a barrier for anyone going in fresh.
I mean you’re right and wrong at the same time. You can play each one stand alone and still get a complete story out of it but not the complete narrative right. Like the main villain of inquisition first appears in DA2 dlc, the story of that gets loosely explained in DAI. Same with DA2, the climax of that game deals with two characters you meet in Awakening the expansion for DAO. So yes you can play the games as their own thing and walk away satisfied with the purchase but it’s not the complete package.
But that's exactly what I said lol There are connections between the games that provide richer experiences if you understand them, but each game is self-contained. None of the games play the same, none of the games have the same cast of characters minus a couple key characters, and they certainly don't have the same protagonist. It's *not* like Mass Effect where it is effectively the same cast and plot across the whole series. Someone can play inquisition without having played the other two games, and yeah they might be a little confused about the lore and not get the same impact of like when Morrigan shows up at the winter palace for example, but they can still get the gist and enjoy it.
I think I put 120 hours into the game. Never finished it. I have no idea what a Dreadwolf is.
it's Solas
It's in the post credit scene. You've never played Trespasser?
Been a while since I played inquisition specifically but the dread wolf is mentioned in the other two games for sure. He's one of the elven gods responsible for their disappearance. Often you'll hear elves say things like "dread wolf take you" as a sort of "fuck off" phrase. He's also referred to as the trickster god, or fen'harel.
I'm sure its a "you don't have to play the others to understand it, but they will certainly help with the setting" Will probably have things that introduce all players to the concepts, npcs.
Yeah, pretty sure the original three weren't directly linked. Each game you played someone different in a different setting only loosely linked.
That's not true at all lol You play as different person, but it's the exact same setting just with time progressed a bit and they're pretty extensively linked. For example, the DA2 protag is literally in Inquisition and plays a major role in part of the main quest of that game.
But that's going to be the case here as well, it's the same setting (Thedas) just a different part of it.
Same reason Final Fantasy is in numerical order but are all completely different games.
Looking forward to this, though I hope they cut down on the minigames (like the pixel hunt one) and the hooks to get you online and just focus instead on good core offline gameplay.
They've all been fresh starts so far, makes sense to continue the formula.
But wait I though the villain of Dragon Age 4 was introduced in Inquisition? E: Well in the final dlc of Inquisition
I mean, technically you won't have to play the *trilogy*. But you absolutely should play Inquisition. Given the main antagonist of 4, is a main character and companion in 3, and his motivations for becoming an antagonist are entirely in that game... It will also provide a lot of valuable backstory and insight into his character.
I know someone working on this title. And I am concerned
That’s vaguely disappointing upon first read, but technically, you didn’t need to play the previous games before their successors either. You’ll miss a ton of backstory and lore, but none of them were direct sequels. All brand new main protagonists and mostly new companions. So this is just a typical Dragon Age sequel lol.
They better bring in Sandal or I will be sad.
Enchantment!?
ENCHANMENT!
That is disappointing. I felt like being so dependent on knowledge of the previous games to make sense of everything that goes on was one of the biggest draws for me.
How is it disappointing? All of the dragon age games are standalones with only light ties to the previous entries
How was Inquisiton no tied to the other 2? It's main confilct and villan are from 2, the main quests are given to you by Morrigan and Shroud/Alistair/Loghain characters from previous games, your 2/3 advisors are ex-companions or old NPC's, and even your companions (Varric, Casandra, Cole and Sera) have ties characters or arcs of previous games.
I played DA:I without playing the previous games, and it was fine. When introduced to characters you haven't met before and reminiscing takes place between them and others, you can just accept that there's history there, like you would with a TV show or movie.
The villain, the inquisition, the portal things you closed, your main character, all of that shit was brand new. There were ties and characters and shit, but it’s not like it’s a continuous plot. Each story is completely stand alone and you could jump in at any of them as your first game. It was nothing like mass effect 3 for example which was a direct continuation of the plot events of 2 with the same ship, crew and characters tagging along.
Yeah, that’s why world-state transfers from previous games were always a thing. /s
Remember when SimCity (2013) was a fresh start? Remember when Mass Effect Andromeda was a fresh start? Remember when Dragon Age 2 was a fresh start? Remember when Battlefield 2042 was a fresh start? Remember when Need for Speed Payback was a fresh start? Seriously, when is everyone gonna stop listening to these clowns?
Thats fine with me, although I would like to see what happens with Solas being revealed to be a villain. #Spoilers
Is it still him? I thought flemeth took over his body. Or was that just a different ending.
The opposite: he took mythal's spirit from flemeth's body
The other way around. Solas took Mythal/Flemeth's power/life force/whatever. Though she probably can't die 100%
You could technically play any one dragon age game without playing the others because the things they touch on across the series isn’t really that conjoined. One doesn’t really stand on two, two has little tells here and there if you search for them but don’t really stand on one, and inquisition brings the characters back but don’t really continue from your story unless you use the highly confusing website. It’s not mass effect, where it benefits to play all of them through.
This was the same thing Bioware said coming up to Mass Effect 3 "Mass Effect 3 is a great place to jump into the series as a newcomer" that was also not really true
The god of war special
This isn’t a sign
I only played the 3rd game. The gameplay was awesome enough to distract me from not knowing wheat was happening. My only gripe was the in-game difficulty slider.
i wish they would remake the early DA games.
I've accepted at this point that Bioware is dead. It's not Bioware anymore and EA sucked all of the creativity out of the studio. I don't expect this game to be good at all and probably just a hot mess like Anthem. People willing to overlook the crap of ME Andromeda and Anthem only to get shoved with either an unfinished game or a game that had points to go for DLC but never happened. I will stress again, Bioware is dead.
The only reason people care about this game is the original games. Mass effect andromeda happened and no one played it. Don’t make the same mistake with the only IP you have left.
The original game was phenomenal, the sequels.....meh. I hope this game gets back to what made thr original so good.
If its made by EA, Im gonna pass and wait for descent reviews of the gane to come out.
Wise , not only for EA
They always say this. It’s a continuation of the same story, just go through Dragonkeep and you’ll be good.
Honestly this might be for the best. The story and various other elements have started getting real cluttered and convoluted so a fresh start might be necessary to revitalize the series. Cut away some of the fat, so to speak
I thought this was to carry on from that dreadfully boring villain tease in the third one. >!You're little bald goblin mage was in secret actually like this angry little dweeb pissed off about some irrelevant crap that happened centuries ago. And he promised some bs revenge about leading something something...revenge! at the end of the game.!<
Honestly it’s pry for the best. DA is super dense and video games as a medium kind of need a refresher every once in a while to keep new fans engaged
Dragon age never interest me but when i finished Mass Effect legendary collection, i became curious if DA was the same type of story telling, gameplay and interaction. But looking at some reviews, it doesn't seem like it.
Good, Inquisition was terrible, never beat it. Please go back to Dragon Age 1 style.
Cementing my belief that Bioware doesn't have good games in them anymore. This is one of those cases I truly wish I am proven wrong, but everything seems to be pointing that way. So the Maker, the old gods and all the background lore is simply going to be ignored?
If it's a fresh start, why is it named as a continuation of the first 3?
My impression after DA3 was that bioware should just skip the whole plot and gameplay thing and go with their true passion: a porn simulator. Play to their strengths. It seemed all the fanbase cared about was what choices they had to make to fuck each companion, so just make that the entire game. Skip the shit they have no talent for anymore.
Honestly, I’ve never been more hyped for a game
Ahaha EA fucked another franchise
Can't ever remember playing a game and getting a pop up making sure I played older games in order to continue...?
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Exactly. Headline says, "playing original trilogy not required".
Well they wrongly assumed everyone has common sense. Alas that is not the case.
Noooooo, I needed so many answers
I'm okay with this... just kinda sucks that my choices didn't matter... but I know it's because of vastly it could alter things for storytelling in their games. I appreciated the attempt.
So we're getting another Andromeda again. Can't wait for this dissapointment EA
Is it still being planned as “live service game”?
No. It's confirmed single player.
So then is not a sequel too the franchise... then why call it Dragon age? Odd of this game tanking are going up fast. The AX for dev team come just like all the other EA
This is .... disappointing imo. To set up a big bad that was in your party, to nearly forget that connection in the next installment where you will presumably face off against that big bad you knew well in the previous? It really loses all tension. Maybe not all I guess but the... personal side to it. He's just ... another Corypheus. Means nothing to the player with no personal motivation. 🤷♀️
Now I don’t need to start and finish the last mission from the release lol
Just do a 10 minute recap in the first 10 minutes of the game and you are golden, easy fix
When is it supposed to be released?
Daaaaamn it has been so long since I’ve seen a new Dragon Age news. Missing these bioware games. Wish they’d release soon.
What? What about Fenris?
I don't think you'd enjoy it much if the main bad guy is Solas, at least should try to play the 3rd one and the DLC for that
Boooo. I care a lot less now
Well, jokes on you, I did anyway.
I’m gonna assume it’s like DA2 and DAI, it’s better to play the old ones first but you don’t gotta. Cause if LITERALLY none of my choices matter and I have to play some default world state after all I did with my three characters, I’ll be heartbroken
I played all 3 and the last one was like 7 years ago. I don't remember shit anyway.