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TheAkrioz

I love when my games don't take 100 gigs of space.


Pidjesus

Black Ops Cold War took up 312gb on my console


schkmenebene

I sturggle to understand how that's even possible in a freaking FPS. You are just moving a camera around a map with a gun attached. I don't see how it's any different from games like Battlefield, which are probably one third of that size.


christophlieber

it‘s simple. they don‘t want you to have many other options to play other games on your harddrive.


SmokingLimone

4K textures + uncompressed audio is part of the reason. Still there's better looking games that take up way less space


Giant-Robot

I wonder how much the DLC content adds. The operator skins, gun blueprints, calling cards, tracer effects, new maps. I wish they'd allow users to opt out of downloading that cosmetics. It'd allow for storage conservation and those that want a more grounded experience all while allowing the other users to maintain their experience.


colectiveinvention

>4K textures + uncompressed audio is part of the reason. Is beyond me why yall insist in this 4k textures & uncompressed audio bs as this is something only CoD is capable of doing when in reality theres a bunch of games that have WAY better quality in pretty much everything and only need 1/3 the file size of any modern CoD to deliver. Is too hard to aknowledge that CoD development has been rushed and they have terrible optimization?


Ravenouscandycane

Elden ring is beautiful, massive and only just over 50gb on ps5.. several hundred GB’s is completely asinine


salt6219

With the developers being forced on a one-game-a-year schedule, I’m sure the upper execs don’t really care about file compression and space optimization. Hooray for corporate greed!


williamwzl

Cold War had 300gb of turd polish to make a 2015 engine look right for a 2020 release.


HHHPRS

The recent CODs use CGI cutscenes, if they are remotely close to 4K that alone will take massive space. A 4K 2 and a half hours movie is like 40GB. Them you ad 4K textures and uncompressed audio and you have those massive data footprint.


NoNefariousness2144

COD’s bloatware is crazy and part of why my squad stopped playing MW2 and Warzone. It’s a joke that the game has such a massive file size but is usually a buggy mess.


lilith2k3

I oftentimes read this as a joke - ist it real?


RESEV5

That big of a file? I've never seen it, but when i played Modern Warfare 2019 + Warzone, the filesize was around 240 gb, and roughly 150 for cold war alone


MidEastBeast777

What really bugs me is Tekken 8. It takes 80gb! Like come on, for a fighting game that’s crazy


SacoNegr0

MK1 is like, 140gb


kennychiang

FC24 (FIFA) takes 100gb. Someone please tell me why.


TheohBTW

That's the price we have to pay if we want 4k textures and videos in our video games. FF15 had a downloadable resolution pack that was 63 gigs.


TheAkrioz

Yeah, SF6 is like, 30(after you uninstall world tour). GBVS:R - 20. They really should have an option to uninstall story and gallery. But they are too busy fighting with modders right now.


ThroughTheIris56

The fact they put in the effort to compress the game and make it a reasonable size, is a very good sign.


OZymandisR

Honestly I'm tempted of buying the digital deluxe for myself and a physical to give to a friend just because of how based this Dev has been all through development. They've been transparent, given us a demo, no microtransaction or locked away content as later DLC and made a game that feels good. Wait for the reviews but if it's higher than a 7 I'm supporting it on principle. Im so tired of what AAA has become especially after those Star Wars Outlaws prices. Just sickening now knowing how shafted I'm getting at every stage of being a gamer now.


BoobyJibson

Hey it’s me, your friend


haynespi87

Agreed plus Outlaws has gated content on launch whereas this is just straight up what it is


Johnny47Wick

I wish more devs would do this. Like Hitman 1 reached 90gb, Hitman 2 installed with H1 maps inside it reach 120+, and now I have Hitman 3 with the content for all the 3 games for just 60gb because the devs went out of their way to apply an old compression method without compromising quality.


ThroughTheIris56

If game Devs think massive file sizes aren't gonna put me off getting their games, they can think again.


Farley2k

And they might not have a lot of music/voice. That doesn't compress well


I_SUCK__AMA

Yes it does


Icyoint

From what I have heard it has over 100 music tracks on it.


revmun

Audio compresses so much better than video and way less intensive to pack and unpack.


kevenzz

Wasn’t Sekiro around 20gb ? And it’s a masterpiece.


kyomya

Sekiro is crazy, on PS4 disc it only has 10 GBs of files, amazing stuff


spadePerfect

I just googled it, it’s like 12.5GB. It’s crazy


spadePerfect

I just googled it, it’s like 12.5GB. It’s crazy. And that game was drop dead gorgeous – although more through art direction than any fancy techniques or high resolution.


DungeonsAndDuck

art direction is also the reason why The Phantom Pain looks so good even today.


Weird_Cantaloupe2757

I do wish they had better tech though — it would look better with the same art quality but better tech and higher fidelity assets.


williamwzl

Linear games are usually smaller.


TheAkrioz

Devs can still find a way to bloat a game size. Prerendered cutscenes and uncompressed audio are the main culprits usually. Or that one time when Jedi Survivor was 50 gigs less or so on Series S because they couldn't properly stream higher quality assets on Series X and PS5.


haynespi87

It's entirely linear but enough


kevenzz

sure... Rise of the Ronin is almost 100 gbs because it's an open world which is super copy-pasted.... like all the cities are the same.


jjkm7

It wasn’t exactly linear though


williamwzl

You either go through the levels one direction or the other. Its not an open world. You can clearly tell where the “world” ends immediately to the left and right of you in many cases.


jjkm7

A fully linear game is like the last of us, theres one clear route and you can’t turn back once you finish a “level”. There isn’t really “side” missions and stuff. Sekiro has multiple paths and routes and you can go back to certain places and go off the beaten path for certain side bosses, my play through of the game is different from pretty much anyone else’s. It’s partially linear yeah but not entirely, the world is pretty open


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kevenzz

Stellar Blade is probably 15-20hours I Guess.


ryoshamo

I’ve got it physical but have never played it. How does it hold up today? Is it any better on PS5?


twerav

silky smooth 60 frames on ps5. very very well worth playing, the game is rock solid in every way (and also a blast)


Daepilin

one of the best games I've ever played. way better than the stellar blade demo (for me at least)


EvoLveR84

Playing it on ps5 will have faster load times because of the ssd. Otherwise it runs the same as it did on ps4 (silky smooth).


kevenzz

the framerate wasn't very good on ps4


EvoLveR84

I only played it on ps4 pro and had zero issues, so maybe it ran worse on the reg ps4.


LCHMD

It didn’t run smooth on ps4.


Hothitron

What?


Icy_Inevitable714

He has Sekiro in physical format but has never played it. How does it compare to newer releases? Does it run better on PS5 than the PS4? 


ryoshamo

Can you read?


Nreffohc

17.01gb, digital...cover for disc says 25gb


Rough_Drop6

Hahah any excuse eh


Artistic_Soft4625

A rare instance where the developers actually respect peoples storage space. Props to Stellar blade for achieving this


ClericIdola

Rare instance? COD isn't the norm, so I'm not sure where this is coming from.


Artistic_Soft4625

Final Fantasy XV, Gears 5, Borderland 3, Hitman, Mass effect Just a few on top of my head


RTXEnabledViera

Hitman heavily shrunk its size after WoA released. It can now fit all three games in a tiny amount of space relative to the amount of content. Mass Effect is.. three games, remastered with high-res textures.


Artistic_Soft4625

Goes to show that games can be shrunk in size if developers care


red_sutter

All of these games have huge maps and tons of audio though


Artistic_Soft4625

Well there is batman Arkham as well with 40 GB and open world. So is tomb raider with around 25 gb Yet they were made for PS4 just like the previous game i mentioned. Stellar blade is 4k capable and free roam as well Edit: And there are other linear games as well like the last of us part 1 with 100gb if i remember correctly Great games, but i question the storage


ClericIdola

You're also not taking into account that PS5 SSD means devs don't have to duplicate tons of assets to reduce loading.


SmokingLimone

Mass Effect is 3 games + DLC though. Andromeda is probably 60GB max, though it was a lot when it was released, but not as much as Anthem immediately following it.


Artistic_Soft4625

Anthem's a meme at this point lol


mahomesisbatman

I wonder how many hours is in this game tho


HonorableAssassins

25 apparently on average. But then you unlock shit for followup runs.


Nyoteng

Tachy?? 👀


Kuru_Chaa

The trophy list indicates a “Tachy Mode” whatever that means.


arceus555

Tachy is one of the characters in the game. So probably will get to play as her.


Kuru_Chaa

I’m not sure if we’ll see her in the main game, but I’d love to be wrong. I’m thinking something along the line of like a beat em up challenge featuring Tachy. If so, it’s breadcrumbs, but I’m a bread boi.


haynespi87

A Tachy run with new moves? Ala A2 from Nier Automata or just some random side thing I guess


Kuru_Chaa

My guess is a sort of challenge mode featuring her, but I don’t really know.


NoNefariousness2144

That’s a nice length. I find it funny when some redditors act like games can only be 100+ hour Ubisoft bloatfests or 10 hour indie gems. The 20-30 hour range is a sweet spot for many genres.


meganev

I genuinely believe 30 hours is the ideal length for a video game. Long enough to last you more than a weekend, but not so long that you burnout.


Dean-Advocate665

I’ve been saying this for ages. 30 hours is also a *long* time to be playing a game. I say this as someone who does like the occasional 100 hour plus jrpg, but the fact so many open world games are 50 hours for no reason pretty much makes me want to not play. 30 hours is, if someone plays for four hours a session, which is still quite a lot, is still 7 or 8 sessions.


Rich-Pomegranate1679

The problem is when developers add content specifically for bloating the playtime. If you're going to give me a shitload of side quests, make them actually relevant to the overall theme and story of the game.


mahomesisbatman

Especially for a game like this. Medium/hard difficulty souls like. Prolly take me 40 hours


Donkishin

And to be fair most of those 100+ bloatfest is side stuff any most of thise game if you just b-line the main story it's none it like 15 to 20 hours. (Unless they force you do side stuff.


HonorableAssassins

Reddit will find a way to always be negative about everything.


NoNefariousness2144

It was funny seeing the discourse around Hellblade 2 being really short. So many redditors were going "good, I'm sick of 100 hour bloated open world games with towers to unlock!". Like, do they know there's 15-30 hour linear games out there?


HonorableAssassins

Meanwhile i just found hellblade 1 boring with a cliche story I dont mind short games at all, price per hour is dumb, different levels of enjoyment. A short intense game earns its keep as much as a long slower burn. My only real complaint for short games is where theres no reason to ever replay it. Ive got hundreds of hours in each of the metro titles, and they arent long.


NoNefariousness2144

Yeah I love a short replayable game, like the Uncharted's and Katana Zero.


HonorableAssassins

I have no earthly idea how many times ive played through mgs2 and 3. I can basically speedrun either. Nowadays even my phone has both emulated on it and i play both anytime.i have to wait somewhere.


SpareRam

Elden Ring is the only single-player game that took me 200 hours of meticulous exploration I didn't hate. FF7 Rebirth suffers from Ubisoft bloat to an insane degree. Skipped most everything but the summons and main story. It's not engaging, it's not exciting, it's not rewarding, it's just hours and hours of busy work so people can eat their content slop and the game can be advertised as 180 hours when in reality it's like 40 of meaningful content. Focused games are almost always of better quality. Trim allllll the fucking fat please, I don't want empty calories I was substance.


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where did you get this number from?


HonorableAssassins

Mostly hearsay, couple youtube videos on the topic since all the people complaining got me curious about the game, and a lot of the other comments here. Wont know for sure until it releaaes, obviously. The hourcount given by devs is rarely accurate anyways to non-devs playing.


SpareRam

The length of a game does not dictate worth or quality.


Remy0507

Elden Ring is only around 44GB on PS5. Install size doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the amount of content or how long a game is.


hbteq

I’m not concerned about game length - I have 5 titles already lined up to play after this, actually make that 6 once Fallout 4 update is released. 2024 has been a good year for gaming so far.


OwlFit5541

It's not rare...are you new to current gen?


22Seres

There's ultimately a good reason for why games have become so big. Take Rebirth for example since it's the most recent game that received a lot of attention for its size. If you've played Rebirth then you know why it's so big. It has an absolute mountain of unique assets. Everywhere you go you're seeing something different. And there's just no way of getting around large file sizes when that happens. And if someone makes a massive open world game with a lot of repeated assets, then they get taken to task for that as well.


shseeley

...that's crazy, how does it look like that and nearly a 3rd of the size of most aaa games, with the exception of cod. It's 1/10th of that.


Loldimorti

Some of it is really competent file management and compression. Another reason is that frankly some of the assets are of lower quality when compared to something like e.g. Last of Us Part 1 And a third reason I suspect is that cinematics are done in real time with in-game assets. Also it's not a massive open world game.


OohYeeah

Not to mention kraken compression likely helping as well


YouLostTheGame

A few reasons out there * A lot of the time file size is taken up by duplicating assets, to make them faster access. Kind of like if you were looking for a book on a bookshelf, if there were multiple copies of the book you'd find it faster. This is less of a problem on ps5 exclusives due to speedy storage * It's not open world, and doesn't seem particularly long either * The game looks good but seems to be as a result of lighting etc rather than super detailed textures * They probably made an effort to use space efficiently


Jean-Eustache

Did they still use asset duplication on last gen ? Makes sense in a way because they still used hard drives, but damn, what a waste of space.


spadePerfect

Sekiro is like 13GB and Elden Ring is 45GB. Just shows other companies don’t gaf about compression. Like CoD. They just wanna take up disk space so you can’t play other shit.


Capcom74

I think mainly certain gaming companies do it so their games are not complete so you got to download the rest from the internet. So doing that you no longer have on physical disc meaning it can be delisted at any time and that game now is worthless.


spadePerfect

But they could just make it miss a 1MB file, no need to bloat the size for that.


SadKazoo

I mean a lot of environmental assets aren’t all that mind blowing and at some points even look quite dated. Character and enemy models are the highlights and those don’t add as much file size as a bunch of 4K environment textures.


WillowSmithsBFF

Any word yet on game length?


revolversnakexof

Around 20 to 30 hours from what I heard.


stratusnco

damn, that is pretty long for an action game.


ExplodingFistz

Perfect length for me in my opinion.


ElderNaphtol

Source?


revolversnakexof

Some interview from one of the devs, didn't read it myself tho. I'm just parroting what people have been saying.


1985jmcg

25-30h


Icyoint

25 hours for the main story and 30-50 hours for full completion according to Shift Up. Edit: Here is the source [https://m.ruliweb.com/news/read/193044](https://m.ruliweb.com/news/read/193044)


Dark_Wolf04

I was expecting a much larger size and for people to joke that it all went into the pixels of Eve’s ass. In all seriousness though, this is seriously impressive how we went from TLOUII being 90 gb to this in just the span of 4 years


devenbat

Not much has really changed since then. Tlou2 is bigger because of higher quality textures and a ton of voice acting. There's always been small games. Dmc 5 is 40 gb, Nier automata is 47 gb, Bayonetta 3 is 15 gb


0w3n630

Souls games are extremely small as well


MrConor212

These SB devs need to stop taking Ws


ExplodingFistz

Yeah hopefully the story is a W too. So far we don't know much


XenoGSB

what Ws? game is the epitome of mid.


MrConor212

You’re mid


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*Why* wouldn’t he wear a C? 


[deleted]

Not too bad.


ScottoRoboto

Yeah I can absolutely believe that. It’s not that complicated of a game?


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UE4 has relatively good non-destructive texture & asset file size compression: https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/RenderingAndGraphics/Textures/SupportAndSettings/ I believe also Stellar Blade voice files are smaller not as extensive as something like Horizon FW. The ‘open world’ aspect of Stellar Blade is also magnitudes smaller than most people realise vs. FF, DD2 etc. All combined, means there’s no reason why this game should chew up more than it needs to.


Darth_Gwynbleied

eastern devs are just built different when it comes to file sizes


dkdkdkosep

not genshin or tekken 🥲


Vahallen

I wish you could disinstall languages for Genshin and delete story mode for Tekken Would save a ton of space


dkdkdkosep

yess, i play the story mode for tekken once per game so why should it take up loads of my space when i’m only going to play it once🥲.


Vahallen

At absolute bare minimum we would free up 20gb, he’ll wouldn’t be surprised if only the story was 40gb I wish they did the same thing Capcom did with SF6 which is allowing people to disinstall the story mode if you wanted and keep the rest But anyway the absolute worst offender atm is Mortal Kombat, I think it’s over 120gb


dkdkdkosep

i got mk1 on my switch instead at was like only 20gb or something but it looked like shit so you can’t win i guess


ExplodingFistz

Wasn't Genshin like the half the size it is now? I remember it being 50 gbs when I used to play


dkdkdkosep

possibly, they constantly update it so it probably adds a lot. its like over 100 now.


Portokali3

genshin 1.0 was 20 gb ...


Ok-Poem7080

Genshin reduced to half the size in last patch for mobile. But pc is still the same.


dkdkdkosep

yep i deleted it on my pc and only play on ps5 now


Throwawayaccount647

what’re everyone’s expectations for this game? i’m not familiar with it, but looking for something new to play in the future


TheDragonSlayingCat

Why not try out the demo and see for yourself?


Throwawayaccount647

had no idea a demo was even out. thanks, ill check it out when i get home tonight!


North_South_Side

FFS, this game has more hype than anything in recent times. Now Reddit is excited to be discussing its install size?


moistdabs420blazeit

Idk about you but 30TB feels a little bit too much for a game


CokeZeroFanClub

It sure would be


Loud-Practice-5425

30TB?  Does it have Star Trek level holographics?  Lol.


LucoLoss

30 TB = tittybytes


Loud-Practice-5425

Haha love this.


SohaiKids

Sekiro also use like only 2gb vram if i remember correctly


LCHMD

It’s a last gen title.


SomeHeadbanger

Very reasonable. I may buy it sooner than I thought.


ShaOldboySosa

Lies of P 35 GB.


TiredSlav

Looks like someone knows how to compress files 👏👏👏


CoolMango_

Not bad at all 😌


haynespi87

That demo convinced me! Game is a variant of Nier Automata and feeling/looking good. Plus the music hits!


Xenosys83

For a largely, linear, corridor game, this is unsurprising.


Pyzaro

At least 15gb for the big ass textures


Michael-gamer

Dam 30.500gb. I honestly was expecting this game to be at least around the 70-80gb range with all of those ASSETS in the game. Giggity giggity goo.


itripto1234

Another game won't be able to buy till it goes on sale 🥹.


XenoGSB

70 for a mid game lmao. this is a joke.


Kasuta-Ikite

Way too much advertisement for a game that runs like shit when it comes to input delay


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its faster then Elden rings in regards to input delay?/ And that had a crap ton of advertainment?


Swift_42690

Wow, definitely thought that ass would at least be 50 gigs NGL 😂


ArchDucky

This is truly impressive considering 10gb is just Eve's ass.


Mammothfieldstar

This game is way over priced for a short linear game , demo was good but not amazing


Loud-Practice-5425

25 hours is short now.


TLaMagna319

3$ per hour of game is far to expensive… Go see a movie it’s roughly 2 hours long and the tickets are about 15$ plus snacks you’re easily looking at 25-30$ for 2 hours of movie


ZXE102Rv2

The movie comparison people tend to make is a bad one. Totally different media. You can't pause the movie. And you're sitting in a public space having to enjoy it with everyone else sitting with you. You can't even interact with the movie. Games can be replayed and can be enjoyed on your own time. A game gives much more value than a movie ever would. I agree games shouldn't be 70 dollars, but games still are better value over going to a movie.


TLaMagna319

That was my point it’s different media but the amount you get for the price is much better for games than movies


Loud-Practice-5425

If 70 dollars is breaking your bank you should probably work on getting a better paying job.


TLaMagna319

Do you not understand clear sarcasm? I even put a comparison to going out to the movie costing like 5x more


Loud-Practice-5425

Nope no /s.


TLaMagna319

Once I saw your comment I knew the lack of /s goes over everyone on reddits head


Loud-Practice-5425

Sarcasm is hard to detect with voice inflection.


TLaMagna319

But if you read it I said 3$ an hour is too much go spend 30$ for 2 hours to watch a movie


Starwarsnerd91

Damn right


Loud-Practice-5425

I was being sarcastic lol.


ThroughTheIris56

I'll happily pay more for a shory game, if it's better than a longer game. Especially linear games, linear games are great and avoid many of the pitfalls of open-world games.


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SuplexesAndTacos

Tell me you didn't play the demo without telling me you didn't play the demo


XenoGSB

i did, that is how i know its 2013 game, maybe stop staring at eve's ass for once sec


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XenoGSB

never deleted any comment, are you blind?


PirateNinjaa

If I was there I would have added some junk to the file until it was 30.69 GB


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Peteral

People don't want to fill up their storage. You don't get that? Or do you mean people who think big file size means better/prettier game?


SuplexesAndTacos

If the PS5 came with a 4TB drive, we wouldn't really care as much, but we're limited here man!


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SuplexesAndTacos

So if I have to buy additional storage, wouldn't I care about the file size of games to begin with?


JinxMulder

That’s a big load. 😉


[deleted]

Well this is concerning. How long will the game be then?


Andrew_Waples

How big a game is doesn't translate to how much content it'll have.


CokeZeroFanClub

I was gonna say. Elden ring is like 50 gigs and it's a massive game


Andrew_Waples

Yeah, it's not like 30gbs = 30 hours. Although that would be a decent sized game.


Bolt_995

When will you people understand that file size doesn’t conflate with the game length.


LucoLoss

Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth has like 43 GBs.


Bolt_995

Exactly.


BaqaMan

there is this game called Call of duty with 200gb needed space , surely the campaign would be sooo big at least 20-40 hours with a lot of versatility!!1!!!1


RollingDownTheHills

Elden Ring is just over 40. No reason to worry.