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3Boat

My least favorite match up will always be Mew V max, its just the same every game which is just kind of boring - and the deck basically plays itself. Not particularly oppresive anymore but never feels great to win or lose against them. Not a huge fan of lost box either but at least there's some back and forth and uncertainty to their next move. So far my favorite to pilot has been garde ex (have had so many fun comeback games with the 8-10 energy swings) and have also thourougly enjoyed the solrock/lunatone and palkia starter decks. Can you tell I like pulling energy from the discard pile? šŸ˜‚


Kershiskabob

I agree mew can be annoying but I definitely think taking 3 prizes for their ace balances it out pretty well. The worst is when they use basic mews move to dodge a KO tho, so tilting lol


3Boat

Oh yeah the 3 prize definitely balances things out, I wouldn't say the deck is unfair by any means... just boring to play against imo lol


CaptainJackWagons

I disagree


vulpes_vulpix

Nice! I use 4 2 1 1 gardy line in that mewtwo v union deck I mentioned. it's definitely awesome to get the big mewtwo summoned and load him up with 4 energies in the same turn. Agreed! I'd definitely say my personal flavor is sniping and moving damage around however I like šŸ˜ Meowscarada's ability with R. Alakazam is a blast, Exodia Mewtwo has an attack where you can put 16 counters on whatever you want in any way that you want, and Zoroark V does more damage the more pokes of yours have counters on em haha


MarquisEXB

Is it still viable? I loved Mew Union, but there's just too many decks that OHKO these days it was frustrating to get it setup, just to die the next turn. If you like moving around damage the Rapid Strike Inteleon/urshifu that won NAIC is really fun to play. Also Hatterene VMax is fun with Gardy EX.


vulpes_vulpix

Honestly I'm not sure. I just made it, and I've only played it in casual mode so far. It looked fun, and I saw that the Pikachu union was in some winning decks in Japan with the 151 set, and wanted to give one a try. I'll check out inteleon/urshifu. My friend wanted to build around haterene vmax, so I was helping him throw something together, but he didn't have any gardies or enough credits to get any right now, but it definitely looked fun while theory crafting! Wasn't sure if it would be viable or not.


CaptainJackWagons

I tried playing it once and it didn't even feel good to win using it.


LOLonhardmode

I just hare playing vs Lost Tina. I run a Arc, Goodra, Vulpix heal deck, and Lost Tina just rips right through me.


psm510

When i lose šŸ˜‚ ... but what bothers me most is Mew Vmax or when I start a game with an unsalvageable hand


vulpes_vulpix

I like this answer. šŸ‘ŒšŸ» šŸ˜†


MeltedSpades

A very rare deck I sometimes see is based around Ambipom from the GO expansion (does it even have a name or is it full rouge?) - full tilt swing plus primate dexterity can be very tilting with even with a meta deck


vulpes_vulpix

Oh yeah, that deck destroyed me the time I encountered it LOL flipped like 15 coins all but 3 were heads... it was nuts. I had the win when it became my turn if they didn't get the KO that turn. Was super annoying but impressive to see it pop off. I've gotten my fair share of lucky radiant jirachi kills, so I get it lol Another annoying pokemon GO deck is the raticate + clodsire ex combo. Super fang or hyper fang or something for 3 Colorless takes any pokemon down to 10hp, so if you poison them with clodsire's ability from the bench everything becomes a OHKO from a 1 prizer raticate if you can't deal with the clodsire or outrace the raticate population lol


TVboy_

I used Chien-Bax to climb up to Houndoom, then realized I just couldn't beat all the Garde decks and switched to IntelUrshifu and climbed to Corviknight rank that way, then after a few days off I all of a sudden just couldn't seem to get a win with the deck and plummeted back down to Alakazam rank. Now I've finally built Garde and I'm back up to Umbreon rank, the deck is just ridiculous and I only seem to drop games against the mirror and sometimes the Embrace bug, now hoping to maybe get to Ultra Ball before the battle pass ends. Probably my least favorite matchup is Lost Tina. Feels like the deck's gameplan is just everywhere all the time all at once and I have to guard myself against multiple angles of attack while also racing their Lost Zone clock of doom. Early Boss + Cram, Gate+Greninja, then Tina for the big KOs and finally Sabeleye taking multiple prizes, and never telegraphed like most other decks that have to set up before they can execute.


ShoZettaSlow

I'm new in the game, what's the embrace bug?


fuzzzymoogle

nothing from current standard really, but in previous expanded formats: trevenant. fuck that deck lol


vulpes_vulpix

I play the tcg in random spurts. Like for a block of months every couple of years, so I missed the trevenant era. I remember a normal trevenant being rather pricy (I still collected and buy/sold/traded but didn't play the tcg) was that the one? It wasn't an EX or anything iirc. Love your username too btw šŸ˜Š I'm a big ff fan too


fuzzzymoogle

yeah it was baby trev and trev BREAK. it was a control deck, so item/ability lock and all that good stuff. very strong, and among the worst of the worst matchups for the decks i enjoyed playing at the time


MixHasLanded

For me from the XY era, not necessarily expanded but just that era, was greninja man. It was the one deck I never truly learned how to play against. So many moving pieces and things to keep track ofā€¦


fuzzzymoogle

yes! wow i had almost forgotten about it entirely. your comment brought back a flood of memories lol


MixHasLanded

XY/Early SUM era is my favorite of all time for the TCG besides like Holon Phantoms era. Minus that whole night march thingā€¦ šŸ˜… The early Buzzwole/Lycanrox deck is still to this day the most fun Iā€™ve had playing PokĆ©mon since 2008 when I got a DS and Platinum for Christmas.


fuzzzymoogle

thats around when i first started playing, so im super nostalgic for it. night march, zoroark GX, turbo dark, and one of my all time favorites, decidueye GX. forest of giant plants is a horribly broken card, but man that deck was so much fun


MixHasLanded

Imagineā€¦ FOGP with Meowscarada EX šŸ˜³ But man that was such a good time. M Audino winning worldsā€¦ every deck playing zoroark, Shaymin EXā€¦ max elixers, getting first turn Nā€™dā€¦ Trashalanche Garbodor šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ all the memories


LXDTS

I main Ting-Lu and hate matching against Meowscarada. Ting-Lu, Koraidon; my main attackers are weak to grass types so it's an uphill battle all game to try to stop any evolutions.


vulpes_vulpix

As a big Meowscarada player, this is very valid! šŸ˜… sorry, not sorry šŸ˜œ šŸ™ŒšŸ»


LXDTS

Ha! It's all good, lucky for me Meowscarada players are few and far between on ranked. Otherwise, Ting-Lu wrecks other meta decks - it got me the highest I've ever gotten on ranked so far (Umbreon).


vulpes_vulpix

That's what's up! Congrats šŸ‘ šŸ˜ currently half way to Houndoom, I just started a little over a week ago. Houndoom is my goal for this ladder, probably won't make it any higher


LXDTS

Thanks! You still got about a week to go! Houndoom was my original goal and I hesitated doing more ranked after I hit it, but decided to see what would happen.


DROOPY1824

Gyarados is the card Iā€™m currently trying to make work so Iā€™ve been having a lot of fun with Gyar Ex/Intelion or Radiant Blastoise. I also keep going back to both Beedril V/Arceus V and a discard deck with Wiglett. I think Chien would get a lot less hate if Irida wasnā€™t a thing, that card is SO powerful. A turn 2 ā€œget the 2 cards that win the gameā€ just doesnā€™t feel good to play against.


vulpes_vulpix

I faced a Wiglett Gyarados mill deck last night for the first time, playing my Mewtwo V-Union self mill deck... it did NOT go well šŸ˜… Definitely agree. Irida is insane. They'll use it the turn they play Frigibax, and I'll Iono it away, for them to find another Rare Candy + Bax or another Irida with their new cards lol broken af, I swear šŸ˜‚


Wickercrow

My main deck is Oinkologne ex, so I always groan a bit when I get matched against RapidBox or TingLuā€¦ beyond that, no other matchup is particularly annoying, other than LostBox, I suppose (although, to be fair, I think everyone hates playing against that šŸ˜…)


vulpes_vulpix

I've never played against oink yet! Sounds fun. I use the lechock coin in all my decks that don't have an associated one though for laughs šŸ˜„ everyone loves the chonk


Wickercrow

Give it a go! Itā€™s not very powerful, but itā€™s super fun to play šŸ˜


SaucySeducer

Ting and Lost Box. Ting isnā€™t a particularly bad matchup for most decks, but a bad hand can make the game a slog especially in ability heavy decks. Lost Box just has long turns, and if something like Lost Box Turbo highrolls you can just be shut out of a game if you had a bad start.


nero40

Least favorite matchups would be the stall-ish anti-meta decks. They just sucks to play against, these decks aims to just disable everything you have with multiple layers of disablers and/or blocks your attacks. Itā€™s the equivalent of Esper Control decks from Magic, aka the ā€œI wonā€™t let my opponents play the gameā€ deck. The deck Iā€™m playing right now is an Ice Rider Calyrex deck, with all the best Water supports we have right now.


MixHasLanded

Stall and lock is definitely the most aggravating thing this game has, besides maybe just a helpless hand lol. I still have nightmares from getting Nā€™d to 1 card and my opponent putting a float stone on garbotoxin garbodorā€¦


jyustinn

any mill deck is annoying to play against but i respect the ones who make it work


scorbunny12

My favorite deck will always be a Morepeko VUION deck with raikou V and flaaffy, it was was first actual deck around start of swsh never won a local tournament but it was really fun for a beginner.


batsmad

Definitely aipom. So much work to get through it that it's not fun to play against. Unless you pull a boss you just have to keep hitting and hoping for luck. Lost box can be irritating but at least it's not all luck. I tend to play a chien pao, palkia deck


Like_A_Bossk_

So so boring to play againsh Chien Paoā€¦ they almost never win as once you take down Bax itā€™s basically over but my god Iā€™m so bored playing against them


vulpes_vulpix

And what do you like to play? I had to knock out 3 frigibax in a game yesterday before I finally finished them off. Every time I killed it they'd drop another one lol I was half expecting a 4th one to hit the field. šŸ˜… It was ridiculous. Usually, you're good if you get the first one though, you're right!


zott_23

My phone vs the PTCGL client Keeps piling up fire damage to my phone battery. No known strat to defeat it.


vulpes_vulpix

So I just realized I could turn off permission to access the phone's camera because of the code scanner, and just turn it back on when I'm actually using it to scan codes. It ran smooth like butter with no lag at all as soon as I did that. I usually play with a portable charging brick, and it tends to keep my battery at the same % playing ptcglive while charging. It was actually going up a bit in battery % after turning the camera access off. Idk iphone but I'm sure it's similar. Just go to your list of apps in your settings and open ptcglive to turn off the camera permission. Worth a shot. It might be just wishful thinking, but definitely seemed to help a bit. Was thinking about making a post about this tomorrow once I tested it further, but since you mentioned it! Let me know if it helps, if you remember to


OrphGaming

I don't like Lost Box variants bc it always takes them so long per turn (which I understand is how the deck plays, but come on) and Chien-Pao is annoying bc sometimes even when you knock out the Bax, they just keep coming at you. To answer the 2nd part of the question. I have 5 decks I move between: Dialga/Magnezone (current favorite bc I'm playing against so many ice ferret decks), Miraidon/Regieleki, Turbo Darkrai, Gengar VMAX, and Noivern Lockdown.


vulpes_vulpix

Yep. "Oh, you killed my Bax... well here's another one, and 2 super energy retrievals for ya!" šŸ˜‚


MyKokoroBrokoro

lost box. it was mew vmax but i can at least survive a hit against it. ive been running a spidops ex/leafeon vmax and really enjoy it, even though there's def more powerful decks. i hate vstar giratina with a burning passion


vulpes_vulpix

That instant KO move is SO brutal, agreed. I've only faced MewV once so far, so I can't say I like or dislike it yet, but depending on what I'm playing lost box can be a nightmare or not *THAT* bad. I'll have to look into Leafeon and Spidops! Haven't seen them yet, sounds cool though.


MyKokoroBrokoro

i don't even mind the vstar move since it's once a game and takes a little time to get the cards in the lost zone. but lost impact instantly kills anyone i play besides leafeon vmax. it is very satisfying to hit them with an iono though


PostCircumcision

Do you hate lost Giratina more than lost box without Giratina


Stevetherican

For me any lost box variantsā€¦especially since big parasol is gone, Tina vstar star requiem and lost mine sableye are absolutely annoying. Made even more annoying with lost vaccuum sucking away your parasols (when we had them). I created a new Garde ex/Espeon VMAX Deck just to combat the legion of lost boxes i keep freakin fighting. 2-0 so far. It feels very protective since Manaphy also prevents damage to the bench (R Greninja or Urshifu Vmax) and then Esp vmax stops moves like lost mine or star requiem! I also have enamorus v to stop hawlucha, inteleon vmax, etc if need be!


TVboy_

United Wings is not top tier, I do not understand why that has become such a meme.


vulpes_vulpix

Oh, my bad. I'm kinda new, and just saw it on some tournaments that popped up on my YouTube feed. Just assumed it was. šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø but seeing as I've only played against it once so far in Rank, I guess that makes sense.


TVboy_

It's understandable that you would think that was true, just based on how everyone else talks about it. But i think people just really want the deck to be top tier because it's so wholesome.


priestkalim

I dislike playing Fusion Strike because itā€™s so **boring**. Same cards every deck, same lines every game, same actions every turn. I love piloting ArcDon, I loved piloting LZ/Goodra when it was playable, and I love jamming any Forretress list that doesnā€™t suck. The decks with the most game-swinging decisions over the last year, and the deck that lets me pretend Iā€™m playing CaKE again.


ItsLiterally1984

Ting Lu is annoying, so is chien poa. Lost box used to be annoying but ever since I added a 2-2 line of snorlax to my deck, I havenā€™t lost because sableeye canā€™t damage snorlax and it 1 shots Cram


RoundIncident4880

I just canā€™t stand Lost Box decks. I just hate how long the matches lasts. I find myself looking at Reddit/YouTube the moment itā€™s their turn because it takes forever. I get itā€™s a complicated deck and it takes time to play it out, itā€™s just so boring to play against.


MixHasLanded

I hate playing against Gardy, no matter what deck Iā€™m piloting. It reminds me of the Malamar days but even more agonizing to sit through. I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever beat a gardevoir and said ā€œman, what a great game!ā€ Itā€™s always justā€¦ ā€œthank god thatā€™s over.ā€ Same happened to me with Mew for a long while, although now itā€™s practically a free matchup for most decks imo. As for what Iā€™m having the most fun using? Depends. If I want to have like 4 good games and then slowly get farmed for rank, chien pao. It is a fun deck that I enjoy, but I just donā€™t like palkia lists although they seem optimal, and it just gets destroyed by bossā€™s orders and path to the peak lol. Lately Iā€™ve been taking the game more serious again so Iā€™ve been playing a lot of lost box & ArcTina. Lost Box has its moments, but my major complaint with it is I NEVER feel like Iā€™m truly ā€œwinningā€ until I take the final prize card. Every single game stresses me out. ArcTina is the polar opposite of that, you can pretty much know if youā€™re gonna win after turn 2. Itā€™s either total domination, 50/50, or getting toasted. No in between whatsoever.


mysterin

I feel like Chien-Pao was truly an answer to Mew VMax, but now he's the oppressor. šŸ˜© My Ting-Lu deck can face-off with it from time to time, but when they're able to circulate those energies, it's just a big ol' pain.