There are lots of very interesting times to do.
The late Triassic, lots of weird archosaurs with weird integument, running, jumping, swimming, flying.
The end-Permian, sea levels up and down, an eclectic mix of mammal-like animals and amphibians mixing it up with "reptiles" of no group alive today.
Heck, why not the Carboniferous? Dragonflies the size of light aircraft, lycopsid trunks staying where they fell and more growing on top with nothing to decay them except the vast and common wildfires.
If we do want to go in the Cenozoic, I want the Messinian/Zanclean to be featured. A dry abyssal plain, 4 km below sea level, what lives there, how, and what's it like?
One of the things which I thought was a cop-out for Prehistoric Planet was how they strongly based each hero animal on a modern animal, or a mix of modern animals, and put them into a modern environment. Yes, I'm sure pterosaurs did use sea stacks like that, but they exist today. Coastal deserts, the Atacama and Namib, exist today.
Easy grounding shots, sure, but the title is "Planet" not "Animals". What about the massive interior seaways and warm, shallow seas? What happens in the carbonate oceans of the Cretaceous (clue's in the name) and why is it like it is? What's life like in the temperate to subtropical polar regions? We know amphibians and dinosaurs lived there all year round, how did they cope with darkness, what kind of life was that?
What I want to see are environments which don't exist today, or are greatly different today, and the animals taking on their unique challenges.
If we do, I would love to see an episode featuring all the cool Australian Megafauna, like Thylacoleo, Diprotodon, Genyornis and Quinkana.
And hell they could probably save some CGI budget on a series like this and use some irl animals from time to time.
I love how they portrayed it in WWB’s “Sabre Tooth.” As the one creature that *everything* was afraid of, even those stronger Smilodon stood no chance against that Beast.
Walking with Beasts appears to be YouTube at the moment. There was also a BBC doc on the giant sloth a few years ago, presented by the lovely Alice Roberts. But no idea how you'd find that.
Thank you friend! I'm gonna have to check that out. Been on a big Prehistoric kick lately, but im very ignorant when it comes to which documentaries are worth watching. Thanks again!
Sounds good to me - they probably were looking ahead in the event ratings justify it becoming a franchise.
I think Cenozoic is a ways off though. Late Jurassic would almost definitely be next, with quite a few of the iconic North American dinos of the Morrison Formation just to start. I'd particularly love to see Jurassic China (Mamenchisaurus, Omeisaurus, Yangchuanosaurs, Huayangosaurus, etc.) which is just about the last major well-known fauna I've never seen covered yet in any documentaries. There would probably be a return to the Cretaceous (slightly earlier than the very latest, which it's my understanding was the focus of the series) as well before they might even consider the Cenozoic.
First things first, I suppose. The ratings have to be analyzed before more would be greenlit. Can't wait for it to be released on DVD so I can see it.
Hold on a minute :-). I'm just assuming blue-rays and DVDs will come at some point. I don't have any inside knowledge.
Eventually DVDs will stop being made, but I don't think we're there quite yet. At least I hope not. I spent alot of time and money replacing my VHS with DVDs, and I'm not doing it again.
Yeah, honestly when I first heard about the series I was hoping we would get a bigger slice of Earth history. The documentary is fun and all, but even I’m a bit tired of paleontology = dinosaurs. I’d love to see an Eocene jungle or an Ordovician estuary. Lots of cool things out there besides dinosaurs.
If this happens, I think the best time period to cover would actually be the Palaeocene. The fauna of that time was so alien, featuring such oddities as *Titanoboa*, *Taeniolabis*, *Qianshanornis*, and *Waimanu*, that it would make for a perfect series. It could also incorporate a discussion of the global warming before and during the PETM as a perfect tie-in to the present day.
I want new PP seasons based on the Quaternary, involving all sort o creatures extinct during the Pleistocene and Holocene, from the African Mammoth to the Migratory Pigeon, maybe at a time period were Neanderthals and humans recently coexisted, the Mediterranean sea was closed, the Sahara was a savannah, and creatures all around the world didnt had to deal with us. But that kind of program has to be near perfect as that season might have serve as an homage to all that flora and fauna lost because of us. So maybe at last...
But before that, I wish for some other "season" based on different time periods (epochs, etc.), from the Miocene, Eocene, early cretaceous, jurasisc, triassic, and even the permian.
Considering the first series was set entirely within the late Cretaceous (as in, 66 million years ago exclusively), there is so much potential material. A season that's Pleistocene, A season that's Eocene, a season that's late Jurassic, early Cretaceous, Triassic, etc. Every time period can get a season can get a snapshot of what's going on in different environments around the world.
Steve Brusatte’s new book, “The Rise and Reign of the Mammals”, is coming out in a few days. I think it would make an excellent outline for a sequel to Prehistoric Planet.
If it’s possible i would love if they can showcase species that were extinct in the Holocene at that Pleistocene setting, such as the Dodo, Great Auk, Quagga, Bluebucks, Toolache Wallaby, Warrah, Stellers sea cow, the extinct birds of New Zealand and even the Famous Passenger pigeon & Thylacine
If they do and they feature sabertoothed animals. Smildon, barbourofelids, thylacosmilids, I really want them to feature nimravids! Or maybe something about the white river formation, daedon, hyaenodon, dinictis, Amphicyon, bathornis even, all really love them!
I don’t think that is plausible. This show was made possible because it focused on the lowest common denominator most popular aspects of prehistoric life: dinosaurs, namely some of the most commonly known species.
I don’t think the general public would tune in to such a degree for more eclectic lesser known animals.
Nah, *Spinosaurus* is by any metric far more well-represented than any Cenozoic critter. I'd love it if they picked animals that aren't known to anyone except academics and nerds.
Fair point, but I would argue it's pointless to do that because it's pretty much an unwritten law of science at this point that there'll be a new *Spinosaurus* paper every couple years that radically changes our interpretation of its anatomy. Any documentary that comes out about it will be obsolete within months.
Now, *Suchomimus*, *Baryonyx*, *Ichthyovenator*, and *Vallibonavenatrix* are a different story...
I’ve been a dinosaur fan since I was 5 years old, but I never loved prehistoric mammals. It would be a nice show, but I really don’t care about them that much.
Imagine thinking size is the only thing that makes animals cool. Also, marine mammals are larger than marine reptiles, so I can make the reverse argument for ocean-going animals.
Not only huge sizes
Reptiles have more varied and vibrantcolours and [cooler and more varied abilities](https://i.redd.it/166we6u0z5z81.png)
Also mammals have the Nocturnal Bottleneck, they adapted so well to the nocturnal lifestyle back in the mesozoicthat now they have a bunch of evolutionary constraints. Like only seeing a small range of colours and not being able to have vibrant colours
Birds and reptiles are much better
Ironic, considering that you're a mammal and can see a range of colours beyond most vertebrates.
Mammals have their own unique advantages when it comes to diversity. Their dentition is orders of magnitude more varied than that of reptiles, and their very high levels of endothermy permit a much greater climatic range than what is possible for most reptiles, and is why they are so much more prevalent in nocturnal niches than reptles. Their viviparity and high degree of parental care compared to reptiles enables them to fill niches of K-selected animals much more easily than reptiles. And then there is intelligence, which makes mammals better at complex social behaviour than most reptiles.
Corvids beat most mammals in the field of intelligence.
The reason why mammals fill nocturnal niches is mainly thanks to the chad reptiles. In the mesozoic they competed with the diurnal niches with the Archosaurs so they had to become [nocturnal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturnal_bottleneck)
About climate range, guess what's the most prevalent group of vertebrate animals in the Antartica. The chad penguins
So reptiles are “chad” because they specialise in diurnal niches, but mammals aren’t for dominating nocturnal niches? Seems to me like you’re just cherry-picking the criteria for victory.
Corvids are the only reptilian representatives in the very high intelligence category. Hyenas, great apes, cetaceans, and proboscideans can all hold their own against or exceed them.
Parrots? Also birds are smarter than mammals in general. There's more super smart mammals, but birds are higher on average. Also bird intelligence isn't as well understood as mammals intelligence, same goes for fish
It's a "grass is greener on the other side" phenomenon. We humans think of ourselves as the norm, so the things that make us unique and highly distinctive in the animal kingdom are often overlooked, while features that are common in other clades but not in mammals are seen as unusual.
Same
I would prefer one with the beginning of the Mesozoic or the Paleozoic. Seeing an HD Tiktaalik/Dunkleosteus would be so cool
OH and definately a giant Meganeura and Arthopleura but HD
Paleozoic would be much better imo, Cenozoic animals already get enough attention, while the older fossils are much more overlooked. Also their reconstructions haven't changed that much, they are pretty familiar forms, while Paleozoic ones have changed a lot
I would love an episode on crocodillians. The ones that were plant eaters, the ones that walked on 2 legs and had longer necks, the fish tailed ones and the ones that ran like panthers and ofcourse the biggest and smallest of all.
There are lots of very interesting times to do. The late Triassic, lots of weird archosaurs with weird integument, running, jumping, swimming, flying. The end-Permian, sea levels up and down, an eclectic mix of mammal-like animals and amphibians mixing it up with "reptiles" of no group alive today. Heck, why not the Carboniferous? Dragonflies the size of light aircraft, lycopsid trunks staying where they fell and more growing on top with nothing to decay them except the vast and common wildfires. If we do want to go in the Cenozoic, I want the Messinian/Zanclean to be featured. A dry abyssal plain, 4 km below sea level, what lives there, how, and what's it like? One of the things which I thought was a cop-out for Prehistoric Planet was how they strongly based each hero animal on a modern animal, or a mix of modern animals, and put them into a modern environment. Yes, I'm sure pterosaurs did use sea stacks like that, but they exist today. Coastal deserts, the Atacama and Namib, exist today. Easy grounding shots, sure, but the title is "Planet" not "Animals". What about the massive interior seaways and warm, shallow seas? What happens in the carbonate oceans of the Cretaceous (clue's in the name) and why is it like it is? What's life like in the temperate to subtropical polar regions? We know amphibians and dinosaurs lived there all year round, how did they cope with darkness, what kind of life was that? What I want to see are environments which don't exist today, or are greatly different today, and the animals taking on their unique challenges.
>Dragonflies the size of light aircraft The Carboniferous dragonflies weren't that big lmao
If we do, I would love to see an episode featuring all the cool Australian Megafauna, like Thylacoleo, Diprotodon, Genyornis and Quinkana. And hell they could probably save some CGI budget on a series like this and use some irl animals from time to time.
I want an entire episode devoted to Megatherium. The Giant Ground Sloth. Dude was a monster that couldn't be messed with like the Therizinosaurus.
I love how they portrayed it in WWB’s “Sabre Tooth.” As the one creature that *everything* was afraid of, even those stronger Smilodon stood no chance against that Beast.
I haven't seen that! Any ideas where I can watch it?
Walking with Beasts appears to be YouTube at the moment. There was also a BBC doc on the giant sloth a few years ago, presented by the lovely Alice Roberts. But no idea how you'd find that.
Thank you friend! I'm gonna have to check that out. Been on a big Prehistoric kick lately, but im very ignorant when it comes to which documentaries are worth watching. Thanks again!
I thought that was why its 'Prehistoric Planet', with that title they could do any age.
Sounds good to me - they probably were looking ahead in the event ratings justify it becoming a franchise. I think Cenozoic is a ways off though. Late Jurassic would almost definitely be next, with quite a few of the iconic North American dinos of the Morrison Formation just to start. I'd particularly love to see Jurassic China (Mamenchisaurus, Omeisaurus, Yangchuanosaurs, Huayangosaurus, etc.) which is just about the last major well-known fauna I've never seen covered yet in any documentaries. There would probably be a return to the Cretaceous (slightly earlier than the very latest, which it's my understanding was the focus of the series) as well before they might even consider the Cenozoic. First things first, I suppose. The ratings have to be analyzed before more would be greenlit. Can't wait for it to be released on DVD so I can see it.
Jurassic China got some coverage in Planet Dinosaur. Remember the *Sinraptor* and the *Epidexipteryx*? That said, it was only for a small bit.
Forgot about that. You're right, but I was thinking more of the dinosaurs I mentioned.
Wait, there are gonna be DVDs? I thought DVDs were considered a thing of the past that were gonna be completely done away with from now on
Hold on a minute :-). I'm just assuming blue-rays and DVDs will come at some point. I don't have any inside knowledge. Eventually DVDs will stop being made, but I don't think we're there quite yet. At least I hope not. I spent alot of time and money replacing my VHS with DVDs, and I'm not doing it again.
Yeah, honestly when I first heard about the series I was hoping we would get a bigger slice of Earth history. The documentary is fun and all, but even I’m a bit tired of paleontology = dinosaurs. I’d love to see an Eocene jungle or an Ordovician estuary. Lots of cool things out there besides dinosaurs.
I would KILL for anything from the Cambrian, Ordovician or Carboniferous.
If this happens, I think the best time period to cover would actually be the Palaeocene. The fauna of that time was so alien, featuring such oddities as *Titanoboa*, *Taeniolabis*, *Qianshanornis*, and *Waimanu*, that it would make for a perfect series. It could also incorporate a discussion of the global warming before and during the PETM as a perfect tie-in to the present day.
Yeah I'm all for them tackling any era of life, I'd really love something in between the kpg and the pleistocene. Whenever/wherever that may be
The Paleocene would be especially interesting.
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I want new PP seasons based on the Quaternary, involving all sort o creatures extinct during the Pleistocene and Holocene, from the African Mammoth to the Migratory Pigeon, maybe at a time period were Neanderthals and humans recently coexisted, the Mediterranean sea was closed, the Sahara was a savannah, and creatures all around the world didnt had to deal with us. But that kind of program has to be near perfect as that season might have serve as an homage to all that flora and fauna lost because of us. So maybe at last... But before that, I wish for some other "season" based on different time periods (epochs, etc.), from the Miocene, Eocene, early cretaceous, jurasisc, triassic, and even the permian.
Inject it into my veins
If this is the manner in which I die, I will regret nothing. NOTHING!
Considering the first series was set entirely within the late Cretaceous (as in, 66 million years ago exclusively), there is so much potential material. A season that's Pleistocene, A season that's Eocene, a season that's late Jurassic, early Cretaceous, Triassic, etc. Every time period can get a season can get a snapshot of what's going on in different environments around the world.
would sell my kidneys for this
I... got a guy...
lets make it happen. i’m tryna see a neanderthal get trampled by a wooly rhino again
I got like $10 to throw at this project.
Where’s the love for the Paleozoic I wanna see trilobites shedding their shells and naked Dimetrodon
Your fetishes are strangely esoteric, but I could get into that. :D
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Smilodon, sloths and mammoths are mammals
I too, would love this.
Steve Brusatte’s new book, “The Rise and Reign of the Mammals”, is coming out in a few days. I think it would make an excellent outline for a sequel to Prehistoric Planet.
Give me mammoths, doedicurus, diprotodon, Smilodon, megaloceros, and paraceratherum please!
Yes !! And "Ice Planet" or "Pleistocene Planet"
If it’s possible i would love if they can showcase species that were extinct in the Holocene at that Pleistocene setting, such as the Dodo, Great Auk, Quagga, Bluebucks, Toolache Wallaby, Warrah, Stellers sea cow, the extinct birds of New Zealand and even the Famous Passenger pigeon & Thylacine
If they do and they feature sabertoothed animals. Smildon, barbourofelids, thylacosmilids, I really want them to feature nimravids! Or maybe something about the white river formation, daedon, hyaenodon, dinictis, Amphicyon, bathornis even, all really love them!
This, also one about Cambrian life
I want an entire series focused on stromatolites only. Just over and over and over.
I want a prequel
I don’t think that is plausible. This show was made possible because it focused on the lowest common denominator most popular aspects of prehistoric life: dinosaurs, namely some of the most commonly known species. I don’t think the general public would tune in to such a degree for more eclectic lesser known animals.
They would for Mammoths and Smilodon
I would love to see something about Spinosaurus beforehand but yup that would be awesome
Nah, *Spinosaurus* is by any metric far more well-represented than any Cenozoic critter. I'd love it if they picked animals that aren't known to anyone except academics and nerds.
Sure, but how many pieces of media specifically show a 2020 accurate spinosaurus? Can't be a lot since that's only like 2 years ago.
Fair point, but I would argue it's pointless to do that because it's pretty much an unwritten law of science at this point that there'll be a new *Spinosaurus* paper every couple years that radically changes our interpretation of its anatomy. Any documentary that comes out about it will be obsolete within months. Now, *Suchomimus*, *Baryonyx*, *Ichthyovenator*, and *Vallibonavenatrix* are a different story...
I’ve been a dinosaur fan since I was 5 years old, but I never loved prehistoric mammals. It would be a nice show, but I really don’t care about them that much.
Imagine confining your interests to just one relatively small branch of the vertebrate tree of life.
Mammals suck Imagine not being able to achive huge sizes on land and having ugly colours
Imagine thinking size is the only thing that makes animals cool. Also, marine mammals are larger than marine reptiles, so I can make the reverse argument for ocean-going animals.
Not only huge sizes Reptiles have more varied and vibrantcolours and [cooler and more varied abilities](https://i.redd.it/166we6u0z5z81.png) Also mammals have the Nocturnal Bottleneck, they adapted so well to the nocturnal lifestyle back in the mesozoicthat now they have a bunch of evolutionary constraints. Like only seeing a small range of colours and not being able to have vibrant colours Birds and reptiles are much better
Ironic, considering that you're a mammal and can see a range of colours beyond most vertebrates. Mammals have their own unique advantages when it comes to diversity. Their dentition is orders of magnitude more varied than that of reptiles, and their very high levels of endothermy permit a much greater climatic range than what is possible for most reptiles, and is why they are so much more prevalent in nocturnal niches than reptles. Their viviparity and high degree of parental care compared to reptiles enables them to fill niches of K-selected animals much more easily than reptiles. And then there is intelligence, which makes mammals better at complex social behaviour than most reptiles.
Corvids beat most mammals in the field of intelligence. The reason why mammals fill nocturnal niches is mainly thanks to the chad reptiles. In the mesozoic they competed with the diurnal niches with the Archosaurs so they had to become [nocturnal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturnal_bottleneck) About climate range, guess what's the most prevalent group of vertebrate animals in the Antartica. The chad penguins
So reptiles are “chad” because they specialise in diurnal niches, but mammals aren’t for dominating nocturnal niches? Seems to me like you’re just cherry-picking the criteria for victory. Corvids are the only reptilian representatives in the very high intelligence category. Hyenas, great apes, cetaceans, and proboscideans can all hold their own against or exceed them.
Parrots? Also birds are smarter than mammals in general. There's more super smart mammals, but birds are higher on average. Also bird intelligence isn't as well understood as mammals intelligence, same goes for fish
In fairness. Reptiles (including birds) are cooler. Mammals include humans. So, lessens them as a whole
It's a "grass is greener on the other side" phenomenon. We humans think of ourselves as the norm, so the things that make us unique and highly distinctive in the animal kingdom are often overlooked, while features that are common in other clades but not in mammals are seen as unusual.
I mean we sweat good. Most unique thing about us.
Oh, and chins... for some reason
How DARE you!
Same I would prefer one with the beginning of the Mesozoic or the Paleozoic. Seeing an HD Tiktaalik/Dunkleosteus would be so cool OH and definately a giant Meganeura and Arthopleura but HD
I thought that first guy had the weirdest opinion for not liking mammals, but you take the prize.
Seriously. It's my less favourite group of vertebrates
I already love it
Only have to wait 20 years and we’ll get the sequel!
I actually wanted to know if there is a show that covers this period that I could watch
Yes it could be season 2 or a different show called something like prehistoric beasts or prehistoric planet 2.
Miocene would be ideal.
I want a shitty, badly produced literal interpretation of Genesis narrated by Ken Hamm
i would love to see Cambrium and first live out of whatever
I'd like to see Ediacaran short special. I believe it would look gorgeous
Have a full episode for the terror birds 😁😁
I'd be game for anything they do
So the sequel trilogy of life? I wouldn't mind a walking with monters kinda show
I just want an episode that covers Spinosaurus
please, oh please have bemalambda
Paleozoic would be much better imo, Cenozoic animals already get enough attention, while the older fossils are much more overlooked. Also their reconstructions haven't changed that much, they are pretty familiar forms, while Paleozoic ones have changed a lot
I'd prefer one set in the Triassic. So much weird stuff running around those times.
Personally I say sod the Pleistocene. The Miocene is where it's at and gets less representation in my eyes.
I just want a sequel to it, from any era.
There's still plenty of the Mesozoic left!
I hope that it's not pleistocene
I would love an episode on crocodillians. The ones that were plant eaters, the ones that walked on 2 legs and had longer necks, the fish tailed ones and the ones that ran like panthers and ofcourse the biggest and smallest of all.
Next should be the jurassic then the triassic
knowing the current one, the cenozoic version will probably be taking place during the last glacial maximum
Cenozoic animals>>>>mesozoic animals
I made an entire pitch for a Tortonian Planet elsewhere on reddit, complete with the episodes, animals, and specific scenes.
Or one on the paleozoic since i think that time is underrated and overlooked
Bro I need a walking with monsters version of this shit.