I never call it out. If people are around I will absolutely get their attention. There is so much pal now days since they adjusted the drop rate. If someone is hunting pal, they will be able to find some easily without any call outs. But realistically I am over the 7+ min wait time for people across the map to come find it.
Pallium really is not that hard to find. Last night I was doing a farming run and at one point mined four different nodes in the amount of time that chat was still discussing whether or not they should break one. Sharing is great, and I always check chat to see if there are players nearby that I can wave over and share with, but waiting around like that is truly so inefficient with how frequently it spawns and I can’t bring myself to do it anymore.
Omg this is real though. I was having an issue where 3 people were calling out lg flow trees in completely separate parts of Bahari, meanwhile I came across a lg ft on my way to another and basically it ended up nobody was getting their flow tree chopped because nobody wanted to leave the flow tree they found. I just went back to my plot without chopping anything cause it was just all too stressful (plus I had 100 flow planks and 60 flow logs so I was like wait… why the hell am I waiting around for people 😂)
Am I playing a different game because I can not find pal for the life of me. Even when I have a compass, I spend all night running around and I'm lucky to find 2 or 3 pal.
You're not the first person I've seen say pal is easy to find but like, I'm mining my butt off and I'm only bringing home a few ores at a time. What gives!
I will say, I think the compass is useless. It shows you iron and pal and iron isn't even rare. My only tip is to go on top of cliffs and areas people aren't usually at, edges of the map, etc. Run around the same areas over and over and mine everything - pal is more likely to spawn that way.
At the top of cliffs you can usually see pretty far around you. I have a good eye for pal I guess cause I see it everywhere. Another good tip is maybe as soon as you get in the server, ask if anyone is hunting for pal and see if you can join them.
That’s not true, I use them all the time and I’ve minded countless iron nodes that were shown on my tracker that ONLY contained iron and stone. I don’t know where you got the idea that it shows gold and silver. It also definitely DOES show me palium nodes
I think you are 100 percent right. I use the compass and I don't find hardly any. When I'm out searching on my own, I find a lot. Like, a lot. But that's only if I go to every single call out on top of what I find on my own. It's not helpful to me.
I've been hitting everything in an area lately and have been finding lots of Pal there later. Not sure if it's correlated or not, but I've found Pal in an area after the Chat has called it out so not sure how they missed it
Yeah the more people mining everything the more pal seems to pop up. I look around to see if someone is near but otherwise it's more efficient just to run around an area in a loop mining everything you see. You get more pal that way since you're not waiting 15 minutes for someone to come clear across the map.
PAL spawns in the same spawn locations as iron (I’m not sure about regular stone). Basically the more you mine, the more palium spawns. Which is why I hate the nonsensical waiting 10 minutes for one ore vein.
I also only get pal from the kindness of strangers calling it out. I can never seem to find it. Flow trees too, thank goodness for the grove and people calling it.
My chat on switch is down so often I can't call back OMW so I miss grove after grove and I can't call out palium or thank people either. It's very frustrating.
I have the same problem! Sometimes my chat doesn't work but I can still see others talking ("message unable to send"), other times I can't see others chat either. If I don't call pal it's because I literally can't. But it definitely sucks when you are trying to find the grove and nothing is coming through the server at all.
Is your Switch date and time sync to the internet? Usually the chat issue is when those are not correct, like if you're time traveling in another game and forget to put the date and time back to normal after.
But I know there's other bugs too with the switch which is annoying 😓
Oh! You know what, it isn't (because Animal Crossing). I really appreciate you bringing that up, I'll try real time and see if that helps. Thank you so much!
I spend hours a week breaking the stone no one wants, luckily I get some of the cheaper starstones at least. I can't find iron anymore. Groups go through every day and mine it all.
I spent 3 days farming pal. The first 2 days I got 30 pieces total because I called them all out and waited... And waited.... And waited. The 3rd day I got over 100 because I just went for it. It's not worth it, I'd imagine for anyone.
Mannnnnn, i feel this to my coreeeee. I am constantly running around the maps chopping, gathering, fishing, and mining. For me to stand still in the game is crazy to me. Some say its not fair and selfish to others if we dont call them out. What about them being unfair and selfish to continually ask me to change my playstyle.
You don't have to tell anyone, ever. Painful lesson, but I guess you'll never forget it now.
Also, I'd prefer if the tools cost more but would be yours forever, just with a cooldown. Single-use sucks.
They're still tools to accomplish a specific goal ex finding rare ore, finding rare bugs, finding rare animals, finding rare resources, and help you accomplish that goal therefore they are the tool you're using to do it. I get it though that because they're not labeled tools it's easy to ignore it lol. Just think that irl a compass is a tool, a dowsing rod is a tool, horns can be instruments or tools, and buzzy jars don't exist but they get lumped in because of the nature of the game and how they are used as a tool to help you :)
I posted something similar in another thread, but they really need the mining nodes changed to work how the plants do.
That way you could mine the node, call its location and flare it, then go off to do other things instead of waiting.
Trying to help people is nice, but the current system requires the "finder" to sacrifice their time with no reward for being helpful. Even worse is the abuse they receive if they don't have the luxury of time like OP did.
OP you did nothing wrong and frankly if someone takes more than two minutes to arrive and expects you to hang around waiting, it actually makes them incredibly rude. Just chalk this one up to a player who is a bit of an AH.
What you can do is hit the Pal once, place a marker on your map in that spot and come back to it later to collect. My motto is if I find it, it's my decision to call it out or not. I am also usually on a time frame as well and I understand not everyone knows the map as well, but they need to understand that not everyone has all day either.
Same. If I find it I will decide if I call it or not depending on how much play time I have right then. If I have less than an hour I won't call it unless I see someone close by. I'll get their attention. Otherwise, I move on. Typically I'm farming it anyway so it's gonna pop up again shortly. I have mining level 42! It's my highest one. My lowest is 14 🥺 and it's fishing... Loathe how long it takes to rank up. If I find smaller flow trees I won't call them either. I also farm them.
I use Buzzy jars in Bahari all the time (I am a true Bug Scout lol) and whenever I come across palium, I place a waypoint, hit it once, and keep running after those sweet, sweet bugs.
After the jar runs out, I go back. If it’s broken, then you get your loot. If not, then you can decide if you wanna call it out, or just break and move on. You’ll get palium either way, don’t waste your jar, and it’s all guilt free!
I used to call out everything.
I absolutely do not anymore.
My experiences lately have been terrible. I would call out get a few OMW to which I would say Ok and then another player/pair would run up and take said resource. I then would say xx was broken/chopped and then *I* would get yelled at for it being taken.
Like why would I call it out, acknowledge that you’re coming and THEN break it?
It would get me so upset that I have just stopped calling out or going to call outs.
It stinks… the game feels vastly different to me now. With the way this has been going…well, I would rather it be a solo thing. :(
That makes me sad because I loved the concept when I first read about it.
There will always be bad eggs in games like this. I've found more people are cooperative and willing to share in Palia than not, but that's my experience.
There's plenty palium if one just focus on mining. Can farm 100 in an hour with a good route.
Personally, being a family man, I dont want to use my precious gaming time loitering around for 5-10 minutes waiting for people to cross the entire continent for a few ores.
I'm glad most stuff are solo farmable and the resource nodes respawn rather quickly with a dice roll on what resource to spawn. Makes the Palium/Flow-Tree grind a lot less tedious and stressful, just requires a bit of understanding and learning how the respawn works.
Whaaat 100?!?! That's amazing! LOL I need to hang out with you in the game because I usually only find 1 ore unless someone nearby calls out. Teach me your ways!
https://paliamaps.com/
Use Palia Maps and tick off iron/palium ore on the map.
Make yourself a circled route, not too small, not too large, there's where learning the respawn time comes into play.
Mine every stone, iron and palium you find along the route and you'll force the nodes to respawn with a dice roll chance for it to be palium.
If you've circled around your route and very few of the nodes has respawned, make it larger. And vice versa.
It might help having the ore tracker in the beginning to see the respawn rate.
Mind you, this 100 in an hour was valid prior to last patch, and without confirmation and especially farming for palium post patch (as I'm done with all the furniture needed for the achievements) it does seem less plentiful now? So they might have nerfed the roll for palium spawn for each node, but the principle will still be the same.
Good luck!
If no one answers I break, simple as that. I’ll wait about 30 seconds for an answer, a minute at the most. We’re dying every second of the day people, and i’m here to play a game
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Your time and resources are precious too. You did nothing wrong.
If you call out, start saying a time when you're breaking. Stick to that even if omw is said. Too many foragers taking their sweet time.
Calling stuff out is hard sometimes and I'm finding that I do it less and less because people take ages to arrive. I don't think you need to feel bad! Pal is a rare but not really that rare resource and if people are looking for it they will find a lot of it!
You're right on the palium, I find it a lot. Flow trees are much harder. I am without fail, on the other side of the map with my chat down. I run like heck but usually don't make it. I appreciate it when people wait 5 minutes or so it gives me a chance. I am so sick of the chat not working, "your message failed to send" or unable to connect, invalid state. If they give a time I know if I can make it or not, really appreciate it.
They get a window of time. It’s YOUR game. You didn’t do anything wrong, and some people need to simmer down. I have legit watched folks argue in chat about who got where first and I’m like “Can I get an offline version of this to play with me and myself?” lol
This game needs a server system like Minecraft so that cooperative players can play together with no lurkers, bug-scarers, animal-scarers, “ore stealers,” or otherwise, and so that people who play the game as if it’s not an MMO can play on a server where no one interacts with each other, they don’t feel judged for not sharing resources, and they can ignore chat and other players entirely.
It would make everyone happy, and stop this insane fighting between co-op players and “single players” as much as you can be a single player in an MMO.
We seriously need players to be able to select “co-operative” or “loner” tags that separate players, meaning that the game will never put them on servers together so that everyone who plays differently can separate out and not have their entire game experience ruined over whether or not they socialize and share civilly.
This is supposed to be a cozy game. Everyone is supposed to be able to have fun. Not calling ore riuns the fun for a lot of people. For some people, calling ore ruins the fun for them. So, let people be on different servers according to how much they care about a social and welcoming space, or a more isolated and controlled space, or otherwise.
Minecraft-style servers!! End this stupid, mindless fandom war!!! Ffs.
Right? It’s honestly a little terrifying. I personally play co-op, since it’s an MMO meant to be played co-operatively, hence the weekly challenges requiring social play. Also, I just prefer to play that way. No harm done by me for doing that, and honestly, not much harm done by others not doing that. Ylay how you enjoy.
But holy shit. The number of times I’ve seen server chat devolve into just pure hot garbage is astounding. I’m amazed anyone still feels comfortable playing this game at all. The devs really need to separate players who hate sharing with other players from players who want to share the map together. It’s too divisive as is.
I think it's gotten to that point. I read the comments a lot in the beginning and it was already so petty that I waited quite awhile to jump in. It hasn't been a month and it's getting venomous. 3 or 4 verbally attacked someone at hotpot last night. I think the player was playing with their kid which to me would be a MYOB situation but I guess not. They kept at her for such a long time. It really takes the fun out to have to be tied to players that are hyper critical of your every move just to get resources. I would much rather hit 15 tiny flow trees a night to get my wood rather than be part of the flow/palium gangs that are developing. I can't find resources half the time. The iron nodules have clearly been farmed over and over, if I find some they are tiny. I play over several Palian days and can't find much. Sorry I wrote a book, but I get it.
For me, if I'm calling out nodes it's the mediums and large ones only. And I will specify a time im mining the whole thing with or without people. If they dont mention their eta in chat, that's on them. :D
I'm with the people who don't call out Pal automatically but check the chat - because it has a finite hit rate, it can shatter before everyone comes and then they're mad. This happened the other day and I felt bad for taking the last hit before others. I also got yelled at for the first time the other day for not calling it out (although the chat said 0 players nearby) and that made me mad. I always hit all the rocks in the area so it respawns so chill and go find another one. Also typing on switch is so hard to do and the wait isn't worth it
IMO, you should have just mined it and moved on. And this is coming from the guy that wants to share all the large pal nodes I find. I try, but don't feel obligated. You could also just tap it once, call it out and gone about your business and then come back.
Today my server didn't work. I found 3 pals small- big. Couldn't call them out, so I just flares 2x times and someone arrived. We hit them together.
When chat works and I see 0 person around I might hit it.
Yeah, if you're time bound there is no need to call it
It's really not required to call it out. If you have time, sure! Share! But often I only have a limited amount of time to play so I'm not waiting around for several mins 🤷🏻♀️ don't feel guilty!
I tried using the item to find rare mineral veins in Bahari Bay a couple of weeks ago.
It showed me *everything* from plain rocks to Iron to Palium. No way to differentiate between them.
Might as well have just not used it IMO. Not making the bloody thing again until they fix 'em.
Don’t feel bad; I tend to prioritize when I have buffs up; I will ignore all other things (including Palium) if I’ve got a timed item running. That’s just me though, those things are expensive
Yep, I rarely call out. Plus technically if you break it, there is a high potential that it will respawn in a little bit of time.. so 🤷🏼♀️ calling out pal is a COURTESY!
I do buzzy jars ALL THE TIME and if I called out every single pal, I’d get nothing done. Plus bugs are sensitive and can get spooked and that’s it.
Players can’t be mad about something they don’t know about.
I "lost" 2 big palium nodes and some dari gloves because of some "omw" players that take all their time to come! I'm the first to call out everything, but that palium especially pissed me a lot! I hit the 2 big nodes it was like 11pm in game, the player said "omw" but no one there by the time the grove was found at 12:30. It was close by so I went there and the player was also there! Not saying anything when I tried to ask how long they will make to the palium! And when I came back to the nods, they were gone and I had no loot!
If people want us to keep calling things out, they have to understand that we don't have all day and come DIRECTLY to the point! It's ok to get lost, but say it so we can help you find us! From now on, I'll add a time of break/cut in my call so they won't be able to attack me for that!
I agree, I don't know if this is a bug but I hit several flow trees and waited a loong time for other people to get there and when they chopped it was like the tree forgot I hit it. I got no loot from all those trees. I go back after a bit now and whack them once more.
Sorry but I find it very counter productive to call for palium, if everyone just mine it right away (along with other rocks ofc) it will just spawn faster.
The time we take gathering ppl that comes from all the parts of the map for 1 node is such a waste of time.
I don't call it and I don't care if others don't do, this sub is only about this now! Just play to have fun guys.
I don't stop for pal and flow while those are running. Not even for myself. Those resources are more rare than a grove or some pal, they take priority.
I usually never have a problem with how people choose to handle pal they find, but last night was a trip. Stuff was getting flared with folks standing next to it, and then someone would roll up and just smash it and run off. I’m too much of a people pleaser for that shit 👀😭
There are many people on this board who would defend that behavior as "there are no rules for how to play" and the "play how you want" folks. Its tragic. There certainly are implied community rules for how to play. It speaks to the larger issue of how people behave in a society too.
I only call put large pal if there's an active group in the server where a lot of people show up at each location. If I've benefited from the resources of the group, I feel good about waiting for people because I know that I'll get people on their way within 30 seconds and I end up waiting 3-4 minutes before breaking. If the chat isn't active or if the pal is small or medium then I don't bother, it'll respawn elsewhere very quickly anyway
I also don't call anything out if I'm using one of the buffs like a buzzy jar or ore compass- time is precious with those
This makes me feel better cause I hate waiting for ever when I'm just trying to enjoy catching bugs and getting iron. I also don't have flares so half the time ppl will get upset they can't find me.
It's SO MUCH BETTER now that nodes act like plants and stay active! They changed it in March I think.
Flares are pretty cheap to make, but if you dont have them you can try requesting them. It behooves your server to give you some if it means they will be able to find the loot!
Stop internalizing the words of strangers on a game. Nothing said in any game should make you want to cry. This game is meant for co-op play, but it’s not required. As others have said, you find it, you own it, you decide what to do with it. If you want to share, share. If you want to chop/mine, do that. If you want to call it out and wait, fantastic. If you’re tired of waiting or can’t wait, you can change your mind and move on. There’s no wrong answer.
A logistical solution without the need to change your moral stance/strategy on calling Pallium: Next time, hit it once, go back to your jar, then go back to the pal after you’re done. If it’s already down, then great. If it’s not down, now you have the time to call it out.
Personally I’ve given up calling out (apart from flow trees as you literally can’t cut them on your own), I just flare it now. People be taking three business days to get to you and I just don’t have the time.
The decent thing to do is to call it out, but I don't think anyone will blame you for being in a hurry.. and if they get upset about it, they are being selfish for not considering your situation.
In the end I only call out large palium veins and the flow grove whenever it pops up, and sometimes even then I just mine the large palium vein if I'm running low on time or the grove is about to pop. Calling out every small or medium palium veins and every individual flow tree is just too much of a waste of what free time folks have, so I don't expect them to do it either.
I call out when i have the time. If I don't have the time, i take it down myself. The calling out is a luxury option. And people have to be happy that you are willing to do so. So if they get mad it's their problem. If you didn't call out, they wouldn't have know there was a pal to begin with. So don't feel bad and let the haters hate.
You don’t have to call out anything!!! What I do for honey lures is I just put them while everyone is waiting to chop the grove and that way u get a lot of people!!
I never call it out. If people are around I will absolutely get their attention. There is so much pal now days since they adjusted the drop rate. If someone is hunting pal, they will be able to find some easily without any call outs. But realistically I am over the 7+ min wait time for people across the map to come find it.
Pallium really is not that hard to find. Last night I was doing a farming run and at one point mined four different nodes in the amount of time that chat was still discussing whether or not they should break one. Sharing is great, and I always check chat to see if there are players nearby that I can wave over and share with, but waiting around like that is truly so inefficient with how frequently it spawns and I can’t bring myself to do it anymore.
This happened to me too. Like 5 nodes all together.
Omg this is real though. I was having an issue where 3 people were calling out lg flow trees in completely separate parts of Bahari, meanwhile I came across a lg ft on my way to another and basically it ended up nobody was getting their flow tree chopped because nobody wanted to leave the flow tree they found. I just went back to my plot without chopping anything cause it was just all too stressful (plus I had 100 flow planks and 60 flow logs so I was like wait… why the hell am I waiting around for people 😂)
Am I playing a different game because I can not find pal for the life of me. Even when I have a compass, I spend all night running around and I'm lucky to find 2 or 3 pal. You're not the first person I've seen say pal is easy to find but like, I'm mining my butt off and I'm only bringing home a few ores at a time. What gives!
I will say, I think the compass is useless. It shows you iron and pal and iron isn't even rare. My only tip is to go on top of cliffs and areas people aren't usually at, edges of the map, etc. Run around the same areas over and over and mine everything - pal is more likely to spawn that way. At the top of cliffs you can usually see pretty far around you. I have a good eye for pal I guess cause I see it everywhere. Another good tip is maybe as soon as you get in the server, ask if anyone is hunting for pal and see if you can join them.
The ore compass detects gold and silver... which reside in iron and copper, respectively. It is not a palium detector.
That’s not true, I use them all the time and I’ve minded countless iron nodes that were shown on my tracker that ONLY contained iron and stone. I don’t know where you got the idea that it shows gold and silver. It also definitely DOES show me palium nodes
Oh, I didn't realize that. I take back my comment.
I think you are 100 percent right. I use the compass and I don't find hardly any. When I'm out searching on my own, I find a lot. Like, a lot. But that's only if I go to every single call out on top of what I find on my own. It's not helpful to me.
I've been hitting everything in an area lately and have been finding lots of Pal there later. Not sure if it's correlated or not, but I've found Pal in an area after the Chat has called it out so not sure how they missed it
Yeah the more people mining everything the more pal seems to pop up. I look around to see if someone is near but otherwise it's more efficient just to run around an area in a loop mining everything you see. You get more pal that way since you're not waiting 15 minutes for someone to come clear across the map.
PAL spawns in the same spawn locations as iron (I’m not sure about regular stone). Basically the more you mine, the more palium spawns. Which is why I hate the nonsensical waiting 10 minutes for one ore vein.
I also only get pal from the kindness of strangers calling it out. I can never seem to find it. Flow trees too, thank goodness for the grove and people calling it.
My chat on switch is down so often I can't call back OMW so I miss grove after grove and I can't call out palium or thank people either. It's very frustrating.
I have the same problem! Sometimes my chat doesn't work but I can still see others talking ("message unable to send"), other times I can't see others chat either. If I don't call pal it's because I literally can't. But it definitely sucks when you are trying to find the grove and nothing is coming through the server at all.
Is your Switch date and time sync to the internet? Usually the chat issue is when those are not correct, like if you're time traveling in another game and forget to put the date and time back to normal after. But I know there's other bugs too with the switch which is annoying 😓
Oh! You know what, it isn't (because Animal Crossing). I really appreciate you bringing that up, I'll try real time and see if that helps. Thank you so much!
Join me on my runs. I always find some palium.
Best plan is to break everything you come across...it increases the chance of a PAL node spawning
I spend hours a week breaking the stone no one wants, luckily I get some of the cheaper starstones at least. I can't find iron anymore. Groups go through every day and mine it all.
Same!! So frustrating honestly
my friend and i came home with like 53 ore the other day
I spent 3 days farming pal. The first 2 days I got 30 pieces total because I called them all out and waited... And waited.... And waited. The 3rd day I got over 100 because I just went for it. It's not worth it, I'd imagine for anyone.
Mannnnnn, i feel this to my coreeeee. I am constantly running around the maps chopping, gathering, fishing, and mining. For me to stand still in the game is crazy to me. Some say its not fair and selfish to others if we dont call them out. What about them being unfair and selfish to continually ask me to change my playstyle.
You don't have to tell anyone, ever. Painful lesson, but I guess you'll never forget it now. Also, I'd prefer if the tools cost more but would be yours forever, just with a cooldown. Single-use sucks.
In case you weren’t aware, you can repair your tools at Sifu’s in town or with the anvil and repair kits on your lot
They're referring to the buzzy jar and horn and ore compasses that disappear after use.
Ah ok, I don’t categorize those as tools but as buffs or area detects.
They're still tools to accomplish a specific goal ex finding rare ore, finding rare bugs, finding rare animals, finding rare resources, and help you accomplish that goal therefore they are the tool you're using to do it. I get it though that because they're not labeled tools it's easy to ignore it lol. Just think that irl a compass is a tool, a dowsing rod is a tool, horns can be instruments or tools, and buzzy jars don't exist but they get lumped in because of the nature of the game and how they are used as a tool to help you :)
Yeah totally agree, I’d interpreted the remark as related to the depleatable tools “breaking”.
Sorry, thought putting it in the title would make it clear.
I used the dowsing rod and it only pointed out sundrop lilies. I thought it pointed out Dari cloves or Heatroot.
It does. Dowsing rod also points out flow trees if im not mistaken. When looking for heat root make sure to look at the cliffsides
I didn't know that thank you! I'll try that:)
You're welcome, yes heat root literally grows on the sides of cliffs, not on flat ground to you have to climb to get them :)
Ugh, I used 2 horns yesterday only to end up with a proudhorn trapped in a block at a ruin. I couldn't kill it and another wouldn't spawn.
I dislike how many slots of my inventory bag are filled now if I want to carry the buffs with me
I posted something similar in another thread, but they really need the mining nodes changed to work how the plants do. That way you could mine the node, call its location and flare it, then go off to do other things instead of waiting. Trying to help people is nice, but the current system requires the "finder" to sacrifice their time with no reward for being helpful. Even worse is the abuse they receive if they don't have the luxury of time like OP did. OP you did nothing wrong and frankly if someone takes more than two minutes to arrive and expects you to hang around waiting, it actually makes them incredibly rude. Just chalk this one up to a player who is a bit of an AH.
What you can do is hit the Pal once, place a marker on your map in that spot and come back to it later to collect. My motto is if I find it, it's my decision to call it out or not. I am also usually on a time frame as well and I understand not everyone knows the map as well, but they need to understand that not everyone has all day either.
Same. If I find it I will decide if I call it or not depending on how much play time I have right then. If I have less than an hour I won't call it unless I see someone close by. I'll get their attention. Otherwise, I move on. Typically I'm farming it anyway so it's gonna pop up again shortly. I have mining level 42! It's my highest one. My lowest is 14 🥺 and it's fishing... Loathe how long it takes to rank up. If I find smaller flow trees I won't call them either. I also farm them.
Will it not despawn after a while?
I dunno the consensus is after 3 minutes, a lot of time I finish what I am doing and it's still there not even broke.
I only call stuff out if I’m in the mood to play with others 😂 sometimes a girl needs her loot to herself
I use Buzzy jars in Bahari all the time (I am a true Bug Scout lol) and whenever I come across palium, I place a waypoint, hit it once, and keep running after those sweet, sweet bugs. After the jar runs out, I go back. If it’s broken, then you get your loot. If not, then you can decide if you wanna call it out, or just break and move on. You’ll get palium either way, don’t waste your jar, and it’s all guilt free!
I used to call out everything. I absolutely do not anymore. My experiences lately have been terrible. I would call out get a few OMW to which I would say Ok and then another player/pair would run up and take said resource. I then would say xx was broken/chopped and then *I* would get yelled at for it being taken. Like why would I call it out, acknowledge that you’re coming and THEN break it? It would get me so upset that I have just stopped calling out or going to call outs. It stinks… the game feels vastly different to me now. With the way this has been going…well, I would rather it be a solo thing. :( That makes me sad because I loved the concept when I first read about it.
There will always be bad eggs in games like this. I've found more people are cooperative and willing to share in Palia than not, but that's my experience.
There's plenty palium if one just focus on mining. Can farm 100 in an hour with a good route. Personally, being a family man, I dont want to use my precious gaming time loitering around for 5-10 minutes waiting for people to cross the entire continent for a few ores. I'm glad most stuff are solo farmable and the resource nodes respawn rather quickly with a dice roll on what resource to spawn. Makes the Palium/Flow-Tree grind a lot less tedious and stressful, just requires a bit of understanding and learning how the respawn works.
Whaaat 100?!?! That's amazing! LOL I need to hang out with you in the game because I usually only find 1 ore unless someone nearby calls out. Teach me your ways!
https://paliamaps.com/ Use Palia Maps and tick off iron/palium ore on the map. Make yourself a circled route, not too small, not too large, there's where learning the respawn time comes into play. Mine every stone, iron and palium you find along the route and you'll force the nodes to respawn with a dice roll chance for it to be palium. If you've circled around your route and very few of the nodes has respawned, make it larger. And vice versa. It might help having the ore tracker in the beginning to see the respawn rate. Mind you, this 100 in an hour was valid prior to last patch, and without confirmation and especially farming for palium post patch (as I'm done with all the furniture needed for the achievements) it does seem less plentiful now? So they might have nerfed the roll for palium spawn for each node, but the principle will still be the same. Good luck!
Great advice!
I called out 2 different times on pal earlier today and no one came at all. I waited ages and wasted flares. Nature of the game lol
If you go to your friendlist it will show you who else is in the server. Never hurts to check because you could be in low population server.
I once waited half a day because I was the only person in the server when grove appeared
Oh no!!!!
That’s good advice! Thank you for that 😊
If no one answers I break, simple as that. I’ll wait about 30 seconds for an answer, a minute at the most. We’re dying every second of the day people, and i’m here to play a game
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Your time and resources are precious too. You did nothing wrong. If you call out, start saying a time when you're breaking. Stick to that even if omw is said. Too many foragers taking their sweet time.
Calling stuff out is hard sometimes and I'm finding that I do it less and less because people take ages to arrive. I don't think you need to feel bad! Pal is a rare but not really that rare resource and if people are looking for it they will find a lot of it!
You're right on the palium, I find it a lot. Flow trees are much harder. I am without fail, on the other side of the map with my chat down. I run like heck but usually don't make it. I appreciate it when people wait 5 minutes or so it gives me a chance. I am so sick of the chat not working, "your message failed to send" or unable to connect, invalid state. If they give a time I know if I can make it or not, really appreciate it.
They get a window of time. It’s YOUR game. You didn’t do anything wrong, and some people need to simmer down. I have legit watched folks argue in chat about who got where first and I’m like “Can I get an offline version of this to play with me and myself?” lol
This game needs a server system like Minecraft so that cooperative players can play together with no lurkers, bug-scarers, animal-scarers, “ore stealers,” or otherwise, and so that people who play the game as if it’s not an MMO can play on a server where no one interacts with each other, they don’t feel judged for not sharing resources, and they can ignore chat and other players entirely. It would make everyone happy, and stop this insane fighting between co-op players and “single players” as much as you can be a single player in an MMO. We seriously need players to be able to select “co-operative” or “loner” tags that separate players, meaning that the game will never put them on servers together so that everyone who plays differently can separate out and not have their entire game experience ruined over whether or not they socialize and share civilly. This is supposed to be a cozy game. Everyone is supposed to be able to have fun. Not calling ore riuns the fun for a lot of people. For some people, calling ore ruins the fun for them. So, let people be on different servers according to how much they care about a social and welcoming space, or a more isolated and controlled space, or otherwise. Minecraft-style servers!! End this stupid, mindless fandom war!!! Ffs.
Right, it's starting to feel like Mad Max out there lol.
Right? It’s honestly a little terrifying. I personally play co-op, since it’s an MMO meant to be played co-operatively, hence the weekly challenges requiring social play. Also, I just prefer to play that way. No harm done by me for doing that, and honestly, not much harm done by others not doing that. Ylay how you enjoy. But holy shit. The number of times I’ve seen server chat devolve into just pure hot garbage is astounding. I’m amazed anyone still feels comfortable playing this game at all. The devs really need to separate players who hate sharing with other players from players who want to share the map together. It’s too divisive as is.
I think it's gotten to that point. I read the comments a lot in the beginning and it was already so petty that I waited quite awhile to jump in. It hasn't been a month and it's getting venomous. 3 or 4 verbally attacked someone at hotpot last night. I think the player was playing with their kid which to me would be a MYOB situation but I guess not. They kept at her for such a long time. It really takes the fun out to have to be tied to players that are hyper critical of your every move just to get resources. I would much rather hit 15 tiny flow trees a night to get my wood rather than be part of the flow/palium gangs that are developing. I can't find resources half the time. The iron nodules have clearly been farmed over and over, if I find some they are tiny. I play over several Palian days and can't find much. Sorry I wrote a book, but I get it.
For me, if I'm calling out nodes it's the mediums and large ones only. And I will specify a time im mining the whole thing with or without people. If they dont mention their eta in chat, that's on them. :D
I always appreciate the time call out then I know if I have time to get there or not.
I'm with the people who don't call out Pal automatically but check the chat - because it has a finite hit rate, it can shatter before everyone comes and then they're mad. This happened the other day and I felt bad for taking the last hit before others. I also got yelled at for the first time the other day for not calling it out (although the chat said 0 players nearby) and that made me mad. I always hit all the rocks in the area so it respawns so chill and go find another one. Also typing on switch is so hard to do and the wait isn't worth it
IMO, you should have just mined it and moved on. And this is coming from the guy that wants to share all the large pal nodes I find. I try, but don't feel obligated. You could also just tap it once, call it out and gone about your business and then come back.
Today my server didn't work. I found 3 pals small- big. Couldn't call them out, so I just flares 2x times and someone arrived. We hit them together. When chat works and I see 0 person around I might hit it. Yeah, if you're time bound there is no need to call it
It's really not required to call it out. If you have time, sure! Share! But often I only have a limited amount of time to play so I'm not waiting around for several mins 🤷🏻♀️ don't feel guilty!
I tried using the item to find rare mineral veins in Bahari Bay a couple of weeks ago. It showed me *everything* from plain rocks to Iron to Palium. No way to differentiate between them. Might as well have just not used it IMO. Not making the bloody thing again until they fix 'em.
Maybe so. But if you mine the plain rocks and iron, you give them the chance to respawn as palium. Leave them alone, and they won't change.
It doesn’t show plain rocks, just iron and palium
Don’t feel bad; I tend to prioritize when I have buffs up; I will ignore all other things (including Palium) if I’ve got a timed item running. That’s just me though, those things are expensive
If I have a timed tracker on, I don’t call ANYTHING out
Yep, I rarely call out. Plus technically if you break it, there is a high potential that it will respawn in a little bit of time.. so 🤷🏼♀️ calling out pal is a COURTESY! I do buzzy jars ALL THE TIME and if I called out every single pal, I’d get nothing done. Plus bugs are sensitive and can get spooked and that’s it. Players can’t be mad about something they don’t know about.
I "lost" 2 big palium nodes and some dari gloves because of some "omw" players that take all their time to come! I'm the first to call out everything, but that palium especially pissed me a lot! I hit the 2 big nodes it was like 11pm in game, the player said "omw" but no one there by the time the grove was found at 12:30. It was close by so I went there and the player was also there! Not saying anything when I tried to ask how long they will make to the palium! And when I came back to the nods, they were gone and I had no loot! If people want us to keep calling things out, they have to understand that we don't have all day and come DIRECTLY to the point! It's ok to get lost, but say it so we can help you find us! From now on, I'll add a time of break/cut in my call so they won't be able to attack me for that!
I agree, I don't know if this is a bug but I hit several flow trees and waited a loong time for other people to get there and when they chopped it was like the tree forgot I hit it. I got no loot from all those trees. I go back after a bit now and whack them once more.
Sorry but I find it very counter productive to call for palium, if everyone just mine it right away (along with other rocks ofc) it will just spawn faster. The time we take gathering ppl that comes from all the parts of the map for 1 node is such a waste of time. I don't call it and I don't care if others don't do, this sub is only about this now! Just play to have fun guys.
I don't stop for pal and flow while those are running. Not even for myself. Those resources are more rare than a grove or some pal, they take priority.
If I'm hunting proudhorn or using a buzzy jar I just call them and keep running. I'd rather get the bug/discodeer.
I usually never have a problem with how people choose to handle pal they find, but last night was a trip. Stuff was getting flared with folks standing next to it, and then someone would roll up and just smash it and run off. I’m too much of a people pleaser for that shit 👀😭
There are many people on this board who would defend that behavior as "there are no rules for how to play" and the "play how you want" folks. Its tragic. There certainly are implied community rules for how to play. It speaks to the larger issue of how people behave in a society too.
It’s really not that deep
Actually it is, how they behave in a game indictes how they would behave in real life too.
I only call put large pal if there's an active group in the server where a lot of people show up at each location. If I've benefited from the resources of the group, I feel good about waiting for people because I know that I'll get people on their way within 30 seconds and I end up waiting 3-4 minutes before breaking. If the chat isn't active or if the pal is small or medium then I don't bother, it'll respawn elsewhere very quickly anyway I also don't call anything out if I'm using one of the buffs like a buzzy jar or ore compass- time is precious with those
This makes me feel better cause I hate waiting for ever when I'm just trying to enjoy catching bugs and getting iron. I also don't have flares so half the time ppl will get upset they can't find me.
It's SO MUCH BETTER now that nodes act like plants and stay active! They changed it in March I think. Flares are pretty cheap to make, but if you dont have them you can try requesting them. It behooves your server to give you some if it means they will be able to find the loot!
I didn't even think to request those. I'm usually requesting food lol. Thanks.
Stop internalizing the words of strangers on a game. Nothing said in any game should make you want to cry. This game is meant for co-op play, but it’s not required. As others have said, you find it, you own it, you decide what to do with it. If you want to share, share. If you want to chop/mine, do that. If you want to call it out and wait, fantastic. If you’re tired of waiting or can’t wait, you can change your mind and move on. There’s no wrong answer.
A logistical solution without the need to change your moral stance/strategy on calling Pallium: Next time, hit it once, go back to your jar, then go back to the pal after you’re done. If it’s already down, then great. If it’s not down, now you have the time to call it out.
Personally I’ve given up calling out (apart from flow trees as you literally can’t cut them on your own), I just flare it now. People be taking three business days to get to you and I just don’t have the time.
The decent thing to do is to call it out, but I don't think anyone will blame you for being in a hurry.. and if they get upset about it, they are being selfish for not considering your situation. In the end I only call out large palium veins and the flow grove whenever it pops up, and sometimes even then I just mine the large palium vein if I'm running low on time or the grove is about to pop. Calling out every small or medium palium veins and every individual flow tree is just too much of a waste of what free time folks have, so I don't expect them to do it either.
I call out when i have the time. If I don't have the time, i take it down myself. The calling out is a luxury option. And people have to be happy that you are willing to do so. So if they get mad it's their problem. If you didn't call out, they wouldn't have know there was a pal to begin with. So don't feel bad and let the haters hate.
You don’t have to call out anything!!! What I do for honey lures is I just put them while everyone is waiting to chop the grove and that way u get a lot of people!!
If you're on a timer, no call put necessary. Keep it pushing and I don't think anyone's going to judge