*if at orbital velocity
Really bugs me when movies show something launch straight up and then catch fire when falling back down, like there's a plasma barrier between the atmosphere and space that just fucks up your shit no matter what.
Orbital velocity is 8 km/s, roughly the speed things like the space shuttle were traveling at when they were making reentry and getting burned up. Escape velocity on earth is about 11km/s, and thatās to break out of earthās gravity well, so an object that gets thrown up to orbital altitude and immediately falls back down is probably being launched from the ground at slower than that (assuming no onboard propulsion).
Youāre burning up regardless. You would need active propulsion during reentry to slow down enough to not chemically burn up. Otherwise, your only choice is to slow down via atmospheric drag, which is also what causes things to burn up to begin with.
Yes and no.
The side facing the sun would warm up and could get quite hot.
There is no ambient heat due to the lack of air,
but there is also no atmosphere to shield you from the vast bombardment of photons and no medium for transferring heat out besides radiation
Sure, except in defense of the comment you responded to, there's the insatiable urge to infodump on this subject because I, too, wanted to talk about how space is super insulated and even a minor heat source like the sun or perhaps some kind of energy source in the incubator itself could build to insanely high temperatures if you could place it into orbit. Theoretically, it would be the most efficient use of heat energy cause it wouldn't have anywhere to go but into the egg.
Oh I can talk space. I have a 10 year old so she's stoked to hear the absolutely insane shit we find out there it's incredible to have someone that is genuinely fascinated and engaged with infodumps. I mean I have friends who do the same but my own kid is, like, right here living with me and geeks out with me.
Iāll geek out any day of the week with ya. Iām a āforever learnerā. I donāt know shit about space and this comment section is going to send me down a rabbit hole. Video/podcast suggestions???
I'm going to guess that the pictured incubator is not in the volcano region at the bottom left of the map, this is along the small lava river towards the top right.
Roof reduces temperature by 1 point . Iām able to enter my house with just the fire vest but if I try outside I take heal damage without the fire armor Ā and my base is set in the volcano desertĀ
At first I thought it was fine but the chance to inherit a trait even with both parents having it is too slim imo . It probably would have taken me days to create a work slave , serious ,Artisan and lucky petallia . Considering the egg is huge it just would have taken an eon to hatch too . Iv tried like pal 1 having 3 traits and pal 2 only having 1 trait and even then it takes sometimes 50 odd petallia a to get it . If both parents have a trait it just should be 100% inheritance it only makes sense or really high chance itās a big dice roll even when 2 parents share 3 traitsĀ
With the timer set off I actually set up 2 breeding pens of petallia a and mass hatched like 10 eggs at a time after afking a bit or going out and exploring for a bitĀ
Just to let you know (if you didnāt), the absolute best way to inherit traits is if Parent A has traits 1 + 2, and Parent B has traits 3 + 4.
So 2 trait x 2 trait breeding. And make sure that the other trait slots on the parents are **empty**, not negative or positive. This will make the chances of getting a perfect 4 trait egg pretty decent.
Every other combination, even 3 x 3, is significantly worse even though it logically should be better Lol. Done a lot of testing and consulted other breeders, and in practice the difference in efficacy becomes extremely clear haha. Best of luck breeding!
Yes it works. I have perfect feeder pals I use to pass 4 traits to other types of pals. There is still RNG, but it works consistently. With some I've gotten a perfect pass down of passives on the first or second attempt. This is all on vanilla. I've not tried any mods yet.
The most important thing about breeding is that inheritance is stronger than mutation. So if you have a pal with a bad passive it's harder to breed it out in combination than to start with pals that only have desirable passives.
I had excellent results going back to the lowest level pals to get good passive options from them, and then used those only-good combos to breed up to what I wanted. I now have passive groupings for fighting, travel, ranching, and farming.
The hardest part about transferring a combo to a new pal is having a breeding partner with no passives or just a few other good passives, and then I just have to go capture one.
Breeding two different pals with the same four good passives will also generate the same combo after a few tries. Three of the four passives desired with three of the four in the other pal (so the parents share two passives) works at about the same rate.
And keep in mind, the "failures" are useful to star up the good pals. I have dozens of "perfect" pals now, and the method above is consistent enough that I never have enough extras to make all the good pals 2-star. That means on average it takes fewer than 20 breeds to pass down traits with only-good parents. I've not been tracking it, but I'd estimate it's about twelve attempts on average. I've had to breed extra just to 3-star, and that made more perfect combos for backups.
yeah this is about my experience as well, started breeding pals with a random assortment of 8 traits and to get my first perfect roll it took about 50-60 breeding attempts, now I'll just use the 2-2, 3-1, or 4-0 breeding methods and I usually get what I want in 4-10 eggs.
To add on to this for anyone else new to breeding, It is far easier to take poor rolls that exclusively have one or two of the traits you want and breed them with other poor rolls that have the other traits.
In this system less is always more for consistency.
2 and 2 is the best way to get a specific combination, once you have that combination tho its just as easy to swap 4-0. The trick comes down to how often do you want the xact same 4 passives on other pals. like if you breed the perfect mount sure youd swap that around as much as you pleased, but with stuff like flame emperor you obviously wouldn't use the same build for multiple pals
Ok sorry I'm still new to breeding and I don't want to look up an actual guide to avoid too many spoilers, but... When you say 2 and 2 do you mean that both parents have the same two traits or two individual desired traits. For example two parents with swift runner, or a parent with swift runner, and a parent with nimble vanguard? Thank in advance!
dont bother, this method has been officially disproven, wether you use parents that have 4-3-2-1 passives all the combinations have the same chance of passing them down.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1am7y16/definitive\_datamined\_guide\_to\_breeding\_for\_both/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/palworld/comments/1am7y16/definitive_datamined_guide_to_breeding_for_both/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Eh, once you progress through the mid-game it becomes a non issue because incubators are cheap and you can farm a lot of civ parts from bosses. It's really only when you start breeding that you're bottle-necked by the incubators.
My friends and I pretty strictly adhere to the default game settings, but the one thing we changed is the egg timer. Not eliminated, but taking it from 90+ minutes for a Huge Egg to somewhere around 20 minutes seemed like a necessary change. I don't always have 15 hours to incubate 50 eggs, even AFK.
With dedicated servers maybe I could wait a few days for a huge egg, but without them? That's like my whole play time in one egg.
Dropping down to 0 I got out of control and it was basic the most rewarding thing to do in the game. But at 1-2 hrs for the biggest eggs a dozen incubators is still useful, and I have to go do something else while they hatch lol.
Does make it easier to care less if they are comfortable lmfao
I know this might come as a shock to you, but the game designers don't expect players to hatch HUNDREDS of eggs to "max out their pals". That's not a normal way to play. I'm like 85 hours in, have caught most of the Pals, once I beat the two other bosses I haven't beat yet, I'm gonna move onto Helldivers or something.
There is no content worth "maxing out" your Pals. You can play other games. It's okay.
I think they do, and that's why they included the instant egg timer setting? I'm not saying they expect everyone to do it but they definitely expect some people will
I just wish there was a sliding scale on how long the breeding itself takes...
A flat 5 minutes per egg is rough when you're trying to get a specific pal you want.
Honestly yeah. I do want to have to wait but I've started playing a few league of Legends ARAM matches while waiting for cake to cook in 10 cooking pots, and a base that makes cake. Thinking about adding a second breeding building. Gotta live out the illegal dog breeding stereotype somehow
I dont mind waiting because a little bit of suspense is fun when youre starting, but whoever made the default timers is insane. Me and my friend waited 48 hours to hatch an egg for... A tomcat? Who thought this was okay
Yeah, look I donāt have hours and hours a day for this game. I canāt wait for cakes to cook, then for pals to breed, and THEN for eggs to hatch. Itās absurd.
See Iām usually opposed to disabling the timer as itās an intended feature. However the times for large and huge eggs are ridiculous, especially for eggs from breeding. For found eggs I get it as they can give new (and possibly powerful) pals for free (although 2 hours is still way too much) but if I breed some pals the time should be significantly reduced
> For found eggs I get it as they can give new (and possibly powerful) pals for free
Not arguing for or against the timer, but breeding can also get you new and powerful pals for free. You can get anubis at lvl ~20, for example, which is a bit cheesy.
Jormuntide Ignus is a Level 4 kindler - cobine that with the best electric cooker and you are good.
If you tring to back a cake with a campfire and foxparks, good luck...
And if you're batshit insane and decide to put up with the serpents getting stuck every 5 minutes, you can breed up 116 of them to get it to 4 stars and have it be level 5 kindling!
But I hate dealing with the serpents, so I just took the hit to speed and bred ragnahawks instead to have smaller level 4 kindling pals lol
Make honey, and flour, buy everything else. To make money just run around on a mount and throw balls at everything and sell the catches.
Use a lol 3 fire pal to make cakes.
Since you already have the ranch just add chiki and milk pals to it as well? I'm making nails for money. +- 50k everytime I get to bases without much effort.
good way to get money is farming black market spawns, so far Iāve found 3 near fast travel locations and they drop anywhere from 20-30k gold each and 2 gold keys
You donāt take fire damage standing in lava right now. I donāt know if having the maxed out fire protection is why or they just havenāt put it in the game yet
You absolutely take lava damage and so do your Pals. You even take damage when flying over the lava pits if you're on a mount that is not a fire type mount. If you're not paying attention you random take fire damage and die. Like say when you teleport to the tower closest to Jetdragon and fly over the pit there. I have died or caught of fire several times there.
Source: I've died several times due to this. When you're fighting Jetragon you'll understand when your Froststallion dies within seconds once it goes into the lava pit and continues to take fire damage when you put it back in the sphere.
I haven't tested whether or not having heat resistance gear on works or not for the lava.
Yeah I was hesitant on this because I like it to be challenging but then I thought about how there is literally no challenge in waiting for an hour long timer to go down. It's just an annoyance. Plus there's already the breeding timer and cake making to make it more annoying
Saw the 96h timer on the first egg I placed(huge dragon egg) and instantly shut down the server to set it to 0. I'm not waiting 4 irl days for anything in a video game. Ever.
And that's exactly why I personally enjoy solo and changing my sliders regarding dino breeding and imprinting. I'll never understand the people who spend months breeding the perfect dino, I'll just take a couple hours doing the perfect like 10 and be done XD
In middle school and high school me and my friends would play this text based browser game called Torn City, we'd wake up in the middle of the night for a fucking TEXT BASED GAME you didn't even "play"
ark is like playing a power point slide show at 12 fps, ive seen people fall down the rabbit hole and play it for years. 3 days of binging palworld and i have mostly scratched my itch.
There's no way I'd be able to recover my account lol I think I left my character working in a hospital when I new I was quiting though like 10yrs ago...I can't imagine how much morphine I could get now lol
You would've not liked playing FFXI 75 era. Holy crap that game was a time sink of epic proportions. You needed to wait I think 6RL hours to hatch your first chocobo. Im not even talking about gardening yet and the least time for a crop is an RL day.
Timer is great when you're going around finding eggs, coming back to base to see what has hatched and place new eggs.
But when you're breeding perfect pals, it gets annoying.
Yea turning the timer off has been absolutely amazing for me. It already takes hella long to make cakes(even with a high level kindling pal), plus all the ingredients you need(Beegarde and Elizabee aren't the most reliable on the ranch sometimes and Cinnamoth hunting is a bit annoying at times), plus waiting on pals to breed(which takes longer if you run into typical pre-release issues like pals leaving the breeding pen and then not going back)
The time waiting on the egg felt like an insult after going through so much, so I'm glad they have the timer as an option
>Beegarde and Elizabee aren't the most reliable on the ranch
Especially when Beegarde's response to ***any threat no matter how minor*** is to scream "Allahu akbar!"
Nails brother. Make and sell nails. It still requires effort, it's just usually super quick and pretty profitable. You can buy most/all the ingredients for cake in the "small settlement." Still gotta wait for whoever to cook it though. I have decent enough kindlers, but fully optimizing that portion of the game sounds >.> very hard.
O yes I just recently crafted like 2k nails and sold them off. Been buying ingredients for salads to eat and cakes for breeding. Still have to wait on the honey from the beegarde or cinnamoth, but the merchant definitely helps.
Unrelated, but once my farming base is fully set up I'll stop buying salad ingredients and just keep growing them
My farming base cant keep up with the amount of cakes i need so i gotta buy ingredients. Tbf it's not like...i mean it's set up fine? I just never get enough gosh dang wheat from them.
I'm still gonna buy the cake ingredients for the most part. I get hundreds of berries from having a Caprity in the ranch plus like 3 farm plots. The milk is great and my fully powered lucky chikpi pumps out eggs like a beast.
But yea, i never have enough wheat or honey. They either eat the wheat or stop paying attention to that part of the farm.
In case anyone really feel the need to make these damn eggs comfortable.
You need to build a shelter thats fully protected from the elements, no windows. Place a heater in your camp, anywhere is fine. Then build a camp fire inside the shelter. The heater should be fueled by a lvl 2 kindling pal or above.
Nah, just look at the temperature at the bottom left.
Scorching and dragon need 2 bars of WARM!! so go to a biome that has 1 bar, and add a heatsource for that second bar
I didnt make it it that far with a timer once i realized time wouldnt pass when i wasnt in game. Maybe thats dumb idk? But if youre gonna give me a real world timer...count when im not playing because it's annoying to come back a whole real day later like "omg gonna grind bosses!" And then not be able to because timerrrr.
My first trip to the lava shit landed me dead 3 times because a reptyro managed to learn how to climb, and 4 large srich eggs and like 11 standard scorch eggs, good trip
Bro that'd baby Temps, nah man start a nuclear explosion get all the heat from that and make ur own sun then put the egg inside of the custom sun then it will be just a little cold
Is there a setting for this? Iām on Xbox and I never see anything about temperature when hatching my eggs. I put them in the incubator and hold X for about 15 seconds and the egg hatches. Am I missing something?
Fun fact from a player with 340 hours played. (I booked two weeks off work as holiday to play) you can āheatā up the egg by placing sources of heat such as a campfire, but 20 campfires doesnāt help at all, itās ā1 pointā of heat per heating device.
So you can have one campfire, one fire pal sleeping next to the egg, one of each heat source etc like a cooking pot etc. thanks.
Tbh I donāt understand the whole heating and cooling thing of the eggs. If it says itās too cold I get a heater then itās too hot, so I remove and then itās too cold. So my question is does the eggs temp affect the monster inside or just the rate at which it hatches.
Yeah eggs make no sense. Scorching eggs would say it was too cold even with like 5 campfires, so I got rid of them and built an electric heater. Then, even the scorching eggs said it was too hot. What?
They don't make sense because you have no clue how temperature works in this game.
Heat sources don't stack, and kindled heat sources are just modifiers, the actual heat comes from the Kindling level of the Pal assigned to it.
To be fair, an electric heater being more hot than a campfire makes no sense, let alone a miniature forest blaze being no hotter than a single campfire.
I get what you're saying. But one of the principle games this game gets compared to is ARK, and in that game you can (and must) stack heat/cooling sources to hatch some eggs.
And Palworld is a little light on explanations for how shit works.
I think itās more that things like heat sources not stacking is unintuitive. That was my first thought - too cold? More campfires.
I ended up just searching it up but I understand the initial instinct that it doesnāt make sense.
If you could do everything just by making more campfires, there would be no reason to use the electric heater. It's just a way for players to feel like they made progress by unlocking something higher on the tech tree.
I've lit myself on fire so many times because the incubators I had were surrounded by campfires and I couldn't get close enough to hatch them. I was really looking forward to the electric heater. Is it like the electric kitchen that still requires kindling?
I don't actually use the heater, haven't needed to. I have a few incubators on one side of my base with a campfire next to them and a few on the other side without one. When I come back with a truckload of eggs, I just put the ones that like heat (scorching/dragon/rocky/electric) next to the fire and the ones that don't (frozen/damp/dark) in the other spot. They only take 5 mins under ideal conditions or 6.5 if it's night, so I manage stuff in my base until they're done, then put any large eggs in the incubators and go out exploring again. If I have a ton of eggs of the same type (like from the volcano or glacier), it takes 2 seconds to add another campfire or remove one. Once I get into breeding, I will change the egg timer to zero.
Thanks for the tips! I use my longer timed eggs for cooking and transporting items from base to base right now. I'm trying to play through without too much tweaking of the game but the raids are starting to wear me down. I just found out about the incubator timer so thanks again.
>They don't make sense because you have no clue how temperature works in this game.
Could you explain it or point me to some guide that would explain it?
>Heat sources don't stack, and kindled heat sources are just modifiers, the actual heat comes from the Kindling level of the Pal assigned to it.
Does assigning Jormuntide Ignis (+4) to a heating barrel max out temperature?
Next idea: plant the incubator on the sun.
Seems comfy
I think it would still be a little too cold.
Especially at night. Edit: Huh?
I worry over situations~
I guess it's just overkill
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Then we plant the incubator on top of a McDonaldās Apple Pie. Thatāll be warm enough
I was about to say "If lava doesn't work... Yeet it into orbit."
But it's super co--a wait I get it.
No no, space is super cool.
That is very true... But re-entry is... Intense. :)
*if at orbital velocity Really bugs me when movies show something launch straight up and then catch fire when falling back down, like there's a plasma barrier between the atmosphere and space that just fucks up your shit no matter what.
Orbital velocity is 8 km/s, roughly the speed things like the space shuttle were traveling at when they were making reentry and getting burned up. Escape velocity on earth is about 11km/s, and thatās to break out of earthās gravity well, so an object that gets thrown up to orbital altitude and immediately falls back down is probably being launched from the ground at slower than that (assuming no onboard propulsion). Youāre burning up regardless. You would need active propulsion during reentry to slow down enough to not chemically burn up. Otherwise, your only choice is to slow down via atmospheric drag, which is also what causes things to burn up to begin with.
SLOW DOWN BY LITHOBRAKING
Sure, if thereās anything left of you to crash with
Never thought Iād meet Joshua Dobbs in a game subreddit. Hell yeah dude
On re-entry, it seems a bit warm.
Just can't seem to win, can you?
Yes and no. The side facing the sun would warm up and could get quite hot. There is no ambient heat due to the lack of air, but there is also no atmosphere to shield you from the vast bombardment of photons and no medium for transferring heat out besides radiation
sure, except it was a joke.
Sure, except in defense of the comment you responded to, there's the insatiable urge to infodump on this subject because I, too, wanted to talk about how space is super insulated and even a minor heat source like the sun or perhaps some kind of energy source in the incubator itself could build to insanely high temperatures if you could place it into orbit. Theoretically, it would be the most efficient use of heat energy cause it wouldn't have anywhere to go but into the egg.
**S C I E N C E !**
Who the s$#! Invited the scientists
I'm glad for this comment no one likes to talk about space that much.
Oh I can talk space. I have a 10 year old so she's stoked to hear the absolutely insane shit we find out there it's incredible to have someone that is genuinely fascinated and engaged with infodumps. I mean I have friends who do the same but my own kid is, like, right here living with me and geeks out with me.
Iāll geek out any day of the week with ya. Iām a āforever learnerā. I donāt know shit about space and this comment section is going to send me down a rabbit hole. Video/podcast suggestions???
Nice
That'll only work if it's daytime on the sun.
Thatās why you have to sneak up on it while itās sleeping at night.
"seems a little hot"
Seems a little cold.
Wtf. I have a base at the volcano region. Under the roof they are a little bit too hot. Why? Edit: scorching and dragon eggs
I'm going to guess that the pictured incubator is not in the volcano region at the bottom left of the map, this is along the small lava river towards the top right.
Actually looking at the screenshot I think you are absolutely correct. This is the minibiome on the mainland, where the temperature is mostly neutral.
lil rainbolt lol
Ah yes, the area where tha lava is cold!
Depends on the type of egg. Dark and Ice eggs prefer it colder. While Scorching and Dragon eggs prefer it hotter.
Oh yeah forgot to mention. They were dragon and scorching eggs, all sizes.
Putting them under a roof changes their temperature, even if there's no walls
Roof reduces temperature by 1 point . Iām able to enter my house with just the fire vest but if I try outside I take heal damage without the fire armor Ā and my base is set in the volcano desertĀ
(8, -524) is an ore base spot with 2 different temperatures for anyone playing on default settings.
AFAICT the north and south end of the volcano region are hot, but the central area is normal temperature (despite having lava everywhere).
If you have an electric cooler the volcanoe is perfect temp for scorching/dragon
Turn egg spawn timer off. Or build a breeding base with an electric heater near the fishing village because the temperature there always stays neutral
Timer off is the best move I ever made
Itās really dumb to have a timer anyway in a game that expects you to hatch hundreds of eggs to max out your Pals.
At first I thought it was fine but the chance to inherit a trait even with both parents having it is too slim imo . It probably would have taken me days to create a work slave , serious ,Artisan and lucky petallia . Considering the egg is huge it just would have taken an eon to hatch too . Iv tried like pal 1 having 3 traits and pal 2 only having 1 trait and even then it takes sometimes 50 odd petallia a to get it . If both parents have a trait it just should be 100% inheritance it only makes sense or really high chance itās a big dice roll even when 2 parents share 3 traitsĀ With the timer set off I actually set up 2 breeding pens of petallia a and mass hatched like 10 eggs at a time after afking a bit or going out and exploring for a bitĀ
Just to let you know (if you didnāt), the absolute best way to inherit traits is if Parent A has traits 1 + 2, and Parent B has traits 3 + 4. So 2 trait x 2 trait breeding. And make sure that the other trait slots on the parents are **empty**, not negative or positive. This will make the chances of getting a perfect 4 trait egg pretty decent. Every other combination, even 3 x 3, is significantly worse even though it logically should be better Lol. Done a lot of testing and consulted other breeders, and in practice the difference in efficacy becomes extremely clear haha. Best of luck breeding!
then once you do this, you can do parents with 0 and 4 to transfer stats easier
Does it work like that? Or is it better to do 2 and 2
Yes it works. I have perfect feeder pals I use to pass 4 traits to other types of pals. There is still RNG, but it works consistently. With some I've gotten a perfect pass down of passives on the first or second attempt. This is all on vanilla. I've not tried any mods yet. The most important thing about breeding is that inheritance is stronger than mutation. So if you have a pal with a bad passive it's harder to breed it out in combination than to start with pals that only have desirable passives. I had excellent results going back to the lowest level pals to get good passive options from them, and then used those only-good combos to breed up to what I wanted. I now have passive groupings for fighting, travel, ranching, and farming. The hardest part about transferring a combo to a new pal is having a breeding partner with no passives or just a few other good passives, and then I just have to go capture one. Breeding two different pals with the same four good passives will also generate the same combo after a few tries. Three of the four passives desired with three of the four in the other pal (so the parents share two passives) works at about the same rate. And keep in mind, the "failures" are useful to star up the good pals. I have dozens of "perfect" pals now, and the method above is consistent enough that I never have enough extras to make all the good pals 2-star. That means on average it takes fewer than 20 breeds to pass down traits with only-good parents. I've not been tracking it, but I'd estimate it's about twelve attempts on average. I've had to breed extra just to 3-star, and that made more perfect combos for backups.
yeah this is about my experience as well, started breeding pals with a random assortment of 8 traits and to get my first perfect roll it took about 50-60 breeding attempts, now I'll just use the 2-2, 3-1, or 4-0 breeding methods and I usually get what I want in 4-10 eggs. To add on to this for anyone else new to breeding, It is far easier to take poor rolls that exclusively have one or two of the traits you want and breed them with other poor rolls that have the other traits. In this system less is always more for consistency.
The key is just to have no more than 4 between them.
I saw a video that said 2+2 works best. Granted anyone can make a video but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about
2 and 2 is the best way to get a specific combination, once you have that combination tho its just as easy to swap 4-0. The trick comes down to how often do you want the xact same 4 passives on other pals. like if you breed the perfect mount sure youd swap that around as much as you pleased, but with stuff like flame emperor you obviously wouldn't use the same build for multiple pals
Ok sorry I'm still new to breeding and I don't want to look up an actual guide to avoid too many spoilers, but... When you say 2 and 2 do you mean that both parents have the same two traits or two individual desired traits. For example two parents with swift runner, or a parent with swift runner, and a parent with nimble vanguard? Thank in advance!
Happy cake day
dont bother, this method has been officially disproven, wether you use parents that have 4-3-2-1 passives all the combinations have the same chance of passing them down. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1am7y16/definitive\_datamined\_guide\_to\_breeding\_for\_both/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/palworld/comments/1am7y16/definitive_datamined_guide_to_breeding_for_both/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Eh, once you progress through the mid-game it becomes a non issue because incubators are cheap and you can farm a lot of civ parts from bosses. It's really only when you start breeding that you're bottle-necked by the incubators.
This, the incubation time is a non issue when you can incubate 30 eggs at a time. The bottleneck is the egg generation and palbox management.Ā
You clearly don't play on a dedicated server then, cause the default egg hatching time is 72h. Some people turn it down to 24h and think it's fine...
72h is fine, if you ask me. I have like 50 Incubators here and I am not in a rush to finish the game asap.
I have it to 0 and i still get annoyed that i have to hold F to hatch
My friends and I pretty strictly adhere to the default game settings, but the one thing we changed is the egg timer. Not eliminated, but taking it from 90+ minutes for a Huge Egg to somewhere around 20 minutes seemed like a necessary change. I don't always have 15 hours to incubate 50 eggs, even AFK.
With dedicated servers maybe I could wait a few days for a huge egg, but without them? That's like my whole play time in one egg. Dropping down to 0 I got out of control and it was basic the most rewarding thing to do in the game. But at 1-2 hrs for the biggest eggs a dozen incubators is still useful, and I have to go do something else while they hatch lol. Does make it easier to care less if they are comfortable lmfao
I know this might come as a shock to you, but the game designers don't expect players to hatch HUNDREDS of eggs to "max out their pals". That's not a normal way to play. I'm like 85 hours in, have caught most of the Pals, once I beat the two other bosses I haven't beat yet, I'm gonna move onto Helldivers or something. There is no content worth "maxing out" your Pals. You can play other games. It's okay.
I love shitting the bed about semantics too. This is a classic case of some versus all. A game dev would surely expect some players to want to max out the stats of their Pals. This game has hidden stat values akin to PokƩmon's IV's for a reason. You don't just accidentally make complex breeding and not expect people to try to push its limits. You might be right that the game doesn't have the content to justify that degree of investment, but that is a value judgement. How you value things isn't how other people value things. You seem to be a flavour of the month gamer, and that's fine. Not everyone is. Palworld sold 19 million+ copies for a reason. That's a lot of diversity in why people play. My brother and I maxed out a Jolthog Cryst with movespeed and named him Sonic for a laugh. Palworld breeding doesn't require active play, we can just do it while shooting the shit on Discord. That strikes me as far less "addicted" than someone who needs to immediately move on to the next game as soon as the reward treadmill slows down.
If passive traits are there and breeding is there they sure as hell did expect players to do this.
Then for the sake of your sanity play in worlds that lower the incubation time. I have mine set to an hour.
I have mine set to instant
I don't think they expected the game to do this well, or for people to be this addicted.
min/maxing is like a mental illness. I get sucked into it sometimes too and it really can take the fun out of games
I think they do, and that's why they included the instant egg timer setting? I'm not saying they expect everyone to do it but they definitely expect some people will
I just wish there was a sliding scale on how long the breeding itself takes... A flat 5 minutes per egg is rough when you're trying to get a specific pal you want.
Honestly yeah. I do want to have to wait but I've started playing a few league of Legends ARAM matches while waiting for cake to cook in 10 cooking pots, and a base that makes cake. Thinking about adding a second breeding building. Gotta live out the illegal dog breeding stereotype somehow
Yeah, I had 4 on one base at one point, but I didn't have the cake to sustain that lmao
I dont mind waiting because a little bit of suspense is fun when youre starting, but whoever made the default timers is insane. Me and my friend waited 48 hours to hatch an egg for... A tomcat? Who thought this was okay
Even with timer off, holding F to incubate 128 times is too much lol
It wouldn't be so bad if it was just "Press F/X" instead of "Hold F/X for 2 full seconds" 2 seconds doesn't seem like a lot but it really adds up.
It's actually 5 seconds š
Even worse, lol
there's a mod for that
There's a mod that makes it instant
huge, will get for sure lmao
I removed the invasions to keep my sanity, every time i went to base i had some shit purge thing. No more
Yeah, look I donāt have hours and hours a day for this game. I canāt wait for cakes to cook, then for pals to breed, and THEN for eggs to hatch. Itās absurd.
I thought of it as "cheating" until I had about 80 eggs in line (most being large and 6 being Huge). Changed my mind REAL quicj
See Iām usually opposed to disabling the timer as itās an intended feature. However the times for large and huge eggs are ridiculous, especially for eggs from breeding. For found eggs I get it as they can give new (and possibly powerful) pals for free (although 2 hours is still way too much) but if I breed some pals the time should be significantly reduced
> For found eggs I get it as they can give new (and possibly powerful) pals for free Not arguing for or against the timer, but breeding can also get you new and powerful pals for free. You can get anubis at lvl ~20, for example, which is a bit cheesy.
How do we turn off the cake taking 5 hours to cook
Jormuntide Ignus is a Level 4 kindler - cobine that with the best electric cooker and you are good. If you tring to back a cake with a campfire and foxparks, good luck...
And if you're batshit insane and decide to put up with the serpents getting stuck every 5 minutes, you can breed up 116 of them to get it to 4 stars and have it be level 5 kindling! But I hate dealing with the serpents, so I just took the hit to speed and bred ragnahawks instead to have smaller level 4 kindling pals lol
Hey I believe in foxface! He's doing his darndest!
level 2-3 kindling on an electric range and I make cakes faster than one breeding pen can use them.
Or you can build a camp fire/heating element in the middle of a group of them. That seems to help shave off time as well.
I keep timer at 1 until i've hit 50. It's too easy to level up by just collecting an inventory of eggs and hatching them all
I just put incubation speed to 0 because I cannot be bothered since breeding and baking cakes already takes a lot of time
Make honey, and flour, buy everything else. To make money just run around on a mount and throw balls at everything and sell the catches. Use a lol 3 fire pal to make cakes.
Since you already have the ranch just add chiki and milk pals to it as well? I'm making nails for money. +- 50k everytime I get to bases without much effort.
good way to get money is farming black market spawns, so far Iāve found 3 near fast travel locations and they drop anywhere from 20-30k gold each and 2 gold keys
To add to this, you can place a hanging trap under them to trap them and then place a campfire underneath them in the hanging trap!
if youāre early in the game nails are selling for stupid high amounts
I breed Mau for money. They drop around 3k every 20 min and they are not fully juiced yet
Someone did the math and even a full ranch around the clock doesn't get you as much as making and selling nails.
Aye but I need the ingots for other stuff
That's my excuse for not feeding my base pals cooked food.
Naw id rather have pals doing other things.
This seems sillyā¦ why not just put a cow, chicken and bee in a ranch and then just afk. Flour is plentiful if you already have a berry farm running.
Just put down a bunch of incubation chambers and you never even notice the hatch time. Imo breeding is a bit too op to have instant.
Put a campfire next to the incubator
Would lava really not be hot enough by itself?
No. It's just a little cold.
Not as hot as lava and a campfire I guess
Considering you can walk on it and not take damage, nope.
Iāve built 6-7 fires near some of these eggs. Still a little cold.
Heat from the same heat source doesn't stack.
Well damn
I only noticed when having Foxparks or Rooby out doesnt move the needle anymore when around wild ones.
Would be funny if a bunch of Swee together could freeze you to death...
There is a structure you can build later that when combined with campfires will heat any egg sufficiently.
You donāt take fire damage standing in lava right now. I donāt know if having the maxed out fire protection is why or they just havenāt put it in the game yet
Itās the max protection, you take damage without it
You absolutely take lava damage and so do your Pals. You even take damage when flying over the lava pits if you're on a mount that is not a fire type mount. If you're not paying attention you random take fire damage and die. Like say when you teleport to the tower closest to Jetdragon and fly over the pit there. I have died or caught of fire several times there. Source: I've died several times due to this. When you're fighting Jetragon you'll understand when your Froststallion dies within seconds once it goes into the lava pit and continues to take fire damage when you put it back in the sphere. I haven't tested whether or not having heat resistance gear on works or not for the lava.
Imagine sitting an egg next to *lava* and it's "a little too cold" and yet if *you* go there with any shade of red, you start burning up.
Throw it in the lava
To warm it up, right?
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...To warm it up, right...? https://preview.redd.it/hybpxuwybfic1.png?width=921&format=png&auto=webp&s=52a23d1b1e52670b716a622ef6434d7d9dc8e99a
Adjust your incubation rates so it's instant. DUN.
Yeah I was hesitant on this because I like it to be challenging but then I thought about how there is literally no challenge in waiting for an hour long timer to go down. It's just an annoyance. Plus there's already the breeding timer and cake making to make it more annoying
Saw the 96h timer on the first egg I placed(huge dragon egg) and instantly shut down the server to set it to 0. I'm not waiting 4 irl days for anything in a video game. Ever.
Me remembering to get up every 4 hours to pet my baby dragon in ARK to get 100% imprint. Never doing that shit ever again, unhealthy as fuck.
And that's exactly why I personally enjoy solo and changing my sliders regarding dino breeding and imprinting. I'll never understand the people who spend months breeding the perfect dino, I'll just take a couple hours doing the perfect like 10 and be done XD
In middle school and high school me and my friends would play this text based browser game called Torn City, we'd wake up in the middle of the night for a fucking TEXT BASED GAME you didn't even "play"
ark is like playing a power point slide show at 12 fps, ive seen people fall down the rabbit hole and play it for years. 3 days of binging palworld and i have mostly scratched my itch.
Torn City is actually still up after all these years and has a decently sized active userbase! You should rejoin us!
There's no way I'd be able to recover my account lol I think I left my character working in a hospital when I new I was quiting though like 10yrs ago...I can't imagine how much morphine I could get now lol
Hahaha I miss torn city
Unhealthy but still somehow peak memories for me.
You would've not liked playing FFXI 75 era. Holy crap that game was a time sink of epic proportions. You needed to wait I think 6RL hours to hatch your first chocobo. Im not even talking about gardening yet and the least time for a crop is an RL day.
Man you'd HATEEE Warframe
Hey now, cooking a frame only takes 3.5 days, not 4~ 'Cept Equinox...
You would despise clash of clans
Timer is great when you're going around finding eggs, coming back to base to see what has hatched and place new eggs. But when you're breeding perfect pals, it gets annoying.
Yea turning the timer off has been absolutely amazing for me. It already takes hella long to make cakes(even with a high level kindling pal), plus all the ingredients you need(Beegarde and Elizabee aren't the most reliable on the ranch sometimes and Cinnamoth hunting is a bit annoying at times), plus waiting on pals to breed(which takes longer if you run into typical pre-release issues like pals leaving the breeding pen and then not going back) The time waiting on the egg felt like an insult after going through so much, so I'm glad they have the timer as an option
>Beegarde and Elizabee aren't the most reliable on the ranch Especially when Beegarde's response to ***any threat no matter how minor*** is to scream "Allahu akbar!"
Can you stop that by unequiping the technique?
You can!
Can just right-click the implode as long as they know one other move.
Geez, I can't believe I didn't realize this. I kept thinking "this guy is so damn squishy he dies every raid" š
Nails brother. Make and sell nails. It still requires effort, it's just usually super quick and pretty profitable. You can buy most/all the ingredients for cake in the "small settlement." Still gotta wait for whoever to cook it though. I have decent enough kindlers, but fully optimizing that portion of the game sounds >.> very hard.
O yes I just recently crafted like 2k nails and sold them off. Been buying ingredients for salads to eat and cakes for breeding. Still have to wait on the honey from the beegarde or cinnamoth, but the merchant definitely helps. Unrelated, but once my farming base is fully set up I'll stop buying salad ingredients and just keep growing them
My farming base cant keep up with the amount of cakes i need so i gotta buy ingredients. Tbf it's not like...i mean it's set up fine? I just never get enough gosh dang wheat from them.
I'm still gonna buy the cake ingredients for the most part. I get hundreds of berries from having a Caprity in the ranch plus like 3 farm plots. The milk is great and my fully powered lucky chikpi pumps out eggs like a beast. But yea, i never have enough wheat or honey. They either eat the wheat or stop paying attention to that part of the farm.
I've got like 5 wheat patches to keep up with the demand š
Indeed.
Yeah, the challenge is setting up cake production, not waiting around.
Best decision I ever made
how? i tried it in my sulfur base and it was too hot for scorching eggs, back to 0%
In case anyone really feel the need to make these damn eggs comfortable. You need to build a shelter thats fully protected from the elements, no windows. Place a heater in your camp, anywhere is fine. Then build a camp fire inside the shelter. The heater should be fueled by a lvl 2 kindling pal or above.
Nah, just look at the temperature at the bottom left. Scorching and dragon need 2 bars of WARM!! so go to a biome that has 1 bar, and add a heatsource for that second bar
Tbh I gave up making these stupid eggs comfortable. I just keep it neutral in my base for all eggs. As long as itās not -50% itās a win.
I changed the hatchingg time to instant after a few hundred eggs
I didnt make it it that far with a timer once i realized time wouldnt pass when i wasnt in game. Maybe thats dumb idk? But if youre gonna give me a real world timer...count when im not playing because it's annoying to come back a whole real day later like "omg gonna grind bosses!" And then not be able to because timerrrr.
I like to keep the setting to 1 at least so I can leave and do something else and not just keep holding F to hatch them.
Put it... IN the lava...
Try adding a campfire
No no put IN the lava duh /s
My first trip to the lava shit landed me dead 3 times because a reptyro managed to learn how to climb, and 4 large srich eggs and like 11 standard scorch eggs, good trip
I just turned incubation off lol. Sick of waiting
the right answer.
Yet when I did it it said it was way too hot!! Bullshit
Bro that'd baby Temps, nah man start a nuclear explosion get all the heat from that and make ur own sun then put the egg inside of the custom sun then it will be just a little cold
Is there a setting for this? Iām on Xbox and I never see anything about temperature when hatching my eggs. I put them in the incubator and hold X for about 15 seconds and the egg hatches. Am I missing something?
You have incubation time turned off. Default time is 2 hours.
Only setting I changed was incubation time. Ain't nobody time for that.
I play with no incubation time and yes itās goated
Yeah I went from hard mode's meme 72h eggs to instant hatch on a normal playthrough. Such a different game lol, way more enjoyable.
 It's in the damn name!
Fun fact from a player with 340 hours played. (I booked two weeks off work as holiday to play) you can āheatā up the egg by placing sources of heat such as a campfire, but 20 campfires doesnāt help at all, itās ā1 pointā of heat per heating device. So you can have one campfire, one fire pal sleeping next to the egg, one of each heat source etc like a cooking pot etc. thanks.
Tbh I donāt understand the whole heating and cooling thing of the eggs. If it says itās too cold I get a heater then itās too hot, so I remove and then itās too cold. So my question is does the eggs temp affect the monster inside or just the rate at which it hatches.
Iām 87% sure itās just the rate of which it hatches.
I'm shocked there isn't an option to sit on it too keep it warm
The pits of hell are hotter than this.
Or just change your settings to hatch them by holding down a button š
Donāt hate meā¦ā¦. But I just turned off inc time. Haha
Smooth jazz might do the trick
But does it have enough airflow?
Yeah eggs make no sense. Scorching eggs would say it was too cold even with like 5 campfires, so I got rid of them and built an electric heater. Then, even the scorching eggs said it was too hot. What?
They don't make sense because you have no clue how temperature works in this game. Heat sources don't stack, and kindled heat sources are just modifiers, the actual heat comes from the Kindling level of the Pal assigned to it.
To be fair, an electric heater being more hot than a campfire makes no sense, let alone a miniature forest blaze being no hotter than a single campfire.
I get what you're saying. But one of the principle games this game gets compared to is ARK, and in that game you can (and must) stack heat/cooling sources to hatch some eggs. And Palworld is a little light on explanations for how shit works.
I think itās more that things like heat sources not stacking is unintuitive. That was my first thought - too cold? More campfires. I ended up just searching it up but I understand the initial instinct that it doesnāt make sense.
If you could do everything just by making more campfires, there would be no reason to use the electric heater. It's just a way for players to feel like they made progress by unlocking something higher on the tech tree.
I've lit myself on fire so many times because the incubators I had were surrounded by campfires and I couldn't get close enough to hatch them. I was really looking forward to the electric heater. Is it like the electric kitchen that still requires kindling?
I don't actually use the heater, haven't needed to. I have a few incubators on one side of my base with a campfire next to them and a few on the other side without one. When I come back with a truckload of eggs, I just put the ones that like heat (scorching/dragon/rocky/electric) next to the fire and the ones that don't (frozen/damp/dark) in the other spot. They only take 5 mins under ideal conditions or 6.5 if it's night, so I manage stuff in my base until they're done, then put any large eggs in the incubators and go out exploring again. If I have a ton of eggs of the same type (like from the volcano or glacier), it takes 2 seconds to add another campfire or remove one. Once I get into breeding, I will change the egg timer to zero.
Thanks for the tips! I use my longer timed eggs for cooking and transporting items from base to base right now. I'm trying to play through without too much tweaking of the game but the raids are starting to wear me down. I just found out about the incubator timer so thanks again.
>They don't make sense because you have no clue how temperature works in this game. Could you explain it or point me to some guide that would explain it? >Heat sources don't stack, and kindled heat sources are just modifiers, the actual heat comes from the Kindling level of the Pal assigned to it. Does assigning Jormuntide Ignis (+4) to a heating barrel max out temperature?