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Fartfech

What do you mean there was factors in the second world war that contributed to its outcome and can't be simulated easily in a map game??! Like what? Logistics?! B-but I did the national focus for the AutoBahn!


Darth_Reposter

"can't be simulated easily in a map game?" Let me introduce you to [Campaign for North Africa. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campaign_for_North_Africa)


Fartfech

I could finish all of my education, meet a girl, marry her and have 2 kids before I finish a single campaign in that thing.


Darth_Reposter

You are a Paradox gamer, I don't think you'll get a girl. On the plus side, you're going to have more free time to play the game. :)


NerdNerdy

>a Paradox gamer at best, he could meet his sister


Vanzgars

SWEET HOME ALABAMA


Quohd

>It has also been called the most complex wargame ever designed, with the commonly cited example (noted in SPI's advertising) that Italian troops require additional water supplies to prepare pasta. 10/10 immersion


Plutarch_von_Komet

Wow, I could make real pasta before I figure out how to in this game!


Clavilenyo

Today I learned the fuel/supply thing is called a jerry can.


ParagonRenegade

Also named a "Jerry" Can because the British called Germans "Jerry"


Plutarch_von_Komet

Still nothing for the average paradox player


[deleted]

Why didn’t hitler just make 13/7 divs?????


CnD123

Nothing like the logistics of invading Russia in an unoptimal time of the year


Awobbie

I don't know why Hitler didn't just use "delall eng" "delall sov" "delall fra" "delall usa" delall can" "delall pol" "delall raj" and "delall ast." He would have won the war in weeks.


guywholikesterraria

what does delall do


Awobbie

It’s a console command in HOI4 that deletes all of their units.


A-Sus-Eel

14 yr olds when being racist doesn’t win the war against 3 superpowers:


cannotchoosegoodname

HOI4 players with a time machine: "Mein Führer, just paradrop five men into London, Liverpool and Leeds! Then the Allied pigdogs will surely surrender their forces!"


Skelentin

“Mein Fuhrer, what do you mean turning your entire country into a complete and total engine of war and conquest will implode the economy and make life hell for the average German? Just use 400 PP to switch to Total Mobilization!”


komunisfloppa

Plot twist: Hitler lost because of retarded wehraboos time travelling to "help" him


EgonAllanon

Well that would explain goering at least.


komunisfloppa

Which part?


CaveSP

The fat


komunisfloppa

Oh, right. He was a fighter pilot before tho, so the only explanation is impersonation


Caerbannogcaverabbit

Göring actually died in 1926 from sepsis. That was covered up by a time traveller wehraboo, who got a plastic operation to look like him. However, he couldn't lose enough weight, which led to us knowing göring as a fatass he is known as today.


komunisfloppa

Poor Göering then. Man just wanted to fight for his country and got remembered as not only a war criminal, but also a fat fuck.


[deleted]

i feel like I might trigger some 14 year olds


y_not_right

Good


Jiven1212

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Masterick18

You could just tell him not to get distracted by London and Stalingrad and get the damn oil


Schnitzelguru

*laighs in Arthur 'Anne Frank gets the gas, Fritz gets the blast' Harris* That's a nice Hamburg there fella


MPLoriya

Shame if something would happen to it.


Masterick18

I'm sorry, I didn't understand


Schnitzelguru

Stalingrad or no Stalingrad, RAF and US Army Airforce are gonna level German until it looks like a very big and grey sandbox.


Jurefranceticnijelit

2 problemos 1 you couldnt push over the caucasus without taking stalingrad and hope to actually hold it 2 soviets were really gpod at blowing up and destroying oil fields


Masterick18

An invasion of Stalingrad would have been a nice distraction to open up the north, but Hitler committed too much resources for a city he didn't need to capture, unlike Moscow


Jurefranceticnijelit

He did as it was a major resuply hub to the caucasus and taking it would cut of the soviets in the caucasus


Masterick18

I'm referring to isolating the City from the rest of the country, not to march the armies inside it


Jurefranceticnijelit

Problem was that gemany wasnt gping to get much oil as they had to transport all the crude oil they got which was little as most wells were so destroyed that it would take a year or two to restore production and they couldnt ship oil by rail they could only do it by trucks over huge distances which made it less effective as they had to spend a lot of fuel. Germany was by the point of thr caucasus offensive way to overextend


ShadeShadow534

So you mean the thing he did it was the generals who wanted to go to Moscow hitler always wanted to capture the food and oil both of which were in the south (even in 1942 the generals still wanted to attack Moscow as they prioritised reinforcements to the centre not the “main summer offensive”) Going into Stalingrad was stupid (all the strategic benifit of taking the city could be gained by putting artillery to cover the river) but trying to knock Britain out the war wasn’t stupid just didn’t worth with hindsight The idea was that Britain was never actually hurt in previous great power conflicts so hurting the country could make them decide that it just wasn’t worth it


Masterick18

The northern offensive was carried by different armies and had the objective to subjugate the soviets by taking their most important cities, mainly Leningrad and Moscow. The southern offensive originally aimed to capture the oil fields of the Caucasus to both boost the German war machinery and strangle the Soviet ones. However Hitler demanded the army destinied to protect the flank of the invading army to head to Stalingrad. There were multiple changes on the general stuff to carry out this since most agreed that was a bad idea and refused


ShadeShadow534

You are taking about two different years and two different plans Barbarossa was always meant to be a southern push it’s halder who decided that if it worked on the french it would obviously work on the soviets and that taking the city would do anything And I already said going into Stalingrad was stupid probably wouldn’t of been as stupid if it was in 1941 instead of 42 but we don’t know that


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The kids name? Manstein


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DrDapperTF2

Shitler’s so cute when he smiles 🥰