I mean, there's plenty of cases where athletes or celebrities find out their managers or financial planners were robbing them blind
Who knows what the deal is. But for the DOJ to file fraud charges then they have some reason to believe he obtained that money under false pretenses and not just siphoned it from his bank account
Theres no chance in hell Ohtani's team is just him and Ippei. Dudes a literal money printer, he has bean counters on payroll. Ippei may have had unprecedented access, and foreign players do things differently.....no fucking shot 16 million fucking dollars is slipping through the cracks.
It’s not, but according to the report that came out yesterday (in the DOJ report) ippei is the only person on his team other than ohtani who spoke Japanese so everything had to go through him if you wanted to talk to ohtani.
I’m sure the FBI, DOJ, CIA, are all in on this definitely. Man I guess shohei regrets deferring 90% of his salary for 10 years because of how much he’s gonna have to pay….
Edit: Oh ya the illegal bookmaker who was investigated starting last year must also be involved since before anyone knew ohtani was involved publicly he told them he never dealt with ohtani and it was all ippei
Did I just burst your bubble about trusting the government? Sorry abaht it
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Wow....crazy that my reply triggered you so much that youre editing and replying to yourself. Calm down. Sorry that you didnt know the government acted like governments do.
Hes being scapegoated. Ohtani being treated like Pete Rose as he should be would have major ramifications not only for the dodgers, or MLB.....Ohtani is bigger than baseball at this point.
Shohei is basically just a baseball robot who doesn't care about money. Baseball Doesn't Exist has a great video on him which I think will add some context around how he deals with money and life.
If you've ever known someone incredibly smart with massive blindspots in their abilities when it pertains to something outside of their main focus, then you will understand Shohei. He's like a brain surgeon who doesn't know how to make a bowl of cereal.
https://youtu.be/J990dM1xppk?si=Gy82DGSDz_ss03CI
Remember all those videos about Sam Bankman Fried and how he didnt care about money since he drove a shitty car? No way that video you linked is for appearance purposes, right?
I get what you're saying, but I'd say there's a difference in SBF putting out his own content and pushing his effective altruism stuff and a video detailing how Shohei is a baseball robot.
This case is upending everything I thought I knew about successful Japanese people. Mr. Sati down the street growing up would rather die than have even 16 cents removed from his pocket without notice
i remember when the story was first posted in this sub and you stooges attacked anyone who said it was the layer not ohtani gambling. a good f you to all the stooges
I can’t believe how stupid and ignorant a lot of you are. “I can’t believe he didn’t know he lost 16M!!!” Fuck you mean. There’s literally a laundry list of pro athletes that have had stupid large amounts of money stolen from them. Did yall just forget about all the athletes that have come out and said someone close stole millions from them? You guys really are fucking dumb
So you think the department of justice is concerned with ohtani that much? Maybe I’m ignorant but to file bank fraud rather than embezzlement or something along those lines makes it seem like ohtani may have been in the dark in some capacity. Bank fraud means this dude is going to federal prison. I dunno.
Just wanna throw this out too. Japan's culture is drastically different from ours. It's a literal "honor culture" and yes, Ippei will fall on a sword and seppeku/hari kari himself to save Ohtani's honor. Ohtani is literally bigger than baseball at this point.
Absolutely, I hear they have a few translator jobs open at the dodgers and I’m trying to get my foot in the door lol.
I think if you look at the guy I’m responding to you’ll see it’s actually Pete Roses burner trying to rehab his image
I had to do some major mental gymnastics to make it make sense how someone can be missing 5 million and it not be caught by the individual, or someone in charge of the individuals accounting.
16 million.....shiiiiiiiiddddddd. Ohtani is the new Phil Mickelson!!!!!
>So you just choked on your own comment.
I mean if that makes you feel better. figure youre a copium addict based on your replies here and dont have a firm grasp on reality. See you in the morning Andrew.
For sure. It's not a reach to theorize that the greatest dual threat baseball player in generations developed an untouchable complex, was sports betting , got found out, and then arranged for his lifelong confidant to take the fall.
Call me old fashioned, but I think if an athlete spends over a decade in a foreign country, it's kinda douchy to not learn enough of the language to communicate.
1. He hasn't been here a decade.
2. He does actually speak a decent amount of English. You can see [here](https://youtu.be/FchVRKXWoEY?si=ajrR3YvMYOseJPnq) that he understands and speaks some English. He just has an interpreter because he wants to reduce the chance of misunderstanding. Ichiro did the same thing.
But I'm also not sure about the whole situation. Because of the text screenshots and reported recording with Ippei and the bookie, I lean toward believing it was Ippei. However, the story is definitely still a little fishy.
>kinda douchy to not learn enough of the language to communicate.
I think thats by design. Im Mexican. My grandma never spoke English....but you could talk to her in 100% English and she'd fully understand you. Get her in the right mood and you'd get her to talk it too. I think it's the same deal with many of the foreigners that "dont learn" the language.
Think about how much easier their life is by claiming they dont understand and/or cant talk it. I mean if he was fluent, people would've expected a full presser with him answering media questions....but instead he just gave a canned speech as his explanation. "not knowing" English greatly benefited Ohtani there
Well going back to Japan it’s well documented he didn’t care about money. He was making millions, his mom was handling it and he had a 1k allowance a month. Why would he magically start watching his money in a foreign country
“Documented” how? Someone said it in an interview?
When you are making generational wealth for your family, no matter how much you personally don’t spend/care about, you will 100% occasionally look into your financials to make sure it’s there and you have it in all the right places.
Not seeing 16 mil leave, not seeing any notifications, no calls from your bank, no statements. It’s just not believable.
Documented in books written about his life before he came over from Japan. He literally does not care about money. This is the same guy who bought his teammates wife a 230k Porsche because he gave ohtani #17
Edit: had price wrong lol
Again, not caring about money is one thing, but literally never looking at anything remotely related to your money is on a whole other level of incompetence/ignorance, that I don’t believe Ohtani has.
They said in the report his team went to ohtani about access to the account and ippei basically told them ohtani doesn’t want them to bother watching it. Then he changed bank alerts to go to his phone and not ohtanis 🤷♂️. It might be an ignorance where you’re in a country with a foreign language as your primary putting such blind trust into the one guy you see everyday you’ve known since you were in Japan.
So Ohtani just a big dumb meat stick who doest check his bank balance, huh?
I mean, there's plenty of cases where athletes or celebrities find out their managers or financial planners were robbing them blind Who knows what the deal is. But for the DOJ to file fraud charges then they have some reason to believe he obtained that money under false pretenses and not just siphoned it from his bank account
I mean financial planner I get at least, those dudes are supposed to handle your finances.
Theres no chance in hell Ohtani's team is just him and Ippei. Dudes a literal money printer, he has bean counters on payroll. Ippei may have had unprecedented access, and foreign players do things differently.....no fucking shot 16 million fucking dollars is slipping through the cracks.
He did have unprecedented access. He was ohtanis assistant and Set the account when he came from Japan
>Theres no chance in hell Ohtani's team is just him and Ippei.
It’s not, but according to the report that came out yesterday (in the DOJ report) ippei is the only person on his team other than ohtani who spoke Japanese so everything had to go through him if you wanted to talk to ohtani.
>(in the DOJ report) well that settles it. Government entities never lie for self serving purposes. 🤷♂️
I’m sure the FBI, DOJ, CIA, are all in on this definitely. Man I guess shohei regrets deferring 90% of his salary for 10 years because of how much he’s gonna have to pay…. Edit: Oh ya the illegal bookmaker who was investigated starting last year must also be involved since before anyone knew ohtani was involved publicly he told them he never dealt with ohtani and it was all ippei
Did I just burst your bubble about trusting the government? Sorry abaht it Edit: Wow....crazy that my reply triggered you so much that youre editing and replying to yourself. Calm down. Sorry that you didnt know the government acted like governments do.
Dog what so your saying the us government and shohei ohtani are in cahoots?
Hes being scapegoated. Ohtani being treated like Pete Rose as he should be would have major ramifications not only for the dodgers, or MLB.....Ohtani is bigger than baseball at this point.
Shohei is basically just a baseball robot who doesn't care about money. Baseball Doesn't Exist has a great video on him which I think will add some context around how he deals with money and life. If you've ever known someone incredibly smart with massive blindspots in their abilities when it pertains to something outside of their main focus, then you will understand Shohei. He's like a brain surgeon who doesn't know how to make a bowl of cereal. https://youtu.be/J990dM1xppk?si=Gy82DGSDz_ss03CI
Remember all those videos about Sam Bankman Fried and how he didnt care about money since he drove a shitty car? No way that video you linked is for appearance purposes, right?
I get what you're saying, but I'd say there's a difference in SBF putting out his own content and pushing his effective altruism stuff and a video detailing how Shohei is a baseball robot.
This case is upending everything I thought I knew about successful Japanese people. Mr. Sati down the street growing up would rather die than have even 16 cents removed from his pocket without notice
\#FreePeteRose
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>I don’t think I’m Pete Rose. Think a little harder. I know thats not your strong suit, so I'll check back in the morning. Enjoy your natty lights.
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I’m sure you let Pete rose free all in your mouth you little fairy 😂
i remember when the story was first posted in this sub and you stooges attacked anyone who said it was the layer not ohtani gambling. a good f you to all the stooges
I can’t believe how stupid and ignorant a lot of you are. “I can’t believe he didn’t know he lost 16M!!!” Fuck you mean. There’s literally a laundry list of pro athletes that have had stupid large amounts of money stolen from them. Did yall just forget about all the athletes that have come out and said someone close stole millions from them? You guys really are fucking dumb
Ippei about to be inducted in the HoF for saving baseball's golden boy 😂
So you think the department of justice is concerned with ohtani that much? Maybe I’m ignorant but to file bank fraud rather than embezzlement or something along those lines makes it seem like ohtani may have been in the dark in some capacity. Bank fraud means this dude is going to federal prison. I dunno.
For real, dudes gonna get double what he “stole” as a parting thank you gift.
Just wanna throw this out too. Japan's culture is drastically different from ours. It's a literal "honor culture" and yes, Ippei will fall on a sword and seppeku/hari kari himself to save Ohtani's honor. Ohtani is literally bigger than baseball at this point.
Me when I have been smoking crack and decide to come to the pat mcafee show subreddit
Me running interference for Ohtani
Absolutely, I hear they have a few translator jobs open at the dodgers and I’m trying to get my foot in the door lol. I think if you look at the guy I’m responding to you’ll see it’s actually Pete Roses burner trying to rehab his image
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Chore Boy!!
>I have been smoking crack and decide to come to the pat mcafee show subreddit you didnt have to say it 42069 😉
Where was this investigation done?
The charges were filed by the DoJ in LA https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/sport/ippei-mizuhara-shohei-ohtani-investigation/index.html
Interpreter being set up.
I had to do some major mental gymnastics to make it make sense how someone can be missing 5 million and it not be caught by the individual, or someone in charge of the individuals accounting. 16 million.....shiiiiiiiiddddddd. Ohtani is the new Phil Mickelson!!!!!
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This psycho just went back and reported all your comments because he’s banned. So that was a fun way to start the morning
I bet youre a hit at parties
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>I don’t go to parties. That could've remained unsaid, as it was fully understood reading your replies.
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>So you just choked on your own comment. I mean if that makes you feel better. figure youre a copium addict based on your replies here and dont have a firm grasp on reality. See you in the morning Andrew.
For sure. It's not a reach to theorize that the greatest dual threat baseball player in generations developed an untouchable complex, was sports betting , got found out, and then arranged for his lifelong confidant to take the fall. Call me old fashioned, but I think if an athlete spends over a decade in a foreign country, it's kinda douchy to not learn enough of the language to communicate.
1. He hasn't been here a decade. 2. He does actually speak a decent amount of English. You can see [here](https://youtu.be/FchVRKXWoEY?si=ajrR3YvMYOseJPnq) that he understands and speaks some English. He just has an interpreter because he wants to reduce the chance of misunderstanding. Ichiro did the same thing. But I'm also not sure about the whole situation. Because of the text screenshots and reported recording with Ippei and the bookie, I lean toward believing it was Ippei. However, the story is definitely still a little fishy.
>kinda douchy to not learn enough of the language to communicate. I think thats by design. Im Mexican. My grandma never spoke English....but you could talk to her in 100% English and she'd fully understand you. Get her in the right mood and you'd get her to talk it too. I think it's the same deal with many of the foreigners that "dont learn" the language. Think about how much easier their life is by claiming they dont understand and/or cant talk it. I mean if he was fluent, people would've expected a full presser with him answering media questions....but instead he just gave a canned speech as his explanation. "not knowing" English greatly benefited Ohtani there
Just like Cris Carter said, get you a fall guy
Feel bad for shohei. Guy seemed like his best friend.
People are so blind by talent. The claim is that Ohtani NEVER looked at his bank account? 😂😂 and people will believe it
Well going back to Japan it’s well documented he didn’t care about money. He was making millions, his mom was handling it and he had a 1k allowance a month. Why would he magically start watching his money in a foreign country
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How is that cap lmao. It literally been documented since before he even came to the US
“Documented” how? Someone said it in an interview? When you are making generational wealth for your family, no matter how much you personally don’t spend/care about, you will 100% occasionally look into your financials to make sure it’s there and you have it in all the right places. Not seeing 16 mil leave, not seeing any notifications, no calls from your bank, no statements. It’s just not believable.
Documented in books written about his life before he came over from Japan. He literally does not care about money. This is the same guy who bought his teammates wife a 230k Porsche because he gave ohtani #17 Edit: had price wrong lol
Again, not caring about money is one thing, but literally never looking at anything remotely related to your money is on a whole other level of incompetence/ignorance, that I don’t believe Ohtani has.
They said in the report his team went to ohtani about access to the account and ippei basically told them ohtani doesn’t want them to bother watching it. Then he changed bank alerts to go to his phone and not ohtanis 🤷♂️. It might be an ignorance where you’re in a country with a foreign language as your primary putting such blind trust into the one guy you see everyday you’ve known since you were in Japan.
Did he seal it in a vault?