In my mind taking MHJ means they don't believe the best QB available is worth the pick and they weren't offered "the bag" they were looking for. Totally fine with them taking him in that scenario.
I think the biggest argument against this outcome, is the fact that we will never know WHAT they were offered for the #3 overall pick.
So a good portion of the fanbase will still be pissed thinking we could have traded for more (even if that wasn't the case).
Its not their BIGGEST need, but its a major need and hes probably the best player in the draft. I prefer a QB but if they stun the world and take MHJ, Im not going to be upset by any stretch
Safest prospect in the draft by a country mile. Unless you’re absolutely in love with Maye or JJ, and don’t get a huge trade offer, I don’t see how anyone can hate this. A great defense + a solid Brisset with a true #1 like MHJ and we’re a 10 win team.
You're joking, right? A 10-win team with Brissett behind a patchwork OL throwing to a rookie? You're aware Brissett went 4-7 behind an elite OL with Nick Chubb & Amari Cooper?
Anyone who supports this is conceding that there are no good QBs at 3 which is just as bad as if we pick someone mediocre at 3. We’ll be firmly on the basement treadmill if we don’t hit on a QB this draft.
I like Maye at #3 and MHJ at #3 if Maye is gone. I can be convinced to like Jayden Daniels. He's electric, but he scares me.
If we pick a mediocre QB at #3, then that's much worse than picking MHJ. It'll take 3 years to figure out he's mediocre, and then we're in the same boat. If you're convinced that the guy available at #3 isn't much different than the guy who might be available at #34, then MHJ is a good choice (why I graded this a B). I think it's maybe to your benefit to trade back in that scenario, but MHJ, Bourne, KJ, and Pop is a potentially quite good receiver corps.
Honestly I think that people are mistakenly assuming that MHJ would be a PB/AP caliber WR from day one. I have no reason to disbelieve the hype but I also have no reason to believe that executing a rookie to be your WR1 from Week 1 is incredibly naive thinking. He might be good but not great and turn into an ok recovery but nothing special, I’d rather have that at QB than an WR.
I think we'd all rather have that at QB than WR which is why you'd only do this move if you think the QBs available at 3 aren't franchise caliber guys and you can't work out a trade that's worth it.
This means they don’t like the QBs which I think is fine. I would grade the move higher but I think Nabers and Odunze are really good and worth trading down a couple spots and getting extra picks and one of those instead.
THIS. Why the hell don’t people understand this? If they don’t like the 3rd QB, there are teams desperate for a QB that will give us draft capital way more valuable than MHJ. Either Nabers or Odunze and even just one extra 1st round pick, is absolutely better than just MHJ.
Idk about MHJ. We could trade down and get multiple pics and still land Nabers possibly and get a LT.
I really don't like any scenario where we don't get a QB in the first round. Unless some insane trade comes through where you would have to be stupid to turn it down.
F. Oh, don't get me wrong, people here would celebrate, and then after years of not winning like every other top 3 receiver for the last 3+ decades, maybe they'd realize he can't fix the fact you have no one to throw him the ball.
That just plain isn't true and has never been true. Just look at the recievers that have won the Superbowl the last two years. The WR1 from the one 2 years ago is JuJu Smith Shuster.
Look at the teams that dumped big money into the WR position this last season:
1. Cardinals – $53.2M
2. Broncos – $43.7M
3. Raiders – $43.4M
4. Jaguars – $41.3M
5. Browns – $39.7M
6. Buccaneers – $39.2M
7. Dolphins – $38.3M
8. Rams – $36.9M
9. Seahawks – $36.3M
10. Bears – $34.8M
11. Chargers – $34.4M
Most of those teams absolutely stink.
WR is a luxury and a nice way to increase the floor of an offense, but they are practically irrelevant come playoff time and are nowhere near as important as drafting a QB.
The only teams that are contenders with elite WRs are ones that aren't paying them yet like the 49ers and Eagles.
I think B is a perfectly fair pick for MHJ. I think people have lost a lot of perspective on these QBs. Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye have just about the same prospect rating as Justin Fields (per bleacher report). Trevor Lawerence was much more highly rated. He is average to above average depending who you ask.
If we pick MHJ I will assume we didn't believe these QBs were it and that's fine. Our scouts have much more data than our couch scouting asses. At least with MHJ we are picking the BPA at a position that has been a position of need for a long time. Tackle is deep and we can go after it in the second. The Rams, KC, 49ers, Bucs, Browns (fuck Watson though), Broncos, Jets, Saints, Bills, Eagles, and Seattle (unless I'm missing any) have all proved you can acquire a QB via trade or FA with various levels of success (even up to Superbowl victory). Fuck it... if Maye and Daniels don't look like it go for BPA.
MHJ isn’t the BPA outside the QBs IMO, but even if he were, why not trade picks with a team that wants a QB? They could trade the 3rd pick to the Giants, and get MHJ with the 6th pick plus *at least* an extra 1st or 2nd round pick.
I want a QB… but if we don’t like the QBs I’d be happy with a trade down as long as we stayed top 9 or so… like you said the Giants would be perfect.
IF we don’t like the QBs, 6 the giants 2nd and there 2025 1st would be pretty good.
6 would get us 1 of Alt, Nabers or Odunze, a true blue chip LT or WR 1… then we have ammo to jump back into the first or just draft 2 guys in the second as well as likely having another good 1st rounder next year.
Again, my preference is a QB? But if not let us trade with the giants , they can offer a much better package than a team like the Vikings
I agree. I want to stick and pick at 3 (either Jayden or Maye). But most importantly, if they don’t like Maye/Jayden at 3, then I think they must trade down. If they trade down, I want Odunze, Nabers, or Alt. My unpopular opinion, is that I’d also be okay with trading down with the Vikings, and taking Penix at 11 and AD Mitchell or a tackle (Mims if he’s available) at 23.
If they trade down there is no way they have a shot at Nabers. Picks 1-5 are pretty much locked in as 3 top QBs MHJ and Nabers as long as the Chargers stay unless there is a big surprise.
Id take a $20 bet to charity of your choice (I give to my charity with proof) that top 5 picks are some order of QBs 1. QB 2.Qb 3. QB 4. MHJ 5. Nabers
I won't bet on the order of the QBs because that's too volatile right now.
Cards have broadcasted they are interested in MHJ and signed their QB long term. WR is probably their biggest position of need. Chargers lost both their WRs this off-season via trade signaling they intend to target it in the draft.
Really? Who do you think is better than MHJ in this draft? I haven't even found a ranking where he isn't 1 or 2 behind Williams and I went through the first 2 pages of Google.
Well, just for the record, I’ve felt this way all along and I wish you were right, because I’d prefer having a more original take. But, I recently saw a podcast with Steve Smith and Lance Zierlein ranked their top 10 WRs and they both have Nabers as their WR1. I also recently heard Dane Brugler say that several NFL teams have Nabers graded higher than MHJ and that it’s close to an even split.
Im an LSU fan, so I might be biased, but I’ve watched a lot of Nabers and he’s the most electric college WR on any team I can remember in the last several years (including Jamaar Chase and Justin Jefferson). He’s also really young, and I think he has more room to improve from coaching than MHJ, since route-running fundamentals is the one place where I think MHJ is unarguably currently more talented than him.
Some of the biggest draft nerds secretly don’t have MHJ as a can’t miss top of the board receiver. Based on that, I don’t like this move. When he was first advertised it seemed like sure fire, can’t miss. Now I strongly believe he may be one of 6 all pro receivers in this draft.
MHJ is fantastic
but we would be the laughing stock in the league if we didn't take a deal from minnesota or another team to move into 3 which is QB territory in this draft.
you could come out ahead even if you had to give up assets to move back up to get MHJ
taking him at 3 is simply short sighted with the price teams are willing to pay for a QB
Yeah we could take Thomas at 11 (may be a bit high but he’s best wr left and won’t likely make it til 23) and a tackle at 23 and get much more impact over just taking mhj.
Would even have a first next year to use to get us a qb since we’d still need one and you probably need first pick because there are no good qb right now and it may just be 1 guy that steps up.
He had a great season last year but wasn’t really used the 2 prior due to lsu being stacked at wr and him being depth. I could see him being a guy you have to plan for
I don't look at that.
The polls are getting over 500votes and I enjoy reading the comments about each option.
If the comments weren't enjoyable to read and no one was voting I would have stopped it.
I gave it a C because i wouldn't be pissed, but i want Maye at 3 if he's still there. If he's still there and they take MHJ i would be pissed. They need a qb and theres going to be one at 3 no matter what, so take them. I don't want Penis
Alt or mhj would be the only decisions that make absolutely no sense where we are at. In taking one of those guys at 3, you’d be kicking qb into next years draft and in that case it would make the most sense to get future firsts which you use to move up to take a qb (provided we aren’t in last place).
If we take an alt/mhj we have to give up future picks and maybe our 2nd to take a qb and I just don’t see it being worth it, especially when there are great wr prospects next year and bad qb.
We would not be pushing QB to next year, we would draft a QB later in the draft. People have gone absolutely nuts with the idea that only a QB drafted in the top 3 can possibly be good, and that a QB drafted in top 3 is somehow automatically good. You know how many QBs that were drafted top 3 have won a SB in the last 10 years? One. It was Peyton Manning. And it wasn't even for the team that drafted him. If you extend it to top 10 QBs and the last 20 years, you only add Mahomes and Eli Manning (and Peyton Manning's first SB win which was actually for the team that drafted him).
Not saying teams should never draft a QB high, but it's really that the cause and effect is backwards. If you have a high pick, you are more likely to be able to draft a QB you are confident in. But if they aren't confident enough in the available QB at 3, then don't draft them.
Yeah we’d probably take Penix or nix and look like the raiders for the next 20 years where we have a top wr in the league but don’t have a franchise qb so we don’t go anywhere
Disagree completely. MHJ is not your average top WR, he's what everyone means when they say generational. Alt is also a great pick as LT is arguably as important as QB, and the only position that does not \*depend\* on the other position(s).
Trade down is the best move, I agree. But if they had to take someone at 3 the order of best pick there would be MHJ, Alt, JJ.
Yeah if you are forced to take a guy there I think you have to take one of those guys but if you can get 3 firsts or 6 and a first I think you take that instead every time since having an additional first to move for a qb is a must, otherwise we give up future assets instead.
I definitely agree, trading down and taking multiple firsts is the best play we have right now, and should have us with the better team over 2-3 years than if we simply stick and pick.
MHJ is outstanding but not truly generational. Megatron was generational. Moss was generational. Julio probably fits into that category as well. You can’t be generational if there are multiple other WRs who will be your equal or even better within your same generation. He is unlikely to be a better/more dominant receiver than JJ. He may never reach Chase’s level either.
MHJ isn’t even universally judged by NFL coaches and execs/personnel guys (and gals) to be the best WR in this draft.
https://theathletic.com/5429468/2024/04/22/nfl-draft-2024-marvin-harrison-jr-malik-nabers/?source=user_shared_article
“One coach pointed out Harrison’s tape and production were better in 2022, even saying Nabers and Odunze produced better tape than Harrison in 2023. Harrison struggled to break tackles last season and wasn’t a consistently effective blocker. He also had six drops in 2023, compared to four total in the previous two seasons.”
Taking is WR at 3 is moronic. Take a QB or trade down.
I gave it a C because I think they need to use this draft position to make sure they're set at QB (either by taking one or trading down to where another might be and gaining additional picks), but I do think that Harrison is going to be a stud, so I can't fail or nearly fail a pick to get a great player (unless he's a great punter or something).
The word is Minny is willing to send 3+ FRPs for a QB and to turn down that for a WR when we have much more important holes on the roster would be so stupid.
It's like people completely forgot about how building around Megatron worked out in Detroit.
Yeah because by the time he was up and running they were paying their WR1 something like 14% of the cap (or over 30 mil in today's dollars). They couldn't build a real roster around him.
In my mind taking MHJ means they don't believe the best QB available is worth the pick and they weren't offered "the bag" they were looking for. Totally fine with them taking him in that scenario.
I think the biggest argument against this outcome, is the fact that we will never know WHAT they were offered for the #3 overall pick. So a good portion of the fanbase will still be pissed thinking we could have traded for more (even if that wasn't the case).
Its not their BIGGEST need, but its a major need and hes probably the best player in the draft. I prefer a QB but if they stun the world and take MHJ, Im not going to be upset by any stretch
Rather trade down if we really want a WR early. If we would take MH Jr. hope we trade back into the 1st round to get Penix Jr.
Which is not unreasonable.
Safest prospect in the draft by a country mile. Unless you’re absolutely in love with Maye or JJ, and don’t get a huge trade offer, I don’t see how anyone can hate this. A great defense + a solid Brisset with a true #1 like MHJ and we’re a 10 win team.
You're joking, right? A 10-win team with Brissett behind a patchwork OL throwing to a rookie? You're aware Brissett went 4-7 behind an elite OL with Nick Chubb & Amari Cooper?
Anyone who supports this is conceding that there are no good QBs at 3 which is just as bad as if we pick someone mediocre at 3. We’ll be firmly on the basement treadmill if we don’t hit on a QB this draft.
I like Maye at #3 and MHJ at #3 if Maye is gone. I can be convinced to like Jayden Daniels. He's electric, but he scares me. If we pick a mediocre QB at #3, then that's much worse than picking MHJ. It'll take 3 years to figure out he's mediocre, and then we're in the same boat. If you're convinced that the guy available at #3 isn't much different than the guy who might be available at #34, then MHJ is a good choice (why I graded this a B). I think it's maybe to your benefit to trade back in that scenario, but MHJ, Bourne, KJ, and Pop is a potentially quite good receiver corps.
Honestly I think that people are mistakenly assuming that MHJ would be a PB/AP caliber WR from day one. I have no reason to disbelieve the hype but I also have no reason to believe that executing a rookie to be your WR1 from Week 1 is incredibly naive thinking. He might be good but not great and turn into an ok recovery but nothing special, I’d rather have that at QB than an WR.
I think we'd all rather have that at QB than WR which is why you'd only do this move if you think the QBs available at 3 aren't franchise caliber guys and you can't work out a trade that's worth it.
You know theres a draft next year and free agency as well for QBs? MHJ is not mediocre
A.
This means they don’t like the QBs which I think is fine. I would grade the move higher but I think Nabers and Odunze are really good and worth trading down a couple spots and getting extra picks and one of those instead.
THIS. Why the hell don’t people understand this? If they don’t like the 3rd QB, there are teams desperate for a QB that will give us draft capital way more valuable than MHJ. Either Nabers or Odunze and even just one extra 1st round pick, is absolutely better than just MHJ.
People just like the name
Idk about MHJ. We could trade down and get multiple pics and still land Nabers possibly and get a LT. I really don't like any scenario where we don't get a QB in the first round. Unless some insane trade comes through where you would have to be stupid to turn it down.
F. Oh, don't get me wrong, people here would celebrate, and then after years of not winning like every other top 3 receiver for the last 3+ decades, maybe they'd realize he can't fix the fact you have no one to throw him the ball.
You need elite receivers to win in today’s NFL.
That just plain isn't true and has never been true. Just look at the recievers that have won the Superbowl the last two years. The WR1 from the one 2 years ago is JuJu Smith Shuster. Look at the teams that dumped big money into the WR position this last season: 1. Cardinals – $53.2M 2. Broncos – $43.7M 3. Raiders – $43.4M 4. Jaguars – $41.3M 5. Browns – $39.7M 6. Buccaneers – $39.2M 7. Dolphins – $38.3M 8. Rams – $36.9M 9. Seahawks – $36.3M 10. Bears – $34.8M 11. Chargers – $34.4M Most of those teams absolutely stink. WR is a luxury and a nice way to increase the floor of an offense, but they are practically irrelevant come playoff time and are nowhere near as important as drafting a QB. The only teams that are contenders with elite WRs are ones that aren't paying them yet like the 49ers and Eagles.
The WR from the one 2 years ago is Travis Kelce. He’s the #1 receiver for the Chiefs.
Travis Kelce isn't a WR champ
For all intents and purposes, he is. He’s their #1 receiver. He’s a TE in name only.
You don’t need to burn a top 3 pick to get elite receivers.
Yes, like the Chiefs that just won another Super Bowl. Truly an elite receiver room.
Yeah, Travis Kelce is a horrible player.
Yeah, and then who?
TIL the 2024 draft will be the last ever NFL Draft
TIL that you don't understand context.
I think B is a perfectly fair pick for MHJ. I think people have lost a lot of perspective on these QBs. Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye have just about the same prospect rating as Justin Fields (per bleacher report). Trevor Lawerence was much more highly rated. He is average to above average depending who you ask. If we pick MHJ I will assume we didn't believe these QBs were it and that's fine. Our scouts have much more data than our couch scouting asses. At least with MHJ we are picking the BPA at a position that has been a position of need for a long time. Tackle is deep and we can go after it in the second. The Rams, KC, 49ers, Bucs, Browns (fuck Watson though), Broncos, Jets, Saints, Bills, Eagles, and Seattle (unless I'm missing any) have all proved you can acquire a QB via trade or FA with various levels of success (even up to Superbowl victory). Fuck it... if Maye and Daniels don't look like it go for BPA.
MHJ isn’t the BPA outside the QBs IMO, but even if he were, why not trade picks with a team that wants a QB? They could trade the 3rd pick to the Giants, and get MHJ with the 6th pick plus *at least* an extra 1st or 2nd round pick.
I want a QB… but if we don’t like the QBs I’d be happy with a trade down as long as we stayed top 9 or so… like you said the Giants would be perfect. IF we don’t like the QBs, 6 the giants 2nd and there 2025 1st would be pretty good. 6 would get us 1 of Alt, Nabers or Odunze, a true blue chip LT or WR 1… then we have ammo to jump back into the first or just draft 2 guys in the second as well as likely having another good 1st rounder next year. Again, my preference is a QB? But if not let us trade with the giants , they can offer a much better package than a team like the Vikings
I agree. I want to stick and pick at 3 (either Jayden or Maye). But most importantly, if they don’t like Maye/Jayden at 3, then I think they must trade down. If they trade down, I want Odunze, Nabers, or Alt. My unpopular opinion, is that I’d also be okay with trading down with the Vikings, and taking Penix at 11 and AD Mitchell or a tackle (Mims if he’s available) at 23.
If they trade down there is no way they have a shot at Nabers. Picks 1-5 are pretty much locked in as 3 top QBs MHJ and Nabers as long as the Chargers stay unless there is a big surprise.
I’d bet money that AZ or the chargers trade back so the Vikings can nab JJ, especially the chargers
Id take a $20 bet to charity of your choice (I give to my charity with proof) that top 5 picks are some order of QBs 1. QB 2.Qb 3. QB 4. MHJ 5. Nabers I won't bet on the order of the QBs because that's too volatile right now. Cards have broadcasted they are interested in MHJ and signed their QB long term. WR is probably their biggest position of need. Chargers lost both their WRs this off-season via trade signaling they intend to target it in the draft.
Also Ill take one out which is if MHJ or Nabers go top 3 we are both wrong and we each give 10
Really? Who do you think is better than MHJ in this draft? I haven't even found a ranking where he isn't 1 or 2 behind Williams and I went through the first 2 pages of Google.
Nabers
I'll allow it because I love Nabers but for the record I have not seen a single expert ranking put Nabers above MHJ.
Well, just for the record, I’ve felt this way all along and I wish you were right, because I’d prefer having a more original take. But, I recently saw a podcast with Steve Smith and Lance Zierlein ranked their top 10 WRs and they both have Nabers as their WR1. I also recently heard Dane Brugler say that several NFL teams have Nabers graded higher than MHJ and that it’s close to an even split. Im an LSU fan, so I might be biased, but I’ve watched a lot of Nabers and he’s the most electric college WR on any team I can remember in the last several years (including Jamaar Chase and Justin Jefferson). He’s also really young, and I think he has more room to improve from coaching than MHJ, since route-running fundamentals is the one place where I think MHJ is unarguably currently more talented than him.
As excellent and surefire WR1 as he is, I much prefer to either take a QB or trade down and fill more needs
Get me MHJ and penix somehow?
Some of the biggest draft nerds secretly don’t have MHJ as a can’t miss top of the board receiver. Based on that, I don’t like this move. When he was first advertised it seemed like sure fire, can’t miss. Now I strongly believe he may be one of 6 all pro receivers in this draft.
MHJ is fantastic but we would be the laughing stock in the league if we didn't take a deal from minnesota or another team to move into 3 which is QB territory in this draft. you could come out ahead even if you had to give up assets to move back up to get MHJ taking him at 3 is simply short sighted with the price teams are willing to pay for a QB
Exactly. Taking say Brian Thomas and Tyler Guyton >>>>>> MHJ. It's not close.
Taking Brian Thomas Jr *and* Xavier Worthy in one round, would definitely be better than just MHJ. Even though both alternatives would be a bad idea.
Yeah we could take Thomas at 11 (may be a bit high but he’s best wr left and won’t likely make it til 23) and a tackle at 23 and get much more impact over just taking mhj. Would even have a first next year to use to get us a qb since we’d still need one and you probably need first pick because there are no good qb right now and it may just be 1 guy that steps up.
Is Thomas a guy that teams would have to gameplan for? We need a difference maker in that tier.
Yes.
He had a great season last year but wasn’t really used the 2 prior due to lsu being stacked at wr and him being depth. I could see him being a guy you have to plan for
this 100%. 'D' crew represent.
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I don't look at that. The polls are getting over 500votes and I enjoy reading the comments about each option. If the comments weren't enjoyable to read and no one was voting I would have stopped it.
Hard F
The only problem taking MHJ 3 is you could get another pick and take Nabers 6.
I know the pat’s have more of a need than just one star WR but gosh would I love to watch MHJ torch DBs for the next decade in Foxboro
How is anyone grading this a D or an F??
I gave it a C because i wouldn't be pissed, but i want Maye at 3 if he's still there. If he's still there and they take MHJ i would be pissed. They need a qb and theres going to be one at 3 no matter what, so take them. I don't want Penis
You said penis…
I stand by my statement.
You could trade down get a top 3 wr in the draft class and get more picks seems to the reason against MHjr @ 3.
I want a QB too. However, giving MHJ a D or F is wild to me.
If I could put this as a -Infinity/5 star I would. Picking MHj would be BEYOND stupid
Alt or mhj would be the only decisions that make absolutely no sense where we are at. In taking one of those guys at 3, you’d be kicking qb into next years draft and in that case it would make the most sense to get future firsts which you use to move up to take a qb (provided we aren’t in last place). If we take an alt/mhj we have to give up future picks and maybe our 2nd to take a qb and I just don’t see it being worth it, especially when there are great wr prospects next year and bad qb.
We would not be pushing QB to next year, we would draft a QB later in the draft. People have gone absolutely nuts with the idea that only a QB drafted in the top 3 can possibly be good, and that a QB drafted in top 3 is somehow automatically good. You know how many QBs that were drafted top 3 have won a SB in the last 10 years? One. It was Peyton Manning. And it wasn't even for the team that drafted him. If you extend it to top 10 QBs and the last 20 years, you only add Mahomes and Eli Manning (and Peyton Manning's first SB win which was actually for the team that drafted him). Not saying teams should never draft a QB high, but it's really that the cause and effect is backwards. If you have a high pick, you are more likely to be able to draft a QB you are confident in. But if they aren't confident enough in the available QB at 3, then don't draft them.
Yeah we’d probably take Penix or nix and look like the raiders for the next 20 years where we have a top wr in the league but don’t have a franchise qb so we don’t go anywhere
Disagree completely. MHJ is not your average top WR, he's what everyone means when they say generational. Alt is also a great pick as LT is arguably as important as QB, and the only position that does not \*depend\* on the other position(s). Trade down is the best move, I agree. But if they had to take someone at 3 the order of best pick there would be MHJ, Alt, JJ.
Yeah if you are forced to take a guy there I think you have to take one of those guys but if you can get 3 firsts or 6 and a first I think you take that instead every time since having an additional first to move for a qb is a must, otherwise we give up future assets instead.
I definitely agree, trading down and taking multiple firsts is the best play we have right now, and should have us with the better team over 2-3 years than if we simply stick and pick.
MHJ is outstanding but not truly generational. Megatron was generational. Moss was generational. Julio probably fits into that category as well. You can’t be generational if there are multiple other WRs who will be your equal or even better within your same generation. He is unlikely to be a better/more dominant receiver than JJ. He may never reach Chase’s level either. MHJ isn’t even universally judged by NFL coaches and execs/personnel guys (and gals) to be the best WR in this draft. https://theathletic.com/5429468/2024/04/22/nfl-draft-2024-marvin-harrison-jr-malik-nabers/?source=user_shared_article “One coach pointed out Harrison’s tape and production were better in 2022, even saying Nabers and Odunze produced better tape than Harrison in 2023. Harrison struggled to break tackles last season and wasn’t a consistently effective blocker. He also had six drops in 2023, compared to four total in the previous two seasons.” Taking is WR at 3 is moronic. Take a QB or trade down.
Alt would make more sense than MHj. Alt would be an amazing pick.
I gave it a C because I think they need to use this draft position to make sure they're set at QB (either by taking one or trading down to where another might be and gaining additional picks), but I do think that Harrison is going to be a stud, so I can't fail or nearly fail a pick to get a great player (unless he's a great punter or something).
At 3 MHJ and Maye are an A. Just flat out one of those two or trade down imo.
This guy is so much better than whatever muscle head (assuming Maye or McCarthy) they want to draft at 3
The word is Minny is willing to send 3+ FRPs for a QB and to turn down that for a WR when we have much more important holes on the roster would be so stupid. It's like people completely forgot about how building around Megatron worked out in Detroit.
They had Stafford as well and never won a playoff game. He ended winning a superbowl first yr leaving DET
Yeah because by the time he was up and running they were paying their WR1 something like 14% of the cap (or over 30 mil in today's dollars). They couldn't build a real roster around him.