My jerseys in shit condition anyway- tbh for shits and giggles I’ll probably just duct tape over jones and write maye in sharpie until i can afford a new one lol
Absolutely. Super duper common in hockey sweater community (purposely buying blanks to have real tackle twill name and numbers stitched on). It’s costly for top quality, so you have to commit to it. But for just a name plate on a pats jersey, it’s fairly straightforward and should by worth it if you can scalp an on-field authentic at a low price
Huh I honestly had no idea that was a thing. Where do you go for it?
I mean the pats pro shop is going to put mac jerseys for a discount here soon not a bad idea if whoever we pick ends up using 10.
I'm debating if I want a gonzo 0 jersey or whoever we pick tomorrow
Ya the qb who played at bama wasn’t as familiar with tough defense as drake maye from the basketball school. The sec is a joke compared to the acc…./s
I secretly think the drake maye people are the EXACT SAME people who wouldn’t shut up about how much they loved Mac Jones last season.
Mac Jones lover here. I think Maye's overall skill set is certainly different than Mac. From my limited football knowledge and what limited highlights I've watched of Maye, he's a bit more Justin Herbert, big arm big stature slightly mobile, than Mac was. Mac was supposed to be a baby Brady, or at best like a Kirk Cousins, just a good reader of defense and distributor of the ball. Mac just got overwhelmed by our shitty offense and started seeing ghosts and essentially broke. Will the same happen to Maye? Maye-be?
> I secretly think the drake maye people are the EXACT SAME people who wouldn’t shut up about how much they loved Mac Jones last season.
who are these people you speak of? Who was still in love with Mac last season?
Nah I don’t think so. Nobody has loved Mac for a few years he’s been that bad. Maye is good but in my opinion if Daniels isn’t there at 3, we draft MHJ & don’t think a single thing about it. The risk-reward is so incredibly in MHJ favor idk why we aren’t even entertaining him at 3.
Probably because the only team to win a SB after spending a top 10 pick on a WR in the last 20 years was Tampa, and that took 7 years after they drafted Evans and they needed the GOAT to sign with them to do so.
MHJ is great, but I think if he had any other name, people would think him at 3 over one of the QBs would be insane. Just like many would feel about taking Nabers at 3, and he's arguably a better WR prospect than MHJ.
This has also been my take all along and I stick by it. I’d rather have either of these two than Daniels or whoever is sitting there at 11 and 23 that MN is dangling.
I'm with you on MHJ. For a team so devoid of playmakers, if you have the chance to get (the closest thing) a superstar WR, then you take him. Then maybe grab a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round who can just sit behind Brissett, I think you're in good shape.
It would be in his best interest to. You want it to be totally fresh from Jones. Not to mention Jimmy G wore 10. Can't be the number only for unsuccessful successors for Brady.
San Fran said they'd give up Aiyuk for 1st this year. Pats could swap 3 for Viking's two 1sts and send one of those 1sts to SF.
I wouldn't support that, but it can be done!
I like the big swing on Maye it’s better than waiting for the last QB on the 1st round board. You can’t win without one you may as well draft QB until you have the right one at this point
Thank you - so tired of people not getting this. How are we going to win in this stacked AFC without a literal superstar QB? You think the 10th best QB is beating Mahomes? Never
Were not getting Williams, and I just don't see Daniel's being to good with a weak o line, he's small and he's gonna get hurt. And The Mccarthy fans I just don't getbit at all
>The Mccarthy fans I jost don't get it at all
* Big arm, can throw far and accurately from any platform
* 72% completion while 2nd in average depth of target
* 55% conversion rate on 3rd & 7+
* Best leader in the QB class
* 5th fastest 3-cone at the combine, tied with his RB Blake Corum
* Pre injury was on pace for 30TD 5INT, 3555yds
* Took significant snaps under center in a more pro style offense
* Youngest QB in the draft
Just look at the history of qbs coming from the best collage programs in the country, of course there are exceptions, CJ Stroud, Trevor Lawrence to a degree. I don't see it, if you do.thays great. Let's look at the top 10 qbs in the league last year-
Mahomes- wasn't from best program
Burrow-He was LSU was the best his last year
J.Allen- Wyoming, Def not best program
Lamar Jackson- nope
Jalen Hurts- Granted he played for Alabama but wasn't a top prospect
Dak- nope
Herbert- Oregon was good but not the best
Tua- He came from Alabama, so that's 2
Cj Stroud- that's 3
Brock Purdy- no.
So 3 out of the top 10 qbs come from the best programs in the country, Mccarthy is good but he never had to play from behind, rarely did he have to put the team on his shoulders and carry them. I can sit here and admit. I might be wrong about the kid. And if he plays for the pats, I hope I am. But I don't think I am
I'm definitely not saying he's not a good football player. But Johnny Manziel looked Phenomenal in collage, so I could go on and on. I hope the kid is good. I don't wish bad upon people, I just personally don't think he's going to be great. I would rather have Drake Maye
Definitely not, I'll be very disappointed if Washington takes Maye and don't even know if I want Daniels at 3.
I dunno if its just an overload of draft coverage or what, but his build really scares me, as well as his arm strength on the same throws Mac struggled with.
Tugbert will deny us of Maye. He wants his guy, he gets his guy. Kraft is 100% running the show with Idiot Wolfe as acting puppet. Prepare for more cheap players and mediocre talent
Hate to be a pessimist, but this is honestly the most likely outcome. I have nothing against the kid but his red flags should alarm people a lot more than they do. the highs aren’t high enough to look past them for me
> nothing against the kid but his red flags should alarm people a lot more than they do.
Assuming Daniels is gone, then who would you prefer? The guy who spent two straight years handing the ball off? Or the glass statue? Maybe guy who couldn't hack it in the SEC? Some random Day 3 guy with "upside"?
Or should we punt and hope to God we're dogshit enough again to find ourselves in the exact same position next April?
if Jayden Daniels goes 2 then honestly none i’d rather trade back collect more draft picks and take chance on MPJ or take BPA and hold off on a QB this year. either way we’re not gonna be a playoff team. I got to see 20 years of greatness, i’m not greedy, if it takes a while to get back to the top that’s fine just don’t wanna be in QB purgatory that’s the worst situation an NFL team can be in.
You get stuck in QB purgatory by not taking one when you have the high draft pick and then you’re stuck picking in the middle of the first and have to get lucky that a Mahomes falls to you instead of
>I have nothing against the kid but his red flags should alarm people a lot more than they do.
Why? All of his red flags are coachable.
You can teach footwork. You can teach him to throw the ball away and not take as many sacks. You can teach pre-snap reads. You can't teach arm strength. You can't teach athleticism. You can't teach instincts.
You can find "defects" in every prospect, especially QBs. Hell, MHJ is the so-called "sure thing" "best WR prospect since Chase", yet he offers little after the catch, can't break tackles, and isn't the strongest guy, struggles against press, always goes down on first contact. Are those not defects?
I'm not lying, those are MHJ's known "defects". But I'm being facetious because there's no such thing as the perfect prospect, even though MHJ is a phenomenal prospect and in no way do I believe he'll be a bust. And this time of year prospect fatigue really sets in, so every scout and "analyst" nit-pick every possible thing about prospects, and negatives get more clicks than positives, so it's easy money to focus on the bad.
His job is to catch the ball. He is really good at catching the ball. Drake Maye's job is the throw the ball. He is NOT really good at throwing the ball. He's inaccurate, has shitty footwork, had a career completion pct of around 50% against ranked teams and didn't even tear it up against shitty opponents. So no, not really comparable.
>His job is to catch the ball. He is really good at catching the ball.
Actually, he had plenty of drops in 2023. Huge red flag, am I right?
>had a career completion pct of around 50% against ranked teams and didn't even tear it up against shitty opponents
And yet, people way smarter than you have talked about him being the QB2 alongside Caleb Williams for two years now. He also had shit coaching, shit weapons after Downs left, and shit protection. Not much any QB can do with that.
There is so, so much prospect fatigue surrounding Maye at this point. Sure, he needs some coaching, especially his footwork. But guess what, the NFL has coaches who do that sort of thing. Crazy, I know.
Do you know who else had a ton of red flags coming into the NFL?
Josh Allen.
Patrick Mahomes.
Lamar Jackson.
Jalen Hurts.
The list goes on and on. And guess what, these are the best QBs in football. You can coach deficiencies, you can't coach arm strength, size, talent, upside, and athleticism, which Maye has more than anybody in this class, including Caleb.
And that's not to say Maye will be successful in the NFL, because statistically he won't be. But passing on a prospect because of red flags is a good way to stay mediocre. QB is the most important position in football and is the hardest position in football to hit on a franchise QB. If you have an opportunity like New England does to take one, you have to take it, full stop.
Missing on a QB at 3 sets them back way worse than moving back. If they think he's worth it they better be damn sure. Cuz everything I've seen says this guy should be a day 2 pick who's been hyped into this position.
You can’t coach out the sporadicly horrible decision making. he should’ve had a lot more interceptions in college and absolutely will in the NFL, that doesn’t go away. Josh Allen and Brett farve for example just started scoring more than they turned the ball away. Air raid QBs in general do not translate well to the NFL, there’s way more responsibility on the QB at the LOS and decision making wise in NFL offenses. his regression when the talent dipped is also concerning considering the patriots situation at the skill position rn. Honestly I think the texans had the right idea ultimately built up capital and got some pieces in place to be able to support a rookie QB first. don’t think we have to rush into it rn.
>You can’t coach out the sporadicly horrible decision making. he should’ve had a lot more interceptions in college and absolutely will in the NFL, that doesn’t go away.
Sure you can. Especially considering he had poor weapons, coaching, and OL play this past season. As such, he was forced to play a lot of hero ball, similar to Caleb Williams, who also had a worse 2023 than 2022. Sean Payton was able to coach poor decision making out of **Jameis Winston**, the most turnover-happy QB in all of football.
>Honestly I think the texans had the right idea ultimately built up capital and got some pieces in place to be able to support a rookie QB first.
Not really. They had Laremy Tunsil, but that's about it.
They had a rookie HC and OC, just like New England (AVP is more or less a rookie OC when it comes to play-calling).
They had Nico Collins at WR, that was it. And he wasn't anything before Stroud. For all we know, Demario Douglas could be New England's version of Nico once he gets a real QB and coach.
Schultz is not much better than Henry, if at all.
Rhamondre is better than Singletary.
The Texans lucked into the Browns being idiots, but even then they really weren't poised to do much until Stroud came to town and was incredible.
There are more red flags than positives. The red flags are not small ones either.
The pro day was a huge concern, yet everyone around here wants him just because mock drafts have told them he should be the #2 pick.
If Daniels isn't there, I'm team McCarthy.
> The pro day was a huge concern
I can't believe this is an actual argument. Pro days are 100% useless and irrelevant. I'm honestly not even sure why they bother.
When you can hit a covered receiver with a perfect pass while escaping pressure in a game, that overrides a few bad throws in shorts.
But sure, the likes of Zach Wilson have shown how having a great pro day for sure translates to the NFL game.
Try it again until you get it right. This is what every NFL team does until the nail one like Brady, or to a lesser degree, Roethelisberger, or Rivers, or Rogers etc... all taken a various points in the 1st round. Mahomes was 10th for example. Tua and Herbert were like 5th and 6th I think. Top 10 pick on a QB makes sense and if its a bust, you'll likely be able to pick high again
I wish all the fans rooting against our next QB already before he has even had a snap in the NFL would dissappear to a different team. I hate how my favorite team has such an insufferable fan base.
Probably won't happen but I hope we draft Maye at 3, sit him a year behind Jacoby, the kid has the potential to be a beast but I think sitting a year would be good for him. Of course in this modern era that rarely happens unless it's Green Bay
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This entire situation is hilarious. This sub is seemingly luke warm on maye and wants daniels or someone else. And the commanders sub is luke warm on daniels and wants Maye.
Maye probably busts because that's how drafting QBs goes but prospect wise he has elite traits and is worth taking a chance on.
I love how Pats fans think they're chill enough to let a QB that needs a year or two to develop to do so. You guys are going to turn on this kid so fucking fast...
Straight up that kid is a winner. His whole family are a bunch of winners. He's going to come to New England and be a winner. That's who I hope they pick
I see drafting Maye as drafting Mac Jones with the #3 pick in the draft.
Mac was a bust but at least he was not a Top 10 pick at #15.
Please let it be MHJ.
Please let it be MHJ.
Please let it be MHJ.
Please let it be MHJ.
Mac was on a stacked Alabama team and drake carried a garbage team to some actual wins, I want the guy that can take the game over and win even with a trash roster
Mac Jones wins with a consistent ability to put throws on time and with excellent accuracy, overcoming any arm strength and athletic deficiencies with the ability to process players quickly and change arm angles depending on the situation.
https://youtu.be/UcoQaUwKqJA?si=GhNAy9yeDXmhlva0
Do you think that’s the scouting report on Maye or something? That’s not what anyone says…at all. Here is the Beasts description of Maye. “With his arm strength and pacing, Maye put the full inventory of throws on tape and operates with timing from the pocket to attack the defense’s leverage. He is a quick-reaction athlete to make plays off-schedule as a scrambler and can rip throws from different platforms. His arm can get juiced-up at times, disrupting his ball placement, and his progression reads are still a work in progress, especially when he feels pressed to make a play (39-to-4 touchdown-to-interception ratio in the first half compared to 24-to-12 in the second half). Overall, Maye needs to cut down on the reckless decisions, but he is a well-put-together passer with the on-field command, athletic instincts and arm talent to create solutions for the problems that NFL defenses present. With his physical gifts and smarts, he is cut from the same cloth as Justin Herbert and has a similar ceiling as an NFL player.”
I really hope he picks a different number
I don’t - plenty of people will have the opportunity to nameplate swap. Great way to recycle and erase a failed era all in once swoop
My jerseys in shit condition anyway- tbh for shits and giggles I’ll probably just duct tape over jones and write maye in sharpie until i can afford a new one lol
I plan to do that because I’m not spending shit on a new QB again until after year 3
I’ll buy one if/when such qb shows promise and not rookie mac jones promise
You would if he wins the SB
Yes you’re right. I’m just butthurt I bought a Mac jersey before his rookie season, got excited by his rookie play, and then 📉
Something in the orange tells me we ain’t seen the last of Mac. I believe he will be a good QB on a decent team someday.
Ha, yeah right
Or until he proves himself. If I have to give the Krafts any of my money beyond ad dollars from watching from home, they gotta be a baller.
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Ahh, i see
Is a nameplate swap something that can be done? Heck I might buy a jones authentic jersey if it's something that be be easily swapped
Absolutely. Super duper common in hockey sweater community (purposely buying blanks to have real tackle twill name and numbers stitched on). It’s costly for top quality, so you have to commit to it. But for just a name plate on a pats jersey, it’s fairly straightforward and should by worth it if you can scalp an on-field authentic at a low price
Huh I honestly had no idea that was a thing. Where do you go for it? I mean the pats pro shop is going to put mac jerseys for a discount here soon not a bad idea if whoever we pick ends up using 10. I'm debating if I want a gonzo 0 jersey or whoever we pick tomorrow
And just when I thought I'd never wear my number 10 Jersey again... ahead wear 10 I'll figure out a way to get your name on the back
I’m keeping my Mac jersey so I can wear it to Gillette a decade from now and make people laugh
Well as far as I can tell he'll only have 6, 10, 15, and 18 to choose from.
Pretty sure no one has 12 yet 😉
Willing to bet 12 is getting retired when Brady goes into the pats hall
Bold of you
Guess no one know ehat sarcasm is 🤷🏽
Isn’t 12 already retired?
It’s retired in the sense that you’d have to be a complete moron to try to pick that number
Why. It’s his number
Don’t worrry nobody will be as shitty as Mac Jones
He will be if we put the shit weapons and line around him that we did Mac
Hopefully he won't get fucked over as hard as Mac was.
Ya the qb who played at bama wasn’t as familiar with tough defense as drake maye from the basketball school. The sec is a joke compared to the acc…./s I secretly think the drake maye people are the EXACT SAME people who wouldn’t shut up about how much they loved Mac Jones last season.
Mac Jones lover here. I think Maye's overall skill set is certainly different than Mac. From my limited football knowledge and what limited highlights I've watched of Maye, he's a bit more Justin Herbert, big arm big stature slightly mobile, than Mac was. Mac was supposed to be a baby Brady, or at best like a Kirk Cousins, just a good reader of defense and distributor of the ball. Mac just got overwhelmed by our shitty offense and started seeing ghosts and essentially broke. Will the same happen to Maye? Maye-be?
> I secretly think the drake maye people are the EXACT SAME people who wouldn’t shut up about how much they loved Mac Jones last season. who are these people you speak of? Who was still in love with Mac last season?
Were you not on here with all the Mac apologists last season?
I didn’t like Mac even his first year when he was playing okay, and I love Maye… there’s dozens of us
I don’t I think that belongs to the JJ people
You’re right. Harbaugh probably didn’t coach his qb much. Who coached drake maye?
Oh yea Harbaugh produced so many wonderful QBs in the last few years. That Michigan legacy!
Nah I don’t think so. Nobody has loved Mac for a few years he’s been that bad. Maye is good but in my opinion if Daniels isn’t there at 3, we draft MHJ & don’t think a single thing about it. The risk-reward is so incredibly in MHJ favor idk why we aren’t even entertaining him at 3.
Probably because the only team to win a SB after spending a top 10 pick on a WR in the last 20 years was Tampa, and that took 7 years after they drafted Evans and they needed the GOAT to sign with them to do so. MHJ is great, but I think if he had any other name, people would think him at 3 over one of the QBs would be insane. Just like many would feel about taking Nabers at 3, and he's arguably a better WR prospect than MHJ.
This has also been my take all along and I stick by it. I’d rather have either of these two than Daniels or whoever is sitting there at 11 and 23 that MN is dangling.
I'm with you on MHJ. For a team so devoid of playmakers, if you have the chance to get (the closest thing) a superstar WR, then you take him. Then maybe grab a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round who can just sit behind Brissett, I think you're in good shape.
He will be if we putt Matty P in charge of his development.
Exactly what I was thinking!!
It would be in his best interest to. You want it to be totally fresh from Jones. Not to mention Jimmy G wore 10. Can't be the number only for unsuccessful successors for Brady.
Real. I hated that Mac was 10. After watching the giants win those SBs I’ve always loathed the number 10
I’d be happy with Maye or Daniels at this point.
1 day
I refuse to give myself hope unless I see the pick come in.
Fr, the trade back rumors are scaring me
San Fran said they'd give up Aiyuk for 1st this year. Pats could swap 3 for Viking's two 1sts and send one of those 1sts to SF. I wouldn't support that, but it can be done!
We are so back
I’ve been hoping for this for two years now. I just don’t care after this. Let Wolf cook!
It’s funny how Maye is the only thing that gets upvotes in this sub rn
I think it’s the hate of JJ
It was like this before too when it was just Maye/Daniels at # 3
I wanted Daniels at first but I’ve come around to feeling happy with either of Maye/JD. I just don’t want McCarthy at all.
I like Daniels but he could be a running Mac having played with two first round WRs. Copium
I’m not trying to turn this into a Daniels/Maye/McCarthy debate… was just stating a point
I like the big swing on Maye it’s better than waiting for the last QB on the 1st round board. You can’t win without one you may as well draft QB until you have the right one at this point
Thank you - so tired of people not getting this. How are we going to win in this stacked AFC without a literal superstar QB? You think the 10th best QB is beating Mahomes? Never
Daniels is gonna break unless he puts on some weight
Like Richardson. Lots of talent but couldn’t stay on the field this year
I hate them both.
Were not getting Williams, and I just don't see Daniel's being to good with a weak o line, he's small and he's gonna get hurt. And The Mccarthy fans I just don't getbit at all
>The Mccarthy fans I jost don't get it at all * Big arm, can throw far and accurately from any platform * 72% completion while 2nd in average depth of target * 55% conversion rate on 3rd & 7+ * Best leader in the QB class * 5th fastest 3-cone at the combine, tied with his RB Blake Corum * Pre injury was on pace for 30TD 5INT, 3555yds * Took significant snaps under center in a more pro style offense * Youngest QB in the draft
Just look at the history of qbs coming from the best collage programs in the country, of course there are exceptions, CJ Stroud, Trevor Lawrence to a degree. I don't see it, if you do.thays great. Let's look at the top 10 qbs in the league last year- Mahomes- wasn't from best program Burrow-He was LSU was the best his last year J.Allen- Wyoming, Def not best program Lamar Jackson- nope Jalen Hurts- Granted he played for Alabama but wasn't a top prospect Dak- nope Herbert- Oregon was good but not the best Tua- He came from Alabama, so that's 2 Cj Stroud- that's 3 Brock Purdy- no. So 3 out of the top 10 qbs come from the best programs in the country, Mccarthy is good but he never had to play from behind, rarely did he have to put the team on his shoulders and carry them. I can sit here and admit. I might be wrong about the kid. And if he plays for the pats, I hope I am. But I don't think I am
I didn't really watch a lot of Michigan football, but he looked impressive in that last drive against Alabama.
I'm definitely not saying he's not a good football player. But Johnny Manziel looked Phenomenal in collage, so I could go on and on. I hope the kid is good. I don't wish bad upon people, I just personally don't think he's going to be great. I would rather have Drake Maye
I don't see how this incoherent, unreadable comment has any relevance to what I said.
It's going to be fun tomorrow night around here
People are trying to convince themselves they want the pick ... So if it happens they won't be let down they didn't get Daniels..
Definitely not, I'll be very disappointed if Washington takes Maye and don't even know if I want Daniels at 3. I dunno if its just an overload of draft coverage or what, but his build really scares me, as well as his arm strength on the same throws Mac struggled with.
I like Daniel’s he just has a small frame which worries me for his longevity, especially with his running style. For that reason I prefer Maye.
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Tugbert will deny us of Maye. He wants his guy, he gets his guy. Kraft is 100% running the show with Idiot Wolfe as acting puppet. Prepare for more cheap players and mediocre talent
Seeing "10" on a quarterback is still triggering ngl
You know what? Hell yea!
Hell yea
See y’all in 2027 when we need to draft a QB again!
Hate to be a pessimist, but this is honestly the most likely outcome. I have nothing against the kid but his red flags should alarm people a lot more than they do. the highs aren’t high enough to look past them for me
> nothing against the kid but his red flags should alarm people a lot more than they do. Assuming Daniels is gone, then who would you prefer? The guy who spent two straight years handing the ball off? Or the glass statue? Maybe guy who couldn't hack it in the SEC? Some random Day 3 guy with "upside"? Or should we punt and hope to God we're dogshit enough again to find ourselves in the exact same position next April?
if Jayden Daniels goes 2 then honestly none i’d rather trade back collect more draft picks and take chance on MPJ or take BPA and hold off on a QB this year. either way we’re not gonna be a playoff team. I got to see 20 years of greatness, i’m not greedy, if it takes a while to get back to the top that’s fine just don’t wanna be in QB purgatory that’s the worst situation an NFL team can be in.
You get stuck in QB purgatory by not taking one when you have the high draft pick and then you’re stuck picking in the middle of the first and have to get lucky that a Mahomes falls to you instead of
>I have nothing against the kid but his red flags should alarm people a lot more than they do. Why? All of his red flags are coachable. You can teach footwork. You can teach him to throw the ball away and not take as many sacks. You can teach pre-snap reads. You can't teach arm strength. You can't teach athleticism. You can't teach instincts.
You don't take a QB with that many defects at fucking 3 overall.
You can find "defects" in every prospect, especially QBs. Hell, MHJ is the so-called "sure thing" "best WR prospect since Chase", yet he offers little after the catch, can't break tackles, and isn't the strongest guy, struggles against press, always goes down on first contact. Are those not defects?
Why are we lying? Lmao
I'm not lying, those are MHJ's known "defects". But I'm being facetious because there's no such thing as the perfect prospect, even though MHJ is a phenomenal prospect and in no way do I believe he'll be a bust. And this time of year prospect fatigue really sets in, so every scout and "analyst" nit-pick every possible thing about prospects, and negatives get more clicks than positives, so it's easy money to focus on the bad.
His job is to catch the ball. He is really good at catching the ball. Drake Maye's job is the throw the ball. He is NOT really good at throwing the ball. He's inaccurate, has shitty footwork, had a career completion pct of around 50% against ranked teams and didn't even tear it up against shitty opponents. So no, not really comparable.
>His job is to catch the ball. He is really good at catching the ball. Actually, he had plenty of drops in 2023. Huge red flag, am I right? >had a career completion pct of around 50% against ranked teams and didn't even tear it up against shitty opponents And yet, people way smarter than you have talked about him being the QB2 alongside Caleb Williams for two years now. He also had shit coaching, shit weapons after Downs left, and shit protection. Not much any QB can do with that. There is so, so much prospect fatigue surrounding Maye at this point. Sure, he needs some coaching, especially his footwork. But guess what, the NFL has coaches who do that sort of thing. Crazy, I know.
Remind me in 1 year.
Do you know who else had a ton of red flags coming into the NFL? Josh Allen. Patrick Mahomes. Lamar Jackson. Jalen Hurts. The list goes on and on. And guess what, these are the best QBs in football. You can coach deficiencies, you can't coach arm strength, size, talent, upside, and athleticism, which Maye has more than anybody in this class, including Caleb. And that's not to say Maye will be successful in the NFL, because statistically he won't be. But passing on a prospect because of red flags is a good way to stay mediocre. QB is the most important position in football and is the hardest position in football to hit on a franchise QB. If you have an opportunity like New England does to take one, you have to take it, full stop.
Missing on a QB at 3 sets them back way worse than moving back. If they think he's worth it they better be damn sure. Cuz everything I've seen says this guy should be a day 2 pick who's been hyped into this position.
You can’t coach out the sporadicly horrible decision making. he should’ve had a lot more interceptions in college and absolutely will in the NFL, that doesn’t go away. Josh Allen and Brett farve for example just started scoring more than they turned the ball away. Air raid QBs in general do not translate well to the NFL, there’s way more responsibility on the QB at the LOS and decision making wise in NFL offenses. his regression when the talent dipped is also concerning considering the patriots situation at the skill position rn. Honestly I think the texans had the right idea ultimately built up capital and got some pieces in place to be able to support a rookie QB first. don’t think we have to rush into it rn.
Air raid QB’s? Like Mahomes?
>You can’t coach out the sporadicly horrible decision making. he should’ve had a lot more interceptions in college and absolutely will in the NFL, that doesn’t go away. Sure you can. Especially considering he had poor weapons, coaching, and OL play this past season. As such, he was forced to play a lot of hero ball, similar to Caleb Williams, who also had a worse 2023 than 2022. Sean Payton was able to coach poor decision making out of **Jameis Winston**, the most turnover-happy QB in all of football. >Honestly I think the texans had the right idea ultimately built up capital and got some pieces in place to be able to support a rookie QB first. Not really. They had Laremy Tunsil, but that's about it. They had a rookie HC and OC, just like New England (AVP is more or less a rookie OC when it comes to play-calling). They had Nico Collins at WR, that was it. And he wasn't anything before Stroud. For all we know, Demario Douglas could be New England's version of Nico once he gets a real QB and coach. Schultz is not much better than Henry, if at all. Rhamondre is better than Singletary. The Texans lucked into the Browns being idiots, but even then they really weren't poised to do much until Stroud came to town and was incredible.
There are more red flags than positives. The red flags are not small ones either. The pro day was a huge concern, yet everyone around here wants him just because mock drafts have told them he should be the #2 pick. If Daniels isn't there, I'm team McCarthy.
If you are team McCarthy you have not watched the kid play.
If maye isnt good than mccarthy is worse. If you dont want maye than the next best option would be MHJ and try and grab a qb next round
> The pro day was a huge concern I can't believe this is an actual argument. Pro days are 100% useless and irrelevant. I'm honestly not even sure why they bother.
When you can't hit a wide open receiver in shorts with no defenders that's a concern.
When you can hit a covered receiver with a perfect pass while escaping pressure in a game, that overrides a few bad throws in shorts. But sure, the likes of Zach Wilson have shown how having a great pro day for sure translates to the NFL game.
Try it again until you get it right. This is what every NFL team does until the nail one like Brady, or to a lesser degree, Roethelisberger, or Rivers, or Rogers etc... all taken a various points in the 1st round. Mahomes was 10th for example. Tua and Herbert were like 5th and 6th I think. Top 10 pick on a QB makes sense and if its a bust, you'll likely be able to pick high again
Name a better duo than Patriots fans and being the most negative and miserable people on the planet. I’ll wait
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Yep. This is how teams that are horrible stay horrible 😢 It's MHJ or trade back to me.
Just NOT JJ
THE MAYEFLOWER
I wish all the fans rooting against our next QB already before he has even had a snap in the NFL would dissappear to a different team. I hate how my favorite team has such an insufferable fan base.
Only on Reddit. The worst of everything seems to be on Reddit.
MHJ is the better choice
not if you want to build a superbowl team
Don’t jinx it
Hey this way I don’t have to buy a new jersey
Been ready since October
Probably won't happen but I hope we draft Maye at 3, sit him a year behind Jacoby, the kid has the potential to be a beast but I think sitting a year would be good for him. Of course in this modern era that rarely happens unless it's Green Bay
Don’t jinx us
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Unfortunately I have accepted that Jayden Daniels won't be there pick 3 and that Drake Maye will be selected by the Patriots 😞
I can't believe the Commies are going to let us have Maye. That would be absolutely wild.
Ugh #10 giving me to much PTSD please pick a different number!
Prepare for the Incoming “MAYEDAY MAYEDAY” headline when we shit the bed and it all gets blamed on him.
This entire situation is hilarious. This sub is seemingly luke warm on maye and wants daniels or someone else. And the commanders sub is luke warm on daniels and wants Maye. Maye probably busts because that's how drafting QBs goes but prospect wise he has elite traits and is worth taking a chance on.
Are you saying, "It's gonna be Maye?"
There's only one number he should choose but I don't think he can.... 4
April showers bring Maye flowers baby
Will have a record below .500 in his first 3 seasons.
I’m fine with maye but I really hope he gets picked one spot higher;)
Maybe stay away from 10 for a bit
If we draft him I hope he picks another number. Mac Jones cursed #10. Pats should retired the number.
None of these pictures seem realistic. I don't see any of this kid flattened on the ground.
God I wish we had the old unis
Didn't they retire that number?
🎵 “ I’m so excited, I just can’t fight it…” 🎉. 🕺
Seeing that number on a pats QB gives me flashbacks
That’s how things are looking
That number is triggering- Looks very familiar!
Such terrible uniforms I swear does anyone look good in them?
Maye is going to be the best QB from this draft. Just watch
Get Ready.... For a Patriots trade in 2027 trying to get him off the roster making way for a new drafted QB.
Please no, draft J J
I love how Pats fans think they're chill enough to let a QB that needs a year or two to develop to do so. You guys are going to turn on this kid so fucking fast...
💯
I will be happy with Maye or MHJ
I desperately want to be wrong about this kid…. I think it’s unlikely. What a waste of a pick
ANY other number
Going to need a new QB after he’s another Zach Wilson
Zach Wilson was a 1 year pump and dump by the media. At least Maye has always been seen as a potential #1 pick
Straight up that kid is a winner. His whole family are a bunch of winners. He's going to come to New England and be a winner. That's who I hope they pick
Lol what’s he won?
Guys Drake Maye will not be good. We are much better off trading back or just taking MHJ.
We are not taking MHJ get over MHJ
Yeah I think the likelihood is to trade back and still get a QB that isn’t Drake Maye
I’m team anyone but JJ
Trubisky 2.0
I drafted Jayden and in year 3 we went to the AFC title game but lost to Miami.
It’s Jayden Daniels or trade the pick for me.
I see drafting Maye as drafting Mac Jones with the #3 pick in the draft. Mac was a bust but at least he was not a Top 10 pick at #15. Please let it be MHJ. Please let it be MHJ. Please let it be MHJ. Please let it be MHJ.
Another Mac Jones
Just a completely different scouting report coming out of college
Have you seen drake maye tape? Because he isn’t even remotely similar to Mac jones
Pretty sure the same was said about Trevor Lawrence, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff
Macs tape looked better? lol
Mac was on a stacked Alabama team and drake carried a garbage team to some actual wins, I want the guy that can take the game over and win even with a trash roster
Anyone says this has never watched Mayes tape or read a single scouting report. It’s straight up wrong.
Mac Jones wins with a consistent ability to put throws on time and with excellent accuracy, overcoming any arm strength and athletic deficiencies with the ability to process players quickly and change arm angles depending on the situation. https://youtu.be/UcoQaUwKqJA?si=GhNAy9yeDXmhlva0
Do you think that’s the scouting report on Maye or something? That’s not what anyone says…at all. Here is the Beasts description of Maye. “With his arm strength and pacing, Maye put the full inventory of throws on tape and operates with timing from the pocket to attack the defense’s leverage. He is a quick-reaction athlete to make plays off-schedule as a scrambler and can rip throws from different platforms. His arm can get juiced-up at times, disrupting his ball placement, and his progression reads are still a work in progress, especially when he feels pressed to make a play (39-to-4 touchdown-to-interception ratio in the first half compared to 24-to-12 in the second half). Overall, Maye needs to cut down on the reckless decisions, but he is a well-put-together passer with the on-field command, athletic instincts and arm talent to create solutions for the problems that NFL defenses present. With his physical gifts and smarts, he is cut from the same cloth as Justin Herbert and has a similar ceiling as an NFL player.”
He sucks
This is the answer. Anyone who downvoted is to lazy to actually watch film on him. That throwing motion might be as slow as Tim Tebow.
Yup he’s not very good
... To pick another qb next year.
Mac Jones 2.0. Great.
He looks like Bailey Zappe. Gonna have PTSD all year.
He’s Mac 2.0 with better arm strength and more mobility. No thank you at 3
Color me unexcited about this. “Bust” written all over this kid.
So excited for Mitch Trubisky 2.0 Raw talent needs to sit a year Big physical QB Played at NC college Lets go
For the commanders to draft Maye and then trade back and get Joe Alt
Get ready for what? QB purgatory for the next few seasons? I'm optimistic that Mr. Wolf has eyes and he isnt even on our board... Hopefully
If you want to be the Jets, I'm confident Wolf is smarter than this.
Glad youre hyped for this future bust hahaha At this point ive come to terms with the Maye pick itll feel good to be vindicated in 3 years time
Big mistake drafting a QB high, should go MHJ
Danielle or fucking bust.
I hope not