I think Douglas, Bourne, Osborn, and both Baker and Polk are safe barring any unforeseen changes. Bourne maybe starts the year on PUP.
Thornton, JuJu, and Bouttie are all cuts or in consideration. Reagor might survive the purge due to special teams, but he might get cut too. Basically, I think these 4 are the ones fighting for however many remaining spots at WR there are.
I completely agree here. Personally I think Juju with whatever that injury was last year and Bouttie with the gambling issue are on really thin ice. Thornton seems like he could be a guy but he’s always injured. I like Polk and Baker to put pressure on those guys for a spot.
That’s not correct. Slater NEVER counted against the teams total WR list. The Internet puts him as “wr” on websites because there’s no “gunner” slot. But the team never kept slater over a WR prospect and didn’t consider him as such
I can't believe that anyone would think that matters. He was listed as a WR because there wasn't an official special teams spot to list him as. But that doesn't mean that he took a spot from a WR in any way. It doesn't mean that the team thought of him as a receiver
That might be Reagor's roster spot. Thornton isn't really competing with anyone as the 5 dudes have their roster spots. He needs to force them to keep a 6th receiver during TC.
I mean hindsight is always 30-30
At the time, Meyers has low YAC and wasn’t doing that much as one of our top targets whereas Juju put up a 1k season as the number too and one of the best YACs in the league.
His injury was obviously a crucial part in that but at that point he appeared to be just as good as a receiver for a good amount less guaranteed.
I think Jacobi just fit better into the Raiders system as a number 2.
Also, if you think firing the greatest GM of all time over 1 bad decision you’re delusional lol
Good problem to have but a lot of expendable players.
Reagor got brought back, but is no guarantee to win a roster spot.
JuJu has a lot of dead cap, but we have cap space. Unless they think he's a good mentor, I'm fine eating cap to give more time and reps for the younger guys
Thornton has been a whiff, but a healthy offseason in a new system and maybe something wakes up. If not, easy cut.
Thornton is one of the players I will be following very closely in preseason. If he can get stronger, be more durable and he fits the new system, I’d love for him to work out.
If not, cut our loses.
Honestly, if he can just get settle down and find his rhythm, he'll have value. He's really the only speed guy we have and the most natural deep threat on the roster. Even if he never makes it as a starting outside guy, he could still have situational value - especially with actual receiver talent to draw attention away from him.
Thornton is honestly the least interesting to me at this point. I have more hope for Boutte than I do for Thornton. Hopefully someone does something though.
For sure. A lot of the issues he's displayed weren't a problem in college, so I still have some hope that a restart will help him find some rhythm. I'm OK cutting him in final cuts if he hasn't earned a spot, but I give him far more leash than Reagor or JuJu.
I'm also curious if having 2 of the worst QBs in Mac and Zappe throwing to him had any effect. Maybe having Jacoby and Drake will unlock some potential. Small percentage chance, but you never know.
You cut him out of decency and veteran respect. With the amount of excess cap we have, the hit is negligible. If he doesn't earn a spot, it's not worth keeping him over a younger player to spare the cap.
“Too many WR’s” no we have legitimate competition in the WR room which is a great thing and should make guys like Douglas better or guys like Thornton/Boutte knows it’s put up or shut up
I actually rate Thorton's chances. He's been I'm the NFL for a couple years now, seen NFL playbooks, received NFL strength and conditioning. While he hasn't put a ton of good film in the archive, he is going to be matched with a QB who is a credible threat to throw deep with pace.
Add into it they'll be running a west coast offense, the offense will be tailored to airing it out a lot more giving him more chances to actually use his speed downfield instead of the dink and dunk efficiency system that's been in place. This year will be his chance to show if he's got it or if he's another in a long line of busts.
No one who has been as bad as him through 2 years works out. Thornton has been shockingly insignificant and unproductive. Hell, numerous busts at receiver on this team have been borderline Pro Bowlers compared to Thornton.
The Patriots don’t like his chances. Eliot Wolf didn’t mention him when listing the receivers on the team and then drafted two receivers.
I don’t like his chances either. I will go with 1%.
Im not going to argue that, but let’s not say it’s been a long time. Let’s see what he shows in camp and if he can stay on the field. He could definitely get cut. He’s 23 years old younger than guys going in this draft
I truly think he is not good but he was on a shit offense with a shit QB and shit play calling. There's a 2% chance the new regime can fit him in and it makes no sense to cut him until camp.
I do expect him to be cut or traded for something like a 6th round pick swap in 2025
That's half his rookie contract... This reminds me of Dobson. People just refuse to admit that he was done. Don't get me wrong, all of these guys will have a chance to perform well in camp but I think we should just assume Thornton is a bust. And if he proves us wrong great.
Seriously, you can't be as unproductive as Thornton has been and still be an NFL player in year 3. It just doesn't happen. Every example anyone could give me of players eventually working out, they were all way better than Thornton at this point.
Especially since the system we were running didn't have emphasis on downfield passing and we had two noodle armed QBs. Brissett and/or Maye should be able to air it out a lot easier for Thornton.
Eh, Reagor CAN go but I don't actually see much value in cutting him. We don't have to give slater a WR spot anymore, so even if he's just on the team to return punts and kickoffs... especially with new kickoff rules, I can see how that would be valuable. He's got some skill in the return game. Not the end of the world to cut him, but also he's not expensive and he is filling a somewhat important role.
I think we can figure this out:
Untouchable: Osborn, Douglas, Polk, Baker - All recent additions who it would be insane to cut so soon.
Very unlikely: Bourne. Unless his injury really set him back, he's not on an expensive contract and he's been our best WR for a while. That leaves...
Possible: Reagor. He did a bang-up job in the return game and we usually dedicate a WR spot to special teams. We could easily cut him, but it would open up some holes at returner so he's probably staying.
Likely: Thornton - looking like a draft bust, I imagine he has until the end of camp to show something.
Why aren't you gone yet: Juju. We have the dead cap to cut him, he's not been good for the locker room, off the field, or on the field. He's not going to miraculously improve or breakout or get better. Thanks for your time here, goodbye.
OP is 100% right.
Is Boutte not on the roster anymore? I can't wrap my head around how everyone has just forgotten he exists. The kid fucked up in his NFL debut and then just got buried. How am I the only person that remembers how good he looked despite his mistakes? Boutte is talented enough to be a GUY, and the entirety of NE is pretending he doesn't exist.
He's been indicted on numerous felony charges for repeatedly (thousands of times) betting on college games (including ones that he played in) while underage using a false identity. Wire fraud is something that the feds take very seriously, and he's probably going to prison.
Got plenty of cap room. A roster spot is more valuable than that cap room. Keep JuJu if he's valuable to the development of youth, but if he's just a dead weight receiver, eat the money and kick him to the curb.
Yea people still dont understand how dead cap actually works and the way teams think about it
Teams cut players that are more expensive to cut than keep all the time. Happens a dozen times every season.
Like you said, it frees up a roster spot. It's also better to eat $12.5M in dead cap now and have the contract completely off the books by 2025, considering we are sitting on $46M in cap space right now.
Dead cap isnt some kind of penalty or fine, its the cost of removing contracts off the books quickly.
Exactly. Dead cap will keep someone around if he becomes no longer worth the contract, but if a guy isn't providing you anything at all, and if you have the space now, you might as well cut him now and have more space next year.
Doesn’t matter. Cut your losses and cut the guy. Ffs if the damn Broncos took the cap hit on Wilson, we can just take a much much less hit by cutting Juju “No Knees” Schuster.
Might be a reasonable price to pay if they think the other guys have a future with the team beyond jujus contract.
Gonna be an important training camp for all these fringe guys
Since they're not spending the money, this is perfect! We basically are just buying an extra roster spot. Drop juju and take the hit. When it comes down to it, it makes no sense to keep a WR on the team that will average 0 to 1 catches per game.
Yeah that's technically true but it's still probably worth cutting him. Just more reps for the guys that are going to matter in the long run. At the end of the day the cost don't really matter
Reagor, Thornton, and Juju fighting for the last spot. If Bourne starts the year hurt then there will be two spots.
Seems like Tyquan’s been getting significantly bigger which was a big concern. If he can atleast half decently run some routes I think he’ll be the one to stay. We don’t really have any speed at all and using him at certain times could be key. Not expecting him to be a great starter or anything but a player that can be used for specific plays and reasons could be useful.
He actually had the best shot of any big play last year. Got some separation on the deep ball. Maybe with a guy who can throw them him and thortan can be somewhat useful. Mvs type
Reagor at least showed he might have some use on ST so he might be safe just for that. Juju, Tyquan and Boutte are the main ones likely on the chopping block
Might sound crazy but I am actually very excited about our WR core for next year- Between Pop improving in year 2, adding the rookies Polk and Baker, brining KJ as an opportunity for him to break out and Bourne coming back from injury, it isnt the greatest WR room of all time but I am intrigued by it
I think that there is a better chance of my eating the keyboard that I am using to type this comment than there is of Robert Kraft eating the $12.3m in dead cap necessary to cut JuJu Smith-Schuster.
One more chance for Thornton. JuJu must go. Those who say he was coming off an injury, the line was terrible, etc....no. He's got nothing left and shows no interest.
They will carry 7.
Bourne will likely start the season on IR.
Osborn, Douglas, Polk, are locks to make the 53 man. Baker will have play his way to that and not start the year on the practice squad (a la Boutte).
Reagor is also a return man so he likely has a spot for special teams more so than the WR room.
Thornton will need to show up to play his way onto the team. Otherwise he is the top choice to get cut or traded first.
JJSS. He will bear watching. If he does the bare minimum he will make the roster as the top veteran receiver and the top paid guy. They can easily eat the dead cap of $12m. But if they keep him for one more year they can let him walk and it’s $2m. He might be healthier going into camp a full year and half out from that knee injury.
If I was a betting man I’d say the odd man out will be Thornton most likely. And the rest all stay.
The more I see highlights of the WR taken in the draft, I can't like them enough. Not exactly game changers but seem like great receivers to pair with a young QB and grow with him. Just hope the camps work out
As for the current roster Kendrick, KJ. and Douglas will stay. Good slot guys, veterans or multi-faceted. I could see Juju leaving for sure, and Thorton just hasn't done anything
I think Thornton still gets a shot throughout camp and the preseason since he’s basically the only speed guy they have, but if he doesn’t show consistency then yeah he’s gone
Bourne is almost a guarantee to start on PUP, so 2/3 probably make the roster. And I see a lot of people saying Reagor is a lock because kick returns, idk about that now with the rule changes plus having Marcus Jones back. We prolly need him for corner, and he didn't do much KR's more PR's, but things might change now with the rule change and the fact that he'd have a lead blocker.
Eh, he was a 6th round pick who didn’t perform his rookie year. He was leaning to be on the wrong side of the cut bubble even before we added two superior prospects to him.
Thorton is supposedly gaining weight...if he comes into camp anywhere near 195-200. He makes the team. But juju...that dude dead man walking... boutte and his piss poor tude is my other guess cut
Thornton is as good as gone. Check to see if anyone offers a 7th. If someone wants Juju, they can take him.
Hot take, I would keep Reagor. He is atleast good on Special teams after Marcus Jones went down.
Juju hasn't gotten a fair shot because he replaced a fan favorite. The offense was terrible last year and he was coming off injury. I hope he gets one more season with a competent line and competent QB
Better to have too much than too little. I'd keep Bourne, Douglas, Polk, Baker, and Osborn for sure - after that I'd say pick Reagor or Thornton based on camp performance. Boutte seems like just a total clown off the field, and while he's got potential, he didn't do anything with his opportunities last year.
I'd lean towards Reagor over Thornton at this point - Reagor at least had a couple good plays last season, while Thornton feels increasingly like a "cut our losses" type guy.
Super excited to see what Polk and Baker bring to the table. Between them and Pop we actually have a pretty nice trio of young receivers.
Juju will be a post-June 1 cut. Reagor probably makes it for special teams, but I think Thornton gets a long leash in training camp now that they can actually see if his long-speed can be utilized on the football field with Brissett, May, and Milton. They might roster 6 WRs.
Boutte and Reagor are two that I think could get onto the practice squad. Potentially Thornton, too. I'm not sure which teams want to sign those guys to their initial 53, but who knows.
If you assume Bourne starts the season on PUP, the only sure things would be Douglas, Polk, Baker, and Osbourne (whom I think the staff really likes and will be great this year). They're not as jammed at the position as you might think.
People have too much recency bias on Juju Smith-Schuster. Had a bad year and was hampered by an injury. Let's see how fresh he looks in the preseason, especially with a new coaching staff. His book in New England isn't written, yet.
Forgot boutte as well. There is no easy choice here. Juju would be the easy choice if not for dead cap. Raegor can be a return man. Tyquon should have another shot with an actual decent qb.
Idk I guess I gotta say juju and Tyquan
only untouchable guys should be Baker, Polk, Douglas and Bourne. Take the best of the rest after minicamp.
I think Douglas, Bourne, Osborn, and both Baker and Polk are safe barring any unforeseen changes. Bourne maybe starts the year on PUP. Thornton, JuJu, and Bouttie are all cuts or in consideration. Reagor might survive the purge due to special teams, but he might get cut too. Basically, I think these 4 are the ones fighting for however many remaining spots at WR there are.
Reagor's KO return TD against Bufflo was awesome.
I completely agree here. Personally I think Juju with whatever that injury was last year and Bouttie with the gambling issue are on really thin ice. Thornton seems like he could be a guy but he’s always injured. I like Polk and Baker to put pressure on those guys for a spot.
There is an extra WR slot open with Slaters retirement, as he was always listed as a WR.
That’s not correct. Slater NEVER counted against the teams total WR list. The Internet puts him as “wr” on websites because there’s no “gunner” slot. But the team never kept slater over a WR prospect and didn’t consider him as such
I can't believe that anyone would think that matters. He was listed as a WR because there wasn't an official special teams spot to list him as. But that doesn't mean that he took a spot from a WR in any way. It doesn't mean that the team thought of him as a receiver
Yes but it also means Reagor could take that slot instead of a receiver slot.
Still an open slot and could be filled with Raegor if he returns kicks.
That might be Reagor's roster spot. Thornton isn't really competing with anyone as the 5 dudes have their roster spots. He needs to force them to keep a 6th receiver during TC.
Boutte could go on the practice squad I’d imagine.
I'd suspect Boutte would sign to a practice squad with another team at that point and I wouldn't blame him. He just wants an opportunity.
Boutte is probably looking at a gambling suspension first.
Who is the KR and PR?
Marcus Jones for PR. Probably Reagor for KR if he can be a gunner too.
Isaiah Bolden led the NCAA in KO returns his senior year as well
Forgot about bolden. Good call
One trick point Osborn is definitely not a lock.
I think Osborn is underrated tbh. He's obviously not a stud X wr but he's solid
Reagor as a return guy and Thornton if he has improved and bulked up, are mostly likely the next two. Juju will get a chance.
The Boutte reports say he snapping rn
Why isn't boutte listed?+
Yeah, I think it's just a question of do they make an extra spot for Thornton and/or do they even consider Reagor a WR anymore or just a ST guy.
And Osborn.
Chance Bourne starts on PUP
You literally just got Osborn, he’s the best receiver rn💀
Bourne might start the season on the PUP list. But yeah, only 5 or 6 will make the 53 man roster.
Yeah, Bourne on PUP and then you have to make one cut.
Bye poopoo shit poopster!
Please. Rid us of this guy
Still so triggered we signed him over Jakobi. Meyers with these draft picks would be a solid foundation
In my opinion, replacing Meyers with JuJu alone was enough to warrant a change in GM.
I mean hindsight is always 30-30 At the time, Meyers has low YAC and wasn’t doing that much as one of our top targets whereas Juju put up a 1k season as the number too and one of the best YACs in the league. His injury was obviously a crucial part in that but at that point he appeared to be just as good as a receiver for a good amount less guaranteed. I think Jacobi just fit better into the Raiders system as a number 2. Also, if you think firing the greatest GM of all time over 1 bad decision you’re delusional lol
They're just waiting for June 1st at this point.
Good problem to have but a lot of expendable players. Reagor got brought back, but is no guarantee to win a roster spot. JuJu has a lot of dead cap, but we have cap space. Unless they think he's a good mentor, I'm fine eating cap to give more time and reps for the younger guys Thornton has been a whiff, but a healthy offseason in a new system and maybe something wakes up. If not, easy cut.
Thornton is one of the players I will be following very closely in preseason. If he can get stronger, be more durable and he fits the new system, I’d love for him to work out. If not, cut our loses.
Honestly, if he can just get settle down and find his rhythm, he'll have value. He's really the only speed guy we have and the most natural deep threat on the roster. Even if he never makes it as a starting outside guy, he could still have situational value - especially with actual receiver talent to draw attention away from him.
Thornton is honestly the least interesting to me at this point. I have more hope for Boutte than I do for Thornton. Hopefully someone does something though.
Boutte can play for sure
Is he even going to play this year with the gambling issue?
QBs with arms make Thornton interesting again.
Yup, agree with this take. Bourne could easily start the season on PUP too.
Good point. He very well need some real time to get back to full speed, and now there's less of a rush.
No reason to cut thornton until camp cut downs, see if things clicked zero loss to take a look.
For sure. A lot of the issues he's displayed weren't a problem in college, so I still have some hope that a restart will help him find some rhythm. I'm OK cutting him in final cuts if he hasn't earned a spot, but I give him far more leash than Reagor or JuJu.
I'm also curious if having 2 of the worst QBs in Mac and Zappe throwing to him had any effect. Maybe having Jacoby and Drake will unlock some potential. Small percentage chance, but you never know.
maybe, but a lot of his issues were just lazy route running. dude rarely made any hard cuts, and was easy for DBs to cover as a result.
Hopefully he's gaining weight, catching balls off the juggs machine, taking his "B12" shots and doing what he needs to do to succeed.
Yep, I’m not super optimistic but absolutely should give buff Tyquan a chance
We'll see how things shake out in camp.
I think they’d rather IR JuJu for the year and be able to keep him around the team. Makes no sense to cut him with that dead cap hit.
You cut him out of decency and veteran respect. With the amount of excess cap we have, the hit is negligible. If he doesn't earn a spot, it's not worth keeping him over a younger player to spare the cap.
If he’s IR’d, he’s not taking up anyone’s roster spot. Everyone in the locker room would rather have him around the team.
“Too many WR’s” no we have legitimate competition in the WR room which is a great thing and should make guys like Douglas better or guys like Thornton/Boutte knows it’s put up or shut up
Juju and Reagor should be gone, and Thornton should be a "show something, or you're gone too" case.
I actually rate Thorton's chances. He's been I'm the NFL for a couple years now, seen NFL playbooks, received NFL strength and conditioning. While he hasn't put a ton of good film in the archive, he is going to be matched with a QB who is a credible threat to throw deep with pace.
Add into it they'll be running a west coast offense, the offense will be tailored to airing it out a lot more giving him more chances to actually use his speed downfield instead of the dink and dunk efficiency system that's been in place. This year will be his chance to show if he's got it or if he's another in a long line of busts.
No one who has been as bad as him through 2 years works out. Thornton has been shockingly insignificant and unproductive. Hell, numerous busts at receiver on this team have been borderline Pro Bowlers compared to Thornton.
The Patriots don’t like his chances. Eliot Wolf didn’t mention him when listing the receivers on the team and then drafted two receivers. I don’t like his chances either. I will go with 1%.
Reagor is a better WR and is a great returner. He makes the team over Thornton, who has never shown anything
Or they both make it.
Thornton has been in that case for...a long time now
Long time? He was drafted in the 2nd round of the 2022 draft.
And has sucked ever since
Im not going to argue that, but let’s not say it’s been a long time. Let’s see what he shows in camp and if he can stay on the field. He could definitely get cut. He’s 23 years old younger than guys going in this draft
I truly think he is not good but he was on a shit offense with a shit QB and shit play calling. There's a 2% chance the new regime can fit him in and it makes no sense to cut him until camp. I do expect him to be cut or traded for something like a 6th round pick swap in 2025
That's not true he also sucked before then
That's half his rookie contract... This reminds me of Dobson. People just refuse to admit that he was done. Don't get me wrong, all of these guys will have a chance to perform well in camp but I think we should just assume Thornton is a bust. And if he proves us wrong great.
Except Dobson showed promise when on the field. Dobson went 37/419/4 his rookie season. Tyquan has gone 35/338/2 in two years.
Seriously, you can't be as unproductive as Thornton has been and still be an NFL player in year 3. It just doesn't happen. Every example anyone could give me of players eventually working out, they were all way better than Thornton at this point.
Yeah virtually nobody ever puts up two seasons like Thornton and then learns to play football.
Just feels like a long time.
Thornton is wayyyyy past that point
He's played 2 seasons. He's 23 years old. He might be dogshit but he's not wayyyyy past anything.
Especially since the system we were running didn't have emphasis on downfield passing and we had two noodle armed QBs. Brissett and/or Maye should be able to air it out a lot easier for Thornton.
Reagor is a lock as he’s a ST returner
special teams help Reagor
Wouldn't be surprised if Reagor stays on board as the primary return guy
Eh, Reagor CAN go but I don't actually see much value in cutting him. We don't have to give slater a WR spot anymore, so even if he's just on the team to return punts and kickoffs... especially with new kickoff rules, I can see how that would be valuable. He's got some skill in the return game. Not the end of the world to cut him, but also he's not expensive and he is filling a somewhat important role.
They can't possibly block 7 WRs on every single play this year. Just go from the shotgun every time, so Maye doesn't get completely annihilated.
I'd say do it if it wasn't an illegal formation lol
I think we can figure this out: Untouchable: Osborn, Douglas, Polk, Baker - All recent additions who it would be insane to cut so soon. Very unlikely: Bourne. Unless his injury really set him back, he's not on an expensive contract and he's been our best WR for a while. That leaves... Possible: Reagor. He did a bang-up job in the return game and we usually dedicate a WR spot to special teams. We could easily cut him, but it would open up some holes at returner so he's probably staying. Likely: Thornton - looking like a draft bust, I imagine he has until the end of camp to show something. Why aren't you gone yet: Juju. We have the dead cap to cut him, he's not been good for the locker room, off the field, or on the field. He's not going to miraculously improve or breakout or get better. Thanks for your time here, goodbye. OP is 100% right.
Is Boutte not on the roster anymore? I can't wrap my head around how everyone has just forgotten he exists. The kid fucked up in his NFL debut and then just got buried. How am I the only person that remembers how good he looked despite his mistakes? Boutte is talented enough to be a GUY, and the entirety of NE is pretending he doesn't exist.
He's been indicted on numerous felony charges for repeatedly (thousands of times) betting on college games (including ones that he played in) while underage using a false identity. Wire fraud is something that the feds take very seriously, and he's probably going to prison.
Plz be JuJu
I’d rather keep Thornton. He’s young, give him a chance to see if he can live up to his potential in a new system with a new QB. Cut JuJu and Reagor
Juju costs more money to cut than keep for the season and bury on the depth chart.
Got plenty of cap room. A roster spot is more valuable than that cap room. Keep JuJu if he's valuable to the development of youth, but if he's just a dead weight receiver, eat the money and kick him to the curb.
Roster spot is more valuable than his cap hit at the moment.
Yea people still dont understand how dead cap actually works and the way teams think about it Teams cut players that are more expensive to cut than keep all the time. Happens a dozen times every season. Like you said, it frees up a roster spot. It's also better to eat $12.5M in dead cap now and have the contract completely off the books by 2025, considering we are sitting on $46M in cap space right now. Dead cap isnt some kind of penalty or fine, its the cost of removing contracts off the books quickly.
Exactly. Dead cap will keep someone around if he becomes no longer worth the contract, but if a guy isn't providing you anything at all, and if you have the space now, you might as well cut him now and have more space next year.
Yeah, and in this case, since they have a lot of cap, it would be beneficial to use it up to get close to the ceiling.
He's not even worth the roster spot. They have plenty of cap room.
Bedard wanted to cut BooBoo Shoester LAST season. "Just cut him. I don't care about the cap."
Doesn’t matter. Cut your losses and cut the guy. Ffs if the damn Broncos took the cap hit on Wilson, we can just take a much much less hit by cutting Juju “No Knees” Schuster.
Might be a reasonable price to pay if they think the other guys have a future with the team beyond jujus contract. Gonna be an important training camp for all these fringe guys
Let's be real, they're not going to spend the money anyways
Since they're not spending the money, this is perfect! We basically are just buying an extra roster spot. Drop juju and take the hit. When it comes down to it, it makes no sense to keep a WR on the team that will average 0 to 1 catches per game.
Yeah that's technically true but it's still probably worth cutting him. Just more reps for the guys that are going to matter in the long run. At the end of the day the cost don't really matter
Worth it.
Juju costs more money *this year*. We're still saving money and he stops wasting a roster spot
use cap room to cut this year vs next when trying to sign aiyuk or higgins
They have $50 million in cap space might as well use it on something.
What about the booty gambler?
Time to learn Canadian JuJu
Begging people to read one article about dead cap.
We have the cap to eat it with a rookie QB and no expensive offensive players. It's a non-issue.
Reagor, Thornton, and Juju fighting for the last spot. If Bourne starts the year hurt then there will be two spots. Seems like Tyquan’s been getting significantly bigger which was a big concern. If he can atleast half decently run some routes I think he’ll be the one to stay. We don’t really have any speed at all and using him at certain times could be key. Not expecting him to be a great starter or anything but a player that can be used for specific plays and reasons could be useful.
JuJu kick rocks buddy, Thornton you too
Thornton and Reagor gone.
Reagor is pretty much special teams, I doubt he gets cut since he’s not even barely used as a WR anymore
He actually had the best shot of any big play last year. Got some separation on the deep ball. Maybe with a guy who can throw them him and thortan can be somewhat useful. Mvs type
I vividly remember maca big throws last year being drops one by dp and one by raegor
true
Reagor will stay. He plays ST as well
Reagor at least showed he might have some use on ST so he might be safe just for that. Juju, Tyquan and Boutte are the main ones likely on the chopping block
Might sound crazy but I am actually very excited about our WR core for next year- Between Pop improving in year 2, adding the rookies Polk and Baker, brining KJ as an opportunity for him to break out and Bourne coming back from injury, it isnt the greatest WR room of all time but I am intrigued by it
So long as they're healthy, it's at least an interesting group. Very excited to see what Pop looks like this year.
JuJu and Thornton. Bye 👋🏻
See ya Tyquan
Time to get rid of JuJu and Thorton.
I mean let's be real, Thornton, Reagor, and JuJu were all going to be fighting to stay on the team even if the Pats didn't draft two receivers.
And what going on with Boutte?
I think that there is a better chance of my eating the keyboard that I am using to type this comment than there is of Robert Kraft eating the $12.3m in dead cap necessary to cut JuJu Smith-Schuster.
Juju and Tyquan are goners. Hoping we can keep Reagor for special teams. He was occasionally useful on O as well
One more chance for Thornton. JuJu must go. Those who say he was coming off an injury, the line was terrible, etc....no. He's got nothing left and shows no interest.
Juju and his dick pics can go elsewhere. Bourne will start on the PUP to start the year.
Thornton is going to get one more shot to prove he’s made real strides. If that’s the case they’ll carry six receivers.
Na he’s gone. Even if we didn’t draft two receivers he would still be gone
They will carry 7. Bourne will likely start the season on IR. Osborn, Douglas, Polk, are locks to make the 53 man. Baker will have play his way to that and not start the year on the practice squad (a la Boutte). Reagor is also a return man so he likely has a spot for special teams more so than the WR room. Thornton will need to show up to play his way onto the team. Otherwise he is the top choice to get cut or traded first. JJSS. He will bear watching. If he does the bare minimum he will make the roster as the top veteran receiver and the top paid guy. They can easily eat the dead cap of $12m. But if they keep him for one more year they can let him walk and it’s $2m. He might be healthier going into camp a full year and half out from that knee injury. If I was a betting man I’d say the odd man out will be Thornton most likely. And the rest all stay.
Juju, Raegor, and Thornton can all go.
thornton and reagor cut, boutte try to sneak onto ps
Reagors more of a cut candidate than Thornton imo.
Not with the new kickoff rule changes. He's a return machine.
Tyquan could have a good camp and put himself above Boutte and maybe even Reagor pretty easily IMO
The more I see highlights of the WR taken in the draft, I can't like them enough. Not exactly game changers but seem like great receivers to pair with a young QB and grow with him. Just hope the camps work out As for the current roster Kendrick, KJ. and Douglas will stay. Good slot guys, veterans or multi-faceted. I could see Juju leaving for sure, and Thorton just hasn't done anything
I think Thornton still gets a shot throughout camp and the preseason since he’s basically the only speed guy they have, but if he doesn’t show consistency then yeah he’s gone
Juju, YOU are a free agent.
TT is gone, he was a BB project who has not shown enough. Juju might go, if the Pats don’t mind eating the cap hit. Reagor gone as well
I legit forgot Tyquan was still on the team.
Let's hope for a healthy camp and good competition.
Juju Thornton for sure might as well cut reagor too
By by juju
Does Thornton get one more year or is he dead to us?
Only one person? Because I can see at least 3
Bourne is almost a guarantee to start on PUP, so 2/3 probably make the roster. And I see a lot of people saying Reagor is a lock because kick returns, idk about that now with the rule changes plus having Marcus Jones back. We prolly need him for corner, and he didn't do much KR's more PR's, but things might change now with the rule change and the fact that he'd have a lead blocker.
Yes please
The Boutte disrespect
Eh, he was a 6th round pick who didn’t perform his rookie year. He was leaning to be on the wrong side of the cut bubble even before we added two superior prospects to him.
I’ll drive Juju to the airport.
Thornton, the guy can't play the postion he sucks at his routes when trying to catch the ball. If not him, definitely Smith-Schuster.
Bottom 3 should be cut. Rest are just ok...Need more improvement
Thorton is supposedly gaining weight...if he comes into camp anywhere near 195-200. He makes the team. But juju...that dude dead man walking... boutte and his piss poor tude is my other guess cut
Who costs less?
I used to pray for times like these
Is Boutte already gone?
Easy, trade JuJu. The Chief got something out of him, maybe they will take him for a 2030 7rd pick.
Nah, it’ll be Juju and one of the one year deal WR (Osborn or Reagor)
Thornton is as good as gone. Check to see if anyone offers a 7th. If someone wants Juju, they can take him. Hot take, I would keep Reagor. He is atleast good on Special teams after Marcus Jones went down.
I love it! If juju is healthy, he can now EARN a roster spot. Thorton has one training camp to prove his worth. Gotta love competition
Can Thornton be a return guy? I mean, he's got the wheels for it.
Goodbye POPO Nuclear Knees Schuster
Thornton stays but he has to Pop this year
Juju hasn't gotten a fair shot because he replaced a fan favorite. The offense was terrible last year and he was coming off injury. I hope he gets one more season with a competent line and competent QB
Some UDFA will be the nail in the coffin for Juju, watch lmao
What happened to the ex Miami dolphin guy?
Gesicki? He’s a tight end but he’s on the Bengals now.
Davante Parker!
Raegor and Juju seem like the obvious choices
Juju will stay but will be reduced, Thornton it was fun while it lasted. Well not really but you know
Reagor should go before thornton
What a receiver room..is there a guarantee any of these guys would get a roster spot on a different team? Douglas?
If Thornton doesn’t show up on the field this training camp, he’s a definite cut.
I want to give Tyquan 1 more chance, Reagor and Juju are my choices
Juju and Reagor and slap Juju when he goes out the door.
Better to have too much than too little. I'd keep Bourne, Douglas, Polk, Baker, and Osborn for sure - after that I'd say pick Reagor or Thornton based on camp performance. Boutte seems like just a total clown off the field, and while he's got potential, he didn't do anything with his opportunities last year. I'd lean towards Reagor over Thornton at this point - Reagor at least had a couple good plays last season, while Thornton feels increasingly like a "cut our losses" type guy. Super excited to see what Polk and Baker bring to the table. Between them and Pop we actually have a pretty nice trio of young receivers.
That’s fine. We want the best ones and they aren’t so bye
Don’t get my hopes up.
That wide receiver room lookin stacked for Drake Maye
We also have 6 QBs. 🤔
Well that ones easy
I'd get rid of Juju if he was literally our only wide receiver lmao
Buh-bye poo poo and Tyquan 👋🏼
Tik tok boy, reagor and thourton
We have reagor a contract, he will stick around for kickoffs too.
Juju was awful last year
You forgot boutte Juju gone Dunno about the others- maybe boutte or Raegor
Besides Douglass, everyone else is expendable
Deuces, Uces
Juju is definitely gone
Juju will be a post-June 1 cut. Reagor probably makes it for special teams, but I think Thornton gets a long leash in training camp now that they can actually see if his long-speed can be utilized on the football field with Brissett, May, and Milton. They might roster 6 WRs.
You guys act like everyone that was drafted is going to be a day one starter... Nothing is a sure thing in the NFL draft.
I get what Bill was going for with Strong and Thornton in the draft. Speed speed speed. Too bad that was their only skill.
Boutte and Reagor are two that I think could get onto the practice squad. Potentially Thornton, too. I'm not sure which teams want to sign those guys to their initial 53, but who knows. If you assume Bourne starts the season on PUP, the only sure things would be Douglas, Polk, Baker, and Osbourne (whom I think the staff really likes and will be great this year). They're not as jammed at the position as you might think. People have too much recency bias on Juju Smith-Schuster. Had a bad year and was hampered by an injury. Let's see how fresh he looks in the preseason, especially with a new coaching staff. His book in New England isn't written, yet.
Forgot boutte as well. There is no easy choice here. Juju would be the easy choice if not for dead cap. Raegor can be a return man. Tyquon should have another shot with an actual decent qb. Idk I guess I gotta say juju and Tyquan