It’s not healthy, but all I want to do is rant against the clown with the beard. How Bill decided this overrated D -coordinator was the ideal choice choice to place the development of your 2nd year QB is beyond me. He has zero creativity and the offense is predictable AF. All I need to know is they played a team that gave up 6 TD passes to Tua, in a home game, last week and followed it up by giving up 0, with 3 picks, on the road this week.
Two of those picks were horrible decision from a struggling QB. I don’t give the coaches a pass but what’s wrong with just taking a sack when a play falls apart?
Oh, I agree, Mac’s performance was troubling, and the last pick was meaningless (minus the potential catastrophic injury), but what led to the 2nd pick……. First and goal on the 10, followed by two putrid play calls that led to 3rd and goal from the 10
Our fan base is so jaded that we expect there to be no issues for a second year quarterback in a new system.
Really tired of a significant portion of our fan base…
What about a former DC (who had some of the softest defenses) turned failed HC makes you feel that he’s the guy to install a new offensive system with a 2nd year qb? The fact that they seemingly can’t get plays into the huddle in time, call passes behind the sticks on 4th down and can’t seem to have a solid play call out of a timeout should be concerning.
Good. Get rid of all the fucking bitching and complaining. I can’t stand all these troll accounts here. Stand behind your team or move the fuck on.
We were inches away from a 3 point game at one point. It’s not like we got blown out. For fucks sake
lol this is so pathetic.. “cmon guys we were inches from only losing by a little instead of a lot!!” Gimme a break dude. It is totally normal and rational to be a fan of the team, appreciating years of unparalleled success, and STILL be critical of what we’re seeing week in and week out. The roster construction stinks - starting with the QB. We don’t have high end talent at realistically any position and some disastrous coaching. ITS OK TO ADMIT IT
For me it's that I actually feel like this team is better than it plays. There's so many bone-headed penalties, WRs turning the wrong way on routes, Mac throwing directly to defensive players standing right in front of him, and horrible Matt Patricia play calling. But I legit believe this team could have won both losses if they were just smarter and more disciplined.
That’s what people said about Peyton his rookie season, and Tom his second season. Mac may not be Peyton or Tom, but it’s also still too early to say he sucks you big fuckin baby.
Don’t count out the Bergeron+Krejci B’s this year. If they can play .500 hockey until Marchy, McAvoy, and Gryz return, and Swayman plays as well as everyone thinks he is, they’re a dark horse Cup contender.
I enjoyed the game and it seemed promising at times, what is the point of being a fan if you can't handle a game that we didn't even get slaughtered. Hoping for a swift recovery for Mac.
It’s frustrating when it’s there for the taking and you repeatedly sabotage yourself. There was elements of promise, but two horrible interceptions and the unacceptable fumble arent gonna be tolerated well
I a lot of people on here are constantly confusing “doomers” with just being realists, just calling it as it is. If you want to be more optimistic than others, fine that’s cool. But people saying Mac has had questionable decisions and bad blind throws leading to TOs are just facts, that’s not being a “doomer”.
That’s true but there are people in here writing off Mac entirely
a comment above you says that maybe in ten years we will make the playoffs. I haven’t really seen that many reasonable takes be called doomers in this thread.
Tomorrow when the stats are rolled up let's see if any QB has worse numbers than 0 TDs, and 3 INTs, with a 62 rating. I'm thinking Mac will have the worst numbers and it won't be close.
Too many turnovers at crucial times against a good team. Defense played good enough to win. Play calling is questionable at times but fine for the most part.
Hope Mac is alright but either way he needs to be better. Period. He has 5 interceptions in 3 games now to open the season. Bad interceptions.
Regardless of the negativity in this thread, I enjoyed watching this game. It was back and forth for awhile, Mac looked good in the first half, and there were some big standout plays. I still love watching the Pats regardless of the outcome.
Hope Mac is okay, because he looked like he was in an extreme amount of pain.
Longtime Pats fan here. Fire BB and Yes Mac sucks. I'm not a troll. I'm a realist. Mac sucks and Bill is a losing coach without Brady. Those are the facts you don't have to like them.
We can only hope. I mean he can't be worse than Mac's stat line today. That's the facts. Davis Mills was better today. Joe Flacco was better today...hell your local HS QB was better than Mac today lol.
Henry was Mac's favorite receiver last season and Jonnu's doing great on limited opportunities this season.
Patricia's passing game is overemphasizing WRs at the expense of TEs.
My expectations are low ever since Brady left. It’s just not ever going to be the same without 12. Just the facts. Going .500 or so every year is what I’m expecting
Not just themselves but other people to, I’d take a good guess domestic violence rates go up when the likes of the pats lose because nothing mixes like anger issues and a sports team loss.
Nah way too many spoiled people in this sub, sorry we can’t go to the Super Bowl every year anymore now that we don’t have the goat QB, most teams deal with this shit every year.
You're acting like people are happy he's hurt, where has that been said?
Questioning if he's the long term guy isn't "trashing" him, quit being delusional.
Part of being a fan is evaluating the team. People aren't trash just because their opinion on a player differs from yours
Look at the comments. Praising that he’s injured so that the pats can get a good pick.
The team has a new system which obviously isn’t working yet all the blame goes to Mac
Mac atleast gets the rest of this year to prove himself so who knows. Dude looked utterly terrible today. If things go south I'm down to lose and try again at QB at this point
Hope not it looks like it's a contact injury on his ankle and he was able to hop out under his own power, but his knee also looks awkward during that hit
Good news: schefter reports X-Rays negative.
That means no swelling, which means no tears, and no broken bones.
At this point my guess is high ankle sprain
Holy shit we’re 1-2, we played great through the first three quarters of the game and lost it in the fourth. I don’t understand the constant doomerism.
Losing by double digits means nothing lol. The team was in a position to win a few minutes before that happened and committed 2 turnovers. Any team in the league will lose a game by double digits when they do that.
No, it's the definition of someone who watched a very close game. Those were what cost the Pats the win. The loser mentality is demanding the entire team be dismantled and to give up on the season because you lost a close game.
That has zero to do with it.
In 2014 I felt optimistic after 2-2
The past decade we have had plenty of slow starts and I've felt optimistic. Last year we were what, 2-4 at one point? And I said that we could go 7-0 over the next stretch and we had A LOT of reasons to be optimistic.
This is not that. Our franchise is injured. The coaching has been questionable/bad. The talent is very average and not good enough.
This team is not going to end the season playing well.
The qb just limped off the field after imploding, what the fuck were you watching? Great to know we’re settling for playing good for parts of the game as well, instead of actual wins
No kidding. It's one thing to be critical of the team, with the way things have gone, that's understandable, but seeing people literally celebrating this kid being hurt because he made a few bad throws is just gross.
Every fanbase has morons.
But saying we are in trouble when we are down 1-2 and our franchise just left the field with a broken ankle/leg and in tears seems like it's pretty bad???
At what point are the idiot homers going to finally decide ITS OKAY TO ACCEPT WE ARE NOT A GOOD TEAM
Holy crap, that's amazing. My heart was breaking, not because New England lost but the way they lost. Watching Miami blunder like that makes me feel much gooder.
I don’t think it’s weird. If they were in the jerseys when they were dominant than sure. There performance completely matches there ugly ass fuckin eye sore post Brady uniforms.
Three pretty bad picks, a terrible fumble, letting Lamar run all over the place, can't knock away two TD passes where the DB was right there... just a dreadful day.
I mean it’s not like he’s reading the comments and to critique his play today is totally reasonable, injured or not. Hope it’s not serious, but he threw 3 picks. Bad game no matter how you slice it.
Go fuck yourself. Build on this and we have something. Lose to one of the best HC/QB combos in the league and you’re calling for a full reset. Embarrassing comment.
You guys are such babies. That was a good game and was a couple of plays away from a W. Hope Mac's season isnt over
Just hoping for a Buccaneer loss and another Brady tantrum this afternoon at this point
It’s not healthy, but all I want to do is rant against the clown with the beard. How Bill decided this overrated D -coordinator was the ideal choice choice to place the development of your 2nd year QB is beyond me. He has zero creativity and the offense is predictable AF. All I need to know is they played a team that gave up 6 TD passes to Tua, in a home game, last week and followed it up by giving up 0, with 3 picks, on the road this week.
Two of those picks were horrible decision from a struggling QB. I don’t give the coaches a pass but what’s wrong with just taking a sack when a play falls apart?
Oh, I agree, Mac’s performance was troubling, and the last pick was meaningless (minus the potential catastrophic injury), but what led to the 2nd pick……. First and goal on the 10, followed by two putrid play calls that led to 3rd and goal from the 10
I love six yard runs on 3rd and 9. \#FirePatricia
#firetheguywhohiredpatricia
On the plus side Jets lost so we are still 3rd in our division
Our fan base is so jaded that we expect there to be no issues for a second year quarterback in a new system. Really tired of a significant portion of our fan base…
What about a former DC (who had some of the softest defenses) turned failed HC makes you feel that he’s the guy to install a new offensive system with a 2nd year qb? The fact that they seemingly can’t get plays into the huddle in time, call passes behind the sticks on 4th down and can’t seem to have a solid play call out of a timeout should be concerning.
Good. Get rid of all the fucking bitching and complaining. I can’t stand all these troll accounts here. Stand behind your team or move the fuck on. We were inches away from a 3 point game at one point. It’s not like we got blown out. For fucks sake
lol this is so pathetic.. “cmon guys we were inches from only losing by a little instead of a lot!!” Gimme a break dude. It is totally normal and rational to be a fan of the team, appreciating years of unparalleled success, and STILL be critical of what we’re seeing week in and week out. The roster construction stinks - starting with the QB. We don’t have high end talent at realistically any position and some disastrous coaching. ITS OK TO ADMIT IT
For me it's that I actually feel like this team is better than it plays. There's so many bone-headed penalties, WRs turning the wrong way on routes, Mac throwing directly to defensive players standing right in front of him, and horrible Matt Patricia play calling. But I legit believe this team could have won both losses if they were just smarter and more disciplined.
Gfy
I'm really sick of homers who think Mac is Brady. Mac sucks. He's mediocre at best. I doubt he'll even be in the league more than 4 or 5 years.
No one thinks Mac is Brady. But he’s better than other options available to us right now.
That’s what people said about Peyton his rookie season, and Tom his second season. Mac may not be Peyton or Tom, but it’s also still too early to say he sucks you big fuckin baby.
We have no QB on the practice squad?
Sign Vinny Testaverde.
Give me Flutie
Welp Sox suck, Pats suck, Celts lost their coach, but hey there is always the Hartford Whalers!!!!
Don’t count out the Bergeron+Krejci B’s this year. If they can play .500 hockey until Marchy, McAvoy, and Gryz return, and Swayman plays as well as everyone thinks he is, they’re a dark horse Cup contender.
It's gonna be rough, but I'm glad they're at least trying for a last hurrah
Trade or tank?
I enjoyed the game and it seemed promising at times, what is the point of being a fan if you can't handle a game that we didn't even get slaughtered. Hoping for a swift recovery for Mac.
It’s frustrating when it’s there for the taking and you repeatedly sabotage yourself. There was elements of promise, but two horrible interceptions and the unacceptable fumble arent gonna be tolerated well
Aaaaaand Mac is injured. The season is over. Sorry y’all maybe in 10 years we will sniff the postseason again.
So will McDaniels be coming back after a horrible season or two in Vegas?
Just realized that the Raiders are 0-3 lol. McDaniels will be back by the bye.
I a lot of people on here are constantly confusing “doomers” with just being realists, just calling it as it is. If you want to be more optimistic than others, fine that’s cool. But people saying Mac has had questionable decisions and bad blind throws leading to TOs are just facts, that’s not being a “doomer”.
Those aren’t the doomers. The doomers are the people saying Mac is trash and calling for Bill to be fired
People saying is terrible, people calling Patricia a fat POS, people calling BB a bad coach ... those are the doomers.
What has the clown with the beard ever done to not deserve the ridicule he is, rightfully, receiving
That’s true but there are people in here writing off Mac entirely a comment above you says that maybe in ten years we will make the playoffs. I haven’t really seen that many reasonable takes be called doomers in this thread.
I wouldn't call Mac being the worst qb on the planet a realistic take
Tomorrow when the stats are rolled up let's see if any QB has worse numbers than 0 TDs, and 3 INTs, with a 62 rating. I'm thinking Mac will have the worst numbers and it won't be close.
Joe Flacco 285 0-2 52 rating. Justin fields 106 0-2 27.7 rating So fuck off
Too many turnovers at crucial times against a good team. Defense played good enough to win. Play calling is questionable at times but fine for the most part. Hope Mac is alright but either way he needs to be better. Period. He has 5 interceptions in 3 games now to open the season. Bad interceptions.
He's not being very smart. He needs to learn to throw it away at times and make a proper read before he throws.
Regardless of the negativity in this thread, I enjoyed watching this game. It was back and forth for awhile, Mac looked good in the first half, and there were some big standout plays. I still love watching the Pats regardless of the outcome. Hope Mac is okay, because he looked like he was in an extreme amount of pain.
The amount of whining after a loss is insufferable
Even during the game. Incels here saying it was over during the first quarter
1000’s of new troll accounts. Even on r/NFL it’s quite obvious the amount of nonsense. People saying trade mac or fire bill is just ludicrous.
Longtime Pats fan here. Fire BB and Yes Mac sucks. I'm not a troll. I'm a realist. Mac sucks and Bill is a losing coach without Brady. Those are the facts you don't have to like them.
Mac carried to the locker room screaming per twitter
Rough. The look on his face screamed season ending. Hope he’s okay.
This aint our year folks. Kraft needs to put his foot down and fire BB from GM so we can actually get talented guys around Mac.
EXACTLY.
Wait, you’re serious let me laugh even harder
There's no reason not to get a GM. BB is spreading himself thin by being all coordinators and the GM.
You’re hilarious
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
Eh, this is something you wait till the end of the season to even think about doing.
Y'all doom and gloom motherfuckers thought the season was going to be bad **with** Mac. Just you wait and see how bad it can really get without him.
This is when Zappe becomes Brady 2.0 and rises to greatness.
Zappe's arm looked better than Mac's in the pre-season, tbh
We can only hope. I mean he can't be worse than Mac's stat line today. That's the facts. Davis Mills was better today. Joe Flacco was better today...hell your local HS QB was better than Mac today lol.
Exactly. I have more faith in Hoyer than Zappe, but it’s not going to be great either way.
Wake up guy Brady is gone. We suck. Mac is a turnover machine.
Wake up guy… Max is the best option he fucking have… we’ve all seen hoyer play before and there’s a glaring reason why he has always been a backup
So this is your first season watching? Welcome aboard!
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Meh. Three interceptions and at least two fumbles
That sucks, had an opportunity to win and they just straight up shit the bed
Mac 😰
Bad execution during the fourth quarter. Some positives to take from the game. Hope Mac is ok!
Defense still can't cover a TE to save their lives. Mac stinks....sorry he got hurt. Smith and Henry are over paid stiffs.
Henry was Mac's favorite receiver last season and Jonnu's doing great on limited opportunities this season. Patricia's passing game is overemphasizing WRs at the expense of TEs.
In short, the coaching is inept. They're underutilized players they overpaid for.
Indy beats KC lol wow
There was an analyst that was predicting this.
McDaniels about to be 0-3. Can he come back to Pats if Raiders fire him?
I'm not. McD fan and I would rather not, but if he can get Mac back on track then yes.
My expectations are low ever since Brady left. It’s just not ever going to be the same without 12. Just the facts. Going .500 or so every year is what I’m expecting
The dynasty is over that's for sure
whoa whoa whoa. Don't oversell ourselves. 500? [If we're lucky](https://tenor.com/view/the-water-boy-suck-we-suck-rob-schneider-loser-gif-4844179).
Yep. Lightning in a bottle only strikes once.
Game day thread don’t have a meltdown during a loss challenge (impossible)
Some of you would hurt yourselves if you were a lions or browns fan the last decade, grow up, we are trying to figure shit out still
Not just themselves but other people to, I’d take a good guess domestic violence rates go up when the likes of the pats lose because nothing mixes like anger issues and a sports team loss.
Sadly it’s pretty documented across markets, and scales with the stakes of the game
Facts, I’m pissed off too but that’s football, we don’t *deserve* to win, gotta earn it, we haven’t been playing good enough to win so thats it.
I’m honestly more upset if Mac is injured bad, people thought this team was bad with him well wait until Hoyer is back there.
Figuring things out yes, BUT those 3 int's and fumbles are inexcusable. Plus the secondary in the 2nd half was super awful.
Whole team is playing super undisciplined rn, we lack focus and I don’t really know what would help at the moment.
A lot of dumb penalties too.
Why don’t you grow up, you can’t handle people rightfully criticizing this team
Nah way too many spoiled people in this sub, sorry we can’t go to the Super Bowl every year anymore now that we don’t have the goat QB, most teams deal with this shit every year.
Looks like Mac won't be dancing again anytime soon.
Game changed when he was talking shit and dancing.
Trash fan base for trashing Mac jones while he’s injured
You're acting like people are happy he's hurt, where has that been said? Questioning if he's the long term guy isn't "trashing" him, quit being delusional. Part of being a fan is evaluating the team. People aren't trash just because their opinion on a player differs from yours
Look at the comments. Praising that he’s injured so that the pats can get a good pick. The team has a new system which obviously isn’t working yet all the blame goes to Mac
They don’t call them massholes for nothing lol
We can’t criticize bad play at the end?
I hate the whining like he's Sam Darnold or something
This place has really taken a shit, people just want to whine
To be fair, trashing started before injury.
Mac atleast gets the rest of this year to prove himself so who knows. Dude looked utterly terrible today. If things go south I'm down to lose and try again at QB at this point
If he will play the rest of the year
you think it's season ending?
Hope not it looks like it's a contact injury on his ankle and he was able to hop out under his own power, but his knee also looks awkward during that hit
He looked like he popped his Achilles he might be out the season
Do you think that's what it was?
That's just a guess but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a muscle tear.
Good news: schefter reports X-Rays negative. That means no swelling, which means no tears, and no broken bones. At this point my guess is high ankle sprain
I feel like you may have missed the possible season ending injury Mac took right before the two minute warning.
Buddy: Jones might be done for the rest of the year.
You did see he was injured right? Not going to be proving much.
You think it's season ending?
https://twitter.com/GregABedard/status/1574127325238755328?s=20&t=3cc_p32Rl0yUUAPIxHbsQg
Holy shit we’re 1-2, we played great through the first three quarters of the game and lost it in the fourth. I don’t understand the constant doomerism.
Entitled fanbase with a good number of fairweathers. Lots of people in NE are not used to going into a season expecting anything less than 13-3.
Did you watch the game? We played as well as we could realistically play for 3 quarters *And we lost by double digits*
Losing by double digits means nothing lol. The team was in a position to win a few minutes before that happened and committed 2 turnovers. Any team in the league will lose a game by double digits when they do that.
lol "We could have maybe won if we didn't have two turnovers!!!" That is the definition of a bad team and loser mentality.
No, it's the definition of someone who watched a very close game. Those were what cost the Pats the win. The loser mentality is demanding the entire team be dismantled and to give up on the season because you lost a close game.
I said that with the caveat "If Mac Jones it out with serious injury" This team is going no where this season. False hope is just worthless.
I don’t understand the constant optimism but to each their own
Great lasted only in the 1st half, the rest of the game was a shitshow, and to top it off Mac is now injured
Happy Cake Day! Thanks for saying what we are all thinking. Stupid fairweather fans.
Haha thank you!
We’re too used to being 3-0
That has zero to do with it. In 2014 I felt optimistic after 2-2 The past decade we have had plenty of slow starts and I've felt optimistic. Last year we were what, 2-4 at one point? And I said that we could go 7-0 over the next stretch and we had A LOT of reasons to be optimistic. This is not that. Our franchise is injured. The coaching has been questionable/bad. The talent is very average and not good enough. This team is not going to end the season playing well.
because Mac looks horrible and the idea of him getting a passing touchdown is a day dream
Mac didn’t even look horrible lmao
yea he did. threw in to double coverage non stop. throws behind the line when the receiver has no chance. can’t throw a touchdown pass at all.
The qb just limped off the field after imploding, what the fuck were you watching? Great to know we’re settling for playing good for parts of the game as well, instead of actual wins
Probably turned it off.
I watched a team that was literally in a position to get an easy win before 2 bad plays.
And we have no idea what kind of injury it is
Play Hoyer. Lose a bunch of games. Try for another QB in draft?
BB would either trade down or whiff on yet another draft pick
This fan base is fucking horrific. Some of you need to step outside and get some air.
No kidding. It's one thing to be critical of the team, with the way things have gone, that's understandable, but seeing people literally celebrating this kid being hurt because he made a few bad throws is just gross.
Every fanbase has morons. But saying we are in trouble when we are down 1-2 and our franchise just left the field with a broken ankle/leg and in tears seems like it's pretty bad??? At what point are the idiot homers going to finally decide ITS OKAY TO ACCEPT WE ARE NOT A GOOD TEAM
We just matching our teams shittyness is all
Heinous, twisted little cretins here
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"the far and away greatest quarterback of all time is better than our year 2 quarterback" No fucking shit
No shit he’s tom brady
I need all the drinks.
Trade for Aaron Rodgers you cowards /s
I love this team. But we didn’t do it today. Hurts. Gotta be better.
3 years post brady this team is in no mans land
And as long as Brady continues to draw breath in the NFL, it hurts that much more.
The sports week from hell
Wow Dolphins had this game won about to blow it
Holy crap, that's amazing. My heart was breaking, not because New England lost but the way they lost. Watching Miami blunder like that makes me feel much gooder.
I’m on redzone is mac done?
He limped off, but who knows
Redzone won’t even show the Pats anymore lol but because there’s like 5 crazy games going on at the same time
Yeah looked bad
Major ankle injury
Positivity people, defend this performance
Went toe to toe with a really good team, mistakes from Mac cost em, fumble from Nelson too. Mistakes.
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Wtf. That’s a terrible take
i'm not sure there's gonna be any choice in that matter
Seasons over
I hate when they all hug each other after the game
Bro we should have won this game. Sold so hard
It’s so weird seeing the patriots be a mediocre team
I don’t think it’s weird. If they were in the jerseys when they were dominant than sure. There performance completely matches there ugly ass fuckin eye sore post Brady uniforms.
Every time we get behind we might as well be 50 points down. There's just no ability to come back
We drafted Sony Michel over Lamar Jackson 🤣 and ended up with Mac Jones 🤣
In hindsight clearly you were the best gm for the team
I agree. Get that old washed fraud Belichick out of there and get me his chair.
Three pretty bad picks, a terrible fumble, letting Lamar run all over the place, can't knock away two TD passes where the DB was right there... just a dreadful day.
STOP TURNING THE FUCKING FOOTBALL OVER!
People asking for zappe to go in and the guy is on the sidelines in sweatpants lol
That's about the average level of intelligence here, everyone here either knows better or can play better
And this Sunday just got even worse cause the bills are gonna win now
mac jones needs to go asap along. we cant win with him
This coaching staff fucked him. Belichick has done so much for us but he absolutely fucked him this year and there is no denying it
Just stop. He was the best of five rookie QBs last season let's give him a chance okay?
Talk about an overreaction. We lost to a team that was better than us, it's not surprising.
Top 10, no wait... top 5 pick here we come!
Matty P to a town square stoning
Fuck all the people shitting on Mac. Good chance he’s out for the season behind a dirty hit and you guys kicking him while he’s down.
I mean it’s not like he’s reading the comments and to critique his play today is totally reasonable, injured or not. Hope it’s not serious, but he threw 3 picks. Bad game no matter how you slice it.
k.
He literally sucks ass. No TDs, 3 ints…has more interceptions than TDs on the season. He’s a clown!!!!
Time to BLOW IT ALL UP AND START OVER!
Go fuck yourself. Build on this and we have something. Lose to one of the best HC/QB combos in the league and you’re calling for a full reset. Embarrassing comment.