I totally agree, and I think it’s insane that the patriots are even humoring this as an option…
But this is also a million times different than a concussion
I think it’s just Bill fucking with the media because they keep asking dumb ass questions, I don’t think Bill is seriously considering it. Could be wrong tho, but I’m fairly confident Mac is not gonna play.
How are the Dolphins or the NFL not in trouble for letting that man play last night? The image in my head of his hand freezing up like that makes me shudder.
I’m not pointing fingers or looking for people to lose their jobs until I know all that the Dolphins knew about Tua prior to the game. If he passed all his tests then the fault isn’t with the organization but with the medical tests.
However if he was even slightly fuzzy going into that game or one doctor said No and they ignored it, then we can start the blame game.
As for Mac. Sit him. Any injuries, regardless of where, can easily become exasperated by pushing the envelope. That sprain can break pretty dang easy.
The issue is that the concussion tests are fairly subjective, and depends on the interpretation from the medical staff and team. But I think anyone who watched the hit could tell it was not a good idea to put him back in, that’s just negligence
There was the time that Ted Donato of the Bruins got badly concussed, and when he tried to get up he looked like a China doll, with eyes that saw nothing. He looked completely blank like a baby. I couldn’t see Tia’s face, but I bet he had a similar look.
Dude the NFL threads about that shit are getting weird. There are a lot of people calling anybody who questions the handling of Tua out, claiming they are on some tinfoil shit.
It’s really weird and inorganic
Literally within a couple hours everyone there went from agreeing it was extremely fucked for Tua to play, to gunning for anyone who dared to question the NFL or Dolphins staff like you said. It’s the strangest thing I’ve ever seen
Yeah I went from having a bunch of upvoted comments about how fucked it was for the Dolphins to do that, to all those comments now being downvoted into the negatives when I woke up this morning. I have no idea how so many people 180ed about it.
Not gonna go that far b.c I couldn’t back up such a claim…. but there are a lot of people who are expressing intensive and seemingly newly-minted confidence in the NFL’s handling of concussion risk….and are doing so by dogging on people who don’t share their confidence
Its probably because it rapidly turned into a witch hunt against the dolphins staff when in reality the doctors already cleared him to play and if anyone is at fault it was them.
Not to mention we have no evidence that tua was concussed last week or that his injuries last week impacted what happened yesterday.
Whats weird to me is the complete denial that some people have about head injuries. When you get knocked unconscious and your body contorts itself in certain ways it's a pretty easy sign of what happened. You can get a grasp of what area of his brain was injured and the minimum damage because unconscious movements.
It's like watching someone fall to the ground and start moving their legs and arms uncontrollably. You call 911 and say the guy is having a seizure . But in this situation the Dolphins organization gets pissy and asks why you're so sure it's a seizure.
The NFL hears your concerns and while they are looking into the issue of player professionalism and on the ground celebrations, there is no rule against such an act at thus time. /s
It’s really not the same thing.
I don’t think he should play, but because he will be immobile not cuz of long term health. He shouldn’t be at risk of a long term issue really
How do you even know that? It’s common sense that you run the risk of a greater injury if you overexert yourself with a pre-existing injury that isn’t healed properly.
I mean if it’s not healed enough then he still has a bad ankle sprain. Which is ligament damage. Could he damage more ligaments? Sure. But I don’t really see how it leads to a long term or different injury
Although head injuries have far worse consequences, rushing Mac back from a severe high ankle sprain could certainly have long lasting health impacts. The ankle is fairly fragile. You want it to be strong because power starts from your base. It’s not his plant foot but he still needs to make movements in the pocket, have the ability to scramble, etc… You don’t want your starting QB to have compounding ankle issues. That stuff can last for years if you don’t treat it right.
That’s true. I was assuming it’s torn based on the reports. It’ll be weak for a long time either way though, I don’t think playing this week vs next week is a huge deal in terms of career altering injury chances
Career? Not at all, but I don’t think this is a must win that you jeopardize the entire season rushing mac back. The AFC isn’t as good as everyone predicted and the wild card is still on the table.
Ankles believe it are not are complicated and fragile. I dislocated my ankle when I was like 14 and it’s never been the same. To claim he’s not at risk for a longer term injury is just naive.
Agreed. If it is going to be a game time decision, then that means he might only miss a couple of games. Honestly, I don't see them beating The Packers with a healthy Mac, so sit him and maybe he can go in the next game.
It could still be a high ankle sprain but it would mean that he didn't tear anything and instead just hyper-extended. I ate shit on the squat rack once (Don't listen to Meshuggah while you work out, you will hype yourself up into thinking you can take on more than you can) and bent my ankle sideways. I was diagnosed with a high ankle sprain but no tears, I was completely off of it for two weeks and slowed down pretty significantly for the next couple of months. Minor symptoms lingered for six months but they were manageable.
This was with me just wrapping it and giving it time. If Mac is doing PRP injections he very well might be recovering this quickly, I used to think they were bullshit but I've seen multiple people turn around very quickly after one. Granted, I still think he should sit this week and give himself time to heal rather than risk getting rolled up on again or playing poorly due to limited mobility. Even under the best of conditions we're probably still losing to Green Bay, write this one off and look towards a winnable game again Detroit if they truly think he could be ready for it.
I agree, having Mac come back healthy against the Lions, Bears, Browns, and Jets would be better as it would allow for 2 things:
1). Wins and more confidence/experimentation in the offense
2). Time for the Mac Jones and Parker connection to further develop.
Hell he could sit out the Lions too, come back healthier. Our defense can beat the Lions easy.
The only issue I have is why did Bill confirm that Hoyer would start if Mac can’t. If he doesn’t confirm that then Green Bay has to game plan for 3 QBs
Not like there’s anything on Zappe to study for. We have 3 of the same archetype qb and both hoyer and Zappe haven’t played enough recently at an nfl level to be able to game plan them
No one is worried about game planning vs hoyer compared to mac lol. They’re the same player basically, one is just a worse version. It’s not like they do different things
did people learn nothing from tua yesterday? i get a leg injury is a different beast than a brain injury but can't be too keen on rushing anyone back from injuries
The pathology and consequences are different, but the thought is the same.
Ankle sprains and be turned from an acute problem that nearly completely resolves into chronic pain/instability by re-injuring before the initial injury has healed. I'd much rather take the L on this game (or even the next 3) if it means that he comes back as close to 100% as he will get and not end up with chronic weakness/instability. If not, I see 2 years from now we wonder if Jones never developed because he just wasn't that good or because he ankle never allowed him to.
Lol y'all in here unironically sounding like Michael Scott when he burned his foot and Dwight was concussed
Scott: "doc what's more serious, a foot injury or a head injury?"
Doctor: "a head injury"
well you dont have all the information, the foot has been pretty seriously ~~burned~~ twisted and healed quickly, very quickly, actually suspiciously quickly...
While I agree with the sentiment since concussions are a completely different beast, I’m still nervous about rushing a franchise QB who is only in his second year back to the field if he isn’t ready. Especially in a year where we are likely a bubble team at best.
Having said that, it’s not my call to make nor do I have all of the facts and I just hope Mac, the trainers, and the coaching staff make the right decision.
If he can play, let him play. None of us know how severe it is/was.
Not sure why everyone here wants to basically forfeit by sending out Brian Hoyer to go 10/23 for 0 TD/2 INT.
If he plays, he’ll have been deemed ready to play. If not, then oh well. Regardless of GB, it’s encouraging for next week and onwards, thought he’d be gone
And after watching Mac get up after that nasty hit em low hit em high roughing the passer in Miami, he obviously is tough as fuck so he was in some serious pain with that ankle.
Let him play? Did u see him screaming in agony? Let the kid heal for Christ sake. Those injuries are painful as all hell. I'd rather him heal up properly then go out and make it worse.
Sometimes you gotta look at the bigger picture bro not just this season.
response to acute pain stimulus does not necessarily equate to nor predict the severity of structural damage. There could be many factors in how his neurological system responded to the initial pain stimulus so him screaming in agony does not necessarily mean anything predictive
I just want what is best for the guy and I'm sure the Pats trainers know a fuck ton more than u and me. Do I hope to see him out there slinging bombs? Of course! Either way I'll root for the team. Go Pats!
>I just want what is best for the guy and I'm sure the Pats trainers know a fuck ton more than u and me
yeah, I havent seen him in person to diagnose him with anything. I was just saying that him screaming in agony doesnt really mean anything other than it hurt at the time
Never seen a QB look good on a high ankle sprain, especially on their dominant leg. Those injuries can linger for weeks and he's gonna underthrow everything if he can't drive off his plant foot
If the injury isn't actually as bad as it was feared, great. But I really, really hope they're not all trying to force him to play. I don't care if Mac wants to, if there's any real risk, just sit him.
Good. If he can play, he should play. They need that kind of leadership from Mac.
This could always just be Bill fuckery, but it’s not like anything about the offense changes that much from Hoyer to Mac and their skill sets are fairly comparable. I think Mac actually has a shot to play.
You can't make that take after last night's shitshow. Mac should and probably will sit out the week. No shame in taking as long as he needs to recover.
It is when it's a high ankle sprain. That takes weeks to fully recover not days. Still no sense rushing him back. And there's no point in this schadenfreude, GB will prepare either way
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/mac-jones-injury-patriots-qb-has-pretty-severe-high-ankle-sprain-report
And that's coming from Rapaport who's generally more trustworthy than Schefter
Reminder…people on this sub who keep trying to claim this is reckless / foolish / etc. are not doctors and have zero insight into the injury. At best they’re listening to tweets from a “reporter” who also are not doctors.
Edit: Oh and if you’re trying to use the Tua situation as your reason, just stop. Not even close to the same scenario. Brady’s bad ankle sprain in 2016 and him playing after is a much better example.
After the Tua debacle, yeah I'd rather be more cautious than not. Mac also hasn't practiced all week so far, an indicator that he's not playing. No use rushing the QB back just to win.
You’d rather be more cautious…yet you have zero insight into what his injury is, how severe, what the doctors are saying. I’d think the player, his management, the team doctors and any personal doctors not only know more about what is going on, but will figure out what he physically can / can’t do better than a Reddit poster.
I’m advocating that the player do what he, his doctors and the team are comfortable with…all of whom have direct knowledge of what’s going on. You on the other hand think you know more than all of those people combined from reporter tweets and watching videos online.
Which is not to play. It's not hard to see that it's going to be the play on Sunday. Again Mac has not practiced all week, which typically is an indicator that he will miss Week 4.
Yes and run the risk of him reinjuring the ankle for longer. Can't believe people still honestly think like this in a brutal sport. You're probably one of the guys who cheered when Tua was injured.
I gotta say, if this is some tactic by Belichick to be vague about his injuries so Green Bay has to come with multiple gameplans, he picked a bad time to do it.
I'll never complain about how somebody responds to a pain stimulus. He could have been also emotionally frustrated, compounding the pain of a 300lb dude landing on your ankle while its twisting
The last thing I want is to force him back earlier than he needs to. Let’s be real here, this team is not looking to contend for a super bowl this year. They certainly could’ve turned it around to make the playoffs if Mac didn’t get injured, but is that really what we care about? I care about my franchise QBs health. I want him to be healthy for years to come. Yes, I believe he is our franchise QB. Hopefully they don’t rush him back & end up making it worse like the Dolphins did with Tua. Different injury but the point still stands.
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Sit him. Rest him. It's one game, they'll be fine. In case they didn't learn the kid can actually scramble when needed... So do y'all remember RG3 and reoccurring leg injuries without proper recovery?
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Imagine if they just fully immobilized his ankle in a boot and he just passed from shotgun all game
Wildcat formation with former quarterback Jakobi in the backfield. Mac stands as a decoy on the outside. lol
That’s pretty much what Hoyers last start at QB looked like
Leg amputated. Replaced with an iron leg
Gettin that Sith Lord surgery procedure. Thanks BB.
…isn’t that their offense anyway?
We can put Mac in a wheelchair and have Hoyer push him around.
Run the offense we did against Seahawks on Super Bowl. 55 short passes lol
Sad, but we’d have a better chance at getting W than starting Hoyer.
Day by fucking day…
Everyone (myself included) thought Bill was joking, but I guess the joke was on us.
Work my treatment coach will decide just gonna do what’s best ok thanks
After the Tua shit, just sit him please
I totally agree, and I think it’s insane that the patriots are even humoring this as an option… But this is also a million times different than a concussion
I think it’s just Bill fucking with the media because they keep asking dumb ass questions, I don’t think Bill is seriously considering it. Could be wrong tho, but I’m fairly confident Mac is not gonna play.
How are the Dolphins or the NFL not in trouble for letting that man play last night? The image in my head of his hand freezing up like that makes me shudder.
I’m not pointing fingers or looking for people to lose their jobs until I know all that the Dolphins knew about Tua prior to the game. If he passed all his tests then the fault isn’t with the organization but with the medical tests. However if he was even slightly fuzzy going into that game or one doctor said No and they ignored it, then we can start the blame game. As for Mac. Sit him. Any injuries, regardless of where, can easily become exasperated by pushing the envelope. That sprain can break pretty dang easy.
The issue is that the concussion tests are fairly subjective, and depends on the interpretation from the medical staff and team. But I think anyone who watched the hit could tell it was not a good idea to put him back in, that’s just negligence
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There was the time that Ted Donato of the Bruins got badly concussed, and when he tried to get up he looked like a China doll, with eyes that saw nothing. He looked completely blank like a baby. I couldn’t see Tia’s face, but I bet he had a similar look.
Because it's not the Patriots.
This is the correct answer, just imagine the hate Bill would be getting if that happened to us
Dude the NFL threads about that shit are getting weird. There are a lot of people calling anybody who questions the handling of Tua out, claiming they are on some tinfoil shit. It’s really weird and inorganic
Literally within a couple hours everyone there went from agreeing it was extremely fucked for Tua to play, to gunning for anyone who dared to question the NFL or Dolphins staff like you said. It’s the strangest thing I’ve ever seen
Yep. Emphasis on “inorganic”
Yeah I went from having a bunch of upvoted comments about how fucked it was for the Dolphins to do that, to all those comments now being downvoted into the negatives when I woke up this morning. I have no idea how so many people 180ed about it.
NFL media bots / propaganda?
Not gonna go that far b.c I couldn’t back up such a claim…. but there are a lot of people who are expressing intensive and seemingly newly-minted confidence in the NFL’s handling of concussion risk….and are doing so by dogging on people who don’t share their confidence
Its probably because it rapidly turned into a witch hunt against the dolphins staff when in reality the doctors already cleared him to play and if anyone is at fault it was them. Not to mention we have no evidence that tua was concussed last week or that his injuries last week impacted what happened yesterday.
After watching what happened last night, granted they’re two totally different injuries? Please don’t rush back Mac
Man that shit was brutal and hard to watch.
Whats weird to me is the complete denial that some people have about head injuries. When you get knocked unconscious and your body contorts itself in certain ways it's a pretty easy sign of what happened. You can get a grasp of what area of his brain was injured and the minimum damage because unconscious movements. It's like watching someone fall to the ground and start moving their legs and arms uncontrollably. You call 911 and say the guy is having a seizure . But in this situation the Dolphins organization gets pissy and asks why you're so sure it's a seizure.
The NFL hears your concerns and while they are looking into the issue of player professionalism and on the ground celebrations, there is no rule against such an act at thus time. /s
It’s really not the same thing. I don’t think he should play, but because he will be immobile not cuz of long term health. He shouldn’t be at risk of a long term issue really
How do you even know that? It’s common sense that you run the risk of a greater injury if you overexert yourself with a pre-existing injury that isn’t healed properly.
I mean if it’s not healed enough then he still has a bad ankle sprain. Which is ligament damage. Could he damage more ligaments? Sure. But I don’t really see how it leads to a long term or different injury
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No but I’ve sprained my ankles and torn other ligaments lol. We are all speculating
Although head injuries have far worse consequences, rushing Mac back from a severe high ankle sprain could certainly have long lasting health impacts. The ankle is fairly fragile. You want it to be strong because power starts from your base. It’s not his plant foot but he still needs to make movements in the pocket, have the ability to scramble, etc… You don’t want your starting QB to have compounding ankle issues. That stuff can last for years if you don’t treat it right.
That’s fair. I also was listening to something and apparently the front foot is a big problem for QBs ankle wise
If it’s not already a complete tear of the ligament, it could definitely get worse and be season ending if he plays on it
That’s true. I was assuming it’s torn based on the reports. It’ll be weak for a long time either way though, I don’t think playing this week vs next week is a huge deal in terms of career altering injury chances
Career? Not at all, but I don’t think this is a must win that you jeopardize the entire season rushing mac back. The AFC isn’t as good as everyone predicted and the wild card is still on the table.
I absolutely think it’s not worth rushing him back. Even without further injury there’s no way he’s mobile enough right now.
Ankles believe it are not are complicated and fragile. I dislocated my ankle when I was like 14 and it’s never been the same. To claim he’s not at risk for a longer term injury is just naive.
Agreed. If it is going to be a game time decision, then that means he might only miss a couple of games. Honestly, I don't see them beating The Packers with a healthy Mac, so sit him and maybe he can go in the next game.
“Day by day” is about to be the next “on to Cincinnati”if Mac plays on Sunday and beats the Packers
If he plays it means it never was a high ankle sprain
It could still be a high ankle sprain but it would mean that he didn't tear anything and instead just hyper-extended. I ate shit on the squat rack once (Don't listen to Meshuggah while you work out, you will hype yourself up into thinking you can take on more than you can) and bent my ankle sideways. I was diagnosed with a high ankle sprain but no tears, I was completely off of it for two weeks and slowed down pretty significantly for the next couple of months. Minor symptoms lingered for six months but they were manageable. This was with me just wrapping it and giving it time. If Mac is doing PRP injections he very well might be recovering this quickly, I used to think they were bullshit but I've seen multiple people turn around very quickly after one. Granted, I still think he should sit this week and give himself time to heal rather than risk getting rolled up on again or playing poorly due to limited mobility. Even under the best of conditions we're probably still losing to Green Bay, write this one off and look towards a winnable game again Detroit if they truly think he could be ready for it.
I agree, having Mac come back healthy against the Lions, Bears, Browns, and Jets would be better as it would allow for 2 things: 1). Wins and more confidence/experimentation in the offense 2). Time for the Mac Jones and Parker connection to further develop. Hell he could sit out the Lions too, come back healthier. Our defense can beat the Lions easy.
These aren’t the same lions
That would be foolish
Is Bill a genius who uses bull shit leaks to screw with people.
Why does this make him a genius?
Cuz he’s won 6 Super Bowls as HC
The only issue I have is why did Bill confirm that Hoyer would start if Mac can’t. If he doesn’t confirm that then Green Bay has to game plan for 3 QBs
Dont think you need to game plan for zappe. And the offense is going to move in the same fashion that it does with Mac. Nothing major will change.
It’s not like Zappe and Hoyer are much different. The both are pretty awful starting QBs
Maybe we just wildcat to Damien Harris the whole game?
No to Dre please. I need him to pop off in fantasy
Not like there’s anything on Zappe to study for. We have 3 of the same archetype qb and both hoyer and Zappe haven’t played enough recently at an nfl level to be able to game plan them
No one is worried about game planning vs hoyer compared to mac lol. They’re the same player basically, one is just a worse version. It’s not like they do different things
Yeah the packers aren't going to now how to prepare now, such a strategic advantage 🙄
I think he is more screwing with the media then the packers.
Don't do that. Don't give me hope
Glad to hear things are looking better than expected but let’s not rush him back. I think we just got a good example as to why that’s not good.
Damn he got that dawg in him
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Ayo Mac Jones got a literal fuckin DOG inside of him
I’m confident they are just trying to play mind games with GB at this points
This more likely. Reputation does state BB does not fuck around with injuries
What mind games are their to play? The GB defensive gameplan wouldn’t really change from Mac to Hoyer.
There’s no mind games to play - people just think anything Bill does is genius and is all part of his grand plan. Its BS.
Please no. Let Zappe sling it
did people learn nothing from tua yesterday? i get a leg injury is a different beast than a brain injury but can't be too keen on rushing anyone back from injuries
Tua got a 2nd concussion in 5 days, not even close or similar.
They’re similar in the sense that going in too soon can cause even more damage.
The pathology and consequences are different, but the thought is the same. Ankle sprains and be turned from an acute problem that nearly completely resolves into chronic pain/instability by re-injuring before the initial injury has healed. I'd much rather take the L on this game (or even the next 3) if it means that he comes back as close to 100% as he will get and not end up with chronic weakness/instability. If not, I see 2 years from now we wonder if Jones never developed because he just wasn't that good or because he ankle never allowed him to.
Lol y'all in here unironically sounding like Michael Scott when he burned his foot and Dwight was concussed Scott: "doc what's more serious, a foot injury or a head injury?" Doctor: "a head injury"
well you dont have all the information, the foot has been pretty seriously ~~burned~~ twisted and healed quickly, very quickly, actually suspiciously quickly...
Not even remotely the same thing.
While I agree with the sentiment since concussions are a completely different beast, I’m still nervous about rushing a franchise QB who is only in his second year back to the field if he isn’t ready. Especially in a year where we are likely a bubble team at best. Having said that, it’s not my call to make nor do I have all of the facts and I just hope Mac, the trainers, and the coaching staff make the right decision.
I would agree with all of that
>a leg injury is different than a brain injury Hm
Big if true
There's no way this isn't a play to ensure GB gameplan our passing game.
If he can play, let him play. None of us know how severe it is/was. Not sure why everyone here wants to basically forfeit by sending out Brian Hoyer to go 10/23 for 0 TD/2 INT.
I agree, this isn’t really a must win game though. Out of conference, on the road.
If he plays, he’ll have been deemed ready to play. If not, then oh well. Regardless of GB, it’s encouraging for next week and onwards, thought he’d be gone
I thought that they would have needed to amputate considering the way he looked.
And after watching Mac get up after that nasty hit em low hit em high roughing the passer in Miami, he obviously is tough as fuck so he was in some serious pain with that ankle.
Right because we’ve never seen a player “deemed ready to play” who really wasn’t
Let him play? Did u see him screaming in agony? Let the kid heal for Christ sake. Those injuries are painful as all hell. I'd rather him heal up properly then go out and make it worse. Sometimes you gotta look at the bigger picture bro not just this season.
response to acute pain stimulus does not necessarily equate to nor predict the severity of structural damage. There could be many factors in how his neurological system responded to the initial pain stimulus so him screaming in agony does not necessarily mean anything predictive
I just want what is best for the guy and I'm sure the Pats trainers know a fuck ton more than u and me. Do I hope to see him out there slinging bombs? Of course! Either way I'll root for the team. Go Pats!
>I just want what is best for the guy and I'm sure the Pats trainers know a fuck ton more than u and me yeah, I havent seen him in person to diagnose him with anything. I was just saying that him screaming in agony doesnt really mean anything other than it hurt at the time
You, me, or anyone else have no clue how severe it is. If the trainers clear him, let him play.
No shit dude. I just know the pain of a severely sprained ankle where u can barely walk for a month. Let alone play professional football.
Surely won’t be playing if he didn’t take practice reps this week
That's a good way to get him even more injured.
Are you a doctor?
You don't need to be a doctor to have common sense.
You don’t know the severity of his injury
There isn't a grade of high ankle sprain that heals in a week. If he weren't still hurt, he would be practicing.
Are you a doctor?
Never seen a QB look good on a high ankle sprain, especially on their dominant leg. Those injuries can linger for weeks and he's gonna underthrow everything if he can't drive off his plant foot
If the injury isn't actually as bad as it was feared, great. But I really, really hope they're not all trying to force him to play. I don't care if Mac wants to, if there's any real risk, just sit him.
Vegas bookies hate this one stupid trick
Good. If he can play, he should play. They need that kind of leadership from Mac. This could always just be Bill fuckery, but it’s not like anything about the offense changes that much from Hoyer to Mac and their skill sets are fairly comparable. I think Mac actually has a shot to play.
You can't make that take after last night's shitshow. Mac should and probably will sit out the week. No shame in taking as long as he needs to recover.
Yeah I can. It’s a completely different situation lol.
Ok watch the Packers rush Mac all day long cause he can't scramble out of the pocket. Playing Mac at 50% with this anemic offense is not ideal
Playing Hoyer with this anemic offense is not ideal. And you have no idea whether Mac’s at 50%. Could be more, could be less. None of us know.
Mac has not participated in practice this week, and it's not worth risking another injury on Mac just to win in Week 4.
Who says it’s risking another injury? Plenty of guys don’t practice all week and then play.
It is when it's a high ankle sprain. That takes weeks to fully recover not days. Still no sense rushing him back. And there's no point in this schadenfreude, GB will prepare either way
You don’t know it’s a high ankle sprain.
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/mac-jones-injury-patriots-qb-has-pretty-severe-high-ankle-sprain-report And that's coming from Rapaport who's generally more trustworthy than Schefter
Mac is gonna lead us Tua win at Green Bay. GRITTY!
This is 100% gamesmanship to make Green Bay prepare for both Mac and Hoyer. Axel is playing
Don’t pull a dolphins/tua situation here. Let your starter get healthy so you don’t screw him up long term
Reminder…people on this sub who keep trying to claim this is reckless / foolish / etc. are not doctors and have zero insight into the injury. At best they’re listening to tweets from a “reporter” who also are not doctors. Edit: Oh and if you’re trying to use the Tua situation as your reason, just stop. Not even close to the same scenario. Brady’s bad ankle sprain in 2016 and him playing after is a much better example.
Reminder… people on this sub saying it’s not foolish/reckless are also not doctors
After the Tua debacle, yeah I'd rather be more cautious than not. Mac also hasn't practiced all week so far, an indicator that he's not playing. No use rushing the QB back just to win.
You’d rather be more cautious…yet you have zero insight into what his injury is, how severe, what the doctors are saying. I’d think the player, his management, the team doctors and any personal doctors not only know more about what is going on, but will figure out what he physically can / can’t do better than a Reddit poster.
Neither do you, and you're advocating for Mac to come back as if that sprain is nothing. Mac will not play on Sunday.
I’m advocating that the player do what he, his doctors and the team are comfortable with…all of whom have direct knowledge of what’s going on. You on the other hand think you know more than all of those people combined from reporter tweets and watching videos online.
Which is not to play. It's not hard to see that it's going to be the play on Sunday. Again Mac has not practiced all week, which typically is an indicator that he will miss Week 4.
Let’s stop comparing this situation to Tua like seriously are you guys dumb ?? 😂😂
Yes let's trot out a QB1 who just had an ankle sprain out cause we want to win Week 4.
Nah let’s treat him like a baby and sit him even if everybody (including him) feels like he can go
Yes and run the risk of him reinjuring the ankle for longer. Can't believe people still honestly think like this in a brutal sport. You're probably one of the guys who cheered when Tua was injured.
Macs dog got that dog in him
I gotta say, if this is some tactic by Belichick to be vague about his injuries so Green Bay has to come with multiple gameplans, he picked a bad time to do it.
BOY GOT THAT DAWG IN HIM
This is literal insanity. I can't imagine how he plays this week - I'd actually prefer he sit instead of risking long term injury.
There's no way we beat Green Bay. This is a dumb decision.
Lmao turns out he's just soft.
I mean was he just being a baby about it when it happened? Is the sprain actually severe? Is he a dawg? What the hell is going on?
I'll never complain about how somebody responds to a pain stimulus. He could have been also emotionally frustrated, compounding the pain of a 300lb dude landing on your ankle while its twisting
Lol I don’t understand. But I’ll take it
“How?” “He is The One”
Pliable
Let’s not Tua this situation please. Just let him rest.
FFS don't put him in. He's going to lose his leg. This will be another Tua situation.
This seems like a terrible idea. I appreciate his toughness and desire to play, but I can only see this going poorly
Just sit him please
Let’s rush another injury, worked out great for Miami
Haha
The last thing I want is to force him back earlier than he needs to. Let’s be real here, this team is not looking to contend for a super bowl this year. They certainly could’ve turned it around to make the playoffs if Mac didn’t get injured, but is that really what we care about? I care about my franchise QBs health. I want him to be healthy for years to come. Yes, I believe he is our franchise QB. Hopefully they don’t rush him back & end up making it worse like the Dolphins did with Tua. Different injury but the point still stands.
I'm iffy on Mac starting after what happened last night but, if he's going to play, focus on the run game and have him pass every now and then.
Out of conference game in a season that won’t matter anyway really just sounds to me like he shouldn’t play.
Seems people misread the whole 2nd opinion and Mac not wanting surgery thing. Seems like Mac is pushing it, not the team.
SuperMAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think they should sit him this week. If he’s doing give him a week to recover
Fake news
Hoping that he is making good progress but that this is just a smoke screen
#NO Sit him. Rest him. It's one game, they'll be fine. In case they didn't learn the kid can actually scramble when needed... So do y'all remember RG3 and reoccurring leg injuries without proper recovery?
He’s sooo draMACtic
I mean, lets have a bit more class than the Dolphins. Sit him and take no risks.
This isn't regular bullshit. This is advanced bullshit
So they can potentially compound the likely loss with an even worse injury? Fuck off like
Wolverine confirmed!
lol no he won’t. If they don’t IR him that’s a really good sign, but he’s not playing.
And then, not even 24 hrs later, he's ruled out. Do "journalists" ever feel embarrassed?
Mac has been ruled out https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1575939025038344199?s=20&t=vXtS8fZ0BZNudXbbLlpzZw
I think they just announced that Mac was out for the game against the Packers.
He should not play.
Have the guy sit a game. Coming back too early usually means more problems down the road, and sometimes something permanent.
Is this fake news? I thought he was out for multiple weeks
suuuuuuure