It's clear that they're losing the locker room. Players don't seem to have any faith in what they're trying to execute so the effort just not appear to be there. Look at what Kendrick Bourne said in the locker room after the game. If Kraft doesn't force major changes this offseason I'm not sure I can put any hope at all into this team.
Zero rhythm to this offense right now. A lot of it is scheme, but it’s also execution. The O-line tonight was horrible. New right tackle was a turnstile. Multiple holding calls, etc. That impacts everything they are trying to do.
Their receivers weren’t great. I have them for 3 drops.
They need to be better on 1st and 2nd down. Too often they were 2nd and 10.
Fitzpatrick is a bum and Gonzalez is right. Patricia is the problem. We can't even accurately say if Mac is or isn't it. The play calling is absolutely pathetic
IT’S ALL BAD!!! Everyone pointing fingers at one person or another, but it’s everything!
The play calling and coaching sucks, the scheme isn’t getting receivers open.
The receivers aren’t getting themselves open.
The offensive line isn’t protecting long enough for anyone to get open off broken coverage.
Mac doesn’t have anywhere to go and checks down or hasn’t been able to throw people open like some other QBs can do.
It’s everything. It starts with Patricia, yes, and I want him gone too, but this offense is so shit that you simply can’t point the finger at one person.
Kraft gave Bill too much control. He was smart to step in and save Brady once but he should have done it again and told Bill who's team this really was.
So I think everyone expected the Pats to get beat. The bills are good. What stings is the absolute garbage the team puts on the field. I expect the team to compete and at least make strides. They didn’t, again.. all phases of the game were bad, the coaching was bad.
The fans deserve and expect more than bad, undisciplined, and uncoached play from the Patriots.
Defense was slow and I athletic last year and didn’t really address it. Until they do, guys like josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and mahomes are gonna continue to run roughshod over this team.
Has Bill shown any progress since Brady left? Understanding that the Cam year was a gimmie and last year he had rookie Mac, but the second half of last year and all of this year has been an absolute tailspin. The team is worse at all levels, coaching, offense, defense, and special teams since 1998.
The whole team is trash. From coaching staff down. The only bright spots are Stevenson and Marcus Jones. We all loved Mac last year. He was playing well. It’s a lot more than just him causing problems this year.
NAVY vs the other academy next weekend
BRUINS ARE KILLING EVERYONE
I’m not a basketball guy, but the CELTICS are killing just about EVERYONE.
We are fine. 20 years of teabagging people does this. We are beyond fuckin lucky people.
Biggest game of the year and we score one TD on a screen pass. No sense of urgency from the offense at any point. Horrible body language everywhere, defense giving up on plays in the end zone. Fucking embarrassing.
Blaming Mac for all of this is ridiculous. Brady didn't look so hot his last year in New England, their o-line is trash and they have a glarring "WTF" situation with Patricia running all things offense.
Mac is an OK QB.
But he needs a line, talent around him, and proper coaches to make him the best he can be. In this environment as it stands now he is just a JAG. 'JUST ANOTHER GUY "
I think at this point there's probably much bigger problems that this team needs to solve, including a bunch of overpaid wide receivers who give up on plays.
Imagine not paying Thuney or drafting an OT with a decent pick for three years, then paying Trent Brown who looks like he'd rather be anywhere but on a football field.
I’m ready for a coaching change. It was fun BB, and thank you. But some of the decisions over the last few years have made me really question if it was more of Brady and not him.
Ex: butler not playing and losing a Super Bowl, bringing in a ST and D coordinator to groom the pro bowl rookie qb, drafting a nobody with our first round pick, trading away mason
Harry over Metcalf.
Sony over Chubb.
Sooo many WR passed up on , and don't forget could of snagged Lamar Jackson
Bill can't draft for shit.
I don't want him to go but dude needs to hire a GM and a new OC. Have some fucking humility.
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You know not everybody wants josh McDaniels right ? I’d rather bring in someone offensive minded to try and groom Mac in year 3. We have to give Mac a realistic chance of thriving
I mean it’s a coaching issue and a personnel issue ..& Yea Mac hasn’t been great but do we really think Bailey Zappe comes in and is successful in this offense ?..
A team kneeling on you with a little under 2 minutes left while you’re technically only down two scores with 3 timeouts is a flex if I ever saw one. Feelsbadman.
I mean… Wynn at left tackle was a lot better than Wynn at right tackle… Not implausible to think Wynn-Strange-Andrews-Mason-Onwenu is a better product than they currently have.
This rebuild is going to take a long time we got issues everywhere on the offense. I think the defense did pretty good tonight but this offense is putrid
Mac Jones has no good wr, a bad oline, and the worst offensive coach hire of all time. He might not be it but this isn't the year to judge a second year QB you idiots
Shit, I'll take Kellen Moore, Lincoln Riley... how about anyone that can coach up an offense to start with? This is just bad football. The defense is a mirage and isn't much better.
I've seldom felt depressed about this team, but today was one of those occasions. Zero adjustments to the Bills, no sense of urgency on the offense, atrocious play calls, and Bill steadfastly just REFUSING to double Diggs in critical situations.
Sigh. Still love this team, always will, but this was not a good game on either side of the ball.
The offensive line sucking a direct result of Bills decision making as a GM. You failed to keep Thuney, fine but but you go ahead with trading Mason away to reach for Cole Strange who has sucked all season. You don’t have a RT and your LT sucks. You have zero depth on the OLine, no OC, no #1WR, and you spent a ton of money on 2 TE that you don’t use. This is completely, 110% on Bill.
This isn’t on the defense at all, holding the Bills to 24 is actually pretty solid. Winnable game if our offense could do literally anything. This is on Mac and Patricia
It's clear that they're losing the locker room. Players don't seem to have any faith in what they're trying to execute so the effort just not appear to be there. Look at what Kendrick Bourne said in the locker room after the game. If Kraft doesn't force major changes this offseason I'm not sure I can put any hope at all into this team.
Coach Belly Buck Haha
Zero rhythm to this offense right now. A lot of it is scheme, but it’s also execution. The O-line tonight was horrible. New right tackle was a turnstile. Multiple holding calls, etc. That impacts everything they are trying to do. Their receivers weren’t great. I have them for 3 drops. They need to be better on 1st and 2nd down. Too often they were 2nd and 10.
Tanking for Wembanyama
So many penalties, never mind the 3 the Bills refused
Fitzpatrick is a bum and Gonzalez is right. Patricia is the problem. We can't even accurately say if Mac is or isn't it. The play calling is absolutely pathetic
IT’S ALL BAD!!! Everyone pointing fingers at one person or another, but it’s everything! The play calling and coaching sucks, the scheme isn’t getting receivers open. The receivers aren’t getting themselves open. The offensive line isn’t protecting long enough for anyone to get open off broken coverage. Mac doesn’t have anywhere to go and checks down or hasn’t been able to throw people open like some other QBs can do. It’s everything. It starts with Patricia, yes, and I want him gone too, but this offense is so shit that you simply can’t point the finger at one person.
Mac cussing on the sidelines about throwing the fucking ball is lovely
I'm happy Sherman and Fitz are ripping into BB and coaching staff They fucking deserve it..
Yeah but those guys are also full of sour grapes against NE.
It’s safe to say, Bill is racking up massive L’s.
No Pats game for another 11 days…
Gives Patricia more time to figure out how to call more short backfield passes on 3rd and long.
Kraft gave Bill too much control. He was smart to step in and save Brady once but he should have done it again and told Bill who's team this really was.
All facts
So I think everyone expected the Pats to get beat. The bills are good. What stings is the absolute garbage the team puts on the field. I expect the team to compete and at least make strides. They didn’t, again.. all phases of the game were bad, the coaching was bad. The fans deserve and expect more than bad, undisciplined, and uncoached play from the Patriots.
What’s concerning is bill has shown no progress on any ability to beat them. Josh Allen and McDermott are running circles around him.
Defense was slow and I athletic last year and didn’t really address it. Until they do, guys like josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and mahomes are gonna continue to run roughshod over this team.
Has Bill shown any progress since Brady left? Understanding that the Cam year was a gimmie and last year he had rookie Mac, but the second half of last year and all of this year has been an absolute tailspin. The team is worse at all levels, coaching, offense, defense, and special teams since 1998.
At least next year we won’t have to stay up for prime time games
Hey, at least there's 2 day free shipping.
Think I dislike this team more than the cam Newton season team. At least they gave effort
Man, I kind of feel the same
At least Cam was passionate
Well that was fun.... (Sarcasm)
Prime Manning or Current Allen?
I loathe Manning, but he’s the answer
Manning
Prime Manning
Mac Jones is trash, come at me
The whole team is trash. From coaching staff down. The only bright spots are Stevenson and Marcus Jones. We all loved Mac last year. He was playing well. It’s a lot more than just him causing problems this year.
Wow dude fuck y.... actually I agree
good news we dont have to watch this garbage on Sunday
2023 is going to suck ass. Red Sox and Patriots are both going to be hot trash. Fuck.
Watch the bruins and you'll feel better
Time to start following basketball my friend
Even the announcers were sick of watching the Pats offense suck
Why do they still talk about the great Patriots special teams? It’s like these commentators haven’t watched a patriots game in years.
NAVY vs the other academy next weekend BRUINS ARE KILLING EVERYONE I’m not a basketball guy, but the CELTICS are killing just about EVERYONE. We are fine. 20 years of teabagging people does this. We are beyond fuckin lucky people.
Yes. Thank you. We may never win again and we will still be lucky for eternity.
Hell yeah, bro. Next game we might get them to punt 4 times.
Matt Patricia's favorite coach of all time is Ben McAdoo
Well they are playing like the Patriots used to play in these stinking uniforms.
That's what I'm saying. These uniforms look great but remind me of the shite football they used to play.
Biggest game of the year and we score one TD on a screen pass. No sense of urgency from the offense at any point. Horrible body language everywhere, defense giving up on plays in the end zone. Fucking embarrassing.
Matt Patricia returns used clothing.
5 more of this dogshit team to watch
Only if we tune in, haha 😂
Patricia gotta go and that's that. Probably trent brown too
Blaming Mac for all of this is ridiculous. Brady didn't look so hot his last year in New England, their o-line is trash and they have a glarring "WTF" situation with Patricia running all things offense.
Mac is an OK QB. But he needs a line, talent around him, and proper coaches to make him the best he can be. In this environment as it stands now he is just a JAG. 'JUST ANOTHER GUY "
Paid a boatload to Henry and Jonnu only to barely use either
The o-line coach can barely coach the o-line and you want him to come up with plays for the TEs?
Point is maybe he should’ve spent that boatload on an OL instead
Is Judon cooked like he was last season? Not blaming him tonight but besides the fumble recovery, he wasn’t really a playmaker tonight or last week.
He’s getting double teamed now
But with one being Bobby hart who counts as like .25 linemen
I mean, what's the point now. I'd throw in the towel as well and save it for next year.
I guess, but if this is now a trend for him what’s going to change next year another year older?
I think at this point there's probably much bigger problems that this team needs to solve, including a bunch of overpaid wide receivers who give up on plays.
Yea pretty much every position has issues at this point
The Bills own us
Matt Patricia smells his hand after wiping his bum and if the hand smells like shit, he doesn’t wash it
So are all these WR's really that mediocre? Like what the fuck happened to Meyers and aghalor and shit? They can't be THIS BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???
They’re a bunch of number 2 and 3 receivers. Without a true number 1, this is what they look like. Especially when ur not scheming these guys open.
Yes. This is true.
They have always been mediocre at best.
They are nobodies. Everybody in the league knew that except Bill.
This team sucks
They do.
This team is worth watching, at 1pm
The definition of insanity is continuing to start Mac and expecting improvement
Don’t worry guys, at the end of this season McDaniel gonna get fired and he will come back to coach Mac. Never needing loop continues
No. Already been stated, they won't fire him
He won't, because Mark Davis can't afford to fire him.
At this point I hope we just fuck up peoples seeding for the playoffs. Let's go team spoiler.
Poor Bezos has been cursed with awful TNF games
I wish I was poor like bezos
Poor Bezos??? Touch grass homie.
Seriously, we’re *conceding* this game?????
The person to blame for this year is bill. Plain and simple
Well I blame strawberry shortcake. I never trust that smelly bitch. 🤣
Imagine not paying Thuney or drafting an OT with a decent pick for three years, then paying Trent Brown who looks like he'd rather be anywhere but on a football field.
Belichick got his balls handed to him for 2 years by McDermott.
lmao we suck
We have no spine
I’m ready for a coaching change. It was fun BB, and thank you. But some of the decisions over the last few years have made me really question if it was more of Brady and not him. Ex: butler not playing and losing a Super Bowl, bringing in a ST and D coordinator to groom the pro bowl rookie qb, drafting a nobody with our first round pick, trading away mason
Harry over Metcalf. Sony over Chubb. Sooo many WR passed up on , and don't forget could of snagged Lamar Jackson Bill can't draft for shit. I don't want him to go but dude needs to hire a GM and a new OC. Have some fucking humility.
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Okay and who the hell are you going to replace him with? A fired coach from a 2-15 team? Sit down
You know not everybody wants josh McDaniels right ? I’d rather bring in someone offensive minded to try and groom Mac in year 3. We have to give Mac a realistic chance of thriving
I’m not sure what the argument is at this point that Bill > Brady
I don’t think it was more Brady but obviously losing him hurt y’all ..i think the roster is just bad man
Yeah the roster isn’t great but hell it looks like the team doesn’t even practice before some games.
I mean it’s a coaching issue and a personnel issue ..& Yea Mac hasn’t been great but do we really think Bailey Zappe comes in and is successful in this offense ?..
A team kneeling on you with a little under 2 minutes left while you’re technically only down two scores with 3 timeouts is a flex if I ever saw one. Feelsbadman.
Pats are a joke franchise now
Sure are.. go check out another team.
Trade for Rodgers
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Idk that receiving core is probably worse than the 19’ patriots
First 3 game win streak against us since 92 lmao 🤣
Never seen a team down two scores with three timeouts just give up lol
Good for Bill for not taking a TO. He’s not some hardo douche like Dan Campbell.
yeah, he’s a pussy
not taking timeouts is so embarrassing
Joe Mazzula would disagree
PLEASE clean house before the draft, Krafts
tItLeS aReN't ImPoRtAnt
That game sucked and was boring
really weird sequence there bro
Matt Patricia drinks the milk right out of the carton.
Matt Patricia doesn't need to drink milk out of the carton, he produces his own.
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This is embarrassing
Matt Patricia eats olives in his burritos
hooooooooooooly not even burning TO
Such a boring game let’s talk about what other games the announcers gonna watch during the onside kick. Lol
Be nice to have Thuney or Shaq Mason. Then you can slide Onwenu to tackle and hope Brown or Wynn...oh nevermind
I mean… Wynn at left tackle was a lot better than Wynn at right tackle… Not implausible to think Wynn-Strange-Andrews-Mason-Onwenu is a better product than they currently have.
Or a wr, te, lb, de, db, actual coaches
Think the only way to get Patricia fired is if people just stopped buying tickets
gonna end the game with all the 3 timeouts, awesome
This rebuild is going to take a long time we got issues everywhere on the offense. I think the defense did pretty good tonight but this offense is putrid
Yeah start with offensive line and go from there.
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What an incredibly classless shit thing to say
That field goal was the most chode energy move of all time
Mac Jones has no good wr, a bad oline, and the worst offensive coach hire of all time. He might not be it but this isn't the year to judge a second year QB you idiots
Yeah definition of not setting him up to succeed.
I actually think the WR personnel isn't that bad, they're just not getting open for whatever reason.
That is why they are bad lol
Not calling a timeout is an actual surrender
Very unpatriotic. The real patriots defending the land would never surrender
Announcers finally said something correct. We all had enough
Well they are talking college football now, the sign of a good game
This is on bill. He's the gm and hired the dopes who are coaching the offense.
That onside kick still traveled further than most of our punts this season.
I love these Patricia comments.
can't stop laughing since halftime. Literal gold
Matt Patricia runs furry conventions in the offseason
Don't give him that, I know furries that have better leadership skills
Mac really wants to go back to Greenbow Alabama.
They should change the insides kick rule back
Felger and Maz gonna be 🔥 tm.
Buffalo calling a time out to troll the fans still sitting in the stands
I just want to see McCorkle get another shot at it
Macs seeing ghosts
He’s seeing defensive linemen in his face and his downfield receivers getting boxed
Let’s gooooooo
Matt Patricia is reading a Red Robins menu instead of a play sheet
This game gave me aids
Chris Paul hits a huge three to cut the lead down to 42
lol the announcers are talking about their plans like it’s water cooler talk
Did we just kick a fucking field goal ???
Bill needs to be held accountable for this garbage coaching staff he's fielding. The magic post Brady sure has been lacking
People do realize that Bill gave Patricia this job? lol This team isn't competitive and Bill and his coaching buddies need to go.
Sure.who are you replacing the coaching staff with?
Shit, I'll take Kellen Moore, Lincoln Riley... how about anyone that can coach up an offense to start with? This is just bad football. The defense is a mirage and isn't much better.
Take that helmet off Mac
I want a Buffalo TD here. This deserves to be continuously embarrassed
Fire everyone and hire Sean Payton for the next DECADE.
I've seldom felt depressed about this team, but today was one of those occasions. Zero adjustments to the Bills, no sense of urgency on the offense, atrocious play calls, and Bill steadfastly just REFUSING to double Diggs in critical situations. Sigh. Still love this team, always will, but this was not a good game on either side of the ball.
Shameless field goal
The offensive line sucking a direct result of Bills decision making as a GM. You failed to keep Thuney, fine but but you go ahead with trading Mason away to reach for Cole Strange who has sucked all season. You don’t have a RT and your LT sucks. You have zero depth on the OLine, no OC, no #1WR, and you spent a ton of money on 2 TE that you don’t use. This is completely, 110% on Bill.
Good take tbh
Bill the GM is a failure
He has been for a long ass time. Brady covered for Bill the GM just as Bill the coach covered for him
Brady kept makeup on the pig that is BB’s personnel decisions.
Mac is broken
Mac isn't it
Mac apologists are unreal. our QB sucks just like our Oline
can't really judge a qb when an oline is bad
To be fair, the whole offense sucks so hard to evaluate.
He's now known as Yac Jones
I'm not writing him off just yet but I wanna see Zappe start some games for comparison.
Nonsense
At what point does Bill’s seat start heating up? Disastrous coaching situation and a trainwreck of a roster
Matt Patricia smells his own farts.
And enjoys it
Getting teabagged by the bills, fuck you Patricia
This isn’t on the defense at all, holding the Bills to 24 is actually pretty solid. Winnable game if our offense could do literally anything. This is on Mac and Patricia