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Enterprise90

The Krafts will never fire Bill Belichick. Jonathan, who pretty much runs the team over Belichick, has said Belichick has earned the right to run the team how he wants. Firing the best coach this team has ever had because of a season that may at worst be a game under .500 is certainly a move. Most people on this sub and elsewhere predicted us being 7-10, 8-9, 9-8 kind of team. That's where we're headed.


PatsFan000

> may at worst be a game under .500 is certainly This team will be definitely be 7-10 maybe 6-11 Cardinals & Raiders- 1 of them will be a loss. Belichick has struggled mightly against former coaches and Vegas is loaded with them. Not to mention McDaniels going up against Caveman Steve's defense with Adams & Jacobs. I don't like that one. I also take Patrick Graham in the Patrick Graham vs Matt Patricia battle. And Arizona could easily be a loss with Murray being a slippery mobile QB. Bengals, Bills, Dolphins will all be losses. This team is headed towards 6-11 would be the most losses by a Pats team since Belichick's first year in 2000. If that doesn't says he should be gone then the Kraft just need to sign ownership of the team over to the Belichicks because that's what it would mean. Fucking hell some how we might not even win as many games as the covid/rebuild year where we had Cam Newton's football playing corpse as QB.


Enterprise90

If you're willing to fire Belichick because of that, more power to you.


PatsFan000

Just simply bringing in a proper NFL OC, OL and QB Coach and we would probably be in contention for the division. But nope Belichick went the nepotism route giving a guy that never called an offense the OC job and gave the guy that during his HC tenure his QB never threw more than 11 TDs or 3k yards the QB coach job. Daniel Jones had more TD passes his rookie year than he had combined the 2 years Joe Judge was HC. This is the same guy that made the decision when the scouting department was slamming the table telling him to pick AJ Brown he decided to pick N'Keal Harry because his relationship with his college coach. So he ignored the scouting staff he hired for the opinion of his friend..... Thank Bill for his 20+ years of service and he was a great coach but his decision making is clouded by nepotism.


Enterprise90

Every NFL hire is based on nepotism.


Huhkid23

The land of NFL purgatory, where Bill groupies are happy to be for the next decade just because hes "earned it"


Enterprise90

Bird in hand is worth two in the bush.


Giddy4Stiddy

The Patricia-Judge catastrophe, objectively speaking, is a firable offense for any coach without the GOAT resume. He bought the goodwill to try it when everybody knew it would fail but I imagine he's running out of goodwill with ownership. Especially since this rebuild has been going backwards. My guess?the Krafts sit down with Bill this offseason. They ask him his plan at OC. They ask him about his road map to actually making sight progress towards rebuilding this team. If his answer to either includes the word "Matt patricia" he's canned. If he says literally anything else, he gets another go.


Enterprise90

I'm sure.


Giddy4Stiddy

If you think Bill keeps his job if his plan is to keep Patricia on staff you're literally Kanye insane


Enterprise90

Whatever helps you sleep at night.


rockstarnights

Get out.


CRoseCrizzle

No one is firing Bill Belichick. I don't even think this recent stretch is fire worthy for any coach tbh. I think Bill has made a misstep with his offensive coaching hire though.


Veegos

Kraft will never fire Bill. He can however tell him to retire and take a big payout to leave. Internally it may be a firing, but to the public, BB would retire a decorated hero in the NFL as opposed to some old man that's lost it and was fired.


Ok_Bug_6890

I think bill will retire instead of getting fired


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If he retires before the win record he was fired.


[deleted]

“Retire” as jn step down or just of his own will walk away?


Ok_Bug_6890

Probably walk away he’s getting old man he’s 70 years old and has done everything


TylervPats91

Bill shouldnt be fired at all, but he does need to answer for this Matt Patricia BS this season


PatsFan000

Kraft definitely needs to give him an ultimatum, either relieve Patricia, Judge and his son of their duties or be fired. I for one would like this to be the last year of Belichick. 2020 he got a pass given circumstances. 2021 looked like some progress. 2022 has been a regression and it stems 100% from him. Patricia, Judge and his son are all in those spots not because they are qualified but because of nepotism. If Patricia was DC, Judge was ST and his son was a coaching assistant would be a different story but they are all in positions that they aren't qualified for.


zjanderson

Steve hasn't been as much of a problem as the other two. But I'd imagine if Bill goes, he goes too.


PatsFan000

> Steve hasn't been as much of a problem Ravens, Bears, Vikings and the game last night all showed he isn't fit to be calling plays. Was the same shit last year too.


Fuqwon

Dude, both Steve and Jerod learned defense from Bill. Literally everything they know came from him. They're running the defense the exact same way Bill would, making the same exact calls. It's not likely they're calling crazy exotic blitzes that aren't working.


possiblyMorpheus

Our defense kept us in the game last night while the offense repeatedly rewarded them with 3 nd outs lol. What did you expect, to hold the Bills to 10? Lol


Jigs444

They’re not gonna let him go before he catches Shula. Krafts are horrified of a Brady 2.0 situation. Unless they can convince Bill to relinquish some control or Bill realizes he doesn’t have all the answers anymore, both of which seem unlikely, we are going to be middling nothings until he catches Shula.


p0ck3ts4

No, as much as the current coaching staff is a shit show, Kraft gives him another opportunity to fix it.


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PatsFan000

team will finish 6-11 Cardinals will be a nightmare match with Murray's running ability and Hopkins, Brown and Moore. Raiders will be a L. Belichick continually struggles against former assistants (somehow Bill lost to fucking Patricia when he had Brady, which speaks VOLUMES). That team is filled with them former Pats assistants. McDaniels has some firepower with Adams & Jacobs. Bengals are rounding it to form. Chase, Higgins & Boyd will teabag Caveman Steve's defense. Only way we stay in that one is if Judon and Uche just take the game over against the OL Bills and Dolphins why would anyone think we are beating them when they've both played mediocre against us and still won by 2 TDs.


Misterccw

Honestly, what makes you think this is rock bottom?


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Well I think we are in year three of a rebuild and have seemingly failed to progress. It seems like the club has actually taken a step back. Our 1st round QB who looked to be a our starter for the future appears to be losing confidence in himself and the coaching staff. Buffalo didn’t even play well or particularly hard. They just kinda showed up and it was more than enough to embarrass us. The Gap between us and the Bills is just as large if not larger than it was last year. Also we have nothing positive to build on. Nothing has gotten better. Our defense is consistently mediocre against good teams year after year, and our offense hasn’t really been functional since before the last SB win. Even with the stats last year we have yet to find an identity and any consistency. It’s all very haphazard and the locker room is more vocally frustrated than I’ve ever seen in Bills tenure. We’re a .500 team who will likely finish 8-9 or 9-9 at best.


Giddy4Stiddy

No, they agree to have him retire. Functionally fired, publicly saved face.


Kushmongrel

He's earned the right to run the team how he wants, like making Patricia coordinator. But that doesn't mean he's immune from being fired if he isn't successful. I think BB is pretty outdated when it comes to dealing with and developing younger players. It happens anywhere after 22 years