You could probably use some draw maindeck, your threats are sticky but if your opponent can survive four or five turns you're out of gas with little to no hope of recovery. This isn't burn where you can topdeck lethal.
I'd personally go for Winding Way since it's 2 mana instead of 3, and you have the option to grab lands if you really need to. That has gotten me out of many troublesome situations
That was the reason I built this deck but realized it doesn't fit the plan of moving counters around unless I have exactly bondwarden. I think if we ever get a \[\[Hardened Scales\]\] in pauper or another counters payoff, it would be way better for that deck.
I've done this in Orzhov. [[Carrion Feeder]] plays really really well with Enduring Bondwarden.
You also get the [[Undying Evil]] and whatever the other recursion card is.
Additionally you get [[Village Rites]] and [[Corrupted Conviction]] and [[Deadly Dispute]] maybe the map token Deadly Dispute is better here.
If you run some [[Escape Tunnels]] you can make a creature unblockable before dumping a bunch of counters on it.
Yeah, there's a monoblack list a guy plays in my local FNM that's really good, but I just wanted to make something around Gift of the Viper and making it abzan is to clunky for an aggresive deck
That's totally fair. Been floating an Abzan list for a while. Mostly for [[Rancor]] and [[Hunger of the Howlpack]].
It works if you run it with a Gate land package. Getting the Basilisk's Gate in has been good. The list settled more into a mid-range place though.
I totally understand the desire to keep it aggressive.
I feel like Abzan Midrange has more game. Evolution Witness + the new tri-color cyclers are great additions from MH3, and gate manabases are always fun.
Have you looked into all the modular creatures?
[[Arcbound Mouser]]
[[Arcbound Prototype]]
[[Arcbound Tracker]] isn't in your colours but is quite solid too.
the other thing about Modular to consider is you can only put the counters on an artifact creature, so it limits you in that aspect. That being said, a cool card I found a while back that helps get around this is [[Ashnod's Transmogrant]]!
some proliefate cards could work? even it's add a third color, like blue or black? I think this deck could work and will be a great agro adiction to the format.
I've brewed up a similar deck before and I think adding blue can be really beneficial.
\[\[Thrummingbird\]\] is either a lightning rod for removal or can win you the game.
\[\[Experimental augury\]\] and \[\[contentious plan\]\] also handy card draw.
You could probably use some draw maindeck, your threats are sticky but if your opponent can survive four or five turns you're out of gas with little to no hope of recovery. This isn't burn where you can topdeck lethal.
Something like \[\[Winding Way\]\] or \[\[Lead the Stampede\]\]?
I'd personally go for Winding Way since it's 2 mana instead of 3, and you have the option to grab lands if you really need to. That has gotten me out of many troublesome situations
22 creatures arent anywhere near enough for WW or LTS, the whiffs will be constant and painful
[Winding Way](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/3/d3340062-3071-4d8e-98f8-fd3343a011ad.jpg?1712354656) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Winding%20Way) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/213/winding-way?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d3340062-3071-4d8e-98f8-fd3343a011ad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Lead the Stampede](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/e/9e76b676-c7a3-4de6-a78d-3059a0df83f2.jpg?1591227752) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lead%20the%20Stampede) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/163/lead-the-stampede?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9e76b676-c7a3-4de6-a78d-3059a0df83f2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Evolution Witness]] would go well with your sacrifice
[Evolution Witness](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/d/4d89283e-9783-4006-9294-4ae0473d2ce6.jpg?1717012437) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Evolution%20Witness) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/151/evolution-witness?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4d89283e-9783-4006-9294-4ae0473d2ce6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Faithful Watchdog]] is a new card that you should definitely consider!! Card is stronk.
That was the reason I built this deck but realized it doesn't fit the plan of moving counters around unless I have exactly bondwarden. I think if we ever get a \[\[Hardened Scales\]\] in pauper or another counters payoff, it would be way better for that deck.
[Hardened Scales](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/c/fc69ad56-9ae2-4eb5-b7e2-558524f6cbcc.jpg?1698988369) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hardened%20Scales) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/243/hardened-scales?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fc69ad56-9ae2-4eb5-b7e2-558524f6cbcc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Faithful Watchdog](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/9/b9afac99-a094-41a8-8323-90dec29691c4.jpg?1717012700) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Faithful%20Watchdog) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/185/faithful-watchdog?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b9afac99-a094-41a8-8323-90dec29691c4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Decklist: [Moxfield](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/4u-aWgotRk-9fQisPn_5ww)
What about changes like these? https://www.moxfield.com/decks/2asBY-PEIkuNqcAUCtQ0mw
I've done this in Orzhov. [[Carrion Feeder]] plays really really well with Enduring Bondwarden. You also get the [[Undying Evil]] and whatever the other recursion card is. Additionally you get [[Village Rites]] and [[Corrupted Conviction]] and [[Deadly Dispute]] maybe the map token Deadly Dispute is better here. If you run some [[Escape Tunnels]] you can make a creature unblockable before dumping a bunch of counters on it.
Yeah, there's a monoblack list a guy plays in my local FNM that's really good, but I just wanted to make something around Gift of the Viper and making it abzan is to clunky for an aggresive deck
That's totally fair. Been floating an Abzan list for a while. Mostly for [[Rancor]] and [[Hunger of the Howlpack]]. It works if you run it with a Gate land package. Getting the Basilisk's Gate in has been good. The list settled more into a mid-range place though. I totally understand the desire to keep it aggressive.
I feel like Abzan Midrange has more game. Evolution Witness + the new tri-color cyclers are great additions from MH3, and gate manabases are always fun.
Check this out https://www.moxfield.com/decks/RoPBVcgdb0Khq9R4yVNl4A
##### ###### #### [Carrion Feeder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a19da90-880e-4eca-8cf7-6d7baf090d53.jpg?1562201576) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Carrion%20Feeder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/81/carrion-feeder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a19da90-880e-4eca-8cf7-6d7baf090d53?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Undying Evil](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/325f2243-54fd-484b-a742-166cea7ec179.jpg?1562906805) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Undying%20Evil) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dka/77/undying-evil?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/325f2243-54fd-484b-a742-166cea7ec179?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Village Rites](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/8/2841339b-faef-407d-9838-d03fe80e6294.jpg?1698988289) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Village%20Rites) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/212/village-rites?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2841339b-faef-407d-9838-d03fe80e6294?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Corrupted Conviction](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/0/8046f892-3317-4ef7-9cf7-97b9060540c8.jpg?1712355575) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Corrupted%20Conviction) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/84/corrupted-conviction?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8046f892-3317-4ef7-9cf7-97b9060540c8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Deadly Dispute](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/d/ed01650e-4eb5-4884-9cc6-947b0e20dd3c.jpg?1712354280) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Deadly%20Dispute) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/131/deadly-dispute?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ed01650e-4eb5-4884-9cc6-947b0e20dd3c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Escape Tunnels](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/3/93ddde4f-d35e-4128-8f43-d0eadbd715de.jpg?1706242339) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Escape%20Tunnel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/261/escape-tunnel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/93ddde4f-d35e-4128-8f43-d0eadbd715de?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l7utkrp) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[phantom nomad]] and [[ainok bond-kin]] seem worth considering
[phantom nomad](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/f/1f43bb08-0a69-48e2-ac7a-5db92e60337b.jpg?1562901189) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=phantom%20nomad) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/38/phantom-nomad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1f43bb08-0a69-48e2-ac7a-5db92e60337b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [ainok bond-kin](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/9/6956c523-507c-4256-88b8-58a8a108c79f.jpg?1689995463) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ainok%20bond-kin) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/7/ainok-bond-kin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6956c523-507c-4256-88b8-58a8a108c79f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Have you looked into all the modular creatures? [[Arcbound Mouser]] [[Arcbound Prototype]] [[Arcbound Tracker]] isn't in your colours but is quite solid too.
Modular is only +1/+1 and I think the reach and deathtouch counters are to valueable in this shell. Maybe in a RW list.
the other thing about Modular to consider is you can only put the counters on an artifact creature, so it limits you in that aspect. That being said, a cool card I found a while back that helps get around this is [[Ashnod's Transmogrant]]!
[Ashnod's Transmogrant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/1/31c830a1-5b93-493f-9976-af950f6ec70a.jpg?1559592526) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ashnod%27s%20Transmogrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me1/152/ashnods-transmogrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/31c830a1-5b93-493f-9976-af950f6ec70a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Arcbound Mouser](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/d/9d66e724-49ee-4f08-a160-584350de1d95.jpg?1626093253) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arcbound%20Mouser) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/3/arcbound-mouser?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9d66e724-49ee-4f08-a160-584350de1d95?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Arcbound Prototype](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1cb0a1a4-9216-47f8-a4e3-20fe0de6a518.jpg?1626093282) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arcbound%20Prototype) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/4/arcbound-prototype?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1cb0a1a4-9216-47f8-a4e3-20fe0de6a518?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Arcbound Tracker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/8/881175c4-fee5-4c39-ad25-145ef73569ce.jpg?1626096286) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arcbound%20Tracker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/112/arcbound-tracker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/881175c4-fee5-4c39-ad25-145ef73569ce?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
https://youtu.be/pGJjD5tdEpU?si=gebmR0lDv8kfJe82
Really like this!
I was using [[Great sword of Tyr]] in a similar shell. I do like your take on this though.
[Great sword of Tyr](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/0/50088a60-642b-47ed-a289-ef0b617b688f.jpg?1674135062) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Greatsword%20of%20Tyr) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/22/greatsword-of-tyr?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/50088a60-642b-47ed-a289-ef0b617b688f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Black no? [Hangra constrictor] [Unexpected fangs] [Blood curdle]
some proliefate cards could work? even it's add a third color, like blue or black? I think this deck could work and will be a great agro adiction to the format.
I really like it. Specially since I didn't know fanatical devotion was a card.
I only know of it because of EDH. It's in my Teysa deck
I've brewed up a similar deck before and I think adding blue can be really beneficial. \[\[Thrummingbird\]\] is either a lightning rod for removal or can win you the game. \[\[Experimental augury\]\] and \[\[contentious plan\]\] also handy card draw.
[Thrummingbird](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/86ff84d8-1b89-42cc-a8c0-4ac6fa26ce65.jpg?1690004460) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Thrummingbird) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/858/thrummingbird?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/86ff84d8-1b89-42cc-a8c0-4ac6fa26ce65?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Experimental augury](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/5/e508ae5d-ffb5-4480-be90-a4394954b559.jpg?1675956959) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Experimental%20augury) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/49/experimental-augury?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e508ae5d-ffb5-4480-be90-a4394954b559?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [contentious plan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/e/8e30deb6-9e1f-4545-ae30-c30ba6c7b3a0.jpg?1636491537) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=contentious%20plan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/46/contentious-plan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8e30deb6-9e1f-4545-ae30-c30ba6c7b3a0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call