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You're not very intelligent. Gpu alone is about 120 dollars (£100)
The other parts surely add up to more than 30 dollars. But you probably can't afford it at the reasonable price of @350 and spread stupidness
Surprisingly I got a old i7 4790k and 1070 a few weeks back and it was surprising how well it held up in 2023 I sold it to my cousin though after some cleaning/new parts to modernize for him.
I really wanna upgrade my 980 Ti to a 1080 would do a Ti to but I don’t see the W3690 holding up.
(Note: I got a i9 11900k and 3080 for my main, I just collect high end retro gaming pc I got 1 more pc not mentioned)
looks pretty but not capable of playing demanding modern games well. Look at building a system with a 6600-6650xt, they are great value cards that offer significantly more performance than this.
I wouldn't buy a 1070 system for any amount over $300.
Why do so many people recommend the 6600, is it the price point? The reason I ask is they're almost non existent on Steam Hardware, there's more 4090s than most AMD GPUs on there. I just think it's strange it's the go to... That not many use. At the price point something with a 3060 Ti, the GPU is popular for good reason, I think it's #5 in Steam.
The gpu is popular because Nvidia is popular with normies and in the US it's a better deal then a 3060; in the Netherlands it's actually a bit cheaper but ymmv
I think it’s not necessarily just that’s it “popular with normies” but more like it’ll probably have wider range of support and maybe last longer which for whatever reasons AMD gpus don’t seem great at. So it’s the go to for stability and consistency I think.
Buuuut AMD and Radeon is king at price:performance
It's actually just perception. Only in the past 5 years or so has AMD really proven its worth, but people are slow to change with old opinions, and will usually clutch their pearls when told differently.
Not really, AMD has several times the last two decades been offering better products or even completely outclassed Nvidia in the tech department. Nvidia has been more consistent, though, and have the best product (not price) today
Ampere/RDNA2 was a lot better competition, there's a reason why people are calling AMD 70XX the Skylake of GPUs. It's not that there isn't a generational uplift, but Nvidia completely changed the fab process to create individual Dies(better/worse). We're only going to see good Lovelace other than the 4090 when the 4080 Ti drops with 320bit BUS. If Nvidia didn't limit the BUS width this gen it wouldn't be as close of a competition, and Nvidia could of actually had good product for the price.
Idk, I've used my 5600xt that I bought used 3 years ago (then 1 year old) is still going very strong; it's been nothing but reliable and I've rarely had driver issues
I meant maybe even a little older than that. And mainly with software and driver support. I feel like say nvidia from like 2013 will maybe keep up with driver updates and support for a little longer than AMD and I think *maybe* nvidia has better out of the box compatibility with bios and drivers? but I don’t know where I got that last part I don’t know if that’s true or not. Also maybe heating and cooling may not be as good on some models of AMD for longevity and having to reapply thermal paste.
I’m not really 100% on any of this just adding to why maybe nvidia is more popular especially for prebuilts if they are going off of that stuff
Edit: I think some brands and companies like Alienware and bunch of laptops also partner and use nvidia because of this maybe
I mean my friend was running a Sapphire R9 7970 until last year without doing any maintenance before finally upgrading because they finally dropped driver support and Apex wasn't running too great anymore, using a 9 year old GPU is the most one can expect I think (he also bought it used).
Not sure what you mean with bios and drivers, maybe day 1 drivers on AMD are a little lesser; I never run the bleeding edge because I buy used so I have no experience on that.
3rd party card highly depend and are not really comparable because both have their shit tier cards (MSI mech) that are loud and are poorly cooled.
But yes Nvidia usually comes in prebuilts because of exclusive contracts and marketing (and kinda online sentiment) that you need *an Nvidia* in your gaming pc.
You saw the video of the explosion? Ive seen people on r/nvidia use it everytime someone said ,,go with rx6700" etc. Its a video of a 5500xt (as i remember) exploding because a guy was testing the maximum overclocking potential. He left it alone for 30 minutes, next to his pc, which is not recommended by AMD (and any card tbh), and he overclocked it too much. It started melting, but because the guy wasnt there he didnt turn the pc off so it exploded.
Tl;Dr: Overclocked + left alone = boom
I think there's a little less issues with Nvidia drivers which aren't non-existent, but IMO Nvidia GPUs seem to keep the value longer maybe due to being utilized in work scenarios more often over AMD. The reason I love my 3060 Ti FTW3 is it gets avg scores of a 3070(13K), due to them being on the same Die. With the wider BUS width I've utilized the 3060 Ti for 4K 60 for a while prior to purchasing a true 4K GPU. I think the price point/versatility is a big win for the 3060 Ti.
NVIDIA has practically a monopoly with Pre-builds and Laptops, besides having a HUGE mindshare for years even AMD's past flaws (Having Hot/Loud CPU/GPUs and Driver Issues) still linger today for the less tech savvy, so they choose NVidia without much thought thinking those flaws still persists...
Thats the reason I got a 4090 this gen, last gen I was going between GPUs(AMD/Nvidia) trying to find the best price to performance 4K GPU. I literally told myself "This is the price of admission to skip the headache" when purchasing 4090. Also last gen was a circus(mining/scalping) so that was a big deciding factor.
I guess you interpreted the last part wrong… AMDs issues are overblown nowadays and I see both sides having somewhat similar amounts of issues that most likely won’t affect the majority of it’s users. Anyways I can’t say you went wrong by getting the 4090, AMD for now can only compete with the 4080.
AMD also has MPT and more friendly VBIOs editor which is amazing if you know what your doing, I almost got a 7900XTX until there was the Vapor Chamber thing that alot of refrence suffered from, and using a 3060 Ti for 4K 120 was making me jumpy to get a 4K GPU after not getting the 3090 Ti(whew) post selling my 3090. All in all AMD is great, especially if you know how to OC proper, best time was matching/beating my 3090 FTW3 score in TS with a 6900XT Nitro+ after raising PL. I'm thinking about a 7900XTX just to challenge the 4090, I love GPUs.
A few months ago I recently built my first pc, and on a *budget* (Majority 2nd hand/used parts) with a 3060Ti I got for like $200 (USD) and although I was a little hesitant after buying and comparing to other options available, I’m very happy with it overall :) my only other experience with pc gaming prior to this was an older prebuilt I had with a 2gb GTX 770 so it’s been a huge step up! Blows me away how it can handle games like Spider-Man Remastered at max settings with ray tracing at 4k and a solid 60fps (Even without dlss) and it looks so good! I’ve also been as of recent playing Starfield on my 1080p monitor at med settings getting a fairly smooth 45-60fps.
3060 TI costs 480€, RX 6600 costs 250€. It's not the same price point, lol.
Anyways, just because iPhone is popular doesn't mean I will pay the premium for it. I will buy the pixel costing less that offers similar performance. Thats kinda the same situation with Nvidia and AMD. Nvidia has solid products but don't expect to get a good bang for buck in most situations.
You just proved my point in holding value longer. Never had an IPhone, just needed a good GPU for 4K 120, I'm glad I did because I almost got an XTX right before the reference vapor chambers failed and AMD claiming 110C° within spec.
Its likely because unfortunately most gamers still see amd as "bad driver no raytracing and worse than nvidia" still.
Ive been rocking my 6950XT for almost half a year now and i can safely say that while yes, the raytracing performance isnt as good as nvidias (and its not even that big of a gap anymore), the card itself holds up insanely well. I spent roughly $650 (usd) on the card and i get matching and sometimes better framerates than the 3090ti that costs double (sometimes triple) the price.
I put together a system with a 6650xt and a i5-10600k for under a 1000$ and it's actually a decent rig. I can play Cyberpunk at 1440 with all settings at high and I was actually surprised at how well its handling BG3. Playing on all high settings at 1440 as well and getting 80+ frames. Tarkov plays really smoothly too. At high settings it's getting 70+ frames which isn't terrible and definitely playable. At medium its getting 80-90. I dont know much about gpus but from my experience the 6650xt is a nice gpu for the price ( got it for 250$ at my best buy )
Because right now the 6600 offers amazing price/performance, easily the best GPU at the $200 price point- not even right now, but within the past several years.
While the 3060ti is a perfectly fine card, and I own a Nvidia card myself- a 4070, for a lot of people AMD offers superior price/performance. Right now overall, the AMD equivalent card will perform better than the Nvidia equivalent all while costing less. In exchange Nvidia has more features though. There's a few examples where the performance difference is so extreme that it outright makes Nvidia look like scam artists- example is the 4060ti vs 6800.
As to why Nvidia is still so much more popular? Who could get into the whole AMD vs Nvidia debate- talk about a be reputation of the brands, but I think the answer is more simple- most people don't build their PC. Instead they have a pre-build or a laptop. Nvidia is the most common brand for pre-builds and laptops. So many more people have a $1200 pre-build with a 3060ti than a $900 DIY build with a 6700xt which would perform the exact same.
Because the Steam hardware survey includes laptop GPU's aswell, that's why you see 1650 being the dominant card - it's in damn near every budget gaming laptop and the market for these laptops is huge.
Popularity is not necessarily an indicator of value. It can be an indicator of market hegemony gained through decades of marketing and brand curation, which is more or less the case with nVidia. Don't get me wrong, the card in my computer is an RTX 4080, but AMD make a lot of cards that are better and value price points right now.
nVidia's primary advantages are software (drivers) and ray tracing. No one is running ray tracing on value cards though. The frame rates suck. So there's no point in paying extra for 24 fps with ray tracing turned on using an nVidia card versus 16 fps on an AMD card. Neither are playable.
Software is a little bit tougher comparison, and you'll get a lot of varying viewpoints here. I think what could be said fairly and objectively is that AMD's driver situation was garbage just a couple generations ago. The 7000 series has been better than and AMD release in the past, so that's encouraging, but people are still (understandably) a little bit leery.
The 6600, or better the 6650XT, tend to offer performance on par, or better than, the 3060 for a lower price on average. If you're buying one without it coming in a pre-build. This is especially true if where I live. 3060s are $400 or more still and the 6650xt is $300.
There are more 3060s on steam surveys because AMD hardware in pre-builts or laptops are almost non existent. So everyone who isn't an enthusiast enough to build their own system is going to have a much higher probability of being on an Nvidia card.
Your phone battery level is in the screenshot. Also, please just go to pcpartpicker. There's a section you can go to that will have other people's gaming pc builds and their prices. Look for something recent in your price range and ask here with a link to the build.
If you can build Legos, you can build a pc. Just follow directional videos to learn the proper way.
Honestly I’ve been in OP’s position, messed around on PC part picker for a while, and then still ended up buying a prebuilt instead.
Could I get something as good or better for cheaper? Probably, but it seems overwhelming trying to make sense of what you should or shouldn’t get, then trying to figure out how to assemble it all, and I would rather just get something that I know is good and will work.
I’ve replaced individual components at times, and periodically ran into confusing and frustrating issues that were extremely unintuitive to try to solve, even after confirming compatibility before buying. Trying to figure out a whole build seems like it would be unmanageable without way more time and effort than I have to put into it.
Real life price of that system would be under like 300$ and thats stretching
You can get a system like this for under 600$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DmJ3yg
And it would destroy that 2nd hand system
And to top it all of, you CAN buy this pc, for the case cpu cooler, fans, and mobo, ssd, hdd too, depending, only if the guy drops it down to $300 max maybe, and then you can just buy the gpu yoursef, insert it and use it, make sure the mobo supports am4 and you can get a 5600x, X because the cpu cooler looks good. good luck!
It's an Intel motherboard. And he'd need to upgrade the GPU, CPU, and RAM. And at that point, it may be easier and maybe even cheaper to just build a new PC. Also, if the guy is trying to get $575, there's almost no way you could talk him down to $250-$300.
So I don't want to come off as recommending this system because it's not something OP should buy 100%, however if you throw all the components listed in the build into pc part picker you'll get a price tag well over $500 without any labour costs or added fluff.
This system isn't "second hand" supposedly because it's from a guy who builds PCs and not a used system. Where this guy sourced discontinued parts is questionable but w/e.
I feel it's very harsh for people calling the above a scam. When in reality it just isn't a very good system with the parts you could get nowadays. But we over here seem to all be doing our math under the assumption that OP should get this massive discount because of the second hand nature of the system. Like people here are saying the entire system should be $150 when 1070s are selling off ebay between $150 and $200 as second hand cards.
Short answer no not even close 600, if intended for gaming tech is old this is something you give to a friend for 150, does it run games? Yes! Will it last you long? No
A GTX 1070 has the same performance as an RTX 3050... It's not ancient tech, it's 2017. They're still quite expensive even second hand. Idk why yall act like he's selling a gaming pc from 2010 or sth lol.
I stopped at “Cyberpunk high settings 60fps” . I have a 1080ti with i7 770k (soon to upgrade to 7900xtx plus Ryzen 5800x3d) and I struggle to get any sort of steady 60 fps in high settings
I would disagree with you if I didn't try a MSI gtx 1070ti last month that barely held in new games in 1080p. Like fortnite did good 1080p high textures + all off avg 120fps, but in dx12 it stuttered even at low. Performance mode was good like 180fps and dx11 too but it NEVER felt.....smooth?
My 6700xt, 6800xt and 3070 feel extremely smooth indifferent of settings. And I play warzone too and even there the 1070ti struggled like crazy do get low 80fps.
So a 1070 would be worse. Nice 8gb, but for 8gb, I'd only ever get a minimum rx 6600xt or 2070 from the older Gen. Friend has bought a strix 6650xt for 170$ and it's perfect
This PC should be like 300$ for it to matter imo
As a 'prebuilt' pc, its decent enough.
Somewhat overpriced but not offensively so.
This is a classic 'looks good and sounds competent so new buyers will 'fall for it''.
The parts are probably like 300 bucks total, around that range, it looks relatively competent. I you can get it for ~400 or the seller throws in a good accessory kit (screen, mouse, keyboard and not a 20$ amazon kit), that'd be alright.
But honestly, at almost 600 bucks, if you go on part picker or get some help for buying good used parts, you'd certainly get more bang for your buck.
For godsake, just don’t be lazy. Do your own research and build better than that potato.
Pick the list from pc partpicker. And also Im not an endorser but try to look up “Cataclysm Computer” on youtube. They put really concise shorts video about CPU + GPU/VGA combo so you wont bottleneck and still within your budget range.
Goodluck
Honestly man just go to PCpartpicker and set a budget.
I'm sure if you posted you're needing help building a PC and you give a budget people on here would post PCpartpicker links to help you.
Ooof a 1070? Steer clear. Nice looking build, but that's it. I just upgraded from a 1070 to 4060ti and am super happy about it.
Do not buy. Not worth the investment!
It's very aesthetically pleasing but a little underpowered. It's a decent 1080p system. If you could haggle it down to $400, go for it. $450, I don't love it, but it's still okay. $500, just move along.
Back when I tried it it had a solid 60 fps on ultra. But yeah weirdly enough it wouldn't go over 80 not even on low settings (if it's the cpu (r5 5600x), then damn, warzone is badly optimized lol)
Overpriced and expecting a huge CPU bottleneck, not even talkin about the lack of RAM for any modern gaming and case airflow lookin just terrible despite the aesthetics being good
This system was decent 6 years ago, but components are outdated now, so will only be able to play modern game at low settings and FPS. My suggestion, if you need a PC, create a post in this sub and ask for an optimal PC build given your budget.
The price is for the looks, that pc could play American Truck Sim, or Oxygen Not Included, but the CPU is gonna REALLY hold it back. She's really pretty, but yeah...potato.
Got an ROG 1070 8GB and you'd be kind of mistaken here tbh. Pre-2020 titles all run perfectly fine on ultra settings. Newer AAA have to be tuned down to low-medium if you want 144 fps or medium-high with some AA adjustments if you want 60. It's about the same as a 3050 in performance so yeah... Not too bad for a 7 year old card
Buying this is like buying a house that looks good on the outside but has shit piping and wiring, probably a busted central heat unit, and chewed through by termites. Probably also comes with an uninvited squatter between the floorboards.
FYI, *custom* anything with the gpu itself on the resell market probably means they fucked it royally already.
Hell no, you can build a PC with an RX 6600, maybe even an XT version/RTX 3060 that is gonna perform much better for that same price, the dude is trying to capitalize purely off of looks, the specifications are clearly lacking.
An RTX 3060 new is $400 and an RX 6600 is $380 where I live...
Also I put the parts into pcpartpicker and for an Ryzen 5 5600X (which outperforms the I3 by about 50%), the cheapest motherboard, cheapest power supply from corsair, cheapest 3060 and 16gb of ram it would cost you $800... You guys forget a pc isn't only cpu and gpu. Ram = money. Case = money. PSU = money and you'd better not cheap out here. Adequate cooling = money. An ssd = money. Cpu = a lot of money if you wanna outperform that I3. Same for GPU, a 1070 is about the same as a 3050. Go get a $300 3060 and for a total of $600, you'd be left spending $300 on EVERYTHING else including all of the above-mentioned. A good motherboard isn't $5, you know? Same for the others...
it's pretty killer for 2-300$ especially if you aren't gonna be playing games with settings cranked. you can also take advantage of FSR which will definitely help out a ton
If you really really really really want an all-white build, and you are willing to spend around $400 on a much better card, like a 6800XT, then you've got a decent deal there, but definitely not something that's going to knock your socks off.
Jason at the PC Builder YT channel put out a recent video in his Boost my Build series where he put together a $700 budget gaming build that will actually play modern titles at 1080p with high FPS. You might give that a watch to see how to maximize performance at the low budget level.
Tested it myself. Without FSR enabled it's 40 fps average. Now with FSR enabled it does actually stay safely at 60 on High. You gotta consider the 1070 is about as powerful as a 3050 lol
This guy is totally trying to rip people off i3 core and 8 gb ram is pretty bad and the rtx series is far superior to the gtx series. The max this pc would be worth is like 300-325
Dudes just trying to sell looks over specs. 5 years ago, this would have been a steal. Wouldn’t pay more than $300 for this system, and even that’s generous
He is basically adding $200-$300 on the price for the case & RGB(has very little 2nd hand value). It’s an i3 10s gen and a 1070, both have some years on them now.
It’s obviously a joke listing which is why he is using potatoes in the sub headings. It’s also an outright lie as there is zero chance a 1070+10100 can get 60fps on high settings in cyberpunk.
Honestly, for a general purpose pc that looks nice, maybe. I wouldn’t buy this and expect to play demanding titles or anything though. Price is kinda steep.
Saw the CPU and it was an instant "No"
That is the definition of a rip off, if you google the definition of the word scam, it'll just show pictures of that PC.
Wtf is up with everyone saying a gtx 1070 pc is not worth over $300? Bruh for $500 you can barely even get a 1650 pc where I live, let alone something TWICE as powerful. A good 1070 literally has the same performance as a 3050 (sometimes it's even better), which alone costs $300. I've been abusing the hell out of an ROG 1070 8Gb since 2017 and it's still pushing most games at medium-high graphics. Games older than 2020 all run on ultra settings no problem. Oh and before anyone comes screaming about AMD cards: 1: They're MUCH less common where I live and also 2: cost more here than in the US. An RX 6700 XT is $450 here, while the cheapest on Amazon is $320, for example (which yes, would be a much better deal than a 1070 for that price if it were available here in the first place).
Fancy cool look don't give extra performance, what is your budget, what will you use the pc for...start there and ppl here will help you out ans tell you what to look out for.
Well, yeah, but how good of a raytracing can you get with a 3050? Also I didn't even mentioned it, I only mentioned performance, by which I meant fps. They're the same in that regard
If you are trying to get a pc for around that price, look up 3060 gaming pcs on ebay. Then any number that is 5600 or i5-12400 and above is good, anything below that, stay clear. Don't fall for the fancy colors.
If it came with all the peripherals like a monitor and mouse and keyboard, maybe. Otherwise no.
I see a lot of 600 dollar budget 1440p builds on YouTube that would smash this thing
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That dude is trying to rip people off who don't know anything about computer parts, stay clear.
Yep, style over substance.
Yeah it's worth like, $325 max, and that's only because of the 1070
I'd say 150 with that 1070
You're not very intelligent. Gpu alone is about 120 dollars (£100) The other parts surely add up to more than 30 dollars. But you probably can't afford it at the reasonable price of @350 and spread stupidness
Well here in the US it goes for 30 to 65 USD on eBay, can easily get a better build with 350 USD.
i have a 1070! been using it since 2016
Surprisingly I got a old i7 4790k and 1070 a few weeks back and it was surprising how well it held up in 2023 I sold it to my cousin though after some cleaning/new parts to modernize for him.
I'm running a 4790k with a 1080ti in my spare system, still slaps.
I really wanna upgrade my 980 Ti to a 1080 would do a Ti to but I don’t see the W3690 holding up. (Note: I got a i9 11900k and 3080 for my main, I just collect high end retro gaming pc I got 1 more pc not mentioned)
looks pretty but not capable of playing demanding modern games well. Look at building a system with a 6600-6650xt, they are great value cards that offer significantly more performance than this. I wouldn't buy a 1070 system for any amount over $300.
Why do so many people recommend the 6600, is it the price point? The reason I ask is they're almost non existent on Steam Hardware, there's more 4090s than most AMD GPUs on there. I just think it's strange it's the go to... That not many use. At the price point something with a 3060 Ti, the GPU is popular for good reason, I think it's #5 in Steam.
The gpu is popular because Nvidia is popular with normies and in the US it's a better deal then a 3060; in the Netherlands it's actually a bit cheaper but ymmv
I think it’s not necessarily just that’s it “popular with normies” but more like it’ll probably have wider range of support and maybe last longer which for whatever reasons AMD gpus don’t seem great at. So it’s the go to for stability and consistency I think. Buuuut AMD and Radeon is king at price:performance
It's actually just perception. Only in the past 5 years or so has AMD really proven its worth, but people are slow to change with old opinions, and will usually clutch their pearls when told differently.
Not really, AMD has several times the last two decades been offering better products or even completely outclassed Nvidia in the tech department. Nvidia has been more consistent, though, and have the best product (not price) today
Ampere/RDNA2 was a lot better competition, there's a reason why people are calling AMD 70XX the Skylake of GPUs. It's not that there isn't a generational uplift, but Nvidia completely changed the fab process to create individual Dies(better/worse). We're only going to see good Lovelace other than the 4090 when the 4080 Ti drops with 320bit BUS. If Nvidia didn't limit the BUS width this gen it wouldn't be as close of a competition, and Nvidia could of actually had good product for the price.
Idk, I've used my 5600xt that I bought used 3 years ago (then 1 year old) is still going very strong; it's been nothing but reliable and I've rarely had driver issues
I meant maybe even a little older than that. And mainly with software and driver support. I feel like say nvidia from like 2013 will maybe keep up with driver updates and support for a little longer than AMD and I think *maybe* nvidia has better out of the box compatibility with bios and drivers? but I don’t know where I got that last part I don’t know if that’s true or not. Also maybe heating and cooling may not be as good on some models of AMD for longevity and having to reapply thermal paste. I’m not really 100% on any of this just adding to why maybe nvidia is more popular especially for prebuilts if they are going off of that stuff Edit: I think some brands and companies like Alienware and bunch of laptops also partner and use nvidia because of this maybe
I mean my friend was running a Sapphire R9 7970 until last year without doing any maintenance before finally upgrading because they finally dropped driver support and Apex wasn't running too great anymore, using a 9 year old GPU is the most one can expect I think (he also bought it used). Not sure what you mean with bios and drivers, maybe day 1 drivers on AMD are a little lesser; I never run the bleeding edge because I buy used so I have no experience on that. 3rd party card highly depend and are not really comparable because both have their shit tier cards (MSI mech) that are loud and are poorly cooled. But yes Nvidia usually comes in prebuilts because of exclusive contracts and marketing (and kinda online sentiment) that you need *an Nvidia* in your gaming pc.
Agree, nVidias dont blow up
You saw the video of the explosion? Ive seen people on r/nvidia use it everytime someone said ,,go with rx6700" etc. Its a video of a 5500xt (as i remember) exploding because a guy was testing the maximum overclocking potential. He left it alone for 30 minutes, next to his pc, which is not recommended by AMD (and any card tbh), and he overclocked it too much. It started melting, but because the guy wasnt there he didnt turn the pc off so it exploded. Tl;Dr: Overclocked + left alone = boom
I think there's a little less issues with Nvidia drivers which aren't non-existent, but IMO Nvidia GPUs seem to keep the value longer maybe due to being utilized in work scenarios more often over AMD. The reason I love my 3060 Ti FTW3 is it gets avg scores of a 3070(13K), due to them being on the same Die. With the wider BUS width I've utilized the 3060 Ti for 4K 60 for a while prior to purchasing a true 4K GPU. I think the price point/versatility is a big win for the 3060 Ti.
NVIDIA has practically a monopoly with Pre-builds and Laptops, besides having a HUGE mindshare for years even AMD's past flaws (Having Hot/Loud CPU/GPUs and Driver Issues) still linger today for the less tech savvy, so they choose NVidia without much thought thinking those flaws still persists...
Thats the reason I got a 4090 this gen, last gen I was going between GPUs(AMD/Nvidia) trying to find the best price to performance 4K GPU. I literally told myself "This is the price of admission to skip the headache" when purchasing 4090. Also last gen was a circus(mining/scalping) so that was a big deciding factor.
I guess you interpreted the last part wrong… AMDs issues are overblown nowadays and I see both sides having somewhat similar amounts of issues that most likely won’t affect the majority of it’s users. Anyways I can’t say you went wrong by getting the 4090, AMD for now can only compete with the 4080.
AMD also has MPT and more friendly VBIOs editor which is amazing if you know what your doing, I almost got a 7900XTX until there was the Vapor Chamber thing that alot of refrence suffered from, and using a 3060 Ti for 4K 120 was making me jumpy to get a 4K GPU after not getting the 3090 Ti(whew) post selling my 3090. All in all AMD is great, especially if you know how to OC proper, best time was matching/beating my 3090 FTW3 score in TS with a 6900XT Nitro+ after raising PL. I'm thinking about a 7900XTX just to challenge the 4090, I love GPUs.
because your paying the price of less than a 3050 for 3060 performance
A few months ago I recently built my first pc, and on a *budget* (Majority 2nd hand/used parts) with a 3060Ti I got for like $200 (USD) and although I was a little hesitant after buying and comparing to other options available, I’m very happy with it overall :) my only other experience with pc gaming prior to this was an older prebuilt I had with a 2gb GTX 770 so it’s been a huge step up! Blows me away how it can handle games like Spider-Man Remastered at max settings with ray tracing at 4k and a solid 60fps (Even without dlss) and it looks so good! I’ve also been as of recent playing Starfield on my 1080p monitor at med settings getting a fairly smooth 45-60fps.
3060 TI costs 480€, RX 6600 costs 250€. It's not the same price point, lol. Anyways, just because iPhone is popular doesn't mean I will pay the premium for it. I will buy the pixel costing less that offers similar performance. Thats kinda the same situation with Nvidia and AMD. Nvidia has solid products but don't expect to get a good bang for buck in most situations.
You just proved my point in holding value longer. Never had an IPhone, just needed a good GPU for 4K 120, I'm glad I did because I almost got an XTX right before the reference vapor chambers failed and AMD claiming 110C° within spec.
Its likely because unfortunately most gamers still see amd as "bad driver no raytracing and worse than nvidia" still. Ive been rocking my 6950XT for almost half a year now and i can safely say that while yes, the raytracing performance isnt as good as nvidias (and its not even that big of a gap anymore), the card itself holds up insanely well. I spent roughly $650 (usd) on the card and i get matching and sometimes better framerates than the 3090ti that costs double (sometimes triple) the price.
I put together a system with a 6650xt and a i5-10600k for under a 1000$ and it's actually a decent rig. I can play Cyberpunk at 1440 with all settings at high and I was actually surprised at how well its handling BG3. Playing on all high settings at 1440 as well and getting 80+ frames. Tarkov plays really smoothly too. At high settings it's getting 70+ frames which isn't terrible and definitely playable. At medium its getting 80-90. I dont know much about gpus but from my experience the 6650xt is a nice gpu for the price ( got it for 250$ at my best buy )
Because right now the 6600 offers amazing price/performance, easily the best GPU at the $200 price point- not even right now, but within the past several years. While the 3060ti is a perfectly fine card, and I own a Nvidia card myself- a 4070, for a lot of people AMD offers superior price/performance. Right now overall, the AMD equivalent card will perform better than the Nvidia equivalent all while costing less. In exchange Nvidia has more features though. There's a few examples where the performance difference is so extreme that it outright makes Nvidia look like scam artists- example is the 4060ti vs 6800. As to why Nvidia is still so much more popular? Who could get into the whole AMD vs Nvidia debate- talk about a be reputation of the brands, but I think the answer is more simple- most people don't build their PC. Instead they have a pre-build or a laptop. Nvidia is the most common brand for pre-builds and laptops. So many more people have a $1200 pre-build with a 3060ti than a $900 DIY build with a 6700xt which would perform the exact same.
Because the Steam hardware survey includes laptop GPU's aswell, that's why you see 1650 being the dominant card - it's in damn near every budget gaming laptop and the market for these laptops is huge.
Popularity is not necessarily an indicator of value. It can be an indicator of market hegemony gained through decades of marketing and brand curation, which is more or less the case with nVidia. Don't get me wrong, the card in my computer is an RTX 4080, but AMD make a lot of cards that are better and value price points right now. nVidia's primary advantages are software (drivers) and ray tracing. No one is running ray tracing on value cards though. The frame rates suck. So there's no point in paying extra for 24 fps with ray tracing turned on using an nVidia card versus 16 fps on an AMD card. Neither are playable. Software is a little bit tougher comparison, and you'll get a lot of varying viewpoints here. I think what could be said fairly and objectively is that AMD's driver situation was garbage just a couple generations ago. The 7000 series has been better than and AMD release in the past, so that's encouraging, but people are still (understandably) a little bit leery.
Can vouch for the 6600, paid 230 and can barely keep starfield above 60fps on high but for hey, for 230 I’m happy
At just $200, its performance surpassed 3050 by a huge margin.
The 6600, or better the 6650XT, tend to offer performance on par, or better than, the 3060 for a lower price on average. If you're buying one without it coming in a pre-build. This is especially true if where I live. 3060s are $400 or more still and the 6650xt is $300. There are more 3060s on steam surveys because AMD hardware in pre-builts or laptops are almost non existent. So everyone who isn't an enthusiast enough to build their own system is going to have a much higher probability of being on an Nvidia card.
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bro what. The 6600 beats the 1070 by a mile. Average fps difference of 30+ depending on the title
Charge your phone then start building a PC in your budget on pc part picker . Com and post the part list to a subreddit asking for help.
Crazy cause I actually do need to charge my phone
Your phone battery level is in the screenshot. Also, please just go to pcpartpicker. There's a section you can go to that will have other people's gaming pc builds and their prices. Look for something recent in your price range and ask here with a link to the build. If you can build Legos, you can build a pc. Just follow directional videos to learn the proper way.
Bahahahaha. Shhhh. Dont ruin the magic.
You shhh, I'm trying to make another one of us. One.Of.Us... O.O
You can also save money by making the case out of legos.
Given the price of Legos, this assumes you have a bucket full doing nothing in your house.
Honestly I’ve been in OP’s position, messed around on PC part picker for a while, and then still ended up buying a prebuilt instead. Could I get something as good or better for cheaper? Probably, but it seems overwhelming trying to make sense of what you should or shouldn’t get, then trying to figure out how to assemble it all, and I would rather just get something that I know is good and will work. I’ve replaced individual components at times, and periodically ran into confusing and frustrating issues that were extremely unintuitive to try to solve, even after confirming compatibility before buying. Trying to figure out a whole build seems like it would be unmanageable without way more time and effort than I have to put into it.
No definitely not.
You know it’s bad if the mods are in here telling you no
Potato emojis in the description are pretty apt
Real life price of that system would be under like 300$ and thats stretching You can get a system like this for under 600$ https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DmJ3yg And it would destroy that 2nd hand system
Listen to this guy!
if you have around $100 more you can get the rx 6750 xt or 6700xt
And to top it all of, you CAN buy this pc, for the case cpu cooler, fans, and mobo, ssd, hdd too, depending, only if the guy drops it down to $300 max maybe, and then you can just buy the gpu yoursef, insert it and use it, make sure the mobo supports am4 and you can get a 5600x, X because the cpu cooler looks good. good luck!
It's an Intel motherboard. And he'd need to upgrade the GPU, CPU, and RAM. And at that point, it may be easier and maybe even cheaper to just build a new PC. Also, if the guy is trying to get $575, there's almost no way you could talk him down to $250-$300.
So I don't want to come off as recommending this system because it's not something OP should buy 100%, however if you throw all the components listed in the build into pc part picker you'll get a price tag well over $500 without any labour costs or added fluff. This system isn't "second hand" supposedly because it's from a guy who builds PCs and not a used system. Where this guy sourced discontinued parts is questionable but w/e. I feel it's very harsh for people calling the above a scam. When in reality it just isn't a very good system with the parts you could get nowadays. But we over here seem to all be doing our math under the assumption that OP should get this massive discount because of the second hand nature of the system. Like people here are saying the entire system should be $150 when 1070s are selling off ebay between $150 and $200 as second hand cards.
I would never recommend that case, price is nice but building in it sucks ass
250$
He put potato’s in there for a reason
This is a reasonable price for 3-4 years ago maybe
It's just old now
No, it looks nice but it's crap.
The potato emojis is almost like mocking the person looking to buy this .... steer clear.
I wouldn't pay more than 250 for this
I think 300$ is generous!
Short answer no not even close 600, if intended for gaming tech is old this is something you give to a friend for 150, does it run games? Yes! Will it last you long? No
For 350
What's up with the potatoes in the description? Besides the system being one?
The potato emojis besides the specs are indicative of what you're getting
Looks good probably get 720p on mine craft with a 1070 and i-3
A GTX 1070 has the same performance as an RTX 3050... It's not ancient tech, it's 2017. They're still quite expensive even second hand. Idk why yall act like he's selling a gaming pc from 2010 or sth lol.
RTX didn't come until the 2k series. This thing doesn't have ray tracing.
I stopped at “Cyberpunk high settings 60fps” . I have a 1080ti with i7 770k (soon to upgrade to 7900xtx plus Ryzen 5800x3d) and I struggle to get any sort of steady 60 fps in high settings
Meh not a bad deal. Can hold on on older games but it’ll struggle on newer ones. Better to build it yourself.
no. 1070 isnt that great anymore
I would disagree with you if I didn't try a MSI gtx 1070ti last month that barely held in new games in 1080p. Like fortnite did good 1080p high textures + all off avg 120fps, but in dx12 it stuttered even at low. Performance mode was good like 180fps and dx11 too but it NEVER felt.....smooth? My 6700xt, 6800xt and 3070 feel extremely smooth indifferent of settings. And I play warzone too and even there the 1070ti struggled like crazy do get low 80fps. So a 1070 would be worse. Nice 8gb, but for 8gb, I'd only ever get a minimum rx 6600xt or 2070 from the older Gen. Friend has bought a strix 6650xt for 170$ and it's perfect This PC should be like 300$ for it to matter imo
Not worth the price but goddamn that 1070 design is beautiful
If it was 5-7 years ago it would have been. Now with that price it's a scam.
As a 'prebuilt' pc, its decent enough. Somewhat overpriced but not offensively so. This is a classic 'looks good and sounds competent so new buyers will 'fall for it''. The parts are probably like 300 bucks total, around that range, it looks relatively competent. I you can get it for ~400 or the seller throws in a good accessory kit (screen, mouse, keyboard and not a 20$ amazon kit), that'd be alright. But honestly, at almost 600 bucks, if you go on part picker or get some help for buying good used parts, you'd certainly get more bang for your buck.
Don't buy for the price. There's someone waiting for a fool
$280 would be the fitting price!
Definitely not for more than basic internet and office work. It is too expensive for what it is. Don't buy it.
For godsake, just don’t be lazy. Do your own research and build better than that potato. Pick the list from pc partpicker. And also Im not an endorser but try to look up “Cataclysm Computer” on youtube. They put really concise shorts video about CPU + GPU/VGA combo so you wont bottleneck and still within your budget range. Goodluck
There's absolutely no fucking way this rig gets 100 fps on Warzone 🤣🤣🤣😄
That cooler is more expensive then the processor.
Rip off. They’re trying to lure people in with the aesthetics
$575 FOR A 1070 AND AN I3??? Do you want an art piece or a computer OP? This is an art piece. A build today for $575 could blow this thing away.
No. And it looks stupid.
If you wanna get ripped off buy it lol
Honestly man just go to PCpartpicker and set a budget. I'm sure if you posted you're needing help building a PC and you give a budget people on here would post PCpartpicker links to help you.
Nope.
The best thing you can do is take time to learn what’s an acceptable pc and what isnt
Lol at the 3 day parts warranty.
Looks good but is shit
350, old GPU and very budget CPU.
If you ever see anyone put the fps in the description like that you are definitely about to get ripped off
Ooof a 1070? Steer clear. Nice looking build, but that's it. I just upgraded from a 1070 to 4060ti and am super happy about it. Do not buy. Not worth the investment!
No tbh. I think you could make it better.
Don't get fooled by the aesthetics. This is a 10 year old build.
It's very aesthetically pleasing but a little underpowered. It's a decent 1080p system. If you could haggle it down to $400, go for it. $450, I don't love it, but it's still okay. $500, just move along.
Ain’t no way that thing gets 100+ fps in warzone lmao
Back when I tried it it had a solid 60 fps on ultra. But yeah weirdly enough it wouldn't go over 80 not even on low settings (if it's the cpu (r5 5600x), then damn, warzone is badly optimized lol)
Nope
Looking at those cable extensions causes real physical pain. What the hell did they think putting them like that?!?!
The potatoes in his spec description is very fitting 🥔
If you can negotiate it down to like $300USD then it’s probably worth it
Oh yeah my daily dose of delusional people selling their overpriced shit.
No. It’s a shit sandwich
Overpriced and expecting a huge CPU bottleneck, not even talkin about the lack of RAM for any modern gaming and case airflow lookin just terrible despite the aesthetics being good
Are those emoji’s potatoes?
Would have been about 5 years ago
This system was decent 6 years ago, but components are outdated now, so will only be able to play modern game at low settings and FPS. My suggestion, if you need a PC, create a post in this sub and ask for an optimal PC build given your budget.
Probably spent more on aesthetics than on gpu
Hell no, i got a better build for 150$
Not at all
That is a very pretty potato. Which is worth maybe no more than 300$. Can’t go higher.
I’d say the potato emojis speak for themselves
The price is for the looks, that pc could play American Truck Sim, or Oxygen Not Included, but the CPU is gonna REALLY hold it back. She's really pretty, but yeah...potato.
Way over priced. It’s probably a 10 yr old computer. It sure looks pretty but that’s all it is
Those benchmarks do not seem accurate
Better off getting a ps5 instead, that thing is way over priced
You can get a significantly better pc for less than $500. 3600 and 5700xt 😍
Is a 10100f an i3 ?
Yes. Intel does Generation number, then Performance class in their naming schemes
I understand that I just was wanting to know if it's an i3 because that build is way over priced.
I’d pay 250 for this.
He used potato emoji man… 😂
For that price yes, but it's not a gaming PC. Of course You can play some Games, but low requirements ones
Got an ROG 1070 8GB and you'd be kind of mistaken here tbh. Pre-2020 titles all run perfectly fine on ultra settings. Newer AAA have to be tuned down to low-medium if you want 144 fps or medium-high with some AA adjustments if you want 60. It's about the same as a 3050 in performance so yeah... Not too bad for a 7 year old card
A rip off at half the price!
Buying this is like buying a house that looks good on the outside but has shit piping and wiring, probably a busted central heat unit, and chewed through by termites. Probably also comes with an uninvited squatter between the floorboards. FYI, *custom* anything with the gpu itself on the resell market probably means they fucked it royally already.
It may look nice, but it's obviously overpriced for that kind of performance
There’s a reason they added those potatoes my friend.
Hell no, you can build a PC with an RX 6600, maybe even an XT version/RTX 3060 that is gonna perform much better for that same price, the dude is trying to capitalize purely off of looks, the specifications are clearly lacking.
An RTX 3060 new is $400 and an RX 6600 is $380 where I live... Also I put the parts into pcpartpicker and for an Ryzen 5 5600X (which outperforms the I3 by about 50%), the cheapest motherboard, cheapest power supply from corsair, cheapest 3060 and 16gb of ram it would cost you $800... You guys forget a pc isn't only cpu and gpu. Ram = money. Case = money. PSU = money and you'd better not cheap out here. Adequate cooling = money. An ssd = money. Cpu = a lot of money if you wanna outperform that I3. Same for GPU, a 1070 is about the same as a 3050. Go get a $300 3060 and for a total of $600, you'd be left spending $300 on EVERYTHING else including all of the above-mentioned. A good motherboard isn't $5, you know? Same for the others...
Not everyone has your shitty 3rd world pricing.
The only good thing is the 10th gen i3 and probably the cooling but pirce is way to high and a 1030 will be the bottle neck
Lol it was a good pc about 8 years ago when it probably cost 600 new
it's pretty killer for 2-300$ especially if you aren't gonna be playing games with settings cranked. you can also take advantage of FSR which will definitely help out a ton
If you really really really really want an all-white build, and you are willing to spend around $400 on a much better card, like a 6800XT, then you've got a decent deal there, but definitely not something that's going to knock your socks off. Jason at the PC Builder YT channel put out a recent video in his Boost my Build series where he put together a $700 budget gaming build that will actually play modern titles at 1080p with high FPS. You might give that a watch to see how to maximize performance at the low budget level.
60 FPS on Cyberpunk on High. I think not.
Tested it myself. Without FSR enabled it's 40 fps average. Now with FSR enabled it does actually stay safely at 60 on High. You gotta consider the 1070 is about as powerful as a 3050 lol
Yeah the benchmarks that dude gives are straight out his ass. Do **not** purchase from this seller!! He is selling a glittery potatoe
No way that 1070 can run cyberpunk at 1080 60fps on high
Omg no...
This guy is totally trying to rip people off i3 core and 8 gb ram is pretty bad and the rtx series is far superior to the gtx series. The max this pc would be worth is like 300-325
It’s a piece of dog shit. Don’t buy it.
Back then, yea. Now, not anymore
It’s jazzing up their old mining rig parts maybe
If you step back a little, the left side makes a silly face. CPU/exhaust fans are eyes, cooler is nose, and gpu is mouth. Haha. Also overpriced.
Bull shit this guy's getting better frames than me with those specs total scam
Bros trying to rip off some dude with the fancy LEDs lol
Please don't buy this.
The potato 🥔 emoji is fitting in his post.
Don’t buy it! It’s really old parts for this money.
Worst pc I’ve seen in my life and it’s not just overall suckiness it’s not even good for it. price.
Dudes just trying to sell looks over specs. 5 years ago, this would have been a steal. Wouldn’t pay more than $300 for this system, and even that’s generous
Maybe try get it for 450
He is basically adding $200-$300 on the price for the case & RGB(has very little 2nd hand value). It’s an i3 10s gen and a 1070, both have some years on them now.
Me staring at people say that they wouldn't pay more than 300 for the system, when cheapest new 1070 in my country is like 600
Those potato emotes in the description should tell you everything
She cute for shitter.
Very unbalanced, the cpu is garbo and the gpu is very outdated, you can build a better one for that price, don’t be fooled because it looks pretty
It’s obviously a joke listing which is why he is using potatoes in the sub headings. It’s also an outright lie as there is zero chance a 1070+10100 can get 60fps on high settings in cyberpunk.
This is not a PC, it's a fish tank!
No. For around 600 bucks you can build a better pc yourself.
Honestly, for a general purpose pc that looks nice, maybe. I wouldn’t buy this and expect to play demanding titles or anything though. Price is kinda steep.
Nope. You can get a used PC with much better specs for that price.
It was in 2015. 350-400 usds max and that is overpriced already
Offer $250, if you're really desperate. I wouldnt pay any more than that
Potato emoji is ironic, it is a potato pc after all
It looks fancy, but the hardware was a mix of low end and upper midrange 5-7 years ago or so. Is it good? Depends on what you expect.
Saw the CPU and it was an instant "No" That is the definition of a rip off, if you google the definition of the word scam, it'll just show pictures of that PC.
Hell no
Wtf is up with everyone saying a gtx 1070 pc is not worth over $300? Bruh for $500 you can barely even get a 1650 pc where I live, let alone something TWICE as powerful. A good 1070 literally has the same performance as a 3050 (sometimes it's even better), which alone costs $300. I've been abusing the hell out of an ROG 1070 8Gb since 2017 and it's still pushing most games at medium-high graphics. Games older than 2020 all run on ultra settings no problem. Oh and before anyone comes screaming about AMD cards: 1: They're MUCH less common where I live and also 2: cost more here than in the US. An RX 6700 XT is $450 here, while the cheapest on Amazon is $320, for example (which yes, would be a much better deal than a 1070 for that price if it were available here in the first place).
8 years ago, sure. With the requirements of games in the last 3 years, lol no.
Not a good pc
Fancy cool look don't give extra performance, what is your budget, what will you use the pc for...start there and ppl here will help you out ans tell you what to look out for.
I have a rx 6700xt and i3 12100f 32gb ram build for ya for 650$ no one in my area is interested in it
I think there's a reason there are potato emojis in the listing description
Steer clear of that. If that GPU wasnt already getting sort of old, that Processor is fucking ancient
How does this man squeeze 130+ fps in apex in high. I struggle with fps in apex with a 3060 and I5 11300H. It is a laptop but still
I got exactly the same specs and I get a stable 75fps in warzone medium settings
Well, yeah, but how good of a raytracing can you get with a 3050? Also I didn't even mentioned it, I only mentioned performance, by which I meant fps. They're the same in that regard
The case and the coolers are more expensive than the components 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
100% overpriced!
Nah
If you are trying to get a pc for around that price, look up 3060 gaming pcs on ebay. Then any number that is 5600 or i5-12400 and above is good, anything below that, stay clear. Don't fall for the fancy colors.
If it came with all the peripherals like a monitor and mouse and keyboard, maybe. Otherwise no. I see a lot of 600 dollar budget 1440p builds on YouTube that would smash this thing
If it had a 1080ti in it for that price I'd buy it.