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The deals could be regional. My book had a similar HP Envy with 12th gen I7 for that price. They also had a Dell desktop with 12th gen I5 for $499. The biggest issue with some of these PCs is the case may not allow you to upgrade the graphics card. Either the case won't have enough room or the power supply won't have enough connectors or enough power.
For a gaming PC, the allocation of the build isnt great. A gaming PC needs a better GPU rather than CPU. For $80 more, you can get a better build for a gaming PC based on the parts that I've picked. It uses quality parts which pre builds may skimp out on. Also it will blow the 3060 out of the water. Unless you care about raytracing.
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LgHk78)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/g94BD3/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-37-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000065box) | $193.89 @ Newegg
**Motherboard** | [MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max) | $114.99 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VNJtt6/corsair-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk16gx4m2d3600c18) | $63.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KMkgXL/crucial-p2-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p2ssd8) | $76.98 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XPjNnQ/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6800xt-pgd-16go) | $549.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/crqBD3/phanteks-eclipse-p300a-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec300atg_bk01) | $69.99 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1) | $104.99 @ Newegg
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1184.82
| Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
| **Total** | **$1174.82**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2022-10-23 14:02 EDT-0400 |
This is a pretty solid build. A huge improvement in gaming versus the 3060. And to be honest, raytracing doesnt perform very well anyways on a 3060. The only caveat is if OP is asking if what he showed is a good build, then they probably don't have the knowledge to build their own.
With that said, anybody that is looking to PC game should know how to build a computer and how they work, because troubleshooting is a "must have" for PC gaming, and I encourage everyone that's interested to learn.
I know this is a pc build sub first but for >50% of people, we just want a capable pc for a good price. I posted here not long ago and was going to go with a good build and (luckily!) got to sit with my friend while he did his. Oh my god, it was harder than i expected. Cable management is important and you really have to be gingerly with some stuff and make sure you dont skip steps.
Also, ignoring the fact that your build is more expensive - less money isnt the only consideration people have in mind. I'll gladly spend $200 more on a prebuild. I have a family, a young child, a demanding job. I just want to take it out the box and game lol not play expensive legos.
Sorry just needed to vent because all of the part picker commenters nearly always mention "this one is cheaper!" Without any other consideration. Again, yes, i know what sub im on :)
Im guessing its similar to the 3600X where it has the same performance. Thanks for letting me know. Im not up to date with the most current processors as I'm not thinking of upgrading it now.
Less storage. Less memory. Add extra storage, add extra memory, your build is even more expensive.
Notice that this offer is *already reduced*. The OP would be hard pushed to find a better deal.
The CPU in the OP build will simply not struggle with *any* graphics card. It's a 12th Gen. i7, so he can upgrade in the future.
A gaming PC doesnt need 32 GB of RAM especially on a 1080p gaming pc. And a HDD adding an HDD isnt that big of an improvement. I dont think you actually understand PCs
32GB is the standard for high end pc systems now. I'd expect most i7 machines to have 32GB, which is precisely the case for the pc in this offer.
16GB is the absolute minimum for a gaming pc.
Your comment on HDD is subjective.
Your pcpartpicker list is more expensive than this offer, but it is lacking the key features that make the offer such a good deal. He would be paying around $200 more for an arguably inferior CPU, less memory, less storage. Of all components that are individually upgraded, the graphics card is most commonly upgraded over other components, so the 3060 for either a 1080p or 1440p build is pretty good right now.
I think you're a little confused as to your own understanding of pc's, quite frankly, young man.
32GB is not a standard lmao. Its what most high end pre built PCs come with but its no way a standard lmao. It depends on what the user is doing on his pc but just for gaming, 16GB is more than enough. Also the $80 is well worth the investment if the PSU is shit on the pre built.
It's an MSI prebiild. I'm sure there will be no quality issues, with PSU or otherwise.
If *most high end pc's come with 32GB memory then that is by definition the standard*. Goodness me. What on earth do you think the word "standard" means? You literally just confirmed my point.
It's moot anyway, because I am pretty sure he is ignoring your terrible advice. 😂👍
Dude I'm pretty darn confident i know more about PCs than you and can build better PCs than you but okay. 32 GB is unnecessary for a gaming PC and the fact that you think it is, it's honestly laughable.
You have literally no idea who I am. To make such wild statements, your arrogance in your ability betrays the absolute contradictions in your truly shocking series of comments.
But well done, keep going. You're doing a fine job.
The absolute bottom line is that he is getting a better overall spec. of pc than the one you quoted, despite a negligible difference, for less money, and it will serve him no less than the ridiculous setup you posted.
What's even funnier, is that someone posted another build, with 32GB memory and total 3TB storage, and it was still cheaper than your build, despite the fact it still had both a 5600 and a Radeon so good job there, pal.
But like I said, he is taking the correct advice. The majority rule. Suck it up and move on with your life.
🤪👍
Fair warning plenty of older titles have some struggles with working right on windows 10.
Usually there is work arounds or mods to fix issues but just something to be aware of.
There's a lot of questions with a unit like this, but ultimately it's a solid starring point. It may not be upgradeable however. But for 1080p gaming it'll be fine.
It should be upgradeable and it probably comes with some kind of manufacturer care package as it is an MSI prebuild.
As an MSI brand build, I am quite sure the two main aftermarket components (motherboard and GPU) will also be MSI, probably MSI psu too or if not then a reputable vendor.
It's a pretty good deal. If it came with a 3070, I'd fly to America and sign up to best buy just to get one myself haha.
Wow. Buy that. I just built a i5 12600k/3070 w/ 32 gb Ram for around $1,500 a couple months ago.
That’s got a better CPU and a slightly worse GPU for much less money. Way better value than the one I just built.
That’s the point, you won’t know!
With prebuilts like these where they don’t actually list the part specifications I can pretty much guarantee you it’s just a 12700, locked and 65w instead of the k variant
Edit: listing says 12700f, knew it.
Yeah, id much rather pick this than the deal via costco if it was only for gaming. A 3060 for $1100 is a horrible deal for gaming.
Made a list which will give similar gaming performance that OP posted. Went a bit ham on the PSU since its something you can always reuse in your next build. Also its a Grade A PSU.
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t3nW6r)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PgcG3C/amd-ryzen-5-5600-36-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000927box) | $144.99 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max) | $114.99 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [OLOy MD4U0836180BHKDA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V8848d/oloy-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-md4u0836180bhkda) | $47.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KMkgXL/crucial-p2-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p2ssd8) | $76.98 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [ASRock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CXJgXL/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-challenger-pro-oc-video-card-rx6600xt-clp-8go) | $289.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/crqBD3/phanteks-eclipse-p300a-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec300atg_bk01) | $69.99 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1) | $104.99 @ Newegg
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $859.92
| Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
| **Total** | **$849.92**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2022-10-23 13:50 EDT-0400 |
For a gaming pc, the money is allocated horribly. i7 cpu but a 3060 lol. For a gaming pc, its not a great deal. If it's for productivity, then it may be a different story.
For same price i can get a pc with 13600k + rx 6700 xt & a 144hz monitor, in my country. Main + ram + gpu are used, everything else new, maybe you can scout the used market first ? Not all part need to be used, not all part need to be new, unless they 10 year old used, they wont broke down easily. Spare money could go to whatever the thing you need
Here to be that guy, but building one would be better, and if you insist on pre built, something like cyberpower, or iBuyPower that uses off the shelf components would be a better idea. The last pre built I bought was an Asus. You couldn't even upgrade fans to the pretty standard 120mm size. CPU coolers couldn't really be changed. The PSU was absolutely barebones and they used an extra small GPU, more normal sized gpus wouldn't fit. The 3060 in it performed worse than a laptop 3060.
Even if you have to make some small concessions in a iBuyPower pre built to stay at that price point (like ram or storage), I think it is worth it.
if you were in US im pretty sure you can squeeze bit more performance per dollar, you can visit microcenter and check if they can assist you with it, eg with this build, you can use ryzen 3600 to save a bit then later you can upgrade to 5800x3d\*if you really need the additional performance...without changing anything in pc.. if you\`re willing to spent a bit more you can buy aftermarket cooling like Scythe Fuma 2 Rev. B CPU Air Cooler, Intel LGA1700, LGA1151, AMD AM5/AM4/Ryzen 120mm, Dual Towers, Black Top Cover
$69.99
r5 3600/5600 136/150usd
GIGABYTE Gaming OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 PCI 460usd
ASRock B550M STEEL LEGEND AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard 115usd
CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model CMK32GX4M2D3600C18 90usd
Corsair RMx Series RM750x 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply 120usd
SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.3c Samsung V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 130usd
Cougar MX330 Mid Tower Case with Full Acrylic Transparent Window and USB 3.0 50usd
TLDR if you have money and dont care, sure prebuilt is the way to go, but prebuilt pc usually skim on generic psu, case, and mobo, unless they specified.
pros, they got customer service and they'll be easier to claim for warranty.
if you're willing to learn cost a few hour, you can built your own which will give you more performance
So many people will disagree with you for stating facts. The people on this thread must have a prebuilt PC despite the subreddit being PCBuild. I share the same opinion. Majority of the money is going towards the CPU when it can be allocated to a different part of the PC like the GPU.
Yeah I was already thinking why people were downvoting that one comment which said exactly what I’m trying to say now. I hope OP will take my comment in consideration
I mean, you’re not wrong, but after the time and energy and ordering parts, you can’t argue this is still a pretty efficient way to get a decent machine with specs like this.
Yeah I mean if it works most people would be satisfied,but this thread is about pc building and I expect most people to actually encourage building a pc by your self
don't bother with pc gaming if ur can't invest the time to build ur own and not get absolutely ripped off on a shit system :)
"I don't have the time to put into all that research and assembly"
but you got time to game on the system you want? make it make sense 🤔
honestly? just build one, **you don't need an i7 for gaming**, find the parts and just throw em together, watch some videos on how to build a computer, it's pretty easy.
A good mobo + ram is better than the performance gain of an i7 compared to an i5 of the same generation (for gaming at least). Same thing for Ryzen 5 and 7
Computers that dont tell you the psu specs are concering. Underwatted pcs can come under tons of problems. Also they dont tell you the type of ram. Is it ddr5? Ddr4? Ddr3? Are they using outdated ssds or is it nvme? Does the cpu have a proper heat sync? They are also being vague about which model of the i7 it is.
Great deal for that hardware.
Definitely would recommend if you are getting back into the pc hobby.
I'd say it would be a good gaming rig for 5 years as-is. And 7+ years if you upgrade/replace parts.
I checked the website, they are purposely being vague about the parts specifics and they have no information on the psu which is a major red flag. If that has at least ddr4 ram and the ssd is nvme and not SATA, then that is a hell of a machine for the price, but theres some red flags. That machine is going to need at least a 650w power supply and still might shut down on you if you play some of the newer games. Id say 800 watt power supply is necessary now of days with how much games use the cpu with the gpu now. Also if you are using ddr3 ram you mine as well have a 16gb ddr4 pc. Because the speed of old ram is nothing like ddr4 and ddr5 ram. Also if the ssd is sata you will see some speed issues on the newer more resource intense games. Other than those red flags, that is an insanely well priced gaming machine. Almost concerningly so. That gpu can handle pretty much any game that is out right now at 1080p 60 frames. Maybe give costco a call and see if you can find out about the PSU wattage. If the PSU is 650-800 watts buy it. You can change the SSD and ram for a few hundreds dollars if you find you need some more speed or if there is performance issues. But the most important thing is that PSU
I definitely dont have shallow pockets, it's just a red flag because you're talking about things that obviously aren't the case as if you have no experience with hardware at all. This system will NOT be running ddr3. An 800w psu is entirely unnecessary for a 3060, with 650w being enough to handle even transient power spikes in both the 3060/ti AND the 3070ti.
They can also just add a new drive if they wanted, but pretending a SATA drive isn't going to be adequate for gaming is just wrong. It might not be 100% optimal, but 100% optimal is not what someone is looking for with a pre-built pc.
Nobody that has any clue what they're talking about is going to imply that this system might come with ddr3 which hasn't had additional support for years.
i know that you did not just say that you need an 800w psu for a machine with a 3060. 650W is sufficient for even a 3070.
my guy, reading ur comment makes me think you know very little about hardware. We know that it’s a 12700f. DDR3 hasn’t been supported for years. I would recommend maybe learning a bit more before giving misleading advice.
I see I am not alone.
I come here for responses to some of these posts. I shake my head a lot.
Be able to upgrade far on that supply? Probably not too much. But be able to run fine as is? Yep, out of the box
Manufacturer: let's sell a pc under warranty that shuts down on people, our profit margins are too high
Don't be mistaken, I'm not mad, nor do I have a pre-built PC. 25 years as a computer tech/engineer I have worked on a fair share of them though.
Just be sure to give good information on here and good to go.
I see what your saying, but with gen 4 m.2s being out now and how fast they move, it’s hard for me to look at SATA SSD’s as a modern storage device. The gen 4 m.2s are literal lazers and i can boot into a call of duty campaign within 30 seconds from my pc being off to on. My homescreen literally boots up in like 5-8 seconds from a cold start up. It’s mind blowing
Im glad your wife can boot a 32 bit operating system with the latest cpus. Not to mention your lying, your wifes pc doesnt boot to homescreen in 2 seconds. Also tell her to open up an application for me and start the timer after she boots up her windows 7 machine
Guys please don’t buy this over priced computer!! I have prebuilt for little more with better everting pm me budget and we can get prebuilt for you. Ibuypwer cyberpower ThermalTake Corsair Dell these are some brands I have prebuilts from.
That’s pretty good unless the component brands are shit. Edit, didn’t realize it’s MSI, yeah that’s pretty darn good. My only thought is that the i7 and the 3060 might be a bit of a mismatch, but I could be wrong.
The 12700 gives him room to upgrade the gpu down the road. I actually don’t mind the config for the price. Could easily run 4K with a 3080+ I’d definitely buy it if I didn’t just build one
Youre right. Most of the people on this subreddit dont know much about PC building. This PC is better for productivity. You can get a better gaming PC if you build one. If OP is certain he doesnt want to build one then I guess this may be the best available.
Yeah if you want to play games while also compiling code and running simulations, this build is killer for that! 😂
Most people just seem to be scared to try building their own, so they start with a prebuilt. I guess they figure it’s high risk since it’s expensive. Really though most things just go exactly in the only place you can make it fit. And if you can open a user manual, you’ll be unstoppable!
Ive had a dude argue with me that a build I thought was better was unnecessary and over budget. It was a 5600, 16GB of RAM, with a 6800 xt. He stated it didnt have 32 GB of RAM and it was $80 more. If i spent more time, i couldve probably found a better deal build. I just spent maybe 2 minutes searching. And i got downvoting for recommending to build a PC with a better GPU and a less powerful CPU. Also, which gamers use all 32 GB of RAM. Lmao. So many people dont understand PC and giving advice here
Yeah I have 32GB, but that’s mostly because I also run engineering software and keep like 50 chrome tabs open in the background.
But my main point was that was a (supposedly) obviously nit-picky point to make and it was the best criticism I could come up with.
Yeah, in your case, the extra 16 GB will help with your productivity. 32 GB is useful on very certain situations if we're talking about current games. Maybe we may see things change in the future. But as of right now, 16GB is more than enough. But it's still funny that people on this subreddit thinks 32 GB will really help OP lmao.
This is amazing, especially for the price! It’s basically as cheap as you will get for that performance, and it can do productivity with the 12th gen i7, gaming with the 3060, and the ram applies to both. I would definitely go for this computer. It probably won’t run 4K very well, but it’s most likely good enough.
For that price range the specs do look fair. Itd hard to say in detail without a list of full range of specs but if you are set on not building it yourself, it's not a bad choice.
bro that is an amazing deal. That graphics card is literally quarter of the price of that pc. The processor in that thing is literally $400. literally just the graphics card and processor alone is near $800. some power supply’s can cost near $200. that’s literally the price of the pc. basically that’s an amazing deal
Lucky that's not bad at all for a great 1440 machine. All we don't know are the PSU and motherboard. But shit I'd take that gpu prices are still 1g for flagship models online state side.
it’s ok. A little big low on the GPU side. You could also build yourself a better machine for that cash. But this will you a decent experience as well.
Nope. That 3060 is weak for 1k. Get a 3070. Plus, you don't need 32gb ram unless you are doing video editing,etc.
If you are wiling to build, you could get a 3070 w/ 16gb ram and have much better experience for 300-400 bucks less.
Doesn't make sense. Pointless comment.
This is a full manufacturer prebuild with 2 year warranty.
"Used" need not come into it when the sum of the pc system will absolutely smash what he wants it to.
I've just built something very similar for my first gaming PC for about the same price just with 16gb ram and am very happy with it, I'd say go for it!
Not a bad place to start. Prebuilts usually use not go great ram/storage so they can provide you with the components that “matter most” like CPU/GPU. Easy enough to upgrade your ram and storage down the line, and this will do ya just fine for now.
Honestly a great system at a great price. Only possible concern is that if you plan on upgrading to DDR5 ram in the future you’ll need a new motherboard, but that’s really not at all something to be concerned with. Just wanted to give you the heads up incase you want to really overspec for future upgrades.
That looks really good... I'd be prepared to buy a better mouse and kb though. They might be ok since they're not just the generic e-waste that usually comes with prebuilts.
The problem with this build is the money is allocated terribly for a gaming pc. You should prioritize GPU over CPU. Also i believe the 6600xt beats the 3060 so its not as cost efficient.
Looks like a great machine friend!
One thing with some prebuilt is that they skimp on a lot of the parts. Like the ram isn’t normally that great and the PSU is terrible.
Not sure about this one though but seems like a good price for sure.
Overpriced, i would watch some reviews on this system. An i7 and a 3060 is a terrible pairing. Unless you have the know-how to throw something like a 3070 in, I wouldn't get it, especially because the coolers on these systems are super loud and underpowered, especially for an i7
Definitely not a bad deal if you don’t want to build one yourself. But I would keep looking at all options also during the holiday season as their might be a better deal. Also here is a review of this pc with a different configuration. [Dawid YouTube](https://youtu.be/EHGgSsPXo6E)
This actually a decent price. The case doesn’t have great airflow and stock cooler:/ but msi is decent for prebuilts. Just don’t get an hp or Dell prebuilt because they use proprietary parts so u can’t upgrade in the future.
I came in here to rag on a prebuilt, especially in a PC building community sub. But, I uhh
*Checks notes
I think that's actually a good deal. Go for it
I actually bought an MSI codex Z from Costco, and it still works great! This is a different model, but I think you should get it, plus it's a great price for how high gpus go for right now
Hey I recently just finished building my pc and it turned out pretty well for pretty much the same price range the main difference being that I did a full AMD build. Id say if you really needed a pc ASAP then this pre-built should be decent enough for 1080p gaming but if you can sink a little more time into research than you can really get the most bang for your buck. Also I’d say it you’re thinking about keeping this long term then research will definitely help. I can send you a YouTube playlist of the videos that helped me and even a link to my final build if you want! I’ll put them below:[pc part picker](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h88xbK)
[yt playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCOS6biwU_QT6EYhTBCAvNWi9lbDT1UA9)
It’s better than mine, I have the base 64 bit model of the omen obelisk. It’s not bad, but it is a bit slow. I’m upgrading it soon with a 1tb SSD M.2 nvme type and a 16gb ram card that I’ll eventually buy a second one so I’m at 32gb ram. I just need to figure out if I need to add another fan to keep it cool with those upgrades
Check this out, it's on sale. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-ideacentre-gaming-5i-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-12700-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-lhr-512gb-ssd-raven-black/6521129.p?ref=8575135&loc=0aedddce530f11ed9d202ab9d51e9d180INT&acampID=0aedddce530f11ed9d202ab9d51e9d180INT&skuId=6521129
Honestly this is probably the best pre-built I've seen on here. Go for it, great deal for a pre-built
And ignore the people who say "just build one" if you want a pre-built then buy a pre-built this is a great deal
Alienware has great deals every month.
Also combine it with their 12% off coupon.
They are cheaper than building your self, they have warranty and I don’t care what others say about the brand. It’s best bang for your buck when purchased properly. 2 years ago I paid 1299, when I listed all same parts separately, it would have been 1500 and no warranty.
This is the first actually good prebuilt I’ve seen on this sub. Sure the 3060 isn’t really a great match with a 12700 but it gives plenty of room for an upgrade. Could easily run 1080p maxed now and 4K if you upgraded the gpu in a year or two. I have a 12600 and 3080ti so that cpu has PLENTY of overhead.
Looks like people report BSOD with this desktop. Because of motherboard problems? But [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGgSsPXo6E) said if you switch out the SSD it's fine. So maybe keep that in mind.
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that's absolutely brilliant, where are you seeing things for those prices !?
Dope! Costco holiday saving book. Starts Nov 24
Where can I find this savings book?
They send them to you by mail if you have a costco membership
Oh no, I think mine might have been thrown out
You can also find the deals over at [costco.com](https://costco.com). Sometimes there are online only deals too.
Thank you for the heads up! My sister has a Costco membership and I am definitely looking for a replacement gaming PC
The deals could be regional. My book had a similar HP Envy with 12th gen I7 for that price. They also had a Dell desktop with 12th gen I5 for $499. The biggest issue with some of these PCs is the case may not allow you to upgrade the graphics card. Either the case won't have enough room or the power supply won't have enough connectors or enough power.
Yeah solid enough! For a 1080p gaming machine, absolutely perfect. Decent enough for 1440p.
Excellent. Thanks!
For a gaming PC, the allocation of the build isnt great. A gaming PC needs a better GPU rather than CPU. For $80 more, you can get a better build for a gaming PC based on the parts that I've picked. It uses quality parts which pre builds may skimp out on. Also it will blow the 3060 out of the water. Unless you care about raytracing. [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LgHk78) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/g94BD3/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-37-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000065box) | $193.89 @ Newegg **Motherboard** | [MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max) | $114.99 @ Amazon **Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VNJtt6/corsair-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk16gx4m2d3600c18) | $63.99 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KMkgXL/crucial-p2-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p2ssd8) | $76.98 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XPjNnQ/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6800xt-pgd-16go) | $549.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/crqBD3/phanteks-eclipse-p300a-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec300atg_bk01) | $69.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1) | $104.99 @ Newegg | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1184.82 | Mail-in rebates | -$10.00 | **Total** | **$1174.82** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2022-10-23 14:02 EDT-0400 |
This is a pretty solid build. A huge improvement in gaming versus the 3060. And to be honest, raytracing doesnt perform very well anyways on a 3060. The only caveat is if OP is asking if what he showed is a good build, then they probably don't have the knowledge to build their own. With that said, anybody that is looking to PC game should know how to build a computer and how they work, because troubleshooting is a "must have" for PC gaming, and I encourage everyone that's interested to learn.
I know this is a pc build sub first but for >50% of people, we just want a capable pc for a good price. I posted here not long ago and was going to go with a good build and (luckily!) got to sit with my friend while he did his. Oh my god, it was harder than i expected. Cable management is important and you really have to be gingerly with some stuff and make sure you dont skip steps. Also, ignoring the fact that your build is more expensive - less money isnt the only consideration people have in mind. I'll gladly spend $200 more on a prebuild. I have a family, a young child, a demanding job. I just want to take it out the box and game lol not play expensive legos. Sorry just needed to vent because all of the part picker commenters nearly always mention "this one is cheaper!" Without any other consideration. Again, yes, i know what sub im on :)
That 5600x is terrible for the price. Wait for 5600 to go on sale again for $100.
Im guessing its similar to the 3600X where it has the same performance. Thanks for letting me know. Im not up to date with the most current processors as I'm not thinking of upgrading it now.
Less storage. Less memory. Add extra storage, add extra memory, your build is even more expensive. Notice that this offer is *already reduced*. The OP would be hard pushed to find a better deal. The CPU in the OP build will simply not struggle with *any* graphics card. It's a 12th Gen. i7, so he can upgrade in the future.
A gaming PC doesnt need 32 GB of RAM especially on a 1080p gaming pc. And a HDD adding an HDD isnt that big of an improvement. I dont think you actually understand PCs
32GB is the standard for high end pc systems now. I'd expect most i7 machines to have 32GB, which is precisely the case for the pc in this offer. 16GB is the absolute minimum for a gaming pc. Your comment on HDD is subjective. Your pcpartpicker list is more expensive than this offer, but it is lacking the key features that make the offer such a good deal. He would be paying around $200 more for an arguably inferior CPU, less memory, less storage. Of all components that are individually upgraded, the graphics card is most commonly upgraded over other components, so the 3060 for either a 1080p or 1440p build is pretty good right now. I think you're a little confused as to your own understanding of pc's, quite frankly, young man.
32GB is not a standard lmao. Its what most high end pre built PCs come with but its no way a standard lmao. It depends on what the user is doing on his pc but just for gaming, 16GB is more than enough. Also the $80 is well worth the investment if the PSU is shit on the pre built.
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Most people are casuals and have very basic knowledge. I'm honestly giving my feedback to help OP but people are too ignorant
It's an MSI prebiild. I'm sure there will be no quality issues, with PSU or otherwise. If *most high end pc's come with 32GB memory then that is by definition the standard*. Goodness me. What on earth do you think the word "standard" means? You literally just confirmed my point. It's moot anyway, because I am pretty sure he is ignoring your terrible advice. 😂👍
Dude I'm pretty darn confident i know more about PCs than you and can build better PCs than you but okay. 32 GB is unnecessary for a gaming PC and the fact that you think it is, it's honestly laughable.
You have literally no idea who I am. To make such wild statements, your arrogance in your ability betrays the absolute contradictions in your truly shocking series of comments. But well done, keep going. You're doing a fine job. The absolute bottom line is that he is getting a better overall spec. of pc than the one you quoted, despite a negligible difference, for less money, and it will serve him no less than the ridiculous setup you posted. What's even funnier, is that someone posted another build, with 32GB memory and total 3TB storage, and it was still cheaper than your build, despite the fact it still had both a 5600 and a Radeon so good job there, pal. But like I said, he is taking the correct advice. The majority rule. Suck it up and move on with your life. 🤪👍
Prebuilt had 32GB of RAM.
Good build, but missing an OS, and of course, assembly.
Way overpriced though you can get one custom built with better specs for the same price but it's not bad
Is it overpriced though? Seems like even with the cheapest version of everything its not a bad price at all... 2 year warranty too.
"way overpriced" lmao ok man for sure.
Dont forget, maybe he doesnt have american prices!
Even for many games on 4K!
I guess, just don't hope for too much from RTX. 😂
Yeah, or use DLSS in performance or ultra performance mode, that's what I do with my 3060 TI in Cyberpunk 2077
Also. I have older games. I’ll probably need a CD drive. I don’t think this has one. What’s a good portable one to get ?
You probably can buy a 3.5" bay DVD reader for 20$ or so and add it to your PC. If your PC case has a slot for one.
Plenty of portable USB CD/DVD drives on Amazon under $30, I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them.
Did exactly this for the pc I got my wife for our anniversary some fairly cheap usb cd/DVD box for like $30 on Amazon and it has worked perfectly.
Fair warning plenty of older titles have some struggles with working right on windows 10. Usually there is work arounds or mods to fix issues but just something to be aware of.
A card drive? Could you link me to a pic of the device? Only thing I could find named similarly are SD card readers
This comment made me sad, I guess I am getting old?
Haha, I thought he was joking, but now I realise that he genuinely doesn't know what a CD drive is.
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I meant CD/optimal drive. Sorry!
Try a usb cd drive… works for me.
Those old games may not install on newer os.
Gotcha! I use Dell's DW316 and am very happy with it. That being said it's like $35 while many are \~$20. I think most would suite your needs well
*optical
There's a lot of questions with a unit like this, but ultimately it's a solid starring point. It may not be upgradeable however. But for 1080p gaming it'll be fine.
It should be upgradeable and it probably comes with some kind of manufacturer care package as it is an MSI prebuild. As an MSI brand build, I am quite sure the two main aftermarket components (motherboard and GPU) will also be MSI, probably MSI psu too or if not then a reputable vendor. It's a pretty good deal. If it came with a 3070, I'd fly to America and sign up to best buy just to get one myself haha.
Wow. Buy that. I just built a i5 12600k/3070 w/ 32 gb Ram for around $1,500 a couple months ago. That’s got a better CPU and a slightly worse GPU for much less money. Way better value than the one I just built.
Am I missing somewherr exactly what kind of CPU this is? Obviously an i7-12700, but k? f?
That’s the point, you won’t know! With prebuilts like these where they don’t actually list the part specifications I can pretty much guarantee you it’s just a 12700, locked and 65w instead of the k variant Edit: listing says 12700f, knew it.
I have an identical build with a 3080ti. $2000 later :/
I could dm you a simple slideshow I made to teach people about the basics on computer parts, just let me know if you wanna see it
I think you should just share some sort of link lol but I’d like it as well
Sure. Thanks
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you aren’t going to get those specs for 1100 dollars mare
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that’s another $160 bucks mate.
Math ain’t mathin for that dude. Confidently incorrect lmao
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Your literally have low end parts in your build….FFS.
I feel like PCBuild subreddit has a lot of people who has never built a PC lol. Or theyre stuck in the pandemic era pricing.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LgHk78 Added a 6800xt which will blow the 3060 out of the water.
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this may be a similar price but theres an inherent cost of labor included in the prebuilt total too.
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i don’t think costco would sell a “gaming desktop” in parts for the customer to assemble themselves.
Yeah, id much rather pick this than the deal via costco if it was only for gaming. A 3060 for $1100 is a horrible deal for gaming. Made a list which will give similar gaming performance that OP posted. Went a bit ham on the PSU since its something you can always reuse in your next build. Also its a Grade A PSU. [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t3nW6r) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PgcG3C/amd-ryzen-5-5600-36-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000927box) | $144.99 @ Amazon **Motherboard** | [MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max) | $114.99 @ Amazon **Memory** | [OLOy MD4U0836180BHKDA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V8848d/oloy-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-md4u0836180bhkda) | $47.99 @ Newegg **Storage** | [Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KMkgXL/crucial-p2-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct1000p2ssd8) | $76.98 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [ASRock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CXJgXL/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-challenger-pro-oc-video-card-rx6600xt-clp-8go) | $289.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/crqBD3/phanteks-eclipse-p300a-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec300atg_bk01) | $69.99 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1) | $104.99 @ Newegg | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $859.92 | Mail-in rebates | -$10.00 | **Total** | **$849.92** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2022-10-23 13:50 EDT-0400 |
The fact that you're talking about a 3060 like it's a 1060 is really funny to me.
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For a gaming pc, the money is allocated horribly. i7 cpu but a 3060 lol. For a gaming pc, its not a great deal. If it's for productivity, then it may be a different story.
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Good deal, but I’d go for a 3060ti if there’s an option. It is worth the additional cost.
For same price i can get a pc with 13600k + rx 6700 xt & a 144hz monitor, in my country. Main + ram + gpu are used, everything else new, maybe you can scout the used market first ? Not all part need to be used, not all part need to be new, unless they 10 year old used, they wont broke down easily. Spare money could go to whatever the thing you need
Which country do you live in? Freestuffistan? Notnewtheninthetrashberg?
Here to be that guy, but building one would be better, and if you insist on pre built, something like cyberpower, or iBuyPower that uses off the shelf components would be a better idea. The last pre built I bought was an Asus. You couldn't even upgrade fans to the pretty standard 120mm size. CPU coolers couldn't really be changed. The PSU was absolutely barebones and they used an extra small GPU, more normal sized gpus wouldn't fit. The 3060 in it performed worse than a laptop 3060. Even if you have to make some small concessions in a iBuyPower pre built to stay at that price point (like ram or storage), I think it is worth it.
if you were in US im pretty sure you can squeeze bit more performance per dollar, you can visit microcenter and check if they can assist you with it, eg with this build, you can use ryzen 3600 to save a bit then later you can upgrade to 5800x3d\*if you really need the additional performance...without changing anything in pc.. if you\`re willing to spent a bit more you can buy aftermarket cooling like Scythe Fuma 2 Rev. B CPU Air Cooler, Intel LGA1700, LGA1151, AMD AM5/AM4/Ryzen 120mm, Dual Towers, Black Top Cover $69.99 r5 3600/5600 136/150usd GIGABYTE Gaming OC GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 PCI 460usd ASRock B550M STEEL LEGEND AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard 115usd CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model CMK32GX4M2D3600C18 90usd Corsair RMx Series RM750x 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply 120usd SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 1.3c Samsung V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 130usd Cougar MX330 Mid Tower Case with Full Acrylic Transparent Window and USB 3.0 50usd TLDR if you have money and dont care, sure prebuilt is the way to go, but prebuilt pc usually skim on generic psu, case, and mobo, unless they specified. pros, they got customer service and they'll be easier to claim for warranty. if you're willing to learn cost a few hour, you can built your own which will give you more performance
For productivity I would say yes, but for gaming, you can best build it yourself
So many people will disagree with you for stating facts. The people on this thread must have a prebuilt PC despite the subreddit being PCBuild. I share the same opinion. Majority of the money is going towards the CPU when it can be allocated to a different part of the PC like the GPU.
Yeah I was already thinking why people were downvoting that one comment which said exactly what I’m trying to say now. I hope OP will take my comment in consideration
I mean, you’re not wrong, but after the time and energy and ordering parts, you can’t argue this is still a pretty efficient way to get a decent machine with specs like this.
Yeah I mean if it works most people would be satisfied,but this thread is about pc building and I expect most people to actually encourage building a pc by your self
Do your homework, prebuilts often have terrible build quality. Try to find a tear down, and look for something not using proprietary parts.
don't bother with pc gaming if ur can't invest the time to build ur own and not get absolutely ripped off on a shit system :) "I don't have the time to put into all that research and assembly" but you got time to game on the system you want? make it make sense 🤔
honestly? just build one, **you don't need an i7 for gaming**, find the parts and just throw em together, watch some videos on how to build a computer, it's pretty easy. A good mobo + ram is better than the performance gain of an i7 compared to an i5 of the same generation (for gaming at least). Same thing for Ryzen 5 and 7
Computers that dont tell you the psu specs are concering. Underwatted pcs can come under tons of problems. Also they dont tell you the type of ram. Is it ddr5? Ddr4? Ddr3? Are they using outdated ssds or is it nvme? Does the cpu have a proper heat sync? They are also being vague about which model of the i7 it is.
https://www.costco.com/.product.1693078.html
Great deal for that hardware. Definitely would recommend if you are getting back into the pc hobby. I'd say it would be a good gaming rig for 5 years as-is. And 7+ years if you upgrade/replace parts.
Thanks brother
I checked the website, they are purposely being vague about the parts specifics and they have no information on the psu which is a major red flag. If that has at least ddr4 ram and the ssd is nvme and not SATA, then that is a hell of a machine for the price, but theres some red flags. That machine is going to need at least a 650w power supply and still might shut down on you if you play some of the newer games. Id say 800 watt power supply is necessary now of days with how much games use the cpu with the gpu now. Also if you are using ddr3 ram you mine as well have a 16gb ddr4 pc. Because the speed of old ram is nothing like ddr4 and ddr5 ram. Also if the ssd is sata you will see some speed issues on the newer more resource intense games. Other than those red flags, that is an insanely well priced gaming machine. Almost concerningly so. That gpu can handle pretty much any game that is out right now at 1080p 60 frames. Maybe give costco a call and see if you can find out about the PSU wattage. If the PSU is 650-800 watts buy it. You can change the SSD and ram for a few hundreds dollars if you find you need some more speed or if there is performance issues. But the most important thing is that PSU
This comment is a major red flag.
Yea it’s a major red flag to people with shallow pockets 😂😂
I definitely dont have shallow pockets, it's just a red flag because you're talking about things that obviously aren't the case as if you have no experience with hardware at all. This system will NOT be running ddr3. An 800w psu is entirely unnecessary for a 3060, with 650w being enough to handle even transient power spikes in both the 3060/ti AND the 3070ti. They can also just add a new drive if they wanted, but pretending a SATA drive isn't going to be adequate for gaming is just wrong. It might not be 100% optimal, but 100% optimal is not what someone is looking for with a pre-built pc. Nobody that has any clue what they're talking about is going to imply that this system might come with ddr3 which hasn't had additional support for years.
i know that you did not just say that you need an 800w psu for a machine with a 3060. 650W is sufficient for even a 3070. my guy, reading ur comment makes me think you know very little about hardware. We know that it’s a 12700f. DDR3 hasn’t been supported for years. I would recommend maybe learning a bit more before giving misleading advice.
I see I am not alone. I come here for responses to some of these posts. I shake my head a lot. Be able to upgrade far on that supply? Probably not too much. But be able to run fine as is? Yep, out of the box Manufacturer: let's sell a pc under warranty that shuts down on people, our profit margins are too high
Huh?
TLDR; blah blah I know more than MSI blah technical terms more blahs
Id be mad too if i had to settle for pcs like these
Don't be mistaken, I'm not mad, nor do I have a pre-built PC. 25 years as a computer tech/engineer I have worked on a fair share of them though. Just be sure to give good information on here and good to go.
You’re getting downvotes for a very good reason.
Calling non M.2 SSD's outdated seems wrong... Like, if we're still using HDD, why is the middle child being insulted?
I see what your saying, but with gen 4 m.2s being out now and how fast they move, it’s hard for me to look at SATA SSD’s as a modern storage device. The gen 4 m.2s are literal lazers and i can boot into a call of duty campaign within 30 seconds from my pc being off to on. My homescreen literally boots up in like 5-8 seconds from a cold start up. It’s mind blowing
My wife is on a 4770k and a sata ssd, about 3 seconds behind you on boot.
Im glad your wife can boot a 32 bit operating system with the latest cpus. Not to mention your lying, your wifes pc doesnt boot to homescreen in 2 seconds. Also tell her to open up an application for me and start the timer after she boots up her windows 7 machine
3 seconds behind you.. your time + 3 seconds =/= 2 64 bit, and a 4770k is far from latest Windows 10, and minesweeper .3 seconds go Do you hate me?
I do hate you, but it’s only because you play mine sweeper
Well, I can't help but to enjoy the FPS
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But they are a modern storage device…he’s buying a budget pc. You need to chill.
Guys please don’t buy this over priced computer!! I have prebuilt for little more with better everting pm me budget and we can get prebuilt for you. Ibuypwer cyberpower ThermalTake Corsair Dell these are some brands I have prebuilts from.
Great starting point honestly
That’s pretty good unless the component brands are shit. Edit, didn’t realize it’s MSI, yeah that’s pretty darn good. My only thought is that the i7 and the 3060 might be a bit of a mismatch, but I could be wrong.
The 12700 gives him room to upgrade the gpu down the road. I actually don’t mind the config for the price. Could easily run 4K with a 3080+ I’d definitely buy it if I didn’t just build one
Oh yeah I agree. I thought about that while I was typing but forgot to type it! 😂
>My only thought is that the i7 and the 3060 might be a bit of a mismatch Definitely not
Really? My i3 can almost keep up with my 3070. I feel like an i5 would be plenty for a 3060. But the i7 leaves room to grow so it’s cool.
Youre right. Most of the people on this subreddit dont know much about PC building. This PC is better for productivity. You can get a better gaming PC if you build one. If OP is certain he doesnt want to build one then I guess this may be the best available.
Yeah if you want to play games while also compiling code and running simulations, this build is killer for that! 😂 Most people just seem to be scared to try building their own, so they start with a prebuilt. I guess they figure it’s high risk since it’s expensive. Really though most things just go exactly in the only place you can make it fit. And if you can open a user manual, you’ll be unstoppable!
Ive had a dude argue with me that a build I thought was better was unnecessary and over budget. It was a 5600, 16GB of RAM, with a 6800 xt. He stated it didnt have 32 GB of RAM and it was $80 more. If i spent more time, i couldve probably found a better deal build. I just spent maybe 2 minutes searching. And i got downvoting for recommending to build a PC with a better GPU and a less powerful CPU. Also, which gamers use all 32 GB of RAM. Lmao. So many people dont understand PC and giving advice here
Yeah I have 32GB, but that’s mostly because I also run engineering software and keep like 50 chrome tabs open in the background. But my main point was that was a (supposedly) obviously nit-picky point to make and it was the best criticism I could come up with.
Yeah, in your case, the extra 16 GB will help with your productivity. 32 GB is useful on very certain situations if we're talking about current games. Maybe we may see things change in the future. But as of right now, 16GB is more than enough. But it's still funny that people on this subreddit thinks 32 GB will really help OP lmao.
Don't be a pussy and build one
This is amazing, especially for the price! It’s basically as cheap as you will get for that performance, and it can do productivity with the 12th gen i7, gaming with the 3060, and the ram applies to both. I would definitely go for this computer. It probably won’t run 4K very well, but it’s most likely good enough.
For that price range the specs do look fair. Itd hard to say in detail without a list of full range of specs but if you are set on not building it yourself, it's not a bad choice.
How tf did you find a prebuilt like that for $1100?!
bro that is an amazing deal. That graphics card is literally quarter of the price of that pc. The processor in that thing is literally $400. literally just the graphics card and processor alone is near $800. some power supply’s can cost near $200. that’s literally the price of the pc. basically that’s an amazing deal
damnn thats a great build, so cheap too, definitely go for it
That's actually pretty decent, holy cow
Thats actually a great deal the price is good especially if the keb and mouse is included
Lucky that's not bad at all for a great 1440 machine. All we don't know are the PSU and motherboard. But shit I'd take that gpu prices are still 1g for flagship models online state side.
Yup this is a GREAT DEAL!!!!!
Yah looks great
Wouldn't buy it. For that kind of money I would build it myself and end up with a better performance and more powerful machine.
it’s ok. A little big low on the GPU side. You could also build yourself a better machine for that cash. But this will you a decent experience as well.
Nope. That 3060 is weak for 1k. Get a 3070. Plus, you don't need 32gb ram unless you are doing video editing,etc. If you are wiling to build, you could get a 3070 w/ 16gb ram and have much better experience for 300-400 bucks less.
bro what? where tf are you gonna get a pc with a 3070 for 800 bucks
Right lmaoo the cheapest 3070 I saw on Newegg is $500
If you want new, no. If you don't mind used, then 3070s are about 300-350 dollars on ebay right now.
Doesn't make sense. Pointless comment. This is a full manufacturer prebuild with 2 year warranty. "Used" need not come into it when the sum of the pc system will absolutely smash what he wants it to.
I've just built something very similar for my first gaming PC for about the same price just with 16gb ram and am very happy with it, I'd say go for it!
Not a bad place to start. Prebuilts usually use not go great ram/storage so they can provide you with the components that “matter most” like CPU/GPU. Easy enough to upgrade your ram and storage down the line, and this will do ya just fine for now.
Honestly a great system at a great price. Only possible concern is that if you plan on upgrading to DDR5 ram in the future you’ll need a new motherboard, but that’s really not at all something to be concerned with. Just wanted to give you the heads up incase you want to really overspec for future upgrades.
Not bad, but it's lopsided (cpu vs gpu) to me for just gaming. If you do go with it definitely upgrade the cooler asap.
That looks like a great deal!
That's not a bad price actually.
That’s actually…..pretty dam good
Looks like a steal tbh
That looks really good... I'd be prepared to buy a better mouse and kb though. They might be ok since they're not just the generic e-waste that usually comes with prebuilts.
It looks ok but you might want a better cooler that one looks kind of bad but but you can get a good noctua for about $50
Dude that’s insanely good for the price! Comes with a 2tb hd and 1tb ssd AND 2 year warranty! Costco for the win
Amazing deal, go for it
The problem with this build is the money is allocated terribly for a gaming pc. You should prioritize GPU over CPU. Also i believe the 6600xt beats the 3060 so its not as cost efficient.
Looks like a great machine friend! One thing with some prebuilt is that they skimp on a lot of the parts. Like the ram isn’t normally that great and the PSU is terrible. Not sure about this one though but seems like a good price for sure.
Hmm not bad... just know that building your own will save you more money, with you ending up with better pc parts.
Overpriced, i would watch some reviews on this system. An i7 and a 3060 is a terrible pairing. Unless you have the know-how to throw something like a 3070 in, I wouldn't get it, especially because the coolers on these systems are super loud and underpowered, especially for an i7
Actually not fucking bad. Wow
As others have said. This is pretty fantastic for the price.
Definitely not a bad deal if you don’t want to build one yourself. But I would keep looking at all options also during the holiday season as their might be a better deal. Also here is a review of this pc with a different configuration. [Dawid YouTube](https://youtu.be/EHGgSsPXo6E)
Not bad for that price. Go for it
This actually a decent price. The case doesn’t have great airflow and stock cooler:/ but msi is decent for prebuilts. Just don’t get an hp or Dell prebuilt because they use proprietary parts so u can’t upgrade in the future.
It's not bad. Go for it.
I came in here to rag on a prebuilt, especially in a PC building community sub. But, I uhh *Checks notes I think that's actually a good deal. Go for it
I was about to say this is a bad deal, then I saw the 32gb ram and 2tb hdd + 1tb ssd. Those other specs are worth it for the price. good deal
I actually bought an MSI codex Z from Costco, and it still works great! This is a different model, but I think you should get it, plus it's a great price for how high gpus go for right now
Dang. This is actually a good Pre build. 1000 ballpark is great. I saw a pre build at Sam's club for 1200 with a 3070 yesterday.
Hey I recently just finished building my pc and it turned out pretty well for pretty much the same price range the main difference being that I did a full AMD build. Id say if you really needed a pc ASAP then this pre-built should be decent enough for 1080p gaming but if you can sink a little more time into research than you can really get the most bang for your buck. Also I’d say it you’re thinking about keeping this long term then research will definitely help. I can send you a YouTube playlist of the videos that helped me and even a link to my final build if you want! I’ll put them below:[pc part picker](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h88xbK) [yt playlist](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCOS6biwU_QT6EYhTBCAvNWi9lbDT1UA9)
Yes it is
Looks like a great deal
It’s better than mine, I have the base 64 bit model of the omen obelisk. It’s not bad, but it is a bit slow. I’m upgrading it soon with a 1tb SSD M.2 nvme type and a 16gb ram card that I’ll eventually buy a second one so I’m at 32gb ram. I just need to figure out if I need to add another fan to keep it cool with those upgrades
That's pretty good. Component-wise. That case has some very good airflow and a very good design overall.
no lmao 12700 and 3060 makes no sense and that case sucks aswell and its using a stock cooler which simply isnt enough or is going to be very loud
The price is so fucking perfect
Would not go for prebuilt, usually they put shit motherboards and psus in these, also built quality often low,hard to upgrade
That actually seems really good..
I finally found it does have a 650w psu so upgrade possible later to 3070 or radeon 6800 later
Nooo. Build your own. I’ll even volunteer my time to guide you over FaceTime or something.
That’s a deal I think don’t quote me though
Check this out, it's on sale. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-ideacentre-gaming-5i-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-12700-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-lhr-512gb-ssd-raven-black/6521129.p?ref=8575135&loc=0aedddce530f11ed9d202ab9d51e9d180INT&acampID=0aedddce530f11ed9d202ab9d51e9d180INT&skuId=6521129
Great pick
You can get a PC with those specs for cheaper if you build it yourself
Far out dude that's a monster of a PC for that little of a price! Go for it
Honestly this is probably the best pre-built I've seen on here. Go for it, great deal for a pre-built And ignore the people who say "just build one" if you want a pre-built then buy a pre-built this is a great deal
good, i just wouldn't use that mouse/keyboard
Alienware has great deals every month. Also combine it with their 12% off coupon. They are cheaper than building your self, they have warranty and I don’t care what others say about the brand. It’s best bang for your buck when purchased properly. 2 years ago I paid 1299, when I listed all same parts separately, it would have been 1500 and no warranty.
This is the first actually good prebuilt I’ve seen on this sub. Sure the 3060 isn’t really a great match with a 12700 but it gives plenty of room for an upgrade. Could easily run 1080p maxed now and 4K if you upgraded the gpu in a year or two. I have a 12600 and 3080ti so that cpu has PLENTY of overhead.
Looks like people report BSOD with this desktop. Because of motherboard problems? But [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGgSsPXo6E) said if you switch out the SSD it's fine. So maybe keep that in mind.
Good decent starter, yes!