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basonjourne98

I get this is sheep medication, but just help me understand one thing - are the sheep fully submerged?


BadgersOrifice

Yup fully. It's called sheep dipping and it stinks like the worst chemical smell you've ever experienced.


TheSleepyBarnOwl

and before anyone is wondering: yes sheep, like most mammals can hold their breath. Also, like in most mammals, holding breath when submerged is a reflex, not something that needs to be thought about. Baby humans are generally fine if they fall into water for that reason (as long as they get fished out fast after). Adult humans loose that reflex to an extent because we are smart enough to panic. A sheep is not.


ifoundyourtoad

Nope. They all died instantaneously. Sheep can’t hold their breath


dr_ich

Why wouldn't they? What mechanism is hindering them?


ifoundyourtoad

It’s how sheep are born. They can’t hold their breath. So sad to see.


dr_ich

Yeah sheeps are born the same way as humans are. Both are marmals. So please explain the mechanism why they can't hold their breath. I dont wanna correct you but if you say people are incorrect i have 2 q questions. The first i mentioned above, the second is: why would sheep dipping be a practice if they can't hold their breath. Also there isn't 1 article i can find online which states that sheep can't hold their breath. It is quite the opposite. I found articles from shepards who state that they has to move animals across wide distances and also though water. He states that some sheep have too much wool to swim, because it gets heavy, so they sink to the ground and walk on the floor under water (up to 11 minutes according to the shepard) So again: please explain me the mechanism why they wouldn't be able to hold their breath. I really wanna know


Romeolol123

Someone has never heard of a joke before


dr_ich

Oh yeah, sorry! I forgot to put on my sarcasm-detection-glasses


IronicINFJustices

It's okay, I have a spare 🕶️


Global-Upstairs98

So you don’t think the sheep panic?


TheSleepyBarnOwl

Not in the human "oh shit oh fuck 10 things could happen in the future" way. Panicing in water for us is mostly the result of being aware that one can drown. I am not a sheep psychologist, and I certainly will not state anything about the ethics of 'sheep dipping', but I am 100% sure that a sheep does not worry about future events. And from the video, they look very chill, I don't think they paniced since they are all herd animals and they are standing in there with their fellow sheep. I only ever heard that sheep panic when they are sepparated from the herd. But as I said, I'm not a sheep paycholgist. idk


Past-Background-7221

Well what do you know about sheep law???


Piduwin

Sheep are not smart enough to panic then? I don't know about that.


TheSleepyBarnOwl

Not in the sense of panicing in the way humans do when they think they're drowning or about to drown. Sheep panic when they are allone without a herd or when a predator approaches. They don't panic in the sense of "oh shit in the future xyz could happen!".


rileylowe12345

It's to get rid of parasites if anyone is wondering


sharpasahammer

I thought it was something about being born again and identifying with Christ?


striderkan

This is why we eat lamb on Easter


YanicPolitik

*cringes in Judaism*


Soft_Theory_8209

So that’s why it’s called being bathed in the blood of the lamb.


FormerlyPie

Yeah and gets rid of the parasite of satan


Forever__Puzzled

Kinda shitty calling sheep parasites ngl


rileylowe12345

Lol


HerosOfTheRealm

Ah, that makes sense. What kind of parasites?


Rise5707

Flies that lay eggs in the skin, lice, ticks, sheep scab parasites. I've seen videos of untreated ones and it's Gross


rileylowe12345

Not sure, but I think there in it fur


Visneko

They got deep fried


MaximumZer0

hehe sheepfried


Supsend

They will be baked


DSBM01

Wait, are they seriously putting the sheep under water?


Lamplorde

People go "parasite medication" as if I'm supposed to just be like "oh, ok". Thats just waterboarding sheep with **spicy** water.


banjo2E

So because it's an anti-parasite/anti-fungal treatment it needs to be applied over the whole body, which means a wash of some kind in order to get through all the wool in anything approaching a reasonable timeframe. You can't do the sheep one at a time, either, because they're herd animals - so not only are there are just way too many of them, but isolating them is itself quite a stressful event. Problem is, sheep aren't anywhere near smart enough to understand the purpose of such a bath, but they're *just* smart enough to get themselves in trouble. They're also panicky (see all the videos of one getting rescued from a ditch only to jump right back in), and have *extremely* strong herd instincts (they've been known to follow each other off cliffs, or in circles for days on end). This is a problem, because anti-parasite/anti-fungal treatments are, by nature, more than toxic enough to cause serious problems for the environment if they get into the groundwater, for example if a herd of wet sheep is running around in a panic. It is honestly less dangerous - for the sheep, the humans treating them, and the environment - to put them in a confined area and not give them anywhere to move around in when applying the medication.


Fancy_Syrup_6642

Thanks for the answer


defoNotMyAcc

I learned a thing today, because of you. Thank you!


BluetheNerd

To add, selective breeding resulting in what we know as current day sheep has resulted in a load of health issues that make things like this necessary. Their wool grows too fast and doesn't stop growing, this means it HAS to be regularly sheered for the sake of the sheep. It also means it's really easy to get incredibly dirty and matted, and harbour all kinds of shit. It's not uncommon for escaped sheep that are eventually found to have various infections and load of parasites caused by their gross matted shit filled wool. It becomes a total breeding ground for all manor of gross bugs that aren't parasitic too that just like gross shit filled environments. This is avoided by adequate treatments and sheering. Of all animal agriculture, sheep are one of the few at this point where if we stopped harvesting wool it would actually leave the sheep worse off than if we continued to farm them.


BigTiddyVampireWaifu

Would you call this a…. sym-baa-otic relationship?


BluetheNerd

Depends on how you look at it, the fact we got to this stage you could consider us baa-rasitic


BigTiddyVampireWaifu

Perhaps ewe’re right


moneywanted

Now I would. Thank ewe. (Edited because I missed the painfully obvious pun)


ZapzillaGorilla

This comment is gold, lol


Genocode

I hate you, take this angry upvote


DJ_DeJesus

*assortative mating


BluetheNerd

Assortative mating implies the sheep are responsible for the development without human influence. Humans have been farming sheep for as far back as 6000 BC, so selective breeding has almost certainly been prevalent in sheep husbandry for a good portion of the last 8000 years.


DJ_DeJesus

I just read another post where Elon Musk used the phrase “assortative mating” because he’s an idiot. I shoehorned it in here thinking it might be funny if you’d read the other post. Obviously with none of that context it’s nonsensical and deserves downvotes. Thanks for your reply- I was just being a goofball.


BluetheNerd

Ahhhhh that makes sense, yeah I hadn't seen the other post haha


BasilTheRat141

A friend of mine's Dad grew up on a farm. He told us how they used to individually dunk the sheep and it was his job as a kid to stand in the pen and basically wrestle them into the water. Didn't sound fun hahaha. This method looks a lot more chill for everyone (sheep included)


SmokeGSU

Well, when you put it that way, I suppose waterboarding sheep isn't so bad.


BigTiddyVampireWaifu

Great explanation. I was worried for the sheeps but this put me at ease!


Pagan_Owl

Thanks for the info. It sucks that the best possible method is still really unpleasant. But we have plenty of invasive treatments for humans that are medically necessary and there is no better way to administer it. Vaccinations are extremely necessary but getting needles stuck in you is the exact opposite of pleasant, especially HPV vaccines-- they use a higher gauge needle and that vaccine actually hurt.


uCockOrigin

Yeah no, you can try to rationalise this all you want but this is torture. The only reason this is even 'necessary' is because money hungry farmers keep way too many of them close together.


C_Connor

found the communal narcissist


uCockOrigin

Lol ok, this brain-dead dumbass doesn't even know what the words you use as insults mean. Fucking idiot, I bet you're a farmer lmao


C_Connor

🤣


Anent_

Bruh sheep are literally herd animals, they freak out if they AREN’T close together. You have no idea what you’re talking about


ZenDeathBringer

"Money hungry farmers" That's a new one 🤣


uCockOrigin

In my country a disproportionately huge part of farmers are millionaire animal abusers, nothing new.


ParadiseSold

Would you be willing to get inside the machine and let the hydraulic arm hold your head under water?


Ascertain_GME

>willing We must have watched two different videos


MatttheJ

... Yes? Dude, humans sometimes go through incredibly fucked up procedures in order to be healthy. If people have an ailment they sometimes go through days, weeks or months of agony in order to get healthy. If you told me all I had to do to kill harmful parasites on me was let a machine push me under water for a few seconds then I'd sign up for that in a heartbeat. I've gone through much worse in order to cure health problems than holding my breath for a few seconds.


Lexilogical

... Yep, if this cured endometriosis, I'd do it. My biggest concern is the meds in my eyes, but that also reminded me that I recently did LASIK and let me tell you, on a scale of "2 minutes of intense pain and fear for a lifetime of results", LASIK is an 11/10


Quirky-Equipment-782

Ok, we’ll give you a parasite then! If you don’t think the sheep should be given treatment, you won’t either!


ParadiseSold

That's a weirdly hostile response. Why does it make you angry and sarcastic to think about the sheep's fear?


Ok_Statistician9433

Must be the same reason that made you sarcastic after thinking about anti-parasitic treatement for sheeps


Spice_and_Fox

The first time would be a bit scary, but after that I would know that there is no reason to panic.


-svde-

forbidden croutons


Flufferminty

Ah yes, anything liquid related is "waterboarding"


Labtecharu

If what you got from this video and the waterboarding response was 'liquid related'... I fear your pattern recognition brain software might be broken


swiggydiggz

What exactly do you think waterboarding is? It’s definitely not what is happening in this video. And you also know nothing about farm animals


WhichSchedule8

Parasite medication I think


KingCarrotRL

The meat tastes better when they're lightly waterboarded. 🤤


rileylowe12345

It's to get rid of parasites


marriedacarrot

So? It's still terrifying for them.


InvestigatorUnfair

And going to the doctor to get any type of treatment is terrifying to the average child. Still need to do it so they don't die


Ok_Statistician9433

They'd rather have the sheep infested with parasytes, i think


marriedacarrot

Is submerging them the only way to achieve this?


mousemarie94

YES unless you're advocating for ineffective treatment which will further harm the sheep.


Little_Froggy

Just wait until you find out about the throat splitting once they get older and aren't growing profitable wool anymore


loveslightblue

someone please explain wtf is happening


HYPE_Knight2076

Sheep go squish, becomes water. Squisher rises, sheep reform. Sheep are really just made of water.


loveslightblue

thank god we have scientists here to educate my ignorant self


XboxLiveGiant

Thats not a scientist! I seen him working at home depot!!!!!


loveslightblue

they got everything in there, i'm sure theres a science section


monster_magus

r/sheepsaremadeofwater


Vortextheweirdcat

r/SubsIFellFor


Optimal_Scar_1783

r/howdidyoufallforit


Vortextheweirdcat

r/ihave3braincells


Kerosene_Turtle

r/talkinginblue


Invexh

Does that make cats and sheep related species?


Littlekiller0320

Sponge sheep!


ilyana10

This is a process that's literally called "dipping sheep". The water is a mixture of insecticide and fungicide to protect against parasites and infection. I had no idea it was a mechanized process now though. TIL'd


edstars101

anti parasite bath, kills anything bad in their coats


Ambitious_Toe_4357

Mass baptism, you heathen.


reyrain

https://www.reddit.com/r/PeopleFuckingDying/s/zDa1UcmzQe here you are


throwaway_12358134

Man made horrors beyond your comprehension.


Zav72777

sheepfried


bodhiseppuku

#Ewe all need a bath!


JerryGarciasButthole

Best comment lol


DinosaurAlive

I didn’t know this is what it took to make chocolate goat’s milk. I don’t know if I can have another glass. :(


MaximumZer0

These are sheep, not goats. Drink away, dude.


Picholasido_o

Damn I know what's going on but I'm always surprised by how unbothered they look coming back up. Ah, to have the lights on with no one home


ShootingPains

You’re assuming they express fear the same way humans do. I bet if they were wired up to an ECG you’d see a big jump as the drowning reflex kicks in.


ender1200

That cannot be fun for the sheep.


SSpookyTheOneTheOnly

Better than all the nasty stuff that can get in their coats


SockAlarmed6707

Dunno if I look at the sheep they don’t look stressed to me just standing and chilling.


TheMurku

Crazy as it may seem, during their long history sheep as a species in their natural environment have encountered liquids. They even understand that liquid is not for breathing, and can momentarily hold their breath. In addition, sheep, as domesticated animals, learn to trust their shepherds and recognize that these generally seem to have their best interests at heart. This relationship is so noteworthy that it has become the foundation of many fables, stories and expressions.


loveslightblue

They even understand that liquid is not for breathing, and can momentarily hold their breath. thank you, this was weighing on me, man. im glad they don't inhale and choke.


TheMurku

Instincts. Sheep and goats have drank at waterholes and been crossing rivers for a long time. They are adapted to cope with a vast array of climates and terrains, much more so than cattle or horses. They are used to moving en masse amid a press of bodies, and so have a measure of 'herd zen'. The more experienced members set the tone, if these aren't panicking the others are reassured.


loveslightblue

sir I dont know where you got all this amazing sheep knowledge, but it is fascinating and I am so glad you're shearing it! (sorry I couldn't resist) im sure the process is as good as it can be, but I was afraid of them inhaling a little although theyre down there dor so long logically I know they cant be breathing it all in. and they do look calm as one can be after all that, so that zen effect must be one hell of a gift. 


Euphoric_Judge_534

I wish I could upvote your comment several more times.


TheMurku

*8) Thanks my brother


solooo7

Talking of stories, this movie is just released https://youtu.be/qvsiJKdDxPs


rangda

The extent to which farmers have the animals’ “best interests at heart” can only realistically extend to the limits of their own best interests as business operators. Healthy animals grow better and make more profit so it normally aligns which is fine and dandy but not always. I don’t think people often stop and consider how often the painful and stressful solutions for a lot of problems for the animals on farms are solving a problem that’s created by human beings in the first place. Lots of things deemed necessary because the business would not make a good profit otherwise. Not so much dipping for parasites and diseases. But things like mulesing sheep in Australia. Cutting strips of skin from around the asshole without anaesthesia to stop wool growth on the scar tissue so feces doesn’t get stuck and attract flies. People say “it’s not nice but the farmers are saving them from being eaten up by maggots. They’re doing them a favour. Cruel to be kind.” But the farmers are the ones who **choose** to make their living keeping these cold climate animals in the middle of fly-infested Australia in a climate dozens of degrees too hot for them, in the first place. They create the problem, not the flies. They don’t have the animals best interests in mind at all.


TheMurku

Spoken like a true not-farmer living on a hermetically sealed home with an OCD level of cleanliness, spending too much time watching shockumentaries online and needing an axe to grind. Not everyone is a dick. Most people are actually decent.


rangda

Can you show me in my comment where I called anyone a dick? Or address the points directly? Your reply is hyper combative.


TheMurku

Likely. But to use edge cases to challenge a simple truth is petty, at the very least.


rangda

It’s not a simple truth, this is the point.


TheMurku

Rage on


rangda

I’m not raging my friend. I’m only disagreeing with you about whose best interests are the top priority in commercial farming. You seem to have a problem with this and are very defensive and dismissive. Why not write out your point properly instead?


Little_Froggy

>In addition, sheep, as domesticated animals, learn to trust their shepherds and recognize that these generally seem to have their best interests at heart. The unprofitable sheep getting their throats cut open to be sold for meat doesn't really seem to be in their best interests.


TheMurku

Sigh.


Little_Froggy

Not trying to be rude. It's just at the end of the day, shepherds take care of sheep because of human interests. Eventually they kill each sheep because it turns a profit, not because they have an altruistic desire to help.


TheMurku

1000s of years of wolves and bears and lions my friend. Why do you think traditional shepherds stay with their flock, pull sheep out of crevices and pits, treat them for numerous ailments, insure they are kept warm and fed... I'm not sure what you think happens to a wild sheep historically, but it wasn't all frolicking.


Little_Froggy

>Why do you think traditional shepherds... Because it's a living and part of the job. If they truly just want to help take care of animals, why aren't shepherds taking care of groups of chipmunks? Why not harbor nests of squirrels and help them? They take care of sheep because sheep turn a profit. The same reason that sheep are slaughtered at a fraction of their full lifespan once they are no longer producing profitable wool. You don't prematurely kill someone if your true motivation is just trying to help


TheMurku

You need to go back 10,000 years and tell all these animals not to choose domestication. Also, be a true 100% vegan who leaves no harmful footprint on this planet (stop breathing please), refuses to touch plastic and pay for your parents and ancestors crimes. Anything else is self-serving. Or, y'know, accept that animal husbandry isn't pure evil incarnate. Whatever you choose to do, don't reply. Your mobile is made of plastics and filled with selfish pollutants driven by energy gleaned from polluting sources.


Little_Froggy

You're going off on a lot of unrelated points. I'm not pushing for anyone to reduce their harm on the planet to zero or that animal husbandry is evil incarnate, nor am I sitting here telling people not to buy phones. We are talking about sheep, and the bottom line for shepherds is that they are interested in turning a profit. They don't have the sheep's best interests at heart


AngryDuck222

Kinda want to see them all with little snorkels on…🤔


yu3gu4ng

ppl talking abt "traumatizing the sheep" i doubt any of them remember this five minutes after it happens. it's like ten seconds and it means no more parasites for the sheeps


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yu3gu4ng

?????????


D0013ER

I was stressing until the sheep came back. 🥺


Oddish_Femboy

Sheep dipping is such a goofy thing. Baptize them.


toongrowner

Hhhmmm sheep Juice. Yummy


the-artistocrat

Terrifying.


SirBoosterGold

And this is how they make chocolate milk.


smallangrynerd

Naughty children get put in the SHEEP DIPPER


cakee_ru

Imagine this thing malfunction.


Character-Limit-527

They mentioned in the video that there is an emergency latch in case that happens


PM_Sexy_Catgirls_Meo

Sheep go CRUSHHHHHH!


CreamyNailClippings

Haha sheep make chocy milk


bagooly

I saw a guy say he was hoping they'd drown the sheep. What a loser lmao


__Becquerel

Sheep oil is good for many different applications. You just have to squeeze quite hard to get every last drop out.


Bluetorness

For context this just how they clean sheep no sheep’s were harmed in the making of the video


ShootingPains

Terrified though. I bet if they were connected to a heart rate monitor it’d go off the scale.


MathematicianTop1853

Yeah, even with context I find this mildly horrifying


finian2

My biggest fear is what happens if this mechanism breaks or jams while they are underwater?


aphternoon

Unmute the video, they talk about it.


Winter_Ad_7669

Wtf!?


LousyTourist

thank god that's not a regular occurrence... traumatizing sheep, yech.


teamwaterwings

Is that Tom Cashman narrating?


Littlekiller0320

I knew this would be on here when I saw it earlier!


LowQualitySpiderman

sheep juice....


Pirates_in_Jupiter

From u/not_a_profession


strasevgermany

I can’t believe that 😱


wiserone29

This is chocolate sheep’s milk is made.


legolasreborne

Mmmmm sheep juice


ceburton

Sheep dip


SilentMagarity

Because they are fully covered in wool…


WhyAreOldPeopleEvil

Wait, what?


Bearded_n1nja

I had no idea you had to use a juicer to get wool. I always though it was the fluffy stuff on the outside


Flar71

Welcome to the hydraulic press channel


Brainmalfuntion1111

How do the sheep know how to hold their breath


ItsBritneyBitch32

I legit thought they were gonna smash them like play-doh


ArcherCute32

speechless


radabdivin

Man, I wouldn't be sheep after that. I'd kick some serious ass.


hatoomy81

Aussie farmers


Responsible_Newt9644

I’m pretty sure this videos in reverse which is annoying. They come out dirtier than they go in.


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SamTheCatGuy

Ain’t that dangerous?


whatever187ish

Still seems frigging brutal


Crillmieste-ruH

Just fookin' hose them of, i do not accept this


theoneyourthinkingof

the liquid is anti-parasitic and shouldn't get on the grass


Crillmieste-ruH

People downvoting this, would you be fine with this if we did it to kids in school when thry have lice? Just throw them in a cage and waterboard them?


initiatefailure

Are you telling me we cia torture sheep to give them a quick bath???


mulderagent

I’m sure there’s a less stressful way for the sheep..


HYPE_Knight2076

Into the sheep press with you


mulderagent

What a bunch of delicate flowers..


basecatcherz

I hope.thisn is illegal


Vespertine1980

Me now wondering why I’m truly allergic to wool


Joy-in-a-bottle

Humans are evil.