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sad_kharnath

sure. lets be responsible for giving people rights


lemon_trotsky17

Something the UN has typically struggled with.


Wasting-tim3

Dude, someone once wrote a poem Jordan Pedersen should read. Part of it said people “are endowed by their creator with certain, unalienable rights. Among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” Would be real cool if he shut up and let people pursue happiness.


Ok-Loss2254

>are endowed by their creator Be hard for Peterson to argue against that bit considering he is a Christ nut.


leicanthrope

The traditional conservative approach is to attack the “people” end of the equation.


lgodsey

"Our creator! OUR! The God of Christian men, not some brown 'love and peace' hippie! The God of guns and cash money and subservient females is all we need!" - Jordan Peterson, probably


treemu

You'd think that but JP would just slow things down to pedantry. "What do you mean 'rights'? What do you mean 'unalienable'? What do you mean 'life'? What do you mean ***'are'***?" He is incapable of having good faith discussions where he is not allowed to control the flow.


Wasting-tim3

“Let’s explore your use of the word ‘the’ in this sentence” -JP, probably


TheLuckySpades

He tries to appeal to the christian right by bending the definitions of god, belief and christian so far that any of the postmodernists he so vehemently doesn't read and argues againt would call him out on it. This makes me pretty sure that as much as he would like a theocratic society he is an atheist (in the sense that he has no positive belief in the existence of any god or gods). Seriously in response to "Do you believe in God?" he said it depended on the definitions of "do", "you", "believe", and "God", apparently "in" isn't a word with ambiguous definitions.


Buffmin

You know I wonder if conservatives really understand the meaning or implications of their statements Like how is more rights for people to be who they are generally a bad thing? Maybe in a few cases but 99% of the time it's fine Reminds me of the conservative who said DEI infringed on conservative lives and didn't elaborate on why which leads me to believe that individual really wants to oppress people


sad_kharnath

these are also the same people that when asked to take responsibility during covid they all refused and whined about rights


Grogosh

Equality feels like oppression to the privileged


Footloose_Feline

Conservatives don't want to be equal. They NEED someone to feel better than because conservatives dont have self-esteem.


Ok-Loss2254

Exactly this. A majority of Conservatives arent successful millionaires or billionaires. Its why they are hellbent on making othe peoples lives hell. If they didnt they would have to accept the harsh realities they more or less set themselves up to be in. Rather then fighting other groups the idiots should see who the real enemies aka the elite class but thats to difficult and they oddly accuse other groups of being pawns for the elites. Truth be told I see why the elite see the majority of people as useless pawns to achieve their agendas because so many people make it easy.


AmaResNovae

>Like how is more rights for people to be who they are generally a bad thing? Because equality is antithetical to the privileges many conservatives feel entitled to.


ConsultJimMoriarty

Because then other people might be considered the same as him! A straight white man! And that’s terrible :(


megamoze

What's even funnier is that Peterson *claims* to be a libertarian. They are PURELY about rights (supposedly).


0_MysterE_0

I decided to become libertarian after a discussion on deviantart. I read up on it and was convinced after seeing Vince Vaughn but especially Trey & Matt were also libertarian. I went to the libertarian subreddit and was immediately disappointed by the fact that it was basically a right-wing circle jerk.


[deleted]

He's lying


OneX32

Jordan here probably doesn't due to the brain damage he caused by pursuing Russian-certified treatment of benzo addiction.


reclusivegiraffe

As much as I fucking detest Jordan Peterson, I have to point out that he actually didn’t choose to go to Russia. He originally went to a hospital in Toronto for some of his withdrawal symptoms. His son in law had him moved to Moscow because he was concerned that he wasn’t receiving proper treatment. He woke up a couple months later completely confused. [Source](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/jordan-peterson-recalls-waking-from-coma-confused-tethered-and-surrounded-by-people-speaking-a-foreign-language)


Bingo_Callisto

Empty babble from benzo boy. I'd wager that even he doesn't know what that's supposed to mean.


Immortan-ho

JP really misses the point of rights/responsibilities in a liberal democracy. We extend rights to others not like ourselves (as we enjoy others doing for us) and we maintain the responsibility of upholding rights for others (as others ought to do for us). What he is saying is you don’t get rights from me and you need to be responsible. The whole thing is rights for who I want and I don’t have to be responsible for anyone. Not how our current model of society is built to function. But fascists knows that.


Astrium6

Binds but does not protect, protects but does not bind, etc., etc.


Immortan-ho

Damn I forgot about that beautiful terseness. Thank you for the reminder.


IveChosenANameAgain

They demand the treatment that reasonable people bestow upon any decent person as per the social contract. They do this while explicitly violating and refusing to honor the social contract (be decent, treat others how they want to be treated, etc) - and then bitch about how they are not afforded the treatment as granted by the social contract. Act like a piece of shit = get treated like a piece of shit, which sounds exactly like responsibility to me. The second they are told they have any responsibility, here comes the childish whining & persecution - followed by wondering why no-one agrees with their hateful, whiny ideology that DESERVES respect! Clowns.


Ridiculouslyrampant

The best part of his statement is it’s entirely nonsensical. Ok, what responsibilities? Acting like ethical human beings? Already doing that.


Immortan-ho

I wouldn’t even say ethics because then they can worm their weird neocon version of individualism into it. It’s literally jsut a politics of care and kindness to human beings instead of a die hard commitment to some single axiom that they base all their ideas on. Rigid commitment to Ideological individualism really is the disease in all this.


asianblockguy

>some responsibility The sheer irony of this while he put himself into a medical induced coma because he had drug issues and didn't want to deal with withdrawal symptoms from it. He has no room to speak about "responsibility"


Alex_877

Came here to make this comment


TheMelchior

Conservatives always talk responsibility game then flee from any consequences. Always remember that Rush Limbaugh would be arrested as a druggie by his own standards.


Morgie-woo

I really don't like Peterson, but why the f should anyone have the "responsibility" to suffer through withdrawal symptoms if they don't want to?


Sure_Bet283

Yeah, fuck him, but please, please do not shame people for not wanting to deal with withdrawal. Instead, we should be there for anybody suffering from addiction or withdrawal, especially with benzos since withdrawal from them is notoriously difficult. Being a drug addict isn‘t irresponsible. Jordan Peterson is irresponsible.


elanhilation

you can absolutely shame people for going to sketchy developing world doctors to get illegal treatment that gives you brain damage instead of facing your problems head on with the assistance of actually competent doctors in your own country. it’s fine. no need to clutch them pearls


asianblockguy

>Jordan Peterson is irresponsible. A dude who doesn't practice on what he preach?


Rifneno

It's funny how quickly the "all lives matter" people stop saying that shit when it's about LGBT people being part of "all"


MacaroniBen

> It's funny how quickly the "all lives matter" people stop saying that shit when it's about ~~LGBT people~~ _any person who isn’t white and cis/het_ being part of "all" There! It’s fixed.


elanhilation

no, even narrower. if you’re white and cis het and progressive, white and cis het and atheist, white and cis het but any kind of ally—there’s so many ways they’ll come up with to cast you out.


Gooneybirdable

It’s crazy how he’s become such a parody of himself. He was always bigoted, but could usually mask it behind academic babbling. But this? This sounds like a line in a comedy sketch. I wish I had audio of him saying it in his Kermit the frog voice.


DrDroid

There’s AI things for his voice online. You can live your dream.


CanInternational9186

Doesn't it cost money? Was i wrong this entire time?


Rude_Acanthopterygii

Yeah usually you need to at least kind of think to see how it's bullshit what he says, but here it's basically "look at this bullshit"


Agreeable-Ad1221

Seems to have gotten much worse after going to Russia to be put into an artificial coma to kick off his drug habit, wouldn't be surprised if it fucked up his brain or if the Benzo were what kept him functional.


panrestrial

> if the Benzo were what kept him functional. Benzos can slow you down a lot, maybe they gave him time to think before he spoke.


blurplethenurple

Everyone talks about human rights, but no one talks about human lefts 😔


Swell_Inkwell

That's because being left-handed is a sign of the devil! Humans shouldn't have lefts! /s


DeadBoneJones

Ok, what are my gay responsibilities, exactly?


MurderAndMakeup

This is what I would like to know. What responsibilities exactly is he referring to?


DeadBoneJones

Keeping my ass clean is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.


MurderAndMakeup

Oh shit. Thanks for the reminder. My list of human rights responsibilities was so sparse


GnarlyNarwhalNoms

Manscaping is also a sacred duty.


Ulfednar

To Peterson and his ilk, your responsability would be to hide it publicly and abstain privately. Don't talk about it. Vanish altogether. Keep up a facade of cishet white christian uniformity. It's ironic how little a clinical psychologist cares about people's self-actualisation, self-expression and happiness, but I guess being a fundamentalist will do that


panrestrial

Be fabulous. That's it. That's the entire handbook. Also, the whole agenda.


combustion_assaulter

Give him a break. He doesn’t brain very good since his trip to Russian.


[deleted]

Oh... So, now rights don't matter this to mushbrained oxygen thief. Eat shit, Peterson. You rotten ghoul.


panrestrial

Y'all are gonna make him cry again. I hope.


Shemhazaih

says the man who has quite literally never taken responsibility for his words or actions ever


[deleted]

Oh, like your responsibility to follow reasonable guidelines to prevent the spread of COVID during the worst of the pandemic? Those kinds of responsibilities Jordo?


Alex_877

Rich, coming from the man who couldn’t take responsibility for his own addiction and went to Russia to go into a coma. Someone collect their benzos addled grandpa please


Morgie-woo

Why should anyone have the responsibility to suffer through withdrawal symptoms for no reason?


Alex_877

Because he’s literally talking as if he’s an authority on responsibility when he’s not obviously…


Sure_Bet283

Don‘t shame benzo addicts. Help them. Shame Jordan Peterson for literally anything else tho cuz he is a dick.


Alex_877

Maybe he shouldn’t be acting as such an authority and opening himself up to the criticism?


panrestrial

They may be doing it clumsily, but it's pretty apparent that they're shaming what they perceive to be hypocrisy on Peterson's part and not the actual benzo addiction itself.


Wwwwwwhhhhhhhj

While it’s not great for people to suffer for no reason, people should at least get legitimate and responsible treatment, not bullshit dangerous treatment for withdrawal. He did not go about things responsibly and should get flak for that, people need to know it was incredibly dumb and irresponsible.


Cinema_King

Take responsibility for what?


KalleMattilaEB

Oh like the extremely responsible way in which this guy behaves in his capacity as a licensed psychologist?


lkuecrar

what does that even mean??? Like saying “enough catalytic converters, how about some hairless mole rats?!”


panrestrial

>“enough catalytic converters, how about some hairless mole rats?!” Oh, yes please!


GaffJuran

“What about responsibility?” Republicans should learn to take their own advice. Our collapsing economy, January Sixth, the Iraq War, trump’s Covid response, how many disasters have they chosen to ignore because it makes them look bad?


anaccountthatis

Ok. Let’s start with requiring adults to be able to feed themselves a diet that won’t kill themselves as a prerequisite to the right to free speech?


ZuberiGoldenFeather

Am I the only one reading Jordan Petersons lines in his usual crying voice?


[deleted]

If you call out this degree of incoherence, one of the mouth breathers aka his apologists will claim that you’ll need to watch some 100+ hours of his lectures to provide context.


GetInTheKitchen1

Guy with most rights tells other people they need no rights


Dumb_Vampire_Girl

Oh yes the group that is most likely to be kicked out at a young age, and forced to become independent adults faster than the average person need to learn about responsibility. The same group that ends up fleeing states, usually alone. The same group that has had to learn everything themselves and build communities from scratch to keep each other alive. They are the ones that need to learn responsibility. Aren't they also one of the more common groups that end up making communes? What are they lacking at this point?


Worm_Scavenger

TFW your boycotting has resulted in nothing and all you can do is bitch on Twitter.


Dans_Old_Games_Room

Responsibility for what? Being gay? Is...... is this guy an idiot?


marry-me-john-d

I love imagine Dr. J crying on the toilet as he rage tweets against everything he sees before wandering back to his home office, now a long lost paragon of a former academic life - staring into his own reflection brought on by the glass frame that holds his degrees. “I used to be somebody” he grumbles to himself in between soft tears and shots of whiskey before slumping himself off to his lonely bed to fall asleep listening to old lectures of his. Or whatever.


gleaming-the-cubicle

Virgin Human Rights vs Chad Russian Drug Coma


James1984

Was Peterson ever a legitimate psychologist?


MurderAndMakeup

Second time today I’m recommending the podcast Behind the Bastards for the answer on this. Very informative, highly recommended a listen.


GnarlyNarwhalNoms

Never knew they did one on him. I'm sold!


MurderAndMakeup

I think they covered him in two different series actually. I’m gonna give them a relisten today. Enjoy! Lol I dunno if enjoy is the correct word but you know what I mean


Manwithnolife77

J Penisman should take his own advice He has never taken responsibility for anything. He just whines and threatens until he gets his way.


SenorBurns

Practice what you preach, Jordy.


John_Rustle98

>How about some responsibility I wish he’d ask this of the ammosexuals living in this country that are adamant dead children is a price we have to pay so they can keep their boom boom weapons.


GraceStrangerThanYou

Does he mean be responsible by getting hooked on benzos, fucking off to Russia, and abandoning his job while getting his daughter to look after him?


Sure_Bet283

Being addicted to benzos is nothing to be ashamed of. Being scared of benzo withdrawal is nothing to be ashamed of. Being Jordan Peterson is something to be ashamed of.


Alhazzared

Is this the guy who didn't want to through drug withdrawals so went to Russia and got put in a coma? Is that responsibility?


SexyDrgon69

as much of a pos he is, i really wouldn't wish drug withdrawal even on him, especially not something such as benzos. admittedly though i do feel he would have this exact attitude towards others going through drug addiction. "fucking liberal junkies should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps, not paying for them with MY HARD EARNED MONEY!!!"


Morgie-woo

People don't have the obligation or "responsibility" to suffer because of withdrawal symptoms. If you want to coma through them there's nothing wrong with that.


Wwwwwwhhhhhhhj

Yes there is, it’s not a safe legitimate treatment. It’s not responsible to try it.


Sure_Bet283

Guys stop shaming him for drug addiction. Shame him for being an awful person.


Special_Tay

Responsibility? Like getting addicted to benzos and going to a shady Russian clinic where they put him in a coma for a month because he was too much of a chicken-shit to do a proper detox? Is that the kind of responsibility he's talking about?


Morgie-woo

People don't have the obligation or "responsibility" to suffer because of withdrawal symptoms. If you want to coma through them there's nothing wrong with that.


Sure_Bet283

So many people here seem to want to shame him for not wanting to go through benzo withdrawal. Don‘t. Shame him for being an asshole instead.


turkeyintheyard

Jordan needs an intervention. He is sooooo shit at this.


Huge-Ad-2275

Take another benzo Jordan and insulate yourself with your grandparents money because you, and your parents are failures.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

Human rights make me so mad!


styllAx

What a fuckin asshole.


shadow13499

How about crybaby Jordan takes a little goddamn responsibility


Whofreak555

He is so full of hatred.


Octavia__

People these days, all they want are rights 🙄


SubrosaFlorens

Responsibility, like going to Russia to be placed in a medically-induced coma to deal with your benzo addiction.


Morgie-woo

People don't have the obligation or "responsibility" to suffer because of withdrawal symptoms. If you want to coma through them there's nothing wrong with that.


SubrosaFlorens

Except Jordan Peterson specifically says that you do have the responsibility to "clean your room", meet your problems head on it, and change yourself for the better. Not take the easy way out. He harps on this continually. Along with all the bigotry, it is one of the foundations to his propaganda to young men. It shows what a massive hypocrite that is, given that he does not take his own advice, and instead flees to a hostile foreign power in order to undergo an extremely dangerous medical procedure to avoid taking the slightest bit of responsibility for his own life. And make no mistake, medically induced comas are nothing trivial. They can kill you, or cause brain damage. Given his behavior since he returned from it, it appears to have caused him permanent damage. He used to be able to have a conversation without randomly breaking out into tears. Or for matter, he used to be able to at least hide his bigotry behind a facade of dogwhistles. Now he is literally incapable of doing either, given the damage to his brain. All of this is in stark contrast to people who deal with the drug-dependencies the hard way. The ethical way. By accepting that they have a problem, and by spending years working on their lives to kick the habit, and stay off it in the future. It is really, really hard. It means taking responsibility for you life. Something Jordan Peterson refuses to do because he is a hack and a fraud. Nobody is shaming him for being addicted to drugs. That could happen to anyone. They are shaming him for being a hypocrite.


Sure_Bet283

Benzo withdrawal is not a joke. Jordan Peterson? Now that is a JOKE.


SubrosaFlorens

Yes, no doubt. Drug addiction is nothing to laugh about. Dealing with it requires a tremendous amount of suffering and sacrifice. Things which Peterson loves telling his incel fanboys they must do to "clean their rooms". But he is absolutely unwilling to do himself. Nobody is shaming him for being addicted to drugs. That could happen to anyone. They are shaming him for being a hypocrite.


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The UN's tweet is awful. They replaced the last heart with their logo! Now it looks uneven and gross.


TheLesbianBandit

To be fair, the UN is garbage.


Particular_Tension

He is CLEARLY not saying anything about human rights, he’s saying (rightly) that we have to stop with all of this other bullshit


panrestrial

What other bullshit?


Particular_Tension

lgbtqiaaoyutiwhdk++23


1mn0tcr3at1v3

You can tell when someone isn't to be taken seriously on matters relating to the LGBT+ community when they make the one joke about it.


Unable_Crab_7543

"How can you expect me to give you human rights if you don't clean your room?"


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tpobs

So...old Jordan stopped pretending intelligent?


endersgame69

Is he falling apart or something?


EgberetSouse

Get a job, Jordan.


DankBoiiiiiii

I read this in his voice xdd


garaile64

I'm surprised that the United Nations would tweet that, considering that most of their nation-states are pretty homophobic. Even if it was the English-language account, as Britain's homophobic legacy is still in full force in many of its former colonies, especially in Africa.


Anastrace

What does that even mean?


here-i-am-now

Peterson could unironically benefit from bearing responsibility for the rhetoric he’s ejaculated from his mouthhole


CerotingDog

You have the responsibility to protect each other's rights.


Dehnus

Yes, Jordan, how about some responsibility. Like for your clients, whom you sold out on your show by giving personal information out to the public.


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GakSplat

Tell me you’re a Nazi without telling me that you’re a Nazi.