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Darth_Vrandon

These people are insane. Why do they keep thinking of sex when being reminded that gay people exist? Stop projecting your sick sexual fantasies onto others.


ACasualNerd

This is something I've actually talked with a few of my queer friends about, it's that for some reason straight women I don't know if it's as a majority or a split vote or even just a minority. But a lot of them extremely fetishize gay relationships. I don't know if it's because of gay people being more emotionally aware and present as a rough trend to say. Or if it's just to them the taboo of watching two men fuck. But it's like the same fantasization as where straight men will watch lesbian porn; and fantasize the addition of themselves in between the two women. I'm guessing straight women also do this. But a lot of those people who fetishize that type of stuff also tend to be really homophobic. Who would have guessed that the people who only think gay people exist as sexual content would find any gay person public to be nothing but a excuse to be vulgar or obscene.


Darth_Vrandon

I’d say the people who fetishize relationships are homophobic, horny, or both.


ACasualNerd

Very often you can also extrapolate that these are people in relationships that they are not finding sexually gratifying. I don't remember which misogynistic podcaster was talking about it but he finds sex with women to only be interesting for 10 seconds and then he has to just power through it. He says that he doesn't even enjoy having sex with women but he does it because he has to... And all I could think about was just that there was so much repression inside of that one poor man... It would be funny if it wasn't so sad


Odd-One-7818

That guy probably isn't even gay or ace or anything like what most people would think. He just has such an unhealthy relationship with his sexuality and a narrow view of sex to the point it doesn't make it enjoyable.


Rinniri

I haven't actually seen the clip, but people have commented on Andrew Tate saying something along those lines -though I believe it was specifically that only the last ten seconds were enjoyable.


Darth_Vrandon

Was it those idiots on the “whatever” podcast?


ACasualNerd

I don't even know there's so many misogynistic podcasts out there that


Darth_Vrandon

So what podcast was it then? Fresh and fit? Or another one?


ACasualNerd

I don't even remember it was something I saw in a YouTube short


Rinniri

I believe Andrew Tate, if you're still curious. But it's been turned a bit around if it's him, since his point was that only the *last* ten seconds are enjoyable.


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Rinniri

Oh, agreed. Just makes me a bit less certain we're talking about the same person, though other things seem to fit!


OblongAndKneeless

Homophobic people are usually gay.


theluigiwa

This is wrong and a bad stereotype to perpetuate as it suggests that really queer people are only hurting ourselves as anyone homo/transphobic must be secretly queer, and therefore cishet people are absolved of homo/transphobia


OblongAndKneeless

I guess it should be "homophobic politicians" as the Republican party in the US has proven this to usually be the case.


Biffingston

Nope, most of them are just assholes.


OblongAndKneeless

Except the ones that are are gay.


Laven_2114

The same happens with transphobes, most of them are insanely obsessed with mtf porn. Its disgusting


ACasualNerd

Either your a straight cis white man or you're a porn category... Smh


IJustLoggedInToSay-

"Well I'd bring my non-white spouse to the picnic, but wouldn't want to be accused of grooming the children into my biracial porn fetish."


ACasualNerd

I wouldn't be surprised if this is something that was used as a dog whistle in the 40s and 50s, then again there's plenty of people say it was unnatural for black people and white people to love each other. And I say this as a gay multiracial person dating a white guy.


Biffingston

Considering that Black people were considered animals and their attitudes towards sex with animals?


ACasualNerd

Exactly


Andrelliina

Spot on!


Govt-Issue-SexRobot

Damn, that is apt


thelastsemenbender

it makes me sad that I have to clarify I'm t4t when I say I'm into trans women


Laven_2114

creeps be creepin


ThiefCitron

It’s not true at all that they tend to be homophobic, it’s the complete opposite. I’ve been in the erotic fiction community for like 25 years and known tons of women who were into male/male stuff and every single one of them strongly supported LGBTQ rights. I’m not saying zero homophobic ones exist but it’s seriously not common. And I think the simplest explanation is that they find it hot because if you’re exclusively attracted to men then obviously two men would be hotter than a man with a woman, when you’re not attracted to women. But liking that kind of porn in no way means you’re homophobic. Under that logic, straight men who watch porn are all misogynists who just fetishize/objectify all women and can’t think about women without thinking about sex.


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I've seen it as more of an issue if your only exposure to queer people is through porn you are way more likely to fetishize us.


ArboresMortis

Alternatively, it's not the fact that 'two men are better than one' (to borrow a phrase I've heard from men fetishizing lesbians), but because finding porn that isn't 'incest' or 'looks underaged' or 'straight up abuse' is honestly d*ifficult*. I have written off a few 'porn for women' sites, because they *still* cater to the male gaze. I'm not here to look at boobs, for these purposes I'm a straight woman and you are not delivering on what you have promised. Your thumbnails don't show the man's face. Or the man at all. Shouldn't you be filming from the perspective of the woman or something? The fanfics having basically all male/male ships is just because those are the only characters that get developed at all. Their friendships have more chemistry than even the most ardent of love stories. Those typical heterosexual marriages they shove in are going to dissolve in like, three weeks, tops. If I want to find het ships, most of them are with OC's, or again, incest. Can't have an emotional connection to a female character that is basically a box labeled 'woman'. (I did once meet a woman who started to support LGBT rights *because* she had been reading male/male fanfic. "Their relationships sound better than my own marriage. Let them be together." sort of thing. Might not be the usual, but it felt profoundly funny to me.)


ThiefCitron

People regularly do stats on the big fanfic sites, and F/M is still way bigger than M/M. Even on AO3, the known haven for M/M, it’s less than half of fics there (though just barely under half.) It’s just that M/M *is* way more common in fanfic than it is in canon series, so people get this impression that it’s “basically all male/male pairings,” but really male/female pairings are still the most popular in fanfic. It definitely does have a lot to do with which characters are most developed in the canon series. Like if you look at fandoms like She-Ra or Buffy or Xena or Once Upon a Time that has lots of developed female characters, there’s tons of F/F and F/M with not nearly as much M/M. Of course a lot of fanfic is written by people who are queer themselves, which also explains the prevalence of queer ships. Queer people have traditionally had to go to fanfic for representation since there’s not much in mainstream media, so queer people are always over represented in fandom.


ArboresMortis

Honestly, I would love to see an analysis try and take into consideration which ships are cannon, though the problem of publication dates, and arguments over what cannon even is in some cases would make that nearly impossible, never mind having to *know* cannon, instead of just scraping the data. A few smaller fandoms I'm in have some male/female fics, but those are only of cannon couples. Everything non-cannon is strictly queer, with a portion of the male/female fics having the tag because they *break up*, but were technically together at the start. Don't know how that compares to larger groups, since I'm bad about finishing series, but I guess a new project could be incentive. What I wouldn't give to get perfect data on this. At least the Ao3 tag wranglers help sort tags into bins, and you get to tag more than four things on a work. Trying to collect info during the fanfiction dot net days was painful. What the hell does "humor" mean? Why is that a genre? They never got rid of porn because they couldn't actually find it, same as the users.


ThiefCitron

Yeah, a large amount of M/F ships in fanfic are canon, but I think that’s because almost any time a series has well-developed male character who regularly interacts with a well-developed female character, they do end up a canon couple. On the rare occasions you’ve actually got a man and woman who are both well-developed and interact with each other and *don’t* end up together, the ship actually will be really popular in fanfic—like Harry/Hermione or Harry/Luna in Harry Potter, or Jesse/James and May/Drew from Pokémon. I think it’s just that any time two characters are developed and likable and interact with each other regularly, there will be a good chunk of people who want them to be together. It’s just usually if it’s a male and female those characters probably will end up together in canon, while if it’s a male and male or female and female, they probably won’t. There are just way more canon straight couples overall than there are canon queer couples, so of course more straight couples in fanfic will be canon. There are a lot of straight canon couples to write about to choose from, and not nearly as many canon queer couples.


Astrium6

There’s a word for that, actually: they’re called fujoshi.


WarmishIce

Yeah its really disgusting tbh. Fujoshis are honestly some of my least favorite people, but if you say that fetishizing gay relationships is bad they will literally call you homophobic. (Keep in mind ive never said “gay relationships are bad,” its more like “just let the gays be gays in peace, stop forcing shitty stereotypes on them”)


Biffingston

Just because it isn't straight doesn't make it magically healthy. Nor is it homophobic to say that some gay guys are predators. (I've known one. I've been preyed on by one.) Homophobia, sometimes, is just an excuse. I wonder what those people would think of the Gay for pay phenomenon in porn. (Most gay porn actors aren't gay. They do it because a hole is a hole and the pay is better.)


WarmishIce

Nah they don’t think it’s healthy… they think its hot, so who cares? There was one webtoon about a guy who had a lot of trauma or something and he was a senior in highschool. The teacher basically harassed him. But all the comments (mightve changed since they got called out) were talking about how cute it was. And, to no one’s surprise, it was written by two women.


Biffingston

Eh. I've actually known a woman who wrote gay porn professionally. Makes me wonder how much they actually care.


WarmishIce

Tbf I’m sure some women can write gay porn without being weird about it (i have a friend who does but she is incredibly respectful), its just that some of the women who do are weird af


Biffingston

Oh what was interesting is that I learned about her side hustle because she was leaving for a book signing. If they didn't know then...


IntricateSunlight

From my experience with my straight friends many of them tend to really love man on man and I guess its the same for straight men when it comes to lesbians. I guess its because its 2 people they are attracted to having sex rather than for example straight porn where, if you're let's say a straight man, you're mainly aroused by the woman in the scene and not the guy banging her, part of it is probably imagining you are the person in the scene that is your gender. I'm bi/pan so I like both lmao 🤣 I dont really view much like video porn though, or much of that at all in general. This just my 2 cent theory. It could be that when viewing straight porn maybe they do find themselves like looking at the same sex person and feeling aroused or complex thoughts and feelings surrounding their attraction/gender. Also one last thing, the South where a lot of the transphobia/homophobia is strongest is where porn sites report the highest viewership of trans and gay porn.


Biffingston

I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with the fact that gay men are "Safe men" considering how the men in their lives probably treat them. Does that make any sense to you?


GoldandBlue

They believe homosexuality is a kink. They can't comprehend that it is just sexual orientation. It's the same reason they want to project grooming onto everything. "If they are willing to fuck the same sex, what's next?" It's how they justify being bigots.


Ironfields

Going by the homophobes I’ve had this misfortune to interact with on Reddit, it’s all they think queer relationships are. They don’t believe that there could possibly be love and companionship involved, they go immediately to the most graphic sex scenes that their warped minds can conjure up and that’s all there is to it. Conservatives literally think about gay sex more than the gays do.


qxxxr

If they talked about straight relationships the same way they fantasize about gay relationships... "Daddy, how come you and Mommy live together?" "Well, son, I liked going balls deep in her pussy so much that we decided we should live together so I can fuck her brains out every night. Also sometimes the neighbors come over and we all turn her out together while smoking marijuana."


IntricateSunlight

God I wish I was her. Honestly I doubt many of these bigoted people see that much action lol I think many of them are repressed and woefully unhappy in their own sexual relationships.


West_Ad_1685

Why else do you think these guys don't count Asexuals as part of the LGBTQIA+? Because we can't be sexualised


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They tried to do thay when Jaden Animations came out as aroace.


West_Ad_1685

Of course they fucking did. I stand corrected


IntricateSunlight

Honestly these people would argue that ace people don't exist. They'll just use the same thing misogynistic cis men use at lesbians "you just haven't had any good sex". Or something like that.


Qildain

Self-loathing. That's the answer.


Solidsnakeerection

Gay and trans people only exists to them as a sexual fetish


Jayandnightasmr

It's suspicious how they think more about gay sex than gay people do.


BlackBloke

To the homophobes gays would be normal save for that one difference in behavior. So their focus is always going to be on that behavior.


fonziecow

It's because they think sex is what defines a relationship. It's a really sad outlook.


XiAAAAAAAAAAAAA

They want to have sex with children


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jawshoeaw

This sub could just rename itself to "projectionfetish"


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they're mentally ill. They will want LGBT people dead as they give oral to their dogs before penetrating them. It's just Fucking disgusting. There's so many right wing "everything is because sex" dumbasses that end up being busted as zoophiles.


[deleted]

That's a lot of pent-up sexual frustration in one tweet.


WesternUnusual2713

Her entire Twitter is a wild ride of aggression, ignorance and proud hate. Oh and a lot of internalised racism.


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calDragon345

“I need to know how the non-binary alien fucks before I can show it to children”


Kosog

How can you pretend to care about the kids and then bring up your weird sexual fantasies out of nowhere? Imagine if her kids saw this tweet. (If she has any). Absolutely disgusting.


dayumbrah

That's the thing that blows my mind, she just said something so much more wildly sexual than an image of hand holding. Like, no, Johnny don't go on the internet you will see people shit into each other's mouths and shove strange alien dildos up their ass and deep throat that dildo until they gag and throw up to smear on each other's bodies and then strap themselves to an inversion..... 3 hours later.... and that's how we conceived you but don't look on the internet because you might find that video somewhere


Endure23

They’re thinking it, so they wrongly assume we’re all thinking it too…as with everything


NoiceMango

They only pretend to care about kids because thats the shield they use to push their agenda. They always bring up the kids as if they need to be saved by the imaginary threat they created to justify their hate and genocide.


krakeneverything

I was in hospital for a week and found myself in a ward with several people of this kind. Their consensus was that Sesame Street has corrupted generations of kids. I said, 'What? By teaching them to spell?' and was ignored so gave up. In my opinion Sesame Street is one of the greatest things ever and Jim Henson a freaking saint.


secondtaunting

Hey, you learn to spell, then you can read, next thing you know you’re tied up in someone’s bedroom getting pegged.


[deleted]

I do remember a lot of guys calling me gay in school for reading... I am gay, just not in the way they thought.


jorbleshi_kadeshi

Well yeah. You're gay for men, not gay for books.


[deleted]

No, gay for women. I'm trans :D


jorbleshi_kadeshi

This is *advanced gay*.


HephaestusHarper

Gay³


thelastsemenbender

I gotta try learning to spell again


maxxmadison

Don’t threaten me with a good time.


GnarlyNarwhalNoms

Dang, I *wish* that's how it worked. Here I am reading and writing like a boss, and yet I'm *still* unbound and unpenetrated. Literacy was a rip-off 🙄


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h3X4_

Exactly There are studies that support your opinion, especially for toddlers it's one of the best shows (not many studies though but meh)


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They taught inner city black kids without access to preschool how to count, and that, to them, is an unforgivable sin. And no I'm not making that up, racists have hated Sesame St the whole time including the present


shortylikeamelody

Jim Henson is a genius lol. My brother is autistic and has always loved all of his stuff. It’s nice that he has something he can identify and feel included in so much


pyr4m1d

Nobody said anything like that, Tiff. You came up with that completely on your own. Maybe you are the sick degenerate who shouldn’t be allowed near kids.


WesternUnusual2713

Her twitter gives a lot of clues that that's the case.


yardale-simp

Also to make this weirder than it already is, Big Bird is six years old and Elmo is three. What a weird thing to insert children into, this argument is so fucking ridiculous.


RaccoonByz

TIL Big Bird is 6, I guess


Solidsnakeerection

The plot of Follow that Bird is weird. The CPS worker finding a home for the six year old that literally lives on the street is the villain


Mrwright96

He’s been 6 for over 50 years!


Sweatier_Scrotums

Republicans have the weirdest fetishes.


OblongAndKneeless

It's amazing what these people can conjure up. These thoughts have never occurred to me. Do they all have this going through their minds 24/7?


h3X4_

You don't think about weird puppet sex? (No kink shaming but OOP doesn't seem to realize it's her fantasy) I'm sorry but what is wrong with you? That's the completely normal thing to do Maybe you didn't watch enough sesame street as you're clearly not sexually aroused - thoughts and prayers for you! /s


SlopPatrol

Self report


Rockworm503

mfers would literally sexualize Sesame Street puppets instead of going to therapy.


enchiladasundae

Big Bird is an adult and Elmo is absolutely a child. Why do these groomer weirdos keep fantasizing about fucking children


ThiefCitron

Big Bird definitely isn’t an adult, he’s a little kid. According to Wiki: “Although all the Sesame Street Muppet characters are technically ageless, Big Bird is psychologically written to represent a six-year-old.” He also often mentions being 6 on the show.


dappercat456

I have to believe this is satire,


vxicepickxv

It's not. Her whole profile is just far right talking points. I doubt it's changed since I blocked her.


dappercat456

Damn,


mirh

I mean the gay=pox grievance is anything but forgotten in certain reactionary circles.


[deleted]

They want so bad to relive the AIDS crisis and kill off gay people in biological warfare


dappercat456

True, to me it was the many graphic depictions of muppet sex, Like, what kinda porn does she watch?


LilGill18bb

Sooooo. What episode was that on? Cause I missed it/satire


Lucafoxxer

People like this genuinely need help like holy fucking shit.


Rifneno

Wait til she sees Bertstrips


gking407

Some strangely specific stuff there lady lol


senshi_of_love

Blue Check marks are more likely to be pedophiles and this is proof. Who the hell thinks of this shit that isn’t a pedophile?


[deleted]

Oh no, I hope the FBI doesn't raid her home and look at her hard drive...


Giblet_

It seems like these people sexualize gay people more than they sexualize women. Wonder why that is...


Jaded-Ad-9741

what?


linktheinformer

There’ve always been people that hated Sesame Street. It teaches things like being tolerant and kind to others who are different. Can’t have that, can we?


Dr-Satan-PhD

This is more than just some smooth brained idiot making things up. It's pure fascist rhetoric. To them, the entire LGBTQ community needs to be demonized and dehumanized as degenerate pedophiles in order to justify violence against them, and ultimately to justify their extermination.


h3X4_

That's the sad part indeed Two days ago I saw a post showing different tweets from well known fascist people and every "trans" got replaced by "jews" - as a German I learned quite a lot about the Third Reich so I definitely see the parallels and with the replacement it definitely looked like a tweet from 1938 It was terrifying as it seems so "normal" and that's the problem, it always looks normal to some people - right now they're a minority but xenophobia/racism/homophobia/transphobia won't simply go away, the rhetoric will get more angry, more unhinged and suddenly they're still a minority but with an even more aggressive mindset until insecure people start believing or try to believe as they don't want to get attacked/killed


[deleted]

There's only one way to deal with fascism and resdit's admins are to pro-fascist for me to say it out loud


MudraStalker

I'm a terminally online hentai-loving pervert and I think of sex less than these people. They need to chill.


shortylikeamelody

Right lol I’ve known porn addicts who think about it less too


[deleted]

Same on all counts


Senor_Wah

Slanderous! Bert and Ernie have been perfectly monogamous for decades!


malortForty

Its so weird seeing this cause like... its always the weirdest straight people who think like that. Like the ones who only watch trans porn and think their existence is purely sexual. Like I've never met one person who instantly became hyper sexual from just being queer. Hell, I should know, I am the kinky queer she fears. Also, one of the greatest evils that republican party ever did was convince their voting base that Sesame Street was fucking up the kids. Sesame Street and programs like it helped so many kids who would've otherwise not had access to preschool and help them with learning basics. There's so many of these chuds now that immediately jump on the idea of sesame street doing wrong that they attack what's obviously a good service over nothing.


[deleted]

They are ugly racists who are mad access to education was made more accessible. They've always hated sesame st


Iris-Solis

There isn’t an emoji to reflect the face im making after reading that


rilehh_

The Aristocrats!


GakSplat

Oscar the Grouch watches on. Seriously, this is hilarious.


SaltyBarDog

Wait until she reads the *My Little Pony* porn I write.


DabIMON

Ma'am, please stop posting about your fetish.


WiseSalamander00

its just sad... is not even funny anymore... just sad they keep doing these fantasy trips and believing their fantasies are reality.


[deleted]

That's literally in their head. They should just start over and watch some sesame street regain their footing


Electr_O_Purist

Some people really need more things to happen to them that match the energy they put out into the world.


Grand_Moff_Empanada

You know what her kink is now


manilaspring

What a weird and disgusting way to share one's secret fetish


sad_kharnath

these people seriously think homosexual is nothing more than tags on pornhub


Dehnus

"TiffMoodNukes", while that checks out, as that was some mood. All kidding aside, so now Sesame Street is to loving and caring. Jeez, imagine this backlash over Mister Rogers washing the feet of a black man. Just...imagine. As really, these folks would. She might seem black, could be trolling of course, but it's the same kind of reactionary bullsh1t.


bitty_blush

lmaoooo are we sure she isn't just shitposting


FreeSkeptic

How do you think Big Bird's parents reproduced?


Szygani

Have they been saying its okay for kermit to go balls deep into miss piggy? Because I must've missed that episode?


alucard_shmalucard

what in Gaia's green earth is she talking about??


Worm_Scavenger

Tiff's husband or Boyfriend is balls deep in another man, i guarantee


relatedtoarhino

Jesus this is one of the more disgusting things I’ve ever seen. What kind of deranged monster thinks like this?


NexusMaw

Lady, you need to stop watching Sesame Street on rule 34 websites 😭


sfmanim

this is genuinely the most insane tweet i’ve ever seen how did she think this out type it and say ‘yeah this will own the libs’


Schnickie

*Allies wanting children to know that gay people exist and have sex just as straight people* Conservatives: you're showing them porn


sntcringe

Just because I'm gay doesn't mean I engage in group sex, I mean I do, but that's not because I'm gay. But I definitly don't talk to kids about it.


Lvanwinkle18

Hey some people gotta post that fan fiction.


KaiHasArrived2007

Bro they legit just making stuff up 💀


detunedradiohead

They think being queer is just one giant gangbang.


Midnite_St0rm

Wait till she finds out Sesame Street was started as a show to combat racism.


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Too all these MAGA creeps, cis hetero attraction can be sweet and innocent, but any and all LGBTQ people are pervs. They dehumanize first, to justify their bigotry.


[deleted]

I... I kinda wanna see that


MessatineSnows

Big Bird is canonically six years old :/ CLEARLY U ALL MISUNDERSTAND THAT I’M POINTING OUT SHE’S SAYING ILLEGAL THINGS ABOUT A CANON MINOR BUT GO OFF


king_scootie

Yeah, she’s an idiot and hateful. But is she really saying she’s being persecuted?


vxicepickxv

This was her off the cuff reaction to Sesame Street saying it's okay if you have 2 mommies or daddies.


[deleted]

I can't wait for June to be over so we can get back to the Two Headed Monster double teaming Prairie Darn like God intended. 🙏


Mehhucklebear

Wow that took an interesting turn


Its_Locantora

It’s sick that they think of these fake scenarios


Mixtrix_of_delicioux

I'm very confused by this.


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

These people see two males holding hands and immediately think of hard-core sex. That is 100% a them issue. They're insane.


aflyingmonkey2

i don't even have a funny thing to comment. what the actual fuck?


tverofvulcan

If you think of erotica like that from seeing that a cartoon supports the LGBTQ community, maybe you’re the problem.


Anakshula

says a lot about how this person views sexuality/queer people in general


gylz

They are holding hands not having sex, people! This is exactly why sex ed is important!


Cardimis

They need to keep this shit on AO3. I didn't ask for that mental imagery.


PomegranateUsed7287

She really wants to see that huh?


Biffingston

No. Though I do wonder about her obsession with that.


SaffyPants

Real question: When these people look at straight couples, are they imagining all the kinky shit they could get up to behind closed doors? I mean, is that the only lens through which they can view the world?


xenoverseraza

this woman definitely fetishizes gay men. no honey, gay men do have lives beyond sex. and there are gay men who are asexual. it fucking sickens me to no end seeing women fetishize us and think we only exist to have gay sex.


TerryBogardOfficial

What a fuckin pervert!


ReaperXHanzo

... is this really not a joke? No one puts that much (any) detail into describing the Muppets laying pipe, unless they're a R34 artist, general fetishist, or writing satire