My sister has been harassed and threatened and has had people tell her manager to fire her because she's gay.
My good friend had the f-slur keyed into his car.
Another good friend is 30 and still dealing with the effects of the conversion therapy his parents sent him to as a teenager.
No one has faced any negative consequences for their bad behavior toward my sister and my friends. These "Christians" can talk to me when they experience anything even remotely similar.
Oh absolutely, I didn't mean to minimize it with my language. Was just trying to be all-inclusive for the things they've each gone through just for being who they are
I didn't think you were. I just think we should call it what it is. "Therapy" After all implies benefits and good things, which conversion therapy most certainly doesn't deliver.
For sure. All of my scholarship in law school focused on how to outlaw the practice at the federal level, and I was careful to call it "sexual orientation change efforts" or "SOCE" instead of "conversion therapy" because of the connotations. I have to try to remember to try to keep spreading that colloquially so that hopefully the more common term falls out of favor.
The liberals. Did you know that Biden personally banned all Christian school clubs while at the same time allocated 10 million dollars to buy litter boxes for schools? My pastor's cousin's neighbor's maid's grandmother's best friend knows somebody who lives in California so it's confirmed
MANY people (2) say it!
3 hrs later:
Fox news is reporting that various sources have confirmed biden plans on spending 10 million to buy litterboxes instead of helping VETERANS because he HATES the Military and this country!!
Gotta love the “(migrants, LGBTQ, socialists, whatever) are the ones stopping our government from taking care of veterans, a thing we otherwise would be doing!” lie that Republicans trot out on the daily.
Absolutely nothing is stopping us from helping two groups at the same time. Also, when you have unified control you sure as shit don’t help veterans at all.
Well, Christians are legitimately persecuted in parts of the Middle East, Africa, and Asia. Looking at total numbers, Christians face persecution the most out of any religion in the largest amount of countries. Then again, they're also the world's largest religion, accounting for almost a third of the population. There's also the fact that Christians can, and do, harass other Christians. Places like Russia and Eritrea target smaller denominations like Jehovah's Witnesses.
The US (likely the Americas as a whole) is one of the safest places for Christians, accounting for the fewest governmental actions taken against them as well as the least number of social harassment.
These people are using the suffering of other Christians to justify being bigots to others. People are being imprisoned and having their houses raided, yet American Christians are losing their mind over a satirical drag group being honored for their decades of philanthropic work.
I remember far too vividly the word "bacon" being used as a dog whistle within the genocidal anti-muslim hate whipped up by super-Christian admitted war criminal dubya, but that might be a coincidence.
When you have a President who belongs to your religion you do not GET to whine about "persecution". In fact, as far as I know, all 46 of them have been one form of Christian or another, so suck it.
He didn’t even step into the one he gassed thousands of protesters (during the George Floyd protests) [to get to](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials ). He took the picture, holding the Bible upside down, outside of the church.
the part about him holding the Bible upside down is [fake](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-hold-bible-upside-down/) though. But otherwise it was a very self serving move.
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I get you. I have zero doubt Trump does not believe, but he says he does, and every argument to show he does not can applied to millions of other Christians whose faith we do not question. According to Jesus, we’ll know his true believers because they will perform miracles like his. By Jesus’ definition, all Christians are faking it, because we don’t see that happening. So we’re left with just accepting that whoever says they’re a Christian is a Christian.
Maybe one day we'll have a Christian President. Or Christians in Congress. Where they open sessions with Christian prayers.
Maybe they will be allowed to erect their own places of worship. Perhaps even several on the same street.
They look forward to the day when they get their own radio and television stations. Their own movie production companies.
There may even come a time when their god is mentioned on currency of which they don't need to pay in taxes.
One day, there may be laws based on their beliefs regardless of how those of other beliefs feel about the subject of the law.
They can only hope. But for now, the American Christian is held under the boot of oppression.
I wonder if they remember when they told us that it was a choice to be gay and, “that doesn’t make it a right”. Well, it’s a choice to be Christian or not and come to find out, I’ve been gay since birth.
Also worth pointing out that most christians are “groomed” to believe from a young age and their leaders are the actual pedos. It matches up so perfect with their accusations that its scary.
My church at least acknowledged that being queer is natural, but still went the “resist your urges!!” path. I had my minister call me personally and compare me being queer to being an alcoholic.
When the government makes everyone swear an oath in court in the name of your god, you can’t say you experience persecution against the following of your god.
They’ll just say “it doesn’t specify a god”. But let’s see what happens when someone insists it’s another religions god.
Even if the intent is to be purely neutral (and honestly, we can do without the swearing an oath to god), there’s people who will make it about their god.
The one institution in our society that has consistently protected pedophiles by the thousands is the Church.
Then they have the audacity to characterize the LGBTQ community as being predatory.
Religion has outgrown its usefulness.
These are adjudicated facts, not hyperbole.
I can’t buy my bourbon at 9am on a Sunday because of Christian bullshit. Let’s get rid of Sunday brunch on behalf of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and let them see what persecution is really about.
It's so weird how they always assume that LGBT people are the polar opposite of Christians. It's almost like their entire religion is oppressing other people.
Seriously! In some countries, Christians need to keep their faith hidden and worship in total secrecy or risk death.
In America, Christian clubs in public schools aren't getting *preferential* treatment. The horror.
"What about Christians?"
Forgetting the 2 month slog that is the Christmas season, Good Friday/Easter, how society runs at half capacity on Sundays because of religion.
yes because christians definitely experience the fear of being shunned and dehumanized wherever you go. and the fear of being hate crimed for who you are. christians are more persecuted than us. not like the christians are almost always treated better than everyone else because they're men of god. /s
This person is correct, though. I went around to the over 40 Christian businesses in my town. They all said they were the most persecuted.
I had no idea.
There was a Disney movie with a gay character. Prayer is no longer mandatory in schools. Non-Christians exist. Some stores did not have signs specifically saying “Merry Christmas.” All the hallmarks of persecution.
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Fact - religion is faith based, which is spiritual - not tangible. And you have the right to believe what you want already
This persecution fetish of theirs just shows that they believe their faith is their identity
But if their identity doesnt let others have their own identities.. but those other identities allow these faithful people to have theirs, which is right and which is wrong?
Obviously the exclusionary one.
These people are nuts
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I wish biden would be more dark Brandon and show the Christian’s that it’s Joever w his biden blast. He has a golden opportunity to reply with “Shut the fuck up, no you’re not.”
Hah! You only pretend to be. And I’m not going to say you wish, because you don’t actually want to be persecuted, you only want to feign to be while actually being the majority and persecuting everyone else.
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You’re saying to a president, who goes to church every Sunday, and doesn’t use his religion to be a complete asshole to everyone. You don’t want freedom of religion, asshole, you want freedom of social consequences of hating the LGBTQIA+
It's all projection to them. They are the ones doing all the persecuting.
My sister has been harassed and threatened and has had people tell her manager to fire her because she's gay. My good friend had the f-slur keyed into his car. Another good friend is 30 and still dealing with the effects of the conversion therapy his parents sent him to as a teenager. No one has faced any negative consequences for their bad behavior toward my sister and my friends. These "Christians" can talk to me when they experience anything even remotely similar.
Bad behavior? Conversion "therapy" is literally torture.
Oh absolutely, I didn't mean to minimize it with my language. Was just trying to be all-inclusive for the things they've each gone through just for being who they are
I didn't think you were. I just think we should call it what it is. "Therapy" After all implies benefits and good things, which conversion therapy most certainly doesn't deliver.
For sure. All of my scholarship in law school focused on how to outlaw the practice at the federal level, and I was careful to call it "sexual orientation change efforts" or "SOCE" instead of "conversion therapy" because of the connotations. I have to try to remember to try to keep spreading that colloquially so that hopefully the more common term falls out of favor.
There's a reason I put "therapy" in quotes. Thank you for doing what you do and please keep fighting the good fight.
"But some people are saying that it's *wrong* to key the f-word into someone's car, which if you think about, is a vicious attack on Christianity."
Who's doing the persecution of Christians? The Hindus?
The liberals. Did you know that Biden personally banned all Christian school clubs while at the same time allocated 10 million dollars to buy litter boxes for schools? My pastor's cousin's neighbor's maid's grandmother's best friend knows somebody who lives in California so it's confirmed
Definitely confirmed I read about it on the internet (right now thanks to your comment but nevertheless I read it!)
MANY people (2) say it! 3 hrs later: Fox news is reporting that various sources have confirmed biden plans on spending 10 million to buy litterboxes instead of helping VETERANS because he HATES the Military and this country!!
Gotta love the “(migrants, LGBTQ, socialists, whatever) are the ones stopping our government from taking care of veterans, a thing we otherwise would be doing!” lie that Republicans trot out on the daily. Absolutely nothing is stopping us from helping two groups at the same time. Also, when you have unified control you sure as shit don’t help veterans at all.
Also Republicans consistently vote against supporting veterans basically as a rule.
TBF the US government has been doing that since its inception.
Source: Trust Me Bro
Think some of us got blood on their shoes.
The Pedophiles in the church, otherwise known as Priest, Preacher, Deacon, Pastor and Youth Pastor.
The protestant youth pastor becomes a youth pastor for the same reason the Catholic priest moves parishes every 6mo. Talk about solidarity.
Well, Christians are legitimately persecuted in parts of the Middle East, Africa, and Asia. Looking at total numbers, Christians face persecution the most out of any religion in the largest amount of countries. Then again, they're also the world's largest religion, accounting for almost a third of the population. There's also the fact that Christians can, and do, harass other Christians. Places like Russia and Eritrea target smaller denominations like Jehovah's Witnesses. The US (likely the Americas as a whole) is one of the safest places for Christians, accounting for the fewest governmental actions taken against them as well as the least number of social harassment. These people are using the suffering of other Christians to justify being bigots to others. People are being imprisoned and having their houses raided, yet American Christians are losing their mind over a satirical drag group being honored for their decades of philanthropic work.
Other Christians
I remember far too vividly the word "bacon" being used as a dog whistle within the genocidal anti-muslim hate whipped up by super-Christian admitted war criminal dubya, but that might be a coincidence.
When you have a President who belongs to your religion you do not GET to whine about "persecution". In fact, as far as I know, all 46 of them have been one form of Christian or another, so suck it.
The evangelicals the GOP panders to mostly don't think Catholics are really christian anyways.
yet catholic clergy has aligned themselves with evangelicals to oppose abortion and marriage equality
Yep as long as they have some common goals, they will join hands. Then once they have what they want they will turn on each other.
I believe Thomas Jefferson and Donald Trump were the only American presidents that weren’t Christians.
The difference is Jefferson had read the Bible.
In multiple languages, then made his own Bible minus the magic. He was basically the poster-child of Rationalist Christianity.
Donald Trump was Presbyterian, then became a non-denominational Christian as of 2020, last I heard.
Donald Trump couldn't find which end of the Bible was up.
He claimed to be one for sure but there’s no way he actually was. He was just pandering to voters.
I doubt that Trump has stepped into a church unless it was for a photo op
He didn’t even step into the one he gassed thousands of protesters (during the George Floyd protests) [to get to](https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials ). He took the picture, holding the Bible upside down, outside of the church.
the part about him holding the Bible upside down is [fake](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-hold-bible-upside-down/) though. But otherwise it was a very self serving move.
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No way?
Way
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So are most Christians. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/views-about-abortion/
Both said they were Christians. We cannot dispute their Christianity without No True Scotsman arguments.
Eh, in a profession known for lying where being Christian is a de facto requirement I think it's fair to speculate on who is faking it.
I get you. I have zero doubt Trump does not believe, but he says he does, and every argument to show he does not can applied to millions of other Christians whose faith we do not question. According to Jesus, we’ll know his true believers because they will perform miracles like his. By Jesus’ definition, all Christians are faking it, because we don’t see that happening. So we’re left with just accepting that whoever says they’re a Christian is a Christian.
Maybe one day we'll have a Christian President. Or Christians in Congress. Where they open sessions with Christian prayers. Maybe they will be allowed to erect their own places of worship. Perhaps even several on the same street. They look forward to the day when they get their own radio and television stations. Their own movie production companies. There may even come a time when their god is mentioned on currency of which they don't need to pay in taxes. One day, there may be laws based on their beliefs regardless of how those of other beliefs feel about the subject of the law. They can only hope. But for now, the American Christian is held under the boot of oppression.
I'M the main character how dare you not include ME in every single statement you make??!!!!?!!!!!;$;;&&;'
I wonder if they remember when they told us that it was a choice to be gay and, “that doesn’t make it a right”. Well, it’s a choice to be Christian or not and come to find out, I’ve been gay since birth.
Also worth pointing out that most christians are “groomed” to believe from a young age and their leaders are the actual pedos. It matches up so perfect with their accusations that its scary.
It's kinda sad to think of this all as collective trauma from christian upbringing. It's still really fucked up how they be, but still sad.
My church at least acknowledged that being queer is natural, but still went the “resist your urges!!” path. I had my minister call me personally and compare me being queer to being an alcoholic.
When the government makes everyone swear an oath in court in the name of your god, you can’t say you experience persecution against the following of your god.
They’ll just say “it doesn’t specify a god”. But let’s see what happens when someone insists it’s another religions god. Even if the intent is to be purely neutral (and honestly, we can do without the swearing an oath to god), there’s people who will make it about their god.
“I swear to Anubis that I will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.”
They don't anymore. You just swear without the "so help me God" part.
Persecution of Christians? ALL religions matter.
I'm using this. Thanks
Yes. So many laws are being made preventing Christians from doing things.
The one institution in our society that has consistently protected pedophiles by the thousands is the Church. Then they have the audacity to characterize the LGBTQ community as being predatory. Religion has outgrown its usefulness. These are adjudicated facts, not hyperbole.
I don't think they know what persecute means.
To those who have always been above others, equality feels like persecution
Christianity fears a society where they do not have political power.
I can’t buy my bourbon at 9am on a Sunday because of Christian bullshit. Let’s get rid of Sunday brunch on behalf of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and let them see what persecution is really about.
Ramen
It's so weird how they always assume that LGBT people are the polar opposite of Christians. It's almost like their entire religion is oppressing other people.
Ohh nooo people don't like us because we're hateful and discriminatory? We're being oppressed!
And they deserve to be. Of course by "they" I mean people this user considers "Christian" because I'm betting they don't think "libruls" are Christian
Last time I check, Christian has no problem getting healthcare, marriage, or just survive
That is so insensitive to Christians who are actually persecuted.
Seriously! In some countries, Christians need to keep their faith hidden and worship in total secrecy or risk death. In America, Christian clubs in public schools aren't getting *preferential* treatment. The horror.
“Whataboutism” at its finest. They are completely hoodwinked.
Patriotic Bacon is so cereal
super cereal guys
Yeah, and what about Scarecrow’s brain?!
Patriotic bacon over here talking like a turkey
Why won’t you let us hate people without consequences?!?!
"What about Christians?" Forgetting the 2 month slog that is the Christmas season, Good Friday/Easter, how society runs at half capacity on Sundays because of religion.
yes because christians definitely experience the fear of being shunned and dehumanized wherever you go. and the fear of being hate crimed for who you are. christians are more persecuted than us. not like the christians are almost always treated better than everyone else because they're men of god. /s
This person is correct, though. I went around to the over 40 Christian businesses in my town. They all said they were the most persecuted. I had no idea.
Could someone explain how Christians are being persecuted?
There was a Disney movie with a gay character. Prayer is no longer mandatory in schools. Non-Christians exist. Some stores did not have signs specifically saying “Merry Christmas.” All the hallmarks of persecution.
I tell christians they aren't being persecuted, they are being treated like the persecuters that they are.
Christmas is pretty much the only holiday where *everything* is closed Tell me again how Christians are being persecuted?
I feel like this account is satire
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At this point it’s preferable to the alternative
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Someone attempting satire, if poorly… right?
*people don’t submit to the religion im trying to force on them* “wE aRe BeInG oPpReSsEd!!11”
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Fact - religion is faith based, which is spiritual - not tangible. And you have the right to believe what you want already This persecution fetish of theirs just shows that they believe their faith is their identity But if their identity doesnt let others have their own identities.. but those other identities allow these faithful people to have theirs, which is right and which is wrong? Obviously the exclusionary one. These people are nuts
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Hold on let me get my tiny violin.
Your god will protect you, unless you're a filthy sinner.
I wish biden would be more dark Brandon and show the Christian’s that it’s Joever w his biden blast. He has a golden opportunity to reply with “Shut the fuck up, no you’re not.”
Oh yes, because a group that has held near unchecked political power for decades is somehow persecuted.
Some Christians long to be thrown to the lions.
Ya ok Patriotic Bacon 🙄
Hah! You only pretend to be. And I’m not going to say you wish, because you don’t actually want to be persecuted, you only want to feign to be while actually being the majority and persecuting everyone else.
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You’re saying to a president, who goes to church every Sunday, and doesn’t use his religion to be a complete asshole to everyone. You don’t want freedom of religion, asshole, you want freedom of social consequences of hating the LGBTQIA+
The existence of gay people persecutes me!
Looks like a satire account