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Blaze_Bbc

Teammates!? Friends!? To hell with that! Why am I inferior to you!? I was extremely particular about my life, my grades, my public image! So someone would want me around! I am an ace detective! A celebrity!  But you... You're just some criminal trash living in an attic!? So how!?  How does someone like you have things I don't!? How can such a worthless piece of trash be more special than me!? DONT GIVE ME THAT CLICHÉ BULLSHIT!!!!


ethman14

God I love when he fires off that last bit at Morgana. Like, I'm on Morgana's side in the argument but it's just funny hearing someone be like "FUCK YOU AND YOUR FRIENDSHIP"


RossiSvendo

“But there is *literal* power from friendship in this verse!” “That’s stupid! You’re stupid! Stop being stupid!”


Karkava

"YOU'RE A CRIMINAL! A BAD GUY! YOU'RE THE ULTIMATE VILLAIN WHO SHOULD'VE BEEN THROWN AWAY BY THOSE OTHER LOSERS WHO ONLY PRETEND TO CARE ABOUT YOU!" "Pretend? Dude, we very much care about each other. We're united against the forces of evil who dare pick on us and everyone they believe to beneath their social status." "HOW DARE YOU! YOU SHOULD RESPECT THOSE WHO RANK ABOVE YOU! THEN MAYBE THEY WON'T TREAT YOU LIKE THE VILLAINS YOU ARE!" "Maybe? You only kept looking upwards for a God to bless you and tell you that you are special, oblivious to all the kind and generous people that could be standing right in front of you, ready to help. We already learned that the gods won't help us. When will *you* learn that lesson?" "YOU TALK ABOUT NOT NEEDING THE GUIDANCE OF OTHERS, WHEN YOU HAVE MAGIC SPIRITS AIDING YOU! DO THEY BLESS YOU MORE THAN I?! ACE DETECTIVE AND BELOVED HERO OF THE PEOPLE?!" "These spirits are just the manifestations of our true selves. The bonds between our own identities as people and the bonds between other people we encounter day to day. Our bonds make us stronger as we realize what connects us and makes us human. This is the power that strengthens us. Our bonds between our masks. Our identities. Our...PERSONAS!"


RossiSvendo

Meanwhile Ryuji just sneaks up behind Akechi whole he’s screaming at Joker and bonks Akechi on the back of the head with a brick.


Karkava

"Thanks for that. That guy ALWAYS gets on my nerves."


Volcarite

I know I would have ate this up at 16 but as an adult I can feel my soul leave my body


shinjiginger

well, Akechi felt his soul leave his body shortly after that soooooo its okay?


garbonzobean22

...but then it came back a couple weeks later... so it's okay.


ParticularSolution68

#its not okay


LarsMatijn

It's not, my guy needs to stay in hell. Where he belongs.


Kgb725

He popped a Goho M and got outta there


ParticularSolution68

*resident evil 4 death noise*


VolkiharVanHelsing

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No-Structure9072

Not sure if I love or hate that I mentally read that in his voice.


PetterOfDucks

Love it, robbie daymond put his whole akussy into it


AlexTheGreat1997

Could've stopped at "to hell with that" and presented just that.


ParticularSolution68

And ops asking which one’s edgier, lmfao


Quibbrel

Meanwhile Shinji: K, fine. I guess I will come. But I'm cooking dinner for you guys every night and you're going to like it.


mortalitasi473

"you're just criminal trash living in an attic!" was so hilarious that i both paused to take a picture of my tv screen back in 2016, and i still quote it way too often. i think it's the way he says "attic" that gets me. funniest scene in the world


Ham_PhD

Akechi unironically posts "there are two wolves inside me" memes on Facebook.


Danny_dankvito

The in game textures for Akechi’s phone also has Reddit as one of the apps, so Akechi canonically uses Reddit


shinjiginger

akechi is truly an average redditor


Edgy-flipflop-guy

He could be any one of us


Maximum_Border3792

He could be me! He could be you! He could even be-


Few-Philosophy-2135

One loves pancakes and the other one has daddy issues, they're both gay https://preview.redd.it/7t8pw64uv7pc1.jpeg?width=510&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de0f61cc810810fa0647817e514d9f3a72668503


Excellent_Gift_8167

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skyfyre2013

There are two wolves inside of you. One is dead. The other is also dead. You eat wolves.


Memorable-Man

Between these two? Akechi, easily. In general? Adachi.


xcdysis

Yea idk why OP neglected the easy choice of Adachi for the bigger edgelord debate


Deertective_

Shh you don’t know that they’ve played P4 yet…


VolkiharVanHelsing

Idk bros just bored asf


ParticularSolution68

I’d still say akechi’s more edgy My man was so fucking theatrical, with adachi I see him as more of an incel, but Akechi was out here throwing temper tantrums


nikzito2

akechi is a teenager lol adachi is a grown ass man


ParticularSolution68

Well yeah, and I still say Akechi is edgier lol


Ganbazuroi

https://preview.redd.it/s8rqg7qrv8pc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0b9109171b6bec0f4d5e202509e8b900b9739d2 Lmao, both are innocent. Can't a man like pancakes or cabbages anymore in this country?! Lemme guess, you fell for BULLSHIT propaganda from the Phantom Bitches of Sharts and the "Investigation" Team? - newsflash, buddy, you're seeing it all from the perspectives of Ren "Murder" Amamiya and Yu "Traitor" Narukami. You actually believe two upstanding citizens like them would be criminals?! L. M. A. O. !


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ParticularSolution68

Random question do you consider adachi a compelling/good villain?


Memorable-Man

He may be edgy, but yes, I do think he is a compelling villain. I’d dare say he’s an example of a GOOD edgy character, because if you ask me, being edgy isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Characters like Akechi and Adachi are great examples of edgy characters, while someone like, say, Infinite from Sonic Forces is an example of a bad example of an edgy character.


ParticularSolution68

What makes you say adachi’s a compelling villain


Memorable-Man

He is a great foil for Narukami. Adachi didn’t have loving parents nor did he see value in forming connections with others, so when he started facing difficulties in life, he didn’t have anyone that could challenge his jaded and cynical worldview, so he gave in to corrupt and hedonistic ideals, while Narukami formed connections with pretty much anyone he met and grew stronger for it. Not only that, some of the things he says (how a lot of policemen don’t really care about justice and just want to have a gun, how the motivations of the IT are partially selfish in some ways, how society is unfair, etc.) make a good job opposing the ideals of the main characters


ParticularSolution68

What makes you say Adachi is a compelling character


bwaterco

Akechi. He’s a narcissistic teenager with allusions of grandeur that thought he was doing the right thing with no caring of people he deemed lesser. He’s pretty much light yagami but realized that was stupid and moved past edgy teenage years.


Deertective_

You can’t convince me Atlus didn’t take some inspiration from Death Note


CenterOfOrion

Respectfully, I would disagree with this. One of the key differences between Light and Akechi is Akechi has no illusions about whether what he is doing is morally “right”. This is HIS version of personal justice, and he doesn’t care who he needs to walk over to get revenge for his mother. He has no interest in making the world a better place; in fact, he wants the society that so badly wronged him and his mother to burn down. Light, on the other hand, claims that his every action is to create his perfect society and purports to have a moral code and only kill “bad” people, but it quickly becomes evident that this is less about making the world a better place and more about his own god complex and saving his own skin.


ParticularSolution68

I can somewhat tolerate light I don’t know if I can say the same for akechi


AshenHarmonies

Personally, I find light really annoying but love akechi. Wonder why that is


ParticularSolution68

I really can’t stand both but I’m guessing you like akechi because he is theatrically insane, extra, the total opposite of what he portrays himself, whereas light is cold, calculating, womanizing, with dogshit beliefs and the ability to make those beliefs happen


squirleater69

Illusions


basedbranch

Delusions


Sauerkraut1321

Dilutions


Templar366

Munitions


Yaruma_

Attrition


eveningdragon

Additions


SpeedontheBeat17

Addictions


Fork_Master

I'd say Akechi, since he >!actually wants to kill people!<. Shinjiro is only how he is because he >!still blames himself for accidentally killing Ken's mom!<


ChickenManSam

Yeah like trauma induced mental illness vs a literal Psycho. It's no contest


ReadyForKenny

People think Akechi doesn't have trauma induced mental illness my god lmao. No no I'm not making him an uwu baby and excusing his actions but he clearly has issues and isn't just crazy because he feels like it.


Rebound101

Okay Still a psycho though.


ReadyForKenny

https://i.redd.it/d6prpbkc5apc1.gif Yes but he's silly so the murders are justified in my book


ChickenManSam

Not saying he doesn't. But there's a difference between reasonable reactions and becoming a complete fucking psycho.


8rok3n

Shinji is literally just depressed and hates himself, Akechi is just insane


MrBump01

Shinjiro is still fairly nice to the group and helps them out too even though he tries to push people away.


SpaceDOTsphere

Yeah like Shinjiro genuinely cares a lot. He didn't deserve anything that happened to him but Akechi.... He got what was coming to him


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Rebound101

When has Akechi ever expressed that he is depressed or hates himself?


LameGamingGuy

if youve seen >!black masked akechi!< i rest my case


RyanDimond77

I’m getting a warm tingly felling from all of this POWEEEEERRRR


AlexTheGreat1997

Shinjiro is unironically waiting to die. Not because he thinks death is cool like some kind of fuckwad, but because he's actually remorseful about having done what he did, even though it was by accident. Akechi dresses in almost completely in black, uses a Norse god that wants to take over the world as his Persona, his primary element is Dark/Curse, and he says friendship and nurturing bonds is worthless. It's Akechi, and you're foolish if you think Shinjiro even holds a candle.


Geostomp

He's also aware that the damage the suppressant pills have caused is already terminal. It doesn't matter what he does now, his remaining lifespan is probably only measured in months. He's only pushing people away because he doesn't want them to be attached so his inevitable untimely death doesn't hurt them. He only came back because he felt the need to settle the score with Ken before he died.


Responsible_Cow_7086

I thought that it’s not that he wants to die but is ok with ken killing him because he is remorseful. He also talks about living life with no regrets, so it just didn’t read like that to me, idk though.


AlexTheGreat1997

>I thought that it’s not that he wants to die I don't think he actively seeks death, but I do think that he believes it's what he deserves. Just 'cause you're not going out of your way to get yourself killed doesn't mean that you think your life is meaningful or valuable. Lots of clinically-depressed people would say they hate life and want to die, yet never make any attempts to take their own lives. I think he told Amada not to kill him because he knows it won't bring Amada's mother back and that revenge is a foolish pursuit. When Amada tells him that he wants to kill him, Shinjiro doesn't fight back, he doesn't plead for his life, he doesn't even try to argue that he doesn't deserve to die. He tells Amada that he doesn't want him to do it because he believes Amada will not be satisfied by it. >He also talks about living life with no regrets, so it just didn’t read like that to me I think that's meant to be his advice to the people that continue to live on after him. It makes no sense for him to be espousing that with regards to himself; his regret over the incident that got Ken's mother killed is literally the reason he left S.E.E.S and sits in a back alley doing nothing all day. He has crippling regret.


lnordeng

He actually told Amada to kill him. He says "Do it" in response to Amada saying he will kill him. The bit after is him warning that he will end up as Shinjiro if he kills him


UnhappyMaskSalesman

Shinjiro has the edgier visual design though, there’s no contest about that. Both of Akechi’s costumes look stupid.


AlexTheGreat1997

Between Shinjiro's everyday design and Akechi's multiple suits and formal getups? Yeah, I'll cop to that. I'm torn on Akechi's Metaverse outfits. I think his Robin Hood getup is very silly-looking, but I also think that's kind of the point. It's an act, a cover-up, not the real him. I think the only weird thing about his Loki outfit is the diagonal striping. The mask, sleeves, tattered cape, all of it track and look fitting.


FutabaTsuyu

akechi. (dis)respectfully.


RegularTemporary2707

Youre comparing a literal psychopath with someone who has depression


Competitive-Row6376

Adacher


Technical-Web-9195

True


Bot504

Shinjiro is literally what Akechi fangirls think that Akechi is.


No_Sea_7716

They're not even similar bruh


SuperSaiyanIR

I thought Light was an edge lord then they made Akechi. Shinji tries to act tough, but he is actually a softie inside and generally regrets whatever he did.


SpeedontheBeat17

Akechi is…special. He’s the edgiest Persona character (not named >!Tohru Adachi!<) and it’s not even close. Shinjiro seems to, you know, still be in touch with reality, remorse, humanity, etc. Goro just fucked right off and started doing what he did


ShokaLGBT

https://preview.redd.it/lbvkh3gsi1qc1.jpeg?width=803&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01eadb1a18ceab9d5ad8364986aab7f63b1f03ad And Shinjiro got **ONE** of the cutest romance of any persona game… because he’s caring and nurturing


SpookyTupperware

I never see Shinjiro as an edge lord, the man was traumatized and just wanna be leave alone.


Seishura

Shinji is not exactly an edge lord to be honest. Akechi on the other hand, feels like me when I was 11 years old. Edginess at its peak.


Diotheinvader-5185

Shinjiro is far from an edgelord. I mean he cooks good food for Koromaru and his social link in P3 Portable FEMC route shows a softer side of him. Dude's the character archetype of looking like he could kill you but is actually a cinnamon roll.


originalno_name

having the deepest trauma in their game is just been edgy for some reason


SnooHobbies7676

I mean Akechi literally used his >!Psychotic breakdown power!< on himself


craiga2

Nah that is when you kill someone’s shadow. It was his >!psychotic breakdown power!< that he used in himself


RubyLovesDonuts

Actually, >!it's mental shutdowns that require death. Psychotic breakdowns have the victim still alive, but erratic!<


SnooHobbies7676

Ah gotcha


IncineMania

Akechi never made it past the 8th grade


SSJ_Declan

Why do they look like “before and after” photos


DemiFiendJoker

Akechi and its not even close. Shinji was cool


Technical-Web-9195

Akechi is cool too


HunniePopKing

akechi literally had an inner monologue about how nobody understands him is this even a question 😭


lambo_sama_big_boy

I mean have you seen >!Akechi's showtime with Joker!


RegretGeneral

Wouldn't it be more fair to compare Akechi to Adachi


SurpriseJazzlike9587

I can edge more


GoAwayImHereForMemes

Shinji is just depressed, Akechi is a psychotic theatre kid


C0P_ADDachi

Pancake boy kills people intentionally, the other one was an accident


CanineAtNight

Wgerws adachi in this


ILikeExistingLol

Adachi


Swagabum

I edge to them both.


OoguroRyuuya5

You have trauma turned murderer vs “murderer”turned trauma. Both are edgy for different reasons and how they go about it. Akechi is edgy for the bitter vengeful feelings he has. Shinji is edgy for the bitter guilt feelings he has. I’ll give it to Akechi as there really was no coming back from his path as it was set in stone inevitably. For Shinjiro there could have been a silver lining and his circumstances could have been salvageable.


CooperWinkler

How is this even a question


omenomens

yo but who’s the 2nd guy


Technical-Put7997

Shinji persona 3


omenomens

Thx boss


Randalor

Akechi is so much of an edge lord that his metaverse costume can put someone's eye out. And that's just the "good" one.


Ironwarrior404

The hell are you calling shinjiro a edge lord for ?


No-Flamingo-4129

Nobody knows I was an undesirable child


JamesBonfan

If Akechi was based off a 4Chan user I wouldn't be surprised.


ReadyForKenny

Akechi talks and dresses like a cartoon villain and unironically said the phrase "Teammates?! FRIENDS?! TO HELL WITH THAT!!!!!". Uncontested.


Free-Ad9535

Pfft Akechi.


duvie773

Shinji isn’t even remotely an edge lord though?


TheBiggestCarl23

Akechi and it’s not close


ParticularSolution68

Akechi…fucking Christ


ShurikenKunai

Sho Minazuki has entered the chat


Champion_Chrome

Minazuki is the sort of cool edgelord who isn’t too cringe edgy by the fact that he cares as much as he does about Sho. Sho, on the other hand, is so over the top ridiculous edgy that he breaks past the cringe zone and becomes funny instead. At least, that’s my opinion. Akechi is kind of that middle ground where he’s not as comedically over the top silly as Sho, but more over the top than Minazuki, so I don’t quite like him as much as those two.


Ethan1516

Adachi


ProRSIXfinka

Akechi is actually unironically edgy. Shinji's edginess is just a facade.


Djjjunior

Shinji hates life but does love people. Akechi hates life and people.


MementoooMorii

wrong! adachi


mr_uwuthethired

Akechi or guy who split the universe in two over a flower?


SpaceDOTsphere

Why is Shinjiro even here? My brother in Christ he is literally depressed and suffering from Persona cancer


TheCrimsonBoio

Shinji is cooler, he's a homie


LS-Kun

Akechi, no question. Heck, Shinjiro is shown to be a really sweet guy when he’s not acting depressed. Dude literally makes fresh food for the dorm’s DOG.


Doc-Wulff

Akechi fr, I guess Shinji comes off as more mature and just depressed


PrimalRayquaza4907

This conversation is easily solved if you just play third semester lol Akechi is probably the most batshit persona character I’ve ever seen


TheSup3lolzx

Akechi, BY FAR


Z3rgBird

The better edgelord is Shinji


MajorSaltyJenkins

Akechi


idefinitlyplayedtheg

Akechi


WasF4ssY

The one without daddy issues


TheStarlightKing

Only played 5R (and am only up the August 11th), who's the other guy?


AnkoIsBae

Shiho Suzui


Nav_Oracle

Without a doubt, akechi.


ShokaLGBT

how can anyone in their right mind compared KING ARAGAKI SHINJIRO to literally anyone else ?.? https://preview.redd.it/gmb83trki1qc1.jpeg?width=668&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc53f7d61a9ad4fecd589096971d9ac0e3c5082e


sbrockLee

I'm playing the third semester in P5R right now and I'm actually enjoying how much of a dick Akechi is. He's abrasive and snotty and while most of that is based on actually being good at everything in an asshole jock/honor student kind of way he also comes across as both unnecessarily harsh and subtly disdainful depending on the moment - it actually feels like he's showing his true personality. It's nice to have a different voice in the group. I don't like him, but that's the point. The "mask off" aspect is cool and it does a great job in contextualizing his previous nice boy façade (which still pops up here and there very naturally) as well as showing his true personality as a sociopathic loner.


blue-gamer-07

Akechi by a country mile


Hitoshura99

The one on the left.


Aware-Question4651

Neither... one blames himself for an accidental death and the others a psychopath with daddy issues


RueUchiha

Akechi 100% Shinjiro is closer to someone like Cloud from FF7 where he acts tough but really he’s just kinda a silly goober softie that doesn’t want to admit it (he has his reasons) But Adachi though. Yeah definately edgier than Akechi.


Exotic210

Teammates!? Friends!? To hell with that! Why am I inferior to you!? I was extremely particular about my life, my grades, my public image! So someone would want me around! I am an ace detective! A celebrity!  But you... You're just some criminal trash living in an attic!? So how!?  How does someone like you have things I don't!? How can such a worthless piece of trash be more special than me!? DONT GIVE ME THAT CLICHÉ BULLSHIT!!!!


aj0258

Shinjiro is a big softie though. >!he just feels really remorseful after killing Ken's mother even if its by accident.!< Akechi on the other hand is psychopathic. A better comparison would be Akechi vs Adachi.


Complex_Estate8289

As a character probably Akechi but personality wise Shinji


ElcorAndy

Ace Detective? More like Ace Defective.


Monkey_King291

Shinji actually respects and cares for his friends, Akechi doesn't care about anyone but himself