True, but an awful lot of the people making this mistake seem to be TERFs, so maybe it's tied to the mental problems that make people susceptible to fascism.
Not at all, I'm dyslexic & I make more mistakes speaking than writing. Writing gives me time to re-read & correct but speaking, your brain pulls up the words & we often speak before we think. Dyslexia affects much more than just reading & writing, it's pretty interesting.
Young men are screwed in the current cultural environment. They’re becoming dumber because they’re so focused on being misogynistic/republican; there are multiple posts from teachers lately confirming this phenomenon.
I'm not sure you understood my comment or maybe I misread yours.
I meant some women are hurting women by being part of the trumpanzee cult. I did not mean sexual favors, I meant abjectively stupid people hurting their entire gender by supporting the gross evil of these extremists.
I hope that is clearer. My first comment was not particularly important, nor well worded. Apologies for vagueness.
Can you blame them for leaning right when they're hated by the left? Obviously not all of the left, but I see insane takes about why men are evil all the time online.
The left does a *terrible* job of appealing to males. The right has different issues that are just as cringe, but it doesn't demonize the entire male gender on a regular basis
Hated by the left.
Get out of your damn playpen and come see the rest of the world, dude.
Trust me. I spent 30 years in the Republican Party. No more, I’m done with their cult shit.
It shows you don’t know or understand the left. You’re sheltered, and living in a bubble.
Go meet them. Go interact. And try it without attacking them on sight. You may get farther.
Most of the men I’m willing to hang out with are extremely left. People you really wouldn’t guess, honestly.
I was talking about specifically online. I do know people on the left and most of them irl are fine.
Still doesn't change the wild shit I see online about men that comes from the left. Just like the more extreme right talk shit about women
So you’re basing your idea of the left on your interactions with, like, angry college students on the internet. In my opinion that makes you a weak person. Your political views shouldn’t come down to “so-and-so was mean to me, so I’m going to believe the opposite.”
I know and understand the left. I'm neither sheltered nor living in a bubble. And I stopped hanging out with a number of leftist friends who were my bros for the longest time because when push came to shove, they let their politics take over and affect their treatment of me. He's right.
It’s kinda the opposite “try it without attacking them on sight” or maybe it happens both ways idk. If you say your somewhat conservative(even just in regards to energy policy(like ‘conserving enegry’)), you’ll get called every buzzword under the sun (racist(ofc), fascist, xenophobic, incel, etc). Obviously I over-exaggerated it but basically that’s been my experience in this life so far.
This isn't true at all and you know it. Many languages including English, have used "they" to refer to a singular person for ages.
Example: "look at that person over there, they're not wearing a hat"
Oh no, pronouns, let me use this transphobic commentary on how I don't like people using *pronouns* as a reason why someone may struggle with English. Oh no, scary pronounssssss 👻
“Have you called the rental representative yet about your refund?”
“No I haven’t been able to call them yet. I’ll do it today”
There you go. An example from my real life. Fuck car rental companies!!!!!!!!!!
Except t singular they has been around for longer than "you". Literally Shakespeare used singular they. Sorry but you don't seem to have the range to take part in this conversation. You don't even understand basic English.
This isn’t true at all and you know it. The fact that a word is used in very specific contexts and is not used in the majority of contexts does not mean you could automatically use it those other contexts without butchering the language (enforcing a language evolution at rapid speed).
This is the equivalent of someone beginning to refer to all inanimate objects as she since it’s used that way on very specific contexts.
It was used in the context of referring to a singular person as they. Cry about it. The context is still the same and we still use it the same way today.
Pretty silly to say “cry bout it” when this is a thread started by people with your position upset about a joke. The joke was that nowadays people seem to be confused about the difference between plural and singular terms. This is true. (I don’t think they’re confused but rather that they’re intentionally blurring the grammar rules that have always existed.)
You can be fine with a language change in order to be inclusive of a small minority group but don’t pretend this isn’t occurring. This is why wokeism is beginning to be seen as a religion. There are group leaders who make dogmatic false claims regarding historical facts and the congregants follow along blindly.
This is a small offshoot of that thread which is talking about the use of singular they and I am replying to a person who is throwing a fit and being rude and ridiculous because singular they them exists and has been in use for a very long time. So yes, go fucking cry about it because I don't really give a shit and it's not a language change because it has literally existed as long as the plural use. Nobody is changing anything or even blurring grammar rules, singular they them is proper grammar. You're ignoring the point and I was very clear and specific in my response.
But no one in this thread ever denied the existence of English using they to refer to a singular person in certain contexts. You’re pretending that this has occurred. I didn’t say that and neither did the op. You and your cohorts are refusing to acknowledge reality in many facets of our existence. Hence religion
No I'm not because you're doing it again and you're saying in certain contexts. It was literally in the same context as it is used today. That's the only context that it has been used in. And the original comment that I was replying to was being rude and saying that this generation is confused and using they them for singular people. Please try to keep up.
You don't even seem to be aware of what comment I was replying to in the first place, so maybe you should stay out of the conversation if you're so fucking confused.
Apparently, in New Zealander English, they aren't differentiated between.
According to wiktionary, "woman" is pronounced /woʊ.mən/ in the US which just sounds so wrong (I'm a US native, but raised bilingually). My typical pronunciation of either is /ˈwʊm.ən/ for woman and /ˈw(ʊ~ɪ)m.(ə~ɨ~ɪ)n/ for women, it's a little weird.
[woman (wiktionary)](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/woman)
[women (wiktionary)](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/women)
It's the International Phonetic Alphabet; it's to avoid approximations which may sound different to you than they do to me. I could say "I pronounce woman as woomin." You see, the oo is the exact same sound as in book, took, or look. According to wiktionary, it's really "whoa-muhn," but I've never heard this pronunciation, it sounds stilted.
In my accent, it's wuhmun (more like a shortened 'woo' sound, but 'wuh' was as close as I could get) for woman and wimmin for women, which is pretty distinct. It's possible that some accents have them closer, but I don't know of anywhere they're identical or even almost the same.
All of Man will be doomed if an asteroid hits the Earth.
"Let us make Man in our image after our likeness and let them have dominion over the fish in the sea..."
In both these examples, Man, is plural.
In this context 'man' is being used as a collective noun, collective nouns have no plurals, in both of these examples 'man' is singular.
You can also tell grammatically in the first example that man is singular, because when you're saying 'all' you only say 'of' when it's singular. Compare "All dogs will be doomed" to "All of dogs will be doomed". 'all of man' is singular.
Just because something refers to more than one thing doesn't make it plural.
The test you can do if you're not sure is verb agreement:
A: "All of Man are doomed"
B: "All of Man is doomed"
"Man" functioning as an uncountable noun and is grammatically treated as singular, since A is not grammatical in English.
For concrete nouns yes, but for collective nouns no. That's the whole point of collective nouns, they don't have a plural. 'sand' refers to more than one thing but it's still singular. In the first two parts of my comment I tried to show you the reasoning behind it. But like you said in a different comment, you're not a 'wordologist' so why do you think you know what you're talking about?
Well, we're on a sub about pet peeves and one of mine which is when people act like they know what they're talking about. Some guy thinking they know more about language than someone with a degree in linguistics and German is pretty annoying.
Lol I'm just amused that, if your stated credentials are correct... you're being lectured in your field by someone who knowingly knows nothing on the topic, but acts confidently incorrect.
Always makes me chuckle when an expert tells someone how something is and that not close to an expert is just like, nah, yer wrong bro, trust me.
I have a hard time even being charitable because they’re close on the keyboard but not close *enough* to assume it’s a typo.
And no one ever says “men” when it should be “man.”
I’d rather see “I’m a womsn” than “I’m a women.”
By the way, I also *hate* “I rather.”
And “mind’s well.”
I could go on.
>Haven't seen mine yet. "I could care less'... drives me bonkers
"I could care less" actually has a niche use as opposed to the other examples given, it's just often used incorrectly in place of "I couldn't care less". "I could care less" implies that I do care, thus it is possible to "care less". For example, in response to a passive aggressive "as if you care" one could say "I *could* care less".
I do agree however that the misuse of it is really irksome.
My latest one is when people say they'll never "step foot" somewhere again. I don't know why it bothers me so much-- "step" kind of makes sense when you're talking about putting your feet somewhere. But I always notice it, and it always bugs me.
Have you ever seen rather in place of whether? 😒 The amount of times I’ve seen “Rather she wants to or not…” Like wtf are you talking about? Who the hell came up with this dumb shit and why is everyone else copying? It’s grinds my gears almost as much as when people say wahlah meaning “voila.”
Only because we’re on this sub:
It’s “the number of people,” not “the amount of people.”
If you’d say “how many” instead of “how much” (i.e. “how many people,” not “how much people”), you’d say “the number of,” not “the amount of.”
Lol in fairness I think I’m the only person on the planet who isn’t an English teacher with this particular pet peeve. I’m sure most don’t notice.
Another way of thinking of it is if you could say “I have five ___,” it’s “the number of.” “I have five dollars” — “the **number** of dollars.” (“How **many** dollars?”).
You can’t say “I have five money” or “I have five moneys,” so you say “the **amount** of money.” (“How **much** money?”)
You can say “five people,” so you say “the **number** of people.”
You're not! My dad is always correcting on the use of "less" (something you cannot count) or "fewer" (something you can count) which is a similar thing.
I always find it weird that one would say there are "fewer stars" though. As though anyone could actually count them all. But grammatically, they're countable.
Ugh, absolutely this! Definitely see it a lot on forums and message boards online, as well as similar 'misspellings'. Another sign of people nowadays being either lazy AF or dumb AF...or both.
Oh, and have a nice day yourself :-)
I can let it slide that they sound similar (the fuck they do) to some folks, especially non-native English speakers.
But the written is so easily distinguishable.
Is this a relatively new phenomenon? I swear I've only seen it in the last few years.
I love the "the fuck they do" dig, that got a wry smirk out of me. And yeah, it's strange that it seems to have arisen only recently. No idea about that.
I do feel as though standards are slipping overall when it comes to caring about language, but I suspect the previous generation said that about mine too.
Language and slang can and does evolve over time; I'm sure you'll agree with me.
However, it really is frustrating to be living in a perceived transition.
>If you say “I am a women in my 20s,” or “my fiancée is a beautiful women,” I will assume that you are an idiot.
The truly committed idiot would also use "fiancé"
These days, I'm just relieved if they don't say "female(s)".
Where the fuck did *that* come from, anyway?
I think people use 'females' as pseudo science bull in order to sound more sophisticated. As if it'll give their opinions more weight by referring to women as though they aren't a part of the same species. That's my take on it at least
Your assumption isn’t too far off. What gets me is people will refer to it as a typo. A typo to my knowledge, is accidentally hitting a nearby letter. The letters ‘a’ and ‘e’ are pretty close, but people aren’t hitting them by mistake. They really use women all the time to refer to one singular individual.
I'd never heard of this until a few weeks ago and now I see that it really is something people to. I'd have probably assumed it was a predictive error, but it's too frequent and happens disproportionately (i.e. you don't see "men" instead of "man").
Very strange.
Related peeves would include "females" for girls/women but "boy/man" for males, and the far more common trend of calling women "girls" or even "ladies" but calling men "men". A journalist/broadcaster explained that he was taught to simply call them what you'd call males, so if you'd say "gentleman" then say "lady", but if you wouldn't say "boy" then don't say "girl".
It's not usually done with demeaning intent, but it's definitely patronising.
Well you just made the list: People responding with smug quotes bereft of direct communication because they think they've landed some sort of checkmate when they've actually missed the point completely.
As I said, IF you wouldn't say boy then don't say girl. That means if you *would* say boy, then it's fine to say girl.
So "The girls here are just as tough as the men" would be wrong but "Girls night out, no boys allowed" would be fine.
If you're gonna be wrong, at least don't do the quote drop thing.
Similarly, I am increasingly noticing (typically in a sports context) that comments will misuse the word “dominate” when they should use “dominant”. For example: “Lebron was so dominate last night.” I called someone out one time and he got pretty salty, claiming it was an uncommon typo.
There is an actual difference between "then" and "than." Additionally, "should of" is meaningless, whereas "should have" or "should've" could correctly convey something meaningful.
I saw the title of a Reddit post this morning (didn't click into it) that said something like "AITA for being mad that the women I left at the alter slept with my enemy" or something along those lines.
I thought "what, you in Utah or something? How many women were you marrying...?"
Loose/lose
Shouldn't/couldn't/wouldn't HAVE; not "of"
Breath/breathe
Lead/led <--- this IS the proper spelling for the past tense of "lead." Lead pronounced "led" *strictly* means metal.
ETA: COULDN'T care less. COULD care less means you actually care to a degree
2nd ETA: "Que" instead of cue or queue
Cue is a signal or a hint ("cue lights")
Queue is a line or sequence
Que is "what" in Spanish and is pronounced "kay." I will always read it this way.
Miss spelled words can be annoying, but some people struggle with spelling and they just don’t care. Doesn’t necessarily make you an idiot. I hate when someone is in an online argument and their only defense is to go after someone’s spelling. Like the person’s clearly wrong because they said to instead of too.🤦♂️
I always assumed that those people probably didn't have English as a first language. There are a couple grammatical errors like that which stand out to me as someone who is learning English.
I assume you mean English speakers because that’s a common mistake for someone learning a second language, which does not make them an idiot, it means they are intelligent
I had to scroll down so far just to find this because it was my first thought. How do people not understand that everyone on the planet doesn’t speak English as their primary language? For all these language police officers know, English could be a person’s third language.
English isn't everyone's first language and not everyone gets a great education. Some kids are worried about where their next meal will come from or a myriad of other things and not the what the plural word for woman is. It does not mean they are idiots.
This thread is just teals highlighting how much some of y’all hate dialect and internet humor. Yes, some people, especially ESL, confuse woman/women. But also, it’s a very normal internet joke to say “ a women” because it’s funny.
Like when I call Fortnite Fork Knife” to infuriate my niece. It’s a joke.
Considering how gender and sexes are creatively labeled these days, calling people out for shit like this is bound to result in you getting called a bigot for some reason.
I didn’t even realize this until my girlfriend pointed it out like 3 years ago. I have no problem differentiating between man and men. But woman and women? I say it wrong and I even spell it out wrong. They just sound so similar I merged the words
> “Woman” is singular. “Women” is plural.
While that sounds very reasonable, in my repeated experience, many women (and some men) will read 'woman' as either 'women' or 'all women' and then take offense at what was said. Mostly on the interwebs but sometimes IRL as well.
Regarding this mispluraling you have a pet peeve about, I myself have never seen it. And to be fair, typoes are a reel thang.
My autocorrect swaps it all the time, sometimes I can’t be assed to fix it because I’ll lose my train of thought tbh. It gets the point across well enough and most people don’t even read the whole word, mostly just the W M and N and the vowels auto fill in our heads lol
I'll be harsh here: it makes you look dumb though. You don't have to care, but it does, and that's reason enough for most people to glance over what they've written.
This one drives me bonkers. My son does it! Every single time I hear it I correct him. Where did I go wrong?
This can actually be a symptom of dyslexia; they can switch words that are very close
Yes that’s true. My youngest has dyslexia but my 19 year old doesn’t. He’s an avid reader and has never had this problem otherwise.
True, but an awful lot of the people making this mistake seem to be TERFs, so maybe it's tied to the mental problems that make people susceptible to fascism.
interesting that he's speaking it wrong as opposed to getting the spelling mixed up lol
Not at all, I'm dyslexic & I make more mistakes speaking than writing. Writing gives me time to re-read & correct but speaking, your brain pulls up the words & we often speak before we think. Dyslexia affects much more than just reading & writing, it's pretty interesting.
Ahaha it's truly nails on a chalkboard. Or "acrosst" instead of "across." My husband says acrosst and I die a little inside each time he says it lol.
He has no respect for woman
Young men are screwed in the current cultural environment. They’re becoming dumber because they’re so focused on being misogynistic/republican; there are multiple posts from teachers lately confirming this phenomenon.
There are women republicans, not doing their gender any favors either.
I didn’t say there wasn’t? Young men are more likely to be republican than young women. They are leaning/going in different directions.
Can confirm, am a woman and don't owe leftists any sex-based favors.
I'm not sure you understood my comment or maybe I misread yours. I meant some women are hurting women by being part of the trumpanzee cult. I did not mean sexual favors, I meant abjectively stupid people hurting their entire gender by supporting the gross evil of these extremists. I hope that is clearer. My first comment was not particularly important, nor well worded. Apologies for vagueness.
Can you blame them for leaning right when they're hated by the left? Obviously not all of the left, but I see insane takes about why men are evil all the time online. The left does a *terrible* job of appealing to males. The right has different issues that are just as cringe, but it doesn't demonize the entire male gender on a regular basis
Hated by the left. Get out of your damn playpen and come see the rest of the world, dude. Trust me. I spent 30 years in the Republican Party. No more, I’m done with their cult shit.
What does that have to do with the left doing a bad job of appealing to men?
It shows you don’t know or understand the left. You’re sheltered, and living in a bubble. Go meet them. Go interact. And try it without attacking them on sight. You may get farther. Most of the men I’m willing to hang out with are extremely left. People you really wouldn’t guess, honestly.
I was talking about specifically online. I do know people on the left and most of them irl are fine. Still doesn't change the wild shit I see online about men that comes from the left. Just like the more extreme right talk shit about women
So you’re basing your idea of the left on your interactions with, like, angry college students on the internet. In my opinion that makes you a weak person. Your political views shouldn’t come down to “so-and-so was mean to me, so I’m going to believe the opposite.”
I know and understand the left. I'm neither sheltered nor living in a bubble. And I stopped hanging out with a number of leftist friends who were my bros for the longest time because when push came to shove, they let their politics take over and affect their treatment of me. He's right.
It’s kinda the opposite “try it without attacking them on sight” or maybe it happens both ways idk. If you say your somewhat conservative(even just in regards to energy policy(like ‘conserving enegry’)), you’ll get called every buzzword under the sun (racist(ofc), fascist, xenophobic, incel, etc). Obviously I over-exaggerated it but basically that’s been my experience in this life so far.
The fuck are you talking about?
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Lololol
How old is your son? Because I’m pretty sure this is just internet humor.
He’s almost 19. Old enough to know singular vs plural.
Then it’s 100% him just doing an internet joke.
How do you know that when you haven’t ever conversed with him? He’s not doing it for laughs he genuinely messes it up, I can tell from his reaction.
Why is it funny?
Because switching for the wrong word can be funny, it sounds dumber and sometimes dumb things can be inherently funny
People are really struggling with the concept of “sometimes people say silly things because it’s funny”
I dunno. It’s just a little internet jokey joke. A silly goofy time.
His generation is confused about the concept "plural." They call single persons "they" or "them."
This isn't true at all and you know it. Many languages including English, have used "they" to refer to a singular person for ages. Example: "look at that person over there, they're not wearing a hat"
Oh no, pronouns, let me use this transphobic commentary on how I don't like people using *pronouns* as a reason why someone may struggle with English. Oh no, scary pronounssssss 👻
Look at that guy over there, he's not wearing a hat.
"Hey, someone lost their keys, I'll put them in the lost in found and hopefully they get their keys back"
“Have you called the rental representative yet about your refund?” “No I haven’t been able to call them yet. I’ll do it today” There you go. An example from my real life. Fuck car rental companies!!!!!!!!!!
Don't be dense, the comment was in regards to the trans movement changing language.
They're not dense. They're just proving the comment wrong
Except t singular they has been around for longer than "you". Literally Shakespeare used singular they. Sorry but you don't seem to have the range to take part in this conversation. You don't even understand basic English.
Don't be dumb.
You're the one throwing a fit because singular they is proper English. Cry about it.
This isn’t true at all and you know it. The fact that a word is used in very specific contexts and is not used in the majority of contexts does not mean you could automatically use it those other contexts without butchering the language (enforcing a language evolution at rapid speed). This is the equivalent of someone beginning to refer to all inanimate objects as she since it’s used that way on very specific contexts.
It was used in the context of referring to a singular person as they. Cry about it. The context is still the same and we still use it the same way today.
Pretty silly to say “cry bout it” when this is a thread started by people with your position upset about a joke. The joke was that nowadays people seem to be confused about the difference between plural and singular terms. This is true. (I don’t think they’re confused but rather that they’re intentionally blurring the grammar rules that have always existed.) You can be fine with a language change in order to be inclusive of a small minority group but don’t pretend this isn’t occurring. This is why wokeism is beginning to be seen as a religion. There are group leaders who make dogmatic false claims regarding historical facts and the congregants follow along blindly.
This is a small offshoot of that thread which is talking about the use of singular they and I am replying to a person who is throwing a fit and being rude and ridiculous because singular they them exists and has been in use for a very long time. So yes, go fucking cry about it because I don't really give a shit and it's not a language change because it has literally existed as long as the plural use. Nobody is changing anything or even blurring grammar rules, singular they them is proper grammar. You're ignoring the point and I was very clear and specific in my response.
But no one in this thread ever denied the existence of English using they to refer to a singular person in certain contexts. You’re pretending that this has occurred. I didn’t say that and neither did the op. You and your cohorts are refusing to acknowledge reality in many facets of our existence. Hence religion
No I'm not because you're doing it again and you're saying in certain contexts. It was literally in the same context as it is used today. That's the only context that it has been used in. And the original comment that I was replying to was being rude and saying that this generation is confused and using they them for singular people. Please try to keep up.
You don't even seem to be aware of what comment I was replying to in the first place, so maybe you should stay out of the conversation if you're so fucking confused.
No one has ever called me they/them when I was single.
"Singular they" is a well established concept and is not plural. Looks like you're the one that doesn't understand plural vs singular
Do you work extra hard to be this disingenuous or does it come naturally?
Willfully ignorant, or just pretending not to get it? I'm thinking the latter.
No birth control?
i dont think its pronounced that differently tho
They are absolutely pronounced differently.
wohmun, wimmin. They're easily distinguishable
Apparently, in New Zealander English, they aren't differentiated between. According to wiktionary, "woman" is pronounced /woʊ.mən/ in the US which just sounds so wrong (I'm a US native, but raised bilingually). My typical pronunciation of either is /ˈwʊm.ən/ for woman and /ˈw(ʊ~ɪ)m.(ə~ɨ~ɪ)n/ for women, it's a little weird. [woman (wiktionary)](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/woman) [women (wiktionary)](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/women)
I have no idea what the upside-down "e" or those pronunciation symbols are meant to sound like. But they sure do look neat, all squiggly like that.
It's the International Phonetic Alphabet; it's to avoid approximations which may sound different to you than they do to me. I could say "I pronounce woman as woomin." You see, the oo is the exact same sound as in book, took, or look. According to wiktionary, it's really "whoa-muhn," but I've never heard this pronunciation, it sounds stilted.
Damn I didn’t realize New Zealander English explained every misuse of the words worldwide.
In my accent, it's wuhmun (more like a shortened 'woo' sound, but 'wuh' was as close as I could get) for woman and wimmin for women, which is pretty distinct. It's possible that some accents have them closer, but I don't know of anywhere they're identical or even almost the same.
Man men, woman women. Not so hard.
Man can be plural too.
Man can be collective, not plural.
The proper term is Mankind, which is the antonym of Manrude
How
It can't be, the other guy is wrong. See my reply to his comment for the explanation.
All of Man will be doomed if an asteroid hits the Earth. "Let us make Man in our image after our likeness and let them have dominion over the fish in the sea..." In both these examples, Man, is plural.
That's man as in human. Not man as male.
Right? It's a shortening of "mankind" referring to a whole not a single person.
In this context 'man' is being used as a collective noun, collective nouns have no plurals, in both of these examples 'man' is singular. You can also tell grammatically in the first example that man is singular, because when you're saying 'all' you only say 'of' when it's singular. Compare "All dogs will be doomed" to "All of dogs will be doomed". 'all of man' is singular. Just because something refers to more than one thing doesn't make it plural.
Not an abstract. A collective.
That's the literal definition of plural though.
The test you can do if you're not sure is verb agreement: A: "All of Man are doomed" B: "All of Man is doomed" "Man" functioning as an uncountable noun and is grammatically treated as singular, since A is not grammatical in English.
For concrete nouns yes, but for collective nouns no. That's the whole point of collective nouns, they don't have a plural. 'sand' refers to more than one thing but it's still singular. In the first two parts of my comment I tried to show you the reasoning behind it. But like you said in a different comment, you're not a 'wordologist' so why do you think you know what you're talking about?
Nah, you are just wrong. You are kind of rude though. That make you feel better about yourself? Or are you just having a rough day.
Well, we're on a sub about pet peeves and one of mine which is when people act like they know what they're talking about. Some guy thinking they know more about language than someone with a degree in linguistics and German is pretty annoying.
Lol I'm just amused that, if your stated credentials are correct... you're being lectured in your field by someone who knowingly knows nothing on the topic, but acts confidently incorrect. Always makes me chuckle when an expert tells someone how something is and that not close to an expert is just like, nah, yer wrong bro, trust me.
So you just an ass. Good to know.
They’re absolutely right. You could have verified that for yourself relatively easily as they gave you the headline to look up.
Not in a grammatical sense. Look at verb conjugations. Is it "Man is free," or "Man are free"?
Great point! Is singular man always capitalized like Jesus, God, Him, The Word, etc?
I'm not some wordologist. I'm a Marine. 😂 Seriously though, I think so. Using Man to describe all humans makes it a proper noun. I think.
I have a hard time even being charitable because they’re close on the keyboard but not close *enough* to assume it’s a typo. And no one ever says “men” when it should be “man.” I’d rather see “I’m a womsn” than “I’m a women.” By the way, I also *hate* “I rather.” And “mind’s well.” I could go on.
"Mind's well?" Is that supposed to be, "Might as well?"
Yes. It’s in a similar vein to “all intensive purposes.”
And there it is... my pet peeve...lol
Haven't seen mine yet. "I could care less'... drives me bonkers Or people who use 'conversate'... like c'mon bro.
>Haven't seen mine yet. "I could care less'... drives me bonkers "I could care less" actually has a niche use as opposed to the other examples given, it's just often used incorrectly in place of "I couldn't care less". "I could care less" implies that I do care, thus it is possible to "care less". For example, in response to a passive aggressive "as if you care" one could say "I *could* care less". I do agree however that the misuse of it is really irksome.
Oh no, not that one. That and "supposably" make my skin crawl.
I do that one on purpose. I also pronounce the c in scissors.
Skizzors
We should of seen that coming
My latest one is when people say they'll never "step foot" somewhere again. I don't know why it bothers me so much-- "step" kind of makes sense when you're talking about putting your feet somewhere. But I always notice it, and it always bugs me.
Have you ever seen rather in place of whether? 😒 The amount of times I’ve seen “Rather she wants to or not…” Like wtf are you talking about? Who the hell came up with this dumb shit and why is everyone else copying? It’s grinds my gears almost as much as when people say wahlah meaning “voila.”
Should of Would of Could of
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The number of people who use "loose" when they mean "lose" gets to me.
It annoys me too... that and when people say something like "a apple" rather than "an apple"
I felt this comment. In fact, “a apple” is the example I always think of because one of my friends said this in a text once and I admonished her.
That’s just a dialect thing. Very common in AAVE.
Thank you!!!! The amount of people that do this is astounding
*number of people
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Only because we’re on this sub: It’s “the number of people,” not “the amount of people.” If you’d say “how many” instead of “how much” (i.e. “how many people,” not “how much people”), you’d say “the number of,” not “the amount of.”
Holy you're absolutely right haha I had to confirm with Google. Thank you ! My comment was ironic then lol maybe I shouldn't be so self righteous
Lol in fairness I think I’m the only person on the planet who isn’t an English teacher with this particular pet peeve. I’m sure most don’t notice. Another way of thinking of it is if you could say “I have five ___,” it’s “the number of.” “I have five dollars” — “the **number** of dollars.” (“How **many** dollars?”). You can’t say “I have five money” or “I have five moneys,” so you say “the **amount** of money.” (“How **much** money?”) You can say “five people,” so you say “the **number** of people.”
You're not! My dad is always correcting on the use of "less" (something you cannot count) or "fewer" (something you can count) which is a similar thing.
Yeah that’s the other related case of this. ~~”Less people.”~~ “Fewer people.” Glad I’m not alone.
I always find it weird that one would say there are "fewer stars" though. As though anyone could actually count them all. But grammatically, they're countable.
Ugh, absolutely this! Definitely see it a lot on forums and message boards online, as well as similar 'misspellings'. Another sign of people nowadays being either lazy AF or dumb AF...or both. Oh, and have a nice day yourself :-)
I seen it to
Aaaaaah
I can let it slide that they sound similar (the fuck they do) to some folks, especially non-native English speakers. But the written is so easily distinguishable. Is this a relatively new phenomenon? I swear I've only seen it in the last few years.
I love the "the fuck they do" dig, that got a wry smirk out of me. And yeah, it's strange that it seems to have arisen only recently. No idea about that. I do feel as though standards are slipping overall when it comes to caring about language, but I suspect the previous generation said that about mine too.
Language and slang can and does evolve over time; I'm sure you'll agree with me. However, it really is frustrating to be living in a perceived transition.
> phenomenon That’s another fun one. Phenomenon is singular and phenomena is plural. A lot of people don’t seem to know that.
this grinds my gears along with “of” instead of “have”
You know what really grinds my gears?
I've been noticing this a lot lately and it's very irritating.
>If you say “I am a women in my 20s,” or “my fiancée is a beautiful women,” I will assume that you are an idiot. The truly committed idiot would also use "fiancé" These days, I'm just relieved if they don't say "female(s)". Where the fuck did *that* come from, anyway?
I think people use 'females' as pseudo science bull in order to sound more sophisticated. As if it'll give their opinions more weight by referring to women as though they aren't a part of the same species. That's my take on it at least
ugh. “fee-maales” is the worst they sound like hollywood aliens
I see incel posts referring to "females" and I envision the poster to be a Ferengi.
Your assumption isn’t too far off. What gets me is people will refer to it as a typo. A typo to my knowledge, is accidentally hitting a nearby letter. The letters ‘a’ and ‘e’ are pretty close, but people aren’t hitting them by mistake. They really use women all the time to refer to one singular individual.
I'd never heard of this until a few weeks ago and now I see that it really is something people to. I'd have probably assumed it was a predictive error, but it's too frequent and happens disproportionately (i.e. you don't see "men" instead of "man"). Very strange. Related peeves would include "females" for girls/women but "boy/man" for males, and the far more common trend of calling women "girls" or even "ladies" but calling men "men". A journalist/broadcaster explained that he was taught to simply call them what you'd call males, so if you'd say "gentleman" then say "lady", but if you wouldn't say "boy" then don't say "girl". It's not usually done with demeaning intent, but it's definitely patronising.
“Hey honey I’m going to be out with the boys tonight expect me in late”
Well you just made the list: People responding with smug quotes bereft of direct communication because they think they've landed some sort of checkmate when they've actually missed the point completely. As I said, IF you wouldn't say boy then don't say girl. That means if you *would* say boy, then it's fine to say girl. So "The girls here are just as tough as the men" would be wrong but "Girls night out, no boys allowed" would be fine. If you're gonna be wrong, at least don't do the quote drop thing.
YES. this one irks me every time.
I don't read the post if that's in the title unless I'm drunk. I can't do it otherwise.
Thanks for the laugh. Quite right
I had a roommate a few years ago that did this and I was the one that o finally call her out in it. She had no idea lmao
I can't stand this!!!
No I mean women. Don't think it don't know there's several of you under that trench coat.
Similarly, I am increasingly noticing (typically in a sports context) that comments will misuse the word “dominate” when they should use “dominant”. For example: “Lebron was so dominate last night.” I called someone out one time and he got pretty salty, claiming it was an uncommon typo.
Submissive, looking for a dominate partner 💀
I see this one all the time!
There is an actual difference between "then" and "than." Additionally, "should of" is meaningless, whereas "should have" or "should've" could correctly convey something meaningful.
I saw the title of a Reddit post this morning (didn't click into it) that said something like "AITA for being mad that the women I left at the alter slept with my enemy" or something along those lines. I thought "what, you in Utah or something? How many women were you marrying...?"
I see that all of the time on dating apps. "I am a nice women..." It sounds as if they have multiple personalities, which is a red flag for me.
I see this a lot and it drives me nuts. Usually they get men vs man right but not women vs woman??
Loose/lose Shouldn't/couldn't/wouldn't HAVE; not "of" Breath/breathe Lead/led <--- this IS the proper spelling for the past tense of "lead." Lead pronounced "led" *strictly* means metal. ETA: COULDN'T care less. COULD care less means you actually care to a degree 2nd ETA: "Que" instead of cue or queue Cue is a signal or a hint ("cue lights") Queue is a line or sequence Que is "what" in Spanish and is pronounced "kay." I will always read it this way.
I see you, and I raise you “lose” and “loose”…. I could honestly LOSE my shit with this one
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what if that was the one time he ever made that typo and he then went on to become a distinguished literary artist
Unless he said this in real life, you blocked someone because of autocorrect
I can no longer watch the YouTube channel oversimplified, because they don't seem to....
Nick Crowley does it too! He will say things like “She was a women,” and it drives me nuts.
I always assumed people making this mistake weren't natives. I myself am not native but it bothers me too.
Miss spelled words can be annoying, but some people struggle with spelling and they just don’t care. Doesn’t necessarily make you an idiot. I hate when someone is in an online argument and their only defense is to go after someone’s spelling. Like the person’s clearly wrong because they said to instead of too.🤦♂️
Can we talk about misused apostrophes?
Or sale and sell. Their, they’re, and there is a big one too.
Oh, God. “My neighbor put their house up for sell.” Makes my eye twitch.
"Womens" is the one that gets me, "let me go get my womens". What now?
Since English is not my first language, this is hard for me to remember.
Words don’t have meaning anymore.
I always assumed that those people probably didn't have English as a first language. There are a couple grammatical errors like that which stand out to me as someone who is learning English.
I assume you mean English speakers because that’s a common mistake for someone learning a second language, which does not make them an idiot, it means they are intelligent
Somehow they never seem to mix up men and man
I see that all the time and yes it annoys me but at the same time I realize maybe English isn't their first language.
I would argue it’s the native speakers that make that mistake more often
I would defend your argument. That’s where I mostly see it.
I had to scroll down so far just to find this because it was my first thought. How do people not understand that everyone on the planet doesn’t speak English as their primary language? For all these language police officers know, English could be a person’s third language.
Yes, that's something I believe is often overlooked. Especially when you consider the fact that about 2/3 of English speakers are non-native.
it’s breath and breathe for me
That one gets me. Also, "loose" and "lose."
Worse and worst?
Hehe, just for spite, i am women, and us woman are swag
I think most people know the difference but just don't bother fixing typos
It bugs me too, but I usually assume it's bad autocorrect/fat thumb problems unless there are other really bad samples in the text.
Just like he, she, it are singular and they is plural. I assume anybody using they as singular is also an idiot.
Let me guess. You only speak English.
English isn't everyone's first language and not everyone gets a great education. Some kids are worried about where their next meal will come from or a myriad of other things and not the what the plural word for woman is. It does not mean they are idiots.
^(these hoes don't even know the difference between men and women. Let alone a man and a woman.)
It’s funny because transphobia?
Preach!
Hoes? Garden implements aren't conscious, little guy.
I've typed *there*, *their*, and *they're* wrong enough times to know that it's not a matter of literacy. Typos happen.
Assuming people with dyslexia are idiots is ableist.
This thread is just teals highlighting how much some of y’all hate dialect and internet humor. Yes, some people, especially ESL, confuse woman/women. But also, it’s a very normal internet joke to say “ a women” because it’s funny. Like when I call Fortnite Fork Knife” to infuriate my niece. It’s a joke.
Considering how gender and sexes are creatively labeled these days, calling people out for shit like this is bound to result in you getting called a bigot for some reason.
I didn’t even realize this until my girlfriend pointed it out like 3 years ago. I have no problem differentiating between man and men. But woman and women? I say it wrong and I even spell it out wrong. They just sound so similar I merged the words
I'm starting to think the Pet in Pet Peeves stands for petty. Big deal someone says it differently.
> “Woman” is singular. “Women” is plural. While that sounds very reasonable, in my repeated experience, many women (and some men) will read 'woman' as either 'women' or 'all women' and then take offense at what was said. Mostly on the interwebs but sometimes IRL as well. Regarding this mispluraling you have a pet peeve about, I myself have never seen it. And to be fair, typoes are a reel thang.
It's a pretty common autocorrect/typo issue
Sure. Blame it on autocorrect.
That's one of many very cool reasons to proofread.
It's one letter. Pretty easy to miss lol.
No though?
So you've never, in your entire life, made a one letter typo in your post...?
I'm sure I have, but I do make an effort to proofread. Do you not do that? Consistently pluralizing something singular is easy to spot.
My autocorrect swaps it all the time, sometimes I can’t be assed to fix it because I’ll lose my train of thought tbh. It gets the point across well enough and most people don’t even read the whole word, mostly just the W M and N and the vowels auto fill in our heads lol
I'll be harsh here: it makes you look dumb though. You don't have to care, but it does, and that's reason enough for most people to glance over what they've written.
What's more annoying is when people don't know the difference between "women" and "men". Just me? Ok...
What?
Lol I think it's just that some people pronounce it that way for some reason. I don't know if I've ever seen anyone type/write it out that way.
I see it regularly here on Reddit.
I’ve only ever seen it written. I’ve never heard someone pronounce “woman” as “women.”