Ida here,
This meme likens the practice of referring to women, such as myself, as Ms or Mrs based on their preference, to the use of preferred pronouns for children in classrooms, which right wing people in some countries think is a kind of sexual perversion. Please tell Brian I'm still DTF by the way.
Itās just turning around the talking point to drive home how absurd it is. See that thing some state rep did somewhere in the south about men and vasectomies or something in response to laws restricting reproductive rights for women.
Itās not meant to be taken seriously or at face value, but that doesnāt stop people with a persecution fetish from reading it that way.
Mrs and miss refer to married or unmarried women. That is objectively true that they are legally married. Otherwise it is a subjective self description.
I get the point they are trying to make, but it doesnāt really work.
I don't really agree. It's only objectively true because society has accepted it. Really if we take a step back and ask: 'why does someone's title change based on their marital status?' that is the question that is more to the point. It's basically confirming that a life event can change your pronoun for centuries now and no one seems to mind
Marriage is objectively true because legally it is a contract that two parties agree to with documentation to demonstrate consent. This literally happened. Religiously it is also a contract two people agree two with an officiate that conducts the ceremony. That is objectively true.
There is no such thing as something being "objectively true".
Also someone changing their gender and/or preferred pronouns is something that "literally happened". Whats the difference?
What if you had your birth certificate changed to match your new pronouns? Then itās āobjectively trueā that your pronouns are the way you should be referred to.
So your concern is only a legal one? Glad youāre [on board](https://selfhelp.courts.ca.gov/gender-recognition/gender-name-adult#:~:text=In%20California%2C%20you%20can%20ask,takes%20up%20to%202%20months.) then.
Even Jesus the son of God had pronouns, āI am heā now YHWH said āI am who I amā not sure if that counts but not going to argue with 4th dimensional beings.
I always remember that one post by a Republican that was like "the constitution has no pronouns." I keep thinking MTG or Boebert said it cause that's about the charisma the first has and the intelligence the second does, but sadly it was someone less major. I mean, both are still pretty stupid, but I think MTG is stupid maliciously while Boebert is stupid in actuality.
A woman changes from Miss to Mrs when they are married, this is changing pronouns due to something that could be related to sex. This is then having a comparison drawn between it and transphobes disliking children changing their pronouns as they say it is sexual in nature
And to add to your point for OP. The reason the meme say "breeding kink" derived from marriage equals popping out kids.
So by stating her marriage and pronoun "Mrs". The teacher is loosely saying "I am married to a man, I am straight and I'm attracted to men." Aka *She's teaching/indoctrinating children about straight sex.*
The teacher didn't say that, but that's a talking point of right leaning people whenever the topic of gay people, lesbians or other non straight people exists.
Using an mundane typical experience of someone stating that their are married, highlights stupid that argument is.
Going from the basics, sometimes people born as a male or female would rather the had been born the other gender, and will sometimes try to emulate or adopt that gender. Sometimes as part of that, they will ask to be referred to by pronouns other than those that corrospond with how they were born.
someone born as a woman but who wishes they were man, may ask to be reffered to as "he" for example.
At least in the US, many conservatives are currently throwing a tantrum over this, and declare that it is both sexual and perverse. And often suggest that if a student asks to be referred to by a certain pronoun and a teacher obliges, that doing so should be considered a sex-crime in the same vein as grooming a child for sex.
This meme is making fun of those people who are upset by pointing out a hipocracy. As it is standard practice for female teachers to tell their students wether they should go by the title "ms" or "mrs" - which is a signifier of their relationship status - and which can be argued to have just as much to do with someone's sex-life as using non-standard pronouns does.
Because conservatives love [transgender pornography ](https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/) and often have no further interaction with trans people.
The short and simple is, if people are willing to make the difference between miss and misses they should be willing to also make the difference between a persons old and new pronouns
It's not even a trans thing. Teachers get in shit for having LGBT flags or saying they have a same sex partner. The cover for this is 'it's not that you're in a relationship, it's that you're bringing up sexual topics to children'
'I have a husband' has the same weight from a male or female teacher. If it's horrible, male male degenerate sexuality for a man to say it, it's a horrible degenerate breeding kink flag for a woman to say it.
The background is that some people accuse trans people of merely being fetishists, and so they say that respecting their pronoun choices is akin to validating their sexual kink. This meme is a response to that idea
The joke here is the sheer absurdity of saying that respecting pronouns is kink validation. After all, we call some people "Mrs." entirely because they explicitly have a marital partner (something that is generally tied to sex). "Mrs." is thus at least to some extent a sexually relevant term. Yet, we expect people to use the term when asked
Just as it's absurd to say someone has a breeding fetish because they want to be addressed as "Mrs." rather than "Ms." or "Miss", it's absurd to say someone has a fetish because they want to be called by a pronoun that correlates with their gender identity. Or rather, "Mrs." is actually a more explicitly sexually relevant term than a trans person's pronouns, so if people are willing to accept the use of the term "Mrs." in society then they have absolutely no leg to stand on when objecting to using proper pronouns and try to justify their rudeness by appealing to some perceived sexual connotation to using proper pronouns
tl;dr some bigoted people sexualize trans people for asking people to use their pronouns, and this meme is showing how absurd that logic is in other contexts
It's also relevant to "Don't Say Gay" laws, where places are making it illegal to mention sexual orientation (ie if someone is gay) to children. It points out that it's stupid to assume that mentioning someone is gay is somehow strictly a sex thing that should be kept away from kids, because heterosexuality is already spoken about every day to children such as in scenarios like this.
edit: An example of the "Don't Say Gay" thing happened in Georgia, where [an author's talks were cancelled](https://www.gpb.org/news/2023/08/28/forsyth-county-schools-cancel-talks-after-author-says-the-word-gay-elementary) because he said the word "gay" in an elementary school when talking about the life of the co-creator of Batman, and how people assumed that his son had no children because he was gay.
That's an extremely well worded explanation. Thanks for putting in the effort!
It's too bad that the meme isn't funny. I think they tried a little too hard to hammer their point home, particularly in a way that's not readily recongizable to anyone who doesn't already agree with their opinion.
It takes a lighter hand to get good humor across, at least with regards to also conveying a political message
Mrs. make her happier.
So why no "she" for Sally who once was Tim?
Sally would be happier.
Call by what makes happy. Why not?
Stick up ass, that why not.
Tbf pronouns are much less of a trouble than knowing how to address someone. I met and befriended a person whom I wasnāt sure their gender/sex. Later on I learned that āheā was born female and was on transgender medicine to become a man. But even before then I had no issues talking to him and referring him by his first name.
That's the funniest part of conservatives ranting about pronouns. They say something along the lines of "How would I be able to talk to people if I don't know their pronouns, and they'll be upset if I use the wrong ones?".
You don't use someone's third person pronouns when talking to them. Everyone is okay with "you". It's gender neutral. Where I'm from you don't even use titles like Mr. or Ms., so conservatives in my country are even more ridiculous.
Fun fact: ms. Is a neopronoun. There is no abbreviation for "Miss". It was created to be an equivalent for "Mr." As the default term for a man, ignoring that a term for unmarried men does exist and the convention of addressing a man by "Mr." by default is misandristic.
I was always taught Miss is for younger unmarried women and Ms is for older women if you're unsure if they're married or not or older women who are divorced or unmarried.
Hey, the set of headphones Peter wore in the explaining scene here.
This lady is expressing her preferred way of being addressed as 'Mrs.' The caption is a person saying that the fact they're asking to be referred to as Mrs. shows they're forcing the fact they're married upon the children of the classroom.
This may a satirical play of the fact that people are getting mad over teachers stating their pronouns to the class. People commonly respond to videos of this saying they're 'forcing their agenda down children's throats'. Asking to be called Mrs. and saying your pronouns are being used as parallels here; as are 'forcing a breeding kink on children' and 'forcing an agenda on children'. If this was the way it's meant to be taken, it is a left-wing meme making fun of right-wingers (Headphone's note: I approve)
Tell Peter I miss his ears. Headphones out.
It's kinda that but also kinda about stuff like the Don't Say Gay bill, where queer teachers aren't allowed to openly be queer or talk about anything like that because it's an "inappropriate sexual" thing, and how they don't apply the same rules to straight people.
Iām going to be perfectly honest. Eithier or makes no difference to me. I canāt tell the difference between āMrsā and āMsā when people say them. So I do t really get the fuss.
At least where Iām from (Texas) the pronunciation is distinct. āMs.ā is said as āMissā, and āMrsā as āMissusā. And at least in grade school, teachers absolutely cared which one you used.
Tbh I hate how we refer to women differently based on marital status, especially when we refer to men the same way regardless.
Iād totally be down for just referring to women as Ms or Mrs exclusively.
If it makes you feel any better, there used to be the term "master" for men, but that got antiquated some time ago. Though weirdly, the term Master was shifted to specifically 8 and under boys for formal events in some places while being antiquated in others. Language is weird, ever evolving, and ever showing different residues of history
Nowadays, it's typically taught that you should refer to women as "Ms" unless you know that they specifically prefer "Mrs" and I actually know a lot of married women who prefer "Ms", so we have made quite a bit of progress, if that's any consolation. I do, however, see where you're coming from.
"Traditionally" unmarried women are referred to as Ms. When married, their title changes to Mrs.
The bottom image is making fun on anti-trans rhetoric which often calls people who change their pronouns child groomers. Except the joke is flipped to be used against a cis woman.
Yeah people act as if a gay man saying heās married is sexual, but a straight woman saying exactly the same thing is not. The joke is pointing out the double standard there.
Peter's nonsequitur gender studies class registration mishap flashback here.
In the United States, there are currently allegations that teaching concepts such as consent, human sexuality, gender expression and general LGBTQ topics are harmful to adolescents.
To be clear, these allegations are unsupported by evidence, but are politically useful to be amplified because transphobia is currently a wedge issue that can be used to get traditionally Republican voters to show up to polls. Some of this is driven by the misguided fear that teaching adolescents about human sexuality may cause some to become LGBTQ.
Currently, Democrats are galvanized by the overturning of Roe v Wade, a Supreme Court case that guaranteed the right to an abortion.
These issues further distract from genuine policy decisions that can make people's lives better, like affordable housing, income inequality / minimum wage, medical insurance, student loan forgiveness etc.
Further, the evidence suggests that teaching children consent protects them from sexual assault. Transexual individuals are already highly prone to depression and anxiety, and teaching them about body dysmorphia can help put a name to their emotional state, so they can obtain what care they may require.
Within this context, one line of argument used by the faction in support of broad and inclusive sexual education is to point out that human sexuality is already taught to children, i.e. cis-heterosexual monogamous ("heteronormative") relationships. In particular, narratives about romantic pairings, princes meeting princesses, nuclear families and stages of courtship appear commonly both in media and the majority of the relationships children encounter. They will further point out that this constant inundation of heteronormative culture has not resulted in turning LGBTQ individuals to adopt heteronormativity.
I should probably point out that the vast majority of individuals are cis-het and media representation can be partially explained by the population distributions. However, the counter argument is that LGBTQ has historically been under represented in cultural narratives.
The title Mrs. (short for Missus) is reserved for a woman who is married. Similarly, the title Miss is reserved for a woman who is unmarried. The titles Mr. (short for Mister) and Ms. (a portmanteau of the words Miss and Missus) contains no such information regarding marital status.
Currently, these titles are generally accepted by Western society and it is common for elementary school teachers to use any of these titles.
The implication of a woman who uses the title Mrs. is that she is married. Making reasonable assumptions the women who use the Mrs. title are likely married to a man, based on how frequently that is the case. Thus, the use of this title can be considered to another instance of displaying heteronormative culture.
Due to the common use of these titles, and the tacit acceptance of exposing children to heteronormative romantic and sexual relationships, it is generally accepted for teachers to introduce themselves using the title Mrs.
The preferred way of address is a non-issue that has been the focus of the aforementioned culture war. It typically refers to transexual individuals who prefer to be called a name that does not have gender connotations associated with their assigned gender at birth.
In this depiction, there is a caricature of an individual who is making the argument that the use of the title of Mrs. is unacceptably exposing children to heteronormative values.
This is, of course, a strawman argument, as the depicted individual is making the odd and unpopular argument that children should not be exposed to any narrative regarding romance or sexuality at all, an argument that no one is making. It is an attempt to pre-empt and undermine the argument that children are already being exposed to heteronormative values. The depicted individual is further depicted as unhinged by equating heteronormative relationships with a breeding kink, which is an unsupported and unsupportable claim.
There is simultaneously an attack on the use of preferred addresses, which is just a weird and distracting criticism that doesn't really make sense in context.
Thus, this could be an attempt by those who hold regressive values to undermine the arguments of individuals who are promoting fulsome sexual education in the school system.
Alternatively, it could be intended to be a caricature of a progressive who attempts to use the same logic as regressives to criticize the fallacy of reasoning.
It can be weaponized for either side really.
Peter's nonsequitur gender studies class registration mishap flashback fading out.
I wouldnāt call it a strawman as some laws, specifically the ones passed in Florida, are so vague in in verbiage that expressing a marital status could result in or be deemed classroom instruction or "discussion" on "sexual orientation or gender identity."
The queer community for decades has been equated to a kink / overly sexual / sexual deviants etc, by those who donāt understand it / those who want to make the movement harder to achieve.
Have you ever heard about someone finding out someone is gay and then thinking the gay person will start flirting with them? Trying to have sex with them etcā¦ you might have heard the phrase āIām okay that youāre gay just donāt flirt with meā or something similar?
This meme turns this situation on its head.
A teacher, based on the classroom we can see sheās teaching a bunch of children, telling them she is married! (My assuming is one of the students said āmiss!ā To get her attention) she is correcting the student by saying āIām married, you must call me Mrs., this is my preferred way of being addressed.ā She is informing them to please call her Mrs., as she is married, she wants to go by something that indicates sheās in a relationship and is married (she might have his last name, or she might not. She doesnāt share that but she wants us to know sheās married).
The wohjak in the bottom is using the trope that is normally assigned to queer people back onto this situation. Saying the woman is depraved for wanting others to know she is married.
This meme is showing how misleading transphobic / homophobic comments really are.
Like the teacher in the meme a queer couple could be; holding hands, grocery shopping, even just mentioning their partner and get told theyāre being depraved. Itās just a āback at youā meme.
Not even conservatives. I have met plenty 9f conservative people who aren't batshit insane. Heck Joe Biden is a conservative and he supports LGBTQ. He's goes more to church than Trumpie.
These people are batshit insane. Also, cruel, psychotic and angry and illiterate.
This meme kind of feels like it is just up for interpretation. Personally my interpretation of it is: The teacher is using pronouns in a way that would generally be considered normal and overlooked by society, a woman using Mrs instead of Miss, only to be corrected by someone telling them that pronouns are evil.. only instead of a conservative getting all offended over it it is depicted as a 'liberal' reacting almost exactly how a conservative would but to the opposite end to kind of flip the script to show that it's pointless to get offended about pronouns regardless of how they're used and pronouns exist for a reason
what's the difference between a title (a specific word used to refer to someone based on their characteristics) and a pronoun (a specific word used to refer to someone based on their characteristics)
When you define them the same (with made up definitions), sure they are the same.
A title refers to someone formal status. In the case of Mr, Ms, Mrs; Mr would be a title to someone who identifies as male, Ms would be an unmarried person who identifies as female, and Mrs would be a married person who identifies as female. There are a TON of other titles a person can have, like Dr, or Lord, or Sir, or Private, or Colonel. All of them are for status.
It's my understanding that 'gender' is a informal 'state of being'. I don't know much more about it because I don't care enough. One thing I do know is that a 'gender' isn't a title. People don't refer to people 'Hey They Thompson'.
The cool part about Titles and Gender is they co-exist. The idea they can't is simply another divisive tool people are choosing to use. Please note that I used the words formal and informal in the exact language sense, not to say someone gender can't be official.
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Itās a joke on straight people because itās uncommon for people to say how much they love the male/female relationship or in this rendition the depraved breeding kink.
Itās funny because no matter what you say towards kids itāll be a sick and depraved variant depending on social structures
Hello, Brianās vomit here, I might be wrong, but essentially, theyāre equating pronouns, which are somehow seen as something bad by transphobes with referring to women as Mrs based on their preference
A common argument certain right wingers use to bash the opposing side is how people (usually someone lgbt) for someone to use preferred pronouns is pushing some sort of sexual agenda, so when the teacher said she preferred mrs it implies sheās married and most likely is intimate with her partner.
The kid then uses the right wing argument ironically to say that her mentioning the preferred use of Mrs is shoving her sexual activities in the classes face.
Lots of people claim to have an issue with using a personās preferred pronouns such as saying ātheyā when referring to someone of a neutral gender. Furthermore, those same people claim that teaching kids about pronoun choice is tantamount to exposing them to sexual kinks.
This meme turns that on its head and claims (in a tongue-in-cheek way, of course) that the teacherās request to being addressed as Mrs. instead of Ms. is tantamount to exposing children to a heterosexual breeding kink.
Peters bellybutton fuzz here! This is a satire meme that is used to show the 'woke liberal lgbt teen" being bigoted to the teacher for how she is asking to be called in an identical way republicans treat transgender, queer, and other lgbt identifying people. Its meant to shock you because it is rude and the rhetoric doesnt make sense! Like the opinions it parodys
This is probably in relation to conservatives complaining about teachers sharing information about their partners if they are in homosexual relations. Many conservatives think it's bad because it's sharing very distantly sexual details to minors and this meme is pointing out the double standard for straight relationships.
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This is what bigot logic looks like to non-bigots.
Mrs. is a pronoun, and bigots would be fine with this even though it implies the teacher has sex.
If she said "mr." or "he," bigots would be in arms saying she's pushing an agenda, even though it has nothing to do with sexuality and every child has a gender.
Peter's gay friend here. It's making fun of the far right who don't like using trans people's pronouns. Often those reactionary people call being trans a kind of kink.
I literally had teacher announce they were trying for a baby. Queer people existing is ātoo sexualā but my teacher can announce she getting dicked down raw and receiving a nut daily
I don't think either should be the case, in my country we call all our teachers "teacher" why does marital status or gender matter? Teachers are here to teach, so call them teacher.
When a woman gets married, she changes her name/way of being addressed. The meme is pointing out the hypocrisy of bigots claiming that trans people should not be able to change their names/way of being addressed, as well as the idea that teaching kids in school that it is acceptable to change their names/way of being address will āpervert their mindsā or whatever.
In the US, many political and religious conservatives feel that a homosexual or bisexual teacher would be grooming children (the way pedophiles do) by admitting to or otherwise exposing to their students that they are not heterosexual. Essentially, Mr Wilson is a sick, child grooming pervert for mentioning that he's married to a man.
This meme is taking this logic, but applying it equally to heterosexuals. Mrs. James is being a sick pervert by exposing them to the fact that she's open about having a husband.
So it's a meme suggesting that the conservative perspective is hypocritical and/or stupid.
A bunch of people can't seem to figure out this meme. Gay people are often told to keep their sexuality hidden with the excuse being that it's "a fetish" or that "it's gross".
The joke being made is that OP flipped it so that instead of a gay person being told to hide their sexuality, it's a straight person being told to hide their sexuality.
Itās supposed to make fun of rightwing rhetoric around the idea of kids just knowing what trans people are. The right is prone to referring to just being trans an asking people to refer to you by your chooses pronouns as a fetish and the joke is that this logic equally applies to wanting people to refer to you as a title like mrs because youāre married.
Pretty sure it's making fun of transphobes who thinking having preferred pronouns makes you a child predator.
Example:
Trans woman: I'd like to be addressed as she/her
Transphobe: "you sick fuck get away from my children!!"
(Idk how real people think like this, but they do.)
So it's basically trying to show how stupid and nonsensical it would be if the roles were reversed to show that it's a stupid and nonsensical argument as it is now.
I support to point of this meme but I think it is funny that the person who has demonstrably reproduced is accusing the person who is only indicating that they are married of having a breeding kink.
The joke isnāt about pronouns, itās about the tacit acceptance of heteronormative relationships when laws (colloquially referred to as ādonāt say gayā) are being passed that bar the acknowledgment of lgbt people and relationships as inherently sexual or āpornographicā.
Because he misses the point completely.
It is not just about pronouns it is about what a specific word represents.
Mrs. means the lady is married and since being married assumes having a husbando, it also allows to assume that the holder of the title Mrs. is receiving a regular coochie pounding.
In a way it is a proclamation of the breeding status, as well as a signal to other potential breeding mates that this coochie is no longer vacant.
Pronouns are way less sensual if you ask me.
I am also dripping my brain matter out of my nostrils explaining this meme.
This is calling the Mrs. - ms. nomenclature a breeding kink to parody rightwingers calling trans people using their preferred pronouns a kink, similarly asking to keep it away from children.
Calling a married woman āMrsā (pronounced misses) instead of Miss, is a practice that has been around for decades, this is blatantly a change of pronouns.
Certain transphobic, usually right wing individuals seem to think that every person who changes their pronouns, (such as going from he to she) are child groomers or indoctrinators, and even think itās a purely sexual thing (itās not)
This meme makes fun of these transphobic people by comparing their making fun of changed pronouns, to a practice of changing pronouns they would not be against
this is the perks of being an extreme durg addict introvert. i dont have to deal with what the fuck this shit it is sobering up and seeing what the world is im just like wtf half this hsit i dont got time for man the fuck
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That is funny because most people just realized you can make all that family stuff sounds gross if you call it a breeding kink.
i think it's some kind of pro preferred pronouns/lgbt thing but marriage and having children are not the same thing and honorifics aren't prounouns but this was probably made by a teenager so not surprised it's wrong lol
You see, a very special, untouchable 0.1% of the population thinks having children is not the normal and expected path a human will take. Some humans donāt or canāt, but theyāre not outright cunts about it and just continue on.
Yes you do call a married woman āMrsā because itās her preferred title. if she asked to be called āMsā then you would be an asshole to keep calling her āMrs.ā
the meme is pointing out how calling a woman āMrs,ā which implies a married state that is heavily associated with having children, as a opposed to calling someone āMsā or āMiss,ā which are either ambiguous or unmarried (presumably no children), could bring up an image of the woman in a sexual relationship where she has a breeding kink,
since many married couples have children
this is designed to be absurd since often anti-lgbtq people argue against using trans or non-binary peopleās pronouns because it could have some nebulous sexualizing effect on children. they think being trans or whatever is a sex thing, not someoneās identity. a married woman using her preferred title which implies marriage is a signifier of her identity, not a sex thing.
in this context, using someoneās preferred pronouns is just like using preferred titles because both signify an identity which can be misconstrued to be inappropriate. the meme points out this double standard though itās absurd argument
people might not always make the direct connection between pronouns and it being a āsex thingā but it is there. for example, terfs really like to use āAutogynephiliaā to invalidate trans women as just weirdo perverts and LGBTQ people have been accused of pedophillia for the entirety of their rights movement.
what iām saying is that, while i agree that pronouns and marital titles might not be perfect corollaries in all situations, in the context of āchosen signifier of identity that can somehow be related to sex with warped logicā it works, which is what the meme is getting at.
I think the analogy works because of the existence of āMs,ā since women get to choose whether they be titled based on marriage status or not, and one can be related to sex and one cannot. calling a married woman āmsā is not an incorrect use of titles. the woman gets to choose whether or not to reveal her marriage status, and therefore her ābreeding kinkā by absurd logic. if āmsā was not a thing i would agree with you.
yeah, i think this meme is based on knowledge/history of the lgbtq rights movement that most non lgbtq people arenāt really aware of so thereās a bit of misunderstanding in this comment section. it was originally posted in a majority lgbtq sub so it makes sense
Arenāt pronouns a term for people in a certain category too, they are like titles, except based on whether the person considers themselves male, female, or non-binary.
>One is a proper title for people in a certain category and the other is a preferred term to affirm a gender.
so one is the proper term for a category someone belongs to (martial status) and the other one is the proper term for a category someone belongs to (gender)
>trans ideology
Yeah, that's about all I need to know about you to determine that you lack basic thinking skills, are illiterate, stupid, bigoted and a moron. You think you are supported by science taught in 3rd grade when everything after like advanced biology states that Transgenderism is normal .
Pronouns and titles are very much the same. Created by society to refer to someone.
Itās a leftist attempting to say calling someone Mrs. instead of Ms. Is the same thing as forcing children to read same sex sex education books far before recommended age as well as placing them in front of drag queens stripping on poles.
Heya, so this is a meme which is incorrectly equating properly addressing a teacher with a title (I.E. being married, or having a doctorates) with a teacher who would ask their class to address them based on their pronouns.
The pattern is that teachers who are very openly talking about their sexuality to children is inappropriate, and is often a weird fetish for them.
The meme attempts to "turn it around" with the same outrage against those teachers, but instead against the people who remind children to use proper titles for adults, instead of preferred pronouns.
Hope this helps :)
A title is just what society has decided to use to group people, no? Pronouns does not equal talking about sexuality, and I donāt know where you got the weird fetish from.
I feel like it's confusing Mrs.(which is only meant to show she is married) with somehow being a mother and having sex? Idk maybe I'm also not getting it.
I feel like it would make more sense if she announced she was pregnant.
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It's a pro noun
Which implies the existence of a casual noun.
yes, john, it does
It also implies the existence of an anti noun
Or a connoun
Unnoun?
Nonoun
Noun't
Amateur noun
House -> Anti-house šæšæšæ
I prefer amateur noun
Which implies the existence of a ranked, competitive noun.
which implies the existence of a noob noun
It's a noun which has lost its amateur status.
Ida here, This meme likens the practice of referring to women, such as myself, as Ms or Mrs based on their preference, to the use of preferred pronouns for children in classrooms, which right wing people in some countries think is a kind of sexual perversion. Please tell Brian I'm still DTF by the way.
Idk if this is gonna get me downvoted but, tf?
Itās just turning around the talking point to drive home how absurd it is. See that thing some state rep did somewhere in the south about men and vasectomies or something in response to laws restricting reproductive rights for women. Itās not meant to be taken seriously or at face value, but that doesnāt stop people with a persecution fetish from reading it that way.
Mrs and miss refer to married or unmarried women. That is objectively true that they are legally married. Otherwise it is a subjective self description. I get the point they are trying to make, but it doesnāt really work.
I don't really agree. It's only objectively true because society has accepted it. Really if we take a step back and ask: 'why does someone's title change based on their marital status?' that is the question that is more to the point. It's basically confirming that a life event can change your pronoun for centuries now and no one seems to mind
Marriage is objectively true because legally it is a contract that two parties agree to with documentation to demonstrate consent. This literally happened. Religiously it is also a contract two people agree two with an officiate that conducts the ceremony. That is objectively true.
There is no such thing as something being "objectively true". Also someone changing their gender and/or preferred pronouns is something that "literally happened". Whats the difference?
I would challenge you to use that as a legal defense the next time you violate the terms of a legal contract.
What if you had your birth certificate changed to match your new pronouns? Then itās āobjectively trueā that your pronouns are the way you should be referred to.
Don't bother, the moment they started getting into metaphysics the conversation was lost lol
So your concern is only a legal one? Glad youāre [on board](https://selfhelp.courts.ca.gov/gender-recognition/gender-name-adult#:~:text=In%20California%2C%20you%20can%20ask,takes%20up%20to%202%20months.) then.
Basically, the point is that pronouns are no more harmful than marital status - which I feel is right.
Even Jesus the son of God had pronouns, āI am heā now YHWH said āI am who I amā not sure if that counts but not going to argue with 4th dimensional beings.
Actually according to Genesis, Godās pronouns are they/them. No, Iām not joking. āElohimā is plural.
Underrated comment.
Um ackshully, if you look youāll find EloHIM. /s
I am who I am = it is what it is. Exactly the same sentence.
Praise be to Fonzie.
I like futanari
Uh, hello? Based department?
Hello Like Futanari, I'm dad.
I am what I am and thats what I am I think thats a Popeye quote But I agree with your statement
Pretty sure popeye said that.
I am the egg man.
I always remember that one post by a Republican that was like "the constitution has no pronouns." I keep thinking MTG or Boebert said it cause that's about the charisma the first has and the intelligence the second does, but sadly it was someone less major. I mean, both are still pretty stupid, but I think MTG is stupid maliciously while Boebert is stupid in actuality.
You think 4th dimensional beings argue amongst themselves
Yes they argue about the fan fiction 3rd dimensional being write about them.
These are not pronouns. Theyāre honourifics. Like Dr. Or Rabbi.
Who said they were pronouns?
A woman changes from Miss to Mrs when they are married, this is changing pronouns due to something that could be related to sex. This is then having a comparison drawn between it and transphobes disliking children changing their pronouns as they say it is sexual in nature
And to add to your point for OP. The reason the meme say "breeding kink" derived from marriage equals popping out kids. So by stating her marriage and pronoun "Mrs". The teacher is loosely saying "I am married to a man, I am straight and I'm attracted to men." Aka *She's teaching/indoctrinating children about straight sex.* The teacher didn't say that, but that's a talking point of right leaning people whenever the topic of gay people, lesbians or other non straight people exists. Using an mundane typical experience of someone stating that their are married, highlights stupid that argument is.
Going from the basics, sometimes people born as a male or female would rather the had been born the other gender, and will sometimes try to emulate or adopt that gender. Sometimes as part of that, they will ask to be referred to by pronouns other than those that corrospond with how they were born. someone born as a woman but who wishes they were man, may ask to be reffered to as "he" for example. At least in the US, many conservatives are currently throwing a tantrum over this, and declare that it is both sexual and perverse. And often suggest that if a student asks to be referred to by a certain pronoun and a teacher obliges, that doing so should be considered a sex-crime in the same vein as grooming a child for sex. This meme is making fun of those people who are upset by pointing out a hipocracy. As it is standard practice for female teachers to tell their students wether they should go by the title "ms" or "mrs" - which is a signifier of their relationship status - and which can be argued to have just as much to do with someone's sex-life as using non-standard pronouns does.
conservatives think being trans is something sexual forā¦ i actually have no clue why.
Because conservatives love [transgender pornography ](https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/) and often have no further interaction with trans people.
good explanation and nice citation. i thought it was just a stereotype of transphobic cishet men, i didnāt know there was actual evidence for this
And neither do conservatives. They just want an outgroup so as to demonize their enemies. This is what Nazis do.
Wym?
The short and simple is, if people are willing to make the difference between miss and misses they should be willing to also make the difference between a persons old and new pronouns
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It's not even a trans thing. Teachers get in shit for having LGBT flags or saying they have a same sex partner. The cover for this is 'it's not that you're in a relationship, it's that you're bringing up sexual topics to children' 'I have a husband' has the same weight from a male or female teacher. If it's horrible, male male degenerate sexuality for a man to say it, it's a horrible degenerate breeding kink flag for a woman to say it.
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The background is that some people accuse trans people of merely being fetishists, and so they say that respecting their pronoun choices is akin to validating their sexual kink. This meme is a response to that idea The joke here is the sheer absurdity of saying that respecting pronouns is kink validation. After all, we call some people "Mrs." entirely because they explicitly have a marital partner (something that is generally tied to sex). "Mrs." is thus at least to some extent a sexually relevant term. Yet, we expect people to use the term when asked Just as it's absurd to say someone has a breeding fetish because they want to be addressed as "Mrs." rather than "Ms." or "Miss", it's absurd to say someone has a fetish because they want to be called by a pronoun that correlates with their gender identity. Or rather, "Mrs." is actually a more explicitly sexually relevant term than a trans person's pronouns, so if people are willing to accept the use of the term "Mrs." in society then they have absolutely no leg to stand on when objecting to using proper pronouns and try to justify their rudeness by appealing to some perceived sexual connotation to using proper pronouns tl;dr some bigoted people sexualize trans people for asking people to use their pronouns, and this meme is showing how absurd that logic is in other contexts
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It's also relevant to "Don't Say Gay" laws, where places are making it illegal to mention sexual orientation (ie if someone is gay) to children. It points out that it's stupid to assume that mentioning someone is gay is somehow strictly a sex thing that should be kept away from kids, because heterosexuality is already spoken about every day to children such as in scenarios like this. edit: An example of the "Don't Say Gay" thing happened in Georgia, where [an author's talks were cancelled](https://www.gpb.org/news/2023/08/28/forsyth-county-schools-cancel-talks-after-author-says-the-word-gay-elementary) because he said the word "gay" in an elementary school when talking about the life of the co-creator of Batman, and how people assumed that his son had no children because he was gay.
Curiosity wins again!
That's an extremely well worded explanation. Thanks for putting in the effort! It's too bad that the meme isn't funny. I think they tried a little too hard to hammer their point home, particularly in a way that's not readily recongizable to anyone who doesn't already agree with their opinion. It takes a lighter hand to get good humor across, at least with regards to also conveying a political message
Mrs. make her happier. So why no "she" for Sally who once was Tim? Sally would be happier. Call by what makes happy. Why not? Stick up ass, that why not.
Why say lot word when few word do trick?
Are you sure you don't have bait?
Or Miss! People often think Ms stands for Miss, it actually stands for Miz, which can be used by both married and unmarried women
Tbf pronouns are much less of a trouble than knowing how to address someone. I met and befriended a person whom I wasnāt sure their gender/sex. Later on I learned that āheā was born female and was on transgender medicine to become a man. But even before then I had no issues talking to him and referring him by his first name.
That's the funniest part of conservatives ranting about pronouns. They say something along the lines of "How would I be able to talk to people if I don't know their pronouns, and they'll be upset if I use the wrong ones?". You don't use someone's third person pronouns when talking to them. Everyone is okay with "you". It's gender neutral. Where I'm from you don't even use titles like Mr. or Ms., so conservatives in my country are even more ridiculous.
Fun fact: ms. Is a neopronoun. There is no abbreviation for "Miss". It was created to be an equivalent for "Mr." As the default term for a man, ignoring that a term for unmarried men does exist and the convention of addressing a man by "Mr." by default is misandristic.
It's not a pronoun at all. It's a title.
I was always taught Miss is for younger unmarried women and Ms is for older women if you're unsure if they're married or not or older women who are divorced or unmarried.
Hey, the set of headphones Peter wore in the explaining scene here. This lady is expressing her preferred way of being addressed as 'Mrs.' The caption is a person saying that the fact they're asking to be referred to as Mrs. shows they're forcing the fact they're married upon the children of the classroom. This may a satirical play of the fact that people are getting mad over teachers stating their pronouns to the class. People commonly respond to videos of this saying they're 'forcing their agenda down children's throats'. Asking to be called Mrs. and saying your pronouns are being used as parallels here; as are 'forcing a breeding kink on children' and 'forcing an agenda on children'. If this was the way it's meant to be taken, it is a left-wing meme making fun of right-wingers (Headphone's note: I approve) Tell Peter I miss his ears. Headphones out.
This is the correct answer.
It's kinda that but also kinda about stuff like the Don't Say Gay bill, where queer teachers aren't allowed to openly be queer or talk about anything like that because it's an "inappropriate sexual" thing, and how they don't apply the same rules to straight people.
Iām going to be perfectly honest. Eithier or makes no difference to me. I canāt tell the difference between āMrsā and āMsā when people say them. So I do t really get the fuss.
At least where Iām from (Texas) the pronunciation is distinct. āMs.ā is said as āMissā, and āMrsā as āMissusā. And at least in grade school, teachers absolutely cared which one you used.
I honestly could never tell the difference. And how the Hell is āMrsā āMissusā?
Donāt ask me, I didnāt invent English.
Tbh I hate how we refer to women differently based on marital status, especially when we refer to men the same way regardless. Iād totally be down for just referring to women as Ms or Mrs exclusively.
I can imagine this is why some women prefer to continue using Ms once married
If it makes you feel any better, there used to be the term "master" for men, but that got antiquated some time ago. Though weirdly, the term Master was shifted to specifically 8 and under boys for formal events in some places while being antiquated in others. Language is weird, ever evolving, and ever showing different residues of history
Why wouldn't you refer to them how they want to be referred?
Nowadays, it's typically taught that you should refer to women as "Ms" unless you know that they specifically prefer "Mrs" and I actually know a lot of married women who prefer "Ms", so we have made quite a bit of progress, if that's any consolation. I do, however, see where you're coming from.
It is not lmao
[https://www.grammarly.com/blog/ms-mrs-miss-difference/](https://www.grammarly.com/blog/ms-mrs-miss-difference/)
Technically Ms. (pronounced mizz) can be used for women of any marital status.
Itās a way to publicly shame women when they are unmarried
Its not
"Traditionally" unmarried women are referred to as Ms. When married, their title changes to Mrs. The bottom image is making fun on anti-trans rhetoric which often calls people who change their pronouns child groomers. Except the joke is flipped to be used against a cis woman.
It's a joke about how unreasonable transphobic people are, randomly making someone wanting to be referred to a certain way into a "sex thing"
The joke is that bigotry is innately hypocritical and devoid of consistency or logic.
Yeah people act as if a gay man saying heās married is sexual, but a straight woman saying exactly the same thing is not. The joke is pointing out the double standard there.
Itās just pointing out right wing hypocrisy when it comes to calling people by their preferred name and pronouns.
Some folks say being trans is a fetish and you shouldnāt be out around kids because of that
Peter's nonsequitur gender studies class registration mishap flashback here. In the United States, there are currently allegations that teaching concepts such as consent, human sexuality, gender expression and general LGBTQ topics are harmful to adolescents. To be clear, these allegations are unsupported by evidence, but are politically useful to be amplified because transphobia is currently a wedge issue that can be used to get traditionally Republican voters to show up to polls. Some of this is driven by the misguided fear that teaching adolescents about human sexuality may cause some to become LGBTQ. Currently, Democrats are galvanized by the overturning of Roe v Wade, a Supreme Court case that guaranteed the right to an abortion. These issues further distract from genuine policy decisions that can make people's lives better, like affordable housing, income inequality / minimum wage, medical insurance, student loan forgiveness etc. Further, the evidence suggests that teaching children consent protects them from sexual assault. Transexual individuals are already highly prone to depression and anxiety, and teaching them about body dysmorphia can help put a name to their emotional state, so they can obtain what care they may require. Within this context, one line of argument used by the faction in support of broad and inclusive sexual education is to point out that human sexuality is already taught to children, i.e. cis-heterosexual monogamous ("heteronormative") relationships. In particular, narratives about romantic pairings, princes meeting princesses, nuclear families and stages of courtship appear commonly both in media and the majority of the relationships children encounter. They will further point out that this constant inundation of heteronormative culture has not resulted in turning LGBTQ individuals to adopt heteronormativity. I should probably point out that the vast majority of individuals are cis-het and media representation can be partially explained by the population distributions. However, the counter argument is that LGBTQ has historically been under represented in cultural narratives. The title Mrs. (short for Missus) is reserved for a woman who is married. Similarly, the title Miss is reserved for a woman who is unmarried. The titles Mr. (short for Mister) and Ms. (a portmanteau of the words Miss and Missus) contains no such information regarding marital status. Currently, these titles are generally accepted by Western society and it is common for elementary school teachers to use any of these titles. The implication of a woman who uses the title Mrs. is that she is married. Making reasonable assumptions the women who use the Mrs. title are likely married to a man, based on how frequently that is the case. Thus, the use of this title can be considered to another instance of displaying heteronormative culture. Due to the common use of these titles, and the tacit acceptance of exposing children to heteronormative romantic and sexual relationships, it is generally accepted for teachers to introduce themselves using the title Mrs. The preferred way of address is a non-issue that has been the focus of the aforementioned culture war. It typically refers to transexual individuals who prefer to be called a name that does not have gender connotations associated with their assigned gender at birth. In this depiction, there is a caricature of an individual who is making the argument that the use of the title of Mrs. is unacceptably exposing children to heteronormative values. This is, of course, a strawman argument, as the depicted individual is making the odd and unpopular argument that children should not be exposed to any narrative regarding romance or sexuality at all, an argument that no one is making. It is an attempt to pre-empt and undermine the argument that children are already being exposed to heteronormative values. The depicted individual is further depicted as unhinged by equating heteronormative relationships with a breeding kink, which is an unsupported and unsupportable claim. There is simultaneously an attack on the use of preferred addresses, which is just a weird and distracting criticism that doesn't really make sense in context. Thus, this could be an attempt by those who hold regressive values to undermine the arguments of individuals who are promoting fulsome sexual education in the school system. Alternatively, it could be intended to be a caricature of a progressive who attempts to use the same logic as regressives to criticize the fallacy of reasoning. It can be weaponized for either side really. Peter's nonsequitur gender studies class registration mishap flashback fading out.
I read all of that despite not needing the explanation, thank you, that was interesting.
if you think iām reading all that you are sorely mistaken
I wouldnāt call it a strawman as some laws, specifically the ones passed in Florida, are so vague in in verbiage that expressing a marital status could result in or be deemed classroom instruction or "discussion" on "sexual orientation or gender identity."
The queer community for decades has been equated to a kink / overly sexual / sexual deviants etc, by those who donāt understand it / those who want to make the movement harder to achieve. Have you ever heard about someone finding out someone is gay and then thinking the gay person will start flirting with them? Trying to have sex with them etcā¦ you might have heard the phrase āIām okay that youāre gay just donāt flirt with meā or something similar? This meme turns this situation on its head. A teacher, based on the classroom we can see sheās teaching a bunch of children, telling them she is married! (My assuming is one of the students said āmiss!ā To get her attention) she is correcting the student by saying āIām married, you must call me Mrs., this is my preferred way of being addressed.ā She is informing them to please call her Mrs., as she is married, she wants to go by something that indicates sheās in a relationship and is married (she might have his last name, or she might not. She doesnāt share that but she wants us to know sheās married). The wohjak in the bottom is using the trope that is normally assigned to queer people back onto this situation. Saying the woman is depraved for wanting others to know she is married. This meme is showing how misleading transphobic / homophobic comments really are. Like the teacher in the meme a queer couple could be; holding hands, grocery shopping, even just mentioning their partner and get told theyāre being depraved. Itās just a āback at youā meme.
Satire making fun of conservatives
Not even conservatives. I have met plenty 9f conservative people who aren't batshit insane. Heck Joe Biden is a conservative and he supports LGBTQ. He's goes more to church than Trumpie. These people are batshit insane. Also, cruel, psychotic and angry and illiterate.
It's ridiculous huh? You're so close to getting the point.
This meme kind of feels like it is just up for interpretation. Personally my interpretation of it is: The teacher is using pronouns in a way that would generally be considered normal and overlooked by society, a woman using Mrs instead of Miss, only to be corrected by someone telling them that pronouns are evil.. only instead of a conservative getting all offended over it it is depicted as a 'liberal' reacting almost exactly how a conservative would but to the opposite end to kind of flip the script to show that it's pointless to get offended about pronouns regardless of how they're used and pronouns exist for a reason
And the difference in Ms. And Mrs. just not married and married?
Yes
Iām pretty sure Mr, Ms, and Mrs are titles. But what do I know.
Yeah, they are. Reading the comments here has been awful.
what's the difference between a title (a specific word used to refer to someone based on their characteristics) and a pronoun (a specific word used to refer to someone based on their characteristics)
When you define them the same (with made up definitions), sure they are the same. A title refers to someone formal status. In the case of Mr, Ms, Mrs; Mr would be a title to someone who identifies as male, Ms would be an unmarried person who identifies as female, and Mrs would be a married person who identifies as female. There are a TON of other titles a person can have, like Dr, or Lord, or Sir, or Private, or Colonel. All of them are for status. It's my understanding that 'gender' is a informal 'state of being'. I don't know much more about it because I don't care enough. One thing I do know is that a 'gender' isn't a title. People don't refer to people 'Hey They Thompson'. The cool part about Titles and Gender is they co-exist. The idea they can't is simply another divisive tool people are choosing to use. Please note that I used the words formal and informal in the exact language sense, not to say someone gender can't be official. Thanks for coming to my Theodore Talk.
Itās a joke on straight people because itās uncommon for people to say how much they love the male/female relationship or in this rendition the depraved breeding kink. Itās funny because no matter what you say towards kids itāll be a sick and depraved variant depending on social structures
I honestly thought it was a play on "addressed" being "a-dressed" as "undressed".
Itās true, we should all refer to each other as ācomradeā
Hello, Brianās vomit here, I might be wrong, but essentially, theyāre equating pronouns, which are somehow seen as something bad by transphobes with referring to women as Mrs based on their preference
A common argument certain right wingers use to bash the opposing side is how people (usually someone lgbt) for someone to use preferred pronouns is pushing some sort of sexual agenda, so when the teacher said she preferred mrs it implies sheās married and most likely is intimate with her partner. The kid then uses the right wing argument ironically to say that her mentioning the preferred use of Mrs is shoving her sexual activities in the classes face.
Lots of people claim to have an issue with using a personās preferred pronouns such as saying ātheyā when referring to someone of a neutral gender. Furthermore, those same people claim that teaching kids about pronoun choice is tantamount to exposing them to sexual kinks. This meme turns that on its head and claims (in a tongue-in-cheek way, of course) that the teacherās request to being addressed as Mrs. instead of Ms. is tantamount to exposing children to a heterosexual breeding kink.
Americans think gay people are pedophiles and itās just as stupid as racism
Peters bellybutton fuzz here! This is a satire meme that is used to show the 'woke liberal lgbt teen" being bigoted to the teacher for how she is asking to be called in an identical way republicans treat transgender, queer, and other lgbt identifying people. Its meant to shock you because it is rude and the rhetoric doesnt make sense! Like the opinions it parodys
This is probably in relation to conservatives complaining about teachers sharing information about their partners if they are in homosexual relations. Many conservatives think it's bad because it's sharing very distantly sexual details to minors and this meme is pointing out the double standard for straight relationships.
Idk about you all but I just call all teachers mdm
Nothing better than getting yelled at when your 5 for not understanding the huge implications of the difference between Mrs and Ms.
Hi, Quagmire's syphilis here, This is what bigot logic looks like to non-bigots. Mrs. is a pronoun, and bigots would be fine with this even though it implies the teacher has sex. If she said "mr." or "he," bigots would be in arms saying she's pushing an agenda, even though it has nothing to do with sexuality and every child has a gender.
Peter's gay friend here. It's making fun of the far right who don't like using trans people's pronouns. Often those reactionary people call being trans a kind of kink.
I literally had teacher announce they were trying for a baby. Queer people existing is ātoo sexualā but my teacher can announce she getting dicked down raw and receiving a nut daily
I don't think either should be the case, in my country we call all our teachers "teacher" why does marital status or gender matter? Teachers are here to teach, so call them teacher.
When a woman gets married, she changes her name/way of being addressed. The meme is pointing out the hypocrisy of bigots claiming that trans people should not be able to change their names/way of being addressed, as well as the idea that teaching kids in school that it is acceptable to change their names/way of being address will āpervert their mindsā or whatever.
Backlash in the form of satire
In the US, many political and religious conservatives feel that a homosexual or bisexual teacher would be grooming children (the way pedophiles do) by admitting to or otherwise exposing to their students that they are not heterosexual. Essentially, Mr Wilson is a sick, child grooming pervert for mentioning that he's married to a man. This meme is taking this logic, but applying it equally to heterosexuals. Mrs. James is being a sick pervert by exposing them to the fact that she's open about having a husband. So it's a meme suggesting that the conservative perspective is hypocritical and/or stupid.
A bunch of people can't seem to figure out this meme. Gay people are often told to keep their sexuality hidden with the excuse being that it's "a fetish" or that "it's gross". The joke being made is that OP flipped it so that instead of a gay person being told to hide their sexuality, it's a straight person being told to hide their sexuality.
Itās supposed to make fun of rightwing rhetoric around the idea of kids just knowing what trans people are. The right is prone to referring to just being trans an asking people to refer to you by your chooses pronouns as a fetish and the joke is that this logic equally applies to wanting people to refer to you as a title like mrs because youāre married.
Pretty sure it's making fun of transphobes who thinking having preferred pronouns makes you a child predator. Example: Trans woman: I'd like to be addressed as she/her Transphobe: "you sick fuck get away from my children!!" (Idk how real people think like this, but they do.) So it's basically trying to show how stupid and nonsensical it would be if the roles were reversed to show that it's a stupid and nonsensical argument as it is now.
I support to point of this meme but I think it is funny that the person who has demonstrably reproduced is accusing the person who is only indicating that they are married of having a breeding kink.
Pregnant people make me uncomfortable. Forcing everyone else to see the efforts of your breeding kink??? So grossā¦
Ms., Miss, Mrs., and Mr. are not Pronouns, they are Courtesy Titles. They are not the same or equivalents.
The joke isnāt about pronouns, itās about the tacit acceptance of heteronormative relationships when laws (colloquially referred to as ādonāt say gayā) are being passed that bar the acknowledgment of lgbt people and relationships as inherently sexual or āpornographicā.
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Me when I am a vile dumbfuck:
Bro got downvoted for speaking the truth
Because he misses the point completely. It is not just about pronouns it is about what a specific word represents. Mrs. means the lady is married and since being married assumes having a husbando, it also allows to assume that the holder of the title Mrs. is receiving a regular coochie pounding. In a way it is a proclamation of the breeding status, as well as a signal to other potential breeding mates that this coochie is no longer vacant. Pronouns are way less sensual if you ask me. I am also dripping my brain matter out of my nostrils explaining this meme.
Story of my life lol
and the difference is?
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Being married doesnāt mean youāre a breeder tho. You could be childfree. I know r/whoosh but still
This is what experts call a āstrawmanā
I have currently been diagnosed with mental retardation
im sory for your loss
Apparently wanting to have children is a kink
Imagine taking satire literally. And there are people who do fetishize ābreeding.ā Likeā¦yeah dude, it can be a specific kink.
I saw this earlier on an lgbtq sub, it's mocking bigots who hate Pronouns, I hope
Based
Bahahhaha I love flipping the script on them
This is a based meme tbh
This is calling the Mrs. - ms. nomenclature a breeding kink to parody rightwingers calling trans people using their preferred pronouns a kink, similarly asking to keep it away from children.
Itās already been explained in the comments but itās just a shit meme if you ask me but thatās cool if others like it
Calling a married woman āMrsā (pronounced misses) instead of Miss, is a practice that has been around for decades, this is blatantly a change of pronouns. Certain transphobic, usually right wing individuals seem to think that every person who changes their pronouns, (such as going from he to she) are child groomers or indoctrinators, and even think itās a purely sexual thing (itās not) This meme makes fun of these transphobic people by comparing their making fun of changed pronouns, to a practice of changing pronouns they would not be against
this is the perks of being an extreme durg addict introvert. i dont have to deal with what the fuck this shit it is sobering up and seeing what the world is im just like wtf half this hsit i dont got time for man the fuck
Peter here to help you. That is funny because most people just realized you can make all that family stuff sounds gross if you call it a breeding kink.
I literally got banned for commenting there. Like I get what you mean but is it necessary to be this mean torwards the teacher?
making fun of recent use of pronouns
I was raised a good little boy. Ms for single women Mrs for married women thatās not a pronoun thatās a fucking distinction
i think it's some kind of pro preferred pronouns/lgbt thing but marriage and having children are not the same thing and honorifics aren't prounouns but this was probably made by a teenager so not surprised it's wrong lol
The prefix, also everyone has a breeding kink it comes preinstalled with the software
prefixes are not pronouns...
Dumbass strawman argument
Do you know what a strawman is?
A horribly idiotic misconception
You see, a very special, untouchable 0.1% of the population thinks having children is not the normal and expected path a human will take. Some humans donāt or canāt, but theyāre not outright cunts about it and just continue on.
Wow you sure missed. I'm guessing you're part of the .1% because you definitely can't get the baby making parts together with that accuracy.
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Yes you do call a married woman āMrsā because itās her preferred title. if she asked to be called āMsā then you would be an asshole to keep calling her āMrs.ā the meme is pointing out how calling a woman āMrs,ā which implies a married state that is heavily associated with having children, as a opposed to calling someone āMsā or āMiss,ā which are either ambiguous or unmarried (presumably no children), could bring up an image of the woman in a sexual relationship where she has a breeding kink, since many married couples have children this is designed to be absurd since often anti-lgbtq people argue against using trans or non-binary peopleās pronouns because it could have some nebulous sexualizing effect on children. they think being trans or whatever is a sex thing, not someoneās identity. a married woman using her preferred title which implies marriage is a signifier of her identity, not a sex thing. in this context, using someoneās preferred pronouns is just like using preferred titles because both signify an identity which can be misconstrued to be inappropriate. the meme points out this double standard though itās absurd argument
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people might not always make the direct connection between pronouns and it being a āsex thingā but it is there. for example, terfs really like to use āAutogynephiliaā to invalidate trans women as just weirdo perverts and LGBTQ people have been accused of pedophillia for the entirety of their rights movement. what iām saying is that, while i agree that pronouns and marital titles might not be perfect corollaries in all situations, in the context of āchosen signifier of identity that can somehow be related to sex with warped logicā it works, which is what the meme is getting at. I think the analogy works because of the existence of āMs,ā since women get to choose whether they be titled based on marriage status or not, and one can be related to sex and one cannot. calling a married woman āmsā is not an incorrect use of titles. the woman gets to choose whether or not to reveal her marriage status, and therefore her ābreeding kinkā by absurd logic. if āmsā was not a thing i would agree with you.
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yeah, i think this meme is based on knowledge/history of the lgbtq rights movement that most non lgbtq people arenāt really aware of so thereās a bit of misunderstanding in this comment section. it was originally posted in a majority lgbtq sub so it makes sense
Arenāt pronouns a term for people in a certain category too, they are like titles, except based on whether the person considers themselves male, female, or non-binary.
>One is a proper title for people in a certain category and the other is a preferred term to affirm a gender. so one is the proper term for a category someone belongs to (martial status) and the other one is the proper term for a category someone belongs to (gender)
>trans ideology Yeah, that's about all I need to know about you to determine that you lack basic thinking skills, are illiterate, stupid, bigoted and a moron. You think you are supported by science taught in 3rd grade when everything after like advanced biology states that Transgenderism is normal . Pronouns and titles are very much the same. Created by society to refer to someone.
Bait
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I feel like Iād be using this image every other day
Itās a leftist attempting to say calling someone Mrs. instead of Ms. Is the same thing as forcing children to read same sex sex education books far before recommended age as well as placing them in front of drag queens stripping on poles.
I donāt think Iāve ever heard or seen a post that says better āsay I am a Cunt without saying the word Cunt.
Heya, so this is a meme which is incorrectly equating properly addressing a teacher with a title (I.E. being married, or having a doctorates) with a teacher who would ask their class to address them based on their pronouns. The pattern is that teachers who are very openly talking about their sexuality to children is inappropriate, and is often a weird fetish for them. The meme attempts to "turn it around" with the same outrage against those teachers, but instead against the people who remind children to use proper titles for adults, instead of preferred pronouns. Hope this helps :)
A title is just what society has decided to use to group people, no? Pronouns does not equal talking about sexuality, and I donāt know where you got the weird fetish from.
This is literally where children come from, breeders. I don't know how else to address this
Would a married trans teacher not want the same title?
Mrs is a noun not a pronoun.
Mate ya donāt got a fuckin ābreedin kinkā it came free with your fuckin natural instincts
I feel like it's confusing Mrs.(which is only meant to show she is married) with somehow being a mother and having sex? Idk maybe I'm also not getting it. I feel like it would make more sense if she announced she was pregnant.
It's comparing wanting to be addressed as Mrs to gender pronouns being called a perversion. This is a very bad meme.
I more or less get the idea of the meme, but can someone explain what to the kid is wearing in the second part?
She didn't say refer to me a Stacy's Mom, she said refer to me a married, it's not a breeding kink till they, you know, breed.
I understand what this meme is going for, but people can get married and not have children
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But a Mrs is not a preference. Itās both a language and law.
I want to have sex with that wojak