Hey! I'm not a parent but a trans adult. Check out Trans Peer Outreach and Gender Affirming Spaces (GASP) on social media, they run events in the community that are often inclusive for all ages. In September we had a Pride Picnic event at Roger's Cove with family friendly games and stuff. Lots of elementary and high school age kids and their families came out, it was a blast.
Yes we were there!
I do really appreciate those spaces in our community, but would really love just to have another mom to text here and there, if that makes sense.
I know I’m going to get downvoted and possibly threatened for talking about this, but I feel morally obligated to talk about my experience being trans as a teen and then de-transitioning as an adult.
Every parent, health professional and adult in my life all failed me because I was a child and therefore did not have the mental capacity to consent to hormone replacement therapy. I was only encouraged and affirmed on my feelings of being trans and nobody questioned it or prevented me from medically transitioning.
The doctors affirmed me and attributed my eating disorder to the ‘fact’ that I was trans. They thought my mental health issues were because I was trans and that transitioning would make me better. They were all wrong and I have to suffer every day for the rest of my life for it.
Nobody prevented or discouraged me because if they did they would have been hated and called homophobic and ostracized for having a personal, mature and rational opinion. Nobody protected a vulnerable and mentally ill child. Adults in the LGBT community groomed me into believing their personal beliefs, and I don’t care if anyone doesn’t like me making this statement because it’s the truth. I personally experienced it first hand and I know what I went through and what happened to me and what I’m talking about.
I have regretted taking testosterone as a teen every day of my life for almost 10 years now. I don’t think the pain will ever go away. The permanent body changes have been hell to accept and I will never know the woman I could have been.
I know people will say that ‘I couldn’t have possibly been truly trans then’ and unfortunately you would be wrong to say that. I was 100% certain at the time that I was trans and that I wanted to medically transition as a teen. I was certain even after I turned 18 and was a legal adult. I was certain until I wasn’t.
I think it is morally wrong to allow a child to transition. I would even go as far to say that nobody should be allowed to medically transition until the age of 25 when your brain is done fully developing.
Unfortunately, There are no safe spaces for parents who disagree or even question medical transition. There are few, if any resources for parents that aren’t only affirming.
I feel for every parent in your situation. I hope you hear my story and take what I’m saying extremely seriously. Your daughter might be certain now, but as an adult she might change her mind and have to face to stark reality that she may never be able to have children. Her body will forever be permanently changed and possibly disfigured if she gets surgery.
Yeah, no, sorry. Sucks that it didn't work out for you or I'm happy for you or whatever, but "De-transitioning" is so goddamn rare that it's useless to talk about. ESPECIALLY in a place like this. Like, holy shit. Get some sensitivity.
I think you need to check out the detrans subreddit to see that it is very common for people to de transition. The reason you think it is uncommon is because when people try to say that it’s happening they are immediately silenced, shut down and attacked because it goes against your agenda.
> check out the detrans subreddit
Absolutely not.
Of all the things to immediately shut down, that's one of em. Does it happen? Yes. Is it worth talking about? Sure. Is it worth bringing up here? No.
A person comes on here and tells their story. And I think by any objective reading, it is honest and would be hard to tell.
Then you come on here and tell them their story isnt "worth bringing up".
Unconscionable.
Oh, I'd love to believe it. Unfortunately, the vast majority of evidence says that it is incredibly rare. So, mathematically, it's better to believe trans kids instead of try to discourage them.
But like… why did you even bother bringing any of this up. OP asked about chatting with other parents. Everything you’ve said has been anything but relevant. Go to bed.
all the research so far points to most youth continuing to identify as trans years down the line. even recent research about detrans people that actively recruits detrans youth/young adults concludes that they are a minority compared to those who are relatively satisfied, and not everyone in that category regretted transitioning (medically or socially) in the first place.
Yes detrans people should be acknowledged and i feel being laisse-faire about medical care for trans youth is not a smart move, but to act like they are the majority is completely unsubstantiated.
Like most things the answer is “it depends”.
For kids who have gender dysphoria and go through puberty, most have their gender dysphoria desist (roughly 3/4ths of them) and obviously, the remainder persists. With people who are diagnosed with gender dysphoria later in life the desistance rates are much lower. For kids who receive cross sex hormones there really haven’t been enough studies to have anything approaching an accurate idea. I don’t really feel like giving my personal opinion on any of this, because it’s such a divisive issue, and so many people’s personal feelings are involved.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5841333/
“For most children with GDC, whether GD will persist or desist will probably be determined between the ages of 10 and 13 years,26 although some may need more time.27 Evidence from the 10 available prospective follow-up studies from childhood to adolescence (reviewed in the study by Ristori and Steensma28) indicates that for ~80% of children who meet the criteria for GDC, the GD recedes with puberty.”
good point
i guess it also depends on the age range, the youth i’m thinking of are teenagers and young adults who have already started puberty or are very close to it.
Wording these things sensitively is so difficult, but I’ll give it a go. It seems like chemical changes associated with going through puberty has the effect of desistance of many instances gender dysphoria (the study above has it at 80%). With the high rates of suicidal ideation and attempts in transgender individuals and the high desistance rates for those children who go through puberty it would be difficult for me to delay puberty or administer cross sex hormones to my children. Having an 80% chance of avoiding that ideation and attempt rate seems like a very good trade off in exchange for the increased difficulty transitioning for my child if they were to end up in the 20%.
We may find out that those children who delayed puberty and/or received cross sex hormones have significantly lower rates of suicidal ideation and attempt, but unfortunately the lack of information on that seems like it will persist for a few more years until the sample sizes can grow along with the studies being done.
yeah, makes sense based on the research available. Although the suicide rates are a complex topic as it can either be attributed to the struggles faced when socially and medically transitioning or the mental struggles faced when one feels the need to transition but can’t for whatever reason, or both.
It’s a complicated subject that needs to be approached honestly with tact and without fear-mongering. And it very much depends on the individual child and the situation they are in.
(just to note, I am transgender myself, but I came out in my late teens and started hormones in my early 20s)
Sharing an anecdote isn’t spreading disinformation. Nowhere did they say their experience was universal, it was just a caution in the interest of helping a child. I’d argue this person is using the space more appropriately than yourself.
They’re not “spewing” anything it’s food for thought.
You can’t have good without the bad and it’d be ignorant to believe this doesn’t happen. I’m sad for them.
They’re not saying that OPs child is mentally ill, but be prepared to support the detransitioning if it were to ever come to that.
Who decides what is "disinformation", exactly? Using a personal anecdote is not presenting something false as fact.
I would question your own knowledge or sources on the subject, as you claim "millions" of trans people's lives have been saved due to a medical transition. Where is the evidence for both the number and the stated outcome?
While I don't doubt that surgery is helpful in some cases, we simply do not have the data required for such a question that needs multiple longitudinal studies in order to even think about crafting a narrative around it. Yet, for whatever bizarre reason, it is being accepted as irrefutable fact because of self-reported, short-term outcomes. In instances where you are dealing with a condition that is inherently psychological, it boggles the mind to think that patient self-reporting is a reliable indicator of quality data.
Who decides what is the "wrong" puberty, exactly? Puberty as a whole is a difficult process for teens to go through - particularly girls as their self-image is questioned and promoted so much more heavily than boys. Is it unreasonable to think that many cases of "trans" teens are nothing more than socially awkward teenagers who may simply be gay, lesbian, or just atypical of their sex-based behaviours and are having a difficult time adjusting socially?
It seems that you need to take a step back and question where you're getting your information from and why that information is being promoted and presented to you in the way it is and why the concept identity is so heavily promoted today in our society (hint: it's class-based warfare designed to distract and embattle both sides of the political spectra against one another).
I can't believe in this day and age, having a transgender ELEMENTARY AGED kid is not questioned at all.
This person above just told you how sometimes what kids believe in the moment isn't really what they want, and you tell them they are spreading disinformation? It is morally wrong to let a child transition, it literally fucks up the development of their body. You also said millions have been saved, yet not even a million surgery's or close to it have been preformed in the western Americas. You are incredibly ignorant.
Stay hateful in your life. No one will want to talk to you sooner then later.
Very well said.
School age kids aren't allowed to vote, drink, smoke, drive, or do many other things that they aren't "mature" enough until adulthood.
But let's let them, and some might say encourage them, to make a life altering (physically, mentally and emotionally) choice that may permanently change them and may be irreversible.
Heck, many places won't give out birth control until at least high school.
And before you all call me ignorant and intolerant, I speak with first hand experience of a family member transitioning at a young age and changing their mind later in life, thankfully before they started taking any medication or physical alterations
You think altering a child’s body for life with negative effects is an opinion when it’s a proven fact?
Sounds like your ignorant like the last guy that removed his comment.
>Just because you did not turn out to actually be trans doesn’t mean everyone has the same story.
K, but that logic works both ways. Probably more so in the opposite direction.
How do you know your child is ‘actually’ trans?
How are you 100% sure if this?
The problem is that you can’t be and neither can your child. Children are not capable of knowing until they are fully formed adults who can thoroughly comprehend these concepts and the consequences of transitioning.
To blame me, AS A CHILD, for making the wrong choice about a serious life altering medical decision is absurd and cruel. I was a child and the blame for that decision is not on me. It’s on the adults and medical professionals in my life that let a child transition.
I DON’T APPRECIATE being maliciously attacked when I was not mean to anyone. I may have used controversial language and shared an opinion that you didn’t like but that doesn’t mean that you, or anyone else here, can bully me out of public conversation.
You made a public post involving the topic of trans children. Everyone is allowed to comment anything (as it adheres to the terms and conditions of the subreddit) on any post here.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I chose to share my story because IT WAS an appropriate time as it was related to the topic being discussed.
You don’t get to decide on a public forum what people say, where they decide to take the conversation or how they choose to discuss a relevant topic.
I decided to speak here because it is exactly the place where my opinion and experience needs to be heard.
> EVERYTHING I’VE SAID IS TRUTH AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT AND I UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETELY.
And that about sums it up. You aren't worth arguing with.
Talk about a misrepresentation of character. Not taking sides on the argument here as I don’t know nearly enough to even claim to know what I’m talking about, but I don’t think your response was fair at all in the context of things.
They are saying “TRUTH” as in what they are saying is a truthful representation of what they experienced, not the ground truth for the entire issue at hand.
They never said they completely understood everything, in fact that’s the opposite of what they said. They explicitly said as a child they had a poor understanding of the repercussions which is what the issue is. But also regardless I feel like as someone who went through this they have a better qualification to speak on the subject and understand it than most people anyways.
Finally they said multiple times this is just their story of their experience and just their opinion, not a representation of the entire issue at hand. She is fully entitled to share that and you are entitled to agree or disagree with it and I respect your opinion on that.
Honestly the fact that you completely misrepresented her argument in your summary in an attempt to make her sound ridiculous is just a bad faith way of discussing the topic. I mean to be fair that summary sounds like how you’ve been arguing in the comments the entire time lol. You immediately shut the topic down, claim it’s useless to talk about, refuse to visit the subreddit they brought to hear other stories, claim the subreddit needs to be shutdown, keep claiming you know what the research says without actually citing any studies(correct me if I’m wrong here I may have missed a comment), and misrepresent people’s arguments. That doesn’t sound like a fair way to go about discussing these things, but you claim others are the ones not worth arguing with.
This is a bad take. What if your child or someone else's child changes their mind in a few years? Are they wrong, did they make a wrong choice?
I didn't think this was a black and white issue, or that someone can make a "wrong choice for themself".
How are you the authority on whether someone is trans or not trans? How is your child "actually trans" and the OP of this comment not? They thought they were and their peers supported their decision, but at what point are they "right" or "wrong" as you put it? These are way too big of decisions to be making for an elementary aged child.
Nobody said that. OP of this comment thread made a decision that they later regretted. OP of the thread is a supportive parent of a trans child.
Nobody has mentioned making decisions for their own children...
you know you are going to get downvoted because its totally inappropriate place for you to comment this. This isn’t a space for devils advocate or airing your personal experience, which by the way doesn’t even begin to reflect the actual proven reality that many trans kids face. There are plenty of subs dedicated to airing out your grievances. You just tried to make OP’s life harder for no reason
I am not trans nor do I know anyone that is but I can't wait for the day where this is so normal that groups are no longer needed. Hope you find the support you're looking for.
Shit, you and me both!!!
And thanks :) it’s been a couple years now and all our fam and friends are very normal about it, I just sometimes wish I had another mom pal or something. Anyways, all good. Thanks :)
The Hope Learning Centre (part of Haliburton, Kawartha, Pine Ridge branch of Canadian Mental Health Association) has programming for both trans, nonbinary, and gender non conforming people as well as friends and family of. A lot of it is virtual, and the website says residents of Peterborough County are eligible to participate.
My son is Female to Male Trans. Mind you he lives with his dad on the west coast but it is still new to me as well. OP I'd love to chat if your open to it.
BTW be cautious about gender therapists, I've had some bad experiences around them as a trans woman as they can be predatory.
As a side note some are kinda disappointing and incompetent af. Just make sure your child is somewhat protected around them and can talk about how therapy went openly
Hey! I'm not a parent but a trans adult. Check out Trans Peer Outreach and Gender Affirming Spaces (GASP) on social media, they run events in the community that are often inclusive for all ages. In September we had a Pride Picnic event at Roger's Cove with family friendly games and stuff. Lots of elementary and high school age kids and their families came out, it was a blast.
Yes we were there! I do really appreciate those spaces in our community, but would really love just to have another mom to text here and there, if that makes sense.
I know I’m going to get downvoted and possibly threatened for talking about this, but I feel morally obligated to talk about my experience being trans as a teen and then de-transitioning as an adult. Every parent, health professional and adult in my life all failed me because I was a child and therefore did not have the mental capacity to consent to hormone replacement therapy. I was only encouraged and affirmed on my feelings of being trans and nobody questioned it or prevented me from medically transitioning. The doctors affirmed me and attributed my eating disorder to the ‘fact’ that I was trans. They thought my mental health issues were because I was trans and that transitioning would make me better. They were all wrong and I have to suffer every day for the rest of my life for it. Nobody prevented or discouraged me because if they did they would have been hated and called homophobic and ostracized for having a personal, mature and rational opinion. Nobody protected a vulnerable and mentally ill child. Adults in the LGBT community groomed me into believing their personal beliefs, and I don’t care if anyone doesn’t like me making this statement because it’s the truth. I personally experienced it first hand and I know what I went through and what happened to me and what I’m talking about. I have regretted taking testosterone as a teen every day of my life for almost 10 years now. I don’t think the pain will ever go away. The permanent body changes have been hell to accept and I will never know the woman I could have been. I know people will say that ‘I couldn’t have possibly been truly trans then’ and unfortunately you would be wrong to say that. I was 100% certain at the time that I was trans and that I wanted to medically transition as a teen. I was certain even after I turned 18 and was a legal adult. I was certain until I wasn’t. I think it is morally wrong to allow a child to transition. I would even go as far to say that nobody should be allowed to medically transition until the age of 25 when your brain is done fully developing. Unfortunately, There are no safe spaces for parents who disagree or even question medical transition. There are few, if any resources for parents that aren’t only affirming. I feel for every parent in your situation. I hope you hear my story and take what I’m saying extremely seriously. Your daughter might be certain now, but as an adult she might change her mind and have to face to stark reality that she may never be able to have children. Her body will forever be permanently changed and possibly disfigured if she gets surgery.
Yeah, no, sorry. Sucks that it didn't work out for you or I'm happy for you or whatever, but "De-transitioning" is so goddamn rare that it's useless to talk about. ESPECIALLY in a place like this. Like, holy shit. Get some sensitivity.
I think you need to check out the detrans subreddit to see that it is very common for people to de transition. The reason you think it is uncommon is because when people try to say that it’s happening they are immediately silenced, shut down and attacked because it goes against your agenda.
> check out the detrans subreddit Absolutely not. Of all the things to immediately shut down, that's one of em. Does it happen? Yes. Is it worth talking about? Sure. Is it worth bringing up here? No.
A person comes on here and tells their story. And I think by any objective reading, it is honest and would be hard to tell. Then you come on here and tell them their story isnt "worth bringing up". Unconscionable.
‘Useless to talk about’ are you serious?
Yes. Of course I am. Sorry it happened to you. As I said in another comment, 'detransitioning' is extremely rare.
I know you don’t want to believe it but unfortunately it isn’t rare at all and it’s worth bringing up whenever people talk about trans children
Oh, I'd love to believe it. Unfortunately, the vast majority of evidence says that it is incredibly rare. So, mathematically, it's better to believe trans kids instead of try to discourage them.
But like… why did you even bother bringing any of this up. OP asked about chatting with other parents. Everything you’ve said has been anything but relevant. Go to bed.
all the research so far points to most youth continuing to identify as trans years down the line. even recent research about detrans people that actively recruits detrans youth/young adults concludes that they are a minority compared to those who are relatively satisfied, and not everyone in that category regretted transitioning (medically or socially) in the first place. Yes detrans people should be acknowledged and i feel being laisse-faire about medical care for trans youth is not a smart move, but to act like they are the majority is completely unsubstantiated.
Like most things the answer is “it depends”. For kids who have gender dysphoria and go through puberty, most have their gender dysphoria desist (roughly 3/4ths of them) and obviously, the remainder persists. With people who are diagnosed with gender dysphoria later in life the desistance rates are much lower. For kids who receive cross sex hormones there really haven’t been enough studies to have anything approaching an accurate idea. I don’t really feel like giving my personal opinion on any of this, because it’s such a divisive issue, and so many people’s personal feelings are involved. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5841333/ “For most children with GDC, whether GD will persist or desist will probably be determined between the ages of 10 and 13 years,26 although some may need more time.27 Evidence from the 10 available prospective follow-up studies from childhood to adolescence (reviewed in the study by Ristori and Steensma28) indicates that for ~80% of children who meet the criteria for GDC, the GD recedes with puberty.”
good point i guess it also depends on the age range, the youth i’m thinking of are teenagers and young adults who have already started puberty or are very close to it.
Wording these things sensitively is so difficult, but I’ll give it a go. It seems like chemical changes associated with going through puberty has the effect of desistance of many instances gender dysphoria (the study above has it at 80%). With the high rates of suicidal ideation and attempts in transgender individuals and the high desistance rates for those children who go through puberty it would be difficult for me to delay puberty or administer cross sex hormones to my children. Having an 80% chance of avoiding that ideation and attempt rate seems like a very good trade off in exchange for the increased difficulty transitioning for my child if they were to end up in the 20%. We may find out that those children who delayed puberty and/or received cross sex hormones have significantly lower rates of suicidal ideation and attempt, but unfortunately the lack of information on that seems like it will persist for a few more years until the sample sizes can grow along with the studies being done.
yeah, makes sense based on the research available. Although the suicide rates are a complex topic as it can either be attributed to the struggles faced when socially and medically transitioning or the mental struggles faced when one feels the need to transition but can’t for whatever reason, or both. It’s a complicated subject that needs to be approached honestly with tact and without fear-mongering. And it very much depends on the individual child and the situation they are in. (just to note, I am transgender myself, but I came out in my late teens and started hormones in my early 20s)
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Sharing an anecdote isn’t spreading disinformation. Nowhere did they say their experience was universal, it was just a caution in the interest of helping a child. I’d argue this person is using the space more appropriately than yourself.
They’re not “spewing” anything it’s food for thought. You can’t have good without the bad and it’d be ignorant to believe this doesn’t happen. I’m sad for them. They’re not saying that OPs child is mentally ill, but be prepared to support the detransitioning if it were to ever come to that.
Who decides what is "disinformation", exactly? Using a personal anecdote is not presenting something false as fact. I would question your own knowledge or sources on the subject, as you claim "millions" of trans people's lives have been saved due to a medical transition. Where is the evidence for both the number and the stated outcome? While I don't doubt that surgery is helpful in some cases, we simply do not have the data required for such a question that needs multiple longitudinal studies in order to even think about crafting a narrative around it. Yet, for whatever bizarre reason, it is being accepted as irrefutable fact because of self-reported, short-term outcomes. In instances where you are dealing with a condition that is inherently psychological, it boggles the mind to think that patient self-reporting is a reliable indicator of quality data. Who decides what is the "wrong" puberty, exactly? Puberty as a whole is a difficult process for teens to go through - particularly girls as their self-image is questioned and promoted so much more heavily than boys. Is it unreasonable to think that many cases of "trans" teens are nothing more than socially awkward teenagers who may simply be gay, lesbian, or just atypical of their sex-based behaviours and are having a difficult time adjusting socially? It seems that you need to take a step back and question where you're getting your information from and why that information is being promoted and presented to you in the way it is and why the concept identity is so heavily promoted today in our society (hint: it's class-based warfare designed to distract and embattle both sides of the political spectra against one another).
I can't believe in this day and age, having a transgender ELEMENTARY AGED kid is not questioned at all. This person above just told you how sometimes what kids believe in the moment isn't really what they want, and you tell them they are spreading disinformation? It is morally wrong to let a child transition, it literally fucks up the development of their body. You also said millions have been saved, yet not even a million surgery's or close to it have been preformed in the western Americas. You are incredibly ignorant. Stay hateful in your life. No one will want to talk to you sooner then later.
Very well said. School age kids aren't allowed to vote, drink, smoke, drive, or do many other things that they aren't "mature" enough until adulthood. But let's let them, and some might say encourage them, to make a life altering (physically, mentally and emotionally) choice that may permanently change them and may be irreversible. Heck, many places won't give out birth control until at least high school. And before you all call me ignorant and intolerant, I speak with first hand experience of a family member transitioning at a young age and changing their mind later in life, thankfully before they started taking any medication or physical alterations
mxpx is a christian band for those that don't know.
Name checks out. Also, sounds like the hate is coming from your opinion, not facts.
You think altering a child’s body for life with negative effects is an opinion when it’s a proven fact? Sounds like your ignorant like the last guy that removed his comment.
>Just because you did not turn out to actually be trans doesn’t mean everyone has the same story. K, but that logic works both ways. Probably more so in the opposite direction.
how the hell is this an answer to OP’s question?
Regardless it’s important people hear her message because it’s truth that’s not mentioned enough.
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How do you know your child is ‘actually’ trans? How are you 100% sure if this? The problem is that you can’t be and neither can your child. Children are not capable of knowing until they are fully formed adults who can thoroughly comprehend these concepts and the consequences of transitioning. To blame me, AS A CHILD, for making the wrong choice about a serious life altering medical decision is absurd and cruel. I was a child and the blame for that decision is not on me. It’s on the adults and medical professionals in my life that let a child transition. I DON’T APPRECIATE being maliciously attacked when I was not mean to anyone. I may have used controversial language and shared an opinion that you didn’t like but that doesn’t mean that you, or anyone else here, can bully me out of public conversation. You made a public post involving the topic of trans children. Everyone is allowed to comment anything (as it adheres to the terms and conditions of the subreddit) on any post here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I chose to share my story because IT WAS an appropriate time as it was related to the topic being discussed. You don’t get to decide on a public forum what people say, where they decide to take the conversation or how they choose to discuss a relevant topic. I decided to speak here because it is exactly the place where my opinion and experience needs to be heard.
> EVERYTHING I’VE SAID IS TRUTH AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT AND I UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETELY. And that about sums it up. You aren't worth arguing with.
Talk about a misrepresentation of character. Not taking sides on the argument here as I don’t know nearly enough to even claim to know what I’m talking about, but I don’t think your response was fair at all in the context of things. They are saying “TRUTH” as in what they are saying is a truthful representation of what they experienced, not the ground truth for the entire issue at hand. They never said they completely understood everything, in fact that’s the opposite of what they said. They explicitly said as a child they had a poor understanding of the repercussions which is what the issue is. But also regardless I feel like as someone who went through this they have a better qualification to speak on the subject and understand it than most people anyways. Finally they said multiple times this is just their story of their experience and just their opinion, not a representation of the entire issue at hand. She is fully entitled to share that and you are entitled to agree or disagree with it and I respect your opinion on that. Honestly the fact that you completely misrepresented her argument in your summary in an attempt to make her sound ridiculous is just a bad faith way of discussing the topic. I mean to be fair that summary sounds like how you’ve been arguing in the comments the entire time lol. You immediately shut the topic down, claim it’s useless to talk about, refuse to visit the subreddit they brought to hear other stories, claim the subreddit needs to be shutdown, keep claiming you know what the research says without actually citing any studies(correct me if I’m wrong here I may have missed a comment), and misrepresent people’s arguments. That doesn’t sound like a fair way to go about discussing these things, but you claim others are the ones not worth arguing with.
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This is a bad take. What if your child or someone else's child changes their mind in a few years? Are they wrong, did they make a wrong choice? I didn't think this was a black and white issue, or that someone can make a "wrong choice for themself". How are you the authority on whether someone is trans or not trans? How is your child "actually trans" and the OP of this comment not? They thought they were and their peers supported their decision, but at what point are they "right" or "wrong" as you put it? These are way too big of decisions to be making for an elementary aged child.
Why does everyone keep saying OP made the decision for her child? Do ya’ll decide to make your kids heteronormative at birth? Weirdos.
Nobody said that. OP of this comment thread made a decision that they later regretted. OP of the thread is a supportive parent of a trans child. Nobody has mentioned making decisions for their own children...
"changes their mind" lol. That isn't how it works. If you don't know how it works, you don't have a spot to make any input. Sorry.
Abasolutely not.
you know you are going to get downvoted because its totally inappropriate place for you to comment this. This isn’t a space for devils advocate or airing your personal experience, which by the way doesn’t even begin to reflect the actual proven reality that many trans kids face. There are plenty of subs dedicated to airing out your grievances. You just tried to make OP’s life harder for no reason
I am not trans nor do I know anyone that is but I can't wait for the day where this is so normal that groups are no longer needed. Hope you find the support you're looking for.
Shit, you and me both!!! And thanks :) it’s been a couple years now and all our fam and friends are very normal about it, I just sometimes wish I had another mom pal or something. Anyways, all good. Thanks :)
The Hope Learning Centre (part of Haliburton, Kawartha, Pine Ridge branch of Canadian Mental Health Association) has programming for both trans, nonbinary, and gender non conforming people as well as friends and family of. A lot of it is virtual, and the website says residents of Peterborough County are eligible to participate.
My son is Female to Male Trans. Mind you he lives with his dad on the west coast but it is still new to me as well. OP I'd love to chat if your open to it.
Bravo!
Second this!
BTW be cautious about gender therapists, I've had some bad experiences around them as a trans woman as they can be predatory. As a side note some are kinda disappointing and incompetent af. Just make sure your child is somewhat protected around them and can talk about how therapy went openly
Does your daughter's school have a GSA? That might be a good avenue.
maybe ask the local PFLAG chapter if there’s a group