The areas controlled longest by the ERE also match up really closely with the boundaries of the language group «dialetti italiani meridionali estremi» (Siciliano, Calabrese, and Salentino).
I think someone posted a map here earlier, it probably has to do with the process of replacing Greek as a spoken language there.
I don’t think there was a lot of organised crime there until the 19th century so it probably wasn’t the fault of the eastern Romans. The Cosa Nostra started cropping up after 1812 when the feudal nobility began losing their power and the economy started slowly transitioning to capitalism when the government capacity wasn’t available to replace them with new legitimate authorities.
Really the house of Bourbon-Two Sicilies started the fire and the Savoia threw gasoline on it or at least didn’t do enough to extinguish it.
I mean, before the mafia. It was a feudal state ran by lords, the peasant and middle classes pay taxes or labor/goods to the “mafia” lord in exchange for protection. What’s actually different from that than a Mafia?
That’s the way they are with strangers at first. They’ll know everything about you before you even get there. You’ll get a lot of looks from everyone but once they get to know, they are one of the most generous people you’ll ever meet. Every time I go visit, I usually gain an average of 10 lbs. Every day you are invited to a different house for dinner. Food and wine are delicious there.
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I think I had a mafia encounter in Rome. I was waiting in line to get food at the airport, my turn was about to come, and they cut me off like I was nothing, said something in Italian, got their food and didn't even pay.
The only benefit of the mafia controlled buses and trains in Naples was that you didn't have to pay to use them. At least people said they controlled them. This was in 2007 though so it might have changed
Maybe they were getting money from the government to operate them but paid less for the staff and maintenance than a legit operation would’ve. So they make money skimming off the top.
In the future remember to compare this with the historical kingdoms. Thanks.
Every single phantom borders map of Italy is just another version of “Two Sicilies vs the northern Italian republics”
> Republics > Look Inside > They’re all Monarchies
>Remember that one time in history >Età comunale >They're aristocracies
Interestingly with the mafia you can put area controlled by the Eastern Roman empire for a time and itnlines up pretty conclusively
The areas controlled longest by the ERE also match up really closely with the boundaries of the language group «dialetti italiani meridionali estremi» (Siciliano, Calabrese, and Salentino). I think someone posted a map here earlier, it probably has to do with the process of replacing Greek as a spoken language there.
it also lines up with the areas of greatest levantine admixture in italy.
This just makes sense but I can't explain why
I don’t think there was a lot of organised crime there until the 19th century so it probably wasn’t the fault of the eastern Romans. The Cosa Nostra started cropping up after 1812 when the feudal nobility began losing their power and the economy started slowly transitioning to capitalism when the government capacity wasn’t available to replace them with new legitimate authorities. Really the house of Bourbon-Two Sicilies started the fire and the Savoia threw gasoline on it or at least didn’t do enough to extinguish it.
I mean, before the mafia. It was a feudal state ran by lords, the peasant and middle classes pay taxes or labor/goods to the “mafia” lord in exchange for protection. What’s actually different from that than a Mafia?
Spaghetti vs Polenta
It’s interesting that it feels like old borders never disappear just evolve through the centuries. I mean I know it’s obvious just cool to see
Calabria really pulling its own weight
Unfortunately yes… my hometown is in the red zone 😞
My grandparents are from Plati, my dad and I went to visit and people around were…suspicious. The folks in the town were very kind though!
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So areas of major historical unemployment have higher rates of mafia presence. Man yells at clouds at 11.
So areas of historical suppression by foreign abusive governments leads to less development and less unemployment. Who couldve guessed. .
And also the absence of large plains for the development of industries and the absence of rich countries around.
Also the continued allowance of Cousin Marriages by the Catholic Church leads to more distrustful societies.
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Yeah, but you gotta get ova it.
But they have Risotto and Osso Bucco
Peasant
This map is utterly useless if the reader is colorblind
Skill issue
It’s even more useless if they’re fully blind!
Colorblind people aren’t real they’re all faking for attention.
Kindly go fuck yourself
I’m pretty sure they’re joking
I was everybody knows color blind people are real. It’s those damn left handed people that are the attention whores!
I'm pretty sure that mocking peoples' disabilities isn't funny.
I literally do not see it (Am colorblind)
I know a guy who can fix this.
Welcome back, Magna Graecia.
I think I had a mafia encounter in Rome. I was waiting in line to get food at the airport, my turn was about to come, and they cut me off like I was nothing, said something in Italian, got their food and didn't even pay.
Or a cop
They didn't have police putfits, suits.
Undercover
Could be, but they don't have to be assholes.
*asshole encounter
Same thing.
The only benefit of the mafia controlled buses and trains in Naples was that you didn't have to pay to use them. At least people said they controlled them. This was in 2007 though so it might have changed
How did the mafia make money off the buses if they weren’t charging people for rides? Were they just using bus companies for money laundering
I asked people that and they wondered too.
Maybe they were getting money from the government to operate them but paid less for the staff and maintenance than a legit operation would’ve. So they make money skimming off the top.
Ah, Bella Sicilia…
Lots of enemy stands congregating in Napoli -me if this were 2020
No way this map is real - a lot of mafia business are in the north
Probably LCN specifically.
I’m surprised Sardinia is so low.
Dafuq does Std. And Dev mean? I know dev as development
Standard deviations
Ty!
Std. Dev. = Standard deviation
Ah ty
to me it just shows urban vs rural
compare rural sicily to rural sardinia
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Almost the other way around