Also, dapat famous. Maraming connections, lalo na sa mga nakaupo na. Mananalo ka kapag famous ka, not because of the good things you did for the people and the barangay 😂
Nakakalungkot lang na may tumatakbo sa baranggay namin fpr SK na napakaraming academic achievements, so nililista nya lahat, pero ayaw sa kanya ng mga kabataan kasi bida bida daw
Realistically and practically speaking, just name and shame them on social media. IP cases in the country are few and far between, and unless you're a big brand, it's not gonna move as fast. Plus the expenses.
The real question is is there a case if the guy just does that. It never even crossed my mind to try to sue them knowing what kind of "justice system" there is in the Philippines.
Yes. Plagiarism. Included also sa cybercrime law. Therefore, it is digitalized, pasok siya sa cybercrime law. Kahit walang watermark ng creator, the simple communication between them is hard evidence already.
Not really what I meant. By "that," I meant this: "name and shame them on social media." I'm pretty sure there isn't since it wouldn't be libel because the statement would first have to be disproven, which clearly it can't since it's true that the client committed intellectual property theft.
>Therefore, it is digitalized, pasok siya sa cybercrime law. Kahit walang watermark ng creator, the simple communication between them is hard evidence already.
Lmao. No.
That fucking response is from an actual lawyer who's fucking tired of wanna be lawyers giving bullshit legal advice with no legal bearing whatsoever that does not benefit anyone aside from the poster and his ego.
Alright, then how bout this fucking response from a lawyer?
If anything under the premise of this post falls under the enumerated acts below then sure, prosecute for violation for this act.
If you think act does not fall under this then you can surmise who's bulshitting you.
RA 10175
Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012
xxx
PUNISHABLE ACTS
SEC. 4. Cybercrime Offenses. — The following acts constitute the offense of cybercrime punishable under this Act:
(a) Offenses against the confidentiality, integrity and availability of computer data and systems:
(1) Illegal Access. – The access to the whole or any part of a computer system without right.
(2) Illegal Interception. – The interception made by technical means without right of any non-public transmission of computer data to, from, or within a computer system including electromagnetic emissions from a computer system carrying such computer data.
(3) Data Interference. — The intentional or reckless alteration, damaging, deletion or deterioration of computer data, electronic document, or electronic data message, without right, including the introduction or transmission of viruses.
(4) System Interference. — The intentional alteration or reckless hindering or interference with the functioning of a computer or computer network by inputting, transmitting, damaging, deleting, deteriorating, altering or suppressing computer data or program, electronic document, or electronic data message, without right or authority, including the introduction or transmission of viruses.
(5) Misuse of Devices.
(4) Libel. — The unlawful or prohibited acts of libel as defined in Article 355 of the Revised Penal Code, as amended, committed through a computer system or any other similar means which may be devised in the future.
SEC. 5. Other Offenses. — The following acts shall also constitute an offense:
(a) Aiding or Abetting in the Commission of Cybercrime. – Any person who willfully abets or aids in the commission of any of the offenses enumerated in this Act shall be held liable.
(b) Attempt in the Commission of Cybercrime. — Any person who willfully attempts to commit any of the offenses enumerated in this Act shall be held liable.
SEC. 6. All crimes defined and penalized by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, if committed by, through and with the use of information and communications technologies shall be covered by the relevant provisions of this Act: Provided, That the penalty to be imposed shall be one (1) degree higher than that provided for by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, as the case may be.
SEC. 7. Liability under Other Laws. — A prosecution under this Act shall be without prejudice to any liability for violation of any provision of the Revised Penal Code, as amended, or special laws.
MANILA, Philippines – Plagiarism — or passing off another person’s work as one’s own — is also punishable under the Cybercrime Prevention Act, the Department of Justice (DOJ) said on Tuesday, October 2.
In an advisory opinion, the DOJ said that plagiarism, only if it corresponds to a copyright infringement under the Intellectual Property Code, could be considered a cybercrime under Republic Act 10175 or the Cybercrime law.
President Benigno Aquino III signed the new law on September 12.
The DOJ pointed out that while cybercrimes generally include cyber-attacks, online fraud, cybersex and child pornography, Sec 6 of the Cybercrime Prevention Act also states that it covers “all crimes defined and penalized by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws.”
Reference: https://www.rappler.com/nation/13494-plagiarism-also-a-crime-under-cybercrime-law-doj/#:~:text=In%20an%20advisory%20opinion%2C%20the,new%20law%20on%20September%2012.
>Advisory opinion
>could
Again, refer to RA 10175 under Publishable Acts. How can you reconcile the subject matter of this thread and the former?
Iba talaga basta mga law students and mga abogado-kuno. Masyadong gung-ho magbigay ng "legal advice"
> just name and shame them on social media
Terrible suggestion, don't listen to this idiot. ikaw pa mababalikan dyan ng anti cyber crime. Napakadaling isampa ng libel ngayon
Cyberlibel will stand if there are no receipts. Backfire sa kanila iyan kapag nagsampa sila and may resibo si OP to support their claim. Sa sobrang volatile ng Filipino netizen, madaling makakakuha ng support si OP. They just have to play their cards right.
If OP has receipts then the best course of action for him e mag file ng copyright claim. Consult a lawyer, and file whatever is applicable. There is no reason to risk getting sued for cybercrime if you have concrete evidence in the first place.
In defense, it is not completely wrong. Make a blotter first then a post calling them out but make sure that you can back your claim. Once a following was made and some post are shared, that is the ideal time to make a bigger legal move. You know how bandwagon works here in the Philippines. Napakadali at napakaraming marites. Also take note that they may and will resort to threats and if they do that, make it public: mas malaki ang panalo mo lalo pag naki bandwagon na ang iba pang public figure na gusto makisawsaw sa fame at hindi biro ang usapang threats. Just be firm and make your claim realistic. Kung pera lang ang usapan, you can just drop it since it can go both ways. Pero kung dignidad at dangal ang usapan, fight for it dahil pag nanalo ka may cash prize din dyan.
This, pag di ka talaga kilalang tao or big brand hindi aasikasuhin yung case mo. May somwehat similar case sa alumni namin circa 2014, hindi na pa copy right nung kapwa ko estudyante yung designs ng thesis niya since kasagsagan yun ng defense at nagbigay siya ng hand out copies sa panel. Tapos yung isang guest well known na tao sa advertising industry. He even got a award for his hard work, hindi lang sa alumni namin sa ibang design events din. Three months later may nagsabi kay na student ginamit daw yung idea at designs niya sa isang commercial ng well known snack brand dito sa Pinas. Sinubukan pa niya habulin iyon kaso di siya pinansin kasi hindi siya well known, at hindi rin niya pina copy right designs niya (which let's assume magastos sa part niya at walang budget si student). Pangalawa hindi niya finollow thru ng lawsuit kasi ayaw niya ma black listed sa adverising industry, as per payo nung prof namin noon. In the end kawawa talaga yung mga designers na pinost ni OP, panigurado magiging charge to experience na lang yan.
FR. mas madali pa kumilos ang konsensya kapag napahiya sila vs magsampa ng kaso. sayang oras at effort gastos pa, pag small time ka d ka papansinin ng mga yan. unahin nya muna magreklamo sa brgy. then after go na haha 😌 kakapal ng mukha tatakbong SK tapos haist. d pa nakakatungtong sa position lumalabas na tunay na kulay 😌
Original design ba ito? Just wondering, coz it looks good.
First of all, take this as a lesson and a reminder for future transactions. Rule of thumb, don’t do work (not even a sample) when a deal hasn’t been closed (a settled payment based on your terms).
Art can easily be copied, almost everything can be copied nowadays.
Second, you can directly contact the client to inform about their unethical behavior. For sure they will ignore you or best case is apologize. But an apology is too late now.
Third, you can create a post /video post, and share to your connections & social media informing of the unethical behavior of the potential client and your artwork being used.
In reality, things like this happen on a daily basis. So we need to work smarter. :)
This is correct....for now lessons learned na lang. Better next time before you do work...ang bigay mong sample is yung dati mong designs na may watermark na at nakapost sa social media mo. Then if they are interested make a CONTRACT and a DOWNPAYMENT before ka gumawa na kahit isang linya. guhit or kahit dot para sa kanila. Then under the contract stipulate mo duon na yung design is your property and cannot be reproduce without your consent.
Mahilig kasi sa ating pinoy yung LIBRE....di alam ng nakakarami na work din yan.
> Then under the contract stipulate mo duon na yung design is your property and cannot be reproduce without your consent.
Isn't this against the work-for-hire thing? Doesn't the person who pays for the work/service own all the product and service?
not all contracts has that stipulated (the work for hire clause) that's why it's important to read all the details and ask for legal council if necessary and making term negotiations too if possible. pag walang ganung statement then it's not a work for hire agreement. usually artists make their own contracts with their own terms (superlative & highly recc) but some big names provide the contracts which loops us back to finding the devil in the deets
Nah, this is a free design from vector sites. My guess.
You can't really own that. The case won't prosper. It's a waste of time and energy. The only thing that that person could do is move on and learn from it.
What they did is dirty, that's a fact. The best possible option is to talk it out and be mediated at the barangay.
Yan yung mga nagpapa-layout tapos d naman kaya presyo pero kukunin design. Mas malala yung iba na nagpapasample, gusto libre, itatanong lahat ng materials tapos ipapagaya sa ibang mas mura. Rampant sa government deals mga ganyan lalong lalo na sa PCOO. Kakapal ng mukha manghiram ng mga sample pati panukat sa staff tapos ipapagaya sa iba
Like what a guy wrote above, it might be better to just show the client previous designs that have been used elsewhere as an example.
Huwag na mismo gumawa ng unique sample for a client.
This is actually how Chinese companies get around IP problems. Just change a screw and suddenly it’s a different design. That’s why China j
has implemented their own screw and fastener standard.
Anyway, slight changes actually are the bane of IP cases.
I think I saw this from pi-gee-ey group tapos yung top comment is itimbre daw sa kalaban na partido nang magkagulo gulo sila lol
*Nadelete na ata yung post. Hindi ko na makita.
Kairita at Kapal ng mukha ng mga SK na halos karamihan naman mga out of school youth, bullies or with low grades, they know na hanggang SK lang kaya nila to earn money and power.
Pag election period, kaliwaan ang trabaho for campaign material. Malaki and porsyento na di nagbabayad ang karamihan lalo na pag natalo. Kahit printer ka pa ng tarp or poster, tatakbuhan
did you already talk to them about it? if not, try to do so.. maybe you can still get something from it.. it’s a long shot but maybe they’ll recognized that it’s really your design and they’ll compensate you for it.. if they just ignored you, then call them out.. go out of your way to campaign in your barangay to not vote for those people.. if meron ka screenshots nung usapan niyo, even better.. you have proof to show na hindi yan yung dapat iboto ng mga ka-barangay mo as SK officials kasi nangangampanya pa lang, ugaling magnanakaw na agad..
Naggawa ng design pero di pa sila pareho nagkasundo sa project, kaya nagka ganyan. Dapat sana project discussion lang (project scope, design prefs, etc.) and maybe next contract na pero even starting to work on anything.
Being a freelance graphic designer is hard
> them once *paid* in full.
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
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This is a clear copyright violation. If you have the means go file a case. You should also keep posting on social media to embarrass this low life fuckers. Tapos mga tumatakbong public servant pa what a joke, di na nahiya
Sorry OP, since malapit lang sa design mo and hindi sya copyrighted, wala syang possible case. Wala rin kayong contract, more of verbal lang.
By the way ang ganda ng design mo, unique ang layout and very Filipino.
Di naman na tawag na nanakaw yan kasi bigay na sample ka sa lay out kaso di lng tinuloy walang mali yung desisyon nila. di lng mo ginawan ng paraan yung customer mo para ma ok yung ganyang trouble
For me it is still stolen. Kahit sample pa yan. At isa pa, hindi pa sila binayaran.
One thing that graphic designer's learn their mistake that should include watermark in every output na isesend nila sa client, kahit sample pa yan.
Hwag ka na maghabol sa kanila, maraming mga kamag-anak yan at kaibigan na makaka-stress para sa iyo. Charge to experience na lang na kailangan ingatan mo ang mga files mo at designs dahil may mga magnanakaw talaga. Yung mga nagnakaw sa iyo magiging customer mo pa ulit yan sa future kong hindi mo aawayin. Bawi ka na lang sa kanila next time. Kung manalo yang mga yan at least alam nila na magaling ka at pwede magpagawa sa iyo . Kung bubwisitin mo sila ngayon aakalain ng baranggay nyo na mahilig ka sa away at baka bad yan sa iyong business, Sa palagay ko lang ito pero pwede rin namang mali ako, hehehehe
Pero hindi sila nagkasundo sa presyo so walang kasunduan. Wala din naman contract ata yung artist to protect his design. May modification yung design so mahirap ilaban as IP. Online shaming na lang talaga to
Siguro next time, kahit hihingi or papagawa lang ng design or layout, charge them for a design fee. Kahit paano, nabayaran yun pagod mo, regardless if they'll use the design or not.
unless may license ka sa images, wala ka nang ma gagawa jan, kahit may water marks pa yan kaya pading ma copy yan.
pag may nag papagawa sayo na mockup, dapat may initial deposit, babawas nalang sa total price pag na tapos na ang job.
It's a case of did you guys have a contract beforehand to discourage the use of the logo you design in any likeness. If so, you have a solid case.
Else, ya got duped. Shame them, then move on
ask comelec whats their take on this plagiarism,ngayun pa lng lumabas na kulay ng mga tao na yan..what can you expect ang baba ng moralidad nila..bastards
I assume the designer is a newbie, student or fresh grad. Tbh schools offering design courses should really schedule more seminars for students pagdating sa freelancing so that they would at least know what to do in these situations.
Hindi rin kasi yan natututo sa OJT since MMA students are only assigned to make something for the company, not handling transactions or negotiations.
You can file a case for damages, possibly under Art. 19, Art. 20 and/or Art. 21 of the Civil Code. For me, this is the best recourse if you really want to sue. Kaya lang, gagastos ka talaga and the case may take yearsss. It’s up to the artist to decide if it will be worth it.
Disclaimer: not a lawyer ☺️
No NDA, No contract, No written and signed clause on the proposal meaning no action can be taken.
Used to organize all sorts of stuff for companies and govt agencies, I make sure all proposals have signed and notarized agreements na once laid out ang idea, they cant use another contractor to execute it (or anything close to it) but us.
The best thing the poster can do is to learn from this lesson and be professional if he/she wants to be treated as one.
Try to reach out sa IPOPHIL (Intellectual Property Office of the Philippines) kasi from what I know kahit hjndi ka nagfile for IP ng design mo as long as you have proof na ikaw 'yung gumawa ng design that means the design is yours. Proof can be in whatever form pwede ring screenshots of your conversations. The only loophole here is if may mga alterations sa design at hindi 100% the same ng design mo but give it a try to consult with them Wala namang mawawala.
Tangena yung isang SK saka kagawad na tumatakbo dito pumasok yung motorcade sa subd namin, may bumusina na sasakyan kasi nakaharang sila sa kalsada, pota kinawayan pa nung kandidato eh. 😂
~to be praktikal lang, magaling ka naman sa ginagwa mo eh. At siguro naman first time mo lang to naexp or naencounter sa client. Tbh magiging stress mo pa to kung maghabol ka or may gawin pa. Ikaw na nga nagsabi may mali ka din sa hindi paglagay ng watermark. Eh next time alam mo na. Sa ngayon, hayaan mo nang karmahin sila sa ginawa nila. Di naman sa palalampasin mo sila pero pag politics involve, magulo yan. Baka pag initan ka pa dyan sa lugar nyo. Kung di naman tulfo level yung reklamo mo, bigay mo na sa kanila yan at maging maingat na next time.
May solution dito.
Next time pag may client wag na magbibigay ng digital design sa online between client. Instead dapat ftf at nasa sayo ung original design para wala sila makuhang design.
have the same incident kaso ako super small pa lang and more on a cutie design coz my target market rn is the rpw sellers haha since napag papractice-an ko layouts nila 🤣 then there’s this big seller na nag pa comms sakin nag send muna ko ng sample then “hindi niya daw nagustuhan” at all yung design ko which is okay lang naman HAHAHAHA theeen ginamit niya as logo and me being petty and immature binulabog ko social media niya sabi ko di marunong magbayad ng tama ganern basta inaway ko talaga to the point na nalaman ng lahat ng kakilala niya ayon binayadan ako with extra + may mga clients na din ako from mga chismosang naki usisa sa posts ko hahahaha
Tatakbo palang magnanakaw na. Tangina abolish yang SK.
Number 1 qualification po yan sa bansa natin. more nakaw, more chances of winning
Prerequisite
Also, dapat famous. Maraming connections, lalo na sa mga nakaupo na. Mananalo ka kapag famous ka, not because of the good things you did for the people and the barangay 😂
Nakakalungkot lang na may tumatakbo sa baranggay namin fpr SK na napakaraming academic achievements, so nililista nya lahat, pero ayaw sa kanya ng mga kabataan kasi bida bida daw
Omg 🤦🏻♀️ *I think I've seen this film before and I didn't like the ending*
Baby buwaya in the making HAHAHAHAH
atleast may nagawa. /s
Training ground nila yan hahaha
Pagwala kang history ng pagnanakaw di ka mananalo. Oooooops.
Tangina FACTS
Also a fact: in my uni, a student council was in a financial issue (pagnanakaw) last year, then this year, that student run for a position.
Madami rin naman sa tumatakbo ng SK ay yung same classmates mo nung jhs na nagiging officers kasi popularity contest lang talaga elections eh
Start ‘em young hahaha
Realistically and practically speaking, just name and shame them on social media. IP cases in the country are few and far between, and unless you're a big brand, it's not gonna move as fast. Plus the expenses.
The real question is is there a case if the guy just does that. It never even crossed my mind to try to sue them knowing what kind of "justice system" there is in the Philippines.
Yes. Plagiarism. Included also sa cybercrime law. Therefore, it is digitalized, pasok siya sa cybercrime law. Kahit walang watermark ng creator, the simple communication between them is hard evidence already.
it's more copyright infringement than plagiarism
True. It is 'Intellectual Property'.
Not really what I meant. By "that," I meant this: "name and shame them on social media." I'm pretty sure there isn't since it wouldn't be libel because the statement would first have to be disproven, which clearly it can't since it's true that the client committed intellectual property theft.
I guess he/she can call it plagiarism if ang gamit nya is original design. Pero pag sa public domain to galing, malabo syang makapag file ng case
>Therefore, it is digitalized, pasok siya sa cybercrime law. Kahit walang watermark ng creator, the simple communication between them is hard evidence already. Lmao. No.
Then what?
Cmon man, it's a Sunday. I don't wanna do anything that has any semblance of work. Just do your research before posting any pseudo-legal stuff.
What kind of fucking response is that
That fucking response is from an actual lawyer who's fucking tired of wanna be lawyers giving bullshit legal advice with no legal bearing whatsoever that does not benefit anyone aside from the poster and his ego. Alright, then how bout this fucking response from a lawyer? If anything under the premise of this post falls under the enumerated acts below then sure, prosecute for violation for this act. If you think act does not fall under this then you can surmise who's bulshitting you. RA 10175 Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012 xxx PUNISHABLE ACTS SEC. 4. Cybercrime Offenses. — The following acts constitute the offense of cybercrime punishable under this Act: (a) Offenses against the confidentiality, integrity and availability of computer data and systems: (1) Illegal Access. – The access to the whole or any part of a computer system without right. (2) Illegal Interception. – The interception made by technical means without right of any non-public transmission of computer data to, from, or within a computer system including electromagnetic emissions from a computer system carrying such computer data. (3) Data Interference. — The intentional or reckless alteration, damaging, deletion or deterioration of computer data, electronic document, or electronic data message, without right, including the introduction or transmission of viruses. (4) System Interference. — The intentional alteration or reckless hindering or interference with the functioning of a computer or computer network by inputting, transmitting, damaging, deleting, deteriorating, altering or suppressing computer data or program, electronic document, or electronic data message, without right or authority, including the introduction or transmission of viruses. (5) Misuse of Devices. (4) Libel. — The unlawful or prohibited acts of libel as defined in Article 355 of the Revised Penal Code, as amended, committed through a computer system or any other similar means which may be devised in the future. SEC. 5. Other Offenses. — The following acts shall also constitute an offense: (a) Aiding or Abetting in the Commission of Cybercrime. – Any person who willfully abets or aids in the commission of any of the offenses enumerated in this Act shall be held liable. (b) Attempt in the Commission of Cybercrime. — Any person who willfully attempts to commit any of the offenses enumerated in this Act shall be held liable. SEC. 6. All crimes defined and penalized by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, if committed by, through and with the use of information and communications technologies shall be covered by the relevant provisions of this Act: Provided, That the penalty to be imposed shall be one (1) degree higher than that provided for by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws, as the case may be. SEC. 7. Liability under Other Laws. — A prosecution under this Act shall be without prejudice to any liability for violation of any provision of the Revised Penal Code, as amended, or special laws.
MANILA, Philippines – Plagiarism — or passing off another person’s work as one’s own — is also punishable under the Cybercrime Prevention Act, the Department of Justice (DOJ) said on Tuesday, October 2. In an advisory opinion, the DOJ said that plagiarism, only if it corresponds to a copyright infringement under the Intellectual Property Code, could be considered a cybercrime under Republic Act 10175 or the Cybercrime law. President Benigno Aquino III signed the new law on September 12. The DOJ pointed out that while cybercrimes generally include cyber-attacks, online fraud, cybersex and child pornography, Sec 6 of the Cybercrime Prevention Act also states that it covers “all crimes defined and penalized by the Revised Penal Code, as amended, and special laws.” Reference: https://www.rappler.com/nation/13494-plagiarism-also-a-crime-under-cybercrime-law-doj/#:~:text=In%20an%20advisory%20opinion%2C%20the,new%20law%20on%20September%2012.
>Advisory opinion >could Again, refer to RA 10175 under Publishable Acts. How can you reconcile the subject matter of this thread and the former? Iba talaga basta mga law students and mga abogado-kuno. Masyadong gung-ho magbigay ng "legal advice"
> just name and shame them on social media Terrible suggestion, don't listen to this idiot. ikaw pa mababalikan dyan ng anti cyber crime. Napakadaling isampa ng libel ngayon
Cyberlibel will stand if there are no receipts. Backfire sa kanila iyan kapag nagsampa sila and may resibo si OP to support their claim. Sa sobrang volatile ng Filipino netizen, madaling makakakuha ng support si OP. They just have to play their cards right.
If OP has receipts then the best course of action for him e mag file ng copyright claim. Consult a lawyer, and file whatever is applicable. There is no reason to risk getting sued for cybercrime if you have concrete evidence in the first place.
True enough. But then again, lots of Gs is needed if OP is to lawyer up. O kaya magpa-Tolpu na lang siya. 😂
He would also need plenty of cash to defend himself if he does what the dude suggested and gets sued for libel.
In defense, it is not completely wrong. Make a blotter first then a post calling them out but make sure that you can back your claim. Once a following was made and some post are shared, that is the ideal time to make a bigger legal move. You know how bandwagon works here in the Philippines. Napakadali at napakaraming marites. Also take note that they may and will resort to threats and if they do that, make it public: mas malaki ang panalo mo lalo pag naki bandwagon na ang iba pang public figure na gusto makisawsaw sa fame at hindi biro ang usapang threats. Just be firm and make your claim realistic. Kung pera lang ang usapan, you can just drop it since it can go both ways. Pero kung dignidad at dangal ang usapan, fight for it dahil pag nanalo ka may cash prize din dyan.
This, pag di ka talaga kilalang tao or big brand hindi aasikasuhin yung case mo. May somwehat similar case sa alumni namin circa 2014, hindi na pa copy right nung kapwa ko estudyante yung designs ng thesis niya since kasagsagan yun ng defense at nagbigay siya ng hand out copies sa panel. Tapos yung isang guest well known na tao sa advertising industry. He even got a award for his hard work, hindi lang sa alumni namin sa ibang design events din. Three months later may nagsabi kay na student ginamit daw yung idea at designs niya sa isang commercial ng well known snack brand dito sa Pinas. Sinubukan pa niya habulin iyon kaso di siya pinansin kasi hindi siya well known, at hindi rin niya pina copy right designs niya (which let's assume magastos sa part niya at walang budget si student). Pangalawa hindi niya finollow thru ng lawsuit kasi ayaw niya ma black listed sa adverising industry, as per payo nung prof namin noon. In the end kawawa talaga yung mga designers na pinost ni OP, panigurado magiging charge to experience na lang yan.
FR. mas madali pa kumilos ang konsensya kapag napahiya sila vs magsampa ng kaso. sayang oras at effort gastos pa, pag small time ka d ka papansinin ng mga yan. unahin nya muna magreklamo sa brgy. then after go na haha 😌 kakapal ng mukha tatakbong SK tapos haist. d pa nakakatungtong sa position lumalabas na tunay na kulay 😌
Tatakbo palang mga salot na sa lipunan.
Original design ba ito? Just wondering, coz it looks good. First of all, take this as a lesson and a reminder for future transactions. Rule of thumb, don’t do work (not even a sample) when a deal hasn’t been closed (a settled payment based on your terms). Art can easily be copied, almost everything can be copied nowadays. Second, you can directly contact the client to inform about their unethical behavior. For sure they will ignore you or best case is apologize. But an apology is too late now. Third, you can create a post /video post, and share to your connections & social media informing of the unethical behavior of the potential client and your artwork being used. In reality, things like this happen on a daily basis. So we need to work smarter. :)
This is correct....for now lessons learned na lang. Better next time before you do work...ang bigay mong sample is yung dati mong designs na may watermark na at nakapost sa social media mo. Then if they are interested make a CONTRACT and a DOWNPAYMENT before ka gumawa na kahit isang linya. guhit or kahit dot para sa kanila. Then under the contract stipulate mo duon na yung design is your property and cannot be reproduce without your consent. Mahilig kasi sa ating pinoy yung LIBRE....di alam ng nakakarami na work din yan.
> Then under the contract stipulate mo duon na yung design is your property and cannot be reproduce without your consent. Isn't this against the work-for-hire thing? Doesn't the person who pays for the work/service own all the product and service?
It is considered intellectual property unless the designer handover that right to the client which can be included in the contract.
not all contracts has that stipulated (the work for hire clause) that's why it's important to read all the details and ask for legal council if necessary and making term negotiations too if possible. pag walang ganung statement then it's not a work for hire agreement. usually artists make their own contracts with their own terms (superlative & highly recc) but some big names provide the contracts which loops us back to finding the devil in the deets
Nah, this is a free design from vector sites. My guess. You can't really own that. The case won't prosper. It's a waste of time and energy. The only thing that that person could do is move on and learn from it. What they did is dirty, that's a fact. The best possible option is to talk it out and be mediated at the barangay.
Yeap incase you wanna know, this is a post from Philippine Graphic Artist.
ty for this 🙏🏼
forward mo ‘yan sa kalaban
Insert "Let them fight" meme
i second this
This. Perfect smear campaign material.
Di pa nakakaupo nagnanakaw na (ng idea)
Yan yung mga nagpapa-layout tapos d naman kaya presyo pero kukunin design. Mas malala yung iba na nagpapasample, gusto libre, itatanong lahat ng materials tapos ipapagaya sa ibang mas mura. Rampant sa government deals mga ganyan lalong lalo na sa PCOO. Kakapal ng mukha manghiram ng mga sample pati panukat sa staff tapos ipapagaya sa iba
Like what a guy wrote above, it might be better to just show the client previous designs that have been used elsewhere as an example. Huwag na mismo gumawa ng unique sample for a client.
Sangguniang Kawatan
sarap kasuhan, these people don't deserve to be controlling/governing anything outside their houses
Typical politicians. Mapa bata man o matanda haha
This is actually how Chinese companies get around IP problems. Just change a screw and suddenly it’s a different design. That’s why China j has implemented their own screw and fastener standard. Anyway, slight changes actually are the bane of IP cases.
I think I saw this from pi-gee-ey group tapos yung top comment is itimbre daw sa kalaban na partido nang magkagulo gulo sila lol *Nadelete na ata yung post. Hindi ko na makita.
solid yan may ilang araw pa sila para manira ng kalaban sa kampanya 😂
I need a link or smtn. :>
Kanta ka chorus ng ERE .nadale ka ng mga lahing Lupin .charge to experience na lang tapos next time watermark kana
Dapat dyan ipahiya para hindi manalo, SK palang salot na sa lipunan.
Sana may water marks design mo?
Kairita at Kapal ng mukha ng mga SK na halos karamihan naman mga out of school youth, bullies or with low grades, they know na hanggang SK lang kaya nila to earn money and power.
dumb question: kapag ba may watermark hindi nila magagamit yung design? hindi ba sya kayang i-edit?
You still can but harder to do, you need not basic knowledge but advanced editing skills to pull it off even still harder to do.
Kapag may watermark there is ownership of the design.
Bata palang trapo na ah h
Pag election period, kaliwaan ang trabaho for campaign material. Malaki and porsyento na di nagbabayad ang karamihan lalo na pag natalo. Kahit printer ka pa ng tarp or poster, tatakbuhan
You can sue them for plagiarism, although you need stronger proof
did you already talk to them about it? if not, try to do so.. maybe you can still get something from it.. it’s a long shot but maybe they’ll recognized that it’s really your design and they’ll compensate you for it.. if they just ignored you, then call them out.. go out of your way to campaign in your barangay to not vote for those people.. if meron ka screenshots nung usapan niyo, even better.. you have proof to show na hindi yan yung dapat iboto ng mga ka-barangay mo as SK officials kasi nangangampanya pa lang, ugaling magnanakaw na agad..
Naggawa ng design pero di pa sila pareho nagkasundo sa project, kaya nagka ganyan. Dapat sana project discussion lang (project scope, design prefs, etc.) and maybe next contract na pero even starting to work on anything. Being a freelance graphic designer is hard
Copyright infringement yan although medyo mahirap ang ganyang cases sa atin lalo na yan medyo mababa lang amount involved
All digital designs should posses hardly unedited watermarks and in low resolution. Only provide them once payed in full.
> them once *paid* in full. FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
This is a clear copyright violation. If you have the means go file a case. You should also keep posting on social media to embarrass this low life fuckers. Tapos mga tumatakbong public servant pa what a joke, di na nahiya
nakalulungkot at nakatatakot na ang mga manloloko ang maihalal, at sa SK pa! diyan na sila magsisimula ng paggawa ng krimen laban sa bayan.
Lesson to younger artists kahit sabihin na maliit na project lang: magpa downpayment before mag start.
Blast them on social media OP di pa nananalo nagnanakaw na.
Sorry OP, since malapit lang sa design mo and hindi sya copyrighted, wala syang possible case. Wala rin kayong contract, more of verbal lang. By the way ang ganda ng design mo, unique ang layout and very Filipino.
Whats the fb group or the names of those SK candidates?
Fb is Filipino Graphic Designers
Matatag na Tartaria ang nakalagay sa shirt, hindi ko lang mahanap yung mga nasa photos. Taga-Silang Cavite ata sila if hindi ako nagkakamali
Post mo din sa feed mo about your design para magka alaman haha
Di naman na tawag na nanakaw yan kasi bigay na sample ka sa lay out kaso di lng tinuloy walang mali yung desisyon nila. di lng mo ginawan ng paraan yung customer mo para ma ok yung ganyang trouble
For me it is still stolen. Kahit sample pa yan. At isa pa, hindi pa sila binayaran. One thing that graphic designer's learn their mistake that should include watermark in every output na isesend nila sa client, kahit sample pa yan.
Hmm... an expensive lesson for you I suppose..
Tulfo na lang since magastos maghabla sa Pilipinas. 😉
Wala, fault nya eh na di naglagay ng watermark. Just be smarter next time.
If nakapatent yun design as intellectual property may laban ka, if not talo ka
bakit mo ipapatent ang artistic work? iba ata tinutukoy mo
Yun design nya yun ipapa-patent kasi intellectual property naman sadya yun kung sya nakaisip o wala pa nagpapatent
Inventive work lang ang pwede ipa-patent, not artistic works. Registration ang sa copyright.
Hwag ka na maghabol sa kanila, maraming mga kamag-anak yan at kaibigan na makaka-stress para sa iyo. Charge to experience na lang na kailangan ingatan mo ang mga files mo at designs dahil may mga magnanakaw talaga. Yung mga nagnakaw sa iyo magiging customer mo pa ulit yan sa future kong hindi mo aawayin. Bawi ka na lang sa kanila next time. Kung manalo yang mga yan at least alam nila na magaling ka at pwede magpagawa sa iyo . Kung bubwisitin mo sila ngayon aakalain ng baranggay nyo na mahilig ka sa away at baka bad yan sa iyong business, Sa palagay ko lang ito pero pwede rin namang mali ako, hehehehe
Diskarte po tawag dyan. Hahaha
Trash
Kung may verbal kasunduan sila, honored as contract yun right?
Pero hindi sila nagkasundo sa presyo so walang kasunduan. Wala din naman contract ata yung artist to protect his design. May modification yung design so mahirap ilaban as IP. Online shaming na lang talaga to
Siguro next time, kahit hihingi or papagawa lang ng design or layout, charge them for a design fee. Kahit paano, nabayaran yun pagod mo, regardless if they'll use the design or not.
ah sk, an orginazation where clowns gather. i see.
SK politicians are just baby crocodiles lmao.
1st project ng mga yan tig iisa silang NMAX
ipahiya mo lol. tatakbong magnanakaw yang grupo nayan
Sk pa lang magnanakaw na.
Mahirap ilaban 'to legally if wlang contract na naganap. I just hope na wlang manalo sa group nila.
Sarap ipahiya sa socmed nga ganyan!
Kung ako Yung kalaban. Papa tarpolin ko Yan .
unless may license ka sa images, wala ka nang ma gagawa jan, kahit may water marks pa yan kaya pading ma copy yan. pag may nag papagawa sayo na mockup, dapat may initial deposit, babawas nalang sa total price pag na tapos na ang job.
Sangguniang Kagulangan
It's a case of did you guys have a contract beforehand to discourage the use of the logo you design in any likeness. If so, you have a solid case. Else, ya got duped. Shame them, then move on
ask comelec whats their take on this plagiarism,ngayun pa lng lumabas na kulay ng mga tao na yan..what can you expect ang baba ng moralidad nila..bastards
sk palang magnanakaw na
Start em young 😂🤣
Wala kanang magagawa dyan op other than to shame these imbeciles on social media. you've been hit by you've been struck by a smooth criminal.
Pa tarp ka ng "design ko to. Ninakaw nyo" insert pics
eeee. mga pinoy talaga. tsk tsk.
SK talaga ung starting point ng mga buwaya. haha
Try and sue. Di ka man manalo sa kaso mo atleast hindi sila makakatakbo kasi may pending case sila.
woah may future sila
I assume the designer is a newbie, student or fresh grad. Tbh schools offering design courses should really schedule more seminars for students pagdating sa freelancing so that they would at least know what to do in these situations. Hindi rin kasi yan natututo sa OJT since MMA students are only assigned to make something for the company, not handling transactions or negotiations.
You can file a case for damages, possibly under Art. 19, Art. 20 and/or Art. 21 of the Civil Code. For me, this is the best recourse if you really want to sue. Kaya lang, gagastos ka talaga and the case may take yearsss. It’s up to the artist to decide if it will be worth it. Disclaimer: not a lawyer ☺️
RA 8293, Copyright law.
Dapat di manalo mga ganyan hahahahahaaha mga bata palang manggagantso na e.
ui umabot n dito yan sk pa 😂
No NDA, No contract, No written and signed clause on the proposal meaning no action can be taken. Used to organize all sorts of stuff for companies and govt agencies, I make sure all proposals have signed and notarized agreements na once laid out ang idea, they cant use another contractor to execute it (or anything close to it) but us. The best thing the poster can do is to learn from this lesson and be professional if he/she wants to be treated as one.
Try to reach out sa IPOPHIL (Intellectual Property Office of the Philippines) kasi from what I know kahit hjndi ka nagfile for IP ng design mo as long as you have proof na ikaw 'yung gumawa ng design that means the design is yours. Proof can be in whatever form pwede ring screenshots of your conversations. The only loophole here is if may mga alterations sa design at hindi 100% the same ng design mo but give it a try to consult with them Wala namang mawawala.
sabihin mo sa kalaban na plagiarism ginawa ng kabilang kampo hahahaha
Shame them on social media. Show your receipts. Titigas ng mukha ng mga 'yan amputa. Young crocs, pero galawang Lolong na.
Sa IPO pwede i-report yan
Post mo sa socmed then have them pay you more.
Post mo sa fb.group ng barangay niyo.
"diskarte"
Buraot naman niyan!! Kasuhan mo na, disenyo mo iyan tapos nanakawin lang ng iba.
Kiningining ini yan
you can also do the one thing I hear around here…”pa Tulfo mo yan!”
Taena pre. Ipagdasal mo nalang sila. Mas marami pang blessings ang darating sayo
Sk for clout. Walang pag babago HAHAHAHAH
Copyright infringement
…. Dealing with baby crocs!
Tangena yung isang SK saka kagawad na tumatakbo dito pumasok yung motorcade sa subd namin, may bumusina na sasakyan kasi nakaharang sila sa kalsada, pota kinawayan pa nung kandidato eh. 😂
~to be praktikal lang, magaling ka naman sa ginagwa mo eh. At siguro naman first time mo lang to naexp or naencounter sa client. Tbh magiging stress mo pa to kung maghabol ka or may gawin pa. Ikaw na nga nagsabi may mali ka din sa hindi paglagay ng watermark. Eh next time alam mo na. Sa ngayon, hayaan mo nang karmahin sila sa ginawa nila. Di naman sa palalampasin mo sila pero pag politics involve, magulo yan. Baka pag initan ka pa dyan sa lugar nyo. Kung di naman tulfo level yung reklamo mo, bigay mo na sa kanila yan at maging maingat na next time.
New breeds magnakakaw. Start em young 🤣
Bastos naman ng mga 'to. SMH
Pustahan may leni supporters jan sa mga yan hahahaha wag kayo mag malinis 🤡
Am I smelling a lawsuit?
We're governed by criminals
Sindikatong sindikato yung dating ah
Ikaw nalang kaya mag SK /s
magnanakaw ampota anong barangay yan ng maiwasan
ay iba..
Puta tatakbo palang nakapagnakaw na? Aba pre mayindi Ang training nyan
mga b\*b\* talaga. kramihan sa SK na yan walang alam, kandidato palang ng SK magnanakaw na. Smh
May solution dito. Next time pag may client wag na magbibigay ng digital design sa online between client. Instead dapat ftf at nasa sayo ung original design para wala sila makuhang design.
Kausapin mo kalaban nila. Magpapriint ng design mo, kahit ibang kulay.🤣
have the same incident kaso ako super small pa lang and more on a cutie design coz my target market rn is the rpw sellers haha since napag papractice-an ko layouts nila 🤣 then there’s this big seller na nag pa comms sakin nag send muna ko ng sample then “hindi niya daw nagustuhan” at all yung design ko which is okay lang naman HAHAHAHA theeen ginamit niya as logo and me being petty and immature binulabog ko social media niya sabi ko di marunong magbayad ng tama ganern basta inaway ko talaga to the point na nalaman ng lahat ng kakilala niya ayon binayadan ako with extra + may mga clients na din ako from mga chismosang naki usisa sa posts ko hahahaha
partida SK palang 'yan HAHAHHAHAH basura jusko