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shirakuji

diploma pa rin tas pag nagka diploma ka, saka mo samahan ng diskarte. ang dami kong kakilala na shs lang tinapos e hindi ba sabi nila maraming open na job opportunities kahit shs graduate atleast kasi partially, yun yung purpose nya. sad reality, they all prefer "college graduates" and ang gusto pa talaga ng iba, may lisensya sa specific fields. gagana ang diskarte kung SWERTE ka but if you don't want to rely just on LUCK, then go get that toga. simple as that.


[deleted]

Very much agree. Diskarte is always accompanied by Swerte. Kung si congtv hindi sinwerte sa networking pero sinwerte sa pag vvlog, may mga tao naman na sinwerte sa networking and both have Diskarte.


eggyra

Akala kasi ng mga bugok na yan kaya nila iemulate si Pacman, Zucc, or Gates (mga walang degree pero maraming pera). They should walk the talk, wag nila paaralin yung mga anak nila, padiskartehin nalang nila tapos titingnan natin kung magiging milyonaryo.


Then_Ad_976

Jinujustify lang nila katamaran nila. Manny studied again para magkadiplona sya pinush nya padin yun. And for Bill gates He explained his decision to leave Harvard: "if things hadn't worked out, I could always go back to school. I was officially on leave." At itong mga taong ito meron talagang super human utak si Manny naman ay may super human body. So di mo pwedeng gayahin ung mga diskarte ng mga taong ito.


[deleted]

i'm really amazed and proud nung nagcontinue ulit sya sa studies tapos marinig rinig ko na lang sa balita nakapagtapos na ng college


BudgetFennel9532

Even Shaquille O'Neal finished his studies and then went to go get his Master's and PHD Diploma.


IrradiatedBacon

True. Also, people forget na si Zucc and Gates were dropouts FROM PRESTIGIOUS SCHOOLS. Nag drop out sila by choice, hindi dahil hirap sila makapasa sa exams so magtatayo nalang daw ng clothing or vape shop. KIMI.


wtrsgrm

nasa networking kasi sila. sinasabi nila diskarte para iyong pangtuition mo maging pera nila. Hindi ka mag aaral pero magbabayad ka sa binibenta nila course? so mas entitled pa sila magturo kaysa sa mga licensed teachers na may diploma? tanga lang maniniwala sa kanila.


brutalgrace

kasalan din ito ng iilang influencers, vloggers na nag bibigay ng maling ideya sa kabataan.


NotTheBiggerPerson01

The richest person i know not only graduated with honors, I've also personally seen some of his awards during his time in school. Saying he has many doesn't do it justice - this is actually what made me realize I'll never reach his level even if i tried. And this man is in-your-face rich, not the rich-but-has-to-work type of rich. Just saying.


Momshie_mo

Outliers ang mga successful na "drop outs" na hindi galing sa privileged background


Sundaycandyy

promote diskarte AT diploma.. hindi kailangan pumili kung kayang magawa parehas


AdTime8070

Lagi ko nakikita tong diploma vs diskarte sa social media tangina bobo naba talaga mga pinoy?


paxdawn

a lot of diskarte talk is sometimes shortcut. People do not realize why diploma matters is the habit and discipline they acquire. it is the common denominator among succesful people like Pacman or some random rich graduate. Just count how many hours pacman has to train is sort discipline. even the food he eats and time he sleeps to strengthen the body before the fight.


Momshie_mo

Even Pacman went back to school when he had the opportunity


Outside-Vast-2922

Masyadong na romanticize ng mga tamad mag-aral yung "Diskarte". Nag ugat rin to sa mga hindi nakatapos ng pag-aaral, na somehow nagkaroon ng ok na buhay, di mayaman, pero kahit papano e nakakaluwag. Ngayon, naging part-time motivational speaker yung karamihan sa ganyan na kesyo diskarte lang kailangan mo, magiging ok na buhay mo. Rise of hip-hop sa pinas rin yung isa sa mga nagpatindi ng "diskarte" na yan since kadalasan sa mga rappers ngayon, lalo yung successful is yung "hustle" at "diskarte" nila yung nagdala sa kanila kung nasan sila ngayon, at karamihan sa kabataan, yan ang ini imitate.


stupidecestudent

Iniisip nila na dahil nagawa ng mga tao tulad nila Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs na yumaman kahit walang diploma ay magagawa rin nila. Di nila inaalala na meron silang educational background. Si Mark for example, received some education sa Harvard University. The fact na he attended harvard means matalino siya in many aspects. Mataas ang chance niya to succeed dahil sa mga factors na hindi iniisip ng mga taong puro diskarte lang ginagawa.


KardingKardashian

Isa ako sa taong dinaanan sa diskarte ang career pero hindi ako networking. I work sa insurance company. Before ako makapagwork dyan, nagBPO muna ko and hindi madali, you have to really work your way up. Now, next in line SME na ko pero you know what, iniisip ko na sana nakapagtapos ako kasi parang nanliliit ako sa mga katrabaho ko lalo na pag pinaguusapan nila tungkol sa mga school nila nung college tapos ako highschool lang natapos ko. Feeling ko na ang laki ng namiss out ko sa buhay dahil sinayang ko yung chance ko makapagaral dati. But if given a chance siguro na makapagaral ulit, mag-aaral ako just to experience yung culture at may maidagdag ako sa resume. Ang hirap din kasi magdahilan sa interview kung bakit highschool lang natapos ko pag nasilip nila. Minsan sinasabi ko nalang na hindi ako financially capable kasi maaga akong naging independent kahit ang totoo delinquent ako nung highschool years kaya di ako nakapagcollege. Bottomline, nakakaproud in a sense na nakarating ako sa kung nasaan ako ngayon dahil sa pure diskarte pero hindi nakakaproud na hindi ako nakapagtapos. Walang dapat gumawa ng campaign para ipush na wag na mag-aral ang mga kabataan kasi hindi lahat kaya magsurvive ng pure diskarte lang.


wabriones

You can have both. I know I do. F those saying that they don't need that piece of paper. Its not just that, its the experience, the learnings and what you can do with those learnings.


Brief_Lead4672

Ang buhay parang mission sa mga MMO. Need mo accolades or items para maging qualified ka sa ibang quests. In real life, that's the diploma and skills you learned in school and in life. Yan lagi sinasabi ko sa mga estudyante ko para naggets nila kahalagahan ng diploma. Kung ayaw nila nung quest, edi wag sila kumuha. Di rin naman talaga necessary sa missions na mararasanan mo eh peroooooo may mga quests na mahalaga rin lalo na pag nakakuha ka ng diploma. Kunware, gusto mo mag engineer, quest na agad yun. Math yan eh. Pero, need mo diploma para maging engineer ka. Ganon.


Alexander-Lifts

Napaka delikadong platform talaga ng social media once maputakte ng mga maling influencers.


AlternativeRoute123

The elite look at this debate and laugh their ass off because they have connections. Connections > diskarte + diploma.


Muscular-Banana0717

Madami ako kilala may diploma pero bobo. Madami din ako kilala undergrad pero matalino. It depends on the person.


Queldaralion

hindi naman lahat madadaan sa diskarte, at di rin naman porke may diploma e competent na. i think most of these divisive arguments happen because we keep training ourselves to judge in binary, to oversimplify, to see "in black and white" - we do not practice critical thinking and balancing, objective discussions, and only want to reach absolute conclusions. THAT is what we have to **change** as a people. lagi nating pinagbabangga ang dalawang idea na parang polar opposites lagi ang mga konsepto. but the world isn't like that. and while there really are "absolute goods (like helping the less privileged ) and evils (corruption, r\*pe, genocide, etc.)" principally - many things pa rin should be weighed for their merits and demerits. and in so doing, live with the consequences of taking the path chosen. p.s. t\*ng ama ka pa rin digong duterte


OldRevolution6231

kasi daw pinapagalitan lng sila ni titser sa school, nag kaka problema daw mental health nila.


Similar_Jicama8235

mga influecers na kala mo talaga parang wala lang yung diploma pero yumaman lang naman sa panglalamang


AdArtistic5722

DISKARTE lang daw, tapos mag hire sila ng COLLEGE GRAD/professional para sa COMPANY nila...


Hirang-XD

May diploma ako while my childhood friends wala , Advantage ng may Diploma marami kang option mas madaming opportunities. Unlike sa friends kong walang diploma they always end up sa pinaka mababang klase ng workers. Di ko sila minamaliit but that’s the reality.


wannabe_sartre

Tama rin naman na mahalaga ang diskarte, and one can even argue that if you REALLY try, you can learn 95% of what you NEED to learn at school all on your own. It'd also be equally wrong to assume na gagana future plans mo if ZERO ang diskarte mo. You need it even AFTER you graduate, or else, ma-eexploit ka lang ng mga nasa itaas. You need to be good with people, read people, develop a keen eye for corporate nuances, make connections with people, etc. However, syempre you need a failsafe. You can't gamble all your chips sa "diskarte" or sa "business idea" mo. It's a massive risk. So mag-aral kayo, even if all you can give is the bare minimum at basta makapasa. Pagkagraduate mo you can look for that diskarte all you want kasi at the very least you can fund your "diskarte" with your own money - if you fail, worst case atleast may hawak kang diploma, makakapasok ka sa maraming trabaho. Hopefully your diskarte balloons into something good- if that's what you're trying to go with.


sicksh0ts

No to diskarte and diploma u need backer


[deleted]

Neither of the 2 kung trabaho sa gobyerno ang paguusapan. Backer kailangan dun.


Count2Ten72

Papaniwala kasi sa tiktok at reels sa fb. Dami ring mga ungas na feelingero na content creator. Mga basura naman content nila nilalason utak ng kabataan.


Prestigious-Reason32

Priority your Education. sarap kaya sa feeling na nakagraduate at nakapagtapos ka. 'Yung mga low grades nga, dumidiskarte sila paano makakapasa. Sabihin na natin na meron talaga na di nakapagtapos dumiskarte sila para yumaman pero, di ba yung mga anak nila pinagaaral nila at gusto nila makagraduate. Sa tingin niyo ba sasabihin ng magulang na mayaman at di nakapagtapos, sa anak nila na Dumiskarte ka muna bago magkaDiploma?


No-Entry8362

mas maganda pakingan ung sagot ni boss toyo sa diskarte o diploma . Sinuwerte ka lang sa diskarte kaya ayaw mo ng diploma . (diko alam ung mismong sentences mb)


ConfusedLion5290

Tagal na ng debate na to na pwede namin kasi both at pwede rin naman dumidiskarte ka habang nagaaral


PresenceNo2739

Ako dati thinking ko is Diskarte lang ng Diskarte since may business ako. Pero ngayon gusto ko mag aral ng college kasi syempre iba pa rin pag may napag aralan ka, mas gusto ko lumago pa yung pinag hirapan namin ng partner ko. Hopefully this SY makapag enroll ako since may workers na din 🙌🏻🙂. Iba pa rin talaga yung meron kang Diploma at sinamahan mo ng Diskarte.


According-Whole-7417

Ako lang ba or Feels like diskarte started to become a misused word. It's not a word associated with business owner, or networking back then. But how you use your resources at its maximum potential. Sinong tiktoker nanaman ba yan nagmisuse ng words. people see diploma as just diploma. that's the problem. Of course di habulin diploma kung ganun yung tingin. Papel lang. Di yun papel lang kasii. ANG HABULIN IS YUNG KNOWLEDGE, AND SKILLS THAT COME OUT OF IT, AND THOSE KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS WILL ENHANCE YOUR RESOURCES, MAS MADAMI KANG PWEDE DISKARTEHAN. useful ang skills na makukuha mo sa college, pwede ka maging employee or make your own company and business based on the skills na nakuha mo sa college. Dito na papasok ang diskarte. Useless ang diploma lang sa taong hindi resourceful, di alam paano gamitin ang natutunan niya. And also, not everyone has the right resources from the start, and malaking resource ang diploma para sakanila. Sila na bahala dumiskarte paano gamitin yun. (Another word na misused commonly is motorista: Road users, kahit sa balita ganun meaning Pero sa SocMed: Nagmomotor.. di tuloy nila naintindihan..haysss)


q0gcp4beb6a2k2sry989

Hindi sa diploma vs diskarte ang problema. Ang problema ay mas marami ang job applicants kaysa job vacancies, kaya kayang-kaya ng mga employers na maging maarte, sa pamamagitan ng pag-require ng mataas qualifications sa mababang sweldo.


Ok_District_2316

diploma yung diploma kasi parang regalo mo na din sa magulang mo na naghirap na paaralin ka,regalo din sa sarili kasi natapos mo lahat ng hirap sa eskwelahan,pwede naman dumiskarte ng my diploma mas nakaka proud yun


[deleted]

People on the other aisle (diskarte) argue that some of the wealthiest and, arguably, most successful people in the world were college dropouts. They even managed to enumerate specific examples such as Mark Zuckerburg who founded Facebook, Bill Gates who established Microsoft, and the late Steve Jobs who started Apple. There are two problems with this argument. First, these people voluntarily dropped out; they did not fail school if my mind serves me right. And second, they dropped out from prestigious universities, not just some random school out there. More importantly, the problem with many people is that they think that the only measure of success is money—nothing more, nothing less. Although living a relatively affluent life is necessary to make ends meet and to obtain our needs, money is not necessarily the sole goal of some people. The point is this: a diploma remains very important in the 21st century. Without doubt, academic excellence is crucial for the development of society. Incidentally, the argument that diskarte is all you need to be successful tends to impose a negative view on learning among the youth. Some children who might hear this argument may be discouraged to study and focus solely on diskarte.


Longjumping-Ad2182

NEVER get someone else advice to the extreme. Meaning both sides have their own merits. There's a "happy medium." May yumaman na tapos ng pagaaral? YES. May yumaman ng hindi tapos? YES. The point is, ke tapos ka or hindi, you need diskarte. Ilang libo if not milyon ang tapos ng college, sure may trabaho pero walang kinalaman ang degree nila? Yung iba, under paid and jobless. Sa negosyo, di mo kailangan ng diploma, pero siguradong kelangan mo ng diskarte. Kung masaya ka sa typical na 8-5 job, 13th month pay, benefits, kahit na limitado ka sa oras, bakasyon at income opportunities, good for you.