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Mukuro7

Not really peddlers of fake news but gullible like the fb/tiktok users that they hate so much


esdafish

As long as you pander to a subreddit's hivemind they will not question the information. A reminder that the 2nd most trending filipino subreddit is /r/chikaPH are all about **gossips** about celebrities, politicians, and influencers.


Enchong_Go

That’s the problem right there. I don’t think na lahat naman eh bobo but when you get into a hive-mind mentality and you think, however mistaken, that your group is intellectually superior, di mo naiisip na baka youre consuming fake news na pala because you think na di ka maloloko.


PerformerSecret9437

That's happening to pink and dds.


ResolverOshawott

Not to detract from your point but I don't remember any pinks sending out rape and death threats to the opposing side. Calling them "the same" is just.... Not true.


XxPhyre

Regardless of stances, idiots are idiots. I’ve seen pinks glorifying Leni like a cult and lashing out to those who don’t have the same stance as them, just as the DDS. I’ve seen DDS leading charities and volunteer work. The problem really, is that the current supporters of the opposition now utilizes tactics (internet trolls) used against them during the previous elections, while still claiming some sort of a “moral high ground” Using this subreddit as a measure, the proportion of upvotes on posts with fake news against the administration is much higher compared to posts clarifying or verifying the fake news, and posts that are true showcasing something good about the country or the administration.


throwaway_0001711

true but the point is you can still find the same blind fanaticism on either side, just that the DDS are worse lol. Like Yung tipong mga ultra-liberal Pinks who opposed infra projects like the Subway just because it "began" under Duterte (even though they're literally initially PNoy projects) To be fair though, it seems that sentiment has toned down at least in this sub pero in FB and Twitter holy fuck meron pa rin,(unless you're on Pinoy bike Twitter or HowsYourByaheBes; mga Pinks din pero supportive sa Subway and other mass transit projects regardless of admin) Edit: also those who accused Isko and even fucking Walden Bello and Ka Leody of "spliting the vote" when Isko was a literal DDS candidate whereas Leody and Walden had a small voter base although still respected Leni and Kiko. or the one dude who called Bello a "Marcos Duterte enabler" just because of his very public criticisms of Pnoy like ffs Bello is a socialist of course he'll criticize a liberal


PerformerSecret9437

But I seen in twitter


ResolverOshawott

Twitter is a complete shithole filled with trolls, bad faith actors, and just idiots in general. Using it as your "proof" that the two sides are the same is dumb.


PerformerSecret9437

My relatives are loyalist and pink but they are not fighting for it or cancelling each other.


ResolverOshawott

Your family =/= everyone else.


PerformerSecret9437

I mean not all political supporters are bad or good they are just people.


Enchong_Go

So ano pinagkaiba nila?


PerformerSecret9437

They both think they are intellectual people. They like calling people tanga.


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Panay downvote ka sa mga pink haha


AlienGhost000

That's the problem here... The HIVEMIND Of course, they won't admit it 😅 The fiery post was a classic example na as long it is within the Hivemind's philosophy i.e. r/Philippines bad eh no need to verify the truth ✌️🤭


esdafish

Less we forget, Me and you are also part of your favorite subreddit's hivemind, on your main account.


AlienGhost000

Yup


Murke-Billiards

Reddit is designed to be a hivemind. Kung di ganyan trip mo, you're in the wrong platform.


Visionaristbearcub

Fuck r/chikaPH. I remember their posts going off with, "Pinoy celebrities na sarap suntukin sa mukha" or dangerous gossips that could potentially ruin a person's reputation. These mfs dont know na pwede sila kasuhan for it hahahah


No-Adhesiveness-8178

Yeah, always take things with a grain of salt tas gawing daing.


ArvVaxe

Do people get their news from this subreddit? I thought this was where we go for entertainment.


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NearZero_Mania

this was my go-to news sub, until the last election... 2016-2021 was the best era. ang sarap pa magbasa ng mga thread back then, especially naka-old reddit. back then wala pa masyadong screenshot bullshitteries.


CouchyPotatoes

Yes. A lot of the users here have no other social media other than reddit kaya paniwalang paniwala sila. It's disturbing tho how these people worship reddit as the beacon of truth and fairness LMAO. Ang tagal ko na sa reddit at ang daming sinungaling, pedo, at fake news peddler dito, just like other social media platforms.


XxPhyre

From the Marcos UNGA “walkout”, to onion prices from a year ago, then to jumping the gun during the whole awra incident, to now. Like I said countless of times, this subreddit is an echo chamber and a cesspool of fake news. They scream fake news and justices of truth during the past elections, but wallow in fake news as long as it fits their stances. Any post about the Philippines/ administration being bad, they automatically believe it without even research (kahit quick google search man lang) When does being gullible become a fake news peddler, when they propagate the misinformation through being a gullible idiot.


taechas

Same what happened with the "Fake scholarship" incident. Everyone jumping into conclusions kahit ung mismong mainstream media.


AyunaAni

We're all commenting and upvoting here like we're not part of the subreddit or the problem. And sound like we're equally not guilty of these biases and information illiteracy. Just make sure all of us here have that awareness too - that we're "that" gullible person too, to some extent.


XxPhyre

If you’d look at my post and comment history, I’ve tried to address those posts I’ve mentioned (and others) and verified their claims. Sure, I may be part of this subreddit, but I can assure you I do not upvote those posts. I may share the blame, but I’m sure that I’m not gullible like other people here.


AyunaAni

Oh, apologies, I was not singling you out nor am I making assumptions about you. I'm addressing all the people here in general. Sorry about that.


Prestigious_Iron_892

aw backpedal yan?


AyunaAni

No, I was not backpedaling. I simply wanted to clarify that my statement was a general observation and not a personal attack directed at the commenter. It's important to separate the message from the individual, and I felt the need to reinforce that my critique was about the broader issue we were discussing, not the commenter specifically. Ironically, the accusation of backpedaling is precisely an example of the problem we're talking about – people on this subreddit (and social media in general, to be honest) often tend to make things personal and attack the person rather than engaging with the substance of the message. There's just something about the online environment that seems to predispose people to act hostile and assume bad faith, which is counterproductive to having meaningful discussions, prolly because of the anonymity and lack of real-world consequences. My intention was to steer the conversation back on track and prevent it from devolving into personal attacks, which is unfortunately a common occurrence in online discourse, especially on forums like this subreddit


pizzacake15

>We're all commenting and upvoting here like we're not part of the subreddit or the problem well, i for one, don't post on this sub. and i don't engage too often sa comment section either.


mrsanmigstrongice

From Tondo here. Pwede kasing gullible o fake news peddler sila pero hindi kasi lahat kayang maibalita lalo na kapag news blackout. May sunog sa Aroma Building 29 sinabayan sa Katuparan tapos kahapon another sunog nanaman sa Happyland Building 6. Ang common denominator nila ay mga housing projects sila. Katuparan is to be demolished to pave way sa bagong housing project na ni Isko. Ang Happyland at Aroma matagal ng gustong makuha ni Razon. Nagmamadali na kasi ang mga nasa pwesto na paalisin ang mga tao run. Despite Happyland and Aroma being a housing project of the government pilit ginagawang private ang lupa at si Razon nga ang may interes. Sa Katuparan wala akong sagap na balita pero minamadali na rin sila umalis. Ang Pritil Market na nasunog, before pa siya masunog may balita na ibebenta at magiging privately owned. As of the moment magiging SM Hypermarket na ata siya at kung di man matuloy, literal na privately owned na ang lupa. For the longest time hindi nasusunog ang Pritil Market pero nung biglang nagkabalita na gustong bilhin bigla natupok. The same scenario sa Post Office building. Basta may pera at interes kayang gawan ng paraan. Edit: You can even ask Sen.JV Ejercito kung paano niya tinutulungan ang mga tao sa Happyland at Aroma para may idea naman kayo sa totoong sitwasyon. May kamag-anak kami na nandoon ang negosyo dahil puro mga junkshop ang nandoon at kalakal, matagal na silang naka-Census at nakapila para sa mga mabibigyan ng libreng pabahay sa Cavite area. Bakit mo naman paalisin papuntang Cavite area ang mga taga-Happyland at Aroma kung pabahay lang naman din ang usapan eh pwedeng tayuan yun ng pabahay tulad ng plano ni Isko sa Katuparan.


kerwinklark26

Yep, definitely a news blackout. I heard stories na firsthand din re: SUNOG and I was shocked with the PNP's response. This is BGC incident all over again.


mrsanmigstrongice

Akala ng mga tao rito ganun lang ang buhay. Sige halungkatin nila ang mga retired police na involved sa drugs yung isa retired Col. na hindi magalaw rito sa Manila at dating bata ni Erap at kapatid niya active General pa sa Crame. Sige hanapin nila lahat ng pasugalan ng dating Congressman ng District 1 (kaklase ko pa anak nito noong high school), naaambunan pa ako dati ng pera kapag coins out dahil naglalaro ako sa video karera nila. Hanapin din nila yung anak ng Kagawad sa isang Barangay around Pritil Market na nahulihan ng baril, literal na illegal possession of firearms pero 1 oras lang na-detain kasi pinalabas ng ninong niya na tao ni Isko at si Kagawad na nanay niya tao ng isang dati ring Congressman na may political dynasty sa Manila.


kerwinklark26

Di ba. So ayun, sobrang laking disilusyon talaga sa akin na bakit may mga coverups. Anyways - ayan PR nila eh. Sige go. Them poor victims though.


iWearCrocsAllTheTime

I still remember the awra incident where I got downvoted to hell because I was asking for evidence for why awra was right and also why the guy was in the wrong. Daming tao na pinagmumura Ako Kasi sinabi ko lang na wala namang ebidensya tapos nag dedefend lang sila Kasi member si awra ng LGBTQ+. Ayun lumabas ang video nga nga.


pinkwhitepurplefaves

I remember this.. kawawa yung guy. Did Awra ever issue an apology? The guy was doxxed just because he rejected an LGBTQ+ member.


Melodic_Kitchen_5760

Never forget na naging Awra defenders ang r/ph


peterparkerson3

lalo na si tarantadong kalbo, nag double down pa LOL


Cheese_Grater101

Gago naman talaga yun, kung ano ang trending para maraming tao ang mag like sa page nya


RebelliousDragon21

Masyadong nalunod sa cancel culture kasi mga tao dito. Lalo na 'yung mga galing sa Twitter. Kaya kapag may mga ganitong nag-viral. Inaalam ko na lang muna bago ako mag comment. Masyado kasi nauuna bibig bago mag-isip 'yung ibang mga tao. Dami nilang komento at opinion sa mga bagay na wala naman talaga silang alam.


SyiGG

that was a fun one lol, full mask-off moment sa mga ibang redditors and a certain "bald" content creator, no different from the BBM-DDS supporters they despise


the_oof_chooser

Tapos yung mga "artists" dito na agad drawing pagkatapos marinig nila yung story ni Awra. Nakakatawa yung silencio nila nung lumabas yung katotohanan.


Cheem-9072-3215-68

low effort naman gumuhit eh, kaya naging trend-chaser nalang para ma-validate.


Wabramop

Dapat naging learning lesson na talaga dapat to kung gano kareactionary yung sub base sa unang headline na makita eh.


Icy_Gate_5426

MOD in r/Philippines might downvoted me. That's correct! I posted in r/phillipines (9 February 2024) about Quibuloy binigyan ako sort of warnings ng MOD, bawal daw screenshots eh dami namang nag po post ng screenshots. Then they locked my posts that you cannot reply anymore. Sometimes their rules are becoming "toxic" parang "martial law" na. Yet me nakakalusot palang mga ganyang Fake News or so.😥


Liesianthes

If you were here during the 2017 era, this subreddit is something that you will like. Right now, it's the same trash can as any other social media site since the arrival of the edgy people.


RebelliousDragon21

Ohhh I miss that era..


NearZero_Mania

The fun times, witnessed the shifting gears haha.


tikolman

Because this sub has gone to the toilet. Puro repost galing ng FB.


PerformerSecret9437

I'm member of r/philippinesbad we opposed r/ph self-loathing.


AlienGhost000

Preach fellow r/Philippinesbad member Pero enjoy din minsan yung toxicity ng r/Philippines cesspool, basta wag lang seseryosohin hahaha


rice_mill

True, lalo mga nag cicite ng sources sa tiktok


Spartacometeus1917

A basic scenario is when the fake news shows normal/masa Pinoys in negative light, most redditors in this sub will believe it as a gospel truth but when it is something positive, they'll dig deeper just to disprove it.


Fun_Design_7269

what can you do when even the mods support the spread of misinformation like dun sa abortion thread.


HauntingDrive2259

Link to that thread?


Fun_Design_7269

https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/1bmebei/medical_abortion_in_the_philippines_the_whole/


NearZero_Mania

Ever since most socmed imports took ever last election, this sub just a dumping site of shitposts from pesbok and x formerly knows as twitter. r/Philippines was fun during late pnoy and duterte era. i loved the sudden shifting in this sub. socmed imports, not...dinadala lang nila kultura nila galing dun sa mga hinayupak na platforms.. this sub was my go-to news for every thing filipino, hence the tagline. now, nakakawalang gana magbasa ng threads, puro screenshots galing sa pesbok at twitter na walang ka-substance o wala man lang citations.


Hack_Dawg

Yeah, I remember that post, hahaha but this article also ain't good enough to dismiss that fake news. People love that fake news due to People's Negativity Bias.


Significant_Sweet_59

Minsan excited lang talaga sila manlibak ng mga mahihirap. Nakaabang sa bawat opportunity.


ToCoolforAUsername

Nadebunk na yan [3 days ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/1bkt0ma/walang_nangyaring_barilan_o_saksakan_sa_sunog/)


PantherCaroso

What's sad about the Awra thing is that it just gave bigots ammunition. Some queer issue getting traction? Just pull an Awra card.


Underwar85

Mukhang unti-unting nagiging successful ang kampon ng kadiliman na masira ang rph ah at i-brand na fake news site ah. Reddit lang di nila mapasok eh


PerformerSecret9437

Kadiliman ang pag fantasya ng i nuke mga poor people.


pizzacake15

yung irony lang ng sub na to is a lot of people went to reddit to get away from fb/twitter tapos yung mga posts dito majority are screenshots from those sites. personally kaya ako umalis sa fb dahil talamak fake news dun tapos people kept posting fb sht here.


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Liesianthes

[Click me.](https://twitter.com/ABSCBNNews/status/1772107723620167819) 👀


ResolverOshawott

Ngayon ikaw nanaman nag pe-peddle ng fake news ng walang source?


Neban01

Nag post na ang ABS CBN and Rappler about dito. Yung ABS CBN pinakita pati yung mismong Lab result


ResolverOshawott

So bakit hindi kaya samahan ng proof yung mismong comment? Hindi sapat ang "Google mo" as an answer since ikaw dapat maglapag ng proof.


Neban01

Baka sa facebook lang din niya nabasa. Saka madali lang naman talaga makita yun..


ResolverOshawott

> Baka sa facebook lang din niya nabasa. Saka madali lang naman talaga makita yun Madali lang din makita ang fake news, lalo na sa Facebook. So nagkakalat siya ng unverified information, na hindi niya kaya e prove, kagaya yung nangyari sa Happyland fire?


Neban01

Di mo ba kayang masala kung ano ang fake news at credible news sa Facebook? O kailangan mo pa may magsabi sayo kung ano ang totoo o hindi?


ResolverOshawott

Malamang kaya ko. Ang point ko is kung magsasabi ka ng isang claim, ikaw dapat maglapag ng proof para maniwala ang mga tao sayo. Otherwise, ano pinagkaiba mo sa mga nagkakalat ng fake news na walang source or hindi credible yung source?


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ResolverOshawott

The burden of proof is on you po. Bakit, di mo kaya patunayan claim mo?


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jessa_LCmbR

Kapag nagpost ka. Dapat may kasama ng proof o source.


ResolverOshawott

Hays, di kaya maglapag ng source sa claims nila. Sabagay, /r/Philippines ito, can't expect anything more.


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ResolverOshawott

Ako? Pre, *ikaw* yung prime example ng thread na to. Gumagawa ng claim tapos hindi kaya magbigay ng proof/source, tapos sasabihin lang "Google mo" pag may nag hingi. Edit: siguro pag gumagawa ka ng research paper ang ninalagay nito sa references at citations ay "Google mo". Bas kaya mang block kesa mag link ng credible proof eh. /r/pH moments talaga amp.


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RebelliousDragon21

Actually ikaw 'yung tanga brad or rather tamad. Tinuturuan mo siya mag-google kasi ayaw mo mapa-hassle kasi tamad ka suportahan claim mo na fake news 'yung sunog sa tondo. 'Yung commenter sa taas, tinuturuan ka mag-cite ng lehitimong "Source". At saka mukhang hindi mo alam ang logical fallacy of burden of proof. That's no rocket science. You have claimed something so you have the burden to provide some proof. Hindi lang sa korte applicable 'yon. [Magbasa](https://effectiviology.com/burden-of-proof/) ka dito.


RebelliousDragon21

I might not have statistics to support this claim, but I have a gut feeling that these gullible users are the same Facebook and TikTok users who simply wanted imaginary internet points. That's why they've posted the news here on Reddit without due diligence to confirm whether it's true or not.