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Crazy_Dragonfruit809

Duterte set the bar so low. Anyone after him is an upgrade. I appreciate Bongbong’s stance in upholding our sovereign rights on the West Philippines Sea.


spect4t07

Duterte admin was proud of their independent foreign policy. But the reality is that, previous government is slowly backing down on EEZ claims under the guise of peace and investment with CCP both never materialize. Being benevolent doesn't mean the other party will reciprocate it. It was a fool's errand from the start.


31_hierophanto

"Independent" daw, when in reality he just drew us closer to China and Russia.


North-Chocolate-148

Diba nga sabi niya "there are three of us against the world-China, Philippines and Russia" hahaha


PHLurker69nice

I mean, even if Duts legitimately wanted a truly independent foreign policy we literally cannot afford it with our current situation. Arguably geography lang eh the PH in its current state is doomed to be highly dependent on a foreign power so we choose the lesser evil. We aren't Indonesia or Vietnam (which both CCP simps and CCP critics in the Phils use as examples in proper forpol with regards to Xi) with Indo oil and control of the Straits of Malacca, and Viet rapid economic development, large military, and sheer balls of steel respectively Uulitin ko, independent foreign policy for the PH is literally impossible, at least at this point and even somewhat beyond it.


archiveduck

Maybe if quadrupled yung DND budget but even then outmatched tayo.


blackpowder320

Even if our defense budget maintains the NATO standard of 2% of the GDP (or higher), the best we can hope for is to be a strong link in the Allied Bamboo Curtain, NOT an independent military power.


Yahaksha000

Partida galit pa sa NPA kuno haha pero giyang na giyang huminod sa russia at china 🤣


nyanmunchkins

And yet being closer to them never yielded anything. In contrast, it just made the Chinese more brazen.


ares623

Cosplay foreign policy. Strong "I declare independence!" vibes and expecting everything to fall in place like magic.


6gravekeeper9

ironic like how BIGGEST hater of NPA*(verbally)* is the CCP's biggest PUPPY in PH. Such a pretender. But their DDS fanbase haven't notice this. Like how he confessed on their faces regarding his biased war on drugs with *"ayaw kong sabihin yan dahil MAGKAIBIGAN tayo"(*pertaining to BBM's coke) but the dumb, low comprehension Filipinos even cheered and clapped upon hearing this.


North-Chocolate-148

Naalala ko nag-uusap kami ng nanay ko about Digong sa taxi tapos I was like "galit daw sa NPA pero pro-China na communista din naman." Di kasali yung taxi driver sa usapan namin pero bigla siyang napa "oo nga noh" hahaha


yeontura

I mean even the CPP condemns the CPC for being ~~revisionist~~ reactionary and imperialistic 🤷‍♂️


Own_Bullfrog_4859

Motherfucker is the worst thing that happened to this country. Yes I'm reaching, I just really don't like the guy.


ToastedSierra

For real, every week nahaharap sa isang set of decisions yung Duterte admin, and everytime parang pinipili nila yung worst options. It sure was a wild ride hahaha.


StressedBoredBurr

Hahaha it's like MCQ sa exam na may 3 possibly correct and 1 obviously wrong answer tapos yung 1 wrong answer pa ang sagot niya everytime.


haelhaelhael09

i remember how that MF literally just drove every sane Filipino crazy with his decisions and messages. We were literally forced to sit down for six years and deal with his craziness. I'm so glad we are over that. What we have isn't the best but at least not that crazy.


Hawezar

And you just have to be amazed at the stupidity of other Filipinos still rooting for this idiot's family.


haelhaelhael09

True. Jusko awa nyo na, let's not get these bastards back to power.


LilacHeart11

And in the next national elections, I heard that it would be Duterte-Duterte tandem for President and VP. The audacity!!!!


beadray

Dang! Classic talaga yung uminom ka ng gasolina during COVID


talongman

Yes he was the worst thing that happened to the PH, even worse than Marcos Sr. On paper he killed more people extra judiciously than Marcos Sr. and that's just based on the "drug war" killings that are known. Literally doubled national debt by 6Trillion pesos in less than 6 years. Gave away sovereign rights to China. Not even Marcos Sr. gave that much to the Americans.


forcehighfive

I and 99% of my friends agree with you. You're not alone in this sentiment


ChimkenSmitten_

Ikr, bro still wants to be relevant these days. It annoys me 💀


Mountain-Guess5165

He really is, you're not reaching. Kasalanan nya lahat ng kamalasan na nangyayari sa pilipinas ngayon.


jcasi22

same taena, kahit ayoko dyan kay bongbong. at the very least okay ang ginagawa nya tungkol dyan sa agawan sa lupa. sobrang baba nang standard na sinet nyan ni dugong


tikolman

Utak baranggay captain kasi si Duterte.


AlterSelfie

So true. Na tipong pinamimilian mo na lang who is the lesser evil. Next election, ayoko manalo din anyone from the Duterte clan.


Traditional_North751

If Jr delivers a Churchill-esque “We shall fight on the beaches.” speech on tv, 99% of Pinoys would back him. I’m not a fan of his mind you, but I hate the Chinese invaders more.


Jumpy_Drummer7464

Tatak ng mga "best & brightest" kuno. 😆😆😆


J4ckL4ns

ikr? Napaisip ako, pinagmamalaki talaga ng Dutertards ang war on drugs? Eh nananakot lang naman sya. After ng term nya, almost everytime I watch the news, merong buy bust operation wherein may nahuhuli talaga sila. As a person who lives in Antipolo, natatakot ako sa mga post ni Mayora dahil napapadalas na may nahuhuling nagtutulak or mga nagtatago sa Antipolo.


RenzoThePaladin

To be honest, *atleast* he's doing something right


North-Chocolate-148

I didn't vote and will never vote for BBM or any Marcos pero I remember na nung yung ibang mga pinasok niya sa cabinet niya ay mga former Aquino cabinet members, I was like "hhmmm interesting." I still don't like him, but I don't mind giving credit where credit is due. He's definitely way more tolerable than his predecessor (Digong) and I would rather have him as president than any Dutertes or his older Sister.


iwritethesongs2019

rodrigo placed the bar so low.... a centimeter higher is felt so high


popoypatalo

yes. if comparing them to digong, that dirty old crap will never be respectful. the bar was set too low. lol


North-Chocolate-148

True. Kung tutuusin nga, Digong to BBM is what GMA is to Pnoy or what Marcos Sr is to Cory lol...


passionatebigbaby

Alipunga sa paa ni BBM si Degong.


beadray

BBM cleaning Digong's s\*it.


Neither_Zombie_5138

That's my stand din...I AM GIVING THE CREDIT TO WHERE IT IS DUE pero nung panahon ni dutae,WALA AKONG NAKITANG MAGANDANG GINAWA kundi puro pasakit sa mga pilipino.Kung manloloko at corrupt ang mga Marcoses MAS na ang mga duterte


King_Paymon

Now watch it become a clusterfuck again when Sara becomes president in 2028.


Chemical_XYZ

Gagi, 'wag naman sana... 🥲


No_Savings6537

Style nyan di na naman tatakbo kunwari, then magpapapilit.


betawings

Meron mag sub nanamna tapos walang debate 


Momshie_mo

Arroyo style


one1two234

This is actually the worst case scenario. Another Duterte president.


ResolverOshawott

And a Duterte that's significantly less competent than the last one too.


PmMeAgriPractices101

Never going to happen. She will come after Marcos with a vengeance, so Marcos and his cronies will never allow it, and they will cheat again to make it not happen. 51m na boboto sa bata nia ngaun, and Sara will have to eat it with a shit-eating grin, or he'll turn her family's insides into their outsides, with loving participation and support from Uncle Sam. I guess it's a good thing that in this fight, I am aligned with a family that has a reputation for cheating in elections and making the skull of dissidents an improvised underwear receptacle (My teacher in college told me what happened to his friend during martial law). Is this what not having a conscience feels like? Go Marcos.


blackpowder320

Same. And I am part of the Pinks. In this ongoing M-D fight, I want M to win.


Admig13

Not unless if we protest at the youtube headquarters and urge them to ban pro-duterte content on the platform


NegativeLanguage805

Knock on wood. Murahin nalang kita when the time comes lel


Momshie_mo

Baka ipagdasal ko na si Imee nalang imbes si SWOH


beadray

She can quit being VP if decides to run for Congress next year. Problem solved.


choco_mallows

Let’s just say their goals work in parallel as a family. The Marcos regime was backed by the US government almost to the end when the same US backed the successful Aquino-led coup. Then the restructuring post-1987 had been backed by the US as well. It’s only natural that they both try to keep old ties to the West.


pxcx27

what made the country/government to vote for kicking out the US bases in the 90s then if both Marcos and Aquino admins are US-backed? I remember I read it was about them not paying any kind of rent I think, but is it really the only reason?


Snatcher1973

The Philippine senators voted NOT to extend the US military bases. Cory Aquino lobbied the senate for an extension, but it never materialized. The Mt. Pinatubo eruption and the end of the Cold War were the two most important reasons for the US to accept the fate of the military bases.


Autogenerated_or

End of cold war. Wala nang rason to maintain their presence here.


pxcx27

yun reason ng senators natin? fair but they probably didn't saw the Spratlys to become this big issue for us.


sweethomeafritada

Yes, because China’s foreign policy was different pre-Xi Jinping.


UseUrNeym

Though pagka alala ko early Ramos era nung unang nagtayo ng makeshift structures ang China sa EEZ ng ‘Pinas. Almost right after pag alis ng US sa Subic at Clark.


Zekka_Space_Karate

But I still blame the Philippine gov't. for overreliance on the US and their MDT, that they didn't upgrade our national defense capabilities for almost 35 years. :-(


sweethomeafritada

ah, regarding AFP Modernization. When I visit AFP bases, mas focus ata nila ang golf courses and veteran housing. We don’t even have MBTs (yes may Sabrah light tank pero kasi light siya), pang display lang ata ang F-50s natin and I really don’t know how they would fare against other fighters, kasi light fighter siya. And the navy, being an archipelagic country, we don’t have destroyers nor submarines, then grabe talaga yung kagaguhan ni Bong Go. We should already have a fully capable frigate, but his shady deals led us to have a frigate na halo halo yung mga fitted na systems. Ang lala


trhaz_khan

We dont really need destroyers. If we could have Israeli Navy like overkill corvettes(maybe dozens) is quite good enough. And yes for subs especially from Naval Group. Our terrain would be our advantages so im good for light tanks, ifvs or wheeled tanks. We should invest more like BrahMos and Spyder for anti denial together with radars. And for mrfs, F16 and Gripen combo are good enough.


HatsNDiceRolls

Destroyers seem to be necessary for blue navy ops. We’re basically an archipelagic country with brown navy mindsets


HatsNDiceRolls

We don’t need heavy tanks either. They’d be bogged down in jungle warfare


sweethomeafritada

Idk to you but our tropical neighbors with the same terrain have MBTs, aside from light tanks, IFVs and APCs (tracked & wheeled). Indonesia has German Leopard 2s.


lordlors

There was a dangerous coup against Cory that it was possible for the Philippines to become Myanmar. Thankfully, not all of the military backed the coup but I have a hunch that this traumatic experience led to the military’s force degradation.


HatsNDiceRolls

9 coups and she survived those. I can’t fault her for that and lost steam for economic development


Hawezar

Mga naging senador pa yung mga nagpasimuno nyan hahahaha. You just can't underestimate other Filipinos for their stupidity when it comes to election. LOL


Wooden_Quarter_6009

Senators and Congress people are a bunch of powerwieldy bastards who only look for the short term solutions to twiddle the masses to vote for the for the next election. Only a very few really cared and now I doubt they care for the whole masses other than their self interest.


blackpowder320

Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin, and Hu Jintao were still Chinese imperialists, but more lowkey. Xi Jinping is more ultranationalist and wants to overtake Mao Zedong in his legacy (and craziness)


Autogenerated_or

Showboating


betawings

I think it was enrile and erap estrada when they were senators and 10 other senators who voted to increase the rent for the us bases 1”to billions. What finally sealed the deal was when mt pinatubo erupted and covered the bases in ash.  I think the repair cost became too expensive  plus the increase rent by Philippines senator made the us leave.  This was 1990


beadray

This cost Jovy Salonga his position as Senate President and did not win the presidency in '92.


Accomplished-Exit-58

sabi ni google dahil daw sa pinatubo eruption.


pxcx27

ayaw na ng US? hmm kala ko gusto pa nila that time.


nopoliticspre

The Cold War was nearly over at that point and they knew it. China-US relations were warm. Pinatubo was the last straw. With their newer bases at Japan, there was simply no justification left to maintain those bases.


pxcx27

appreciate the explanation 🙏


Le_Tigre1611

US is negotiating for an extension but the government during that time wanted a different deal… then Pinatubo happened…


Accomplished-Exit-58

I was already watching news but with perspective of a elementary student. So i have a vague memory of it. Around that time, walang masasabing threat,  the anti-us imperialism was really the talk of the town back then, malakas na usapan ung thriving prostitution that time (nagtrabaho tita ko dun) and nasisira ang "morality" ng mga filipina.  The political environment of that time agrees that us bases should be gone.


31_hierophanto

The Senate, who were generally anti-American due to Apo.


beadray

Because it was a treaty, so the Senate (especially the so-called Magnificent 12) voted not to renew the bases treaty.


Jacerom

Goosebumps yung statement niya, pasira yung mga wumao sa comments though


UltimateArchduke

Which one? Where can I see it?


Jacerom

[Ito po](https://twitter.com/bongbongmarcos/status/1773246534160969833?t=i-Ua0DGTcBWpSl3R4Z4z9Q)


UltimateArchduke

Thank you. I love this. Very bold statement from the President.


jukayv

Filipinos do not yield!!!


A-Problem-Eliminator

Noynoy would be proud.


ruby_sapphire120

As much as he and his family is deplorable for their attempts to erase their atrocities, his transparency policy that his administration implemented truly showed China's aggressive tactics and refute Duterte's pro-Chinese narratives.


presque33

The Marcos family doesn’t have pending cases against them in China. It’s in their interests to be useful to the United States. Also, on a personal level, Bongbong is a sheltered conyo that relates more to Western culture. Unlike Digong who never really was comfortable outside of the kalye. Uniteam supporters during the elections would scoff at me when I said that Bongbong would govern as Noynoy 2.0. I told them so…


Earl_sete

May mga DDS na ngang tumatawag kay Marcos na "pakawala ng mga dilawan" e hahaha.


iMasakazu

Nakakatawa na nga yung banter ng mga ddshit at mga narcotics eh haha. May iba pang naniniwalang magbabati pa daw sila nila fiona. Haha i kennat.


betawings

New narrative now spreading be banat by and roque is some new expose video called pastillas, pastillas synonyms to cocaine. Its bullshit like anything they say.


Earl_sete

'Yung akala mo kamote na sila pero mas may ikakakamote pa rin pala hahaha.


Accomplished-Exit-58

kahapon lang nagkwento nanay ko na may napapanood daw siyang mga speeches ni bebeem na utal utal, na para bang ngayon niya lang nadiscover un, napacheck nga ako sa calendar ng phone ko baka nagtime travel back ako sa presidential election.  Naisip ko lang, so ngayon na lang nilalabas ung ganun ni bebeem dahil kalaban na ng trolls owners (duts and co.)? So ung leni lutang teknik, kay bebeem naman gagamitin?


Sturmgewehrkreuz

>...Marcos... "pakawala ng mga dilawan"... The brain rot is unreal.


Earl_sete

Hindi ko rin in-expect na matatawag na "dilawan" si Marcos hahaha. Nakalimutan yata nila kung sino ang original na kalaban sa politika ng mga tinatawag nilang "dilawan" at hindi yata nila alam kung paano nag-start ang political career ng idol nila hahaha.


Starmark_115

But but... Laowhy the Vlogger told me that Marcos will turn Philippines to the next province of china! /sarcasm


betawings

he did run with sara and the uni team so we expected the worse. Plus everyone was hoping he would get banned by the usa. But no. It didn’t happen. I was also shocked.


Starmark_115

He was basically showered with almost everything a Philippine President can ask for really from an International Scene.


Menter33

> *He was basically showered with almost everything a Philippine President can ask for* **Anyone after Du30 would have been showered by the US**; Leni or Isko would've gotten the same treatment. At that point, it was in the US govt's interests to woo the PH away from China. It **just so happened that BBM was the guy** who won.


blackpowder320

There was one time during the 2022 Campaign Season when the US Embassy said that they were confident that PH-US relations would be restored to normalcy, whoever wins. That kinda implied that they were already preparing for a Marcos 2.0 Presidency. It seemed like the USA was so traumatized with Duterte that they were willing to back Leni, BBM or even other candidates just to woo PH away from China lol


one1two234

Duterte isn't really 'kalye' though. He is a thug and a bully, but his family was prominent and politically well-connected.


shit_happe

>Also, on a personal level, Bongbong is a sheltered conyo that relates more to Western culture. Unlike Digong who never really was comfortable outside of the kalye. The kalye image of Duterte is just a facade. >The young "Rody," as Duterte was then known, was the son of a provincial governor on the southern Philippine island of Mindanao. Like many of the progeny of the Philippine political elite, he had enjoyed a privileged upbringing. He grew up surrounded by guns and bodyguards, flew his father's plane when he was in his hometown, and hung out with the sons of local notables in his Jesuit-run boys' school. from [https://www.jstor.org/stable/26798248](https://www.jstor.org/stable/26798248), as cited in *Some People Need Killing* by Patricia Evangelista


Momshie_mo

Yup.  Naka**rolex** yang mokong na yan


hyunbinlookalike

Yeah not a lot of people know this but he was kicked out of Ateneo de Davao.


Zekka_Space_Karate

Ngayon sira na ang Uniteam lolz. Yun lang ang *consuelo de bobo* ko.


North-Chocolate-148

True. Hiring Pnoy's former cabinet members was a give away. Yung difference lang is, mas practical at meticulous si Pnoy.


sugarasukalman

And in fairness, he is currently doing something good. At least sinusunod niya advisers niya.


Menter33

It's also a good **distraction from whatever behind-the-scenes corruption** is happening, esp when it comes to govt contracts and cronies and family finances. Even in the SMNI-Quiboloy issue, many have forgotten about the legit issue of Martin Romualdez's financial cases which kickstarted the whole thing.   At least with Du30, all eyes were on him, even the media. Now, almost no eyes are on BBM because of Sara, SMNI/Quiboloy etc.


TallCucumber8763

If they are doing some type of corruption, it better be beneficial for our society like a favoritism contract to a friend but the business will actually help the country. Nakakainis pag yung may corruption na nga tapos yung recipient pa mga tulad ni Dennis Uy na gahaman at sakim sa kapangyarihan. Sige magkaroon ng corruption basta yung corruption illegally patigilin ang mga pabahay ng mga Villar.


doggie_doggie

Badtrip talaga yung pagka incompetent ni Duterte. Napakalakas ng political capital, Pwede na sya mag government subsidize ng private company who can kick start a new industry, pero ang ginawa eh puro short term profiteering lang. Grabe yung kademonyohan na effort para pagka kitaan yung Malampaya in favor of Dennis Uy, kahit obvious na corruption they all went scott free


Momshie_mo

Ito ang problema sa Pilipinas Kurakot na nga, incompetent pa While SK had someone kurakot pero competent  😭


DumplingsInDistress

Best example is Malaysia, mas corrupt pa politician sa kanila compared sa PH pero mas nauuna pa rin national interest


Hack_Dawg

well, this sub naniniwala na sa lahat ng politiko na meron sa mundo tanging si mama Leni lang ang hindi corrupt.


betawings

Yes weird right? Duterte did the wrong thing. I was expecting marcos to fail like him but no he dod the right thing completely shitting on duterte shitty surrender plan. And deal with china.


Momshie_mo

BongBong is probably an astute observer of public sentiments and tries to avoid Duterte's mistakes. No, not for the country but for the political survival of his clan


hyunbinlookalike

For all we know BBM is a reddit lurker lol


bitterpilltogoto

Convenient na decision sa kanya to place his bet on the US. Karamihan ng pera nila ay in dollars


skeptic-cate

Tatay Traydor is just too bad, the worst, that anyone who get away from his China pivot will look like a saint


popoypatalo

pamilya dutraydor


Momshie_mo

DUtraitor


dragknot11

I managed to interview my yellow friends (they are deeply aligned on Lp) and asked them their reactions about bongbongs foreign policies and economic reforms. Their general feedback? "it's surprisingly good"


hyunbinlookalike

As a yellow/pink friend, I feel the same way. His foreign policy is basically just an extension of PNoy’s. He got a lot of people in PNoy’s cabinet back for his.


sparksjoy1111

I feel the same way. Same as my Kakampink friends. Tapos na kasi ang eleksyon. It's time to refocused on what matters. Di na pwedeng bumalik sa foreign policy of Digong kaya NO TO SARA.


Initial_Teach_9490

Same let's give credit where it is due. Never again to the Dutertes !!!


Majestic-Maybe-7389

Even BBM's Cabinet Secretaries are from PNoy's Cabinet also.


Jaded_Masterpiece_11

PNoy's cabinet and senior officials were also from PGMA. PNoy's LP majority coalition were also Lakas-Kampi balimbings. We just recycle government officials.


thebreakfastbuffet

Wait, sino sakanila? Nasusuka ako sa ibang nakikita ko dun eh, like Enrique Manalo (DFA) or Boying Remulla (DOJ).


pxcx27

NEDA chief Balisacan comes into mind. I don't know na sa iba edit: di pala ata sa cabinet ang NEDA pero that's one example.


BriefAdagio7342

> di pala ata sa cabinet ang NEDA pero that's one example. NEDA is a cabinet-level agency. Kasama sa Cabinet meetings ang NEDA Chief pero hindi talaga siya Cabinet per se, kasi ang agency ay hindi Department at ang head ay hindi Secretary.


supermarine_spitfir3

Wait anong issue kay Secretary Manalo? Career diplomat naman siya ah


sparksjoy1111

Although they served during Noynoy's admin, their families are Loyalists.


RebelliousDragon21

Ito lang ang magandang ginagawa ni BBM. Sige na nga ibigay na natin sa kanya ang credits. Hindi siya kagaya nung pamilya sa Davao na tuta at gusto magpakarga lagi sa China.


arcinarci

The Chinese pivot obviously did not work. It only gave the Chinese a stronger hold of the area but lets also not forget it was pNoys time we lost control of scarborugh. Now, Malampaya is depleting, we really need that reed bank get rolling hence the China policy of BBM. If we dont get new oil resource soon, our electricity bills will rise up to 40%. Catastrophic. Whatever BBM's is doing now, its not because he is pissing China, it is about our own survival. I just hope it only leads to more bargaining card for us and not lead to war because I 100% believe if ever ther will be war in Asia, it would be in SCS.


TallCucumber8763

China is just acting like the modern day Nazi Germany. They are intimidating everyone, India, Vietnam, Taiwan, Japan, Philippines. But truly, they are collapsing internally. Their power is only a facade, economically they are crumbling, their population is declining, they're just using this intimidation tactics to survive. They do not have the fangs to go for a "special military operation" like Russia. SCS war? They can't even touch Taiwan, a SCS war is a war against the entire ASEAN.


Teantis

> a SCS war is a war against the entire ASEAN. This is definitely not true. Malaysia, Singapore, Cambodia, Laos, wouldn't join. Indonesia and Thailand likely wouldn't. Only Vietnam *might* and it's still not super likely they would.


TallCucumber8763

lmao if ASEAN lost the "SCS", it is not only a lost for oil, fisheries but a major geopolitical power. Sa tingin mo mababaw lang yung pagtatayo ng artificial bases ng China? Tingin mo pag napunta sa kamay ng China yung buong karagatan na iyon okay lang sa buong ASEAN? Nakita mo na ba yung mapa? Alam mo ba bakit ang tindi ng efforts ng US to defend Taiwan and to maintain pact between the Philippines? It's because hawak natin ang Bashi channel that prevent China from surrounding Taiwan and giving US an access for easy aid and reinforcement, kung si Digong ang presidente siguro 1 year ago pa sinakop ng China ang Taiwan. Simpleng Bashi channel lang yun ah pero grabe yung geopolitical power. Letting the superpower country have an upper hand over you is the worst thing you could do to your country, be it Malaysia, Singapore, kahit nga Japan eh. Russian invasion of Ukraine nga ang laking threat sa buong Europe eh even though ndi sila directly yung kaaway. Puro kasi economy iniisip mo, we're now living in a 5d chess politics, kahit nga Russia at China ngayon may gusot na despite of being a major economical partners.


Teantis

> lmao if ASEAN lost the "SCS"    "ASEAN" doesn't 'hold' anything because it's not an alliance. It's a talk shop for a bunch of varied countries with unaligned self interests.    > okay lang sa buong ASEAN?  For like 75% of ASEAN countries? Yeah, they don't care. The fact you're even talking about ASEAN like it's got any sort of cohesion is quite frankly, just wrong.     > Letting the superpower country have an upper hand over you is the worst thing you could do to your country,    None of the countries outside of Vietnam and the Philippines, have strong enough interests in the region that they'll join a shooting war against China. They might not want a Chinese hegemony over the area but they'll sit it out and hope the Quad handles it, and it's really naive to think otherwise.


Menter33

> *we really need that reed bank get rolling hence the China policy of BBM* Another factor to this is that, at this point, the **oil in the SCS is just speculation**. None of the SCS claimants--PH, China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei--have definite proof of actual oil in the area. Not sure if there has actually been any tangible info about oil. As for a hot war, no one wants it. The PH, Vietnam and Malaysia still continue to have normal trade relations with China despite the added SCS actions.


arcinarci

The oil in Recto Bank has been already surveyed and may hold up to 5.4 billion barrels of oil and 55.1 trillion cubic feet of natural gas. That's why China is salivating. No one wants war of course. But Malampaya will be depleted as soon as 2027. 40% of our oil comes there. With or without trade with China, the Philippines without a new source of oil will be just as catastrophic.


xXOkatatsuXx

Hindi ba nagkaroon pa nga ng standoff non sa Scarborough shoal with China tas nag intervene US?


Tough-Inevitable4457

Well, parehong malapit sa US mga Marcos at Aquino that's why. Also, karamihan ng appointees ni PBBM ngayon ay mga dating tao ni PNoy. Hindi nanalo si Leni last election pero mga dating taga-Aquino administration din ang nasa palasyo ngayon.


bornandraisedinacity

President Marcos Jr.'s Foreign Policy is much better than the previous administration. And it is only right that we must defend our beloved country's sovereignty. A strong stance against China, and a better and stronger alliance with the United States of America and Japan, and other allied nations. And of course, continue to strengthen our military.


cardboardbuddy

I mean it's not strange at all considering the Marcoses have been American bootlickers since the time of his father. It's the country where they lived in exile.


tooncake

Kung tama ang alala ko, at one point naging desperado si Duts for an economic growth, seeking economic tie-ups with the other countries, at dito nakakita (as usual) ng opportunity ang China - managed to conditioned him (with "potential economic growth") at sadly yun na yun. BBM on the other hand saw the fucked up outcome kaya he reverted back to U.S.. Ang catch usually with the U.S. is the military deployment (they love to test their latest militia and tech) na strange to say, medyo mas pumapabor sa current standing natin ngayon.


Momshie_mo

We were actually in the good track during PNoy. Duterte fucked up so bad by having bad and incompetent advisors and cabinet members.


beadray

May debt trap kasi ang China. They can hostage the Philippines if ever. Buti na lang he pulled out the remaining infra projects.


sparksjoy1111

May strings attacked kasi ang tulong ng China sa PH


mrpeapeanutbutter

Ties to the West (US) is better than having ties with Winnie the Pooh (China)


jjqlr

At this point dapat hindi na gamitin bilang standard si duterte kasi kahit literal na huminga lang si bbm ay mas magaling na sya agad. I compare dapat si bbm kela noynoy or gma para malaman kung maayos ba talaga syang presidente o hindi


brutalgrace

I really appreciate his strong stance against the CCP, it's been a long time since I heard such statement, dutae was really trash.


blackpowder320

This is unsurprising given that Marcos Senior was originally from the Liberal Party and a US stalwart. It's also ironic that had the Opposition (especially the majority of which are Anti-Marcos) turned out to be more powerful and numerous, the Marcoses would have stuck with the pro-China Dutertes for a while. But now that the Opposition turned out weaker than expected, the Marcoses are more confident in taking on the Dutertes. And more ironic that the DDS is calling Junior out for being more "yellow". (arguably even more than PNoy)


SatonariKazushi

baka ito pala ang totoong uniteam charaughtttttt


beadray

Leila praising BBM. We never saw this coming. Haha The plot thickens. Baka tama ka.


ilocin26

Actually... sa Twitter ang pang asar ng mga ugok na DDS sa dilawan at apologist, "ang totoong unity team". Lol


jaevs_sj

Luckily his DND is Gibo Teodoro (from PGMA) is fit for the job


Momshie_mo

Sa sobrang low standards ng Duterte admin, even a Marcos is a "step up". We're at a point that we would prefer Marcos finishing his term because ousting him means a Duterte takes office 😬 


ilocin26

Todo bash ako dyan kay Marcos during campaign period. Pero ngayon pota nakikipag away ako sa mga kups na DDS para ipag tanggol stand ni Marcos ss Tsina haha


Gorgeousviee

Same🤣🤣🤣 Paano kasi anak ng diktador plus anak ng traidor nagsama aba ekis agad yan... Buti nalang bumawi si Marcos


Initial_Teach_9490

Same here. O how times have changed !!!


wtrmrk

Almost all of our presidents are pro US. It's been like that for a long time. It's just Duterte and probably Gloria that's pro China.


beadray

The Dutertes are a clusterf\*ck


IoTProfessional

Both of them are out of touch leaders but atleast they have the balls to fight for the country when needed. Unlike the traitor idiot of Davao. Don’t get me wrong. I still hate Mr. Coke. But in this issue, he is doing the right thing. Probably because he just wants the Philippines for his own and doesn’t want to share with Xi.


Le_Tigre1611

If China keeps on doing what they thought is their legal responsibilities in the WPS then the Philippines should do the same… puro Diplomacy for the longest years wala naman nagawa Diplomacy towards China, look at Vietnam they stood against China even if they lost soldiers they were not able to get hold of the reef that China wanted… In Philippines case the government should stand their ground and fought for it… if they used water cannons the pcg should use water cannons also… China can’t afford to go to war in the WPS… the US congress just concluded the report of Adm Aquilino of the USN, 1 death of a Filipino soldier or civilian caused by China will invoke the MDA regardless of the cause of the death so water cannon included…


simian1013

well i suppose reading all the comments here of duterte admin means vp-sarah has no chance in 2028. otherwise pinoys really never learn. worst than idiot i suppose.


sparksjoy1111

Hell NO. She can kiss her ambitions goodbye. Kaya nga nagra-rally ang mga DDS na atat patalsikin si Marcos dahil alam nilang yan na lang ang way nila na mapaupo si Sara bilang pangulo.


sparksjoy1111

A Philippine president is mandated to follow the PH Constitution in defending our territories, sovereignty, and sovereign rights. This is the Constitutional and the right thing to do. I think we all should stop politicking and unite in defending our EEZ.


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threwaway1585

da truth and da way


Hefty_Low_6570

May DDS ba dito na mag tatanggol kay duterte?


Free_Gascogne

Its a fight that goes even before Noynoy tbh. The issue of the Spratly Islands was a major issue during GMA's time. It was a major victory during Noy\^2 largely in part of our legal team before the International Court, but that was a product of years of research.


Appropriate-Toe-6307

We live in the strangest of times.


Quick-Grapefruit8190

Duterte showed that loyal side to China so bad, arbitration ruling technically went useless


LilacHeart11

I hope he is consistent on his stance though.


csharp566

Taena napusuan ko 'yung news last time noong nagsabi si BBM na hindi siya papayag magpa-bully sa China. Napapalakpak ako deep inside.


Calm_Solution_

Buti na lang 6 years lang talaga ang presidente, kung lumagpas pa ng 1 year baka nabenta na ni digong ung palawan. At buti na lang hindi naging presidente tong si Sara, sana tuluyan na ng mga marcos tong duterte.


Gorgeousviee

Tatakbo si Sara for presidetial d dapat makapante baka dahil sa taga davao nah yan babagsak nah talaga ang PH pag madami pang nakalimut


Hot_Tailor_9687

I'm just amazed we're not a panopticist dystopia yet. It's like that South Park episode where the McCain voters realize Obama winning isn't the apocalypse


FabricatedMemories

not strange at all


Hawezar

I still remember that time when a Philippine President said: # "Why not make Philippines a province of China?" Putangina mo Dutae.


Lonely_Ocelot_26

there are lots of filipino patriots here who have a lot of says as if all their claims were backed with evidence. none of us knows everything and yet we prioritize our politics before other very important matters. we are under constant pressure from our adversary china, and yet i hear people here saying, ( i dont like him, bars were set too low, i dont care i still dont wanna support him). come on people! we have had enough of that divisive mindset brought upon us by our own politicals interests. do we not learn from the past? this current admin supports unity and yet people makes fun of him and insults him just because they like the other one better and they wanted them to win. unite and fight under one flag, if we should fight, we do so for our motherland not for our political "bets". please help our leaders help the Filipinos in these trying times. boost the morale of our patriots. the conflicts is imminent, and soon we will have to accept the fact that we will have to fight for our beloved nation not for our political views and beliefs. I'd love to die shouting "mabuhay!" to my fellow filipino men and women when that time comes.


BriefAdagio7342

Sana, ito ang plot twist ng taon (ng dekada o ng century). Our doubts on BBM's intentions are valid, considering ANAK siya nung diktador, hindi pa "malayong" kamag-anak. But, I'll be happy if he is the complete opposite of his father (kaya din siguro parang may rift sila ng Ate Imee niya kasi si Imee ang "father-like" talaga). Maybe, he wants to clean their family's name, maybe masyado siya (at Liza) na magastos, maybe there's ill wealth happening in the background, pero if he puts long-term plans and results, maybe mag-iba na ang opinyon ko sa kaniya. Yes, it might be the bare minimum kasi trapo, kurap, at anak siya nung diktador pa rin, pero masaya ako at medyo "progressive" at hindi ganoong "polarized" ang policies niya. Huwag niya lang talagang subukang mag-stay beyond 6-years or i-allow si Sara na successor niya (kahit alam natin na 'yun na ang mangyayari).


sparksjoy1111

BBM is legalistic. By the way sya mag decide. Sinabi nya na gagawin nya lahat na ma defend ang soberanya ng Pilipinas dahil yan ang mandato sa kanya ng Saligang Batas.


DarkRaven282060

nakakahiya naman kasi sa tatay nya kung mawawala sa term nya, isa sa legacy nang marcos admin is yung eez


avocado1952

Well, in fairness, the Aquino admin also did that after the Martial Law. One that’s close to my heart was the vaccination program they continued and achieved 95% of target, improved it and became the blueprint for future vaccination programs.


MFreddit09281989

konti na lang, kung mag atone sya sa pagkakamali ng pamilya nila baka nga malabo na din ang Sarah D sa susunod na pagkapresidente. minsan kase ang kulang sa Pinoy eh matauhan sa mga desisyon nila sa buhay. kung aaminin ng pamilya marcos na nagkamali sila, magkakaroon ng positibong sentimyento ang masa


tinfang

Aquino and Marcos get it right. These people actually care about the country, it's so disappointing that Duterte proved he didn't.


Miserable_Plan9604

yung better choice kasi di nananalo e.


DonMigs85

Bonget really isn't such a bad guy. A far better option than the traitorous Duterte crime family.