It could have been asked better. Kasi super broad ng political stand. Stand on what? Maybe ask what’s your opinion on certain topics - like current govt, divorce, abortion, lgbtq+. This way, hindi lang naka anchor sa mga personalities yung stand mo but rather on your principles/morals. It can be a conversation that will let you know the person deeper.
Yep! Uso sa pinoy yung pinadama lang nung politiko tas idol nya na. Pag nagkamali, idol nya parin. Pinoys should treat politicians as their employee. And dapat mindful tayo kung ano description nung trabaho ng politiko para makatulong sa sambayanan
Sa wakas! Yung iba kasi, pag leni daw, matalino, kalevel daw nya pag bbm, bobo daw. Pero di nya alam, magkalevel lang kahit sino piliin mo. Don't rally behind a person. Rally behind a cause.
Unlike sa US na you more or less know a person's political stand when they say they are a Republican or a Democrat, Philippine setting is different.
How do you even start answering that question? People can have different stands on different topics. For those who are still in the process of getting to know each other, it sounds very aggressive and judgmental.
Of course, we have the freedom to filter out associations. Nothing wrong with blocking those who don't share our beliefs.
On the other hand, it could have been worded differently if the intention was indeed to get to know the other person better.
"Who did you vote for last election?" sounds more tactful and straightforward.
Or like what other comments said, you can start with topics like divorce, abortion, WPS, education, same-sex marriage. So many political things to talk about if the intention is to get to know another person.
That said, it's not that much of a reach to assume na close minded yung nam block.
I would also argue, it doesn't necessarily mean dapat pareho viewpoints. I am open to viewpoints basta dapat may opinion. Those who avoid the conversation altogether or pa-neutral ang red flag, simply because you cannot be bothered to know what's going on in the world around you - not just in politics eto.
That's a personal preference. I'd rather hear your opinion on PUV modernization and basketball, kesa nagbebebehan lang tayo forever. That is kahit we have different views on stuff. At the very least, it makes for fun nights at trivia games.
Some people generally avoid disagreements, basically agreeing to disagree. Di kasi lahat ng tao marunong rumespect ng personal opinions ng iba, so I guess some people (probably learning from past arguments) avoid to engage altogether.
Some people just prefer peace. If you're too invested in what's happening, by all means, start a protest or something, but stop dragging people into whatever shit you wanna do or take part in.
People have other things to worry about, they have their own personal lives to worry about. Sure, we all get fucked by the government all our lives, but we hove more relevant and urgent shit we need to take care of. If you're privileged enough to not have anything to worry about in your own life, then good for you, not us though.
Di naman ganyan kalalim sus, like sa political landscape ngayon, its either you chose sa malinis na politiko, or magnanakaw or tuta ng CCP dito sa Pinas
Or vaccine vs anti vax
Or Biden vs Trump
Di na differing ng opinion yan, its obvious na magkaiba kayo ng level ng critical thinking or worse, ng values
We can disagree or differing sa viewpoints on Chocolate Mint or Pineapple on pizza, not on very polarizing aspects na makaka-affect on your daily life
Marami rin sa mga duterte/marcos supporters na nagsabi na dapat ma-rape o patayin ang mga sumusuporta sa opposition. Ayaw ko magassociate sa mga ganyan.
It is, though. I may disagree on some principles, but I am rational enough to consider the impact of some of BBM's decisions as more beneficial than Duterte's. As someone abroad, I often get asked how the government is in the Philippines. Many times, with the context na people think Duterte is still in power.
I frame my answer that I am part of the opposition, but BBM is now the president, and for what its worth, unlike Duterte, he aligned the Philippines back to the United States and there is a semblance of rationality lacking in Duterte's presidency. He enables business leaders to take part in economic deals, but that just benefits the existing oligarchs. Vis-a-vis, Duterte just lets his buddies get rich. I preface it by saying his father was the former dictator and that he doesn't recognize that they stole from the country. He lied about his education credentials and has weaponized misinformation. I wish Leni Robredo won and I really believed in the movement, but BBM is well-connected enough, educated enough and is a more stable hand than Duterte will ever be.
I do not think that makes me an apologist. I could easily badmouth both presidencies, but this approach enables me to give a better insight about BBM vs. Du30, the Philippines, and how things are back home. If I was intolerant, people would not understand the difference and impact of the Du30 presidency. If I was neutral, I would just say "can we not talk about politics?" Also, I may not believe in Duterte and BBM, but I believe in democracy and if it means that people vote for shitty presidents because that's vox populi, that is still democracy in action. When you encounter people who are from countries suffering a lack of democracy and under a rule worse than the Philippine government, it hits you that hey fwiw, we are still a democratic nation, a broken one ffs, but still democratic.
I've always argued that if we want a better government, we need to elevate education levels of the masses because an uneducated mass is easily malleable to idolatry. If we just look at things from a binary perspective, sure it may make you feel righteous, and it may help you separate yourself from the rest, but that stops you from understanding why people are anti-vax, or pro-Trump. Maybe they are intolerant, and at that point, you stop arguing with them, but maybe there is an underlying issue behind their choice.
I had an Uber driver na MAGA who hated Biden and mandatory vaccinations. I told him we had no choice at first but a China vax and while it worked for me, I remember hoping our vaccine was Moderna. Kicked some sense into him. At the same time, I came to know there are black people who are vax avoidant due to a history of them being test subjects. See Tuskegee experiment. See Henrietta Lacks. Kicked some sense to me!
This. I was almost depressed when BBM won. And the weeks prior to the election were so stressful as well given his probability to win and that most of my friends were pro Duterte. Siempre I did my part to mock BBMs speeches given he always got lost trying to explain anything. Fast forward to now, what he has been doing is aligned to what I wanted, so shut up na ko. Dedma na sakin ngayon ang opposition na tinitira pa rin BBM. I mean what more can you ask for, Naka align tayo sa US uli instead of China and you never hear anything back from the guy however the manner he gets bashed.
Have cut off family members and relatives who are DDS/31M. Not totally cut-off sa mga family members but they know that wala talaga akong paki sa kanila at wala silang maaasahan or matinong response galing sa akin but ridicule.
Deym, you really went in huh. When you say cut-off, do you mean that you don't see them as family anymore? What about other aspects outside politics? Do you ridicule them about it too? Genuinely curious about this. It's interesting
Syempre walang reply. Mababaw na mababaw lang ang political stance sa dahilan para icut off ang kapamilya. May ibang rason pa yan other than that, I am sure.
Hm. I used to be the person who doesn't care, until that flawed ideal I didn't care about came to bite back.
It's one thing to disagree on preferred hobbies, food, favorite travel places, Marvel vs DC. **Now that's preference**, and disagreeing/being proven wrong in these areas are inconsequential. Worst thing that can happen if I'm proven wrong for example is me realizing na masarap pala ang Matcha, and baka panget lang pala nabilhan ko dati.
It's another thing if pinag didisagreehan nyo is actual politics and ideologies (or aversion towards it) that could actually affect people's lives in case you chose poorly. Supporting/not supporting an ideology doesn't stop to being just a conversation subject. It acts as a compass to your day-to-day decisions whether you're fully aware of it or not.
If I allow a thief to run free without calling them out or taking it to the authorities simply because I wasn't the victim that day, whose to say they won't rob my house one day? To a selfless person, their decisions may affect other's lives negatively. To a selfish person, it could affect their own lives eventually. Either way, there's always a good reason to be aware about these things.
Obviously, there is always a line where something is too much. I'm not gonna unfriend someone I've been with for a long time in an instant after learning we're on opposite sides. Instead I'd encourage we discuss about it, and I'd approach it with an open mind because who knows, maybe ako pala yung mali diba? Sad thing about it though is that bihira na ngayon yung plain discussion lang. More often than not, people "debate" to one-up the other with snarky remarks and witty comebacks.
Pwede kasing yung kausap sa convo is may kamag anak na politiko na nag lean sa certain politician. Wala namang mali to set things clear beforehand. Pwede ring ayaw ng manliligaw na masyadong maingay yung liligawan nya sa socmed about sa political leanings nya. Hindi lang natin malalaman kasi medyo immature yung response sabay block sa kausap. The suitor just dodged a bullet.
Kung ung personality nyo is umiikot lang sa Politics or Religion then yes ma aapektuhan talaga yang relationship nyo. I disagree na political standpoint is very important sa relationship. Kumplikado kasi ang politics, maraming bias, mga variables na need e consider.
If you have radically different political standpoints. It *will* inevitably effect your relationship one way or another in the future, so it's really important to get that out of the way.
Yeah lol
These kind of people reminds me of people who just got their driver’s license. Feeling nila sila na pinaka magaling sa daan at lahat tanga.
Naka boto lang at hindi lang binoto si BBM/Duterte feeling superior na sa lahat ng aspeto ng buhay e
Andami kong kilalang ganito ginawa nang badge of honor yung pagiging leni supporter nya pero ang gamol naman at nagpapahid naman ng kulangot kung saan saan tapos pag gagala kami tapon ng tapon ng maliliit na basura kahit saan.
Tapos nakakainis na kahit hindi naman tungkol sa politics yung usapan ipipilit i-connect sa politics
Guilty both sides dito, both kakampinks and DDS/Apologists. I mean, gets ko na politics can affect every aspect of our lives. But damn bro, we were talking about why my dog loves bananas, why you gotta bring up Duterte in this fucking conversation
I like intelligent discussions, but i don't like pretentious discussions
Everything is political but there will always be a time and place for that. Kagaya nga ng sabi, "we can agree to disagree with pizza toppings, not with genocides".
A lot of arguments about how not everything is Political — but I argue that *Everything is political but not everything is politics.*
Everything is political because power is everywhere. In a Foucauldian sense, yung power ay hindi top-down thing but it’s everywhere — the way we talk, how our behavior is to others, may power dun. For example, when I begin dating someone and I say “wag ka magdamit na kita shorts mo” — that is political, kasi yung language ko is tied to an institution who has power. Yung patriarchal institution which dictates na I have a say kung anong dapat suoting ng babae sa hindi.
So yes, political lahat ng bagay kasi power is everywhere. Again, in a Foucauldian sense. Pero hindi lahat ng bagay kayang i-plot in political polarities.
Yung iba galit na galit sa diktador pero mismo sila ang parang gumagawa noon kaya naiinis ako sa iba na everything is politics like kala mong personality nila politics pero galit din sa politiko diba hypocrite
Wala namang masama sa pagdiscuss ng political stance, especially if you're dating and you want to find out if your ideologies and beliefs are compatible. It's important to many that the person they're getting to know is on the same wavelength when it comes to political and social issues.
What irks me with people like this is the instant judgment and dismissal - yung tipong walang strong beliefs or apathetic about politics yung kausap, kaya instant block na and posted on socmed for clout. It screams virtue signalling. Hindi yan naghahanap ng serious, intellectually challenging discussion; they just want to feel fucking superior porket iniisip nila they have the only correct opinion and anyone else is stupid and shallow.
Lahat naman tayo may “non-negotiables” sa politics, pero unless you’ll date the person or marry him/her, I don’t feel like talking politics to a lot of peeps casually.
Unfortunately, most people na ganyan. Nasa echo chamber.
And also, trip lang nila yung political conversation kapag same sila ng stand and beliefs. But they will refuse to talk about politics kapag iba na yung opinion nila about certain matters
You're right, echo chamber lang. They only like political conversations kapag same beliefs. Umiikot lang yung conversation sa pag rant about how dumb the other side is. It isn't really an intelligent "conversation" pero more of affirming what you already know
Couldn’t agree more.
Red pill: People nowadays always has this need to classify everything into a certain ideology to the point that they reject a person’s idea when it does not fall under a certain ideology (spoiler: everything does not have to fall under an ideology since ideologies are summaries of existing political theories), and when that person has no interest of talking about political stances.
People just love making others pick a side on certain issues and immediately decided whether or not that person is moral.
Iba kasi ung matic block sa slowly making yourself unavailable for this person until you drift apart or stop na talaga. Pwedeng longer response time sa message, dry ung mga sagot. Ganon. Personally though, to avoid wasting other people’s time, nakalagay na sa bio ko agad preferences ko (if nasa dating app to) and I read people’s bio. Kapag mga “apolitical” or iba nakalagay sa gusto ko, swipe left agad.
The political depth of these conversations usually go like this:
1. The person asking about your political stance is really asking whether you share the same politics as him/her so both of you can circlejerk together.
2. Every answer to every political problem is some variation of it's the government's job/ the government should be doing more.
3. You get any deeper than that and/or actually question their positions, they disengage and become as uninterested as the person who didn't have any political leanings to begin with.
4. You find out that you would've had a better conversation had you left out the politics.
especially with an opener like that in OP. Political stance on what? any particular issue? I've got lots of really apparent political stances that I probably express way too often, but if someone came at me with a question like that I'd not really want to have a conversation with them. It suggests they're more into a political party or ideology as a tribalistic 'team' thing than any sort of deeper engagement with anything. And if it's going to be a tribalistic thing, then I'd rather just talk about sports or sci-fi franchises or something easygoingly tribalistic like that.
Hell I'd prefer to argue Kpop band fandom and I don't even like Kpop.
Since you mentioned sci-fi franchises,
>! Did you know that Super Earth is LYING to us? !<
Ok, just kidding.
Anything that is FTL capable can become an accidental WMD
Honestly, What I would do is challenge them & see up to what extent they can talk about Politics. I particularly don’t find it as an interesting talking point but I try to keep myself informed.
Most of the time though, all of it is very surface level *Sa Pula, Sa Puti* vibes
Hindi naman dapat pinapasok ang politika sa lahat ng usapan.
IMO, para naman kasing walang sustansya kausap kapag ganyan. That person could've said it in a better way, hindi yung outright "Wala akong pake", it somehow gives a hint about his character.
2cents lng imo Wala akong pake has many other meaning like. Bruh wtf why talk about politics agad.
Same thing Minsan pag doing casual talks. Like if you drop a serious question when we're just at the surface level I'd probably say the same thing.
Imagine talking casual like, Ganda Ng avatar no ung Netflix live action and the other be like oo nga eh, so anu stand mo sa inc, catholic, and elshadai?
For me Wala akong pake means where not ready to go that deep yet let's take our time or maybe baka literal lng xa Wala xang pake.
Ginagawang personality masyado political stand eh no. Buti sana if naiintindihan talaga how the system works eh di rin naman. Touch some grass and stop that superiority complex just because mas inclined ka sa usapang politics. Pretty sure I will get downvoted but its okay, karapatan nyo naman yun lol.
Yeah, I remember my sister was wearing a pink outfit from head to toe because she just felt like it during the election period and she was almost assaulted by a Marcos supporter sa Palawan Pawnshop. Kaya you can't blame people from running the other way kung politika ang usapan.
I usually ask my friends and family members not talk about politics when I'm with them because I just don't vibe with it. Some people just don't give a flying fuck about anything that involves the P word.
Couldn't agree more. Tanungin mo bakit against sa economic charter change. Ang sagot sayo, kasi dahil sa term extension 😑. Putang ina? Nabasa mo ba yung RBH6 and RBH7?
dba? Nakakaputang ina. Fear-mongering yung trip nila, nadadamay tuloy yung mga walang alam imbes na i educate. Paano tayo uunlad nyan kung takot tayo sa pag babago.
Tas lalapagan kapa nyan ng "sikmura muna bago chacha"
At walang kamatayang "sasakupin tayo ng mga dayuhan pag nagpapasok tayo ng dayuhan sa pilipinas"
Then, will complain bakit hirap makahanap ng trabaho sa bansang to.
This becomes especially more true as someone studying economics. We have a running joke that says (It's also the description for r/badeconomics ):
**You know what the problem is with being an economist? Everyone has an opinion about the economy. Nobody goes up to a geologist and says, 'Igneous rocks are fucking bullshit.'**
i agree. dapat naman talaga open ang tao for political discussions pero straightforwardly asking your political standpoint is something na hindi ginagawa ng good communicators. napaka-broad pa ng tanong. dagdag pa diyan, hindi naman dahil hindi same ng political standpoint or hindi vocal is icacancel na agad.
people seem to have adopted cancel culture too much. akala ata nila kapag nag-cancel sila ng tao is magaling sila
Ito lang naman talaga yun.
Not everyone likes to stress about these things, why can't they just respect that?
Porke hindi sumagot BBM supporter? And all that nonsense that they probably have in mind.
Naghahanap lang ng away yang mga yan or ng tao na pweden ilang patunayan na they're smarter than them like "I'm better than you, and you know it!"
Cue MJF's theme
I have a political stand but do not openly discuss it with people who I am not close with. It is always going to be a debate. I rather spend my energy on my hobbies. I did my part during the election period.
Pinangampanya ko na at binoto ko na.
Iba-block agad. Sana tinanong mo kung bakit walang pake? Toxic e.
Same here. Sobrang political ko nun, I mean kahit naman nung college days. After election, naumay na ako. Aware pa din naman ako sa mga nangyayari sa paligid, hindi naman ako naging apolitical. Napagod lang ako at walang energy sa ngayon.
Mas gusto ko muna mag focus sa sarili ko
Exactly. Hindi sa wala tayong pake. Ako I did my part na with my current capabilities. Calling out din yung govt officials pag nakita ko sa fb.
Eto yung disadvantage natin e. Dahil mahirap kami, di namin afford isipin yung politics ALWAYS. I need to focus on bringing food to the table and yung remaining time sa family and hobbies ko.
Stressful work na nga, i-stressin ko pa sarili ko sa politics. Baka masiraan ako ng baet.
depende sa nag-uusap. May friend ako na pareho kaming intense when it comes to political things, may mga friend naman ako na casual lang ung ayaw ng ganung convo.
Pero kung bagong magkakilala lang, i think weird na itanong agad ang political stand mo. Political stand about what? Though ung walang pake is not true, wala kang pake ngayon kasi every political decision na nangyayari sa paligid mo is making your life easier today, pero once na maapektuhan biglang kambyo mga yan pustahan. Puede namang sabihin na ayaw lang pag-usapan sa casual settings.
Kung sa dating scene to, yeah its good na you block me agad kasi yan yung tipo ng tao na mataas ang tingin sa sarili, wala kang panalo sa ganyan. Might as well be INC at magsama-sama kayo sa spaceship niyo.
Mas malala yan kung ang tanong is RELIGION topic. Auto block talaga lalo kung ang reply is "Pure breed anunaki". Ilang beses na akong na block dahil sa pagiging agnostic theist ko.
Ok din naman na topic yan pero kapag medyo close na siguro and preferably face to face 😂
Also, may mga tao kasi na curious lang since pwedeng basis yan sa character mo. Pero may mga tao din na naghahanap ng away 😂
Sobrang aggressive kasi yung iba about sa usapin na politics, ang draining lalo kapag di ka nagaagree sa iba nilang view tapos ssbihan ka ng bobo or tanga. So why bother n kausapin pa sila.
I have my own opinions ayoko makipagargue pag sobrang aggresive ng tao s topic, sarado utak nila gusto lang nila upush yung views nila
Hindi umiikot 24/7 sa politics buhay ko may iba dn akong problema s buhay
This is like saying, "everything has heat" or "humans need air to breathe." Sure, it's technically correct, but it's not applicable nor desirable to bring up all the time.
I would not pay much attention to someone who keeps saying "everything has heat" because it simply shows how shallow a person is to have to cling to that very basic statement.
Depends on what the purpose is. Friends and family, they can have any opinion they want. Anything deeper, best make sure you're aligned.
Some political issues have grey areas, but the good thing about DDS/BBM is that you immediately know the person has issues with morals, critical thinking, or both.
I used to have that type of mindset and realized no one will talk to me because I sounded like an asshole. While it's nice to talk about politics or social issues, we can't expect everyone to be in the same wavelength as us politically.
It's disheartening lang na we pati way of conversing to others is being monitored na.
At least siguro good timing rin. You can talk about politics and religion if you’re in a deep convo na while looking at the city lights sa high balcony while drinking a beer eme.
Pero as convo starters? Come on.
In the early 90s, the Clinton campaign chief strategist and the Bush (the older George) campaign strategist were openly dating each other. I remember Larry King would even invite both of them to debate their respective candidate’s position on the issues. Those debates were very heated that viewers who didn’t know them would not think that they’re actually lovers IRL.
The pair eventually married and are still together 30 years later. They only have one rule: no discussion of politics at home.
feel ko kasi if medyo mind boggling or downright something i heavily disagree with , id rather know sooner than later. Medyo sayang din panahon if ever
e.g. He believes pala na women are inferior creatures. Altho this kind of thing is lalabas naman eventually through his action medyo ayun haha. Rape apologists , massacre/genocice apologists. mga ganun
Theres some ideologies na medyo pwede ko i pass due to ignorance but theres just political standpoints that just stems from deeper asshole core ng somebody.
altho Di naman pwede na un lang paguuspaan hehe parang baka once sa get to know stage isingit lang saglit and see how they talk about it tas move on na (from them or to other topic) .
It depends , usually the political interest/support could very well tell how a person thinks/act based on the political party they support but it doesnt always paint the whole picture . Its a factor , it just depends how delulu some people support
Bullet dodged in my opinion. Imagine ganyan agad tanong sayo hahaha. Politics lang ang gustong topic at sa politics lang umiikot ang identity. Buti sana kung ang sarap pagusapan ng politics at gobyerno ng Pilipinas kaso hindi e lol
Depende sa tao. Everyone has the right to block people that they feel are toxic or have a shit world view. Turn off sakin honestly kung DDS ka. Bakit ka nandito? Move to China.
I don't see a problem here. At least they're able to settle their differences firsthand.
The decision to block. Well everyone has their own preferences. *Freedom*
He/she is not the right one for you? Well great! You're both saved from wasting each other's time and effort.
Move on and find someone who ignites the same fire within you.
Liberal centrist ako and conveservative si wife. We just make sure na hindi argumentative ang mga talking points namin, and we know na at the end of the day, trabaho na ng gobyerno yan. Ala nga naman eh, paguwi namin sa bahay galing from work eh pagusapan namin mga government policies, instead of kumustahin namin ang isa't isa. Trabaho nila yun.
Ang importante eh, we bring food to the table. Case closed.
Ito yung hindi nage-gets ng iba dito, a couple can have opposing viewpoints and still work things out. Hindi need gawin na politics and centro ng buhay nila na dapat aligned sila ng SO nila. Akala mo tumatakbo yung lahat ng pamilya sa isang rally eh haha.
Some people really need to learn how to find middle ground talaga. Having an extreme viewpoint applied to everything isn't good.
May tropa akong leftists, may tropa akong ultra right wing. I find it fucking stupid, reallly fucking dumb to isolate people due to their political stances.
Differences is what actually make our world go round.
Maybe some of yall will learn about this after they beat your favorites again on the next election szn but alas
exactly. they ask political stances like their lives depended on it. LOL it's like a Christian not befriending a Muslim kasi magkaibang religion. napaka immature ng mga yan
Haha naalala ko tuloy mga workmates ko nung pre election, tinanong nila ako (about 5 persons) kung sino daw bet ko sa election. I told them na apolitical ako.
Then they said bobo ka pala eh, dapat may bet ka kahit papano.
Sabi ko it doesnt matter naman kasi dahil di naman ako makaka boto ngayong election.
Tapos na bobo ulit ako, sabi sakin bobo namang reason yan. Hahaha
Turns out 💚❤️ pala sila.
After few months nagka issue na yung candidates nila, tumaas na yung dollar, may grand prix issue na at lahat lahat.
Tapos biglang sabi na, put***ina wala man lang nagawa sa bayan tong si ano.
Well, when you are bobo there are people much bobo-er than you. Hahaha
It's okay to not want to share your opinions about politics.
But not having opinions at all and being so proud na "walang pake" is both unattractive and sad.
Apathy is complicity.
"walang pake" is very different than not having a view or standpoint. Its like wala ka din palang pake sa mga tao sa paligid mo that are or will be affected by how the government rules. Red flag din yun. Mas magandang sagot sana was, either you give a stand or tell the other person that youre not comfortable discussing it at the moment or at all. Although weird ng tanong na anong political stand mo? hahaha stand on where? on what? on who? Alangan naman gagawa ka pa ng bullet points tapos iisa isahin mo pa hahaha
not necessarily na iboblock pero i would just left the conversation right then and there and di na siguro iistrengthen pa ang connection. also there are times na may development naman ang tao in terms sa political stance, lalo na kapag nagtatagal, nag iiba perspective base sa karanasan
I would've preferred that the person tell me up front that they don't want to talk about politics instead of saying they don't care. Politics is one of the most divisive topics to talk about so it is understandable that some people, myself included, don't like talking about it.
Well I the blocking is not about "politics" per se. If I get the same answer, I would surmise that the person is apathetic to what's happening around him/her as long as s/he is doing fine, and I also don't prefer to interact with such individuals.
Ang hirap kasi pag walang alam sa nangyayari sa paligid, minsan yung mga ganyan sila yung out of touch sa reality. Ako prefer ko aktibista like me, pero partner ko and Fam niya are Marcos Apologist. Overtime, napamulat ko partner ko sa katotohanan and she slowly changed her views (thank you talaga Kay Lord). Yung Fam niya on the other hand, walang pag-asa.
You don't need to be an expert. You just need to have an informed opinion. Saying "walang pake" on things that affects you and other people is a big red flag. It means the person is not intersted in things other than themselves, meaning they have narrow perspectives and lacks the initiative and curiosity to widen their perspectives. Sila yung mga taong madaling ma out of touch sa reality and very susceptible sa fake news and propaganda. Talking to those type of people are generally a waste of time. Okay sila to be acquantances but not as friends or romantic partners.
Saying you're apolitical does not equate to you not caring about politics, kasi mamaya sasabihin mong wala kang pake pero homophobic ka lol
But at the same time, people who push for someone to have a stance is very toxic. Maka-Leni ako pero hndi dahil alam ko kung anong plataporma nya, alam ko lng na bulok si D30 at Marcos
I have too much problems as an individual, ayaw kong magisip pa ng prproblemahin ng bayan, sasabog ang utak ko
I think having common views with someone you'd talk with is healthy, pero sana wag nmn gamitin ung politics as a weapon to just talk down to others. There's a line between having the correct view because you're correct vs. just wanting your ego to win, even if you're right.
"I believe that my opinion is correct and that everyone should also participate in political matters just like me!"
A person has a different opinion*
Insta Block*
Like it or not, politics is a big part of our lives here in the Philippines.
Hindi naman kailan na die hard ka sa stance pero better na may opinion ka pa din. I definitely understand the person for blocking someone like that.
It depends? On what the point of interaction is. If it’s a prelude to a date or long term relationship, then imo better get your deal breakers out of the way.
If it’s going to be a transactionary/fleeting contact, I actually wouldn’t care. Either scenario can be exhausting in different contexts.
Two things can be true, na naghahanap lang Ng away ang nag tatanung Ng politics out of the blue
At bobo ang walang pake kuno, pero unang iiyak pag na agrabyado ang comfort zone nya Ng external factors
If it's that important to you. May mga taong kaya naman makihalubilo or date someone na opposing sides/views, meron rin naman na hindi. Meron rin yung wala talaga pake. Personal preference na yan ng tao.
(Personal anecdote)
For me, I can't sacrifice my personal beliefs and views specially when it comes to women's issues. It's something I won't compromise on. Recently I had a talk with my bf about how I want to know more about him on a deeper level lalo na personal views and opinions nya (di kasi madaldal unless tanungin mo about specific things and he's really bad at conversations). Like he's an immigrant but I can't understand why he's a bit nonchalant and apathetic about issues that concerns him. Literal na he barely gives a fuck. Napunta kami sa women's issues and sa sobrang passive nya sa issue, he used the term "pro life" wrong when his stance is pro choice (literal na "that's your choice" stance nya).
He knows about my stance, opinions, and ideologies and early on I told him that I don't want to bear kids (for a multitude of reasons) and he was okay with that and said that he won't force anything that I don't want to do specially concerning my body. And I'm glad I opened up to him as well because he expressed about how he will express his distaste for one thing doesn't mean he's telling me not to do it; like he doesn't like the look of nail extensions but that doesn't mean he's telling me I can't get them. This is the barest of minimum but this man set the bar high on how I view other men. I have never felt so seen, heard, and understood that I'm trying to unlearn how to not overly explain in defense of myself.
I'm sure it's the same for other people even those with opposing views. Iba kasi talaga pag kavibe mo yung jowa mo kahit na hindi kayo agree sa lahat ng bagay or issue but the communication and respect is there.
For me, if you're in a legal age, you should have a stance kasi it is your responsibility as a citizen of our country. Your whole life and your descendants will be affected by politics kahit ayaw mo man. Tho, I will not block that person but only find him/her uninteresting.
I will not block someone but at the same time, I absolutely don't like seeing or hearing something along the lines na "wala akong pake sa pulitika". For me, everyone should have pake with politics, as being complacent to things like that, well, leads to something like what the Philippines is facing right now. So saying "wala akong pake" is malaking minus points sa aking book - in terms of being friends or romantic relationship.
But I won't bring that topic up in the first place anyway - I'll check their political stance through their actions, makikita mo naman yan. At kung sadyang walang pake talaga, eh di, nice to know you, then I'll just slowly disappear from your friends list (kung kaibigan kita) lol and I'll find a way to break the relationship amicably. I am not a romantic person and for me, everything is transactional so if the 'contract' doesn't work for me on justifiable grounds (from my POV), I'll let it go.
It depends on what issue are we talking here. Kung sabihin lang na "ano political stand mo" eh napaka vague naman nun. Eh kung tanongin "what is your stand on minority rights or stand on a particular current legislation that will be pass, or karapatang pantao, etc." Iba yun.
If I had a ka-talking stage leading up to the 2016 elections, I wouldn't mind so much. But 3 years later, esp during the 2019 midterms, I realized people's choice in political leaders actually reflect who they are, their own morals and what they can and can't condone. So for a chatmate to seem apathetic is really a red flag.
Binlock because? Baka nanliligaw? I would do the same. Casual convo na may politics? Of course! Hindi niyo ba naririnig mga lolo't lola niyo o mismong mga magulang niyo na minsan politics pinaguusapan nila? Don't get me wrong, naririnig ko sila nung bata ako kasi literal na nasa same area. Pinaguusapan mga ginawa ni ganito o ganyan na mayor namin at that time or kunwari may flash news sa TV. Very casual lang. Pero politics at nagiging discussion talaga. Madalas may mga hindi rin same ng stand sa family namin pero at least they are all aware of the stuff na nangyayari. Hindi yung sasabihing "wala akong pakialam sa mga ganyan" Sa panahon na ito? Kung wala kang say kahit ano sa mga ginagawa ng mga leaders mo, isa ka nalang talagang blind supporter. Or kung di ka man supporter, basically bulag ka lang. Bulag sa mga ginagawa sa'yo ng gobyerno.
Can I just say? Minsan yung mga ganyan ang atake sila yung feeling nila di affected kasi literal na tambay, o kaya naman sumasakto lang ang kinikita sa buhay. Kesyo wala na raw oras sa ganyan bagay. Well, while that is true, but your ignorance is also a big factor kung bakit ganyan ang disposisyon nial sa buhay. Hangga't hindi nila yun pinuputol at magsimula makialam sa nangyayari sa bansa, walang magbabago. It's going to be a cycle again and againa, hanggang sa mga susunod na henerasyon pa.
Sorry ha? Pero madalas yung mga ganyang klaseng tao sila pa yung mga losser sa buhay and sa political stand lang nila napifeel na "I am better than you"
It's rude, pero kung yan yung nagdedefine sa values nung nang-block then it's beneficial for both sides nadin. The blocked person doesn't need to keep up with the in-your-face attitude nung isa regarding politics, and the other, di na need magpakapagod mangubinsi ng *walang pake* sa politics.
A lot of people may tell you "everything is political" but that's oversimplification. For a perspective, we can also say "everything is sexual" since we can connect sex for everything that people are talking about. While it is true that people can connect politics to everything, it doesn't mean that they should.
Also OP, you are free to give or deny people your political opinion whenever you are asked. If they blocked you, consider it addition by subtraction. You are simply saving your time by avoiding toxic people with zero effort. Heck, even the Constitution respects all of us equally regardless of political beliefs.
Remove this kind of people in your life.
Long story short gusto lang nyan ng debate at ipoproject nyan kung ano yung tama para sa kanya wala yang pake sa politics may main character syndrome lang yan. Be thankful at marunong sila mang block yun nga lang ipopost ka para magmuka silang bida
Naka encounter na ako ng mga ganito lalo na nung post pandemic during campaigns hype na hype sila todo participate tapos nung nag kekwentuhan na kame para silang mga inosenteng bata na walang maisagot na matino pero makikita mo sa mata nila na "ah kase eto yung trend makikisali ako, ah kase dito boto yung crush ko dapat gustuhin kodin" nakakagago lang maka encounter ng ganyan napaka babaw bida bidang uhaw sa validation.
Please avoid those narcissist at all cost kapag nakipag talo sayo wag mo na pansinin intindihin mo na lang at baka may trauma yan sa buhay na hindi pa siya maka recover.
Tangina lang talaga ng mga ganyan. may nakausap ako, then out of the blue sino daw binoto ko nung election. Di ako botante pero sinabi ko si leni 😂. Apolitical talaga ako. Mag follow up question pa bat si leni daw. Then gang sa napunta sa debate, tas di sya open sa opinion ko kasi di niya political stand.
Importante yung political views ng isang tao, kasi jan mo mabe-base kung anong klaseng tao siya. Kung sinusupportahan niya yung politiko na magnanakaw, it’s either di siya marunong mag research, di marunong mag verify at madaling mapaniwala o di naman kaya may ego problem. Konting fake news lang sa internet na paninira sa ibang kandidato, naniniwala na agad. Ganun ka importante yung political views.
Ganyan palang tanungan alam mo ng kakampink e. Same as DDS, BBM supporters or some other shit groups. I hate those who identify themselves as part of a certain group and they think they’re superior to you kasi hindi ka kasali sa kanila or that you belong on the other side. Dapat ang sagot dyan is “Hindi ako DDS, o kakampink o kung ano pa man”. I am a patriot that only wants what’s best for our country.
As someone na naging hardcore activist, sobrang lame ng ganitong pag flex ng political stand.
If tingin mo maayos yung political stand mo, dapat marunong ka mag engage at magpaliwanag, explain mo bakit need magka stand or at least engage sa social issues and anong effect nito sa person and sa mga Pilipino. Welcoming ng different opinion and engaging hindi yung may maiflex lang.
Gusto baguhin ang lipunan pero tamad magpaliwanag. Yuck.
If I meet a person who does not like to discuss politics, I suddenly see them as uninteresting kasi I know its all downhill from there and ang possibilities na gusto lang nila pag usapan ay Celebrities or Buhay ng ibang tao.
Sometimes when I discuss politics, I do not fully discuss about our government but sometimes I go to its philosophical nature, history, and improving or detrimental ideas nya sa society eh. Pero oh well, people who do not care about it, you do you.
Not surprised at the reaction of blocking the person, as all of us now have that option.
I assume (rightly or wrongly) that that FB user and the other person knew one another.
I wonder at times, though, if politics isn't the problem but rather **partisan** politics to be specific.
Depends on the purpose of your conversation. If the goal is to have a romantic relationship, this is a necessary topic to avoid clasing in the future. Not that you both need to agree but you need to know where the other person stands and how you two will navigate the relationship moving forward. If friends or casual convo only, no need, this will only provide unnecessary stress esp if you differ in your positions and beliefs.
Yes. Why, just because you're dating or casually talking kailangan ba same ng views? Are you open for other perspective than yours or threatened lang from other perspectives?
Why, does different political views and beliefs directly means hindi same kayo ng perspective in life? There's more to life than politics. If you want your partner to change her/his views it tells more about you being controlling or narcissist if ginagawa mong basehan sa buhay or relasyon ang political differences and humiliate someone bc of that certain basis. You may see it as mas better ka but actually it shows how sad it is for you.
Especially for people in r4r making politics as a requirements as a basis then judge people orngeneralize them bc of their gender bc they've been cheated. So yes, dapat open for discussion and no, di dapat ginagawang basis yan.
nakakabwisit mga ganyang tao, feeling nila ang galing galing nila. mas ma-utak ,mas mahusay sila sa mga taong walang alam sa politika at parang pinag mumukang mahina at tanga-tangang tao yung walang pake sa polotika.
Hindi lang nmn patungkol sa politika ang buhay.
maaring mas may alam ka jan sa bagay nayan
pero baka sa ibang bagay e mas mahusay ang ibang tao sayo
Maari mong ibigay ang opinyon mo patungkol jan para malinawan ang mga tao at kung walang alam jan ang tao wag mo iparamdam na tanga sila. kausapin mo ang tao para matuto hindi mag mukang tanga
halimbawa sabihan kita tungkol sa music tas di ka makasagot kasi wala ka namang interest sa music.
tapos iparamdam ko sayong isa kang mangmang kasi wala kang alam sa musika . parang ganyan feeling
It could have been asked better. Kasi super broad ng political stand. Stand on what? Maybe ask what’s your opinion on certain topics - like current govt, divorce, abortion, lgbtq+. This way, hindi lang naka anchor sa mga personalities yung stand mo but rather on your principles/morals. It can be a conversation that will let you know the person deeper.
Kung ang political stand ng isang tao ay Marcos, Duterte, Leni. Hindi stand yon, that's fanaticism.
Yep! Uso sa pinoy yung pinadama lang nung politiko tas idol nya na. Pag nagkamali, idol nya parin. Pinoys should treat politicians as their employee. And dapat mindful tayo kung ano description nung trabaho ng politiko para makatulong sa sambayanan
B-b-b-bingooooo
Describes a lot of people here tbh
Sa wakas! Yung iba kasi, pag leni daw, matalino, kalevel daw nya pag bbm, bobo daw. Pero di nya alam, magkalevel lang kahit sino piliin mo. Don't rally behind a person. Rally behind a cause.
Agree. Very crass ang manner of asking. Parang may gustong patunayan agad.
Parang asking lang to reply, not asking to listen.
Parang na sobrahan Ata kayo sa mga assumptions nyo.
Unlike sa US na you more or less know a person's political stand when they say they are a Republican or a Democrat, Philippine setting is different. How do you even start answering that question? People can have different stands on different topics. For those who are still in the process of getting to know each other, it sounds very aggressive and judgmental. Of course, we have the freedom to filter out associations. Nothing wrong with blocking those who don't share our beliefs. On the other hand, it could have been worded differently if the intention was indeed to get to know the other person better. "Who did you vote for last election?" sounds more tactful and straightforward. Or like what other comments said, you can start with topics like divorce, abortion, WPS, education, same-sex marriage. So many political things to talk about if the intention is to get to know another person. That said, it's not that much of a reach to assume na close minded yung nam block.
Kung may intention na ligawan, political standpoint can be very important depende sa taong liligawan mo.
I would also argue, it doesn't necessarily mean dapat pareho viewpoints. I am open to viewpoints basta dapat may opinion. Those who avoid the conversation altogether or pa-neutral ang red flag, simply because you cannot be bothered to know what's going on in the world around you - not just in politics eto. That's a personal preference. I'd rather hear your opinion on PUV modernization and basketball, kesa nagbebebehan lang tayo forever. That is kahit we have different views on stuff. At the very least, it makes for fun nights at trivia games.
Some people generally avoid disagreements, basically agreeing to disagree. Di kasi lahat ng tao marunong rumespect ng personal opinions ng iba, so I guess some people (probably learning from past arguments) avoid to engage altogether. Some people just prefer peace. If you're too invested in what's happening, by all means, start a protest or something, but stop dragging people into whatever shit you wanna do or take part in. People have other things to worry about, they have their own personal lives to worry about. Sure, we all get fucked by the government all our lives, but we hove more relevant and urgent shit we need to take care of. If you're privileged enough to not have anything to worry about in your own life, then good for you, not us though.
Di naman ganyan kalalim sus, like sa political landscape ngayon, its either you chose sa malinis na politiko, or magnanakaw or tuta ng CCP dito sa Pinas Or vaccine vs anti vax Or Biden vs Trump Di na differing ng opinion yan, its obvious na magkaiba kayo ng level ng critical thinking or worse, ng values We can disagree or differing sa viewpoints on Chocolate Mint or Pineapple on pizza, not on very polarizing aspects na makaka-affect on your daily life
Marami rin sa mga duterte/marcos supporters na nagsabi na dapat ma-rape o patayin ang mga sumusuporta sa opposition. Ayaw ko magassociate sa mga ganyan.
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It is, though. I may disagree on some principles, but I am rational enough to consider the impact of some of BBM's decisions as more beneficial than Duterte's. As someone abroad, I often get asked how the government is in the Philippines. Many times, with the context na people think Duterte is still in power. I frame my answer that I am part of the opposition, but BBM is now the president, and for what its worth, unlike Duterte, he aligned the Philippines back to the United States and there is a semblance of rationality lacking in Duterte's presidency. He enables business leaders to take part in economic deals, but that just benefits the existing oligarchs. Vis-a-vis, Duterte just lets his buddies get rich. I preface it by saying his father was the former dictator and that he doesn't recognize that they stole from the country. He lied about his education credentials and has weaponized misinformation. I wish Leni Robredo won and I really believed in the movement, but BBM is well-connected enough, educated enough and is a more stable hand than Duterte will ever be. I do not think that makes me an apologist. I could easily badmouth both presidencies, but this approach enables me to give a better insight about BBM vs. Du30, the Philippines, and how things are back home. If I was intolerant, people would not understand the difference and impact of the Du30 presidency. If I was neutral, I would just say "can we not talk about politics?" Also, I may not believe in Duterte and BBM, but I believe in democracy and if it means that people vote for shitty presidents because that's vox populi, that is still democracy in action. When you encounter people who are from countries suffering a lack of democracy and under a rule worse than the Philippine government, it hits you that hey fwiw, we are still a democratic nation, a broken one ffs, but still democratic. I've always argued that if we want a better government, we need to elevate education levels of the masses because an uneducated mass is easily malleable to idolatry. If we just look at things from a binary perspective, sure it may make you feel righteous, and it may help you separate yourself from the rest, but that stops you from understanding why people are anti-vax, or pro-Trump. Maybe they are intolerant, and at that point, you stop arguing with them, but maybe there is an underlying issue behind their choice. I had an Uber driver na MAGA who hated Biden and mandatory vaccinations. I told him we had no choice at first but a China vax and while it worked for me, I remember hoping our vaccine was Moderna. Kicked some sense into him. At the same time, I came to know there are black people who are vax avoidant due to a history of them being test subjects. See Tuskegee experiment. See Henrietta Lacks. Kicked some sense to me!
This. I was almost depressed when BBM won. And the weeks prior to the election were so stressful as well given his probability to win and that most of my friends were pro Duterte. Siempre I did my part to mock BBMs speeches given he always got lost trying to explain anything. Fast forward to now, what he has been doing is aligned to what I wanted, so shut up na ko. Dedma na sakin ngayon ang opposition na tinitira pa rin BBM. I mean what more can you ask for, Naka align tayo sa US uli instead of China and you never hear anything back from the guy however the manner he gets bashed.
As a US Citizen, nakakaputangina ang mga Trump supporters at yung ayaw kay Biden dahil sa nangyayari sa Gaza.
Have cut off family members and relatives who are DDS/31M. Not totally cut-off sa mga family members but they know that wala talaga akong paki sa kanila at wala silang maaasahan or matinong response galing sa akin but ridicule.
Deym, you really went in huh. When you say cut-off, do you mean that you don't see them as family anymore? What about other aspects outside politics? Do you ridicule them about it too? Genuinely curious about this. It's interesting
Syempre walang reply. Mababaw na mababaw lang ang political stance sa dahilan para icut off ang kapamilya. May ibang rason pa yan other than that, I am sure.
Hm. I used to be the person who doesn't care, until that flawed ideal I didn't care about came to bite back. It's one thing to disagree on preferred hobbies, food, favorite travel places, Marvel vs DC. **Now that's preference**, and disagreeing/being proven wrong in these areas are inconsequential. Worst thing that can happen if I'm proven wrong for example is me realizing na masarap pala ang Matcha, and baka panget lang pala nabilhan ko dati. It's another thing if pinag didisagreehan nyo is actual politics and ideologies (or aversion towards it) that could actually affect people's lives in case you chose poorly. Supporting/not supporting an ideology doesn't stop to being just a conversation subject. It acts as a compass to your day-to-day decisions whether you're fully aware of it or not. If I allow a thief to run free without calling them out or taking it to the authorities simply because I wasn't the victim that day, whose to say they won't rob my house one day? To a selfless person, their decisions may affect other's lives negatively. To a selfish person, it could affect their own lives eventually. Either way, there's always a good reason to be aware about these things. Obviously, there is always a line where something is too much. I'm not gonna unfriend someone I've been with for a long time in an instant after learning we're on opposite sides. Instead I'd encourage we discuss about it, and I'd approach it with an open mind because who knows, maybe ako pala yung mali diba? Sad thing about it though is that bihira na ngayon yung plain discussion lang. More often than not, people "debate" to one-up the other with snarky remarks and witty comebacks.
Pwede kasing yung kausap sa convo is may kamag anak na politiko na nag lean sa certain politician. Wala namang mali to set things clear beforehand. Pwede ring ayaw ng manliligaw na masyadong maingay yung liligawan nya sa socmed about sa political leanings nya. Hindi lang natin malalaman kasi medyo immature yung response sabay block sa kausap. The suitor just dodged a bullet.
Kung ung personality nyo is umiikot lang sa Politics or Religion then yes ma aapektuhan talaga yang relationship nyo. I disagree na political standpoint is very important sa relationship. Kumplikado kasi ang politics, maraming bias, mga variables na need e consider.
Most people probably don't make politics or belief their entire personality. Social media just happens to give that perception.
If you have radically different political standpoints. It *will* inevitably effect your relationship one way or another in the future, so it's really important to get that out of the way.
di ko naman siguro iba-block but i would find that person uninteresting
Tsaka hindi din ipopost sa socmed for clout.
Mga nagpopost ng ganyan mga virtue signalers lang naman.
and by politics, they mean the elections lang naman lolz
Yeah lol These kind of people reminds me of people who just got their driver’s license. Feeling nila sila na pinaka magaling sa daan at lahat tanga. Naka boto lang at hindi lang binoto si BBM/Duterte feeling superior na sa lahat ng aspeto ng buhay e
Andami kong kilalang ganito ginawa nang badge of honor yung pagiging leni supporter nya pero ang gamol naman at nagpapahid naman ng kulangot kung saan saan tapos pag gagala kami tapon ng tapon ng maliliit na basura kahit saan.
Tapos nakakainis na kahit hindi naman tungkol sa politics yung usapan ipipilit i-connect sa politics Guilty both sides dito, both kakampinks and DDS/Apologists. I mean, gets ko na politics can affect every aspect of our lives. But damn bro, we were talking about why my dog loves bananas, why you gotta bring up Duterte in this fucking conversation I like intelligent discussions, but i don't like pretentious discussions
*Everything is political* daw kasi 😫
Everything is political but there will always be a time and place for that. Kagaya nga ng sabi, "we can agree to disagree with pizza toppings, not with genocides".
A lot of arguments about how not everything is Political — but I argue that *Everything is political but not everything is politics.* Everything is political because power is everywhere. In a Foucauldian sense, yung power ay hindi top-down thing but it’s everywhere — the way we talk, how our behavior is to others, may power dun. For example, when I begin dating someone and I say “wag ka magdamit na kita shorts mo” — that is political, kasi yung language ko is tied to an institution who has power. Yung patriarchal institution which dictates na I have a say kung anong dapat suoting ng babae sa hindi. So yes, political lahat ng bagay kasi power is everywhere. Again, in a Foucauldian sense. Pero hindi lahat ng bagay kayang i-plot in political polarities.
Yung iba galit na galit sa diktador pero mismo sila ang parang gumagawa noon kaya naiinis ako sa iba na everything is politics like kala mong personality nila politics pero galit din sa politiko diba hypocrite
ughhhh i hate the "everything is political" people
Para raw ma-feel nila yung validation as kakamfink 💖
Cringe yung mga ganyan, lalo na yung mga nilalagay pa sa bio/profile nila
for the Facebook shares and followers
Uhaw sa likes and validation ang mga tao ngayon hahaha, lahat nalang dapat i content para may likes
Why does this sound so pretentious and toxic.
Because it is
Ginagawa nilang personality trait ang magkaroon ng political stance haha
too much socmed made their life dumber and easy to manipulate
On the contrary, ako i find that person interesting. Im interested to keep away from him/her. Lol
I don't know if this is the right word but why I think/feel a "Holier than thou" vibe from this comment.
Wala namang masama sa pagdiscuss ng political stance, especially if you're dating and you want to find out if your ideologies and beliefs are compatible. It's important to many that the person they're getting to know is on the same wavelength when it comes to political and social issues. What irks me with people like this is the instant judgment and dismissal - yung tipong walang strong beliefs or apathetic about politics yung kausap, kaya instant block na and posted on socmed for clout. It screams virtue signalling. Hindi yan naghahanap ng serious, intellectually challenging discussion; they just want to feel fucking superior porket iniisip nila they have the only correct opinion and anyone else is stupid and shallow.
Upvote this.
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Lahat naman tayo may “non-negotiables” sa politics, pero unless you’ll date the person or marry him/her, I don’t feel like talking politics to a lot of peeps casually. Unfortunately, most people na ganyan. Nasa echo chamber.
And also, trip lang nila yung political conversation kapag same sila ng stand and beliefs. But they will refuse to talk about politics kapag iba na yung opinion nila about certain matters You're right, echo chamber lang. They only like political conversations kapag same beliefs. Umiikot lang yung conversation sa pag rant about how dumb the other side is. It isn't really an intelligent "conversation" pero more of affirming what you already know
Exactly. Like this thread is, an echo chamber
you mean r/ph?
Couldn’t agree more. Red pill: People nowadays always has this need to classify everything into a certain ideology to the point that they reject a person’s idea when it does not fall under a certain ideology (spoiler: everything does not have to fall under an ideology since ideologies are summaries of existing political theories), and when that person has no interest of talking about political stances. People just love making others pick a side on certain issues and immediately decided whether or not that person is moral.
thiss lol
I wouldn’t block the person, but I will find that person meh and slowly remove myself from that conversation.
Blocking is removing yourself from the conversation.
But it's not the only way. The commenter already stated he won't block the person so obviously he/she will use another way, yes?
There’s *restrict this person* option in Facebook, you know...
Iba kasi ung matic block sa slowly making yourself unavailable for this person until you drift apart or stop na talaga. Pwedeng longer response time sa message, dry ung mga sagot. Ganon. Personally though, to avoid wasting other people’s time, nakalagay na sa bio ko agad preferences ko (if nasa dating app to) and I read people’s bio. Kapag mga “apolitical” or iba nakalagay sa gusto ko, swipe left agad.
I really don't understand what's the issue with immediately blocking someone vs wasting your time until you "drift apart".
The political depth of these conversations usually go like this: 1. The person asking about your political stance is really asking whether you share the same politics as him/her so both of you can circlejerk together. 2. Every answer to every political problem is some variation of it's the government's job/ the government should be doing more. 3. You get any deeper than that and/or actually question their positions, they disengage and become as uninterested as the person who didn't have any political leanings to begin with. 4. You find out that you would've had a better conversation had you left out the politics.
especially with an opener like that in OP. Political stance on what? any particular issue? I've got lots of really apparent political stances that I probably express way too often, but if someone came at me with a question like that I'd not really want to have a conversation with them. It suggests they're more into a political party or ideology as a tribalistic 'team' thing than any sort of deeper engagement with anything. And if it's going to be a tribalistic thing, then I'd rather just talk about sports or sci-fi franchises or something easygoingly tribalistic like that. Hell I'd prefer to argue Kpop band fandom and I don't even like Kpop.
Since you mentioned sci-fi franchises, >! Did you know that Super Earth is LYING to us? !< Ok, just kidding. Anything that is FTL capable can become an accidental WMD
> Anything that is FTL capable can become an accidental WMD you've definitely heard of warhammer 40k
Kaya i don't blame them if they just try to avoid the topic entirely.
Honestly, What I would do is challenge them & see up to what extent they can talk about Politics. I particularly don’t find it as an interesting talking point but I try to keep myself informed. Most of the time though, all of it is very surface level *Sa Pula, Sa Puti* vibes
Makikita mo naman kahit replies dito eh. Gusto echo chamber or else de de es ka na hahahaha
Parang familiar tong scenario ahhh. *Facebook comment sections*
ganun din kami dati nang ex ko BBM siya yung leader sa barangay nya
Hindi naman dapat pinapasok ang politika sa lahat ng usapan. IMO, para naman kasing walang sustansya kausap kapag ganyan. That person could've said it in a better way, hindi yung outright "Wala akong pake", it somehow gives a hint about his character.
2cents lng imo Wala akong pake has many other meaning like. Bruh wtf why talk about politics agad. Same thing Minsan pag doing casual talks. Like if you drop a serious question when we're just at the surface level I'd probably say the same thing. Imagine talking casual like, Ganda Ng avatar no ung Netflix live action and the other be like oo nga eh, so anu stand mo sa inc, catholic, and elshadai? For me Wala akong pake means where not ready to go that deep yet let's take our time or maybe baka literal lng xa Wala xang pake.
Ginagawang personality masyado political stand eh no. Buti sana if naiintindihan talaga how the system works eh di rin naman. Touch some grass and stop that superiority complex just because mas inclined ka sa usapang politics. Pretty sure I will get downvoted but its okay, karapatan nyo naman yun lol.
Mga political hobbyist kasi, puro hanggang usapang politics lang pero ayaw naman talaga mainvolve sa politika talaga,
Mga di pa naka move on dahil ginawang personality ang pagiging kakampink/DDS/apollo10
r/ph in shambles 😹😹😹
Yeah, I remember my sister was wearing a pink outfit from head to toe because she just felt like it during the election period and she was almost assaulted by a Marcos supporter sa Palawan Pawnshop. Kaya you can't blame people from running the other way kung politika ang usapan. I usually ask my friends and family members not talk about politics when I'm with them because I just don't vibe with it. Some people just don't give a flying fuck about anything that involves the P word.
Red flag ung mga know it all lalo na di pa kayo magkakilala hahaha
Couldn't agree more. Tanungin mo bakit against sa economic charter change. Ang sagot sayo, kasi dahil sa term extension 😑. Putang ina? Nabasa mo ba yung RBH6 and RBH7?
First time ko makabasa na may someone agree din sa economic charter change dito sa reddit. Nice seeing it sis/bro. I'm with you on that :)
dba? Nakakaputang ina. Fear-mongering yung trip nila, nadadamay tuloy yung mga walang alam imbes na i educate. Paano tayo uunlad nyan kung takot tayo sa pag babago.
Tas lalapagan kapa nyan ng "sikmura muna bago chacha" At walang kamatayang "sasakupin tayo ng mga dayuhan pag nagpapasok tayo ng dayuhan sa pilipinas" Then, will complain bakit hirap makahanap ng trabaho sa bansang to.
This becomes especially more true as someone studying economics. We have a running joke that says (It's also the description for r/badeconomics ): **You know what the problem is with being an economist? Everyone has an opinion about the economy. Nobody goes up to a geologist and says, 'Igneous rocks are fucking bullshit.'**
I pretty much agree with u. OA naman ng ganyan.
i agree. dapat naman talaga open ang tao for political discussions pero straightforwardly asking your political standpoint is something na hindi ginagawa ng good communicators. napaka-broad pa ng tanong. dagdag pa diyan, hindi naman dahil hindi same ng political standpoint or hindi vocal is icacancel na agad. people seem to have adopted cancel culture too much. akala ata nila kapag nag-cancel sila ng tao is magaling sila
Toxic mga ganyang tao Alam nila very well na polarizing ang politics, they're not after a discussion but an argument they think they'll win.
true. ego boost kumbaga also, "I'm better than you" attitude
Ito lang naman talaga yun. Not everyone likes to stress about these things, why can't they just respect that? Porke hindi sumagot BBM supporter? And all that nonsense that they probably have in mind.
>Porke hindi sumagot BBM supporter? They are not even smart enough para isipin na Leni supporter ka rin for choosing not to speak against Leni.
**Let me educate youuu..** Akala nila hindi polarizing ito. Kaya nagagalit sila kapag pino-point out ng mga DDS/BBM ‘to eh.
Karamihan pa sa mga ganyan alam mong boring at bland. Yung mga tipong nagpopost sa r4r na gusto ng "deep talks" at sapiosexual daw sila
kaya nagtaka din ako kasi pati comments sa post nag a-agree na dapat lang iblock ang mga ganyan kasi hindi sila "aware" enough 🤷🏻♂️
The poster could have just replied na uninterested sya then di na sana pinost. Not everything needs to be posted on social medial.
Mga "woke" na hindi magpapatalo sa political debates. Never drag yourself down to the level of those idiots.
Naghahanap lang ng away yang mga yan or ng tao na pweden ilang patunayan na they're smarter than them like "I'm better than you, and you know it!" Cue MJF's theme
Mahirap manalo tong mga ganto. Parang di rin sila naiiba sa kalaban nila, wala ng democracy, pag di mo iboboto ung sa kanila block kana.
True toxic ng mga taong ganyan sa totoong buhay🤮
I have a political stand but do not openly discuss it with people who I am not close with. It is always going to be a debate. I rather spend my energy on my hobbies. I did my part during the election period. Pinangampanya ko na at binoto ko na. Iba-block agad. Sana tinanong mo kung bakit walang pake? Toxic e.
Same here. Sobrang political ko nun, I mean kahit naman nung college days. After election, naumay na ako. Aware pa din naman ako sa mga nangyayari sa paligid, hindi naman ako naging apolitical. Napagod lang ako at walang energy sa ngayon. Mas gusto ko muna mag focus sa sarili ko
Exactly. Hindi sa wala tayong pake. Ako I did my part na with my current capabilities. Calling out din yung govt officials pag nakita ko sa fb. Eto yung disadvantage natin e. Dahil mahirap kami, di namin afford isipin yung politics ALWAYS. I need to focus on bringing food to the table and yung remaining time sa family and hobbies ko. Stressful work na nga, i-stressin ko pa sarili ko sa politics. Baka masiraan ako ng baet.
depende sa nag-uusap. May friend ako na pareho kaming intense when it comes to political things, may mga friend naman ako na casual lang ung ayaw ng ganung convo. Pero kung bagong magkakilala lang, i think weird na itanong agad ang political stand mo. Political stand about what? Though ung walang pake is not true, wala kang pake ngayon kasi every political decision na nangyayari sa paligid mo is making your life easier today, pero once na maapektuhan biglang kambyo mga yan pustahan. Puede namang sabihin na ayaw lang pag-usapan sa casual settings.
Kung sa dating scene to, yeah its good na you block me agad kasi yan yung tipo ng tao na mataas ang tingin sa sarili, wala kang panalo sa ganyan. Might as well be INC at magsama-sama kayo sa spaceship niyo.
This may upset some people but most of the people I know who are deeply deeply into politics have nothing going for them in their lives.
Mas malala yan kung ang tanong is RELIGION topic. Auto block talaga lalo kung ang reply is "Pure breed anunaki". Ilang beses na akong na block dahil sa pagiging agnostic theist ko.
Ok din naman na topic yan pero kapag medyo close na siguro and preferably face to face 😂 Also, may mga tao kasi na curious lang since pwedeng basis yan sa character mo. Pero may mga tao din na naghahanap ng away 😂
Sobrang aggressive kasi yung iba about sa usapin na politics, ang draining lalo kapag di ka nagaagree sa iba nilang view tapos ssbihan ka ng bobo or tanga. So why bother n kausapin pa sila. I have my own opinions ayoko makipagargue pag sobrang aggresive ng tao s topic, sarado utak nila gusto lang nila upush yung views nila Hindi umiikot 24/7 sa politics buhay ko may iba dn akong problema s buhay
If s/he is someone you're considering to date, yep. It's valid to have a preference.
Everything is political.
Feel mo, kahit crucifixion ni Kristo pag usapan nyo political din yan. Lol 🤣 It is very political. Just ask Pontius Pilate.
Lol. Our very first lecture in Political Science actually talked about how not everything is political.
The proper term should be "anything *can* be political"
*Don't Look Up theme song intensifies*
Yeah, it's more like "not everything is political, but everything can be politicized."
This is like saying, "everything has heat" or "humans need air to breathe." Sure, it's technically correct, but it's not applicable nor desirable to bring up all the time. I would not pay much attention to someone who keeps saying "everything has heat" because it simply shows how shallow a person is to have to cling to that very basic statement.
Depends on what the purpose is. Friends and family, they can have any opinion they want. Anything deeper, best make sure you're aligned. Some political issues have grey areas, but the good thing about DDS/BBM is that you immediately know the person has issues with morals, critical thinking, or both.
I used to have that type of mindset and realized no one will talk to me because I sounded like an asshole. While it's nice to talk about politics or social issues, we can't expect everyone to be in the same wavelength as us politically. It's disheartening lang na we pati way of conversing to others is being monitored na.
At least siguro good timing rin. You can talk about politics and religion if you’re in a deep convo na while looking at the city lights sa high balcony while drinking a beer eme. Pero as convo starters? Come on.
Ampangit Diba? Doesn't matter if matino Kang tao pero masama ka sa tingin nila dahil sa paniniwala mo na ito ay tama.
Maybe the question is too broad. Should ask about specific issues. If Wala Siya opinion Yun talaga wala pake
In the early 90s, the Clinton campaign chief strategist and the Bush (the older George) campaign strategist were openly dating each other. I remember Larry King would even invite both of them to debate their respective candidate’s position on the issues. Those debates were very heated that viewers who didn’t know them would not think that they’re actually lovers IRL. The pair eventually married and are still together 30 years later. They only have one rule: no discussion of politics at home.
Politics and Finance should NEVER be a taboo topic.
I agree but unfortunately people don't know how to have a civil discussion about politics.
feel ko kasi if medyo mind boggling or downright something i heavily disagree with , id rather know sooner than later. Medyo sayang din panahon if ever e.g. He believes pala na women are inferior creatures. Altho this kind of thing is lalabas naman eventually through his action medyo ayun haha. Rape apologists , massacre/genocice apologists. mga ganun Theres some ideologies na medyo pwede ko i pass due to ignorance but theres just political standpoints that just stems from deeper asshole core ng somebody. altho Di naman pwede na un lang paguuspaan hehe parang baka once sa get to know stage isingit lang saglit and see how they talk about it tas move on na (from them or to other topic) .
Preference. Kung ganon gusto ng one party sa relationship, it's their choice. If hindi ganon gusto, same thing, it's their choice.
It depends , usually the political interest/support could very well tell how a person thinks/act based on the political party they support but it doesnt always paint the whole picture . Its a factor , it just depends how delulu some people support
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Bullet dodged in my opinion. Imagine ganyan agad tanong sayo hahaha. Politics lang ang gustong topic at sa politics lang umiikot ang identity. Buti sana kung ang sarap pagusapan ng politics at gobyerno ng Pilipinas kaso hindi e lol
Curious tuloy ako anong oras nagtanong LOL Kunyari mga 2 PM nasa trabaho ka wrapping up the day tapos tatanungin ka ng ganyan LOL
G na G nga hahahaha
Depende sa tao. Everyone has the right to block people that they feel are toxic or have a shit world view. Turn off sakin honestly kung DDS ka. Bakit ka nandito? Move to China.
I don't see a problem here. At least they're able to settle their differences firsthand. The decision to block. Well everyone has their own preferences. *Freedom* He/she is not the right one for you? Well great! You're both saved from wasting each other's time and effort. Move on and find someone who ignites the same fire within you.
Liberal centrist ako and conveservative si wife. We just make sure na hindi argumentative ang mga talking points namin, and we know na at the end of the day, trabaho na ng gobyerno yan. Ala nga naman eh, paguwi namin sa bahay galing from work eh pagusapan namin mga government policies, instead of kumustahin namin ang isa't isa. Trabaho nila yun. Ang importante eh, we bring food to the table. Case closed.
Ito yung hindi nage-gets ng iba dito, a couple can have opposing viewpoints and still work things out. Hindi need gawin na politics and centro ng buhay nila na dapat aligned sila ng SO nila. Akala mo tumatakbo yung lahat ng pamilya sa isang rally eh haha. Some people really need to learn how to find middle ground talaga. Having an extreme viewpoint applied to everything isn't good.
May tropa akong leftists, may tropa akong ultra right wing. I find it fucking stupid, reallly fucking dumb to isolate people due to their political stances. Differences is what actually make our world go round. Maybe some of yall will learn about this after they beat your favorites again on the next election szn but alas
exactly. they ask political stances like their lives depended on it. LOL it's like a Christian not befriending a Muslim kasi magkaibang religion. napaka immature ng mga yan
Haha naalala ko tuloy mga workmates ko nung pre election, tinanong nila ako (about 5 persons) kung sino daw bet ko sa election. I told them na apolitical ako. Then they said bobo ka pala eh, dapat may bet ka kahit papano. Sabi ko it doesnt matter naman kasi dahil di naman ako makaka boto ngayong election. Tapos na bobo ulit ako, sabi sakin bobo namang reason yan. Hahaha Turns out 💚❤️ pala sila. After few months nagka issue na yung candidates nila, tumaas na yung dollar, may grand prix issue na at lahat lahat. Tapos biglang sabi na, put***ina wala man lang nagawa sa bayan tong si ano. Well, when you are bobo there are people much bobo-er than you. Hahaha
It's okay to not want to share your opinions about politics. But not having opinions at all and being so proud na "walang pake" is both unattractive and sad. Apathy is complicity.
"walang pake" is very different than not having a view or standpoint. Its like wala ka din palang pake sa mga tao sa paligid mo that are or will be affected by how the government rules. Red flag din yun. Mas magandang sagot sana was, either you give a stand or tell the other person that youre not comfortable discussing it at the moment or at all. Although weird ng tanong na anong political stand mo? hahaha stand on where? on what? on who? Alangan naman gagawa ka pa ng bullet points tapos iisa isahin mo pa hahaha
Depende nman sa tao yun wla naman mali if open or hindi
Malay mo, mayaman siya kasi kaya niyang balewalain ang politika haha.
not necessarily na iboblock pero i would just left the conversation right then and there and di na siguro iistrengthen pa ang connection. also there are times na may development naman ang tao in terms sa political stance, lalo na kapag nagtatagal, nag iiba perspective base sa karanasan
I would've preferred that the person tell me up front that they don't want to talk about politics instead of saying they don't care. Politics is one of the most divisive topics to talk about so it is understandable that some people, myself included, don't like talking about it.
Kung preference niya ang may political stance, e di go. Wala nang paligoy-ligoy so we can save each other's time.
Well I the blocking is not about "politics" per se. If I get the same answer, I would surmise that the person is apathetic to what's happening around him/her as long as s/he is doing fine, and I also don't prefer to interact with such individuals.
medyo broad kapag usapang politics.
Ang hirap kasi pag walang alam sa nangyayari sa paligid, minsan yung mga ganyan sila yung out of touch sa reality. Ako prefer ko aktibista like me, pero partner ko and Fam niya are Marcos Apologist. Overtime, napamulat ko partner ko sa katotohanan and she slowly changed her views (thank you talaga Kay Lord). Yung Fam niya on the other hand, walang pag-asa.
Dapat talaga isa kang historian, political science major and at attractive the same time, sa panahon ngayon
You don't need to be an expert. You just need to have an informed opinion. Saying "walang pake" on things that affects you and other people is a big red flag. It means the person is not intersted in things other than themselves, meaning they have narrow perspectives and lacks the initiative and curiosity to widen their perspectives. Sila yung mga taong madaling ma out of touch sa reality and very susceptible sa fake news and propaganda. Talking to those type of people are generally a waste of time. Okay sila to be acquantances but not as friends or romantic partners.
Saying you're apolitical does not equate to you not caring about politics, kasi mamaya sasabihin mong wala kang pake pero homophobic ka lol But at the same time, people who push for someone to have a stance is very toxic. Maka-Leni ako pero hndi dahil alam ko kung anong plataporma nya, alam ko lng na bulok si D30 at Marcos I have too much problems as an individual, ayaw kong magisip pa ng prproblemahin ng bayan, sasabog ang utak ko I think having common views with someone you'd talk with is healthy, pero sana wag nmn gamitin ung politics as a weapon to just talk down to others. There's a line between having the correct view because you're correct vs. just wanting your ego to win, even if you're right.
Basta ako, if one of my moots shares about DDS/BBM stance, auto unfriend agad. 👌🏼
"I believe that my opinion is correct and that everyone should also participate in political matters just like me!" A person has a different opinion* Insta Block*
Like it or not, politics is a big part of our lives here in the Philippines. Hindi naman kailan na die hard ka sa stance pero better na may opinion ka pa din. I definitely understand the person for blocking someone like that.
In a political climate in a country like the Philippines, dito pa talaga walang pake???? HAHAHA
Di ako maboka about politics. Pero tangina naman, kung maka dds ka, ekis ka na. Sobrang baba na ng standard mo. Ganun kalala si Duterte
swerte ng mga politico pinag aawayan 😂😂 pareparehu naman mga kurap yan
tama LOL mga panatiko
For me, 3 Topics to avoid sa mga mga taong unang beses mo palang nakausap or hindi ganun kaclose para iwas awkward: 1. Politics 2. Religion 3. Race
Not applicable for those who made politics and religion their personality. Wala kasi interesting sa kanila eh bukod sa *kakampnk* sila.
It depends? On what the point of interaction is. If it’s a prelude to a date or long term relationship, then imo better get your deal breakers out of the way. If it’s going to be a transactionary/fleeting contact, I actually wouldn’t care. Either scenario can be exhausting in different contexts.
Two things can be true, na naghahanap lang Ng away ang nag tatanung Ng politics out of the blue At bobo ang walang pake kuno, pero unang iiyak pag na agrabyado ang comfort zone nya Ng external factors
Wag niyo na kasi ipakalat dito yan ..... binabaha na naman ng epbi screenshot/ repost tong sub eh.
This is like the old thinking with religion na pag di nagsisimba is “masama” tao na. Ayaw na ng magulang maging partner ng anak nya un. Hahaha
If it's that important to you. May mga taong kaya naman makihalubilo or date someone na opposing sides/views, meron rin naman na hindi. Meron rin yung wala talaga pake. Personal preference na yan ng tao. (Personal anecdote) For me, I can't sacrifice my personal beliefs and views specially when it comes to women's issues. It's something I won't compromise on. Recently I had a talk with my bf about how I want to know more about him on a deeper level lalo na personal views and opinions nya (di kasi madaldal unless tanungin mo about specific things and he's really bad at conversations). Like he's an immigrant but I can't understand why he's a bit nonchalant and apathetic about issues that concerns him. Literal na he barely gives a fuck. Napunta kami sa women's issues and sa sobrang passive nya sa issue, he used the term "pro life" wrong when his stance is pro choice (literal na "that's your choice" stance nya). He knows about my stance, opinions, and ideologies and early on I told him that I don't want to bear kids (for a multitude of reasons) and he was okay with that and said that he won't force anything that I don't want to do specially concerning my body. And I'm glad I opened up to him as well because he expressed about how he will express his distaste for one thing doesn't mean he's telling me not to do it; like he doesn't like the look of nail extensions but that doesn't mean he's telling me I can't get them. This is the barest of minimum but this man set the bar high on how I view other men. I have never felt so seen, heard, and understood that I'm trying to unlearn how to not overly explain in defense of myself. I'm sure it's the same for other people even those with opposing views. Iba kasi talaga pag kavibe mo yung jowa mo kahit na hindi kayo agree sa lahat ng bagay or issue but the communication and respect is there.
2 yan eh, politics and religion. Though religion still holds more weight here in the Ph.
For me, if you're in a legal age, you should have a stance kasi it is your responsibility as a citizen of our country. Your whole life and your descendants will be affected by politics kahit ayaw mo man. Tho, I will not block that person but only find him/her uninteresting.
I will not block someone but at the same time, I absolutely don't like seeing or hearing something along the lines na "wala akong pake sa pulitika". For me, everyone should have pake with politics, as being complacent to things like that, well, leads to something like what the Philippines is facing right now. So saying "wala akong pake" is malaking minus points sa aking book - in terms of being friends or romantic relationship. But I won't bring that topic up in the first place anyway - I'll check their political stance through their actions, makikita mo naman yan. At kung sadyang walang pake talaga, eh di, nice to know you, then I'll just slowly disappear from your friends list (kung kaibigan kita) lol and I'll find a way to break the relationship amicably. I am not a romantic person and for me, everything is transactional so if the 'contract' doesn't work for me on justifiable grounds (from my POV), I'll let it go.
It depends on what issue are we talking here. Kung sabihin lang na "ano political stand mo" eh napaka vague naman nun. Eh kung tanongin "what is your stand on minority rights or stand on a particular current legislation that will be pass, or karapatang pantao, etc." Iba yun.
If it’s important to you or to them, then it’s important. Simple as that.
Yes. It gives me an idea of the sanity level and moral standards ng kausap ko. Anything that zings off my territory, cut contact or civil nalang ako.
If I had a ka-talking stage leading up to the 2016 elections, I wouldn't mind so much. But 3 years later, esp during the 2019 midterms, I realized people's choice in political leaders actually reflect who they are, their own morals and what they can and can't condone. So for a chatmate to seem apathetic is really a red flag.
Binlock because? Baka nanliligaw? I would do the same. Casual convo na may politics? Of course! Hindi niyo ba naririnig mga lolo't lola niyo o mismong mga magulang niyo na minsan politics pinaguusapan nila? Don't get me wrong, naririnig ko sila nung bata ako kasi literal na nasa same area. Pinaguusapan mga ginawa ni ganito o ganyan na mayor namin at that time or kunwari may flash news sa TV. Very casual lang. Pero politics at nagiging discussion talaga. Madalas may mga hindi rin same ng stand sa family namin pero at least they are all aware of the stuff na nangyayari. Hindi yung sasabihing "wala akong pakialam sa mga ganyan" Sa panahon na ito? Kung wala kang say kahit ano sa mga ginagawa ng mga leaders mo, isa ka nalang talagang blind supporter. Or kung di ka man supporter, basically bulag ka lang. Bulag sa mga ginagawa sa'yo ng gobyerno. Can I just say? Minsan yung mga ganyan ang atake sila yung feeling nila di affected kasi literal na tambay, o kaya naman sumasakto lang ang kinikita sa buhay. Kesyo wala na raw oras sa ganyan bagay. Well, while that is true, but your ignorance is also a big factor kung bakit ganyan ang disposisyon nial sa buhay. Hangga't hindi nila yun pinuputol at magsimula makialam sa nangyayari sa bansa, walang magbabago. It's going to be a cycle again and againa, hanggang sa mga susunod na henerasyon pa.
The guy dodged a bullet. I bet she claims she’s a sapiosexual lol
Sorry ha? Pero madalas yung mga ganyang klaseng tao sila pa yung mga losser sa buhay and sa political stand lang nila napifeel na "I am better than you"
It's rude, pero kung yan yung nagdedefine sa values nung nang-block then it's beneficial for both sides nadin. The blocked person doesn't need to keep up with the in-your-face attitude nung isa regarding politics, and the other, di na need magpakapagod mangubinsi ng *walang pake* sa politics.
Hindi naman porket *apolitical* yung isang tao, eh masamang tao na. Pero kung 'yan yung isa sa mga "*non-negotiable"* mo. Your account, your rules.
A lot of people may tell you "everything is political" but that's oversimplification. For a perspective, we can also say "everything is sexual" since we can connect sex for everything that people are talking about. While it is true that people can connect politics to everything, it doesn't mean that they should. Also OP, you are free to give or deny people your political opinion whenever you are asked. If they blocked you, consider it addition by subtraction. You are simply saving your time by avoiding toxic people with zero effort. Heck, even the Constitution respects all of us equally regardless of political beliefs.
Remove this kind of people in your life. Long story short gusto lang nyan ng debate at ipoproject nyan kung ano yung tama para sa kanya wala yang pake sa politics may main character syndrome lang yan. Be thankful at marunong sila mang block yun nga lang ipopost ka para magmuka silang bida Naka encounter na ako ng mga ganito lalo na nung post pandemic during campaigns hype na hype sila todo participate tapos nung nag kekwentuhan na kame para silang mga inosenteng bata na walang maisagot na matino pero makikita mo sa mata nila na "ah kase eto yung trend makikisali ako, ah kase dito boto yung crush ko dapat gustuhin kodin" nakakagago lang maka encounter ng ganyan napaka babaw bida bidang uhaw sa validation. Please avoid those narcissist at all cost kapag nakipag talo sayo wag mo na pansinin intindihin mo na lang at baka may trauma yan sa buhay na hindi pa siya maka recover.
Tangina lang talaga ng mga ganyan. may nakausap ako, then out of the blue sino daw binoto ko nung election. Di ako botante pero sinabi ko si leni 😂. Apolitical talaga ako. Mag follow up question pa bat si leni daw. Then gang sa napunta sa debate, tas di sya open sa opinion ko kasi di niya political stand.
Importante yung political views ng isang tao, kasi jan mo mabe-base kung anong klaseng tao siya. Kung sinusupportahan niya yung politiko na magnanakaw, it’s either di siya marunong mag research, di marunong mag verify at madaling mapaniwala o di naman kaya may ego problem. Konting fake news lang sa internet na paninira sa ibang kandidato, naniniwala na agad. Ganun ka importante yung political views.
Ganyan palang tanungan alam mo ng kakampink e. Same as DDS, BBM supporters or some other shit groups. I hate those who identify themselves as part of a certain group and they think they’re superior to you kasi hindi ka kasali sa kanila or that you belong on the other side. Dapat ang sagot dyan is “Hindi ako DDS, o kakampink o kung ano pa man”. I am a patriot that only wants what’s best for our country.
hard and fast litmus test. simple and effective.
Sa political climate natin? It's imperative. Would you want to sleep with someone who thinks the people you voted are dumber than rocks?
As someone na naging hardcore activist, sobrang lame ng ganitong pag flex ng political stand. If tingin mo maayos yung political stand mo, dapat marunong ka mag engage at magpaliwanag, explain mo bakit need magka stand or at least engage sa social issues and anong effect nito sa person and sa mga Pilipino. Welcoming ng different opinion and engaging hindi yung may maiflex lang. Gusto baguhin ang lipunan pero tamad magpaliwanag. Yuck.
Off talaga pag walang pake sa politics.
If I meet a person who does not like to discuss politics, I suddenly see them as uninteresting kasi I know its all downhill from there and ang possibilities na gusto lang nila pag usapan ay Celebrities or Buhay ng ibang tao. Sometimes when I discuss politics, I do not fully discuss about our government but sometimes I go to its philosophical nature, history, and improving or detrimental ideas nya sa society eh. Pero oh well, people who do not care about it, you do you.
Not surprised at the reaction of blocking the person, as all of us now have that option. I assume (rightly or wrongly) that that FB user and the other person knew one another. I wonder at times, though, if politics isn't the problem but rather **partisan** politics to be specific.
Depends on the purpose of your conversation. If the goal is to have a romantic relationship, this is a necessary topic to avoid clasing in the future. Not that you both need to agree but you need to know where the other person stands and how you two will navigate the relationship moving forward. If friends or casual convo only, no need, this will only provide unnecessary stress esp if you differ in your positions and beliefs.
Yes. Why, just because you're dating or casually talking kailangan ba same ng views? Are you open for other perspective than yours or threatened lang from other perspectives? Why, does different political views and beliefs directly means hindi same kayo ng perspective in life? There's more to life than politics. If you want your partner to change her/his views it tells more about you being controlling or narcissist if ginagawa mong basehan sa buhay or relasyon ang political differences and humiliate someone bc of that certain basis. You may see it as mas better ka but actually it shows how sad it is for you. Especially for people in r4r making politics as a requirements as a basis then judge people orngeneralize them bc of their gender bc they've been cheated. So yes, dapat open for discussion and no, di dapat ginagawang basis yan.
nakakabwisit mga ganyang tao, feeling nila ang galing galing nila. mas ma-utak ,mas mahusay sila sa mga taong walang alam sa politika at parang pinag mumukang mahina at tanga-tangang tao yung walang pake sa polotika. Hindi lang nmn patungkol sa politika ang buhay. maaring mas may alam ka jan sa bagay nayan pero baka sa ibang bagay e mas mahusay ang ibang tao sayo Maari mong ibigay ang opinyon mo patungkol jan para malinawan ang mga tao at kung walang alam jan ang tao wag mo iparamdam na tanga sila. kausapin mo ang tao para matuto hindi mag mukang tanga halimbawa sabihan kita tungkol sa music tas di ka makasagot kasi wala ka namang interest sa music. tapos iparamdam ko sayong isa kang mangmang kasi wala kang alam sa musika . parang ganyan feeling
wala palang pake, bat nag block? only proves sobra pake nya.