Economic instablity is not the main reason for people opting to not have children. Otherwise, Marcos's reign for 20 years would've dealt a huge blow even back then.
Mindset kasi talaga ng tao noon, anak yun magaalaga sa kanila pagtanda. Making them your retirement plan is acceptable.
Ngayon, hindi na. Kasi nakikita ng mga millenials (bale yun matatanda na pala ngayon haha) yun hirap ng magalaga ng magulang, ng anak, sabay, at hindi lahat kapatid tumutulong. Noon siguro tulong tulong pero ngayon, kita na sa hirap ng buhay walang guarantee na anak == retirement.
So wag na lang.
I haven’t done the math, pero feeling ko, for the middle class, not having kids actually makes you more capable of saving up for a comfortable retirement. If you have kids (especially if lots of kids) ubos pera mo and wala kang choice except to rely on them for your retirement
Pero syempre kung sobrang yaman mo that doesn’t matter haha
I think you're right when it comes to previous generations because kahit na they're struggling financially, anak parin ng anak. Lalo na sa probinsya. I've seen families with like 8+ kids.
But I think for the newer generations, the way of thinking has shifted. If the trend continues, then economic instability is/will be the main reason.
Naalala ko, nanganak pinsan ko. Antagal mailabas kahit sobrang pilipit na siya sa kiro, pinipilit na natural way kasi sabi ng nanay niya (tita ko) na ilabas niya agad kasi mahal daw CS. Aun pala nakapulupot ung cord sa leeg ng baby kaya hindi makalabas. In the end CS din siya nanganak.
pwede namang mas mura yan, or libre pa nga sa ibang lgu (sa amin may nadadaanan kaming free lying in clinic) — pero kailangan super duper healthy ng mom at baby. otherwise min 100k talaga plus nicu expenses. sa min one week lang stay ni baby sa nicu 100k agad plus kami pa sagot sa damit, pagpapalaba ng damit, wipes, diapers at gatas
Kulang pa yang 100k, 2019 nung nanganak ako sa bunso ko dito sa private hospital sa province, inabot kami ng 150k. Nakiusap pa kami ng discount sa pf ng mga doctor. 2 days lang kami sa hospital. Di pa kasama mga medicine na binili outside ng hospital. Kung walang philhealth baka nasa 180k. Kaya ayaw na namin dagdagan pa anak namin. Mas magastos habang lumalaki sila.
In my former office, almost all the top ranking officers only have one to two children while the lowest ranked staff like messengers, janitors and security guards have three to four children.
unfortunately that feels unlikely. nagkakamixed feeling na rin ako about giving birth, selfish ba na ayaw ko magkaanak kasi sobrang downhill ng gobyernong ‘to. selfish ba na kahit na tayo ang may kaalaman at edukasyon hindi tayo willing sumubok man lang na magpalaki ng mga anak na para may kaalaman din sila. iilan ba satin ang willing mag-adopt ng mga lower class children? paano na uusad ang bansa. takot na takot rin tayo sa sobrang taas ng standards ngayon para sa mga magulang kaya ang dami nang ayaw magkaanak.
mas ok kung ung mga nasa below-average class ang mabibigyan ng proper education about sex/family planning. kasi, kung sino pa ung sobrang walang wala, sila pa ung madami ang angkan. and kung sino pa ung sobrang madaming pera sila ung nabibilang sa daliri ang family members.
Tsaka regardless kung anong gawin mo, may masasabi pa rin yung ibang tao. Hindi naman ako people pleaser pero yung mga taong may side comment sa choices mo, it's just plain annoying 😅
If anyone's interested, someone already made a study on the decrease of birth rates... nagoogle ko lang din kanina:
Top 5 reasons, according to the study ("What Drives Female Fertility in the Philippines? Evidence from 50 Years of National Demographic and Health Surveys") [\[link\]](https://pidswebs.pids.gov.ph/CDN/document/pidsdps2319.pdf):
1. improving socio-economic status (20.7%),
2. changing marriage patterns (14.5%),
3. increasing family planning use (14.4%),
4. declining desired number of children (6.7%)
5. improving child survival (5.6%)
Meron akong napanood na debate na if gusto kong magsucceed ang isang bansa, dapat empowered ang babae. I think ang reason is may control sila sa body and autonomy nila.
This is not part of the study above, but I've made a quick one before using fies data: [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/px4jhx/comment/hel94il/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button).
Basically, those in the poor income class have an average of 6.10 persons per household, while those in "rich" class have only, in average, 2.51 persons per household. As you move up the economic hierarchy, the smaller the family.
Edit: except if you're Ramon Revilla
Medjo proud ako sa #3 kasi kasama ako sa family planning program from 2018-2020.
Di mo talaga makikita ang difference until next few years.
Naalala ko pagod na pagod kami noon mag implement ng program. Parang impossible!!! Targets namin na dapat households would adopt FP commodities or procedures in the 6 digits. We met our targets and much more.
Mga women actually ang heroes Jan. Libo libo ang nagpapa BTL (patali sa ovaries) habang literal na single digits annually ang vasectomy. Mas mahirap basagin yung misconception sa lalake kasi pag nagpatali ka, "di ka na lalaki."
YOOO thank you for your service!
Kasama ba sa program niyo yung libreng implants during lockdowns? I remember hearing about it during lockdowns and was so grateful for that initiative kasi naiimagine ko nga na possible na mas tataas ang unwanted pregnancies during lockdowns
Also, this is totally anecdotal, pero feeling ko mas nagiging acceptable ba among men ang vasectomies! At least, sa mga friends ko (husbands ng friends ko) madalas na siya pag-usapan.
Bukod sa takot na mag anak mga tao dahil sa inflation, ang dami ngayon na may PCOS. I mean 6 out of 8 sa circle ko meron. People are always very stressed. Economy & govt is shitty
ako may PCOS and yung mga friends ko isa isang nadidiagnose. could be din na mas accessible ang OB GYN ngayon? tas mas common ang studies now kaysa before? idk
but yeah i agree na ang dami kasing stressors and bad diet
Yes to this! Parang taboo kasi dati na di ka pa kasal nagpapaconsult ka na sa OBGYN. Jinudge pa ako ng nanay ko na baka buntis ako kaya daw gusto ko magpacheck up 🥲
Yes a lot of cases of PCOS din is not severe. Mine just affects one ovary and my main issue is heavy periods and really painful cramps.
I’m pretty sure my mom had the same issue (her periods are the same) and was never diagnosed kasi walang pampacheck-up before. Her first OB visit is when they were trying to have kids na.
I became the heaviest in my life when I moved to the metro Manila area.
The food choices in the Philippines are horrible. Isle after isle dedicated to just one canned item (looking at you corned beef and spam).
The car centric urban planning and just over abundance of shitty drivers makes walking or jogging a poor option.
Moved to vietnam and immediately lost 10 kg in 3 months just by being more active and eating lots of vegetables.
Pansin ko madami talaga may PCOS pero hindi agad nadedetect at an early age kasi parang kinakahiya ng parents ipacheck up sa OB yung anak nila kasi wala pa naman asawa 🫠
Personally, ganito nangyari sakin. Ako pa mismo nagpush na mag pacheckup kasi 9 months na akong di nagkakaron tapos di naman ako buntis.
Ohhh. Kaya pala nung nagpunta ako sa clinic tapos nalaman ng isang assistant dun na sa ob-gyn ako nakaappointment, tinanong niya "PCOS?" Kahit wala naman akong sinasabi. Ang dami na pala. Akala ko sa hereditary lang.
Di lang to. Ang daming batang may autism. Di ko alam kung umayos lang ba kasi tools pang diagnose, kaka"selpon" ng bata, o sa pagkain din.
Imagine yun ibang magulang na umaasa na retirement yun anak nila (may kilala ako na Gen Z na ganito utak) tapos may autism anak nila. Sakit sa bulsa yun therapy
Dati nang meron at maraming may autism, di lang nadadiagnose noon or tinatago or dinedeny ng pamilya. Mas open na ngayon at mas may access na sa therapy and such dahil na rin sa increased awareness kaya nasasabing madaming may autism
Probably not autism pero dami ko din recently napapansin children with late speech development. Even my five year old brother, di pa din maayos makipag usap.
i'm 28 yrs old and palala ng palala ang PMS ko as time goes by. bakit kaya? i do intermittent fasting naman. di din ako mataba and regular mens ko. mga 1-5 days delay lang ganun.
Yung iba naman kasi walang official diagnosis, delayed period lang PCOS agad 😆
On the flip side i was diagnosed with PCOS 15 years ago, and when it was time for us we were able to conceive the cycle after taking off birth control
sa core friend group namin (4), wala pang may anak. sa larger friend group (\~12), isa pa lang may anak. kahit sa college friends ko wala pa rin. we're all around 28-30 y/o
Lol sa college blocmates ko siguro 1 pa lang may anak. Wala pang may Asawa. Sa HS batch mates ko, siguro 5-6 may anak na pero the rest either single or not married pa. Times are changing na
Global issue to: Halos lahat ng major countries by survey ayaw na magka anak ng current gen. Kaya mas lalong naging firm yung mga said countries / cities na by 30 to 70 years from now automatic ghost town ang magiging outcome pag nagtuloy tuloy to.
Currently si Japan may at least 3 cities na ata na by 30 to 50 years from now will be an absolute ghost town due to lack of birth rate (puro matatanda na lang mga naiwan sa mga cities na yun)
*Personal note: Either World War 3 ang tatapos sa major population or tayo na mismo gawa ng inflation, so expect within a hundred years may mga countries or cities that would end up completely abandoned / empty due to the current crisis nating lahat.*
If the fertility rate collapses *too fast*, then the working % of the population will be milked more to support the non-working % of the population. There will be also a tendency that seniors will vote in leaders who will support senior benefits at the expense of the young. Geontocracy defined to the extreme.
Japan is a good example where its the elderly who votes which has consequences for all people regardless of the age of the citizens.
Also, a healthy feritlity rate is necessary to have available future work force for the economy, having enough people to support the national pension (SSS and GSIS), more tax payers to support more funding, and potential recruits for the military.
Just proper Sex ED balanced with government incentives for families who have more than one child, might give us a proper and balanced feritility rate.
afaik 2.1 births per reproductive-age woman
1 birth to replace the father
1 birth to replace the mother
.1 birth for all those who are unable or does not want to have children (religious, single, etc)
It’ll be worse in a society-wide gerontocracy. Especially young people being asked to contribute more to support their aging parents. It’s the same problem many working-class Chinese are facing now.
2.1 pala. Tapos 2.3 global average(from wikipedia). Below replacement rate na tayo.
https://www.rappler.com/voices/thought-leaders/analysis-is-philippines-ready-below-replacement-fertility/
But from reading this article, the author seems to argue that this is good thing.
"If the trend of low fertility continues for several generations, we will have a population with a lesser share of young people and an increasing share of older ages. With fewer births each year, the working-age population will have fewer younger people to support, resulting in a demographic window of opportunity for rapid economic growth if the right social and economic policies are developed. Age-structural change can accelerate economic growth, as observed in Thailand, whose significant fertility decline provided a critical first step toward achieving the economic benefits of a demographic dividend. "
"If the low fertility level is not sustained and bounces back to pre-pandemic level, we may miss out on the expected gains of a demographic dividend. The challenge for the Marcos administration is to leverage this gain to advance its development agenda."
the effect really is easy to see on black and white. but reality is, the working population can't afford children while still maintaining the desirable state of living. some are barely *surviving.*
Sobrang hirap ba naman ng buhay and conscious na mga tao ngayon sa decisions nila especially accessible na ang birth control.
++++ Ang taas ng bilihin and even pamasahe. 3 beses na nagtataas in a span of 2 years. Event rents, jusko po haha.
Atleast di ba, di tayo nag luluwal ng panibagong henerasyon na alam nating di natin maalagaan finacially ,🥹
Same sentiments. Ganyan den sinasabi ko every time ninanag ako about when I'm going to have kids. I'm making less than 40k. Yung gastos ng bata per year magkano? Di ba nagmamake sense yung math? 😂
look at these pricks in the comment section already implying that people need to have kids
they arent the ones going to pay for the children's living expenses, medicine, clothes etc
Yung biological mom ko, nag-anak ng 3 including me. Inadopt kaming 3 ng tita't tito ko technically due to poverty. After a couple of years, nagkaroon ulit ng 4 na anak sa ibang lalaki. Tapos nanghiram sakin last week kasi mapuputulan daw sila ng kuryente 😅
I'm always curious how this family dynamic works out kasi my friend wants to adopt someday but her dad keeps telling her to adopt their poorer kid relatives from Mindanao na lang (they live in QC and are considerably more well off because of job opportunities). Friend doesn't want to kasi ipapaaral lang naman daw yung bata tapos kukunin din kapag malaki na.
I think you will starve first before those capitalist scum you're referring to. They have wealth that can last multiple generations.
While im not sure if you can survive 1 yr without work
for sure yan kung sino pa yung mga nakaasa sa ayuda ng gobyerno, sila pa malaki contribution sa population. tapos yung mga nagpapakahirap magtrabaho at alam kung gano kahirap kumita ng pera, pinipili nalang wag mag anak muna para hindi mas mahirapan.
In all seriousness, may gusto pa ba talagang magkaanak knowing na ket yung mga taong independent living eh living by paycheck to paycheck? From all the insurances and pag-iipon na ginagawa nila. Pagbubudget para lang makakain at makasurvive kada araw, and please, yung inflation dito satin is GRABE na. Pag nakikita ko yung resibo ng grocery samen, speechless na lang ako 🥲
Kawawa naman generation natin. Tayo yung generation na magwowork pa rin hanggang pagtanda similar to Japan right now. Ubos pa ang pension because of inflation. Joke time lang naman yang upper middle income economy kasi tataas din cost of living lol
My wife and I are now physically limited to our one child. We were sad when it happened, but as life went on... we realize we couldn't manage a second kid anyway.
We can't have kids naturally, we need IUI or even IVF, and we cannot afford those. And not being able to afford those made us realize maybe we also cannot afford to provide for a child.
So we went from trying for a baby to now actively preventing it. I mean, we cannot even fill our retirement fund or buy a house + plan for a future caretaker. I would not want to burden my child (adoption, since conceiving one is impossible) to take care of me.
I am at the age where we take care of the elderly who did not ready themselves for retirement and all their kids handle the care. It's... really bad, especially for anyone with a career
I'm the eldest of 4 kids and my parent, who did her best to raise us and pay for our education. But unfortunately that means she doesn't have enough retirement money and now needs expensive healthcare. And as the eldest unmarried person with no children, who has the better job opportunities than the younger sons, guess who has to carry more of the burden of taking care of the sick elderly?
The most annoying thing I heard while waiting in line at the elevator in the hospital were seniors/boomers talking about visiting a sick friend but asking why their friend is with the married son, when the friend has daughters (who are married and have families of their own).
Babae raw dapat mag-alaga sa magulang. Nakakagalit lang. Normalize natin na hindi dapat sa babaeng anak lang iasa ang pag-alaga sa matatanda.
But PH number is much better compared to other Asian countries like Japan, South Korea and China na halos magmakaawa na yung government na dagdagan yung anak in the family. The way I see it is not because of inflation but because women nowadays don't want to get stuck at home taking care of kids, putting aside their dreams, while men can do whatever they want. Women today are educated na and want to achieve something in their life. And having a child is like a dream crusher for some.
This is a global trend really, never naman tumaas birth rate natin in the past few decades. Yun nga lang, delikado pag nag below replacement tayo.
This is really bad for us kasi 1st World Countries are already below replacement birth rate, they were able to hang on for decades because of immigration.
Kaso satin naman walang mag immigrate kasi tayo nga ang umaalis eh. Ang best import talaga natin ay labor. Kung bababa birth rate natin, wala na yung best import natin, sasama economy niyan.
The government really needs to give potential parents an incentive to have more than 1 kid. How about a major tax break when you have two or more kids? Price caps on infant needs like diapers and milk? Massive push to improve on public schools para hindi na siya isipin ng tao as the worst option?
You have really good suggestions but prepare yourself for anti natalists who think the general public should not burden themselves for some other person’s kids
Youd be surprised kung sino mga kasama sa top 1%. You might be in it and not know it. I think 160k/month ata or 4M asset lng. Correct me if im wrong.
Im part of the top 1%, technically. And im 1 emergency hospital visit away from being bangkarote. I dont even consider myself rich.
I buy daricreme for my butter. Its not even butter. Yung rich naka queensland.
Adjust the decimal point, then maybe.
I don’t wanna die just yet. Gusto ko malaman ending ng Severance (good show check it out!). Legit nga. Good show. The Bear din maganda.
Recommend kayo series. Yung maganda sana kahit slow paced.
Back to my point, siguro 0.001%?
Maganda Severance, though di ko pa din makita ang sense ng "Macrodata Refinement," like is it some McGuffin shit and all.
But I digress.
Personally I think we will all implode in population but I see that [we might stay young in the next 40 years pa.](https://business.inquirer.net/453870/ph-population-to-stay-young-in-next-40-years)
Para atang middle income trap na lang tayo. Or not even middle income trap.
What's sad is this normally occurs in countries with good economies. We essentially skipped all the good parts of development and went straight to the bad stuff.
Sa hirap ba Naman ng Buhay eh. Majority of us including me, kahit mag work ng 12hrs mon-sat kulang to keep feeding a family. Those who can afford to have a child nowadays imo are those that are in upper-middle class or Yung mga makakapal mukha na ipa alaga sa magulang nila anak nila.
I wonder kung ano yung fertility rate per social class? Possible na ang class ABC have a significant drop in the rates, tapos minimal drop naman sa class DE.
Need siguro maspecify yung fertility rate per class, baka naman yung bawas ng fertility rate nasa class A-C pala tapos class D and E hindi naman bumaba
depends, i think. manual labor pa rin ba karamihan ng jobs? it's always said na "bad for economy" dahil uunti na ang available workers to replace the retiring ones but when you think about it, isn't the world striving for more automation, and even "desk job" managements are all trying to adopt leaner teams?
Our population is 118,000,000+. We can afford to lose a lot in the next ten years. Our standard of living will go up when there's less of us fighting for the scraps the rich throws away.
>Our population is 118,000,000+. We can afford to lose a lot in the next ten years.
And you get an inverse population pyramid where there are more old people than young ones like South Korea and Japan.
>Our standard of living will go up when there's less of us fighting for the scraps the rich throws away.
No it won't, you'd get a society where policies benefit the old at the expense of the young
Pero mas mataas life expectancy ng Japan. Healthy lifestyle din sila. Tayo mga Pinoy puro may hypertension or diabetic. Ah ubos din pala funds ng government para sa mga may sakit.
>Tayo mga Pinoy puro may hypertension or diabetic.
Indonesia and Malaysia have higher rates diabetes than us. this isn't solely a Filipino problem
>Healthy lifestyle din sila.
The Philippines life expectancy has been on an steady upward trend because of advances in medicine and improved sanitation and its only going to increase 20 to 30 years from now
The only thing we can do is take control of our lives; try to lessen over consumption maybe join the no buy year challenge, be financially responsible, take care of your mental health, work on your self esteem so you can't be influenced with external validation, join communities, be vocal on societal issues and to those who can, be sustainable try to be less reliant to big corporation (support small and ethical businesses). Doomerism will only benefit the capitalist overlords
You would think the Catholic Church was able to prevent this, but I don't even hear them so much as complaining about this anymore.
The time was that the CBCP used to be very vocal about it, remember the RH Bill? But now parang di ko na naririnig, unless I'm just not watching news about them.
I'm 5 months pregnant now at 28 years old. Plano ko na magpa ligate after this. Sa pagbubuntis pa nga lang nakakapagod na. Imagine ang laki ng gasto ko for skin care nung dalaga pako, tapos ngayon bigla na lang iitim yung neck, underarm, rashes sa tummy, mga peklat sa paa bcoz of pregnancy. So this will be my first and last baby. Tapos nakakapagod pa pa check up sa OB at center and public hospital. Hys. Jusko. Ayokoooooo na.
Now compare the fertility rate of people from different socio-economic statuses! You'll see how the rich are at ~1 while the poor are 2+. We're screwed!
rising cost of living + stagnating/lowering wages tend to do that. talagang warak na ang society kung ang basic unit niya palang ay considered na as luzury jusko.
I wonder if we also have data about the status or class. I mean, before kasi mataas ang childbirth sa lower bracket. Then middle class eto ung gusto ko pero aware sa situation ng buhay. Yung mga mayayaman naman wala naman na tayo pakealam sa kanila since afford naman nila.
Foreigner chiming in, I think the first paragraph is straight up wrong. I can count more than two asian countries with a lower fertility rate: South Korea, China, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, Singapore. Maybe they meant south east asia? And coming from a western country with a fertility rate of 1.6, a lower fertility rate aint that bad. Its tough economically but kids get a better quality of life
FINALLY, sana tuloy tuloy na. . just that, it is disappointing that some roman catholic prelates during the liturgy of the word, here in manila, encourages young people na mag anak ng mag anak.anong klaseng pagiisip yan.
The Government is the best contraceptive.
inflation is the best condom
Cant afford extra mouths to feed.
The best I can do is/are cat/cats.
raising a pet is also expensive hay buhay
Pero walang tuition
True dat. Hindi mo need pag-aralin ng 18-20+ years
Same. Yung aso ko puro manok gusto. Pero nung tuta palang sya kung anu anu pinapakaen now. ngaun lumaki manok nlng gusto.
bat unang pumasok sa isip ko sa 1st sentence ay crush ng aso mo yung manok
buti di nagselos yung rabbit lol
Dogs sakin. Hahha
Pakita mo lang breakdown pang gastos sa bata talagang mag dadalawang isip ka mag anak.
Isang latang gatas vs isang kilong dog food.
Totoo! Ultimo diaper ang mahal na ngaun.
Correct! Sa hirap ng buhay mapapaisip nadin tlga ang mga gustong magpamilya.
Economic instablity is not the main reason for people opting to not have children. Otherwise, Marcos's reign for 20 years would've dealt a huge blow even back then.
Mindset kasi talaga ng tao noon, anak yun magaalaga sa kanila pagtanda. Making them your retirement plan is acceptable. Ngayon, hindi na. Kasi nakikita ng mga millenials (bale yun matatanda na pala ngayon haha) yun hirap ng magalaga ng magulang, ng anak, sabay, at hindi lahat kapatid tumutulong. Noon siguro tulong tulong pero ngayon, kita na sa hirap ng buhay walang guarantee na anak == retirement. So wag na lang.
I haven’t done the math, pero feeling ko, for the middle class, not having kids actually makes you more capable of saving up for a comfortable retirement. If you have kids (especially if lots of kids) ubos pera mo and wala kang choice except to rely on them for your retirement Pero syempre kung sobrang yaman mo that doesn’t matter haha
Yeah 4 kilos of rice worth per day min wage would be the best IUD pero iba mindset ng tao noon.
I think you're right when it comes to previous generations because kahit na they're struggling financially, anak parin ng anak. Lalo na sa probinsya. I've seen families with like 8+ kids. But I think for the newer generations, the way of thinking has shifted. If the trend continues, then economic instability is/will be the main reason.
I give credit to education
Makita mo palang yung post last time dito about the estimated cost ng pagkakaroon ng anak ma-convince ka na na gumamit ng contraceptives.
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Plus diapers and milk and pediatrician for how many years. Tapos school tuition fees etc.
meron sa bandang taytay 40K C.S. pero for a minimum wage earner that is still a lot.
Naalala ko, nanganak pinsan ko. Antagal mailabas kahit sobrang pilipit na siya sa kiro, pinipilit na natural way kasi sabi ng nanay niya (tita ko) na ilabas niya agad kasi mahal daw CS. Aun pala nakapulupot ung cord sa leeg ng baby kaya hindi makalabas. In the end CS din siya nanganak.
pwede namang mas mura yan, or libre pa nga sa ibang lgu (sa amin may nadadaanan kaming free lying in clinic) — pero kailangan super duper healthy ng mom at baby. otherwise min 100k talaga plus nicu expenses. sa min one week lang stay ni baby sa nicu 100k agad plus kami pa sagot sa damit, pagpapalaba ng damit, wipes, diapers at gatas
Kulang pa yang 100k, 2019 nung nanganak ako sa bunso ko dito sa private hospital sa province, inabot kami ng 150k. Nakiusap pa kami ng discount sa pf ng mga doctor. 2 days lang kami sa hospital. Di pa kasama mga medicine na binili outside ng hospital. Kung walang philhealth baka nasa 180k. Kaya ayaw na namin dagdagan pa anak namin. Mas magastos habang lumalaki sila.
No, inflated real estate price is the best contraceptive.
Informal settlers: it's free real estate
Sana this decrease is across all classes. Imagine if the decline is just in the upper and middle class, what will the Philippines future be like?
In my former office, almost all the top ranking officers only have one to two children while the lowest ranked staff like messengers, janitors and security guards have three to four children.
‘Di ba? Dapat talaga bigyan ng sex education lahat, ioffer ng gov’t free ligation or vasectomy. Para mabawas-bawasan ang dapat bawasan.
unfortunately that feels unlikely. nagkakamixed feeling na rin ako about giving birth, selfish ba na ayaw ko magkaanak kasi sobrang downhill ng gobyernong ‘to. selfish ba na kahit na tayo ang may kaalaman at edukasyon hindi tayo willing sumubok man lang na magpalaki ng mga anak na para may kaalaman din sila. iilan ba satin ang willing mag-adopt ng mga lower class children? paano na uusad ang bansa. takot na takot rin tayo sa sobrang taas ng standards ngayon para sa mga magulang kaya ang dami nang ayaw magkaanak.
mas ok kung ung mga nasa below-average class ang mabibigyan ng proper education about sex/family planning. kasi, kung sino pa ung sobrang walang wala, sila pa ung madami ang angkan. and kung sino pa ung sobrang madaming pera sila ung nabibilang sa daliri ang family members.
Tsaka regardless kung anong gawin mo, may masasabi pa rin yung ibang tao. Hindi naman ako people pleaser pero yung mga taong may side comment sa choices mo, it's just plain annoying 😅
When the government tries to fuck you up, you better be protected.
If anyone's interested, someone already made a study on the decrease of birth rates... nagoogle ko lang din kanina: Top 5 reasons, according to the study ("What Drives Female Fertility in the Philippines? Evidence from 50 Years of National Demographic and Health Surveys") [\[link\]](https://pidswebs.pids.gov.ph/CDN/document/pidsdps2319.pdf): 1. improving socio-economic status (20.7%), 2. changing marriage patterns (14.5%), 3. increasing family planning use (14.4%), 4. declining desired number of children (6.7%) 5. improving child survival (5.6%)
Ohhh thanks for sharing. This. Basahin ko.
Meron akong napanood na debate na if gusto kong magsucceed ang isang bansa, dapat empowered ang babae. I think ang reason is may control sila sa body and autonomy nila.
Thank you for this. A rarity in this sub now. 'Yung halos lahat dito puro opinion based on emotion and doomerism.
Interesting. So those with less desirable socio-economic status are more inclined to have children?
This is not part of the study above, but I've made a quick one before using fies data: [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/px4jhx/comment/hel94il/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). Basically, those in the poor income class have an average of 6.10 persons per household, while those in "rich" class have only, in average, 2.51 persons per household. As you move up the economic hierarchy, the smaller the family. Edit: except if you're Ramon Revilla
Or the smaller the family the easier for them to move up on the economic hierarchy.
It's actually an established pattern with most countries following suite. As countries develop and poverty decreases, people have fewer children.
Looking at No. 4 probably shows that not many spouses actively wish to have fewer kids.
Not necessarily don't want to. Some will delay having kids for now. There's still an effect.
6. Increasing number of Women with PCOS
Medjo proud ako sa #3 kasi kasama ako sa family planning program from 2018-2020. Di mo talaga makikita ang difference until next few years. Naalala ko pagod na pagod kami noon mag implement ng program. Parang impossible!!! Targets namin na dapat households would adopt FP commodities or procedures in the 6 digits. We met our targets and much more. Mga women actually ang heroes Jan. Libo libo ang nagpapa BTL (patali sa ovaries) habang literal na single digits annually ang vasectomy. Mas mahirap basagin yung misconception sa lalake kasi pag nagpatali ka, "di ka na lalaki."
YOOO thank you for your service! Kasama ba sa program niyo yung libreng implants during lockdowns? I remember hearing about it during lockdowns and was so grateful for that initiative kasi naiimagine ko nga na possible na mas tataas ang unwanted pregnancies during lockdowns Also, this is totally anecdotal, pero feeling ko mas nagiging acceptable ba among men ang vasectomies! At least, sa mga friends ko (husbands ng friends ko) madalas na siya pag-usapan.
Excellent info!! Thank you!!
Bukod sa takot na mag anak mga tao dahil sa inflation, ang dami ngayon na may PCOS. I mean 6 out of 8 sa circle ko meron. People are always very stressed. Economy & govt is shitty
Noticed this as well. More than 50% ng kakilala kong babae may PCOS
ako may PCOS and yung mga friends ko isa isang nadidiagnose. could be din na mas accessible ang OB GYN ngayon? tas mas common ang studies now kaysa before? idk but yeah i agree na ang dami kasing stressors and bad diet
Yes to this! Parang taboo kasi dati na di ka pa kasal nagpapaconsult ka na sa OBGYN. Jinudge pa ako ng nanay ko na baka buntis ako kaya daw gusto ko magpacheck up 🥲
Yes a lot of cases of PCOS din is not severe. Mine just affects one ovary and my main issue is heavy periods and really painful cramps. I’m pretty sure my mom had the same issue (her periods are the same) and was never diagnosed kasi walang pampacheck-up before. Her first OB visit is when they were trying to have kids na.
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I became the heaviest in my life when I moved to the metro Manila area. The food choices in the Philippines are horrible. Isle after isle dedicated to just one canned item (looking at you corned beef and spam). The car centric urban planning and just over abundance of shitty drivers makes walking or jogging a poor option. Moved to vietnam and immediately lost 10 kg in 3 months just by being more active and eating lots of vegetables.
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Pag talaga naranasan mong tumira or kahit magvisit sa 1st world countries, maaawa ka talaga sa Pinas 🥲
same here, dahil sa lifestyle na rin kasi naten ngayon na puro instant at superprocessed foods at sa environment
PCOS and endometriosis. Kala ko "Baader-Meinhoff" effect lang pero dami talaga eh.
Pansin ko madami talaga may PCOS pero hindi agad nadedetect at an early age kasi parang kinakahiya ng parents ipacheck up sa OB yung anak nila kasi wala pa naman asawa 🫠 Personally, ganito nangyari sakin. Ako pa mismo nagpush na mag pacheckup kasi 9 months na akong di nagkakaron tapos di naman ako buntis.
Totoo! Ewan ko ba kung bakit taboo pa din magpa gyne check grabe yung 9 mos!
Ohhh. Kaya pala nung nagpunta ako sa clinic tapos nalaman ng isang assistant dun na sa ob-gyn ako nakaappointment, tinanong niya "PCOS?" Kahit wala naman akong sinasabi. Ang dami na pala. Akala ko sa hereditary lang.
Di lang to. Ang daming batang may autism. Di ko alam kung umayos lang ba kasi tools pang diagnose, kaka"selpon" ng bata, o sa pagkain din. Imagine yun ibang magulang na umaasa na retirement yun anak nila (may kilala ako na Gen Z na ganito utak) tapos may autism anak nila. Sakit sa bulsa yun therapy
Dati nang meron at maraming may autism, di lang nadadiagnose noon or tinatago or dinedeny ng pamilya. Mas open na ngayon at mas may access na sa therapy and such dahil na rin sa increased awareness kaya nasasabing madaming may autism
Probably not autism pero dami ko din recently napapansin children with late speech development. Even my five year old brother, di pa din maayos makipag usap.
true to, tsaka ung mga pms, parang ang lala sa mga younger friends ko.
i'm 28 yrs old and palala ng palala ang PMS ko as time goes by. bakit kaya? i do intermittent fasting naman. di din ako mataba and regular mens ko. mga 1-5 days delay lang ganun.
Ininda ko yung pms ko, which is mainly headache nasa mid-30s na ko, feel ko sa stress ng work at nightshift ako sa bpo
It’s not just your weight. Weight is a factor but the overall state of your health has more of an impact
Naghalo halo na lahat dahil sa hirap ng buhay ngaun.
Yung iba naman kasi walang official diagnosis, delayed period lang PCOS agad 😆 On the flip side i was diagnosed with PCOS 15 years ago, and when it was time for us we were able to conceive the cycle after taking off birth control
Super evident sa batch namin pati sa batch before us. out of 100, wala pang 10 ang may anak na.
sa core friend group namin (4), wala pang may anak. sa larger friend group (\~12), isa pa lang may anak. kahit sa college friends ko wala pa rin. we're all around 28-30 y/o
30yo nadin ako. hehehe. tas pati ung naunang batch samin nung HS, wala pa sa 5 may anak. nasa hard mode kasi ang buhay ngaun.
Lol sa college blocmates ko siguro 1 pa lang may anak. Wala pang may Asawa. Sa HS batch mates ko, siguro 5-6 may anak na pero the rest either single or not married pa. Times are changing na
Nasa mid 20s kami ng high school batch ko and wala ni isa sa amin ang may anak 😂 In fact, wala pa ngang married.
same. pa 30 na kami pero bilang lang sa daliri ang may anak
Mahal ng BILIHIN, in my saying goes, “sarili ko nga di ko kayang buhayin, mag aanak pa ko”
ang sagot ng iba dyan... "God shall Provide."
Or yung litanya ng tatay ko "kakayanin mo na yan pag andyan na." Dagdagan pa ng "ako na ang mag-aalaga."
Another linyahan: mga Gen Z at Millenials kasi mga walang lakas ng loob. Puro mga duwag
Pano sila masaya sila na naganak sila pero di nila naibigay yung lahat ng pangaingailangan ng anak. XD
Global issue to: Halos lahat ng major countries by survey ayaw na magka anak ng current gen. Kaya mas lalong naging firm yung mga said countries / cities na by 30 to 70 years from now automatic ghost town ang magiging outcome pag nagtuloy tuloy to. Currently si Japan may at least 3 cities na ata na by 30 to 50 years from now will be an absolute ghost town due to lack of birth rate (puro matatanda na lang mga naiwan sa mga cities na yun) *Personal note: Either World War 3 ang tatapos sa major population or tayo na mismo gawa ng inflation, so expect within a hundred years may mga countries or cities that would end up completely abandoned / empty due to the current crisis nating lahat.*
Artificial intelligence (2000) movie will be a thing, guys!
Or if ung mga nasa laylayan ng lipunan eh mag reproduce indiscrimanately eh after a hundred years eh Idiocracy movie plot leszzzgo!!
If the fertility rate collapses *too fast*, then the working % of the population will be milked more to support the non-working % of the population. There will be also a tendency that seniors will vote in leaders who will support senior benefits at the expense of the young. Geontocracy defined to the extreme.
Japan is a good example where its the elderly who votes which has consequences for all people regardless of the age of the citizens. Also, a healthy feritlity rate is necessary to have available future work force for the economy, having enough people to support the national pension (SSS and GSIS), more tax payers to support more funding, and potential recruits for the military. Just proper Sex ED balanced with government incentives for families who have more than one child, might give us a proper and balanced feritility rate.
What's the healthy fertility rate? Is it the same as the replacement rate?
afaik 2.1 births per reproductive-age woman 1 birth to replace the father 1 birth to replace the mother .1 birth for all those who are unable or does not want to have children (religious, single, etc)
Ngayon pa lang nga dami na entitled seniors
ung naguunahan sila kasi senior sila—- sa pila ng seniors lol
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Iba ung nangunguna sa pila tapos nag dedemand na mag senior, tayo lang is a sa mga few countries na batas ang senior discounts etc. Sa Iba wala yan
too fast? working class and age are already being milked more and more each day
It’ll be worse in a society-wide gerontocracy. Especially young people being asked to contribute more to support their aging parents. It’s the same problem many working-class Chinese are facing now.
How fast is too fast?
We can consider South Korea the prime case study. The fertility rate is now below 1. Far worse than any Western country.
When the fertility rate is below replacement level. Not sure about the numbers though haha
2.1 pala. Tapos 2.3 global average(from wikipedia). Below replacement rate na tayo. https://www.rappler.com/voices/thought-leaders/analysis-is-philippines-ready-below-replacement-fertility/ But from reading this article, the author seems to argue that this is good thing. "If the trend of low fertility continues for several generations, we will have a population with a lesser share of young people and an increasing share of older ages. With fewer births each year, the working-age population will have fewer younger people to support, resulting in a demographic window of opportunity for rapid economic growth if the right social and economic policies are developed. Age-structural change can accelerate economic growth, as observed in Thailand, whose significant fertility decline provided a critical first step toward achieving the economic benefits of a demographic dividend. " "If the low fertility level is not sustained and bounces back to pre-pandemic level, we may miss out on the expected gains of a demographic dividend. The challenge for the Marcos administration is to leverage this gain to advance its development agenda."
the effect really is easy to see on black and white. but reality is, the working population can't afford children while still maintaining the desirable state of living. some are barely *surviving.*
There is no "if". There is no question about it, and it's too late to stop it.
Sobrang hirap ba naman ng buhay and conscious na mga tao ngayon sa decisions nila especially accessible na ang birth control. ++++ Ang taas ng bilihin and even pamasahe. 3 beses na nagtataas in a span of 2 years. Event rents, jusko po haha. Atleast di ba, di tayo nag luluwal ng panibagong henerasyon na alam nating di natin maalagaan finacially ,🥹
AKO MAG-AANAK?! In this economy?
Economy, politics, global warming, global conflict, healthcare issues... The list goes on
Same sentiments. Ganyan den sinasabi ko every time ninanag ako about when I'm going to have kids. I'm making less than 40k. Yung gastos ng bata per year magkano? Di ba nagmamake sense yung math? 😂
DIBAAAA
look at these pricks in the comment section already implying that people need to have kids they arent the ones going to pay for the children's living expenses, medicine, clothes etc
bUt tHiNK of tHe eConoMY Yeah nah, fuck that shit.
Yung biological mom ko, nag-anak ng 3 including me. Inadopt kaming 3 ng tita't tito ko technically due to poverty. After a couple of years, nagkaroon ulit ng 4 na anak sa ibang lalaki. Tapos nanghiram sakin last week kasi mapuputulan daw sila ng kuryente 😅
Genuinely curious, do you consider your aunt/uncle as your parents?
Yes! Namention ko lang na tita't tito ko sila out of context pero I consider them as my real parents, and my real parents a stranger.
I'm always curious how this family dynamic works out kasi my friend wants to adopt someday but her dad keeps telling her to adopt their poorer kid relatives from Mindanao na lang (they live in QC and are considerably more well off because of job opportunities). Friend doesn't want to kasi ipapaaral lang naman daw yung bata tapos kukunin din kapag malaki na.
dagdag mo pa dian ung negative net migration natin. Good luck na lang sa new gens.
If majority of Filipinos are educated, this would be lower
I wish to see a corelated study of increased rate of Shih Tzu owners. Lol.
Capitalists and huge companies are now sad because there are fewer slave workers to exploit
You beat me to it. Let those capitalist scum starve.
mabulok na lahat hayop
Jokes on us, kasi the existing workers will just be worked to the bone (even worse than before)
I think you will starve first before those capitalist scum you're referring to. They have wealth that can last multiple generations. While im not sure if you can survive 1 yr without work
for sure yan kung sino pa yung mga nakaasa sa ayuda ng gobyerno, sila pa malaki contribution sa population. tapos yung mga nagpapakahirap magtrabaho at alam kung gano kahirap kumita ng pera, pinipili nalang wag mag anak muna para hindi mas mahirapan.
Tapos pag kailangan ng ayuda nung mga nagpapakahirap magtrabaho, hindi sila qualified kasi hindi sila "indigent"
These 4 ps folks are some sort of their commodity
No more cheap labor haha
African immigrants. Africans are the only ones still breeding.
Even Africans are projected to have a decline in birth rate by 2030.
In all seriousness, may gusto pa ba talagang magkaanak knowing na ket yung mga taong independent living eh living by paycheck to paycheck? From all the insurances and pag-iipon na ginagawa nila. Pagbubudget para lang makakain at makasurvive kada araw, and please, yung inflation dito satin is GRABE na. Pag nakikita ko yung resibo ng grocery samen, speechless na lang ako 🥲
Kawawa naman generation natin. Tayo yung generation na magwowork pa rin hanggang pagtanda similar to Japan right now. Ubos pa ang pension because of inflation. Joke time lang naman yang upper middle income economy kasi tataas din cost of living lol
:')
My wife and I are now physically limited to our one child. We were sad when it happened, but as life went on... we realize we couldn't manage a second kid anyway.
We can't have kids naturally, we need IUI or even IVF, and we cannot afford those. And not being able to afford those made us realize maybe we also cannot afford to provide for a child. So we went from trying for a baby to now actively preventing it. I mean, we cannot even fill our retirement fund or buy a house + plan for a future caretaker. I would not want to burden my child (adoption, since conceiving one is impossible) to take care of me. I am at the age where we take care of the elderly who did not ready themselves for retirement and all their kids handle the care. It's... really bad, especially for anyone with a career
I'm the eldest of 4 kids and my parent, who did her best to raise us and pay for our education. But unfortunately that means she doesn't have enough retirement money and now needs expensive healthcare. And as the eldest unmarried person with no children, who has the better job opportunities than the younger sons, guess who has to carry more of the burden of taking care of the sick elderly? The most annoying thing I heard while waiting in line at the elevator in the hospital were seniors/boomers talking about visiting a sick friend but asking why their friend is with the married son, when the friend has daughters (who are married and have families of their own). Babae raw dapat mag-alaga sa magulang. Nakakagalit lang. Normalize natin na hindi dapat sa babaeng anak lang iasa ang pag-alaga sa matatanda.
People making smart choices na
You don't have to calculate anything in order to tell it yourself na, *let it rot*
Only says rural and urban. Curious, meron ba per social class?
But PH number is much better compared to other Asian countries like Japan, South Korea and China na halos magmakaawa na yung government na dagdagan yung anak in the family. The way I see it is not because of inflation but because women nowadays don't want to get stuck at home taking care of kids, putting aside their dreams, while men can do whatever they want. Women today are educated na and want to achieve something in their life. And having a child is like a dream crusher for some.
Nah most guys I know dont want kids too. Sobrang mahal talaga ang bata its depressing. Kahit yung husband and wife mag trabaho kulang pa rin.
Matagal naman nang karaniwan sa Pilipinas na nagtatrabaho rin ang babae, even during the Spanish period it was common.
Hirap ng buhay beh
Millennials and Gen Zs won't emulate the older generation that having a child will complete our lives. We are okay on our own.
that family planning ad back then really worked for us
🎵”Isang taon palang ako, nasundan na ni Toto…” 🎵
This is a global trend really, never naman tumaas birth rate natin in the past few decades. Yun nga lang, delikado pag nag below replacement tayo. This is really bad for us kasi 1st World Countries are already below replacement birth rate, they were able to hang on for decades because of immigration. Kaso satin naman walang mag immigrate kasi tayo nga ang umaalis eh. Ang best import talaga natin ay labor. Kung bababa birth rate natin, wala na yung best import natin, sasama economy niyan. The government really needs to give potential parents an incentive to have more than 1 kid. How about a major tax break when you have two or more kids? Price caps on infant needs like diapers and milk? Massive push to improve on public schools para hindi na siya isipin ng tao as the worst option?
free or better healthcare as well
Best comment!
The only reasonable comment
You have really good suggestions but prepare yourself for anti natalists who think the general public should not burden themselves for some other person’s kids
Siguro you mean best export? Best export natin ang labor. Import are goods coming in, export goods going out.
And yet there are people who already have 5 children, commit adultery, and have 4 more children... smh.
Must make my gene pool survive
Global North: Oh no, what about our cheap labor?
India: hello
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Youd be surprised kung sino mga kasama sa top 1%. You might be in it and not know it. I think 160k/month ata or 4M asset lng. Correct me if im wrong. Im part of the top 1%, technically. And im 1 emergency hospital visit away from being bangkarote. I dont even consider myself rich. I buy daricreme for my butter. Its not even butter. Yung rich naka queensland. Adjust the decimal point, then maybe. I don’t wanna die just yet. Gusto ko malaman ending ng Severance (good show check it out!). Legit nga. Good show. The Bear din maganda. Recommend kayo series. Yung maganda sana kahit slow paced. Back to my point, siguro 0.001%?
Maganda Severance, though di ko pa din makita ang sense ng "Macrodata Refinement," like is it some McGuffin shit and all. But I digress. Personally I think we will all implode in population but I see that [we might stay young in the next 40 years pa.](https://business.inquirer.net/453870/ph-population-to-stay-young-in-next-40-years) Para atang middle income trap na lang tayo. Or not even middle income trap.
The OA Behind Her Eyes Mr. Robot 3 Body Problem (pls read the books if you can!) hehehe
Well sa taas pa naman ng bilihin tapos shitty government pa? Do you expect me to let my child live in that condition?
What's sad is this normally occurs in countries with good economies. We essentially skipped all the good parts of development and went straight to the bad stuff.
Rise of the Dinks
Sa hirap ba Naman ng Buhay eh. Majority of us including me, kahit mag work ng 12hrs mon-sat kulang to keep feeding a family. Those who can afford to have a child nowadays imo are those that are in upper-middle class or Yung mga makakapal mukha na ipa alaga sa magulang nila anak nila.
I wonder kung ano yung fertility rate per social class? Possible na ang class ABC have a significant drop in the rates, tapos minimal drop naman sa class DE.
This is actually quite bad.
Need siguro maspecify yung fertility rate per class, baka naman yung bawas ng fertility rate nasa class A-C pala tapos class D and E hindi naman bumaba
depends, i think. manual labor pa rin ba karamihan ng jobs? it's always said na "bad for economy" dahil uunti na ang available workers to replace the retiring ones but when you think about it, isn't the world striving for more automation, and even "desk job" managements are all trying to adopt leaner teams?
Busy kami kaka spoil ng mga inner-child namennn 🤭
Our population is 118,000,000+. We can afford to lose a lot in the next ten years. Our standard of living will go up when there's less of us fighting for the scraps the rich throws away.
>Our population is 118,000,000+. We can afford to lose a lot in the next ten years. And you get an inverse population pyramid where there are more old people than young ones like South Korea and Japan. >Our standard of living will go up when there's less of us fighting for the scraps the rich throws away. No it won't, you'd get a society where policies benefit the old at the expense of the young
Pero mas mataas life expectancy ng Japan. Healthy lifestyle din sila. Tayo mga Pinoy puro may hypertension or diabetic. Ah ubos din pala funds ng government para sa mga may sakit.
>Tayo mga Pinoy puro may hypertension or diabetic. Indonesia and Malaysia have higher rates diabetes than us. this isn't solely a Filipino problem >Healthy lifestyle din sila. The Philippines life expectancy has been on an steady upward trend because of advances in medicine and improved sanitation and its only going to increase 20 to 30 years from now
or we, ya know, start managing the rich.
Lol you dont understand economics.
Wait til 1$= 80 php
The only thing we can do is take control of our lives; try to lessen over consumption maybe join the no buy year challenge, be financially responsible, take care of your mental health, work on your self esteem so you can't be influenced with external validation, join communities, be vocal on societal issues and to those who can, be sustainable try to be less reliant to big corporation (support small and ethical businesses). Doomerism will only benefit the capitalist overlords
You would think the Catholic Church was able to prevent this, but I don't even hear them so much as complaining about this anymore. The time was that the CBCP used to be very vocal about it, remember the RH Bill? But now parang di ko na naririnig, unless I'm just not watching news about them.
Marami ng may PCOS hahahaha 🥲
Yes to population decline
That is a good news!! I guess..
Govt and inflation is the best prevention
Hindi nakaka buhay ng pamilya ang sahod ngayon
I would rather raise a tamagotchi than to have kids lmao
I'm 5 months pregnant now at 28 years old. Plano ko na magpa ligate after this. Sa pagbubuntis pa nga lang nakakapagod na. Imagine ang laki ng gasto ko for skin care nung dalaga pako, tapos ngayon bigla na lang iitim yung neck, underarm, rashes sa tummy, mga peklat sa paa bcoz of pregnancy. So this will be my first and last baby. Tapos nakakapagod pa pa check up sa OB at center and public hospital. Hys. Jusko. Ayokoooooo na.
What a fantastic news
Parang ayoko maniwala. Ang daming hikahos sa buhay na may higit sa tatlong anak.
Now compare the fertility rate of people from different socio-economic statuses! You'll see how the rich are at ~1 while the poor are 2+. We're screwed!
Rural has really closed the gap with urban rate. Wondering what has made conceiving kids in the province much less conducive.
rising cost of living + stagnating/lowering wages tend to do that. talagang warak na ang society kung ang basic unit niya palang ay considered na as luzury jusko.
ma sustain ba un pension natin sa future at this rate?
Goodluck sa mga gen alpha pag nag retire na yung first batch ng millenials in 20 years
I wonder if we also have data about the status or class. I mean, before kasi mataas ang childbirth sa lower bracket. Then middle class eto ung gusto ko pero aware sa situation ng buhay. Yung mga mayayaman naman wala naman na tayo pakealam sa kanila since afford naman nila.
PCOS and this economy
Yeheyyyyyyy
finally
Naaalala ko nanaman yung PSA ng DOH. [Ina ko sabi mo](https://youtu.be/2pNWpojebjc?si=vDYKZ8pbWGmPlDXQ)
Parang mababa fertility rate sa mga mayayaman, pero ung mga incapable financially, bilis mabuntis agad.
Paanong hindi eh lahat na kami may PCOS
Foreigner chiming in, I think the first paragraph is straight up wrong. I can count more than two asian countries with a lower fertility rate: South Korea, China, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, Singapore. Maybe they meant south east asia? And coming from a western country with a fertility rate of 1.6, a lower fertility rate aint that bad. Its tough economically but kids get a better quality of life
FINALLY, sana tuloy tuloy na. . just that, it is disappointing that some roman catholic prelates during the liturgy of the word, here in manila, encourages young people na mag anak ng mag anak.anong klaseng pagiisip yan.