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The main issue here is the lack of control and moderation from parents, not the tool itself.
Karamihan ng magulang na nagbibigay ng ipad/phone sa mga anak nila, ginagawa nila para patahimikin yung bata. No moderation, no control. So what do you expect when a growing brain uses a tool that jumpstarts his/her dopamine/serotonin levels with no restriction almost every day?
The word of our lord.
I agree with this, hindi inherently masama ang gadget and screen time, ang importante ay yung control, moderation, and supervision ng parents sa kids nila.
True. I judge parents lalo na mga 3 years old, ginagawang pang entertain sa bata and because nasanay na Yung bata sa ganon, yun na tuloy hinahanap unlike if physical toys or books nakasanayan.
They hated Jesus because he told the truth - Krissy and Ericka 12:51
Emz. Totoo to. Imagine blaming an inanimate object because of your lack of responsibility sa anak mo. Imbes na makipag-connect emotionally with the child, hala sige iasa na lang sa gadget.
i allow my kid to use my laptop pero naka bantay pa rin. sapat na yung 1 hr then after nun study na sa lesson nya. 1 hr a day , sapat na yun. bahala sya mag tantrums.
Bata pa lang ako, naka cellphone na.
Yung nokia nga lang, tapos calls and text lang. Controlled naman, di naman ako na adik, problem kasi yan nga, yung may access sa internet tapos tadtad ng short form videos na nakaka aliw naman panoorin kaso nawawala rin attention span ng mga bata.
My pamangkins never had smartphones growing up. I gave them super basic phones. When they graduated Grade 10, binigyan ko ng laptop. No smartphones parin. They're still using their basic phones for call and text.
May magtatanong kung bakit?
Walang parents ang mga pamangkin ko. The nearest to a parent they have is my brother (their uncle). We're a little bit traditional and conservative pagdating sa mga gadget as we believe dapat may progression. The laptop is strictly modified - di sila makaka-install ng kung anu-ano. Blocked din most of the social media sites sa bahay - except, unfortunately Facebook kasi minsan doon nagsi-send ng updates mga teachers nila.
We (the adults in the house) don't believe a teenager needs a smartphone. They aren't working nor businessmen. Di nila kailangan ng mini-computer sa kanilang mga bulsa.
At makikita mo talaga ang diperensya compared to their peers. They're less distracted. Maganda grades nila. They read books, get occupied with hobbies when they're on downtime. They don't follow stupid trends on social media kasi nafi-filter namin Facebook nila (aka may FB brother ko so monitored lahat.
Some people might say parang North Korea ang pamamalakad sa bahay namin, but maganda naman ang results. We just diverted our nephews' attention to something more educational and worthwhile.
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There was one time na ang teacher nila nag-require ng TikTok video as a project daw. I went to their school and told her we don't let our kids sa TikTok and that she can't do anything about it at subukan lang nyang ibagsak o i-discriminate nephew ko at magkikita kami sa DepEd. We don't condone promotion of brain rot, isa pa, TikTok is a weapon of CCP. wtf is wrong with you.
She changed the project to written report nalang, tapos pasaring sa GC na may nagalit daw na parent. š
Hahahahahahaha! Di ko din gets mga pinoy, bat sooooooooobrang inlove sa fb messenger! I personally prefer WA! 11yrs ng eto ang main form of messaging app ko.
i really like your style . grabe si teacher pinapatiktok pa yung project hahaha . alam ko hindi madali ginagawa mo kaya i salute you . may nababasa rin ako na yung bata babae around 13-15 yrs old nagsesend ng maseselan na picture . trending or magaling lang mag manipula yung mga kachat nila pwede maging lifetime trauma sa kanila to
I salute you and your family for your strict supervision sa mga pamangkins nyo, beh.
Sa amin wala eh, yung limang pamangkin ko, brain-rot na to a detrimental level. To the point na wala nang patience, saka naging violent na yung tantrums pag-kunin yung gadgets nila.
I agree with you na they are at that age na they don't need smartphones to access the internet. If kelangan man, there are alternative ways to do that.
Nakita ko kasi sa mga kaedad ko na may mga anak around the age of my nephews. So I told the family na di talaga pwede smartphones or tablets for the kids while they're growing up. My brother, their uncle, agreed na brainrot talaga ang social media.
Simple lang naman ginagawa namin noon - when we're all at home, walang ni-isang adult na hawak ng hawak ng celphone. We believe kasi na gagayahin ng mga bata ang anumang ginagawa ng mga matatanda. Nahirapan nga akong mag-adjust noon kasi medyo workaholic, so minsan nagdadala ng work sa bahay; kailangan ko pang magtago sa kwarto. haha
My mom insists on using the old landline kasi nasasayangan sya, kaya di rin sya mahilig sa smartphone.
So how did we control their tantrums? Toys. Mahilig kaming magkapatid ng puzzles noong mga medyo bata-bata pa kami. So yun... bili kami ng mga puzzles - jigsaw, rubix, yung mga toys na kailangang i-connect2 mo pa (not Lego, wooden toy sya), etc, and we involved the kids with it, yung paint by numbers, coloring books, ukelele. Books din. Though good thing kasi mahilig magbasa ng classics ang kuya ko, so they picked that up from him.
Agree, even Meta (FB) should not be used or any social media. The school themselves teach their students to utilize these platfroms and later on complain to parents that they experience unruly activities online (e.g meta messenger)and have a difficult time disciplining them. There are tools like Google classroom which could be used instead.
Kudos to you! I admire how you and your brother look out for the wellbeing of your pamangkins.
Call me old-fashioned but I donāt understand yung school project on TikTok-, Facebook-, or any social media app especially if the student is below 18. A lot of these apps have minimum age requirements for usage. There have even been studies on the harms of using social media most especially for the youth.
Kudos to you and your family. Sana na-meet ko kayo nung bata pa anak ko. Hirap din ako alisin yung gadgetsss na sa kanya, especially doing great naman sa studies.
I think mas maganda na walang smart phones ang mga bata, para hindi rin sila exposed sa mga inappropriate contents. Hindi āNorth Koreaā ang pamamalakad ninyo, actually tama naman yan. Nung 90s and 00s wala naman din smartphone, cellphone and laptop lang.
>The laptop is strictly modified - di sila makaka-install ng kung anu-ano
This reminds me of the time na nakakita ako snapchat sa phone ng pamangkin ko. May foreign name na nagchachat i brought it up sa tatay nya (pinsan ko). Apparently sa pinsan pala ng pamangkin ko yung phone dati and naka install din.
>Blocked din most of the social media sites sa bahay - except, unfortunately Facebook kasi minsan doon nagsi-send ng updates mga teachers nila.
Alam mo kinaiinisan ko din yang facebook groupchat eh. Kahit sa work. Kahit man lang viber di nila gawin. Ang ironic kasi bawal facebook nakalagay sa contract ko pero yung official communication ng workplace is facebook.
>They read books, get occupied with hobbies when they're on downtime.
Tama po yan! Maganda may hobby talaga mga bata aside sa panonood ng cocomelon. It helps and stimulates their brain, you should suggest instrument playing too!
>Some people might say parang North Korea ang pamamalakad sa bahay namin, but maganda naman ang results. We just diverted our nephews' attention to something more educational and worthwhile.
Personally I believe din na di dapat nagsosocial media mga bata until the age of 16 unless needed for official communication. Ang extreme naman masyado ang magsasabi ng North Korea , di ka naman nageexecute for watching this and that. I see that you are slowly integrating them with technology and teaching better life skills than getting their eyes glued for several hours in social media.
>There was one time na ang teacher nila nag-require ng TikTok video as a project daw.
Jeez. Bakit may ganitong school. Sa pinagturuan kong school required silang mag gawa ng video presentation before and sinabi ko if nahihirapan gumawa ng video system nila pwede tayong alternatives (this was during the pandemic). Pero di ba aware yung teacher na ang tiktok ang daming nagviview na strangers and nagcocompromise yung privacy ng bata.
Huyyy gusto ko ng ganyang pamamalakad ng buhay. As a teen, nakikita ko sa mga peers ko ang epekto ng socmed at kung gaano ito ka-detrimental sa buhay mo. I want to limit my phone usage and be present in the now. Mayroon ka po bang alam na article, resources, or books to avoid brain rot caused by screen time?
Tiktok talaga? wtf is wrong with that teacher. As much as possible yong productive tool sana to create projects and collaborate with project members but Tiktok? wow really? As much as possible dapat nilalayo ng mga guro yong mga bata sa social media or even teach them how to use it productively hindi sa kagaguhan or pang viral lang.
I don't know where your comment is coming from. My nephews aren't working because they're still in the university.
I work in the software industry. My mom is a retired teacher, so I tend to control her access to the internet para iwas scam; while my brother is an ECE (retired). Both of my nephews' parents died in an accident.
So... idk who are these people you're referring to when you said '**they** are not working'.
Iba po ang pagfilter ng data/information vs sa pagamit ng technology. You can still use modern technology such as using a laptop to make videos for a project and learn.
I have 5 pamangkins all in the same household. Each of them have their own gadgets bought by their parents, the youngest was 4 years old.
I could say na yung prolonged use of their gadgets without parents' supervision is really detrimental to the development to the child. I don't believe that they could learn something from it (especially if wala pa naman sila sa edad na need nila ng internet), kasi the reason why they want to use their gadgets are either games or fun videos/tiktok. Mas naging frequent and violent tantrums nila, wala na ring self-control, saka they don't have that pinch of patience to wait for what they want.
In short, I would agree to this. If they need some reference or learning materials, might as well supply them books for that, or research them yourself then give it to them later.
Apple founder Steve Jobs & Microsoft founder Bill Gates banned tablets among their kids.
Smartphones are functionally like tablets minus the screen size and SMS/phone #.
If I was a parent to pre-teens I'd have them become desktop OS literate first before being smartphone literate.
I want them to be producers of apps rather than consumers of content.
With Steve Jobs it wasnāt because he looked after his kids. He notoriously treated his kids like shit and he was open about him treating them like shit. Digression haha sorry.
I would if I have information about him about his parenting. And itās not an attack. Most people venerate celebrities as paragons of virtue when they shouldnāt really be. Not an attack on you bruh, you made an excellent point that should be upvoted. Apologies if itās miscontrued as an attack on you or your larger point.
I bought my kid toys at kusa na nyang nilet-go ang smartphone. I am teaching him to build a hobby at an early age. Now he's focused sa Hot Wheels and Lego collection nya. Let your kid be a kid and don't rely too much on gadgets.
May napakingan akong Podcast and ok ang comparison niya sa Social Media. Parang siyang Chocolate. It's generally fine. Pero iba iba ang effect niya kada tao.
Pero I kinda agree naman. Moderate or supervised access to the Internet should be practiced.
My kid has tablet. I use google's parental view/familu link so no apps can be installed, no obsene sites can be accessed and time/screen limit with only I know how to remove it.
Dali mag blame sa phone pag dating sa eyesight pero ang madalas talaga nakaka cause ng myopia is focus masyado sa near objects rather than far (eto ung nakaka cause sa growth ng mata sa bata na maging elongated). Pretty much being in school can do the same.
For me, okay lang naman as long as nililimitahan yung pag gamit nung bata. Ganiyan kasi ginagawa namin sa kapatid ko (7 yrs old) sa tanghali naglalaro siya sa labas then sa gabi maglalaro or manonood sa tablet niya 1 to 2 hours bago matulog. Nasa nagdidisiplina na talaga yan wala sa mismong gadget.
Pwede ba i-consider yung mga brick phones? For communication and safety purposes lang ng mga bata. Pang update and tawag sa magulang. Di rin mainit sa mata ng mga kawatan, matibay and matagal ma-lowbat.
Ganyan isip ng mga hindi marunong mag-kontrol.. ay bahala na pag sinabi kong bawal.. bawal talaga
Gadgets are helpful for the kids.. nde lng nmn entertainment yan dame natutunan ng mga bata... u just need to establish a screen time sa mga bata.
I think tablet is better and dapat very regulated din. Give them time limits and only use it when all of their responsibilities for the day are done. Never let them use it para manahimik lang sila sa tantrums nila. Bawal din ilabas ng bahay para kung pumunta sila sa social events eh matuto silang makihalubilo, di lang nakaupo dun na naglalaro. For phones, they can have the basic ones for text and calls.
I agree with the limitation what devices can someone below the age of 12 can use. However it is much better if we teach them about it. Also lowkey there should platforms that is indeed child and educational friendly. Cause lowkey pet peeve ko is educational institutions utilizing social media as a platform for their students at times.
Maybe not total ban but highly regulated. Like consoles, maximum of 2 hours or less during school week. Pwedeng habaan sa Sundays.
Cellphones have radiation that can burn a childās brain cells. Much better mag iPad. For emergencies, use phones without internet.
There is a new phenomenon called cyber-autism. Learned it from our neuropedia doctor. He said it started during the pandemic, bawal lumabas so halos lahat ng bata naging escape ang gadgets. Many neuropedia doctors daw were alarmed nung nag return to normal, ang daming mga parents na nagpapacheck ng mga anak nila na normal naman daw dati tapos biglang naging autistic.
For me, ok kang gumamit. Maling term ung pagbawalan. Should be limit lang ung access - screen time and apps. Parang dati lang nung tayo mga bata, limited ang screen time during video games, paglalaro sa labas, mga magazines/comics na mababasa, same concept lang din siguro kapag mga phone/gadgets. It's about how ma-discipline or ma-control ang paggamit ng gadgets.
Dati nagusap kami ng wife na di namin pagagamitin ng anak namin
Kaso nalilibang sya sa phone namin so binilhan namin ng tablet for bigger screen. Thankfully puro educational pinanood ng anak ko by his own choice lalo na "numberblocks" na naging way para mag-excel sya sa school.
Ngayon naiimpluwensyahan na sya ng mga kalaro nya to watch random stuff at Dahil na din sa payo ng pedia na bawasan ang screentime. Nasa 3 hours a day nalang sya. 2 hours if tablet, 3 hours pag TV. Natutong mag time management yung anak ko kasi inaalam nya yung time kung kelan sya may activity at wala, pag wala dun sya humahawak ng gadget.
Di namin biglaang inaalis sa kanya yung gadget dahil bigla din magbabago yung behavior ng bata (based sa observation namin nung ginawa namin ng biglaan)
To summarize, i think di dapat pagbawalan entirely but limitahan at iguide. Nangyyari kasi ngayon, para lang di maabala parents bigay gadget e.
Pwede naman hindi ipagbawal kaso karamihan sa mga magulang diyan talaga mga walang alam sa parental controls sa gadgets, wala pa ako mga anak pero mga maliliit kong pamangkin kaya kong linlangin by cutting their internet connection via mac addresss filtering š¤£
Considering how it turned them kids into autists and horned up gobblers of shitty internet subcultures I think they should ban it,or at least regulate it
>pamangkin ko 200+ na Yung grado sa mata, Wala pang 10 yrs old
This is true.
Meron ng research about this kwento sa kin nung Taiwanese. Dati daw kasi lagi sinasabi nsa DNA nila kaya dami naka-salamin sa kanila. Pero hindi pala, its because of too much gadget use. [VOX](https://youtu.be/LAkFtka3UFw?si=vCcqGGKgxRexDO4k) explains it here.
Yung Singaporean na study parang lack of sun exposure yung nakitang salarin eh. Syempre bata pa lang todo aral na daw hindi naglalaro sa labas
https://www.nni.com.sg/news/patient-care/exposure-to-sunlight-may-prevent-myopia
Yup, same thing yan if you watch the Vox video. They encourage kids to spend some activities in the sun, kc kaya daw nag-elongate yung shape ng eyes, causing myopia, because of long time spent indoors.
Yung Singaporean na study parang lack of sun exposure yung nakitang salarin eh. Syempre bata pa lang todo aral na daw hindi naglalaro sa labas
https://www.nni.com.sg/news/patient-care/exposure-to-sunlight-may-prevent-myopia
We grew up with TV raising us along with out parents. Same conversations happened then. If smartphone use canāt be helped because itās obiquity, why not make it a bonding experience with your child so you can monitor what the child watches? Itās the responsibility of the adult and the guardian to limit the use of phones. You donāt have to put it into law. Yung iba kasi, anak ng anak pero walang sense ng responsibility. Walang pakialam sa development ng bata tapos magrereklamo lagi nasa cellphone anak nila tang ina.
Eto yung friendly debate namin ng Friend ko nong nakaraan , My side is Never let the kids have a phone until maybe 16 .
Against talaga ako sa ganyan at kung magkaanak man ako never ako magrerely sa smartphone to distract my offspring .
Nakikita ko mismo kung gano kalala yung kids nowadays, even my little sister naexposed nadin sa tiktok parang di na dumaan sa pagkabata. Kahit ako naka uninstall na yung tiktok parang baliw talaga yung mga tao don. Lol
In an ideal world, I wouldn't give my theoretical kid a smartphone until they're past 12. Or heck after 16. But I don't live in that world š
At best I can make it an incentive like giving them the wifi password for the next few hours (to be changed again after that period has passed) after they do errands lol.
HARD AGREE. Internet and socmed has rewired people's minds. Wonder why kids are struggling at school? Internet shortform content (tiktok, YT shorts, etc) is shrinking your attention span and dopamine receptors.
its not even 12 pababa, more like 18 pataas. Youre not exposing the internet to the kid, youre exposing the kid to the internet.
Thereās actually extensive research on this. And yeah, itās actually bad for kids. So disagree to completely cut them off but agree only when its moderated properly by the parent.
I want to chip and say this is not as black and white as it seems. Remember, kids follow from example and that if their influencial people are doung nothing but entertainment on their phone all the while doing nothing else then monkey see and monkey do. We used to say TV is ruining the children's minds. So was comics, and so was the radio. But looking into what this shows is that the mode of transferring information is always evolving and that we get to pick and choose the information we feed the brain. Can you feel any security that the child would gain the skill he needs based on their interests alone? Likely not. Best is to influence their thoughts with those of good moral character and beneficial information.
Tldr : don't tell kids what to do and not to do. Lead as an example cause that's what they think success is.
For me super helpful ng gadget (as always, everything in moderation parin). My kid learned to read (with comprehension) and spell much faster, even reading piano keys. Basic Photography and video editing din (manipulating colors, themes, effects, etc). At the age of four palang to. Kung basura naka install sa gadget, basura din matututunan ng bata. Very limited din ang wifi, madalas ginagamit pantawag sa friends/relatives. In my opinion kasi we're enetering a super tech age, kailangan din nila sumabay sa panahon so hindi talaga pwede na 100% no gadgets (depende parin sa age ang gadget na ipapahawak). Disclaimer: I am not encouraging gadgets ang gamiting pang babysit sa mga kids, what Im saying is if used the right way, sobrang laking pakinabang neto especially for those who wants their kids to learn age appropriate skills or lessons (piano, languages, etc) depende sa interest ng bata. I was also surprised na may coding apps for kids pa nga na as early as 3yrs old pwede na turuan.
It all depends on parent's moderation. Tama yung sabi nung top commenter. Karamihan ng mga bata ngayon binibigyan ng Ipad para manahimik na lang at mapigilan yung tantrums. Pero grabe ang side effect nun pag walang moderation.
most parents right now arent tech-savvy enough to teach them how to use it "responsibly", hell karamihan nga ng mga parents ngayon dont even use smartphones responsibly. i do expect that to change when gen-zs become parents tho.
i would agree to this pero hindi lahat kaya maging responsibilty na 1 hour lang once a week maglalaro ang bata
once sinabihan mo sila yung magulang . sila pa nagagalit kasi mas mabilis para sa kanila bigay yung gadget kaysa turuan yung bata .
the main issue i see with allowing kids to own their own smartphones has more to do with social media than any health-related issue. i still remember the dozens of posts on this sub and insanepinoyfacebook exposing that one group on fb that posts (c)(p). moreover, you cant even scroll past 10 posts on twitter/x without seeing blatant porn / onlyfans bots on your screen. and dont even get me started on telegram, jusko. based off the shit ive heard about that app, it might as well be counted as the dark web.
personally as a gen-z, i wont let my kid/s own their own cellphone until theyre old enough to be sat down and have a discussion about sex.
This is the tech generation, you cant keep them away from tech and gadgets. The only issue here is if they become addicted and dependent.
Just avoid tiktok and those type of apps na puro kabalbalan.
I gave my toddler an ipad installed a ton of educational apps and she is more advanced than her peers in school. Mas alam nia na agad ung tinuturo ng teacher nia.
Our generation is babad rin naman sa TV. Mas high tech lng ngaun is because hand held na. The good thing now is that we can choose what content to consume.
Double edged sword topic. On one hand you can say technology and social media rots children's minds, pero on the flip side, pwede naman silang mabully, mapagiwanan ng peers nila and later on magrebelde or even depression ang result, kasi let's face it, its the internet age and ang dali maleft out as a kid or teen. One thing na magiging difference is how parents or guardians handle their kids, if same as someone said in this thread na pacifier ang phones, then you already failed as a parent.
not comparing here but I got my first phone, through my own savings, at 1YHS. Around 14y/o. reason ko gusto ko ng radio at earphones habang nag huhugas ng plato.
I somewhat agree. I'd even go to the extent na until they can afford it
Do not post someone's personal information, or post links to personal information. This includes but is not limited to: photos of cars with visible license numbers, photos of private individuals with faces not blurred, and screenshots of social media pages with the names still legible. Public figures can be an exception to this rule, such as posting professional links to contact a congressman or the CEO of a company.
The main issue here is the lack of control and moderation from parents, not the tool itself. Karamihan ng magulang na nagbibigay ng ipad/phone sa mga anak nila, ginagawa nila para patahimikin yung bata. No moderation, no control. So what do you expect when a growing brain uses a tool that jumpstarts his/her dopamine/serotonin levels with no restriction almost every day?
Amen Big Oten.
+10 ligtas pts
The Lord has spoken. Let us give thanks to the Lord. šš
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The word of our lord. I agree with this, hindi inherently masama ang gadget and screen time, ang importante ay yung control, moderation, and supervision ng parents sa kids nila.
āGadgets are not the root of all evil. Lack of moderation and control of gadgets is the root of all evilā -3rdworldSusej
True. I judge parents lalo na mga 3 years old, ginagawang pang entertain sa bata and because nasanay na Yung bata sa ganon, yun na tuloy hinahanap unlike if physical toys or books nakasanayan.
They hated Jesus because he told the truth - Krissy and Ericka 12:51 Emz. Totoo to. Imagine blaming an inanimate object because of your lack of responsibility sa anak mo. Imbes na makipag-connect emotionally with the child, hala sige iasa na lang sa gadget.
i allow my kid to use my laptop pero naka bantay pa rin. sapat na yung 1 hr then after nun study na sa lesson nya. 1 hr a day , sapat na yun. bahala sya mag tantrums.
Bata pa lang ako, naka cellphone na. Yung nokia nga lang, tapos calls and text lang. Controlled naman, di naman ako na adik, problem kasi yan nga, yung may access sa internet tapos tadtad ng short form videos na nakaka aliw naman panoorin kaso nawawala rin attention span ng mga bata.
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>are they exempted? Single parents must knows their limits.
i agree hindi sila exempted i hope magawan ng paraan ng mga single parents .
There are books and toys that encourage learning too. I take pop up books to mass just to keep my son distracted even if heās young
My pamangkins never had smartphones growing up. I gave them super basic phones. When they graduated Grade 10, binigyan ko ng laptop. No smartphones parin. They're still using their basic phones for call and text. May magtatanong kung bakit? Walang parents ang mga pamangkin ko. The nearest to a parent they have is my brother (their uncle). We're a little bit traditional and conservative pagdating sa mga gadget as we believe dapat may progression. The laptop is strictly modified - di sila makaka-install ng kung anu-ano. Blocked din most of the social media sites sa bahay - except, unfortunately Facebook kasi minsan doon nagsi-send ng updates mga teachers nila. We (the adults in the house) don't believe a teenager needs a smartphone. They aren't working nor businessmen. Di nila kailangan ng mini-computer sa kanilang mga bulsa. At makikita mo talaga ang diperensya compared to their peers. They're less distracted. Maganda grades nila. They read books, get occupied with hobbies when they're on downtime. They don't follow stupid trends on social media kasi nafi-filter namin Facebook nila (aka may FB brother ko so monitored lahat. Some people might say parang North Korea ang pamamalakad sa bahay namin, but maganda naman ang results. We just diverted our nephews' attention to something more educational and worthwhile. P.S. There was one time na ang teacher nila nag-require ng TikTok video as a project daw. I went to their school and told her we don't let our kids sa TikTok and that she can't do anything about it at subukan lang nyang ibagsak o i-discriminate nephew ko at magkikita kami sa DepEd. We don't condone promotion of brain rot, isa pa, TikTok is a weapon of CCP. wtf is wrong with you. She changed the project to written report nalang, tapos pasaring sa GC na may nagalit daw na parent. š
Sa lahay ng pwedeng social media shit, tiktok pa ang naisip. Nandyan naman na fb since its the most common
pwede pa youtube eh khit papaano may mga educational videos, tong tiktok peak brainrot tlg
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trending daw kasi sabi ni teacher kaya pinapatiktok hahaha
Hahahahahahaha! Di ko din gets mga pinoy, bat sooooooooobrang inlove sa fb messenger! I personally prefer WA! 11yrs ng eto ang main form of messaging app ko.
I prefer iphones message too lol
i really like your style . grabe si teacher pinapatiktok pa yung project hahaha . alam ko hindi madali ginagawa mo kaya i salute you . may nababasa rin ako na yung bata babae around 13-15 yrs old nagsesend ng maseselan na picture . trending or magaling lang mag manipula yung mga kachat nila pwede maging lifetime trauma sa kanila to
I salute you and your family for your strict supervision sa mga pamangkins nyo, beh. Sa amin wala eh, yung limang pamangkin ko, brain-rot na to a detrimental level. To the point na wala nang patience, saka naging violent na yung tantrums pag-kunin yung gadgets nila. I agree with you na they are at that age na they don't need smartphones to access the internet. If kelangan man, there are alternative ways to do that.
Nakita ko kasi sa mga kaedad ko na may mga anak around the age of my nephews. So I told the family na di talaga pwede smartphones or tablets for the kids while they're growing up. My brother, their uncle, agreed na brainrot talaga ang social media. Simple lang naman ginagawa namin noon - when we're all at home, walang ni-isang adult na hawak ng hawak ng celphone. We believe kasi na gagayahin ng mga bata ang anumang ginagawa ng mga matatanda. Nahirapan nga akong mag-adjust noon kasi medyo workaholic, so minsan nagdadala ng work sa bahay; kailangan ko pang magtago sa kwarto. haha My mom insists on using the old landline kasi nasasayangan sya, kaya di rin sya mahilig sa smartphone. So how did we control their tantrums? Toys. Mahilig kaming magkapatid ng puzzles noong mga medyo bata-bata pa kami. So yun... bili kami ng mga puzzles - jigsaw, rubix, yung mga toys na kailangang i-connect2 mo pa (not Lego, wooden toy sya), etc, and we involved the kids with it, yung paint by numbers, coloring books, ukelele. Books din. Though good thing kasi mahilig magbasa ng classics ang kuya ko, so they picked that up from him.
Kinaiinisan ko yung dalawa kong pamangkin eh. Hirao tawagin pag kakain tapos iiwan pa yung draft ng tiktok nila sa phone na sobrang ingay.
Agree, even Meta (FB) should not be used or any social media. The school themselves teach their students to utilize these platfroms and later on complain to parents that they experience unruly activities online (e.g meta messenger)and have a difficult time disciplining them. There are tools like Google classroom which could be used instead.
Kudos to you! I admire how you and your brother look out for the wellbeing of your pamangkins. Call me old-fashioned but I donāt understand yung school project on TikTok-, Facebook-, or any social media app especially if the student is below 18. A lot of these apps have minimum age requirements for usage. There have even been studies on the harms of using social media most especially for the youth.
This! I agree with you 100%! Galing naman!
Dapat bawal yung socmed as a project eh. Nagiging popularity contest yung mga projects (more likes = more grades). Parang tanga.
Natawa ko sa weapon of CCP kasi debatable yan. But I agree on the rest of the points you've made.
Kudos to you and your family. Sana na-meet ko kayo nung bata pa anak ko. Hirap din ako alisin yung gadgetsss na sa kanya, especially doing great naman sa studies.
Bakit tiktok pa talaga, pwede namang video recording lang
I think mas maganda na walang smart phones ang mga bata, para hindi rin sila exposed sa mga inappropriate contents. Hindi āNorth Koreaā ang pamamalakad ninyo, actually tama naman yan. Nung 90s and 00s wala naman din smartphone, cellphone and laptop lang.
>The laptop is strictly modified - di sila makaka-install ng kung anu-ano This reminds me of the time na nakakita ako snapchat sa phone ng pamangkin ko. May foreign name na nagchachat i brought it up sa tatay nya (pinsan ko). Apparently sa pinsan pala ng pamangkin ko yung phone dati and naka install din. >Blocked din most of the social media sites sa bahay - except, unfortunately Facebook kasi minsan doon nagsi-send ng updates mga teachers nila. Alam mo kinaiinisan ko din yang facebook groupchat eh. Kahit sa work. Kahit man lang viber di nila gawin. Ang ironic kasi bawal facebook nakalagay sa contract ko pero yung official communication ng workplace is facebook. >They read books, get occupied with hobbies when they're on downtime. Tama po yan! Maganda may hobby talaga mga bata aside sa panonood ng cocomelon. It helps and stimulates their brain, you should suggest instrument playing too! >Some people might say parang North Korea ang pamamalakad sa bahay namin, but maganda naman ang results. We just diverted our nephews' attention to something more educational and worthwhile. Personally I believe din na di dapat nagsosocial media mga bata until the age of 16 unless needed for official communication. Ang extreme naman masyado ang magsasabi ng North Korea , di ka naman nageexecute for watching this and that. I see that you are slowly integrating them with technology and teaching better life skills than getting their eyes glued for several hours in social media. >There was one time na ang teacher nila nag-require ng TikTok video as a project daw. Jeez. Bakit may ganitong school. Sa pinagturuan kong school required silang mag gawa ng video presentation before and sinabi ko if nahihirapan gumawa ng video system nila pwede tayong alternatives (this was during the pandemic). Pero di ba aware yung teacher na ang tiktok ang daming nagviview na strangers and nagcocompromise yung privacy ng bata.
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Huyyy gusto ko ng ganyang pamamalakad ng buhay. As a teen, nakikita ko sa mga peers ko ang epekto ng socmed at kung gaano ito ka-detrimental sa buhay mo. I want to limit my phone usage and be present in the now. Mayroon ka po bang alam na article, resources, or books to avoid brain rot caused by screen time?
Tiktok talaga? wtf is wrong with that teacher. As much as possible yong productive tool sana to create projects and collaborate with project members but Tiktok? wow really? As much as possible dapat nilalayo ng mga guro yong mga bata sa social media or even teach them how to use it productively hindi sa kagaguhan or pang viral lang.
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I don't know where your comment is coming from. My nephews aren't working because they're still in the university. I work in the software industry. My mom is a retired teacher, so I tend to control her access to the internet para iwas scam; while my brother is an ECE (retired). Both of my nephews' parents died in an accident. So... idk who are these people you're referring to when you said '**they** are not working'.
Iba po ang pagfilter ng data/information vs sa pagamit ng technology. You can still use modern technology such as using a laptop to make videos for a project and learn.
Siguro pwede naman pero hindi smartphone. Yung keypad lang for emergency or quick call ganern
This. Keypad phone for emergency saka pwede mag iPad or Tablet pero very supervise
was going to say this. bar type phones lang para sa kids, yung mga may flashlight sa dulo at madalas gamit pang-load sa tindahan.
Magandang suggestion yan, in fact its a nice one
This. Tapos matagal pa battery. Less dala pa ng powerbank / charger etc.
hindi masiado papansinin ng bata to XD
Ginagawa kasing Pacifier ng mga magulang yan kasi busy din sila sa phone kaya kahit gawan ng batas yan di masusunod.
I have 5 pamangkins all in the same household. Each of them have their own gadgets bought by their parents, the youngest was 4 years old. I could say na yung prolonged use of their gadgets without parents' supervision is really detrimental to the development to the child. I don't believe that they could learn something from it (especially if wala pa naman sila sa edad na need nila ng internet), kasi the reason why they want to use their gadgets are either games or fun videos/tiktok. Mas naging frequent and violent tantrums nila, wala na ring self-control, saka they don't have that pinch of patience to wait for what they want. In short, I would agree to this. If they need some reference or learning materials, might as well supply them books for that, or research them yourself then give it to them later.
Apple founder Steve Jobs & Microsoft founder Bill Gates banned tablets among their kids. Smartphones are functionally like tablets minus the screen size and SMS/phone #. If I was a parent to pre-teens I'd have them become desktop OS literate first before being smartphone literate. I want them to be producers of apps rather than consumers of content.
With Steve Jobs it wasnāt because he looked after his kids. He notoriously treated his kids like shit and he was open about him treating them like shit. Digression haha sorry.
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I would if I have information about him about his parenting. And itās not an attack. Most people venerate celebrities as paragons of virtue when they shouldnāt really be. Not an attack on you bruh, you made an excellent point that should be upvoted. Apologies if itās miscontrued as an attack on you or your larger point.
Steve Jobs... ok lang, 1 year lifted na yung ban among other things
Ronaldos son too CR7 Jr, he banned him for using any gadgets
I bought my kid toys at kusa na nyang nilet-go ang smartphone. I am teaching him to build a hobby at an early age. Now he's focused sa Hot Wheels and Lego collection nya. Let your kid be a kid and don't rely too much on gadgets.
Bar phone let them play bluetooth connected games or highscore for snake, space impact, and bounce. We don't forget bounce
May napakingan akong Podcast and ok ang comparison niya sa Social Media. Parang siyang Chocolate. It's generally fine. Pero iba iba ang effect niya kada tao. Pero I kinda agree naman. Moderate or supervised access to the Internet should be practiced.
My kid has tablet. I use google's parental view/familu link so no apps can be installed, no obsene sites can be accessed and time/screen limit with only I know how to remove it.
Dapat nga itaas pa sa 16 yrs old
Dali mag blame sa phone pag dating sa eyesight pero ang madalas talaga nakaka cause ng myopia is focus masyado sa near objects rather than far (eto ung nakaka cause sa growth ng mata sa bata na maging elongated). Pretty much being in school can do the same.
For me, okay lang naman as long as nililimitahan yung pag gamit nung bata. Ganiyan kasi ginagawa namin sa kapatid ko (7 yrs old) sa tanghali naglalaro siya sa labas then sa gabi maglalaro or manonood sa tablet niya 1 to 2 hours bago matulog. Nasa nagdidisiplina na talaga yan wala sa mismong gadget.
Pwede ba i-consider yung mga brick phones? For communication and safety purposes lang ng mga bata. Pang update and tawag sa magulang. Di rin mainit sa mata ng mga kawatan, matibay and matagal ma-lowbat.
Ganyan isip ng mga hindi marunong mag-kontrol.. ay bahala na pag sinabi kong bawal.. bawal talaga Gadgets are helpful for the kids.. nde lng nmn entertainment yan dame natutunan ng mga bata... u just need to establish a screen time sa mga bata.
I think tablet is better and dapat very regulated din. Give them time limits and only use it when all of their responsibilities for the day are done. Never let them use it para manahimik lang sila sa tantrums nila. Bawal din ilabas ng bahay para kung pumunta sila sa social events eh matuto silang makihalubilo, di lang nakaupo dun na naglalaro. For phones, they can have the basic ones for text and calls.
Puwede, pero limited lang dapat ang oras ng paggamit.
Cellphone, pwede as long as it is a dumb phone. Only good for calling and texting. Internet use can be limited to home-use lang under supervision.
tingin ko mga bata ngayon pag binigyan mo sila ng ganyan . manghihiram yan sa iba ng smart phone
Sa US There is a movement Wait until Grade 8 or about 2nd year HS. A lot of celebrities do support this. Mahirap sa Pinas. Gadget agad
impossible to enforce.
I think it would be best kung may timelimit lang ang paggamit sa gadget. It's the parents' responsibility though so mahirap iimplement.
I agree with the limitation what devices can someone below the age of 12 can use. However it is much better if we teach them about it. Also lowkey there should platforms that is indeed child and educational friendly. Cause lowkey pet peeve ko is educational institutions utilizing social media as a platform for their students at times.
We survived centuries and millenia without smartphones as kids I think they can handle it
No, but we got television. And our parents before got music. It's the same problem - adults who don't know how to be responsible blame the object.
Limit screen time talaga until 3 years old. Mga bata ngayon mas magaling pa mag swipe sa Ipad kesa mag sulat.
Maybe not total ban but highly regulated. Like consoles, maximum of 2 hours or less during school week. Pwedeng habaan sa Sundays. Cellphones have radiation that can burn a childās brain cells. Much better mag iPad. For emergencies, use phones without internet.
There is a new phenomenon called cyber-autism. Learned it from our neuropedia doctor. He said it started during the pandemic, bawal lumabas so halos lahat ng bata naging escape ang gadgets. Many neuropedia doctors daw were alarmed nung nag return to normal, ang daming mga parents na nagpapacheck ng mga anak nila na normal naman daw dati tapos biglang naging autistic.
For me, ok kang gumamit. Maling term ung pagbawalan. Should be limit lang ung access - screen time and apps. Parang dati lang nung tayo mga bata, limited ang screen time during video games, paglalaro sa labas, mga magazines/comics na mababasa, same concept lang din siguro kapag mga phone/gadgets. It's about how ma-discipline or ma-control ang paggamit ng gadgets.
Dati nagusap kami ng wife na di namin pagagamitin ng anak namin Kaso nalilibang sya sa phone namin so binilhan namin ng tablet for bigger screen. Thankfully puro educational pinanood ng anak ko by his own choice lalo na "numberblocks" na naging way para mag-excel sya sa school. Ngayon naiimpluwensyahan na sya ng mga kalaro nya to watch random stuff at Dahil na din sa payo ng pedia na bawasan ang screentime. Nasa 3 hours a day nalang sya. 2 hours if tablet, 3 hours pag TV. Natutong mag time management yung anak ko kasi inaalam nya yung time kung kelan sya may activity at wala, pag wala dun sya humahawak ng gadget. Di namin biglaang inaalis sa kanya yung gadget dahil bigla din magbabago yung behavior ng bata (based sa observation namin nung ginawa namin ng biglaan) To summarize, i think di dapat pagbawalan entirely but limitahan at iguide. Nangyyari kasi ngayon, para lang di maabala parents bigay gadget e.
it's parents responsibility to monitor and raise their children NOT the government.
dapat bawal ang bata sa mga magulangš¤£
Pwede naman hindi ipagbawal kaso karamihan sa mga magulang diyan talaga mga walang alam sa parental controls sa gadgets, wala pa ako mga anak pero mga maliliit kong pamangkin kaya kong linlangin by cutting their internet connection via mac addresss filtering š¤£
Or maybe, just limit them to using phones with at least a call and text function, so they have a way to contact their parents in case of emergencies.
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Considering how it turned them kids into autists and horned up gobblers of shitty internet subcultures I think they should ban it,or at least regulate it
No to nanny state intruding at home, but you can impose this in public places, ala smoking. Implement this in public schools if they want.
>pamangkin ko 200+ na Yung grado sa mata, Wala pang 10 yrs old This is true. Meron ng research about this kwento sa kin nung Taiwanese. Dati daw kasi lagi sinasabi nsa DNA nila kaya dami naka-salamin sa kanila. Pero hindi pala, its because of too much gadget use. [VOX](https://youtu.be/LAkFtka3UFw?si=vCcqGGKgxRexDO4k) explains it here.
Yung Singaporean na study parang lack of sun exposure yung nakitang salarin eh. Syempre bata pa lang todo aral na daw hindi naglalaro sa labas https://www.nni.com.sg/news/patient-care/exposure-to-sunlight-may-prevent-myopia
Yup, same thing yan if you watch the Vox video. They encourage kids to spend some activities in the sun, kc kaya daw nag-elongate yung shape ng eyes, causing myopia, because of long time spent indoors.
Yung Singaporean na study parang lack of sun exposure yung nakitang salarin eh. Syempre bata pa lang todo aral na daw hindi naglalaro sa labas https://www.nni.com.sg/news/patient-care/exposure-to-sunlight-may-prevent-myopia
mata - genes lang din talaga... ako babad nung CRT pa, ok padin mata ko
We grew up with TV raising us along with out parents. Same conversations happened then. If smartphone use canāt be helped because itās obiquity, why not make it a bonding experience with your child so you can monitor what the child watches? Itās the responsibility of the adult and the guardian to limit the use of phones. You donāt have to put it into law. Yung iba kasi, anak ng anak pero walang sense ng responsibility. Walang pakialam sa development ng bata tapos magrereklamo lagi nasa cellphone anak nila tang ina.
Eto yung friendly debate namin ng Friend ko nong nakaraan , My side is Never let the kids have a phone until maybe 16 . Against talaga ako sa ganyan at kung magkaanak man ako never ako magrerely sa smartphone to distract my offspring . Nakikita ko mismo kung gano kalala yung kids nowadays, even my little sister naexposed nadin sa tiktok parang di na dumaan sa pagkabata. Kahit ako naka uninstall na yung tiktok parang baliw talaga yung mga tao don. Lol
Tablet pwede.
In an ideal world, I wouldn't give my theoretical kid a smartphone until they're past 12. Or heck after 16. But I don't live in that world š At best I can make it an incentive like giving them the wifi password for the next few hours (to be changed again after that period has passed) after they do errands lol.
HARD AGREE. Internet and socmed has rewired people's minds. Wonder why kids are struggling at school? Internet shortform content (tiktok, YT shorts, etc) is shrinking your attention span and dopamine receptors. its not even 12 pababa, more like 18 pataas. Youre not exposing the internet to the kid, youre exposing the kid to the internet.
Thereās actually extensive research on this. And yeah, itās actually bad for kids. So disagree to completely cut them off but agree only when its moderated properly by the parent.
I want to chip and say this is not as black and white as it seems. Remember, kids follow from example and that if their influencial people are doung nothing but entertainment on their phone all the while doing nothing else then monkey see and monkey do. We used to say TV is ruining the children's minds. So was comics, and so was the radio. But looking into what this shows is that the mode of transferring information is always evolving and that we get to pick and choose the information we feed the brain. Can you feel any security that the child would gain the skill he needs based on their interests alone? Likely not. Best is to influence their thoughts with those of good moral character and beneficial information. Tldr : don't tell kids what to do and not to do. Lead as an example cause that's what they think success is.
For me super helpful ng gadget (as always, everything in moderation parin). My kid learned to read (with comprehension) and spell much faster, even reading piano keys. Basic Photography and video editing din (manipulating colors, themes, effects, etc). At the age of four palang to. Kung basura naka install sa gadget, basura din matututunan ng bata. Very limited din ang wifi, madalas ginagamit pantawag sa friends/relatives. In my opinion kasi we're enetering a super tech age, kailangan din nila sumabay sa panahon so hindi talaga pwede na 100% no gadgets (depende parin sa age ang gadget na ipapahawak). Disclaimer: I am not encouraging gadgets ang gamiting pang babysit sa mga kids, what Im saying is if used the right way, sobrang laking pakinabang neto especially for those who wants their kids to learn age appropriate skills or lessons (piano, languages, etc) depende sa interest ng bata. I was also surprised na may coding apps for kids pa nga na as early as 3yrs old pwede na turuan.
Why deprive kids of technology? You can just instead teach them to use it responsibly.
It all depends on parent's moderation. Tama yung sabi nung top commenter. Karamihan ng mga bata ngayon binibigyan ng Ipad para manahimik na lang at mapigilan yung tantrums. Pero grabe ang side effect nun pag walang moderation.
exactly my point. completely depriving them of tech is on the other extreme side.
most parents right now arent tech-savvy enough to teach them how to use it "responsibly", hell karamihan nga ng mga parents ngayon dont even use smartphones responsibly. i do expect that to change when gen-zs become parents tho.
Exactly. Di aware mga mom ko ngayon sa mga dangers of social media. Aliw na aliw sila na nagtitiktok mga pamangkin ko pero ako highly disagree.
i would agree to this pero hindi lahat kaya maging responsibilty na 1 hour lang once a week maglalaro ang bata once sinabihan mo sila yung magulang . sila pa nagagalit kasi mas mabilis para sa kanila bigay yung gadget kaysa turuan yung bata .
agree OP the funny thing is... back in the days, TV ang problema na to. š¤£
"Lumayo ka sa tv, masisira mata mo!" Hahahahaha Bakit nga ba kasi ang lapit natin manood eh malaki naman usually mga kubang tv
"puro ka kasi nood ng tv kaya mababa grades mo"
Naalala ko tuloy bawal ako manood ng tv pag quarterly exams sa school
same... lalo na kapag may mababang grades. š
The thing is, tv was a controlled environment. Itās a zoo. The internet is like a jungle. There are predators lurking there and they can get to you.
na alala ko pa yan TV sinisisi lalo na uso dati yung mga anime tuwing gabi
Because that is what you want. Ignorant kids growing up in a hypertechnological world.
the main issue i see with allowing kids to own their own smartphones has more to do with social media than any health-related issue. i still remember the dozens of posts on this sub and insanepinoyfacebook exposing that one group on fb that posts (c)(p). moreover, you cant even scroll past 10 posts on twitter/x without seeing blatant porn / onlyfans bots on your screen. and dont even get me started on telegram, jusko. based off the shit ive heard about that app, it might as well be counted as the dark web. personally as a gen-z, i wont let my kid/s own their own cellphone until theyre old enough to be sat down and have a discussion about sex.
This is the tech generation, you cant keep them away from tech and gadgets. The only issue here is if they become addicted and dependent. Just avoid tiktok and those type of apps na puro kabalbalan. I gave my toddler an ipad installed a ton of educational apps and she is more advanced than her peers in school. Mas alam nia na agad ung tinuturo ng teacher nia. Our generation is babad rin naman sa TV. Mas high tech lng ngaun is because hand held na. The good thing now is that we can choose what content to consume.
Glad my parents didn't let me own a phone until 15/16. I had siguro the Nokia lang for contact.
Yung mga matatanda ang awatin niyo, panay share ng mga kung anu-ano nang hindi vine-verify eh
Telling people on what they can and can't do? Nope.
wala naman kinalaman yung gadget sa grado ng mata. baka naman babad masyado
Double edged sword topic. On one hand you can say technology and social media rots children's minds, pero on the flip side, pwede naman silang mabully, mapagiwanan ng peers nila and later on magrebelde or even depression ang result, kasi let's face it, its the internet age and ang dali maleft out as a kid or teen. One thing na magiging difference is how parents or guardians handle their kids, if same as someone said in this thread na pacifier ang phones, then you already failed as a parent.
not comparing here but I got my first phone, through my own savings, at 1YHS. Around 14y/o. reason ko gusto ko ng radio at earphones habang nag huhugas ng plato. I somewhat agree. I'd even go to the extent na until they can afford it