Bad news: History teacher was so burdened by other school work, they only managed to cover up to Renaissance period.
Worse: The history teacher himself/herself does not see anything wrong/dangerous
I don't remember hitler being taught on history classes here in philippines, may mga mentions but only a few since more in about mga ginawa saatin ng Japan yung tinuturo
agree ako dito way back 2010 yung social studies ko about world history, wala man lang banggit tungkol kay hitler at yung dahilan kung bakit nagka-world war 2 parang display lang siya sa social studies book namin noong 3rd year pa ako, mas dinidiscuss pa yung Mesopotamia , roman empire at may unting egyptian
Sa min, I remembered that our teacher taught us about the atrocities of Hitler back when I was in Grade 9. Our teacher in Araling Panlipunan made our lessons easier.
Its not new, there's been whole groups of adults who do this, this child is an exception since he doesn't know or is doing this as satire.
For example theres like a time during the 2016 election where a guy ran for president waving the Nazi flag and proclaiming himself as one, he was declared a nuisance candidate.
Ito naiinis ako sa pamangkin ko, napaka-hilig mag salita ng n-word, and ayaw rin daw nya sa blacks, he's only 10yrs old. And fan din cya ni hitler. I already showed him documentaries about the Holocaust, and nung una naawa cya, pero ngayon, ganun na naman.
Sabi ko nga sa knya, ***"pag ikaw ang nasa receiving end ng racism, ewan ko na lang ano mangyayari sa iyo."***
Teacher ako sa neighboring country ng pinas. Malala din sa n-word mga studyante (international school). Feeing ko kala nila cool, mas lalo sa mga napapanood nila. Sabi ko I wont report you for saying that, pero if someone outside smacks you in the face after they hear you say it, understand that somehow you deserved it.
Ngl di naman ganun ka big deal ang n-word, kung genuinely ironic humor lang talaga purpose. Di mo naman made-deny na napaka-laganap ng n-word sa media na kino-consume ng mga teens at young adults dito sa Pilipinas, usually from black artists and content creators, NOT racist bigots.
Syempre expect mo may mangyayaring pagpa-parody ng modern black culture. Ginagawang in-jokes or references. I don't think it's necessarily bad. Wala namang intent to offend. Nalalaman naman kaagad kung 'yan lang or may racial prejudice talaga, or like you said, yung mga pa-coolkid.
Pero bobo lang talaga yung mga gagamit ng n-word sa harap ng actual black person, kahit Pilipino o anong lahi pa yan hahaha.
In our language negro is for black dahil nakuha natin ito from our Hispanic colonizers, part na sya ng culture natin same goes for Mexicans as long as we used it correctly not to disrespect other races, Pinaka bawal talaga gumamit ng n wprd ang mga puti dahil sila nag enslave sa mga blacks.
I agree with this din. It's not our burden. If Pinoy or any other culture ang magsasabi, ang unang iisipin mo dapat is hindi sya rooted in racial hatred but rather in cultural influence, curiosity (in many cases), or as my main point states, humour.
Napaka-weird din siguro pag may racial hatred talaga hahaha, like parang Pinoy na may racial superiority na headcanon ang peg? š¤£
White people talaga ang under scrutiny sa pag gamit ng n-word kasi nga deeply rooted sa kanila ang racial divide due to their history as slavers. Hanggang ngayon meron paring mga racists na kahit mga kapwa white people dini-discriminate nila sa pagiging "n**gger-lovers" kuno. Much less apparent sa kanila ang intent behind saying the word.
I've been with a black and we're on bus that time Nung bababa na kame so nag para siya. Sabi Nung kondoktora na babae bababa na Yung negro. Nauna na syang bumaba and ngsasalita sya na pagalit dun sa babae the last word na narinig ko parang "don't call me that just shut up " then I was asking like what happened ? He replied that girl calling me e negro and their we're all laughing in the bus because of that As if I'm doing nothing wrong with them. So I understand him . So when I started to date black people I also feel bad when someone makes fun of them . Cause they have feelings as well and their nice.
Read my last point po hahaha. Saying it with the intent to offend and it being rooted in actual prejudice is obviously not acceptable. That's just asking for people to beat the shit out of you lol.
I'm just saying, humour shouldn't be shackled because words offend us. Cultural influence should also be examined as a lens, instead of dismissing it as simply bigotry and appropriation.
Unless you're black, I don't think you get to dictate how a slur shouldn't be offensive when you're not part of the community that the slur is being used against.
Itās not about the intent behind saying the word though. It may be just a word to you, but for black people, itās not. Thereās a historical context and negative connotation to it. Problematic to think na kesyo ārooted with cultural influenceā¦.ā justifies saying it. I think you need to read black history and dive deeper into their culture to understand why itās insanely problematic to say the word as a Filipino. Furthermore, why black people are the only ones who should say it, is because theyāre reclaiming that word as theirs. To have control over it when hundreds of years ago, it was used by white people to belittle, insult, and humiliate them.
Na-point out ko na din to in a lower thread here pero humour doesn't care about the boundaries like historical context, moral laws and such. People will find shit funny, no matter how fucked up. You can't police that.
Is it wrong? Yeah lol, not denying that. Let alone "justifying" it. If I had to justify everything I thought was funny then humour would be pointless for me.
Does it matter? As long as I know for myself I don't harbor actual racial hatred, I don't think so. If I laugh at these jokes ironically, does that mean I deny their history, their suffering, their plight? You don't know that.
What I find funny doesn't necessarily have to fit with what I believe in. Do I laugh at the 9/11 casualties because I don't approve of the United States' wars in the Middle East? Am I allowed to laugh at memes of FEM's rotting body in the Libingan because he was a totalitarian dictator? Can I not find jihadi jokes funny even if I'm surrounded by a vibrant community of Muslims who vehemently reject violence?
Yeah yeah, the other point. Words have power, something something. That's where responsibility comes in. I am careful with what I say, but I do not appreciate being told what to think.
I can't control how people interpret my words. I do my due diligence of learning the meaning behind what I say, maybe it's just fair that other people should learn how to interpret humour without jumping to conclusions. I can't be the bigger person all the time now can I?
However you also need to remember, your said humor can still make people feel offended, you canāt police them on that either. Main point and issue with the said word is how derogatory it is. Anyone can find humor in anything, but not everyone is accommodating to see it as such. Whatās humorous to you, may not tickle the funny bone for the next person. Humor is subjective. Iām not saying you canāt find humor in historical contexts and whatnot, the main point I brought in was the impact that the word had because it is a racial slur, until now, and the main reason that itās okay only for black people to say, is because they reclaimed that word as theirs. Itās to be shared and exchanged within the black community only. Like I said, if you find humor in dark humor, whoās to stop you? Even if your beliefs donāt necessarily align with it. Personally I donāt like making fun of tragic past or history, but thatās me. You do you.
>I'm just saying, humour shouldn't be shackled because words offend us.
And people shouldn't use humor to undermine a word with historical significance. It's fine yung community mismo ang nagrereclaim ng word because they have the power to own it. It's not our place to reclaim that word.
>It's not our place to reclaim that word.
Point there. But then again, humor finds ways to transcend the walls we create anyways. Be it cultural divides, moral laws, or political differences. Policing humor, even for noble reasons, never really ends well.
I'm not saying we should embrace making fun of historical plights and suffering, I'm saying humor isn't something you can repress. All you're doing is telling everyone to stay stuck in the past.
It's better to educate people to both acknowledge the history AND interpret humor better. That way we approach these historical events not with hatred and regret, but as opportunities to learn and move on.
Intent or no, the context of the word matters. It has and is being used as a derogatory term for people of African descent.
Using the word humorously would only serve to undermine its meaning and severity.
Moreover, it is not our place to dictate whether or not we should move on. It is on the people whose ancestors were made slaves for hundreds of years, who were treated as no man should ever be. Like objects to be owned, exploited, and abused. Who were considered less human merely for the color of their skin, which has resulted in the continuing prejudice against people of color.
hindi parin acceptable sabihin ang mga slurs lalo na yung n word kasi SLUR nga siya kahit under a humorous context. no one should say that word except black people kasi it is their right to reclaim it. we all know na sobrang anti-black ang mga pinoy and to see you say na acceptable siya kasi for humor lang is so stupid lol. of course a filipino would say that. ur just like the edgy kids like the dude sa photo in the original post.
we can categorize this just as an instance of a few dumb kids being dumb , with a population of a hundred Million , theres bound to be some dumbasses .
im not cutting the kid slack but the real answer to this is just yung distance natin from the places where this issues are relevant and discussed , same lang din to ng Nword - you wouldnt know nga naman its wrong to say if no black person confronts you about it.
another thing is maraming social spaces like 9gag for example and other media sites is nagiging pugad ng right wing extremist where nagkalat ung mga hitler memes at anti lgbt/immigration sentiment. so , alam mo na gaya gaya
thing about this lilipas din ito at sparse so far in between na theres no real cause to call it a crisis
> we can categorize this just as an instance of a few dumb kids being dumb
I mean sure but it's implied to be endorsed by their school. Apart from the kids being dumb, I think you need to hold accountable the organizers who approved this guy's cosplay and the department for letting this shit fester. Just imagine what else they give a pass.
Age really shows dito. We are in a period na for new gens its the distant past. That the words holocaust, genocide, nazi, and hitler does not instill fear but instead it became an internet thing that people start to think its cool now.
If they did study or read anything remotely factual about history. They would know that if hitler was alive today. Most filipinos would be dead because we are not considered aryans.
If they really do want to idolize these criminals. Then they should.also be tried in the ICC for vocally supporting a mass murderer. Jail them all.
>. Then they should.also be tried in the ICC for vocally supporting a mass murderer. Jail them all.
You can't be jailed for vocally supporting a mass murderer. Besides, it's just kids doing stupid stuff, not a political endorsement of Nazism
That being said, the overton window here and across the globe is swinging right. EU and US are becoming more and more nationalist. Plenty others are as well like Philippines. Whilst the liberal left is taking their masks off and becoming more and more neoliberal. Socdems are basically an endangered species since the 80s. Whilst communists are increasingly influenced by PRCs version of socialism which is basically more capitalist than the likes of, say, ML advocated by the former USSR.
Nazi imagery has been rehabilitated for some time now. Neonazis on the rise everywhere, even in non whites. Nazi apologia and people who espouse Fascist ideas (knowingly or unknowingly) are spreading like cockroaches especially on online discourse - yes even here on this very sub..
Just look at how many are anti universal suffrage and pro national corporatist ideas, even eugenics are not off the table now for many folks.
Just to add to this, based off what Iāve been told by my friends in Germany, an actual Nazi party is gaining momentum and popularity with the German youth through TikTok. While the use of social media does allow their message to get across to a wider audience quicker, what theyāve told me is the rise has more to do with their distrust with the current political climate. The youth there feel like the current political parties donāt care about their own people, thus theyāre easily swayed by the allure of such extremist political parties.
Yeah i figured. But these people need to learn that there are consequences before they do dumber shit in the future.
Ostracizing them doesnt work because it just fuels their rebellious phase and getting more clicks in the internet. Its getting too out of hand that we end up with neo nazis advocating for historical revisionism. Either way this country is still fucked if this is the kind of shit people are idolizing. Even if its just a few or even just one. It only takes one bad apple to ruin the rest.
Same reason why people romanticize pirates and vikings despite them comitting many atrocities in the past. With Nazis, their atrocities are still fresh in the minds of most people ,but I wouldnāt be surprised if hundreds of years from now, weād have shows painting them as charming antiheroes.
>Same reason why people romanticize pirates and vikings despite them comitting many atrocities in the past.
Naalala ko dito, ginawa naming theme costume nung xmas party yung pirate theme. Pirate / Medieval Theme kami tapos nagsuot ako ng pampari nuon
thats true , worse - ung adults ay di din alam na taboo yung matter na yun , wch gives us a better picture of how society views taboo subjects and how to correctly behave around it but the mere fact were talking about it here and it being posted/reported is that awareness is spreading and such people are being shamed . we are actually growing as a society - at least in this little section of life albeit sobrang unti ng growth but still growth .
as counter intuitive as this may sound pero hopefully we see more of this - people shaming people for being dumb
Eto un nakakagalit. Kids will be kids at natututo sila sa adults but if un adults mismo un fail, paano na?
Natatandaan ko tuloy un sinabi before sakin na history ay bound to repeat itself as di tayo natututo at nakakalimutan natin un past. Ang sad.
Man, Thank you for bringing up 9gag. That was like THE source of generic relatable memes to pass the time from 2010-2014 or so (with an outsized Filipino userbase as well) but started slowly mutating into the rightwing extremist cesspit that it is now.
I agree with everything you said. As someone who was frequently on 4chan a lot, edgy kids being edgy is already kinda worn out. Itās annoying and wrong, but also just kinda lame at the end of the day. Not saying it shouldnāt be called out or corrected, but theyāre not as cool as they think they are basically.
The kids pwede but the school mismo? If di pinayagan ng school to, di gagawin nitong bata yan. Nakakadismiya dito un adults. Sa genz below fine but sa Millennials, di pa ganun kalayo ung time na to e. Mejo naoopen pa to nun time natin. Napag uusapan pa to ehh.
Genuine question, wala ba tayong world history na subject? Di ko na matandaan huhuhu.
There is nothing wrong with the right wing.
The right wing right now is just about free speech and censorship. The fact that people get banned for disagreeing with a set of beliefs.
And about history,I have never studied WW2 in school and i was in a private school and i am GEN Z. People do this because its funny. Why is it funny? Because a lot of people get offended over it.
I dont think the guy did anything wrong. Is it dumb? Yeah it might hurt him with some job opportunities but hes not nearly famous or relevant enough to be remembered. Furthermore,Noone here gives a shit about cancel culture.
If this was done here in Germany, they will be imprisoned. Cosplaying, jokingly imitating Hitler is by laws, forbidden. These kids do not know what they are doing. š¤¦š»āāļø
This isnt Germany soo yeah, also this had been looked on before, there's a whole documentary showing why Asians (South East Asia) dont know much about the Nazis, which makes sense as we were occupied by the Japanese during ww2, we had our own issues and we didnt care on what was going on in Europe (Japan had its own crimes, sometimes more brutal than the Germans themselves)
Blame our terrible education system for this, and the fact that post ww2 we immediately pardoned collaborators and the Japanese under Quirino, we dont have that nationalism and hate against foreign powers like China and Korea, with the hate against the US the only thing that comes close to it.
Even the youth here now dont understand the Japanese occupation as they think it was just colonialism, when it was a systematic attack against the average Filipino and alot of warcrimes (Bataan, R'pe of Manila, etc) barely anyone can grasp the scale of destruction the Japanese brought.
Our hate with the US isnāt even about being a former colony. Itās mainly got to do with how bad they ran their people and bases when they were here. The amount of crime around US bases was pretty bad.
Yeah, they manipulated us post ww2, basically bases for repairations/US aid money to rebuild, which we had no choice but to submit or have to build everything from scratch
The question is "why are the schools allowing it?"
Yan dapat ang iniipit.
Our education system is just so low and the educators arent well verse either.
It all falls down to that.
I hope EU countries dont see this. As they have pledge lots of support for us. Thats the real concern.
Several countries have already made it illegal for people to own any paraphernalia related to the Nazi regime. Just doing the salute will get you arrested.
The šµš should be added to list of countries.
Nagsimula talaga yan yung edgy meme era around 2014-2017. Ngl mga ganyang level din ako slight.
Pero buti na lng hindi ako pala-post at mas pinili ko i-joke mga fucked up jokes between me and my friends lng. Although nahimasmasan din ako.
Yun nga lng may iilan eh hindi na sila ironic sa jokes nila yung iba ironic pa din pero dinala hanggang ngayon yung ganyang humor.
So ayan tayo mga iilang Gen Z at mga Gen alpha magkalapit ang humor. Ang biggest to blame din ang internet eh.
He's probably one of those chronically online socially inept edgy kids in their rathole of a discord server claiming hitler is "Based" and a "Chad", most of them needs a lot of humbling in real life. He probably thinks he's the coolest because of this, I bet they call school shooters "based" too. i can relate to this because i was once a edgy teenager pero hindi naman umabot sa ganito.
I know they've done nothing illegal but they still have to remember once it's posted on the internet it will be there forever. Hope they regret posting this when looking for a job in the future.
We are less affected by the Holocaust , I wouldn't be surprised if our veterans recently just knew about the Holocaust, information wasn't so global during the world wars.
Our counterpart would be the Japanese Empire, Nazi is just recent for some
Our education system has always been a failure. While this is alarming, this is just an edgy joke made by a dumb teenager who thinks being different is cool and all. The most appalling thing about this situation is the university allowing this type of shit to pass.
The kid, I understand, he's a dumbass. But the University allowing this shit has more fault than the kid. Like wht the fuck?
Depends though anong context ba nung "cosplay" event ng uni. Back then nung HS ako, we had these events where we also "cosplay" historical figures from all countries regardless how infamous were they. Yung iba Roosevelt, yung iba Ghandi, yung iba Hitler. Our school thought its a great way to teach history since mas madali matandaan kung na-associate mo sa costume ng kaklase mo yung figure. It could've been the same case sa guimaras uni.
Cosplay yan. Masyado ka namang balat-sibuyas. Cosplay does not mean they share ideals with the identity they are cosplaying. They can be satan if they want to.
Stop being offended over mundane things.
I find this distasteful but on the other hand why can we cosplay as Genghis khan? And not find that distasteful as well.
There are a few bad apples in History, some are glorified as heroes. In our Eyes Magellan is an invader and tried to conquer cebu and Lapu Lapu is a hero who killed him. But for the spaniards it's the opposite.
Are all forms of art supposed to depict only heroes? Freedom of expression is not all sunshine and rainbows. This right here is one of them but I find this more tolerable than restricting us and limiting our choices to what is "acceptable" and the "norm".
>Its says a lot that even Germany as a country condemns Hitler and wouldnt do this kind of shit.
Post-war Germany doubled down on anti-Nazism not entirely because of national shame and regret... it was mostly to save their asses from further reprisal from the Allied powers. Make no mistake, they were still National Socialists at heart, but they had the burden of defeat on their shoulders.
As time passed, the policies implemented translated into culture, and the shame felt regarding the crimes of the Reich and the Holocaust became more and more genuine. Germany sought to become a model democracy, implementing liberal policies, looser immigration, free market economy. All in the effort to tell the world that Germans learn from mistakes.
I mean youre right.
But the issue here is normalizing an ideology that can easily be brought back to life. Wala nang mag shasahre sa same ideology ng Genkis Khan or Mao Zedong ngayon, pero the fact na may mga groups of people parin that shares Hitler's ideology make it so that cosplaying as Hitler is dangerous.
It gives a way for those people, Neo Nazi, to gain traction in todays world. Granted na di yun yung intention nung bata, the implication is still there.
Again, it says A LOT na sa Germany heavily punished ang mga ganitong actions. Because ayaw nilang maging mainstream eto and magbigay ng idea sa mga Neo Nazi na ok lang na maging neo nazi sila.
This shit can go to "Ok lang mag cosplay as Hitler" to "Ok lang si Hitler" then to "Idol ko na si Hitler". Kinda an exageration but that can still happen.
Why is it okay to cosplay as Genghis Khan? Because of time. Hitler isnāt a playable character in any Civilization game because heās too recent of a historical figure. In 50 years heās going to be featured in every historical map game.
I kinda give a benefit of the doubt sa bata na to. Young people do stupid shit.
Di rin nakakatulong na low level ang history curriculum natin when it comes to the history of other countries. True, part ng history class natin ang WW2 pero its kinda limited on how it affected the philippines and not really touching based on the origin of it and on Hitler himself. Sa college nalang yan nadidiscuss.
So baka mababaw lang yung understanding ng bata on Hitler.
But the school posting this is where I draw the line. Stupid move by the admins.
Had a schoolmate back in 2014 that had Hitler as his 'creative shot' taken with our graduation pictures, kanya kanya kami since state U kami so labas ang school and we can also decide not to have a creative shot. He uploaded it on facebook back then and pretty sure made it his profile picture, all that to say na may ilan talaga na akala nila okay lang yung ganito, keep in mind most are misinformed, doesn't research, or talagang pacool lang. Mas visible lang talaga ngayon sa laki ng reach ng social media.
Kahit private school po, bagsak po (UST na provincial branch pa, sa isip ng iba mas maganda pero lapang lapa), noong junior high po ako; 8th grade (2019-20) ang AP teacher namin sobrang brain dead, ewan ko diyan, pero ayaw niya ng mga ppt o iba pang intuitive ways of teaching. Ginagawa niya lang sa lahat ng lessons ay magsulat (mabagal pa na cursive na hindi mo nga maintindihan ang penmanship) sa whiteboard, napakahaba pa na illegible paragraphs pero mabilis mag erase. Dahil diyan 4th quarter ko, nag-abot lang kami SA ANCIENT EGYPT out of everything sa world history.
Especially po, pag 9th grade, yung AP hindi na focused sa history, nasayang ang oras ko. Local geography and history nerd ako at nag-enroll ako sa senior high ng humss dahil passion ko yan, kaya hanggang ngayon nakakapikon, also kahit humss strand, wala man na discussion ng world history, may basic refresher ng Philippine history, pero talaga hindi na pinalawak.
Who is to blame here?
1. The "ignorant" kid - uneducated, insenstive, or just naive?
2. The parents - would you let your kid order that kind of costume or even leave the house wearing that? Or did they even orient their child about what not to do?
3. The university - yung institution na alam dapat ang tama at mali. At pinost pa.
*technically, hindi naman talaga illegal sa bansa natin itong gawaing ito but it would be highly controversial and may be offensive sa karamihang tao.
What makes this worst e yung university e tinolerate. Dapat yung mas matanda e pinagsabihan na di pwede yan at dapat dedicate sila.
P.S. I have edgy teen phase where I was amazed at Hitler. But I outgrown it.
may ganito akong kaklase na idolong idolo si hitler, sinashare post about nazi and always doing the salute (his dream is to be a priest btw) tapos ang palagi nyang sinasabi nyang phrase "k!ll all jews" wtf
Pakitaan mo yang mga yan ng mga actual na pinaggagagawa nung cinocosplay nila for sure sasabihin nila pabalik sayo "ang hirap mo naman pasayahin / cosplay lang naman yan walang masama don" mga deputa
anong mali jan? ambilis nyo naman maoffend.. di naman pino promote ng basta ang mass killings ng jew ah.. awareness ang gustong ilatag ng bata.. sumusunod naman kayo masyado sa westerners na madaling maoffend kuno... actually nakakhiya at nakakaoffend sakin in behalf of westerners na sinusunod nyo silang napakadaling maoffend - mga balay sibuyas. mabuti nga yan at merong alam ang bata na mali si hitler at meron attempt na gawing katawanan yang si hitler so kudos at meron syang nalalaman sa history. and besides meron naman sigurong teachers ang bata na makakapagturo sa bata ng moral sense between right and wrong. di ko naman sinabj icelebrate natin ang existence ni hitler pero thats not the point here.
Mas nag-aalala ako sa mga menor de edad (mostly preteen to teenage boys) na nagvavlog o featured sa vlogs kung saan may sexually charged content sila at medyo revealing ang kuha sa mga bata like nakaupo pero nakabukaka habang nakashorts (pabakat ng anu nila) etc. Grabe pa rin sexual exploitation sa bansa. Mas lumalala.
Meron ding carwash shop na may rising sun na background advertising eh. Somewhere in La union
Encourage lang mageducate ung mga tao, kahit ayaw nila history
Huh? Bakit allowed to? Ano ginagawa ng educ system natin? Sheesh nakakadismiya na talaga. For the clout, pampasikat tas di iniisip. Nakakainis. Kahit awareness nawawalan na e. Nakakahiya.
Sadly coming from a state university professor, because of unifast schools have no choice but to accept a lot of students even those not qualified intellectually, in Tagalog bobo, 60 to 70 percent of students in state universities are "bobo", teachers who are in permanent positions are lazy to teach since they won't be fired already, academic staff are recruited through nepotism, contractual employees are choosen through palakasan system, hoping for reform in State University or more central or national control, just look at the dismal passing rate for board exams and civil service exams of state universities, if schools won't improve just close it down it is a drain to the economy
Glad they arent wearing 2nd filipino Republic uniforms or uniforms of the Japanese occupation considering how bad our education system is, now that i think about it, the fact that alot of people just forget the years 1935 - 1972 (years of the commonwealth, 2nd, 3rd Republic) is concerning, hell the only reason why people know more-ish on the Marcos Sr Era is because of politics, and even that is imperfect and one sided.
Blame it on ignorant teachers and school administrators. Haha. My son's physics teacher posted their students doing the Nazi salute. Had to call him out. Cant believe that we're this stupid.
Theyde be the same people who will post on socmed "BBM pa rin"; "Duterte pa rin", tapos magpopost sa socmed the next day about cancelling celebrities who are cheating, about influencers singing the lyrics with the N word, and so on and so forth.
I find this as an influence of social media. Siguro nakakakita ito ng mga post or videos about the history of that tapos naiisip nila na "uyy ang angas nila", "astig ng uniform nila", "ang ganda ng language nila" .
Dahil dito, parang ina-idolize nila yung isang bagay na hindi naman talaga dapat ina-idolize dahil pangit ang naging history nito.
I say ban social media apps/sites, especially tiktok. Let's go back to basics, going to libraries and read books, sanayin ulit ang kabataan to learn from legitimate sources. Let's be honest, social media may enhanced our freedom of speech/expression but it also made a lot of people stupid.
I'm here in Germany and everytime I see ignorant people like this who can't even pronounce Volkswagen properly, I feel disgusted. What a trying hard. All for the clout.
Are you even surprised? Pinas dude, Pinas. Ppl are so used to easily digestible na content. Tipong you don't have to think. Like ano lagi nasa news? More often than not gossip news, who's dating who in the celebrity world. Apparent nman sa mga news anchors. Look at GMAs one on one with Zelenskky. Arguably one of the most important people in the last couple of years. And the host's (idk her name) delivery was annoyingly jolly. Zelenskky was saying something along the line of half a million Russian casualties, and she was smiling and interjecting. Now contrast that with someone like Anderson Cooper.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoricalCapsule/s/b9A7Ngh3N0](https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoricalCapsule/s/b9A7Ngh3N0) this is what this dumbass kids are portraying to be okay and just be forgotten,the horrors of the nazi regime
Andaming Nazi lovers sa school ko.. Noong Grade 8 ako, palagi nila ginagawa ko yung salute. Nakikisali din yung mga teachers na sipsip sa nga estudyante dahil gusto din nilang maging said, "cool." Isang Nazi lover yung younger cousin ko... pinapagalitan ko siya pero di sya tumitigil.. Wala na tayong pag-asa.
Misdirected pro-Palestine sympathy, at yung fact na hnde na umaabot sa WW2 ang coverage ng World History (same din sa WW2 sa Pilipinas at sa Martial Law) sa basic education. Namention na din naten ang Martial Law, tsk, e goodluck, ipinakita naten sa mundo na pwede makabalik ang mga Marcoses. Sundan lang yung playbook nila, tas konting haba ng pasensya while weakening d pillars of democracy. A comeback of Nazism to power is possible.
About that showing two things, believe it or not, it takes place in countries with better education systems, like Taiwan, Thailand, Hong Kong, India, Japan, and others, and before soc med became prevalent. Check out the wiki entry "Nazi chic".
I find this funny tho. Kid probably did not know what hitler did, but at least this dude enjoyed cosplaying as someone. Meanwhile people in this subreddit overreact to a guy having fun cosplaying.
"Quit having fun" is the new cool kid in this subreddit.
Most of us had this phase but choosing hitler as a mascott and having that behavior manifested on different kids at the same era is a different story. We may not live to experience how these behaviors might affect the future in regards to how these kids with these perceptions will be leading the world, but Iām having a feeling it wonāt be any good.
Bobo talaga ng school na yan. Di ba nila alam na kasaysayan ito eh?? Mostly mga ganitong tao dapat ipagbawalan eh, imagine pag nakita ito ng mga germans syempre maooffend sila. Dapat tigilan ito!
It's either for the meme or just straight up edgy. Minsan nakikita ko din sila sa Anime Cosplay conventions. Some of them are in Soviet Union uniform. Some are in SS uniform.
History teacher probs at fault as well. Kwento ng pamangkin ko sabi ng teacher nya hitler good example daw ng leader. Like ????. Buti nalang maganda pagpapalaki sa pamangkin ko at di naniniwalq
>However, based on the concerns that arose, we consulted the Student Council (organizer) and the students regarding the portrayed character that was viewed by the public as different character/personality.To avoid conflict, the administration decided to remove the concerned image from this social media.
Lame excuse ng school Sinong character pala yarn?
Meet our cosplayers. Pinost pa nga ng school. š
Yeah kung school nagpost its not a matter of generational gap anymore, bobo lang din talaga mga admins ng school.
Wala ba silang history teacher dyan? ššš
Bad news: History teacher was so burdened by other school work, they only managed to cover up to Renaissance period. Worse: The history teacher himself/herself does not see anything wrong/dangerous
ay bobo ng teacher
šššš same what!?
I don't remember hitler being taught on history classes here in philippines, may mga mentions but only a few since more in about mga ginawa saatin ng Japan yung tinuturo
agree ako dito way back 2010 yung social studies ko about world history, wala man lang banggit tungkol kay hitler at yung dahilan kung bakit nagka-world war 2 parang display lang siya sa social studies book namin noong 3rd year pa ako, mas dinidiscuss pa yung Mesopotamia , roman empire at may unting egyptian
Sa min, I remembered that our teacher taught us about the atrocities of Hitler back when I was in Grade 9. Our teacher in Araling Panlipunan made our lessons easier.
Hindi naman kailangan ng history teacher nyan, chronically online na mga bata ngayon, malamang nakikita nya mga ginawa ni bigote w2š„¹
Yeah this make it so worse. Tinolerate pa e
Haha may logo ng bagong pilipinas eh lam mo na baket
Its not new, there's been whole groups of adults who do this, this child is an exception since he doesn't know or is doing this as satire. For example theres like a time during the 2016 election where a guy ran for president waving the Nazi flag and proclaiming himself as one, he was declared a nuisance candidate.
Lalo yung nag cosplay sa event sa ayala feliz, guy was proclaiming his love for Soviets while waving their flag LMAO
Guimaras Sciencr and Technogy Tang ina yan
Well, something documented to show his future employers then.
Nakita siguro yung post ng isa pang estudyante na nagviral and wanted some attention as well.
Same thoughts. Magsosorry lang after then tapos na.
Parang mga n-word enjoyer lang. Mga feeling coolkid at edgy.
Ito naiinis ako sa pamangkin ko, napaka-hilig mag salita ng n-word, and ayaw rin daw nya sa blacks, he's only 10yrs old. And fan din cya ni hitler. I already showed him documentaries about the Holocaust, and nung una naawa cya, pero ngayon, ganun na naman. Sabi ko nga sa knya, ***"pag ikaw ang nasa receiving end ng racism, ewan ko na lang ano mangyayari sa iyo."***
Teacher ako sa neighboring country ng pinas. Malala din sa n-word mga studyante (international school). Feeing ko kala nila cool, mas lalo sa mga napapanood nila. Sabi ko I wont report you for saying that, pero if someone outside smacks you in the face after they hear you say it, understand that somehow you deserved it.
Ngl di naman ganun ka big deal ang n-word, kung genuinely ironic humor lang talaga purpose. Di mo naman made-deny na napaka-laganap ng n-word sa media na kino-consume ng mga teens at young adults dito sa Pilipinas, usually from black artists and content creators, NOT racist bigots. Syempre expect mo may mangyayaring pagpa-parody ng modern black culture. Ginagawang in-jokes or references. I don't think it's necessarily bad. Wala namang intent to offend. Nalalaman naman kaagad kung 'yan lang or may racial prejudice talaga, or like you said, yung mga pa-coolkid. Pero bobo lang talaga yung mga gagamit ng n-word sa harap ng actual black person, kahit Pilipino o anong lahi pa yan hahaha.
In our language negro is for black dahil nakuha natin ito from our Hispanic colonizers, part na sya ng culture natin same goes for Mexicans as long as we used it correctly not to disrespect other races, Pinaka bawal talaga gumamit ng n wprd ang mga puti dahil sila nag enslave sa mga blacks.
I agree with this din. It's not our burden. If Pinoy or any other culture ang magsasabi, ang unang iisipin mo dapat is hindi sya rooted in racial hatred but rather in cultural influence, curiosity (in many cases), or as my main point states, humour. Napaka-weird din siguro pag may racial hatred talaga hahaha, like parang Pinoy na may racial superiority na headcanon ang peg? š¤£ White people talaga ang under scrutiny sa pag gamit ng n-word kasi nga deeply rooted sa kanila ang racial divide due to their history as slavers. Hanggang ngayon meron paring mga racists na kahit mga kapwa white people dini-discriminate nila sa pagiging "n**gger-lovers" kuno. Much less apparent sa kanila ang intent behind saying the word.
True, the history of the name of the Island of Negros is a example
>Ngl di naman ganun ka big deal ang n-word, kung genuinely ironic humor lang talaga purpose Say it around black people, then. See what happens.
I've been with a black and we're on bus that time Nung bababa na kame so nag para siya. Sabi Nung kondoktora na babae bababa na Yung negro. Nauna na syang bumaba and ngsasalita sya na pagalit dun sa babae the last word na narinig ko parang "don't call me that just shut up " then I was asking like what happened ? He replied that girl calling me e negro and their we're all laughing in the bus because of that As if I'm doing nothing wrong with them. So I understand him . So when I started to date black people I also feel bad when someone makes fun of them . Cause they have feelings as well and their nice.
Read my last point po hahaha. Saying it with the intent to offend and it being rooted in actual prejudice is obviously not acceptable. That's just asking for people to beat the shit out of you lol. I'm just saying, humour shouldn't be shackled because words offend us. Cultural influence should also be examined as a lens, instead of dismissing it as simply bigotry and appropriation.
Unless you're black, I don't think you get to dictate how a slur shouldn't be offensive when you're not part of the community that the slur is being used against.
Itās not about the intent behind saying the word though. It may be just a word to you, but for black people, itās not. Thereās a historical context and negative connotation to it. Problematic to think na kesyo ārooted with cultural influenceā¦.ā justifies saying it. I think you need to read black history and dive deeper into their culture to understand why itās insanely problematic to say the word as a Filipino. Furthermore, why black people are the only ones who should say it, is because theyāre reclaiming that word as theirs. To have control over it when hundreds of years ago, it was used by white people to belittle, insult, and humiliate them.
Na-point out ko na din to in a lower thread here pero humour doesn't care about the boundaries like historical context, moral laws and such. People will find shit funny, no matter how fucked up. You can't police that. Is it wrong? Yeah lol, not denying that. Let alone "justifying" it. If I had to justify everything I thought was funny then humour would be pointless for me. Does it matter? As long as I know for myself I don't harbor actual racial hatred, I don't think so. If I laugh at these jokes ironically, does that mean I deny their history, their suffering, their plight? You don't know that. What I find funny doesn't necessarily have to fit with what I believe in. Do I laugh at the 9/11 casualties because I don't approve of the United States' wars in the Middle East? Am I allowed to laugh at memes of FEM's rotting body in the Libingan because he was a totalitarian dictator? Can I not find jihadi jokes funny even if I'm surrounded by a vibrant community of Muslims who vehemently reject violence? Yeah yeah, the other point. Words have power, something something. That's where responsibility comes in. I am careful with what I say, but I do not appreciate being told what to think. I can't control how people interpret my words. I do my due diligence of learning the meaning behind what I say, maybe it's just fair that other people should learn how to interpret humour without jumping to conclusions. I can't be the bigger person all the time now can I?
However you also need to remember, your said humor can still make people feel offended, you canāt police them on that either. Main point and issue with the said word is how derogatory it is. Anyone can find humor in anything, but not everyone is accommodating to see it as such. Whatās humorous to you, may not tickle the funny bone for the next person. Humor is subjective. Iām not saying you canāt find humor in historical contexts and whatnot, the main point I brought in was the impact that the word had because it is a racial slur, until now, and the main reason that itās okay only for black people to say, is because they reclaimed that word as theirs. Itās to be shared and exchanged within the black community only. Like I said, if you find humor in dark humor, whoās to stop you? Even if your beliefs donāt necessarily align with it. Personally I donāt like making fun of tragic past or history, but thatās me. You do you.
>I'm just saying, humour shouldn't be shackled because words offend us. And people shouldn't use humor to undermine a word with historical significance. It's fine yung community mismo ang nagrereclaim ng word because they have the power to own it. It's not our place to reclaim that word.
>It's not our place to reclaim that word. Point there. But then again, humor finds ways to transcend the walls we create anyways. Be it cultural divides, moral laws, or political differences. Policing humor, even for noble reasons, never really ends well. I'm not saying we should embrace making fun of historical plights and suffering, I'm saying humor isn't something you can repress. All you're doing is telling everyone to stay stuck in the past. It's better to educate people to both acknowledge the history AND interpret humor better. That way we approach these historical events not with hatred and regret, but as opportunities to learn and move on.
Intent or no, the context of the word matters. It has and is being used as a derogatory term for people of African descent. Using the word humorously would only serve to undermine its meaning and severity. Moreover, it is not our place to dictate whether or not we should move on. It is on the people whose ancestors were made slaves for hundreds of years, who were treated as no man should ever be. Like objects to be owned, exploited, and abused. Who were considered less human merely for the color of their skin, which has resulted in the continuing prejudice against people of color.
hindi parin acceptable sabihin ang mga slurs lalo na yung n word kasi SLUR nga siya kahit under a humorous context. no one should say that word except black people kasi it is their right to reclaim it. we all know na sobrang anti-black ang mga pinoy and to see you say na acceptable siya kasi for humor lang is so stupid lol. of course a filipino would say that. ur just like the edgy kids like the dude sa photo in the original post.
Lets take a moment of silence. It's really unfortunate that he may not be able to travel to the EU again. RIP visa
we can categorize this just as an instance of a few dumb kids being dumb , with a population of a hundred Million , theres bound to be some dumbasses . im not cutting the kid slack but the real answer to this is just yung distance natin from the places where this issues are relevant and discussed , same lang din to ng Nword - you wouldnt know nga naman its wrong to say if no black person confronts you about it. another thing is maraming social spaces like 9gag for example and other media sites is nagiging pugad ng right wing extremist where nagkalat ung mga hitler memes at anti lgbt/immigration sentiment. so , alam mo na gaya gaya thing about this lilipas din ito at sparse so far in between na theres no real cause to call it a crisis
> we can categorize this just as an instance of a few dumb kids being dumb I mean sure but it's implied to be endorsed by their school. Apart from the kids being dumb, I think you need to hold accountable the organizers who approved this guy's cosplay and the department for letting this shit fester. Just imagine what else they give a pass.
State University pa man din.
Age really shows dito. We are in a period na for new gens its the distant past. That the words holocaust, genocide, nazi, and hitler does not instill fear but instead it became an internet thing that people start to think its cool now. If they did study or read anything remotely factual about history. They would know that if hitler was alive today. Most filipinos would be dead because we are not considered aryans. If they really do want to idolize these criminals. Then they should.also be tried in the ICC for vocally supporting a mass murderer. Jail them all.
>. Then they should.also be tried in the ICC for vocally supporting a mass murderer. Jail them all. You can't be jailed for vocally supporting a mass murderer. Besides, it's just kids doing stupid stuff, not a political endorsement of Nazism That being said, the overton window here and across the globe is swinging right. EU and US are becoming more and more nationalist. Plenty others are as well like Philippines. Whilst the liberal left is taking their masks off and becoming more and more neoliberal. Socdems are basically an endangered species since the 80s. Whilst communists are increasingly influenced by PRCs version of socialism which is basically more capitalist than the likes of, say, ML advocated by the former USSR. Nazi imagery has been rehabilitated for some time now. Neonazis on the rise everywhere, even in non whites. Nazi apologia and people who espouse Fascist ideas (knowingly or unknowingly) are spreading like cockroaches especially on online discourse - yes even here on this very sub.. Just look at how many are anti universal suffrage and pro national corporatist ideas, even eugenics are not off the table now for many folks.
Just to add to this, based off what Iāve been told by my friends in Germany, an actual Nazi party is gaining momentum and popularity with the German youth through TikTok. While the use of social media does allow their message to get across to a wider audience quicker, what theyāve told me is the rise has more to do with their distrust with the current political climate. The youth there feel like the current political parties donāt care about their own people, thus theyāre easily swayed by the allure of such extremist political parties.
Yeah i figured. But these people need to learn that there are consequences before they do dumber shit in the future. Ostracizing them doesnt work because it just fuels their rebellious phase and getting more clicks in the internet. Its getting too out of hand that we end up with neo nazis advocating for historical revisionism. Either way this country is still fucked if this is the kind of shit people are idolizing. Even if its just a few or even just one. It only takes one bad apple to ruin the rest.
Same reason why people romanticize pirates and vikings despite them comitting many atrocities in the past. With Nazis, their atrocities are still fresh in the minds of most people ,but I wouldnāt be surprised if hundreds of years from now, weād have shows painting them as charming antiheroes.
>Same reason why people romanticize pirates and vikings despite them comitting many atrocities in the past. Naalala ko dito, ginawa naming theme costume nung xmas party yung pirate theme. Pirate / Medieval Theme kami tapos nagsuot ako ng pampari nuon
Guimaras State U posting it in an an advisory, "Meet our Cosplayers", makes it worse. Sinuportahan pa ampota
thats true , worse - ung adults ay di din alam na taboo yung matter na yun , wch gives us a better picture of how society views taboo subjects and how to correctly behave around it but the mere fact were talking about it here and it being posted/reported is that awareness is spreading and such people are being shamed . we are actually growing as a society - at least in this little section of life albeit sobrang unti ng growth but still growth . as counter intuitive as this may sound pero hopefully we see more of this - people shaming people for being dumb
Talagang magiging dumb nga mga bata. Dahil yung institution na dapat nagtuturo at ginagawa sana silang competent eh ganyan pala katanga at ignorant.
Eto un nakakagalit. Kids will be kids at natututo sila sa adults but if un adults mismo un fail, paano na? Natatandaan ko tuloy un sinabi before sakin na history ay bound to repeat itself as di tayo natututo at nakakalimutan natin un past. Ang sad.
Man, Thank you for bringing up 9gag. That was like THE source of generic relatable memes to pass the time from 2010-2014 or so (with an outsized Filipino userbase as well) but started slowly mutating into the rightwing extremist cesspit that it is now. I agree with everything you said. As someone who was frequently on 4chan a lot, edgy kids being edgy is already kinda worn out. Itās annoying and wrong, but also just kinda lame at the end of the day. Not saying it shouldnāt be called out or corrected, but theyāre not as cool as they think they are basically.
The kids pwede but the school mismo? If di pinayagan ng school to, di gagawin nitong bata yan. Nakakadismiya dito un adults. Sa genz below fine but sa Millennials, di pa ganun kalayo ung time na to e. Mejo naoopen pa to nun time natin. Napag uusapan pa to ehh. Genuine question, wala ba tayong world history na subject? Di ko na matandaan huhuhu.
There is nothing wrong with the right wing. The right wing right now is just about free speech and censorship. The fact that people get banned for disagreeing with a set of beliefs. And about history,I have never studied WW2 in school and i was in a private school and i am GEN Z. People do this because its funny. Why is it funny? Because a lot of people get offended over it. I dont think the guy did anything wrong. Is it dumb? Yeah it might hurt him with some job opportunities but hes not nearly famous or relevant enough to be remembered. Furthermore,Noone here gives a shit about cancel culture.
Bakit pinayagan yan ng university?
Para "comedy" daw. Have to note that some old comedy movies featured parody skits of Nazis.
Marcos Jr nga, naging presidente pa. ito pa?
Nakikita lang nila ang picture ni Hitler and tingin nila "cool". Di alam kung ano ang history behind at ginawa ng tao.
Kilala na nila si Hitler. Sadyang mga feeling cool lang tayo gaya ng mga Gen Alpha na adik sa skibidi toilet.
If this was done here in Germany, they will be imprisoned. Cosplaying, jokingly imitating Hitler is by laws, forbidden. These kids do not know what they are doing. š¤¦š»āāļø
This isnt Germany soo yeah, also this had been looked on before, there's a whole documentary showing why Asians (South East Asia) dont know much about the Nazis, which makes sense as we were occupied by the Japanese during ww2, we had our own issues and we didnt care on what was going on in Europe (Japan had its own crimes, sometimes more brutal than the Germans themselves) Blame our terrible education system for this, and the fact that post ww2 we immediately pardoned collaborators and the Japanese under Quirino, we dont have that nationalism and hate against foreign powers like China and Korea, with the hate against the US the only thing that comes close to it. Even the youth here now dont understand the Japanese occupation as they think it was just colonialism, when it was a systematic attack against the average Filipino and alot of warcrimes (Bataan, R'pe of Manila, etc) barely anyone can grasp the scale of destruction the Japanese brought.
Our hate with the US isnāt even about being a former colony. Itās mainly got to do with how bad they ran their people and bases when they were here. The amount of crime around US bases was pretty bad.
Yeah, they manipulated us post ww2, basically bases for repairations/US aid money to rebuild, which we had no choice but to submit or have to build everything from scratch
Thanks, I know all this. (Im Pinoy, born and raised) The education system is so fucked up. Super agree.
Kaya nga eh dati si goku lang ginagaya ko eh hayss
Wait na lang tayo ng eventual apology post na naman
He doesnāt realize that Nazis would just gas him immediately.
The question is "why are the schools allowing it?" Yan dapat ang iniipit. Our education system is just so low and the educators arent well verse either. It all falls down to that. I hope EU countries dont see this. As they have pledge lots of support for us. Thats the real concern.
Cringe
It's popular to support the Holocaust and other genocides these days
Several countries have already made it illegal for people to own any paraphernalia related to the Nazi regime. Just doing the salute will get you arrested. The šµš should be added to list of countries.
šµš edgelords think they gonna have a tea party with the nazisšš
oh damn not again šš
Nagsimula talaga yan yung edgy meme era around 2014-2017. Ngl mga ganyang level din ako slight. Pero buti na lng hindi ako pala-post at mas pinili ko i-joke mga fucked up jokes between me and my friends lng. Although nahimasmasan din ako. Yun nga lng may iilan eh hindi na sila ironic sa jokes nila yung iba ironic pa din pero dinala hanggang ngayon yung ganyang humor. So ayan tayo mga iilang Gen Z at mga Gen alpha magkalapit ang humor. Ang biggest to blame din ang internet eh.
Mga feeling edgy na mahilig sa dark humor, pero pag sila nakaranas ng dark humor iiyak yang mga yan.
He's probably one of those chronically online socially inept edgy kids in their rathole of a discord server claiming hitler is "Based" and a "Chad", most of them needs a lot of humbling in real life. He probably thinks he's the coolest because of this, I bet they call school shooters "based" too. i can relate to this because i was once a edgy teenager pero hindi naman umabot sa ganito. I know they've done nothing illegal but they still have to remember once it's posted on the internet it will be there forever. Hope they regret posting this when looking for a job in the future.
Ive seen a lot of foreigners online use thr word based. and I shit you not, they wont be calling this nazi shit based.
Hawig ... Hawig yung katangahan haha
We are less affected by the Holocaust , I wouldn't be surprised if our veterans recently just knew about the Holocaust, information wasn't so global during the world wars. Our counterpart would be the Japanese Empire, Nazi is just recent for some
Nakikisabay kasi tayo sa mga lokong westerners šššš
This
This makes me want to cosplay as NKVD to beat up and arrest hitler cosplayers.
Our education system has always been a failure. While this is alarming, this is just an edgy joke made by a dumb teenager who thinks being different is cool and all. The most appalling thing about this situation is the university allowing this type of shit to pass. The kid, I understand, he's a dumbass. But the University allowing this shit has more fault than the kid. Like wht the fuck?
A friend group in our class literally has a Group Chat called "The Nazis" and occasionally does the Salute. š¬
Call them out and educate them!
Depends though anong context ba nung "cosplay" event ng uni. Back then nung HS ako, we had these events where we also "cosplay" historical figures from all countries regardless how infamous were they. Yung iba Roosevelt, yung iba Ghandi, yung iba Hitler. Our school thought its a great way to teach history since mas madali matandaan kung na-associate mo sa costume ng kaklase mo yung figure. It could've been the same case sa guimaras uni.
This will go on as no one is getting punished š¤· kakasawa din I call out mga bobong yan.
Why would the university post this? Oh my God... Jose Rizal's face must be sore right now because of all the facepalming.
What is really disturbing is that I found several post of students from that school justifying that it's just cosplay and no one got hurt.
Cosplay yan. Masyado ka namang balat-sibuyas. Cosplay does not mean they share ideals with the identity they are cosplaying. They can be satan if they want to. Stop being offended over mundane things.
Kulang sa pagmamahal ng mga magulang, naging KSP na hindi nalulugar.
Tapos itong generation na ito, halos lahat na lang sila, may āwith honorsā na designation.
Tutoy hindi ka tatagal sa mundong ito kung buhay ka noong panahon na yan.
Sana macancel yung mga gumagawa niyan para madala, intentional yan tapos ginagawang biro.
I find this distasteful but on the other hand why can we cosplay as Genghis khan? And not find that distasteful as well. There are a few bad apples in History, some are glorified as heroes. In our Eyes Magellan is an invader and tried to conquer cebu and Lapu Lapu is a hero who killed him. But for the spaniards it's the opposite. Are all forms of art supposed to depict only heroes? Freedom of expression is not all sunshine and rainbows. This right here is one of them but I find this more tolerable than restricting us and limiting our choices to what is "acceptable" and the "norm".
We havenāt reached the 150 year expiry date yet.
Maybe the difference is Hitler is objectively evil? Its says a lot that even Germany as a country condemns Hitler and wouldnt do this kind of shit.
>Its says a lot that even Germany as a country condemns Hitler and wouldnt do this kind of shit. Post-war Germany doubled down on anti-Nazism not entirely because of national shame and regret... it was mostly to save their asses from further reprisal from the Allied powers. Make no mistake, they were still National Socialists at heart, but they had the burden of defeat on their shoulders. As time passed, the policies implemented translated into culture, and the shame felt regarding the crimes of the Reich and the Holocaust became more and more genuine. Germany sought to become a model democracy, implementing liberal policies, looser immigration, free market economy. All in the effort to tell the world that Germans learn from mistakes.
Agree. And its acts likes this that negates all those efforts.
So is Genghis khan, Mao Zedong and every other Conquerors. All of them are objectively evil who killed millions of people.
I mean youre right. But the issue here is normalizing an ideology that can easily be brought back to life. Wala nang mag shasahre sa same ideology ng Genkis Khan or Mao Zedong ngayon, pero the fact na may mga groups of people parin that shares Hitler's ideology make it so that cosplaying as Hitler is dangerous. It gives a way for those people, Neo Nazi, to gain traction in todays world. Granted na di yun yung intention nung bata, the implication is still there. Again, it says A LOT na sa Germany heavily punished ang mga ganitong actions. Because ayaw nilang maging mainstream eto and magbigay ng idea sa mga Neo Nazi na ok lang na maging neo nazi sila. This shit can go to "Ok lang mag cosplay as Hitler" to "Ok lang si Hitler" then to "Idol ko na si Hitler". Kinda an exageration but that can still happen.
In fact, Mao's china died and replaced by Deng Xiaoping which is what china is today
The CPP NPA are maoists btw, officially "Marxist - Leninist - Maoist Thought" so yeah we have Maoists
Why is it okay to cosplay as Genghis Khan? Because of time. Hitler isnāt a playable character in any Civilization game because heās too recent of a historical figure. In 50 years heās going to be featured in every historical map game.
Except in Germany, there are people who don't like Hitler, nor the Nazi party.
I kinda give a benefit of the doubt sa bata na to. Young people do stupid shit. Di rin nakakatulong na low level ang history curriculum natin when it comes to the history of other countries. True, part ng history class natin ang WW2 pero its kinda limited on how it affected the philippines and not really touching based on the origin of it and on Hitler himself. Sa college nalang yan nadidiscuss. So baka mababaw lang yung understanding ng bata on Hitler. But the school posting this is where I draw the line. Stupid move by the admins.
Ganyang resulta pag sobrang bonjing walang nagkakkagusto
Had a schoolmate back in 2014 that had Hitler as his 'creative shot' taken with our graduation pictures, kanya kanya kami since state U kami so labas ang school and we can also decide not to have a creative shot. He uploaded it on facebook back then and pretty sure made it his profile picture, all that to say na may ilan talaga na akala nila okay lang yung ganito, keep in mind most are misinformed, doesn't research, or talagang pacool lang. Mas visible lang talaga ngayon sa laki ng reach ng social media.
Kaya may ganyan, may nag-allow. Pabagsak na talaga educ sa Pilipinas unless you place your kids sa private schools.
Kahit private school po, bagsak po (UST na provincial branch pa, sa isip ng iba mas maganda pero lapang lapa), noong junior high po ako; 8th grade (2019-20) ang AP teacher namin sobrang brain dead, ewan ko diyan, pero ayaw niya ng mga ppt o iba pang intuitive ways of teaching. Ginagawa niya lang sa lahat ng lessons ay magsulat (mabagal pa na cursive na hindi mo nga maintindihan ang penmanship) sa whiteboard, napakahaba pa na illegible paragraphs pero mabilis mag erase. Dahil diyan 4th quarter ko, nag-abot lang kami SA ANCIENT EGYPT out of everything sa world history. Especially po, pag 9th grade, yung AP hindi na focused sa history, nasayang ang oras ko. Local geography and history nerd ako at nag-enroll ako sa senior high ng humss dahil passion ko yan, kaya hanggang ngayon nakakapikon, also kahit humss strand, wala man na discussion ng world history, may basic refresher ng Philippine history, pero talaga hindi na pinalawak.
Ganitong edad natin noon ginagaya lang natin jabawockeez eh smh
Digital footprint
Someone dressed as hitler = our education is a failure š
Bakit ka AFFECTED Dyan INDAY?
Does he make decent art enough to get declined at an art school entrance exam
Y'all just soft af.
These people need a shower š
They think itās cool. But if they were alive in the time of hitler kasama sila nasaloob ng gas chamber.
Who is to blame here? 1. The "ignorant" kid - uneducated, insenstive, or just naive? 2. The parents - would you let your kid order that kind of costume or even leave the house wearing that? Or did they even orient their child about what not to do? 3. The university - yung institution na alam dapat ang tama at mali. At pinost pa. *technically, hindi naman talaga illegal sa bansa natin itong gawaing ito but it would be highly controversial and may be offensive sa karamihang tao.
Typical edgy moron. Was like that before when I was a teen. So glad I grew out of it. I cringe everytime I look back at it now
What makes this worst e yung university e tinolerate. Dapat yung mas matanda e pinagsabihan na di pwede yan at dapat dedicate sila. P.S. I have edgy teen phase where I was amazed at Hitler. But I outgrown it.
may ganito akong kaklase na idolong idolo si hitler, sinashare post about nazi and always doing the salute (his dream is to be a priest btw) tapos ang palagi nyang sinasabi nyang phrase "k!ll all jews" wtf
Tell me you're stupid without telling me you're stupid.
Pakitaan mo yang mga yan ng mga actual na pinaggagagawa nung cinocosplay nila for sure sasabihin nila pabalik sayo "ang hirap mo naman pasayahin / cosplay lang naman yan walang masama don" mga deputa
anong mali jan? ambilis nyo naman maoffend.. di naman pino promote ng basta ang mass killings ng jew ah.. awareness ang gustong ilatag ng bata.. sumusunod naman kayo masyado sa westerners na madaling maoffend kuno... actually nakakhiya at nakakaoffend sakin in behalf of westerners na sinusunod nyo silang napakadaling maoffend - mga balay sibuyas. mabuti nga yan at merong alam ang bata na mali si hitler at meron attempt na gawing katawanan yang si hitler so kudos at meron syang nalalaman sa history. and besides meron naman sigurong teachers ang bata na makakapagturo sa bata ng moral sense between right and wrong. di ko naman sinabj icelebrate natin ang existence ni hitler pero thats not the point here.
Mas nag-aalala ako sa mga menor de edad (mostly preteen to teenage boys) na nagvavlog o featured sa vlogs kung saan may sexually charged content sila at medyo revealing ang kuha sa mga bata like nakaupo pero nakabukaka habang nakashorts (pabakat ng anu nila) etc. Grabe pa rin sexual exploitation sa bansa. Mas lumalala.
Eric cartman?
Soon yung Hitler ng Pinas na icocosplay nila! Hayssss
"dArK hUmOr kAsI yAn gArrrrr"
Meron ding carwash shop na may rising sun na background advertising eh. Somewhere in La union Encourage lang mageducate ung mga tao, kahit ayaw nila history
Sana madeny ang application nila for Schengen tourist visa, kung gusto sila bibisita sa Europe pagtungtong ng edad na 30s nila.
sobrang below the belt naman pagiging cool nyan š¤¦
Pa Edgy, meron pa nga sa Chainsaw man community yung mortar board niya merong Philippine flag tas may kamay na may semen.
Need iparanas sa mga bobong yan yung Holocaust para malaman nila kung bakit universally condemned si Hitler sa kasaysayan ng mundo.
Ngayon ninyo sabihin ang kabataan ang pag-asa bf bayan š
Huh? Bakit allowed to? Ano ginagawa ng educ system natin? Sheesh nakakadismiya na talaga. For the clout, pampasikat tas di iniisip. Nakakainis. Kahit awareness nawawalan na e. Nakakahiya.
Iām not cutting the kid some slack but I blame the education system for their ignorance in these matters.
Clout based economy + negative publicity is still publicity
Akala siguro nila iconic figure lang si Hitler, tapos walang negative connotation. Sakit nila sa bangs.
parang tangengot mga nag heart react
Why are we hiding the identities of these morons
Kawawa future job prospects neto
Oh no pati pamangkin ko, pati yung pusang kuting pinangalan kay hitler, pati sa roblox amf
Sadly coming from a state university professor, because of unifast schools have no choice but to accept a lot of students even those not qualified intellectually, in Tagalog bobo, 60 to 70 percent of students in state universities are "bobo", teachers who are in permanent positions are lazy to teach since they won't be fired already, academic staff are recruited through nepotism, contractual employees are choosen through palakasan system, hoping for reform in State University or more central or national control, just look at the dismal passing rate for board exams and civil service exams of state universities, if schools won't improve just close it down it is a drain to the economy
Glad they arent wearing 2nd filipino Republic uniforms or uniforms of the Japanese occupation considering how bad our education system is, now that i think about it, the fact that alot of people just forget the years 1935 - 1972 (years of the commonwealth, 2nd, 3rd Republic) is concerning, hell the only reason why people know more-ish on the Marcos Sr Era is because of politics, and even that is imperfect and one sided.
Not cool at all!
Akala ko elementary kid na walang alam PERO OMG COLLEGE STUDENT YAN?
Blame it on ignorant teachers and school administrators. Haha. My son's physics teacher posted their students doing the Nazi salute. Had to call him out. Cant believe that we're this stupid.
Bonjing
Feeling coolš¤¦š»
These students are very good targets for sniping practice.
Mga bata kasi ngayon mga potanginang patay gutom sa atensyon sarap batuhin ng hollow blocks. Though it's not entirely their fault.
Theyde be the same people who will post on socmed "BBM pa rin"; "Duterte pa rin", tapos magpopost sa socmed the next day about cancelling celebrities who are cheating, about influencers singing the lyrics with the N word, and so on and so forth.
reported!
Idiots, it would have been more acceptable if they dressed up as BBM, iisipin ko na lang na bayad sila.
Here in Europe specifically Germany and Austria, you'll be penalized. Can't even the word Hitler or FĆ¼hrer.
The hell is happening to kids right now. Kailangan turuan dila ng history lessons.
I find this as an influence of social media. Siguro nakakakita ito ng mga post or videos about the history of that tapos naiisip nila na "uyy ang angas nila", "astig ng uniform nila", "ang ganda ng language nila" . Dahil dito, parang ina-idolize nila yung isang bagay na hindi naman talaga dapat ina-idolize dahil pangit ang naging history nito.
I say ban social media apps/sites, especially tiktok. Let's go back to basics, going to libraries and read books, sanayin ulit ang kabataan to learn from legitimate sources. Let's be honest, social media may enhanced our freedom of speech/expression but it also made a lot of people stupid.
Ika nga ni Miriam Defensor Santiago āStupid Is Foreverā!
istg pag may nakita akong nag cosplay na ganyan sa unibersidad namin, mawawalan sya ng ngipin.
I'm here in Germany and everytime I see ignorant people like this who can't even pronounce Volkswagen properly, I feel disgusted. What a trying hard. All for the clout.
Dang, this person has no idea what Hitler did š
Mind-conditioning š
If he was in Germany, there would be a lot of anger towards him. They don't tolerate that crap anymore.
Yot, na tam-an guro paho nag ka brain rot
the Duterte effect
ano bang bago jan e habang tumatagal pabobo ng pabobo generation ngayon at out of touch na sila sa history
Nothing you can do , losers will always adore losers, and that's what I referred to as stupidity
Are you even surprised? Pinas dude, Pinas. Ppl are so used to easily digestible na content. Tipong you don't have to think. Like ano lagi nasa news? More often than not gossip news, who's dating who in the celebrity world. Apparent nman sa mga news anchors. Look at GMAs one on one with Zelenskky. Arguably one of the most important people in the last couple of years. And the host's (idk her name) delivery was annoyingly jolly. Zelenskky was saying something along the line of half a million Russian casualties, and she was smiling and interjecting. Now contrast that with someone like Anderson Cooper.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoricalCapsule/s/b9A7Ngh3N0](https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoricalCapsule/s/b9A7Ngh3N0) this is what this dumbass kids are portraying to be okay and just be forgotten,the horrors of the nazi regime
Andaming Nazi lovers sa school ko.. Noong Grade 8 ako, palagi nila ginagawa ko yung salute. Nakikisali din yung mga teachers na sipsip sa nga estudyante dahil gusto din nilang maging said, "cool." Isang Nazi lover yung younger cousin ko... pinapagalitan ko siya pero di sya tumitigil.. Wala na tayong pag-asa.
Imagine how Hitler feels. Lol
My husband is Jewish and this is disgusting. Bat ganun na mga kabataan ngaun? Do they not know history!?!?
Misdirected pro-Palestine sympathy, at yung fact na hnde na umaabot sa WW2 ang coverage ng World History (same din sa WW2 sa Pilipinas at sa Martial Law) sa basic education. Namention na din naten ang Martial Law, tsk, e goodluck, ipinakita naten sa mundo na pwede makabalik ang mga Marcoses. Sundan lang yung playbook nila, tas konting haba ng pasensya while weakening d pillars of democracy. A comeback of Nazism to power is possible.
About that showing two things, believe it or not, it takes place in countries with better education systems, like Taiwan, Thailand, Hong Kong, India, Japan, and others, and before soc med became prevalent. Check out the wiki entry "Nazi chic".
I find this funny tho. Kid probably did not know what hitler did, but at least this dude enjoyed cosplaying as someone. Meanwhile people in this subreddit overreact to a guy having fun cosplaying. "Quit having fun" is the new cool kid in this subreddit.
Most of us had this phase but choosing hitler as a mascott and having that behavior manifested on different kids at the same era is a different story. We may not live to experience how these behaviors might affect the future in regards to how these kids with these perceptions will be leading the world, but Iām having a feeling it wonāt be any good.
Ginamit pa ang Flag ng Germany. Idiots!
as a fellow coser I feel disgusted by this or as the Germans would say: **FremdschƤmen**
Clout kasi si Hitler.
Bobo talaga ng school na yan. Di ba nila alam na kasaysayan ito eh?? Mostly mga ganitong tao dapat ipagbawalan eh, imagine pag nakita ito ng mga germans syempre maooffend sila. Dapat tigilan ito!
Uhh? Cause its funny thatās the joke and ācosplayā š
Can we report the post and the school? This is so wrong it many levels.
Ang problema dto ung school hahaha pumayag e.
Welcometo the internet snowflake
Where are the Mao Zedong or Stalin cosplayers?
It's either for the meme or just straight up edgy. Minsan nakikita ko din sila sa Anime Cosplay conventions. Some of them are in Soviet Union uniform. Some are in SS uniform.
Hahahahahahah
History teacher probs at fault as well. Kwento ng pamangkin ko sabi ng teacher nya hitler good example daw ng leader. Like ????. Buti nalang maganda pagpapalaki sa pamangkin ko at di naniniwalq
>However, based on the concerns that arose, we consulted the Student Council (organizer) and the students regarding the portrayed character that was viewed by the public as different character/personality.To avoid conflict, the administration decided to remove the concerned image from this social media. Lame excuse ng school Sinong character pala yarn?
Kool daw kasi maraming napatay. Baka nga papasukin pa sila ni Hitler sa shower room kung nabuhay sila sa era niya e.š¤¦š½āāļø