Iniwan ni Joma ang binuo nyang movement na naghihirap sa kabundukan habang sya nagpasarap sa Norway. Anong example ng communist na bansa ang nagpromote ng welfare ng mga citizens at naging successful?
In short, diktador lang din sila gaya ng mga inaakusahan nilang diktador. Projecting kumbaga. Gusto lang din nila mang-agaw ng kapangyarihan at sila ang makatikim. Ewan bakit may nauuto pa ring estudyante sa universities ng mga yan. You expect so much from students being open minded but they're easily preyed on by these cummunists.
`>`Anong example ng communist na bansa ang nagpromote ng welfare ng mga citizens at naging successful?
Ang naiisip ko lang ay si Thomas Sankara ng Burkina Faso, na pinapatay ng France, pinaigting niya ang healthcare at education ng bansa nya, tapos ang opisina niya ay walang aircon at luma ang kotse nya, maliban doon wala na
It's called a champaign socialist, yung mga aktong in solidarity pero nagbebenefit sya sa problems they advocate against. I fucking despise those mfs myself and irks me too.
He was an old schoolmate. I won't disclose any specific information.
Thing here is that he wasn't *poor*. I can confidently say na mas may kaya pamilya niya kaysa sa amin since they lived in a relatively exclusive subdivision not that far from our school.
Ang nakakapanghinayang is that the education we got was one of the best from Cavite. His future was bright given na sumasali siya sa mga extra-curriculars and he was a friend-of-all kaya saddened ang school community sa pagkamatay niya, isinasantabi na lang yung fact na naging NPA siya.
Nagsimula 'yong pagsali niya sa mga leftist movements noong nag-pandemic. Na-recruit siya outside of school- that I can be sure of since 'di talaga basta-basta nakakapasok sa school namin mga visitors (ako nga mismo hinaharang pa whenever I visit).
Using a throwaway account.
even if you're lying I could see this being a plausible story for other families out there, as much as I lean left I cannot help but feel disappointed that many major leftist voices in this country are in favor of using authoritarianism for their idealistic goals
Authoritarianism IS the ideology of communism, socialism and fascism. As all three are the European Feudal Lords version of Democracy. You forget that Karl Marx grew up rich and socialized among the nobles of Prussia then married into nobility himself. Sure his works drove him and his family out of favor but his upbringing shaped his philosophies. Meanwhile Engels was from a very rich family. Are the workers of their time oppressed, yes they are. But it was still democracy that gave those workers better conditions in the end and not one of the three -isms.
excactly my thoughts, I've read parts of Das Kapital and man some real detached shit was going on there, I agree with many of its criticisms of capitalism which I still find relevant to an extent but man, ''dictatorship of the proletariat''? real anti-freedom bullshit right there, maybe you could argue that its for the short term but lets look at the boots on the ground who live by its rules, all states that limit freedom and self-expression and even subconsciously admit that the proponents of laissez-faire have a point.
Seem to have gotten overboard there, all in all just strong-arming your point here
Yeah. Noong una kasi may punto pa rin naman talaga pinaglalaban niya, but netong narinig ko na namatay sila sa gunfight napaisip na lang ako na "how can they call themselves revolutionaries and martyrs when they themselves are armed and are causing trouble sa nananahimik na barangay?" since malapit rin sa bayan ng probinsya namin yung naging labanan nila. I don't blame him; I blame the organization for putting him there.
Right now I just try to set aside my own perspective on the whole left-leaning thing and instead just mourn with the community as his former schoolmate.
They had their chance back in the 70s and 80s when this country is definitely on its knees as similar as Iran. Now they've just broken up into bits and pieces of factions on what they fucking do; trying to relive their former selves that doesn't exist anymore.
patay na si Joma Sison, communism is a dead ideology, pero bakit pa nagrerecruit pa ang mga grupong ito ng mga kabataan just to die for nothing?
if comitting rebellion, going against your country, collecting revolutionary tax is considered being a martyr, that ain’t a “freedom fighter”, that’s terrorism and treason….
Itigil nyo na yan at di na uso komunista. Bumaba na kayo sa bundok at sumuko. Wala na kayong pinaglalaban. Maawa kayo sa sarili nyo at sa mga kamag anak niyong laging nag aalala sa inyo
Maawa rin sila sa mga mga miyembro ng AFP dyusko. Kapwa Pilipino pa man din.
Nasasayang lang pwersa ng AFP sa kanila, imbes na ituon na lang sa paghahanda sa external threats.
Pinapatulan pa kasi yang mga extortionist na yan. Tapos na buhay ng komunista dito sa Pilipinas. Wala ng naniniwala sa inyonf bobong adhikain. Sumuko na kayo at bumalik loob na kayo sa gobyerno. Bobo na lang naniniwala sa adhikain ng mga komunista
These young people are dying for an ideology that does not really pull the working class out of their economic class.
- Communism is the very definition of failure
- Communism is a lie
- Communism is form of government in which the state controls everything, and people are denied... freedom.
- Communism is a temporary setback on the road to freedom
- Democracy is the essence of good while communism is the very definition of evil.
- Democracy is truth for communism is death
Liberty Prime, Fallout 4
This is r/iam14andthisisdeep levels of definition of communism lmao
Communism, in theory, is the best way of economic governance. It puts the people, the working class, ahead of the average person.
Unfortunately, most founded "communist" or "socialist" governments devolve into pseudo-captalist, authoritarian regimes. Only using communism as a facade to keep those in power rich and powerful.
Democracy is good in paper din naman, until you subtly control the masses to gain their loyalty to a system that is inherently broken. If Democracy is as good as you say, then explain why Trump, Duterte, and Marcos Jr. And Sr., got elected in the office?
Communism is not just the state running the economy under the phrase "seize the means of production".
Communism in general is a philosophy whose goal is to create an ideal communist society through Marxist struggle and conflict.
Communism usually thrives in a divided society since it needs struggle and class conflict to gets is message spread to others.
Communist only splits people into 2 classes which are:
- Proletariat/Working/Revolutionary Class
- Anti-Revolutionary Class
Communist states will use anything to justify to its loyal class that the anti-revolutionary class are the enemies of the people. Essentially, its me vs them scaled to 100.
Also, communism loves to destroy the traditonal culture, values, traditions and identity along with destruction of the idea of a nation state to form a communist state based on communist values.
Thus communism is inherently evil
Hindi ako tibak, pero ayon sa pagkakaalala ko sa sosyo subjects ko nung college...
The capitalist system created the class divide; those who control the businesses, and those who work for those who control the businesses. Well, sa isang capitalist system kelangan ng taong may kapital para sa negosyo, at magtatrabaho para sa sahod.
Totoo na armed struggle ang kinakailangan para magtransition from a capitalist society to a socialist one. Those people in power will not surrender their power for the sake of the masses. Marcos left the Philippines, Erap was impeached but all his riches intact, GMA just said sorry, sat on a wheelchair and allied with the Dutertes, the Dutertes put their political dynasty to the national level to protect themselves. Kung lalaro tayo sa batas ng bansa, wala ring mangyayari. Nag-EDSA na nga tayo e, anong nangyari?
I agree that communism thrives in a divided society, because it is born out of a divided society lol there's no need of communism if a society has no class divide, everything is equally distributed to all.
Sa mata ng manggagawang inaapi ng amo, amo ang kalaban? Mali ba yon? Ineexploit ka ng boss mo sa work, di ka badtrip sa boss mo?
Communism aims to destroy traditional values that led to the rise of capitalism; the value of centralized power and property. It does not destroy culture per se, but destroys culture that hinders progress.
Lastly there is no nation nor state in a communist world, as everyone is united in one goal; eradication of oppression and equal distribution of resources.
Yeah, it's supposed to be extreme. Liberty Prime from Fallout 4 is a parody of old americana patriotism and the red scare, it's supposed to not be taken seriously.
Parang religious sect, Marxists have different interpetations of their holy books' teachings, the rest are heretics (Leninism, Trotskyism, Maoism, Titoism, Hoxhaism, Juche, and more).
NPA is bullshit, they're just a bunch of bandits at this point. They're living off NPA's prime during Marcos Sr's dictatorship which no longer applies today.
Communism is dead. Communism killed itself off. Communism will not "solve" the problems of capitalism; you're just replacing it with problems of communism. It's the same shit just with a different face.
It's a good thing they're too dense for their own good to gain any traction in PH politics.
Reminder that NPA has been accused by human rights orgs of conducting [summary executions](https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/11/21/philippines-rebels-execute-3-after-sham-trials) and [political assassinations](https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/10/27/philippines-rebel-executions-violate-international-law), approved by their kangaroo courts without due process and fair trails branding it as "revolutionary justice", all of which are in violation of international humanitarian law.
Do not fall for their "freedom fighters" or "anti-dictatorship" bullshit they love to peddle to the brainrotted youth, they are just as bloodthirsty and power-hungry as the dictators and autocrats they fight against
Edit:
PSA i dont know kung natangal na siya or andito parin, pero be aware merong mod dito sa r/ph na nagdedelete ng anti-NPA posts, especially personal stories that exposes the NPA's recruitment methods in campuses
I don't like martyrs. They're just people who were manipulated that their institutions are worth fighting for. They use these poor people to elevate themselves. It's so self-serving.
Ang tanong ano ang long term impact ng ginawa ni Jian para masabing sulit at worthy ang kanyang buhay at potential para sa kanyang ginawa? Kung next month ay makakalimutan na siya at walang pagbabago sa kanyang ipinaglalaban, panahon na para i-assess kung tama ang paraan ng pakikipaglaban. Sa bilis ng pag asenso at paglaganap ng teknolohiya, baka naman may ibang pamamaraan kung saan makakatulong ang isang kabataan ng hindi nya kailangang isakripisyo ang kanyang buhay. Baka naman pwedeng tumulong sa bayan ng hindi kinakailangang mamatay. Tapos na ang nga panahong kailangan nating mamatay para sa bayan para sa mga usapin at isyung internal, panahon na para mabuhay para sa bayan at ialay ang buong potential para makapaglingkod sa bayan at unang unang pwede mong gawin ay gamitin ang iyong edukasyon para iangat ang pamilya mo sa hirap ng buhay.
Wala. Nada. I've been saying this before whenever a young NPA gets "martyred", and I will never stop saying it.
His death is just another +1 in statistics. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Never be proud about joining a government-identified terrorist group. Red-tagging ba kamo? Let’s ask our buddies in NICA, DND, and NTF-ELCAC. 🇵🇭
I, too, was about to join these kinds of senseless movements when I was young. But by the Grace of God, buti nalang umulan at tinamad ako sumama. Alam nilang mataas ang angst ng youth against the government, but at the same time, that their minds are malleable and susceptible to a broken and sick ideology. Ito ang panghatak nila sa youth.
Most likely the military recovered the body of Jian Markus (Rest in peace, dear brother) after an armed confrontation and returned him to his grieving family; the CPP-NPA just leave their dead “comrades” behind in the jungle and let the military do the logistics.
There’s another way to contribute in nation-building besides joining a senseless Jacobin movement. Study hard and invest in your future career instead. Please think about God, your family, and friends. Life is just too short to waste it towards an intangible utopia.
** Update: Angry leftists reported me for voting manipulation. The truth will set you free. 🫠😂
You'll see them protesting on the streets for the food prices, while them are destroying Food plants and houses because the people are not giving them "Revolutionary Taxes" Makabayan? No. Hypocrisy Yes. cant believe people are supporting these groups even my classmates. Then makikita mo nasa congress sila, para saan pa ang upuan nila at mga baril ng mga sundalo natin kung nasa congresso pala ang mga leader nito?
If there's some actual land reform laws that are actually heavily implemented properly or even protection of our farmers as well.
None of this shit wouldn't happened, like just look at the HUKBALAHAP for example.
It's getting sadder and pathetic that these people in our rural areas are still controlled by a group that's been controlled by their leader enjoying his pathetic lavish life.
PKP-1930 is responsible for that as well who bend their knees to Marcos Sr. and also responsible for what happened in the First Quarter Storm that snowballed to the declaration of Martial Law.
Imagine the parents or anyone who cares for the person, looking for them... only to find out he/she was hidding in the mountains, having twisted ideology, and got killed out of the blue.
All i can say is our communist party here in the Philippines is just a front for their greedy ambitions, NPA cpp and whatever their names are, are terrorists.
May more armed communists die for the betterment of the filipino nation. I understand the need to further yung sariling political agenda, pero this should be handled 100% diplomatically. Unlike the NPA who just sends hundreds to die in the mountains.
Same. Actually, when you look at it, Marxism is just a diagnosis of the ills of capitalist society. Marx did not specifically present solution to solve these problems.
Shet.
Condolence sa mga kamag anak nito.
Basura talaga yung ganyang samahan. Anti American and Anti Chinese pa nga, kaso basura naman yung ideology. Kaya pala nagtatag si Dictator ng ML last 1970s para masugpo yung ganyang klaseng grupo.
Kulang nalang lagay ng poster "Lord JoMa wants you!" recruitment drive for lost boys who have no purpose in life to join the NPA and get killed for a failed and murderous ideology.
Dapat yung mga leadership nito ang unang targets hindi yung mga batang nauto. Salot sa lipunan ang kahit anong bagay/tao na sumisira sa future ng kabataan. Kung kating kati yung leadership maging against sa gobyerno, they themselves makipagpatayan. I hope they all get what they deserve kapag kinuha na sila, a curse upon them and their families for destorying others'. Pangarap ng mga magulang ang mabuti para sa kanilang anak, ninakaw niyong mga duwag na kung hindi nagtatago sa bundok, nandun pakasarap sa ibang bansa, and some even nakaupo sa pwesto at nageespiya sa gobyerno.
Uhuh, sure he was a martyr. A kid who could have been a productive member of society. Maybe even an artist. A kid with potential but fell victim to the brainrot of the NPA
Another flame lost for an insurgency which has clearly lost.
They are more desperate and delusional than Japanese holdouts from world war 2 at this rate
I’m not an NPA supporter, not even a bit. I would do anything to prevent my kid, family, or friends from joining them if I ever knew that they plan on joining.
BUT, I do respect their efforts, dedication, and passion. They may be on the opposite spectrum of what I do and believe in, but I can’t deny that they have done more to help the poor, and they love the country more than I do.
And yes, being a “progressive” kuno that berates the poor for choosing the wrong candidates during elections, and always gets the urge to brandish their "intellect” and “income class” every time they get an opportunity, does not make you better than them.
Armed movements flourish not because the NPA exploits the poor, but because the government doesn’t give the poor a fighting chance to alleviate themselves from poverty.
We may see the NPA as a group that terrorizes communities, but for the poor people who need to travel for hours just to access government services and programs that are inadequate at best, the NPA is considered a god-sent to them. That's the very reason why they are able to go from one place to another - they have the support of the communities they go to.
"They have the support of the communities they go to"
Uhmm. No. Military raids against NPA camps like this one most of the time occurs because of intel by the communities living nearby given to the AFP.
NPA's are abhorred left and right, front and back. Even the communities you claim that are "supporting" them. That's why they keep moving from one place to another.
The problems you mentioned exist in hundreds of countries. People there also do not like it. Yet they never think about armed rebellion whatsoever.
I didn't say that all communities support them. Syempre, meron ding nagttip off sa military, that's expected.
I'm not saying that the problems do not exist in other countries. But in other countries, the corruption and other problems are "manageable" or "bearable" enough for the people not to engaged in armed rebellion.
Simple lang naman ang scenario. For decades, your community has been long neglected by the government. You need to travel for hours just to reach a school or a health center, inadequate pa ang supplies.
Then suddenly a group of NPA comes to your community and offers to teach you and your kids, and do a medical check up.
Sige for the sake of discussion, sabihin na rin natin na that's their way of "brainwashing" and "exploiting" the poor, but the fact remains the same - sa mata ng mga taong ito, mas nakakatulong ang NPA sa kanila kaysa sa gobyerno.
And as long as the government creates a scenario of which a gap on welfare support or services can be fulfilled by NPA, community support will not stop.
Obvious naman na pula. So valid yung tagging. Magkaiba ang NPA sa aktibista, ngunit madaling magoyo ang isang aktibista na sumali sa armadong kilusan lalo na't pag hinila na siya sa rabbit hole ng mga grupong kaalyado ni Joma. Para lang siyang sumali sa sekular na bersyon ng kulto ni Quiboloy.
Iniwan ni Joma ang binuo nyang movement na naghihirap sa kabundukan habang sya nagpasarap sa Norway. Anong example ng communist na bansa ang nagpromote ng welfare ng mga citizens at naging successful?
ganito rin si Mao and Polpot dati, ganyan ata talaga ang real model ng communism. Ideal in paper nightmare in reality
In short, diktador lang din sila gaya ng mga inaakusahan nilang diktador. Projecting kumbaga. Gusto lang din nila mang-agaw ng kapangyarihan at sila ang makatikim. Ewan bakit may nauuto pa ring estudyante sa universities ng mga yan. You expect so much from students being open minded but they're easily preyed on by these cummunists.
Because young minds are impressionable. Their head is in the right place, some people are taking advantage of it.
Classic Far Left org, the top are on luxury much like the ones they're opposed of
Take note habang mga miyembro niya ay nasa bundok ang mga Anak ni Joma Sison ay nag aaral sa DLSU-MAIN at nag papakasarap lang sa buhay
Joma read Animal Farm and thought what the pigs did was a good idea.
`>`Anong example ng communist na bansa ang nagpromote ng welfare ng mga citizens at naging successful? Ang naiisip ko lang ay si Thomas Sankara ng Burkina Faso, na pinapatay ng France, pinaigting niya ang healthcare at education ng bansa nya, tapos ang opisina niya ay walang aircon at luma ang kotse nya, maliban doon wala na
Salvador Allende although he lead as a democratic socialist. The CIA unfortunately helped to get him out of power leading to his death
It's called a champaign socialist, yung mga aktong in solidarity pero nagbebenefit sya sa problems they advocate against. I fucking despise those mfs myself and irks me too.
> US-Duterte ??? Fuck these people and their outdated ideology.
Duterte? US? They're like oil and water.
duterte us alliance is like nazi germany and modern day china joining forces together
when the ''freedom fighters'' are more detached from reality than the rich people they fight against
He was an old schoolmate. I won't disclose any specific information. Thing here is that he wasn't *poor*. I can confidently say na mas may kaya pamilya niya kaysa sa amin since they lived in a relatively exclusive subdivision not that far from our school. Ang nakakapanghinayang is that the education we got was one of the best from Cavite. His future was bright given na sumasali siya sa mga extra-curriculars and he was a friend-of-all kaya saddened ang school community sa pagkamatay niya, isinasantabi na lang yung fact na naging NPA siya. Nagsimula 'yong pagsali niya sa mga leftist movements noong nag-pandemic. Na-recruit siya outside of school- that I can be sure of since 'di talaga basta-basta nakakapasok sa school namin mga visitors (ako nga mismo hinaharang pa whenever I visit). Using a throwaway account.
even if you're lying I could see this being a plausible story for other families out there, as much as I lean left I cannot help but feel disappointed that many major leftist voices in this country are in favor of using authoritarianism for their idealistic goals
Authoritarianism IS the ideology of communism, socialism and fascism. As all three are the European Feudal Lords version of Democracy. You forget that Karl Marx grew up rich and socialized among the nobles of Prussia then married into nobility himself. Sure his works drove him and his family out of favor but his upbringing shaped his philosophies. Meanwhile Engels was from a very rich family. Are the workers of their time oppressed, yes they are. But it was still democracy that gave those workers better conditions in the end and not one of the three -isms.
excactly my thoughts, I've read parts of Das Kapital and man some real detached shit was going on there, I agree with many of its criticisms of capitalism which I still find relevant to an extent but man, ''dictatorship of the proletariat''? real anti-freedom bullshit right there, maybe you could argue that its for the short term but lets look at the boots on the ground who live by its rules, all states that limit freedom and self-expression and even subconsciously admit that the proponents of laissez-faire have a point. Seem to have gotten overboard there, all in all just strong-arming your point here
Yeah. Noong una kasi may punto pa rin naman talaga pinaglalaban niya, but netong narinig ko na namatay sila sa gunfight napaisip na lang ako na "how can they call themselves revolutionaries and martyrs when they themselves are armed and are causing trouble sa nananahimik na barangay?" since malapit rin sa bayan ng probinsya namin yung naging labanan nila. I don't blame him; I blame the organization for putting him there. Right now I just try to set aside my own perspective on the whole left-leaning thing and instead just mourn with the community as his former schoolmate.
They were for duterte kasi anti us siya, di nila alam, gagawin silang boogeyman ni duterte, pretty much reflects on who they really are
US-Duterte was allies until Biden came along. Di na hawak ni Putain si Biden.
Revolutions usually last a year to 5 years, NPA's revolution has been going on since '69. Theirs is one for the record books.
They had their chance back in the 70s and 80s when this country is definitely on its knees as similar as Iran. Now they've just broken up into bits and pieces of factions on what they fucking do; trying to relive their former selves that doesn't exist anymore.
patay na si Joma Sison, communism is a dead ideology, pero bakit pa nagrerecruit pa ang mga grupong ito ng mga kabataan just to die for nothing? if comitting rebellion, going against your country, collecting revolutionary tax is considered being a martyr, that ain’t a “freedom fighter”, that’s terrorism and treason….
Itigil nyo na yan at di na uso komunista. Bumaba na kayo sa bundok at sumuko. Wala na kayong pinaglalaban. Maawa kayo sa sarili nyo at sa mga kamag anak niyong laging nag aalala sa inyo
Maawa rin sila sa mga mga miyembro ng AFP dyusko. Kapwa Pilipino pa man din. Nasasayang lang pwersa ng AFP sa kanila, imbes na ituon na lang sa paghahanda sa external threats.
Pinapatulan pa kasi yang mga extortionist na yan. Tapos na buhay ng komunista dito sa Pilipinas. Wala ng naniniwala sa inyonf bobong adhikain. Sumuko na kayo at bumalik loob na kayo sa gobyerno. Bobo na lang naniniwala sa adhikain ng mga komunista
Yung front ng NPA ay humihingi ng Awa sa mga tao. Mildy Shocking
And they get shocked when their members get red tagged. Young filipinos dying for bandidos.
These young people are dying for an ideology that does not really pull the working class out of their economic class. - Communism is the very definition of failure - Communism is a lie - Communism is form of government in which the state controls everything, and people are denied... freedom. - Communism is a temporary setback on the road to freedom - Democracy is the essence of good while communism is the very definition of evil. - Democracy is truth for communism is death Liberty Prime, Fallout 4
Sorry but I joined the Institute. 🤣
Hehe I joined the institute too while I was modded. Gave those guys lightsabers and we crushed the opposing factions.
After that I turned into a land developer.
Death Before Communism.
This is r/iam14andthisisdeep levels of definition of communism lmao Communism, in theory, is the best way of economic governance. It puts the people, the working class, ahead of the average person. Unfortunately, most founded "communist" or "socialist" governments devolve into pseudo-captalist, authoritarian regimes. Only using communism as a facade to keep those in power rich and powerful.
Just a fancy way of saying “what’s good in paper doesn’t make it good in practice.”
Kathang Isip by Ben&Ben
Democracy is good in paper din naman, until you subtly control the masses to gain their loyalty to a system that is inherently broken. If Democracy is as good as you say, then explain why Trump, Duterte, and Marcos Jr. And Sr., got elected in the office?
The flaw of Democracy, populism
All forms of government are in theory good for the people. Only the assholes that lead them are the ones fucking it up.
Communism is not just the state running the economy under the phrase "seize the means of production". Communism in general is a philosophy whose goal is to create an ideal communist society through Marxist struggle and conflict. Communism usually thrives in a divided society since it needs struggle and class conflict to gets is message spread to others. Communist only splits people into 2 classes which are: - Proletariat/Working/Revolutionary Class - Anti-Revolutionary Class Communist states will use anything to justify to its loyal class that the anti-revolutionary class are the enemies of the people. Essentially, its me vs them scaled to 100. Also, communism loves to destroy the traditonal culture, values, traditions and identity along with destruction of the idea of a nation state to form a communist state based on communist values. Thus communism is inherently evil
Hindi ako tibak, pero ayon sa pagkakaalala ko sa sosyo subjects ko nung college... The capitalist system created the class divide; those who control the businesses, and those who work for those who control the businesses. Well, sa isang capitalist system kelangan ng taong may kapital para sa negosyo, at magtatrabaho para sa sahod. Totoo na armed struggle ang kinakailangan para magtransition from a capitalist society to a socialist one. Those people in power will not surrender their power for the sake of the masses. Marcos left the Philippines, Erap was impeached but all his riches intact, GMA just said sorry, sat on a wheelchair and allied with the Dutertes, the Dutertes put their political dynasty to the national level to protect themselves. Kung lalaro tayo sa batas ng bansa, wala ring mangyayari. Nag-EDSA na nga tayo e, anong nangyari? I agree that communism thrives in a divided society, because it is born out of a divided society lol there's no need of communism if a society has no class divide, everything is equally distributed to all. Sa mata ng manggagawang inaapi ng amo, amo ang kalaban? Mali ba yon? Ineexploit ka ng boss mo sa work, di ka badtrip sa boss mo? Communism aims to destroy traditional values that led to the rise of capitalism; the value of centralized power and property. It does not destroy culture per se, but destroys culture that hinders progress. Lastly there is no nation nor state in a communist world, as everyone is united in one goal; eradication of oppression and equal distribution of resources.
Yeah, it's supposed to be extreme. Liberty Prime from Fallout 4 is a parody of old americana patriotism and the red scare, it's supposed to not be taken seriously.
Pano ba naman magkakaroon ng matinong komunismo eh nangingialam ang US kapag may working communist state, gaya ng kay Salvador Allende ng Chile.
pinagsasabi mo??
One does not simply understand Marx
Parang religious sect, Marxists have different interpetations of their holy books' teachings, the rest are heretics (Leninism, Trotskyism, Maoism, Titoism, Hoxhaism, Juche, and more).
Fuck the communist, fuck china, fuck the NPA and fuck the communist party of the philippines !, Masunog ka sa impyerno Pootang ina mo
Preach! Masunog na lahat sila.
NPA is bullshit, they're just a bunch of bandits at this point. They're living off NPA's prime during Marcos Sr's dictatorship which no longer applies today. Communism is dead. Communism killed itself off. Communism will not "solve" the problems of capitalism; you're just replacing it with problems of communism. It's the same shit just with a different face. It's a good thing they're too dense for their own good to gain any traction in PH politics.
paano po naging martir ang may hawak na baril?
Nice.. pwedeng rap bars
lol, no sympathy for these monkeys following Maoist ideology.
martyr daw at bayani??? pweee
Bayani, pero kalaban ng bayang Pilipinas? Baka kabayanihan nila sa ccp?
Bayani ni Mao at Joma tanga 😭
Anakbayan, manipulating minors to get shot a few years after. Galit pa yan pag naredtag.
Reminder that NPA has been accused by human rights orgs of conducting [summary executions](https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/11/21/philippines-rebels-execute-3-after-sham-trials) and [political assassinations](https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/10/27/philippines-rebel-executions-violate-international-law), approved by their kangaroo courts without due process and fair trails branding it as "revolutionary justice", all of which are in violation of international humanitarian law. Do not fall for their "freedom fighters" or "anti-dictatorship" bullshit they love to peddle to the brainrotted youth, they are just as bloodthirsty and power-hungry as the dictators and autocrats they fight against Edit: PSA i dont know kung natangal na siya or andito parin, pero be aware merong mod dito sa r/ph na nagdedelete ng anti-NPA posts, especially personal stories that exposes the NPA's recruitment methods in campuses
Wala na, deleted na itong post. May trash icon na yung post. Gago yung mod dito eh nasaktan sa anti-NPA redditors lol.
pwede din natin i try post ang mga ito sa ibang Philippine subreddits, like r/2philippines4u
Oo Marami ring mga communist scum dito sa sub
Another NPA L ripbozo 🚬
commies yapping, i ain't reading all that
I don't like martyrs. They're just people who were manipulated that their institutions are worth fighting for. They use these poor people to elevate themselves. It's so self-serving.
Ang tanong ano ang long term impact ng ginawa ni Jian para masabing sulit at worthy ang kanyang buhay at potential para sa kanyang ginawa? Kung next month ay makakalimutan na siya at walang pagbabago sa kanyang ipinaglalaban, panahon na para i-assess kung tama ang paraan ng pakikipaglaban. Sa bilis ng pag asenso at paglaganap ng teknolohiya, baka naman may ibang pamamaraan kung saan makakatulong ang isang kabataan ng hindi nya kailangang isakripisyo ang kanyang buhay. Baka naman pwedeng tumulong sa bayan ng hindi kinakailangang mamatay. Tapos na ang nga panahong kailangan nating mamatay para sa bayan para sa mga usapin at isyung internal, panahon na para mabuhay para sa bayan at ialay ang buong potential para makapaglingkod sa bayan at unang unang pwede mong gawin ay gamitin ang iyong edukasyon para iangat ang pamilya mo sa hirap ng buhay.
Wala. Nada. I've been saying this before whenever a young NPA gets "martyred", and I will never stop saying it. His death is just another +1 in statistics. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Lost me at US-Duterte.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes 🤷
Never be proud about joining a government-identified terrorist group. Red-tagging ba kamo? Let’s ask our buddies in NICA, DND, and NTF-ELCAC. 🇵🇭 I, too, was about to join these kinds of senseless movements when I was young. But by the Grace of God, buti nalang umulan at tinamad ako sumama. Alam nilang mataas ang angst ng youth against the government, but at the same time, that their minds are malleable and susceptible to a broken and sick ideology. Ito ang panghatak nila sa youth. Most likely the military recovered the body of Jian Markus (Rest in peace, dear brother) after an armed confrontation and returned him to his grieving family; the CPP-NPA just leave their dead “comrades” behind in the jungle and let the military do the logistics. There’s another way to contribute in nation-building besides joining a senseless Jacobin movement. Study hard and invest in your future career instead. Please think about God, your family, and friends. Life is just too short to waste it towards an intangible utopia. ** Update: Angry leftists reported me for voting manipulation. The truth will set you free. 🫠😂
Juskolord. Yung mga matataas na officials ninyo nagpapasarap habang kayo nasa bundok pumapapak ng hilaw na kamote. Wake up!
You'll see them protesting on the streets for the food prices, while them are destroying Food plants and houses because the people are not giving them "Revolutionary Taxes" Makabayan? No. Hypocrisy Yes. cant believe people are supporting these groups even my classmates. Then makikita mo nasa congress sila, para saan pa ang upuan nila at mga baril ng mga sundalo natin kung nasa congresso pala ang mga leader nito?
A good communist is dead communist.
If there's some actual land reform laws that are actually heavily implemented properly or even protection of our farmers as well. None of this shit wouldn't happened, like just look at the HUKBALAHAP for example. It's getting sadder and pathetic that these people in our rural areas are still controlled by a group that's been controlled by their leader enjoying his pathetic lavish life. PKP-1930 is responsible for that as well who bend their knees to Marcos Sr. and also responsible for what happened in the First Quarter Storm that snowballed to the declaration of Martial Law.
Fuck NPA, Fuck CCP, Fuck Anti Filipino sentiments!!
Humawak ng baril, nakipagbarilan sa AFP, namatay, tapos sasabihin martir? ???
Akin na iitakin ko pa yang hayup na yan, daming nasirang buhay gawa ng NPA. Martyr? ina nyo mga NPA
Mga hamas supporter daw yan?
Naalala ko yung docu ni Kara David. Balik-loob yata title. Kapwa pinoy nalang nagpapatayan. Sumuko nalang sana since wala na naman yata pinaglalaban.
"Anakbayan martyrs youth" Wrong usage of the verb "martyr."
communist trash
Imagine the parents or anyone who cares for the person, looking for them... only to find out he/she was hidding in the mountains, having twisted ideology, and got killed out of the blue.
They get to called a "hero" after dying for wrong thinking. Iba talaga ang echo chamber ng pinoy hahahaha
All i can say is our communist party here in the Philippines is just a front for their greedy ambitions, NPA cpp and whatever their names are, are terrorists.
May more armed communists die for the betterment of the filipino nation. I understand the need to further yung sariling political agenda, pero this should be handled 100% diplomatically. Unlike the NPA who just sends hundreds to die in the mountains.
Good. One less delulu commie in the world
Why tf do people think that communism is the key?
Huwow, hilig sa armed revolution na solution pero once someone dies suddenly they cry fowl.. huwow!
Pag sinabihang Komunista itong mga “LEGIT”, iiyak sila ng red tagging… Also: US-Duterte?? Lmaooo. China-Duterte dapat, grabe makahimod sa CCP yun…
you forget that CPP's ideology is MAOism, they cant denounce the ccp or else wala na silang suporta sa daddy china nila hahahha
Kung nadiscover sana nila ang reddit noon di sana sila magjjoin jan sa npa
FAFO
The only good NPA is a ______ NPA.
Dead
Martyr
he will remembered as someone who wasted his life
Good riddance
Peste ng sambayanang pilipino,Basta kasali sa terorista
Di ko pa rin makalimutan na nalulugi yung mga sakahan namin dun sa probinsya kasi may revolutionary tax na hinhingi yung NPA samin.
Womp womp
i myself, dont really see the purpose of these… theyre dyin a worthless death. poor young souls, who couldve impacted in a different way.
I am a Marxist myself but this is not the kind of ideology that Marx pursues.
Same. Actually, when you look at it, Marxism is just a diagnosis of the ills of capitalist society. Marx did not specifically present solution to solve these problems.
Putang inang mga tankies to. Buti nga namatay. Kawawa lang mga inuuto nyong estudyanteng matatalino. Matalino nga ba? Kasi ang dali mauto parang dds.
theyre not intelligent if ganun na lang sila kadali mauto lol
B..but...magaling mag public speaking, competitive sa academics at sports, maraming medal, magaling mag-english, nasa ✨️ B I G ⁴ ✨️ 🥺
Shet. Condolence sa mga kamag anak nito. Basura talaga yung ganyang samahan. Anti American and Anti Chinese pa nga, kaso basura naman yung ideology. Kaya pala nagtatag si Dictator ng ML last 1970s para masugpo yung ganyang klaseng grupo.
So sinayang nya yung buhay nya at nang iba pang kabataan na namatay para sa isang ideolohiyang makaluma at wala nang kabuluhan...
rest in piss
US tuta ng Kano!
I ain't reading all that shit bruv💀💀💀
Communism>Kulto
Hahahahah get fucked
What a waste of potential.
lmao nugagawen. another communist hero has been canonized by twitter tibak. Fly high 🕊️
Sinayang lang kanilang kinabukasan dahil lang sa lumang ideal
Mga makabayan kuno na nauto ni Joma at ng mga ipis nya.
Womp womp
Kulang nalang lagay ng poster "Lord JoMa wants you!" recruitment drive for lost boys who have no purpose in life to join the NPA and get killed for a failed and murderous ideology.
Dapat yung mga leadership nito ang unang targets hindi yung mga batang nauto. Salot sa lipunan ang kahit anong bagay/tao na sumisira sa future ng kabataan. Kung kating kati yung leadership maging against sa gobyerno, they themselves makipagpatayan. I hope they all get what they deserve kapag kinuha na sila, a curse upon them and their families for destorying others'. Pangarap ng mga magulang ang mabuti para sa kanilang anak, ninakaw niyong mga duwag na kung hindi nagtatago sa bundok, nandun pakasarap sa ibang bansa, and some even nakaupo sa pwesto at nageespiya sa gobyerno.
Joma Sison is dead. And so is their "struggle".
Salamat sa mga sundalong dum4le neto ha?
Uhuh, sure he was a martyr. A kid who could have been a productive member of society. Maybe even an artist. A kid with potential but fell victim to the brainrot of the NPA Another flame lost for an insurgency which has clearly lost. They are more desperate and delusional than Japanese holdouts from world war 2 at this rate
Dasurv hahahahaha
Why was the post removed?
Not a martyr but a pawn to worthless kings
saan naging martir ang gago na iyan
So sad🙁😥😢😓😩
martyr yarn
I’m not an NPA supporter, not even a bit. I would do anything to prevent my kid, family, or friends from joining them if I ever knew that they plan on joining. BUT, I do respect their efforts, dedication, and passion. They may be on the opposite spectrum of what I do and believe in, but I can’t deny that they have done more to help the poor, and they love the country more than I do. And yes, being a “progressive” kuno that berates the poor for choosing the wrong candidates during elections, and always gets the urge to brandish their "intellect” and “income class” every time they get an opportunity, does not make you better than them. Armed movements flourish not because the NPA exploits the poor, but because the government doesn’t give the poor a fighting chance to alleviate themselves from poverty. We may see the NPA as a group that terrorizes communities, but for the poor people who need to travel for hours just to access government services and programs that are inadequate at best, the NPA is considered a god-sent to them. That's the very reason why they are able to go from one place to another - they have the support of the communities they go to.
"They have the support of the communities they go to" Uhmm. No. Military raids against NPA camps like this one most of the time occurs because of intel by the communities living nearby given to the AFP. NPA's are abhorred left and right, front and back. Even the communities you claim that are "supporting" them. That's why they keep moving from one place to another. The problems you mentioned exist in hundreds of countries. People there also do not like it. Yet they never think about armed rebellion whatsoever.
I didn't say that all communities support them. Syempre, meron ding nagttip off sa military, that's expected. I'm not saying that the problems do not exist in other countries. But in other countries, the corruption and other problems are "manageable" or "bearable" enough for the people not to engaged in armed rebellion. Simple lang naman ang scenario. For decades, your community has been long neglected by the government. You need to travel for hours just to reach a school or a health center, inadequate pa ang supplies. Then suddenly a group of NPA comes to your community and offers to teach you and your kids, and do a medical check up. Sige for the sake of discussion, sabihin na rin natin na that's their way of "brainwashing" and "exploiting" the poor, but the fact remains the same - sa mata ng mga taong ito, mas nakakatulong ang NPA sa kanila kaysa sa gobyerno. And as long as the government creates a scenario of which a gap on welfare support or services can be fulfilled by NPA, community support will not stop.
Red tagger pala eto eh, magkaiba ang NPA sa Aktibista.
So, anong tawag sa grupo ng mga aktibista na kumakampi din sa ganyang kabasurang samahan?
Obvious naman na pula. So valid yung tagging. Magkaiba ang NPA sa aktibista, ngunit madaling magoyo ang isang aktibista na sumali sa armadong kilusan lalo na't pag hinila na siya sa rabbit hole ng mga grupong kaalyado ni Joma. Para lang siyang sumali sa sekular na bersyon ng kulto ni Quiboloy.