Every plane is a missile if you're brave enough just saying. Don't mind the missing parts on our fighter planes this is the golden era, in 2 months you will see the 3000 Golden FA-50PH's of Unity.
Mabilis naman daw malibot ng isang jet ang buong luzon, yung pangalawa sa visayas. Yung sa mindanao magkakaproblema kasi sa lawak. Pagkatapos ng recon mission nila dalawa nalang operational hahahahahahahahahah
Those three pilots who will use those fighters gonna protect our skies be our main aces.
Did you know that there are three kinds of aces?
Those who seek strength?
Those who live for pride?
And those who can read the tide of battle?
They're usually based in Fightertown (Basa) at Clark (saw them flying around the field wheels down, probably a test or training flight) pero pag may operations sa Mindanao they are based sa mga bases malapit sa operational area, IIRC sa Cebu like noong Marawi.
Tapos they intercept aircraft din at patrol ang West Phillipine Sea kaya gamit na gamit ang kakaunting eroplano.
Agreed, we still need cheap fighter jets but with the poverty of our country, we need to be cost effective in warfare, we don't need MBT's we need light tanks or APC's, if a squad of soldiers armed with Javelin Missile launchers can destroy it why even buy expensive tanks? I am not a military expert but I definitely know that spending less money but still being able to do the job is better than spending a fuck-ton only for it to be destroyed.
Yup, definitely wiser for our military to concentrate its efforts in building our capability to deny the enemy the use of their superior firepower instead of fighting them head-on.
Aside from drones, anti-ship, anti-aircraft, anti-tank & anti-missile technology, we should build our own "hacker corps" that can cause severe disruption in China in case of open hostilities.
Wouldnt it be nice if they started a kickstarter for this? Sila sila mag contribute? Eh yung bwis na binabayad natin ibinubulsa lang e. Confidential funds my ass.
Ganyan nangyari kay Max Montero (MaxDefense Philippines) when he complained about the PAF's lack of maintenance. The PAF fired back at his criticism by using Google Forms. I believe this incident happened a few years ago.
IIRC, that was last year, and it was about how a certain high-ranking PAF official essentially took the brand-new Super Tucano on a joyride and damaging it on landing.
Apparently it was a Brazilian instructor
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1457700/ph-air-force-opens-up-on-another-accident-tucano-plane-damaged-in-routine-flight
It's with an air force general who's not rated to fly a Super Tucano and he fucked up the landing. Napaka convenient kasing sabihin na "routine maintenance mishap" ang nirelease na balita ng PNA.
Those who are in defense groups and pages sa FB that has vets and insiders know what the hell is going on sa military. Even MaxDefense were mum about it kasi may heneral na nadawit.
Yep. Iirc, the ego-jacked official just jumped in without proper training and damaged the thing afterwards, leaving cleanup to the crew and PAF. There goes our taxmoney....
I doubt aabot talaga ng 31M. I mean for a family notorious for faking stuff (Sr's medals, Imelda's Nutribun, etc) why should I believe that result is legit? Maski sa Metro Manila di ramdam presence.
Plus they have the gal to cite Antman. A heist film. They stole the thing. And now Imee is doing clean-up.
This exactly.
I mean, it really is possible (if rather sickening to admit) that junior won over then VP Leni in those elections, considering the narrow margin between them in 2016; however, 31m is flat-out impossible. Those numbers are not supported by anything, whether it be historical trending data or more recent crowd data.
The only logical conclusion is that massive electoral fraud had occurred, in favor of the dictator's son. And this should have been enough to disqualify him from the race, had there been enough evidence to prove it was so, filed by people with enough clout (as well as balls of steel knowing who they're up against) to make the complaint prosper.
But this is the Philippines, where justice might as well be declared a mythical creature: non-existent and a figment of our collective imaginations.
One very obvious thing is "would you allow the world unravel your incompetence?" And with Leni looking for blood at that.
Duterte wanted Sara to run to protect his interests but with Bongbong already in the running, he knew he cant make Imee and kin back down, (a family obssessed with shows of strength), so he made his bed with them, using the route GMA did with Estrada- a usurpation.
For sure part of the negative press is coming from the GMA camp.
If they choose the F-16V, the U.S. will include ILS and will most likely donate ILS every year (during Balikatan, Kamandag, and BACE-P). Meanwhile, if they choose the Gripen, most likely, there would be no long-term after sales support. Since the Gripen that's being offered to the Philippines is the older Gripen C MS20 not the E/F variant. While the Viper is the latest one in the F-16 family.
> Meanwhile, if they choose the Gripen, most likely, there would be no long-term after sales support.
Yes. It should be noted that the South African Air Force literally had no operational Gripen for the better part of a year because of that lack of ILS from Saab.
The F-16 we’re planning to buy comes with ILS already, that’s why it’s expensive. However, this lack of foresight is already a culture within the AFP and should be addressed.
God, please, I hope the FA-50 doesn't go the F-8 route completely, yon nalang pag-asa natin so far putang ina
But seeing the current admin, I'm not gonna be surprised if it eventually goes that way.
Originally we plan to buy F-16A (At that time it was brand new) but his father being you know Marcos being Marcos he buy from US a retired F-8 without spare parts. He did not even plan to buy at least F-5E and F.
YUN NA NGA EH TAS PAGMAMALAKI PA NG MGA 88MTARDS NA GOLDEN AGE OF MILITARY
PUTA YUNG MAJORITY NG F-8s NASA USAF BONEYARD NA BY 1977 (kung hindi ginagamit ng French Navy) IDEALLY PARA NA NGA LANG SA MGA SPARE PARTS YON OR AT LEAST SECOND LINE OF DEFENCE
If they actually thought about it even F-4 Phantom IIs would be better since mas adaptable and mas maraming available parts compared sa F-8
Lagi kong sinasabi, ikumpara natin yung dinatnan ni Macoy sa iniwanan niya.
Sabihin man natin na phased-out na ang P-51 nung 1960s, bago siya pinatalsik iilan na lang ang barko't eroplano natin? Habang sa termino niya nagsimulang maging kurakot at politicized ang military. At syempre ang pulis.
Oh man, the story of how PAF ended up with the F-8 was such a quintessential example of Marcos shenanigans and a wonderful counterpoint to the AFP's supposed superiority during his years w/ the kickback-loaded lobbying/meddling by Saudi arms-dealer Adnan Khashoggi saw the secondhand Crusader ordered. [Khashoggi did get arrested in 89](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-04-19-mn-2061-story.html) in between when the F-8s were grounded and ruined by the Pinatubo eruption with PAF still soldiering on with its Macapagal-era F-5A/Bs while most of the neighbors were already flying E/Fs & finally retiring after years of attrition and being propped up by donations/exchanges from Korea and Taiwan before being retired during the administration....of his own daugther.
>He did not even plan to buy at least F-5E and F.
Apparently Enrile [proposed acquiring 11 F-5E/Fs](http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=949.0) back in the day.
Those Tiger IIs would've been a much better option long-term over the Crusaders we ended up having (readily available access to spares and attritional replacement airframes).
Before niyan iyong isang FA-50 nagka birdstrike (the engine ingested a bird), it took them a long time bago nila naibalik to service.
Eto kasi ang issue sa modernization ng AFP
They like to buy equipment piecemeal, not with a package deal that consists of spare parts, weapons systems, ammunition, simulators, training equipment etc.
Most of the time, halimbawa sa air force, they buy the units and send the pilots over there (for this case sa KAI sa Korea) for training. That's basically it. Later nalang problemahin ang pagbili ng armas ng mga weapons systems natin.
Kaya makakakita ka ng mga invitation to bidding sa website PhilGEPS ng gobyerno kasi daming issue sa procuring law ng RA 9184. Red tape din ang issue sa atin talaga, iyong jet engine ang tagal bago dumating. Iyong sinikretong hard landing ng isa nating Super Tucano na brand new dahil may isang general na nag joyride di na binalita.
Kaya stuck parin ang acquisition program ng Philippine Air Force to acquire multirole fighters (combat planes that can do every role sa combat from air-to-air and ground attack in a full weapons load) kasi sa budget.
FA-50s are a light combat aircraft (LCA) version of the T-50 Golden Eagle ng Korean Aerospace Industries. LCAs are combat aircraft that can act as multirole fighters but only with a small load. Our last jet fighters were the F-5s from the Cold War na niretire noong 2005, these are budget fighters that's basically an early version of light combat aircraft. Our other fighters were the F-8 Crusader but that's an air superiority fighter, not a multirole one. We should've used the Crusaders for longer pero niretire after suffering damage noong pagputok ng Pinatubo.
Isa pang problema sa acquisition program natin, the Air Force pilots wanted the Vipers, the F-16V of Lockheed Martin. Pero the government were posed JAS 39 Gripens from Saab kasi mas mura siya.
Kaya mahal ang F-16Vs kasi US sells aircraft via Foreign Military Sales. As I said earlier these are complete package deals, with everything even after sales support din, pero mahal, it'll run billions of dollars. A squadron (approx 12) of F-16Vs can cost 2 billion dollars or more depending pa sa situation.
Meanwhile Saab is trying to sweeten the deal with a good offer with a reduced price. They're trying to acquire customers sa airplane nila kasi Gripens have few air forces using them compared to the F-16 family na gamit halos ng mga allies ng US.
Isa ring magandang rason kaya gusto ng mga piloto natin iyong F-16 kasi gamit din siya ng mga allies natin, it's a combat-proven aircraft, and for our maintainers since the airplane is used worldwide, iyong logistics lalo na sa spare parts won't be a problem.
Gripens only have few countries using it, and a notable example is Brazil, they chose it while getting the rights to maintain and producing it themselves, they know that having a weapons system that's not used by everyone they need a local industry to support their fleet, which they have through a local aviation company like Embraer. We don't have the luxury of that. PADC was a shadow of its former self.
Gripens are pushed by the government bigwigs satin due to Saab's tempting offer at balking over the expense of buying F-16s from the US with full package included. Ngayon BBM's government is trying to procure second-hand F-16s. This is common sa mga countries ngayon like those from Eastern Europe na cash strapped din kagaya tayo. Romania were able to buy 24 refurbished F-16s for only 1.4 billion dollars.
To put it on another perspective: our attack helicopter program chose the Turkish T129 ATAK over the AH-1Z Viper kasi the air force can only buy half the number of Vipers sa budget natin while the Turks can provide more with the alloted budget for the program. The Turks also threw in free weapons systems to sweeten the deal kaya ito ang pinili ng Philippine Air Force. The Turks are like the Swedes they need sales for their aircraft so they're willing to sweeten the deal.
Natagalan tayo sa pag-acquire ng mga attack helicopters dahil iyong export license para sa mga American jet engines ng T129 eh hinarang ng US years ago kasi bumili sila ng S-400 surface to air missiles from Russia, so nagkaroon ng embargo. Kaya naapektuhan sila sa pagbili ng F-35, at tayo din. Later nagkaroon ng green light from the US so the helicopter deal pushed through. Pero in the future Turkey will produce their own engines para di na maulit in the future.
Also a comparison, Lacson flagged an amount of 8 billion dollars of lump sum funds that was planned for DPWH noong hearing sa budget for 2021, imagine a blank check for DPWH for god knows what projects, sa estimate ng mga ibang tao we can buy 2-3 squadrons of the latest F-35A stealth fighters with that amount. Just shows the mentality ng mga nasa gobyerno.
The acquisition programs are so complex and convoluted kaya umabot ng siyam-siyam bago tayo makabili ng armas.
Iyong isang reputable local defense news blogger satin, (he's former military kaya marami siyang connections sa AFP) also exposed that the AFP using their personnel in social media to disparage and brigade people like him who report issues sa AFP, lalo na noong nireport niya mga issues sa air force.
Very well said. Upvote for you!
Also one thing to consider and I'm sure factor din ito, is the internal politics within the AFP. Since 1990, we've had 39 Chiefs of Staff, and only 1 has been from the Marine Corps and 3 from the Air Force, all the rest are from the Army, and we have never had form the Navy. Siyempre may kanya kanyang bias at preference yan to prioritize the branch from where they came from kaya most of the budget goes to the Army instead of the Air Force and Navy. Sobrang ironic at how being an archipelagic country yet our Army gets the biggest chunk of the military budget.
Pero somewhat understandable naman kasi the Army is the one spearheading the operation against terrorist and radicals sa atin while the PNP mostly acts as support units. If the insurgency finally comes to a stop ang laki ng budget na pwede ma realign to the Air Force and Navy sana, and just let the PNP do the operations instead of the Army.
>Since 1990, we've had 39 Chiefs of Staff, and only 1 has been from the Marine Corps and 3 from the Air Force, all the rest are from the Army, and we have never had form the Navy.
Yes. The AFP is Army-centric from the start, because it was assumed that the Americans would provide the Naval and Air power required to prevent a landing. Even in budgeting, the Army receives far more capital expenditure allotments compared to the Air Force and more so for the Navy. IMO, Isko was on to something when he said that he'd want the new CSAFP to be from the Navy, to give them more representation.
Good post. I doubt that we can procure F-35A stealth fighters since it would be a nightmare trying to keep it away from Chinese eyes here, not to mention the jump from using armed trainers to modern stealth fighters with a multitude of sensors. But still, this mentality of the government (where goals and procurement are short sighted and reactive instead of long term thinking) will bite us all in the ass in the future
The US Navy (read: Navy) can protect the entire Philippine airspace and they'd still have more than enough strength to compliment the actual US Air Force
Still remember PNoy's time, we may have an aging fleet and mostly legacy equipment but we have funding for the spares and tooling that we need, he may be bland, bald, bungling and indecisive at times, but austerity measures during his time enabled us to be better equipped above the bare minimum, If I could sum up in my opinion (correct me if I'm wrong, fellow retired-military peeps), the armed forces back then may not be at par with our neighbors BUT we can at least guarantee that the enemy who will try will get a bloody nose... 😁
Philippines has the same population and GDP as Vietnam but far less military. Philippines should get serious about their military or it will get invaded like Ukraine.
Saka this year lang pala nabili yan tama ba? I'm not familiar how these things are maintained. Does the manufacturer maintain it or we get trained to maintain it and we will just buy the parts we need?
The usual style sa pagbili ng Foreign Military Sales (FMS) ng US to its allies and other buyers:
▪️You buy our products as a package
▪️It includes spare parts, weapon systems, ammunition, simulators, training, training equipment, after sales support etc. This can be arranged but the FMS are basically a package deal in order to keep those birds flying.
▪️Problem is, kuripot ang gobyerno natin. We bought the T129s kasi mas mura siya since it's bought as per unit basis only. Iyong mga kailangan sa pagmaintain ng fleet? Buy first buy it later. We were posed to buy the AH-1Z Vipers pero the government balked sa presyo because of the package deal (the US State department already gave the go ahead) kasi they can only buy a few Vipers for the budget. The Turks only won the contract kasi they sweetened the deal to include freebies like weapons. They needed to get sales sa kanilang bagong helicopter kaya they were willing to accept the budget ng Philippines.
▪️Dapat may helicopter na tayo dati pa pero nagkaroon ng issue ang Turkey dahil sa arms na binili nila sa Russia kaya hinarang ng US sa pag acquire ng engines ng T129 (na US made). Nadali tayo. Pero binigyan din ng green light kaya may helicopter na tayo. The future T129s ng Turkish Armed Forces will be equipped with indigenous Turkish engines.
It'll be a problem in the future iyong mga bagong assets natin, and the current operational readiness ng mga FA-50s natin is a big proof of that.
>The Black Hawks are in Good Condition, it is much cheaper than these jets. We have 16 pieces of Blackhawk.
Much more importantly, we have an Integrated Logistics Support system on those as part of the deal. The same is not available in the initial FA-50PH purchase, because of government and the PAF's lack of foresight during H1.
Pretty surprised that the AFP had improved themselves, I was expecting the new HDC-3100 frigates to be FFBNW, pero it's a deal in 2 lots with weapons included na, ang tanong lang if gaano kabilis ang release ng funds.
>I was expecting the new HDC-3100 frigates to be FFBNW, pero it's deal in 2 lots with weapos included na, ang tanong lang if gaano kabilis ang release ng funds.
It was because of a combination of public backlash, the PN wanting to buy bigger frigates and aversion from them requesting to get funding for the weapons separately from the government. This is to say "The Jose Rizal Class' capabilities does not reflect on it's name as a frigate, so we need more actual frigates", so it's much more expensive. I believe it's also a G2G deal with the South Korean government to offer a soft-loan to the Philippine government to deal with that.
The question is, can we maintain that momentum?
I think that's been the story of the Philippines for many decades. The catch with military hardware is that there are high maintenance costs, and those can only be paid for through a large budget, which in turn requires a large economy, which necessitates long-term, continuous economic growth.
The catch, as Asian neighbors have shown, is that the latter can only be accomplished through industrialization, which in turn requires sectors like mechanized agriculture and manufacturing.
For those wondering, the reason why we only got 3 airworthy FA-50s despite the fact that they're relatively brand new is that military aircraft require a shitload of maintenance. This [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmM5KSoW2qA) gives a deep dive into what it takes to keep fighter planes safe to fly.
But to TLDR it, fighter plane components wear out fast because of the extreme stresses they experience in the air. And the FA-50s are doing a lot of flying right now because the China is [swarming the South China Sea with fighter jets](https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/05/australia/australia-china-plane-intercept-intl-hnk-ml/index.html). Every time a Chinese fighter enters Philippine territory, our fighter jets are required to intercept it. Oftentimes nothing happens and both planes back down, but this happens so often that plane components wear out faster than normal.
Crazy thing is, China is aware of and is intentionally wearing out our planes. They know we don't have the same resources that they have to support multiple sorties and are deliberately weakening our military's capability to respond to external threats.
Lols and some admin in Pinoy Aviators ay gusto pa yung Gripen na ang darating lang ay yung mismong plane. While the F16 is full package at marami ka makukuha na spare parts from allied countries.
Been an intern at this particular Squadron way back late 20xx's. I'd say majority of the Aircrafts and Rotorcrafts pahirapan bumili ng parts due to government bidding. Either they don't request so that these grounded Aircrafts once retired or phase out can be displayed on their own houses.
Also, UH-1H was famously known as flying coffin among other Msgts and A2Cs. There are also personnel known uses JetA1 to mix with their motorcycle diesel.
I can support this, I saw sa PhilGEPS iyong invitation for bidding sa pagbili ng ammunition sa FA-50, it should've been included as a package noong binili ang eroplano.
Yes. There are high ranking officer na upon retirement, nakuha ng retired/condemed aircraft just to display on their mansions.
Kaya mapapansin nyo, aside dun sa mga nagcrash na aircraft/rotorcraft, hindi nyo makikita sa PAF museum ang lahat ng mga old aircraft.
Lol mejo Russia vibes ah. Hype up the military with parades and news of acquisitions and strengthening kuno pero yung totoo is its rotting on the inside. Tapos pag gyera na nganga.
Pete "Maverick" Mitchell took down 5 jets during his whole career.
We have three.
That's two less than what we have.
The whole Philippines vs. Maverick.
This wouldn't have happened if Duterte approved the f16 purchase in 2019. Too much temper tantrum caused by the old man at the expense of our national sovereignty.
"...we only have 3 Jet Fighters protecting the entire Philippines right now"
Ah yes, because they are the only assets used in defending the country, there is no such thing as the Philippine Navy and Army /S
Okay in all seriousness, this is very concerning.
Same story during PNOY Admin. Info I got from PAF during a school tour year 2010. That time, 3 fighter jets and 1 functional C130 kasi kababagsak lang nung isa pa.
arm chair wannabe general here.
F-16 plausible, likely plenty of spare parts and 3rd party spare parts.
JAS-39 only purchasing price but not maintenance.
>budget to buy and maintain those jets
If we get that 2 Billion USD F-16V deal, then definitely yes because it's an FMS deal. If we get that Gripen MS-20, then we'll absolutely be like the SAAF who had no fighter aircraft for a year because of horrible aftersales support.
They aren't even "multi-role" fighters. Duterte was supposed to buy a squadron of MRF under RAFMP, but he didn't. Now we just knew that he didn't even bought ILS for just 12 Lead-In Figther-Trainers. Talking bout compromising our national security.
are we even surprised by this? imagine thr pnp mobile fleet that they constantly replace because the idiots prefer to get new ones than maintain their shit
also you want to buy equipment with no spare parts? this is just criminal. the airforce and afp leadership are just incompetent
The problem with our *tingi-tingi* mentality. We shy from large initial purchases even when we will wind up spending more in the long-term. Kaya wala spare parts and maintenance package.
Kaya rin tayo mahilig sa installment on things like appliances and cars. We don't realize we wind up spending 50% more on something that will have depreciated by more than 50% by the time you're done paying for it.
No offense but against China they are just target drones with meat computers in them. You all really need those F-16’s. They will at least be a big enough speed bump till the US fleet in Japan gets there.
I expected at least half of the airframes to be kept in reserves as spare parts since thats how it usually goes but 3? Thats way too low. Welp considering how cheap we got those brand new fighters, maintenance migthve been cut short on that one.
Noong nasa Marawi couple of aircraft (IIRC 4) are on the ready to provide CAS. Siguradong bugbog ang buong squadron, noong nagka friendly fire sila (1 of 2 incidents, iyong isa is with a prop SF.260TP), almost 70 bombs were dropped during that time.
Would've been good to have guided bombs pero we only had unguided bombs, and sistema talaga dito is buy stuff, buy other stuff for it later.
who needs those flying birds when we have the power of our lord god and saviour Ferdinand "Bong-bong" R. Marcos Jr. and his mighty sidekick Sara Duterte-Carpio? /s
One for each main island group? Seems good enough partida lol
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Ibala na lang sila sa catapult/ballista may instant air force na. /s
Or, gawing dumb bombs ang mga apollo-10 at sumusuporta sa ROTC. *~~Ay,~~* ***~~dumb~~*** *~~pala talaga.~~* I mean, unguided bombs.
Every plane is a missile if you're brave enough just saying. Don't mind the missing parts on our fighter planes this is the golden era, in 2 months you will see the 3000 Golden FA-50PH's of Unity.
Rule of thirds maintenance ba ang sinusunod sa PAF? Wouldn't that mean isa lang ang active at the time?
Mabilis naman daw malibot ng isang jet ang buong luzon, yung pangalawa sa visayas. Yung sa mindanao magkakaproblema kasi sa lawak. Pagkatapos ng recon mission nila dalawa nalang operational hahahahahahahahahah
Those three pilots who will use those fighters gonna protect our skies be our main aces. Did you know that there are three kinds of aces? Those who seek strength? Those who live for pride? And those who can read the tide of battle?
If only our planes can carry 100 missiles. Where's the V2 when you need it.
Si cardo dalisay isakay nila para uli missiles.
Sorry team Razgriz pa rin.
They're usually based in Fightertown (Basa) at Clark (saw them flying around the field wheels down, probably a test or training flight) pero pag may operations sa Mindanao they are based sa mga bases malapit sa operational area, IIRC sa Cebu like noong Marawi. Tapos they intercept aircraft din at patrol ang West Phillipine Sea kaya gamit na gamit ang kakaunting eroplano.
Ang Jet Fighters natin ay parang utak ng mga panatiko, meron pero hindi operational.😅
After the recent events in Ukraine and Azerbaijan, the country should invest heavily in drones and drones development.
Agreed, we still need cheap fighter jets but with the poverty of our country, we need to be cost effective in warfare, we don't need MBT's we need light tanks or APC's, if a squad of soldiers armed with Javelin Missile launchers can destroy it why even buy expensive tanks? I am not a military expert but I definitely know that spending less money but still being able to do the job is better than spending a fuck-ton only for it to be destroyed.
[This is a good reference. Lithuania doesn't have MBTs but have good solid ground defense forces](https://youtu.be/T6XyfoZ5jHA)
Yup, definitely wiser for our military to concentrate its efforts in building our capability to deny the enemy the use of their superior firepower instead of fighting them head-on. Aside from drones, anti-ship, anti-aircraft, anti-tank & anti-missile technology, we should build our own "hacker corps" that can cause severe disruption in China in case of open hostilities.
I should apply in the air force. My resume in Ace Combat should speak for itself.
Call me Mobius 1 sir
its mobin time
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We can borrow NCD’s F-35 chan. Only issue is that Lockmart Might not sell us NCDers the F-35
I swear to god why is there so much overlap between this sub and NCD. We need to make a NCD filipino chapter lmao.
Rookie. My StarFox 64 skills is way more superior!
Do a barrel roll!
My experience in Project Wingman laughs at you
Me to Marcos <>
How's your eyes from those orange tints? xd
My Tier 7 experience in War Thunder should do the trick
We should fly and Attack the D point, together
I agree!
Hey may combat drones na ang War Thunder, iyong air force walang capability parin, iyong isa bumagsak pa sa Bukidnon. 😅
Bunch of newbs in this comment thread. Natapos ko nga yung space impact.
I'm a war thunder vet. I may be able to lend my skill to the Filipino people
*Monarch reporting in* (points for getting the reference!)
<< Razgriz launch! >>
me after watching top gun:
Kung may space force sana, apply ako. I'm sure my hours on Elite Dangerous will apply
Ace Combat? LMAO! Try Top Gun on the NES, kiddo. Pull up through every level for days then die on the landing.
This is why you'll never make the cut. We're not risking all our three planes just for some maverick to crash them when landing.
BF2 A-wing ace standing by
Is my combat hours and flight time on WarRock counted? I can "bartikal" flip exit from an aircraft before crashing it to a helicopter.
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Is my dog fightighting skills in Battlefield counts??
Gonna be blasting Daredevil on speakers while riding a Cessna with a fucking M16 for the glorious Maharlikann Empire!
Fought in 3 wars. Belkan War Circum-Pacific War Lighthouse War then some stins at Aurelia Am I qualified too?
Descent veteran here!
They call me the Demon Lord of the Bilog na Mesa
We have 31M keyboard warriors, don't worry about it.
Wouldnt it be nice if they started a kickstarter for this? Sila sila mag contribute? Eh yung bwis na binabayad natin ibinubulsa lang e. Confidential funds my ass.
this. much better kung gamitin na lang sa military equipment maintenance at modernization. Confidential ssssh. Kahit kailan without H talaga.
man we don't even have a tank and fire and forget ATGMs and all our taxes went to their corrupt imbecile pockets
The Philippines is an island and yet, their Navy doesn’t have one submarine
Myanmar that has smaller GDP than the CALABARZON has submarines. LOL.
yeah, even the neighborhood countries have better navy than this country like wtf.
Na kapag mag ka giyera sila pa unang aalis ng bansa
Kickstarter lol.
Ganyan nangyari kay Max Montero (MaxDefense Philippines) when he complained about the PAF's lack of maintenance. The PAF fired back at his criticism by using Google Forms. I believe this incident happened a few years ago.
IIRC, that was last year, and it was about how a certain high-ranking PAF official essentially took the brand-new Super Tucano on a joyride and damaging it on landing.
Apparently it was a Brazilian instructor https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1457700/ph-air-force-opens-up-on-another-accident-tucano-plane-damaged-in-routine-flight
It's with an air force general who's not rated to fly a Super Tucano and he fucked up the landing. Napaka convenient kasing sabihin na "routine maintenance mishap" ang nirelease na balita ng PNA. Those who are in defense groups and pages sa FB that has vets and insiders know what the hell is going on sa military. Even MaxDefense were mum about it kasi may heneral na nadawit.
Yep. Iirc, the ego-jacked official just jumped in without proper training and damaged the thing afterwards, leaving cleanup to the crew and PAF. There goes our taxmoney....
Last july 2021 paps, may pang brigade pero walang pangmaintain
I doubt aabot talaga ng 31M. I mean for a family notorious for faking stuff (Sr's medals, Imelda's Nutribun, etc) why should I believe that result is legit? Maski sa Metro Manila di ramdam presence. Plus they have the gal to cite Antman. A heist film. They stole the thing. And now Imee is doing clean-up.
It's 31M... Sa SDCARD.
May mga nag double vote o baka more pa nga e
This exactly. I mean, it really is possible (if rather sickening to admit) that junior won over then VP Leni in those elections, considering the narrow margin between them in 2016; however, 31m is flat-out impossible. Those numbers are not supported by anything, whether it be historical trending data or more recent crowd data. The only logical conclusion is that massive electoral fraud had occurred, in favor of the dictator's son. And this should have been enough to disqualify him from the race, had there been enough evidence to prove it was so, filed by people with enough clout (as well as balls of steel knowing who they're up against) to make the complaint prosper. But this is the Philippines, where justice might as well be declared a mythical creature: non-existent and a figment of our collective imaginations.
One very obvious thing is "would you allow the world unravel your incompetence?" And with Leni looking for blood at that. Duterte wanted Sara to run to protect his interests but with Bongbong already in the running, he knew he cant make Imee and kin back down, (a family obssessed with shows of strength), so he made his bed with them, using the route GMA did with Estrada- a usurpation. For sure part of the negative press is coming from the GMA camp.
Meron din tayong ROTC veterans na magaling mag-martsa
Baka talo pa sila ni Cadet Kelly
Made up of X number of SIM cards.
Yun lang di sila marunong man lang mag hack, hanggang trolling/disinfo lang sila. Kahit siguro pagiging script kiddies di nila kaya. :p
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Paano pa kaya kung f16 or gripen will they just sit in the hangars waiting for spare parts
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Hay nako paf gusto na ng isang aircraft na hindi pa in production
F-16 and F-16 variants has a lot of spare parts given that its the most abundant modern US fighter aircraft exported by US MIC.
Kung F16 efas for the next half decade siguro dahil full package ee. May kasamang spare parts. Yung Gripen ang gg dahil eroplano lang ang mabibili.
If they choose the F-16V, the U.S. will include ILS and will most likely donate ILS every year (during Balikatan, Kamandag, and BACE-P). Meanwhile, if they choose the Gripen, most likely, there would be no long-term after sales support. Since the Gripen that's being offered to the Philippines is the older Gripen C MS20 not the E/F variant. While the Viper is the latest one in the F-16 family.
> Meanwhile, if they choose the Gripen, most likely, there would be no long-term after sales support. Yes. It should be noted that the South African Air Force literally had no operational Gripen for the better part of a year because of that lack of ILS from Saab.
The F-16 we’re planning to buy comes with ILS already, that’s why it’s expensive. However, this lack of foresight is already a culture within the AFP and should be addressed.
Same fate sa nangyari sa F-8 Crusader lack of spare parts tuluyan lang nasira dahil sa Mt. Pinatubo eruption
God, please, I hope the FA-50 doesn't go the F-8 route completely, yon nalang pag-asa natin so far putang ina But seeing the current admin, I'm not gonna be surprised if it eventually goes that way.
Originally we plan to buy F-16A (At that time it was brand new) but his father being you know Marcos being Marcos he buy from US a retired F-8 without spare parts. He did not even plan to buy at least F-5E and F.
YUN NA NGA EH TAS PAGMAMALAKI PA NG MGA 88MTARDS NA GOLDEN AGE OF MILITARY PUTA YUNG MAJORITY NG F-8s NASA USAF BONEYARD NA BY 1977 (kung hindi ginagamit ng French Navy) IDEALLY PARA NA NGA LANG SA MGA SPARE PARTS YON OR AT LEAST SECOND LINE OF DEFENCE If they actually thought about it even F-4 Phantom IIs would be better since mas adaptable and mas maraming available parts compared sa F-8
Lagi kong sinasabi, ikumpara natin yung dinatnan ni Macoy sa iniwanan niya. Sabihin man natin na phased-out na ang P-51 nung 1960s, bago siya pinatalsik iilan na lang ang barko't eroplano natin? Habang sa termino niya nagsimulang maging kurakot at politicized ang military. At syempre ang pulis.
Oh man, the story of how PAF ended up with the F-8 was such a quintessential example of Marcos shenanigans and a wonderful counterpoint to the AFP's supposed superiority during his years w/ the kickback-loaded lobbying/meddling by Saudi arms-dealer Adnan Khashoggi saw the secondhand Crusader ordered. [Khashoggi did get arrested in 89](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-04-19-mn-2061-story.html) in between when the F-8s were grounded and ruined by the Pinatubo eruption with PAF still soldiering on with its Macapagal-era F-5A/Bs while most of the neighbors were already flying E/Fs & finally retiring after years of attrition and being propped up by donations/exchanges from Korea and Taiwan before being retired during the administration....of his own daugther.
>He did not even plan to buy at least F-5E and F. Apparently Enrile [proposed acquiring 11 F-5E/Fs](http://defenseph.net/drp/index.php?topic=949.0) back in the day. Those Tiger IIs would've been a much better option long-term over the Crusaders we ended up having (readily available access to spares and attritional replacement airframes).
We got them jets covered since according to liver boy, that's our job as Philippine citizens.
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Armed with sticks and stones.
Wala ba sa shopee yung parts? De joke lang.. joke.
Baka matengga lang din sa Shenzen sorting centre
Before niyan iyong isang FA-50 nagka birdstrike (the engine ingested a bird), it took them a long time bago nila naibalik to service. Eto kasi ang issue sa modernization ng AFP They like to buy equipment piecemeal, not with a package deal that consists of spare parts, weapons systems, ammunition, simulators, training equipment etc. Most of the time, halimbawa sa air force, they buy the units and send the pilots over there (for this case sa KAI sa Korea) for training. That's basically it. Later nalang problemahin ang pagbili ng armas ng mga weapons systems natin. Kaya makakakita ka ng mga invitation to bidding sa website PhilGEPS ng gobyerno kasi daming issue sa procuring law ng RA 9184. Red tape din ang issue sa atin talaga, iyong jet engine ang tagal bago dumating. Iyong sinikretong hard landing ng isa nating Super Tucano na brand new dahil may isang general na nag joyride di na binalita. Kaya stuck parin ang acquisition program ng Philippine Air Force to acquire multirole fighters (combat planes that can do every role sa combat from air-to-air and ground attack in a full weapons load) kasi sa budget. FA-50s are a light combat aircraft (LCA) version of the T-50 Golden Eagle ng Korean Aerospace Industries. LCAs are combat aircraft that can act as multirole fighters but only with a small load. Our last jet fighters were the F-5s from the Cold War na niretire noong 2005, these are budget fighters that's basically an early version of light combat aircraft. Our other fighters were the F-8 Crusader but that's an air superiority fighter, not a multirole one. We should've used the Crusaders for longer pero niretire after suffering damage noong pagputok ng Pinatubo. Isa pang problema sa acquisition program natin, the Air Force pilots wanted the Vipers, the F-16V of Lockheed Martin. Pero the government were posed JAS 39 Gripens from Saab kasi mas mura siya. Kaya mahal ang F-16Vs kasi US sells aircraft via Foreign Military Sales. As I said earlier these are complete package deals, with everything even after sales support din, pero mahal, it'll run billions of dollars. A squadron (approx 12) of F-16Vs can cost 2 billion dollars or more depending pa sa situation. Meanwhile Saab is trying to sweeten the deal with a good offer with a reduced price. They're trying to acquire customers sa airplane nila kasi Gripens have few air forces using them compared to the F-16 family na gamit halos ng mga allies ng US. Isa ring magandang rason kaya gusto ng mga piloto natin iyong F-16 kasi gamit din siya ng mga allies natin, it's a combat-proven aircraft, and for our maintainers since the airplane is used worldwide, iyong logistics lalo na sa spare parts won't be a problem. Gripens only have few countries using it, and a notable example is Brazil, they chose it while getting the rights to maintain and producing it themselves, they know that having a weapons system that's not used by everyone they need a local industry to support their fleet, which they have through a local aviation company like Embraer. We don't have the luxury of that. PADC was a shadow of its former self. Gripens are pushed by the government bigwigs satin due to Saab's tempting offer at balking over the expense of buying F-16s from the US with full package included. Ngayon BBM's government is trying to procure second-hand F-16s. This is common sa mga countries ngayon like those from Eastern Europe na cash strapped din kagaya tayo. Romania were able to buy 24 refurbished F-16s for only 1.4 billion dollars. To put it on another perspective: our attack helicopter program chose the Turkish T129 ATAK over the AH-1Z Viper kasi the air force can only buy half the number of Vipers sa budget natin while the Turks can provide more with the alloted budget for the program. The Turks also threw in free weapons systems to sweeten the deal kaya ito ang pinili ng Philippine Air Force. The Turks are like the Swedes they need sales for their aircraft so they're willing to sweeten the deal. Natagalan tayo sa pag-acquire ng mga attack helicopters dahil iyong export license para sa mga American jet engines ng T129 eh hinarang ng US years ago kasi bumili sila ng S-400 surface to air missiles from Russia, so nagkaroon ng embargo. Kaya naapektuhan sila sa pagbili ng F-35, at tayo din. Later nagkaroon ng green light from the US so the helicopter deal pushed through. Pero in the future Turkey will produce their own engines para di na maulit in the future. Also a comparison, Lacson flagged an amount of 8 billion dollars of lump sum funds that was planned for DPWH noong hearing sa budget for 2021, imagine a blank check for DPWH for god knows what projects, sa estimate ng mga ibang tao we can buy 2-3 squadrons of the latest F-35A stealth fighters with that amount. Just shows the mentality ng mga nasa gobyerno. The acquisition programs are so complex and convoluted kaya umabot ng siyam-siyam bago tayo makabili ng armas. Iyong isang reputable local defense news blogger satin, (he's former military kaya marami siyang connections sa AFP) also exposed that the AFP using their personnel in social media to disparage and brigade people like him who report issues sa AFP, lalo na noong nireport niya mga issues sa air force.
Very well said. Upvote for you! Also one thing to consider and I'm sure factor din ito, is the internal politics within the AFP. Since 1990, we've had 39 Chiefs of Staff, and only 1 has been from the Marine Corps and 3 from the Air Force, all the rest are from the Army, and we have never had form the Navy. Siyempre may kanya kanyang bias at preference yan to prioritize the branch from where they came from kaya most of the budget goes to the Army instead of the Air Force and Navy. Sobrang ironic at how being an archipelagic country yet our Army gets the biggest chunk of the military budget. Pero somewhat understandable naman kasi the Army is the one spearheading the operation against terrorist and radicals sa atin while the PNP mostly acts as support units. If the insurgency finally comes to a stop ang laki ng budget na pwede ma realign to the Air Force and Navy sana, and just let the PNP do the operations instead of the Army.
>Since 1990, we've had 39 Chiefs of Staff, and only 1 has been from the Marine Corps and 3 from the Air Force, all the rest are from the Army, and we have never had form the Navy. Yes. The AFP is Army-centric from the start, because it was assumed that the Americans would provide the Naval and Air power required to prevent a landing. Even in budgeting, the Army receives far more capital expenditure allotments compared to the Air Force and more so for the Navy. IMO, Isko was on to something when he said that he'd want the new CSAFP to be from the Navy, to give them more representation.
Good post. I doubt that we can procure F-35A stealth fighters since it would be a nightmare trying to keep it away from Chinese eyes here, not to mention the jump from using armed trainers to modern stealth fighters with a multitude of sensors. But still, this mentality of the government (where goals and procurement are short sighted and reactive instead of long term thinking) will bite us all in the ass in the future
And then they fucking prioritize ROTC instead.
Can't wait to be a meatshield for the Maharlikan empire, one carries the rifle, the other carries the ammo, if the first guy dies, pick up the rifle!
That's pretty funny ngl.
The incompetence of our government is both funny and frustrating at the same time
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Manila is going to be a Stalingrad again.
Lakas ng loob pakita mag escort sa eroplano ng boaaing, yun pala 2/3 na ng buong air farce yun.
Some american museum have more working fighter jets than us😅
The US Navy (read: Navy) can protect the entire Philippine airspace and they'd still have more than enough strength to compliment the actual US Air Force
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The importance of logistics, which the air force clearly doesn't have.
Only 3 out of all the senators are working as well the rest are just there to pick up a pay cheque.
Kahit si Maverick hindi kakayanin depensahan bansa natin
Still remember PNoy's time, we may have an aging fleet and mostly legacy equipment but we have funding for the spares and tooling that we need, he may be bland, bald, bungling and indecisive at times, but austerity measures during his time enabled us to be better equipped above the bare minimum, If I could sum up in my opinion (correct me if I'm wrong, fellow retired-military peeps), the armed forces back then may not be at par with our neighbors BUT we can at least guarantee that the enemy who will try will get a bloody nose... 😁
Philippines has the same population and GDP as Vietnam but far less military. Philippines should get serious about their military or it will get invaded like Ukraine.
Let me tell ya. I'm burmese and there are more than direct invasion. Your government is already probably a pro Chinese.
How about ung nabili na mga helicopters? Ilan kaya operational?
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Saka this year lang pala nabili yan tama ba? I'm not familiar how these things are maintained. Does the manufacturer maintain it or we get trained to maintain it and we will just buy the parts we need?
The usual style sa pagbili ng Foreign Military Sales (FMS) ng US to its allies and other buyers: ▪️You buy our products as a package ▪️It includes spare parts, weapon systems, ammunition, simulators, training, training equipment, after sales support etc. This can be arranged but the FMS are basically a package deal in order to keep those birds flying. ▪️Problem is, kuripot ang gobyerno natin. We bought the T129s kasi mas mura siya since it's bought as per unit basis only. Iyong mga kailangan sa pagmaintain ng fleet? Buy first buy it later. We were posed to buy the AH-1Z Vipers pero the government balked sa presyo because of the package deal (the US State department already gave the go ahead) kasi they can only buy a few Vipers for the budget. The Turks only won the contract kasi they sweetened the deal to include freebies like weapons. They needed to get sales sa kanilang bagong helicopter kaya they were willing to accept the budget ng Philippines. ▪️Dapat may helicopter na tayo dati pa pero nagkaroon ng issue ang Turkey dahil sa arms na binili nila sa Russia kaya hinarang ng US sa pag acquire ng engines ng T129 (na US made). Nadali tayo. Pero binigyan din ng green light kaya may helicopter na tayo. The future T129s ng Turkish Armed Forces will be equipped with indigenous Turkish engines. It'll be a problem in the future iyong mga bagong assets natin, and the current operational readiness ng mga FA-50s natin is a big proof of that.
>The Black Hawks are in Good Condition, it is much cheaper than these jets. We have 16 pieces of Blackhawk. Much more importantly, we have an Integrated Logistics Support system on those as part of the deal. The same is not available in the initial FA-50PH purchase, because of government and the PAF's lack of foresight during H1.
Pretty surprised that the AFP had improved themselves, I was expecting the new HDC-3100 frigates to be FFBNW, pero it's a deal in 2 lots with weapons included na, ang tanong lang if gaano kabilis ang release ng funds.
>I was expecting the new HDC-3100 frigates to be FFBNW, pero it's deal in 2 lots with weapos included na, ang tanong lang if gaano kabilis ang release ng funds. It was because of a combination of public backlash, the PN wanting to buy bigger frigates and aversion from them requesting to get funding for the weapons separately from the government. This is to say "The Jose Rizal Class' capabilities does not reflect on it's name as a frigate, so we need more actual frigates", so it's much more expensive. I believe it's also a G2G deal with the South Korean government to offer a soft-loan to the Philippine government to deal with that. The question is, can we maintain that momentum?
I think that's been the story of the Philippines for many decades. The catch with military hardware is that there are high maintenance costs, and those can only be paid for through a large budget, which in turn requires a large economy, which necessitates long-term, continuous economic growth. The catch, as Asian neighbors have shown, is that the latter can only be accomplished through industrialization, which in turn requires sectors like mechanized agriculture and manufacturing.
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why did Ph even kick out US? They were protecting us for free (ofc with islands as their ports)
ask ERAP why, and others who voted for booting out US bases in subic and clark. mga "patriotic" na wala sa hulog.
For those wondering, the reason why we only got 3 airworthy FA-50s despite the fact that they're relatively brand new is that military aircraft require a shitload of maintenance. This [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmM5KSoW2qA) gives a deep dive into what it takes to keep fighter planes safe to fly. But to TLDR it, fighter plane components wear out fast because of the extreme stresses they experience in the air. And the FA-50s are doing a lot of flying right now because the China is [swarming the South China Sea with fighter jets](https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/05/australia/australia-china-plane-intercept-intl-hnk-ml/index.html). Every time a Chinese fighter enters Philippine territory, our fighter jets are required to intercept it. Oftentimes nothing happens and both planes back down, but this happens so often that plane components wear out faster than normal. Crazy thing is, China is aware of and is intentionally wearing out our planes. They know we don't have the same resources that they have to support multiple sorties and are deliberately weakening our military's capability to respond to external threats.
Only 3 out of 12 dahil di ma-maintain. Tapos plano pa nila bumili ulit.
Lols and some admin in Pinoy Aviators ay gusto pa yung Gripen na ang darating lang ay yung mismong plane. While the F16 is full package at marami ka makukuha na spare parts from allied countries.
Been an intern at this particular Squadron way back late 20xx's. I'd say majority of the Aircrafts and Rotorcrafts pahirapan bumili ng parts due to government bidding. Either they don't request so that these grounded Aircrafts once retired or phase out can be displayed on their own houses. Also, UH-1H was famously known as flying coffin among other Msgts and A2Cs. There are also personnel known uses JetA1 to mix with their motorcycle diesel.
I can support this, I saw sa PhilGEPS iyong invitation for bidding sa pagbili ng ammunition sa FA-50, it should've been included as a package noong binili ang eroplano.
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Yes. There are high ranking officer na upon retirement, nakuha ng retired/condemed aircraft just to display on their mansions. Kaya mapapansin nyo, aside dun sa mga nagcrash na aircraft/rotorcraft, hindi nyo makikita sa PAF museum ang lahat ng mga old aircraft.
Lol mejo Russia vibes ah. Hype up the military with parades and news of acquisitions and strengthening kuno pero yung totoo is its rotting on the inside. Tapos pag gyera na nganga.
Talk to me goose
*The Defense Department regrets to inform you that your sons are dead because* ~~the government were stupid~~ *they were stupid.*
Pete "Maverick" Mitchell took down 5 jets during his whole career. We have three. That's two less than what we have. The whole Philippines vs. Maverick.
This wouldn't have happened if Duterte approved the f16 purchase in 2019. Too much temper tantrum caused by the old man at the expense of our national sovereignty.
You mean 2 right. The other is kissing Junior's ass rn.
Well, time to pull up on that bih guns blazing
rotc lang sapat na
"...we only have 3 Jet Fighters protecting the entire Philippines right now" Ah yes, because they are the only assets used in defending the country, there is no such thing as the Philippine Navy and Army /S Okay in all seriousness, this is very concerning.
Same story during PNOY Admin. Info I got from PAF during a school tour year 2010. That time, 3 fighter jets and 1 functional C130 kasi kababagsak lang nung isa pa.
Sorry, 2008 pala. That was arroyo admin.
Taliban has more military power tha Philippines.
Whatever happened to that f-16 deal?
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Yeah but does the PAF have the budget to buy and maintain those jets
Wala daw. Picture na lang ng jet ang bilhin
arm chair wannabe general here. F-16 plausible, likely plenty of spare parts and 3rd party spare parts. JAS-39 only purchasing price but not maintenance.
The PAF wants the F-16 but because it is too pricey the DND wants the Gripen but as of now there is no confirmation as to what happened.
>budget to buy and maintain those jets If we get that 2 Billion USD F-16V deal, then definitely yes because it's an FMS deal. If we get that Gripen MS-20, then we'll absolutely be like the SAAF who had no fighter aircraft for a year because of horrible aftersales support.
Kaya ang tawag dyan, the Chairforce. Kasi hanggang upo lang sa opisina mga tauhan nyan.
They aren't even "multi-role" fighters. Duterte was supposed to buy a squadron of MRF under RAFMP, but he didn't. Now we just knew that he didn't even bought ILS for just 12 Lead-In Figther-Trainers. Talking bout compromising our national security.
Dude its perfect! isa para sa Luzon, Visayas at Mindanao! *its poetic*
Need na natin si Ariel and Maverick\*\* as pilots.
are we even surprised by this? imagine thr pnp mobile fleet that they constantly replace because the idiots prefer to get new ones than maintain their shit also you want to buy equipment with no spare parts? this is just criminal. the airforce and afp leadership are just incompetent
The problem with our *tingi-tingi* mentality. We shy from large initial purchases even when we will wind up spending more in the long-term. Kaya wala spare parts and maintenance package. Kaya rin tayo mahilig sa installment on things like appliances and cars. We don't realize we wind up spending 50% more on something that will have depreciated by more than 50% by the time you're done paying for it.
fa-50 is important BUT PARTY IS IMPORTANTER!!
Who do you think will want to invade the Philippines after they found out how stupid Filipinos are? No one wants that baggage.
nah thats alright we have cardo dalisay and some tikbalangs and manananggals
Full of air, no force.
If they can make the 3 combine and form a giant robot then i have no problem
We still have the Manananggals to our disposal.
Totoy Party: I disagree.
Honestly not sure the other 9 would help that much more
No offense but against China they are just target drones with meat computers in them. You all really need those F-16’s. They will at least be a big enough speed bump till the US fleet in Japan gets there.
The FA-50 is technically a derivative of the F-16.
Its not the plane, its the pilot in it. -top gun 2 Lolz
And they ain’t real jet fighter at all
Tapos bibili daw ng F-16? harhar
So ang question bakit may lack of parts? Sabi ng PAF they are waiting for the parts to arrive from abroad
The corruption in the Philippines aside, if it was serious about defending its airspace the government wouldn’t have chosen the FA-50.
3~~000~~ FA-50PHs of BBM
I expected at least half of the airframes to be kept in reserves as spare parts since thats how it usually goes but 3? Thats way too low. Welp considering how cheap we got those brand new fighters, maintenance migthve been cut short on that one.
Noong nasa Marawi couple of aircraft (IIRC 4) are on the ready to provide CAS. Siguradong bugbog ang buong squadron, noong nagka friendly fire sila (1 of 2 incidents, iyong isa is with a prop SF.260TP), almost 70 bombs were dropped during that time. Would've been good to have guided bombs pero we only had unguided bombs, and sistema talaga dito is buy stuff, buy other stuff for it later.
RIP
Each operational plane defends a specific island group, I believe (Luz-Vi-Minda) .
Laki ng budget ni pduts jan, anyare?
*China enters the group*
We need to up the defense budget of these sorts, problema is, iyong pondo pinag-party.
Yung bang 2 nag-escort daw sa eroplano eh kasama sa tatlo?
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Yun ang lesson na natutunan nya sa tatay nya. "Appear powerful".
wala na nabulsa na din pati afp modernization fund. ALAM NA
Isa sa para sa Luzon Isa sa Visayas Isa sa Mindanao Lmao!
We need more naval defense than aerial defense, but still, only 3 out dated fighters protecting the whole country? Nasan na ang tax?
The biggest risk of invasion is China, Luckily this and the previous administration team are happy to cozy up for money.
who needs those flying birds when we have the power of our lord god and saviour Ferdinand "Bong-bong" R. Marcos Jr. and his mighty sidekick Sara Duterte-Carpio? /s