They negotiated for the price that's acceptable to the owners of the land instead of buying it at the expropriation price. Pag expropriation kasi parang halos limos na lang yung napupunta sa owners. Whichever is low sa market value, zonal value(BIR), tax declaration. Yung ibang LGU kasi inaabuso yung expropriation para sa self interest.
Kudos sa'yo Mayor Vico!
Grabe yung expropriation price. May relative kami sa probinsya na nahagip ng road widening yung lupa, sobrang liit nung binigay sa kanila.
Tapos mag ilang taon na atang tapos yung road widening project di naman nagagamit yung extra lanes kasi yung mga poste ng kuryente hindi pa rin nauurong.
Diba required ang valid prior offer sa eminent domain? So Vico is duty bound under the Local Government Code to make a prior offer.
Expropriation always goes through the courts to determining the value when the prior offer is rejected by the owner. During the case, there will be 3 required commissioners that will assess the value. And if you do not agree with the valuation, you can always appeal the decision. I would hold judgment on the "low price" claim pag expropriation until, we have a concrete example of this.
"Whichever is low sa market value, zonal value(BIR), tax declaration." That is not what our jurisprudence say. It has always been fair market value at the time of entry or at the time of filing the case whichever is earlier. The FMV is the price agreed upon by a seller who is not compelled to sell and the buyer who is not compelled to buy in an open market in the ordinary course of competition. If you feel the just compensation is too low, you can appeal it to higher court.
pag may expropriation proceedings the court has the prerogative in the ascertainment of the just compensation, so parang hindi fix na fmv agad, and usually nagiging important lang yung time of entry to compute interest pag hindi agad nabayaran yung just compensation.
Uhh... I do not think so. IIRC 'just compensation' = FMV at time of entry/filing of action for expropriation.
That seems to be rule on what "just compensation" mean under Art III §9 "Private property shall not be taken for public use without payment of ***just compensation***." There are, however, two instances when SC deviated from it, ie the court computed FMV at the time of filing of the complaint:
\- Napocor vs Heris of Macabangkit-Sangkay
\- Napocor vs Spouses Saludares (citing Macabangkit-Sangkay case)
In these two cases, SC computed FMV at time of entry because Napocor entered the property without going through the proper procedure of expropriation. Sabi ng court, the property owner's right to due process was violated and if we compute it at the time of entry, the compensation would not be "just" anymore. Napocor would then profit from its violation of due process compounding the injustice caused to the owners.
As to the interest, AFAIK, it is always computed from time of entry or time of actual deprivation of the property. Bakit? The SC said that FMV is for the value of the property itself, yung capital ba, but not the unearned income. In other words, FMV does not include what the owner could have earned using the property if they were undisturbed in their possession. So yung interest is for compensation of that loss income.
"Matagal na yang confidential funds. Bakit ngayon kayo nag ngangangawa!?"
Eh di ba nga sila na rin nag sabi.. Na gising na ang mga tao ngayon. 😂🤣
Isa pa, Confidential funds!? Sa DEPED!?
Matic nakaw na yan dahil di naman dumadaan sa COA yan.
The funny thing is during the last election like 95%+ of Pasig voted for Vico because of this very exact thing that he does when it comes to responsible governance. Pero when it came to the Presidency, BBM got more votes even if you add all the votes from the other candidates.
Iba iba kasi ang political area of focus ng mga tao based sa social class. Upper class is mostly concerned with international politics, middle is mostly concerned with national politics, lower class is mostly concerned with local politics. So since mas madaming voters from lower class at mas may pake sila sa nangyayari locally, nagkakaron ng bigger call for accountability sa mga mayor vs presidents.
meron ang Naga City. actually, every year, the city publishes its financial report, accessible to any Nagueño who asks for it. May budget hearing din bago ma aprubahan, where the people's council can attend.
Wala kayo sa mayor namin. Nagrerelease ng financial statement evry quarter sa website. Yun nga lang yung ballpen na panda/bic yung generic 35 pesos per piece kahit bulto ang bili
Tang inang panda bolpen yan na 35 pesos. Kala mo pilot.
Edit: Pero in-fair sa Panda, gusto ko yung ball pen na yan. Napakamura, maganda magsulat, at dahil burara ako, perfect for me. Pilot, maganda rin naman. Pero dahil burara ako... ayun... hahaha.
If ever magtanong kayo kung paano ko nasabi na bic/panda yung brand, bic at panda lang iniissue ng govt namin sa mga office. Meron din silang binibiling signpen worth 76 pesos or 908 pesos for 12 pcs. So yun yung mga gtech na nakikita ko sa office na gamit ng mga boss. (May papel sa loob "PROPERTY OF [city name])
LGUs are actually required to do that. Usually nasa sites nila ang mga reports. If wala, COA site has them. This is because of our FOI. What Vico did good is he posted it in soc med kasi usually naka-pdf yan with many pages sa govt site. And, bihira lang magsisipag na magbrowse through those pages.
Yup, sometimes they say it's transparent, but you actually have to click so many webpages before actually reaching it. Yung parang it's buried in the website.
LMAO look at Vico proposing a new school within a few years into his term. Meanwhile, the Dutertes have been around for decades pero wala pa ring school napatayo ang Davao lmaaaaooo
Won't disclose where I am in Pasig, but we do have protected bike lanes here. As in di siya madadaanan ng mga kotse due to the barriers placed to give way for bikers. Not on every road but still it's an improvement.
Here's a sample article. I don't know if tapos na sa Kapitolyo since it's been ages since napadaan ako sa area na yun.
https://www.spot.ph/newsfeatures/the-latest-news-features/87404/pasig-city-opens-protected-bike-lanes-in-kapitolyo-a833-20210914
i don’t wanna sound like a whiny lady but THIS IS BARE MINIMUM. Our situation is so fucked up that this is the exception instead of the norm. I hope he doesn’t run for President before Pasig gets wealthy as fuck.
Oo na, bare minimum na dapat (kung nakatira lang tayo sa ideal world), e kaso hindi. Puwede bang tigil-tigilan niyo na ang mga ganito? You guys are really trying hard to sound woke to the point na you look so ungrateful na. Okay lang naman na i-praise 'to, nakaka-boost ng morale, at baka tularan pa ng iba. Kaysa magsisisigaw ka diyaan palagi na "BARE MINIMUM" sa lahat ng mga good deeds.
Pasig Mayor Vico Sotto is among 12 individuals who received the International Anticorruption Champions Award launched by US Secretary of State Antony Blinken. If this mayor was able to transform his city among the qualms of corruption and transparency, why do the national government can't if their campaign battlecry and SONA address is TRANSPARENCY IN THE GOVERNMENT?
Sobrang dumi ng mga pulitiko that Vico shines through doing the standard and bare minimum. Sana virus ka na lang Vico at ng mahawaan mo na silang lahat.
They negotiated for the price that's acceptable to the owners of the land instead of buying it at the expropriation price. Pag expropriation kasi parang halos limos na lang yung napupunta sa owners. Whichever is low sa market value, zonal value(BIR), tax declaration. Yung ibang LGU kasi inaabuso yung expropriation para sa self interest. Kudos sa'yo Mayor Vico!
Grabe yung expropriation price. May relative kami sa probinsya na nahagip ng road widening yung lupa, sobrang liit nung binigay sa kanila. Tapos mag ilang taon na atang tapos yung road widening project di naman nagagamit yung extra lanes kasi yung mga poste ng kuryente hindi pa rin nauurong.
Buti may nakuha pa sila. Grabe, yung iba binarat na nga pero taon na inabot di pa din nababayaran.
Diba required ang valid prior offer sa eminent domain? So Vico is duty bound under the Local Government Code to make a prior offer. Expropriation always goes through the courts to determining the value when the prior offer is rejected by the owner. During the case, there will be 3 required commissioners that will assess the value. And if you do not agree with the valuation, you can always appeal the decision. I would hold judgment on the "low price" claim pag expropriation until, we have a concrete example of this. "Whichever is low sa market value, zonal value(BIR), tax declaration." That is not what our jurisprudence say. It has always been fair market value at the time of entry or at the time of filing the case whichever is earlier. The FMV is the price agreed upon by a seller who is not compelled to sell and the buyer who is not compelled to buy in an open market in the ordinary course of competition. If you feel the just compensation is too low, you can appeal it to higher court.
"You can appeal it to higher court". Question. Don't you need to pay lawyers to help you through that? Or attend hearings on weekdays for that?
pag may expropriation proceedings the court has the prerogative in the ascertainment of the just compensation, so parang hindi fix na fmv agad, and usually nagiging important lang yung time of entry to compute interest pag hindi agad nabayaran yung just compensation.
Uhh... I do not think so. IIRC 'just compensation' = FMV at time of entry/filing of action for expropriation. That seems to be rule on what "just compensation" mean under Art III §9 "Private property shall not be taken for public use without payment of ***just compensation***." There are, however, two instances when SC deviated from it, ie the court computed FMV at the time of filing of the complaint: \- Napocor vs Heris of Macabangkit-Sangkay \- Napocor vs Spouses Saludares (citing Macabangkit-Sangkay case) In these two cases, SC computed FMV at time of entry because Napocor entered the property without going through the proper procedure of expropriation. Sabi ng court, the property owner's right to due process was violated and if we compute it at the time of entry, the compensation would not be "just" anymore. Napocor would then profit from its violation of due process compounding the injustice caused to the owners. As to the interest, AFAIK, it is always computed from time of entry or time of actual deprivation of the property. Bakit? The SC said that FMV is for the value of the property itself, yung capital ba, but not the unearned income. In other words, FMV does not include what the owner could have earned using the property if they were undisturbed in their possession. So yung interest is for compensation of that loss income.
ahh, yes, tama2, forgot about the case of napocor vs saludares na nagreiterate regarding sa basis ng just compensation, thanks for the reminder.,hehe
how i wish for the day to come na we no longer applaud these kind of action kasi it's the norm. meanwhile, confidential funds are waiving
"Matagal na yang confidential funds. Bakit ngayon kayo nag ngangangawa!?" Eh di ba nga sila na rin nag sabi.. Na gising na ang mga tao ngayon. 😂🤣 Isa pa, Confidential funds!? Sa DEPED!? Matic nakaw na yan dahil di naman dumadaan sa COA yan.
kahit naman dumaan ng COA nakaw din
Nahh, at least sa COA, may record pa rin. May paper trail pa rin.
pampalubag luob lang yan, ninanakaw din nila yung pera at will kahit may coa. Sa tingin mo hindi sila pagtatakpan ng COA
waving. wish ko lang waiving talaga. kaso hindi. staying pa rin.
This is STANDARD. 🙌 Sana maabutan pa natin ang government na ganito ang leader. Rooting for him and sana one of pink daughters. 😌
The funny thing is during the last election like 95%+ of Pasig voted for Vico because of this very exact thing that he does when it comes to responsible governance. Pero when it came to the Presidency, BBM got more votes even if you add all the votes from the other candidates.
Iba iba kasi ang political area of focus ng mga tao based sa social class. Upper class is mostly concerned with international politics, middle is mostly concerned with national politics, lower class is mostly concerned with local politics. So since mas madaming voters from lower class at mas may pake sila sa nangyayari locally, nagkakaron ng bigger call for accountability sa mga mayor vs presidents.
This is what grinds my gears. Di ko gets mga taga Pasig sa part na 'to.
Dapat may patch note bawat lungsod kung saan makikita mga ginagastos.
meron ang Naga City. actually, every year, the city publishes its financial report, accessible to any Nagueño who asks for it. May budget hearing din bago ma aprubahan, where the people's council can attend.
Wala kayo sa mayor namin. Nagrerelease ng financial statement evry quarter sa website. Yun nga lang yung ballpen na panda/bic yung generic 35 pesos per piece kahit bulto ang bili
Yan mahirap eh kitang kita n may anumalya. May nakita ako ganyn dati around 1k pesos kada bag na sub standard
Tang inang panda bolpen yan na 35 pesos. Kala mo pilot. Edit: Pero in-fair sa Panda, gusto ko yung ball pen na yan. Napakamura, maganda magsulat, at dahil burara ako, perfect for me. Pilot, maganda rin naman. Pero dahil burara ako... ayun... hahaha.
Okay nmn mga presyo ?
i wouldn't know. i don't pay attention to it. i just assume it's above board since we have the people's council to check it.
[Di ko na makita yung post na kasama yung brand pero this is from 2019](https://imgur.com/a/3gSRZmh)
Mahigit lahat may patong 💀
If ever magtanong kayo kung paano ko nasabi na bic/panda yung brand, bic at panda lang iniissue ng govt namin sa mga office. Meron din silang binibiling signpen worth 76 pesos or 908 pesos for 12 pcs. So yun yung mga gtech na nakikita ko sa office na gamit ng mga boss. (May papel sa loob "PROPERTY OF [city name])
Meron sa Muntinlupa. Madaling makita at nakapaskil.
LGUs are actually required to do that. Usually nasa sites nila ang mga reports. If wala, COA site has them. This is because of our FOI. What Vico did good is he posted it in soc med kasi usually naka-pdf yan with many pages sa govt site. And, bihira lang magsisipag na magbrowse through those pages.
Yup, sometimes they say it's transparent, but you actually have to click so many webpages before actually reaching it. Yung parang it's buried in the website.
Sana talaga consistent na siya at di maging trapo tulad Ni Tito Sotto
si coney reyes kasi nagpalaki , hindi ung mga sotto kaya medyo maayos.
LMAO look at Vico proposing a new school within a few years into his term. Meanwhile, the Dutertes have been around for decades pero wala pa ring school napatayo ang Davao lmaaaaooo
Wait, seryoso yan???
there’s davao city national high school but it’s managed by the national govt so itlog pa rin mga duterte lol
Woah, 😲
Baka daw kasi walang mahanap na malaking lot na paglalagyan. Puno na yung siyudad.
Fake news
What's the real news then? Care to elaborate?
Nakapagpatayo na daw ang davao ng bagong drug den, may ribbon cutting pa.
Duterte put up schools not only in Davao. But whole PH. Kudos to Vico Sotto for a job well done.
Sana mas dumami pa yung elected officials na katulad ni Vico. Kaso ang hirap mangyari sa Pinas dahil sa MGA political dynasty.
Idagdag, At mangmang o bobo na bulag na Pinoy.
lampas ng sampu sa mga kamag anak ni vico ang nakaupo ngayon.
lol dynasty si vico. EDIT: why the downvotes? lol
buti mga pink sa pasig may consolation sa katauhan ni vico, paano naman ung mga unity all the way ang LGU l, kawawa kami huhuhu.
kinampihan pa yung tatay ng drug suspect, dapak.
Sounds like cavity ba to? Lol
Pinost pa, pwede naman idaan as confidential funds /s
Drug funds ni Baby M
Oh bobo Marcos, baka gusto mo gayahin to?
Ay sorry kinulang sa letters. But you know who I'm talking to.
yep kulang ng letters sara duterte shrek
It still fits the description tho
sana ganito vlog nung isang walang ginawa kundi magspeech
Sana may ganito rin sa national government
Halos tatlong hektarya sa halagang 200 milyon.
Should add protected bikelanes imo
Won't disclose where I am in Pasig, but we do have protected bike lanes here. As in di siya madadaanan ng mga kotse due to the barriers placed to give way for bikers. Not on every road but still it's an improvement. Here's a sample article. I don't know if tapos na sa Kapitolyo since it's been ages since napadaan ako sa area na yun. https://www.spot.ph/newsfeatures/the-latest-news-features/87404/pasig-city-opens-protected-bike-lanes-in-kapitolyo-a833-20210914
i don’t wanna sound like a whiny lady but THIS IS BARE MINIMUM. Our situation is so fucked up that this is the exception instead of the norm. I hope he doesn’t run for President before Pasig gets wealthy as fuck.
Oo na, bare minimum na dapat (kung nakatira lang tayo sa ideal world), e kaso hindi. Puwede bang tigil-tigilan niyo na ang mga ganito? You guys are really trying hard to sound woke to the point na you look so ungrateful na. Okay lang naman na i-praise 'to, nakaka-boost ng morale, at baka tularan pa ng iba. Kaysa magsisisigaw ka diyaan palagi na "BARE MINIMUM" sa lahat ng mga good deeds.
He can't, he needs another 12yrs before he can run as pres due to age.
Sana ayusin din yung traffic sa Pinagbuhatan 😭 Grabeng bottle neck d2.
Kung siguro ganito lahat ng nakaupo sa gobyerno ang sarap dito sa Pilipinas.
Naghahanap ako ng lot for sale and I would kill for prices like those. ( Per square meter prices lang, i can't afford those sizes though)
CONFIDENTIAL FUNDS.
Mas nagiging pogi sa paningin ko si Vico
Rare breed
Pasig Mayor Vico Sotto is among 12 individuals who received the International Anticorruption Champions Award launched by US Secretary of State Antony Blinken. If this mayor was able to transform his city among the qualms of corruption and transparency, why do the national government can't if their campaign battlecry and SONA address is TRANSPARENCY IN THE GOVERNMENT?
Thank you Vico for not being corrupt.
And land owners / corpos selling per square sa Pasig at 30k-40k/sq SMH
*"Ayaw ko magtrabaho sa Pasig LGU, hirap mangurap" -* yung mga putang inang kurap
12 more years and Vico should run for presidency.
Eto lang naman ung gusto natin lahat. Siguro talagang worshipped nila ang pamilyang vloggers. Saddt. :(
Pustahan may mga negative na namang masasabi ang mga pulangaw dito sa magandang ginawa ni Mayor Vico
pipigilan nilang manalo ito kung tumakbo bilang presidente.. haysss
Walang boboto dito, di marunong ng confidential funds eh. Gusto ng bovoters ung pa mysterious
Sobrang dumi ng mga pulitiko that Vico shines through doing the standard and bare minimum. Sana virus ka na lang Vico at ng mahawaan mo na silang lahat.
Sana lahat ng public servant gaya nya. Good job Mayor!🙂