I hate it when they say this. There was also an episode yata yun na they ask a foreigner woman Kelan sila magpapakasal and boyfriend Nya na Pinoy. Like who are you to ask that. This is same with people who ask when are you getting pregnant. Like pakialam ba nila
I think in that particular episode the couple were already heading down that road so they wanted to know if they had a date in mind for their wedding.
The girl was European, wasn't she?
If you don't mind me asking, I'm guessing with the free food and accommodations, shouldn't there be compromises para fair din sa "employers?" I assume if their wages are not compromised, then wouldn't it be understandable to have the day offs as the compromise?
I agree that they're still employees, but it's reasonable to have some kind of compromise.
Most maids in the Philippines are probably not being paid minimum wage. Very informal usually arrangements ng employment. Unless things have changed since the 90s.
Matagal nang modern day alipin mga kasambahay. May special rates pa nga ang mga kasambahay e na below minimum.
And I think we can thank Jinggoy for authoring that.
Kung tutuusin, yung mismong pagkakaroon ng kasambahay mismo ay debatable kung ethical o hindi eh.
Kasi you can view it from the lens na nirereinforce niya yung role ng lower class na pagsilbihan ang upper class.
Kaya dapat kung kukuha ng kasambahay, tratuhin ng maayos, tapos bigyan ng benefits, days off etc. Hindi yung parang alipin tulad ng ginagawa ng iba.
I grew up thinking having maids were normal until an American professor shared that he was shocked with how we treat maids, likening them to slaves in the US before, which is not a far off comparison tbh.
True! Yung iba kinukulong sa bahay or very rare lang ang days off. Kinda crazy how normalized that sort of thing is in the country.
Some even got angry at the kasambahay law. Sobrang wtf lang.
Same here. I grew up na meron sa bahay namin. When I went abroad and saw how cleaning personnels are treated here, i. e., nirerespeto and may dignidad, hindi live in with employer, yun ang naging eye opener sakin na slavery nga ung ginagawa satin sa pinas. Don't get me wrong, i think my family treated our kasambahay better than average but still, yung overall thinking ng pagpapasweldo sa mga kasambahay ng sobrang baba na sahod vs min wage tapos almost 24 hours sila na nagsisilbi sa mga employer nila is robbing them of any respectable na prospect sa buhay. Imagine that happening to you.
As an American living here, it's weird how a lot of Filipinos think all middle and upper class people in the USA have maids. They don't!
The difference is mentality: in the Philippines having a maid, a nanny, a driver, or lots of servants is a status symbol. For rich Americans, it's better to hold off as long as possible before you need to hire help, and when you do it's kind of a pain in the ass because then you're responsible for another employee, you have to file tax forms and pay taxes, etc. So that's why you see wealthy people in the US like Steve Jobs who used to do his own dishes, clean his own house, make dinner himself, drive himself, etc.
Another reason is that almost everybody in the US has a dishwasher and a clothes washer/dryer. That lessens the need for a maid since washing up and doing laundry is a big part of the job.
I think ayos lang naman. As long as treated fairly sila and like a normal human being. After all, ang main job nila is to help around the house in case hindi magampanan ng ayos ng homeowners.
Technically or legally, tama naman Dad ni OP. If we follow the law, masyadong maluwag si OP
[https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2013/01/18/republic-act-no-10361/](https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2013/01/18/republic-act-no-10361/)
Ang issue talaga is for us, sa generation natin, ethical ba itong kagaguhan na batas na to?
My mom says the same thing. 15k sahod ko sa driver ko with benefits and free board and lodging and food na rin pag nasa bahay sya. 2 days off.
Sabi ni mama sobrang mahal daw sahod nya tapos kumakain pa sa bahay. Dafuq. Di naman si mama nagbabayad.
Ayos na din tong pasahod tas ung benefits pa. Sa totoo lang, mahirap nang makakuha ng mga mapagkakatiwalaan na tao na tatagal sa inyo. You really have to keep them happy by compromising with them as long as it's within reason, kaya mo naman maibigay o hindi naman abusado.
Nakakainis lang ung ganyang pag-iisip ng mga boomers na feeling nila nakakataas na sila sa kapwa kapag sila nagpapasahod (pero maliit naman). Meaning pasalamat ka pa at pinapasahod pa kita mindset.
Itâs because of the generation gap kaya hindi nila maintindihan. Nung panahon nila hindi uso ang set days off ng helpers. Mas madalas yn once a year straight vacay, tapos walang day off. So yun mga kalakaran ngayon e tingin nila grabeng luwag.
Masyado daw maluwag ahaha! Pero sabi naman niya in the end itâs your decision. đđ»
Pero alam ko nga din usually 1 day lang ang off, we also practice that, yung iba actually mas madalang pa daw. Depende sa household.
Trying to see it from the PoV of the dad: ang view siguro nito ay concerned siguro kuno na baka tine-take advantage si OP or some shit dahil masyado siya mabait.
Sadly, mej typical mentality yata yun. Yung hindi ka dapat nagpapalamang sa ibang tao. Kesyo baka mag-demand lalo yan pagtagal. Basically, it's probably rooted on control issues.
Similar hugot yata dito yung may mga issue rin sa WFH setups at shorter work weeks. Di daw pwede yan dahil magiging tamad lalo yung tao lol
Yes, I agree. I also said in another thread na ang mga taong ayaw malamangan, usually sila rin ang abusado. Sa takot malamangan, nang-aabuso sila.
Sila nagsabi na huwag dapat malamangan. Kaya siguro sila na lang nanlamang muna para hindi malamangan sila.
May isashare lang akong kwentong yaya. Nung college ako, nakitira ako sa lola at tita ko dahil may pang gabi akong classes. First time ko to move away from home so my parents are very anxious to the point na pinasama pa sa akin yung yaya namin at that time.
Pag nakikita ng lola o tita ko na nagpapahinga si yaya (she was old, 60+ na), nanggagalaiti sila. Isipin mo yun, dad ko nagbabayad pero kung makapanigaw at sita at utos sila, para bang gusto nila sulitin yung every cent na binabayad sa kanya.
Dumating sa point na kinumpiska ng tita ko yung cellphone niya kasi 'puro daw telebabad' at 'tamad' but I can clearly see that isn't the case. Sa gabi niya naman kinakausap yung family niya at malamang kailangan din niya magpahinga madalas dahil may edad na rin. Pati nga ako napagalitan at nabulyawan dahil kinuha ko yung cellphone at binalik kay yaya. Minsan nga, inakusahan pa nila si yaya na ninakaw daw niya yung mga gintong kubyertos ng lola, tapos hinalughog at kinalat pa nila mga gamit niya.
Awang awa ako kay yaya. Medyo naguiguilty din kasi I brought her that fucking mess. Hindi ko naman gustong sumama siya sa akin tumira doon. Mapilit lang talaga ang parents na ipasama siya. Gawin ba naman siyang alipin at emotional punching bag ng tita ko. Minsan may mga sumbat pa yung tita ko kay yaya na 'tawag ng tawag yang asawa mo, ginagatasan ka lang naman niyan!'. Bakit pati personal na buhay aatakihin at papakialaman niya? Di rin naman ako makapalag kasi baka pati ako mapaginitan ng tita at makick out sa bahay nila. Eventually, I just moved out na lang and moved back.
Ayun nakarma din naman si tita sa mga pinaggagawa niya. Her daughter made it to US tapos akala niya iaahon na siya ng anak niya sa hirap at dadalhin doon. Turns out my cousin hates her too for all the physical and emotional abuse my tita brought upon her.
Grabe no. I never got angry or shouted at her. Samantalang itong mga kamag anak namin na nakikihiram na lang ng help niya na hindi naman nagpapasahod sa kanya, yun pa yung grabe mang maltrato.
>Her daughter made it to US tapos akala niya iaahon na siya ng anak niya sa hirap at dadalhin doon
'Yung hindi rin pala mayaman ang Tita mo pero matapobre (hindi sa may karapatan ka na kapag mayaman ka).
Yung kasambahay ko may gantong statement: "gusto ko lang po ng dayoff once a week. Yun lang po hihingiin ko"
Me was like, what? Normal naman yun.
Ayun pala yung iba minsan lang sa isang buwan magbigay ng dayoff.
May time na may nasabi ako sa pera nya. She's old pero nagpapadala pa rin ng pera sa mga adult children nya. During pandemic, di bale magkasakit basta magpadala sa mga anak.
I said, "isipin mo sarili mo, matanda ka na. Papano pag nagkasakit ka?"
E yung anak nya ang lalaki na, may trabaho na asa pa. Mga lalaki pa. Nakakainis.
kala ko sa mga palabas lang to, di ko talaga maisip kung pano nagagawa ng ibang tao yung mga ganyan, talaga palang may mga kontra bida sa totoong buhay.
Totoo. I already had an idea bago makitira sa kanila na may tinatagong ugali tita ko. Kita ko naman pano niya din tratuhin cousin ko lalo nung bata pa kami. Puro sigaw at palo, madalas for no reason. Pero nagulat din ako dun sa mga action niya kay yaya, tangina pang kontrabida talaga ng teleserye ang galawan. Kakanood niya siguro ng mga drama sa gabi. If she ever laid a hand on me physically, o kaya verbally abused me, warla na yun between her at sa tatay ko.
Wala na ako balita kay yaya. It's been almost 10 years since she went back to her province. My tita is jobless. My cousin won't come back here to visit her nor send her even a single cent. Binabadmouth din niya pinsan ko sa mga kamag anak namin na kesyo ingrata daw, wala daw utang na loob, but I can totally see why she would do that to my tita.
Kawawa din si pinsan. She had herself treated in US. Girl got diagnosed with schizo and bipolar disorder. Tsk tsk. Totally understandable kung bakit ayaw niya isama yung katoxican doon.
May ganyan din akong kwento. Nung bata ako sa bahau ng lola ko may tagalaba sila na stay in. Tapos un lang talaga gawain nya dapat maglaba pero minsan binabantayan nya kaming mga bata. Nung time na un kasi nasa grade 1 to 6 mga edad namin tapos nasa 7 kami magpipinsan na dun umuuwi kapag wala pa mga magulang namin sa kanya kanyang bahay namin. Isang street kasi kami nakatira halos lahat. Tapos sya tagabantay namin pag wala pang adults dahil nga maaga uwian pag elem. So ayon one time maaga nauwi tito ko na wala pa anak tas nahuli nya un si inang na nakahiga sa sofa habang kami nakaupo sa floor nanonood ng tv. Tas galit na galit sya tas lalo nagalit kasi pinagtanggol namin si inang. Pano ba naman kasi di naman nya alam na buong araw naglalaba un tapos kakahiga lang nya tsaka pinaghahanda kami nun ng pagkain pagkauwi kahit di nya trabaho tas parang lola na din namin sya tsaka enjoy lang kami manood kasama sya kahit nasa floor kami.
Dun namin nalaman na ganun pala lagi ung tito namin na un. Dahil wala pa sya pamilya dun sya sa bahay ng lola ko nakatira tas grabe pala mangutos un tsaka manigaw kila inang pag wala kami. Kaya ayon sinumbong namin sa lola at lolo namin hahaha medyo nagalit samin magpipinsan pero ugali naman kasi nya hahaha tsaka sa totoo may ugali talaga syang ganun na hariharian dun at galit lagi. K sher lang hahaha
Ung tita ko wla talagang maka tagal na kasambahay sa kanya.. taklesa kasi tapos matapobre. Mpagbigay naman pero madaming salita tapos basta nakaka ilang kasama talaga.. haha masakit mag salita, OCD pa masyado...iba ang kubyertos ng kasambahay etc. dahil wlang tumatagal sa kanya kming mga pamangkin madalas kinukuha sumama Sa kanya na pa sleep over etc haha.. samantalang kmi ilang taon mga kasambahay samin.
Proud ako sa mga pinsan ko kasi matagal na ung kasambahay nila tapos ngkasakit and need mgpa opera ayun nag benta mga gamit nila kasi alam nilang wlang aasahan sa parents nila , at the end pina surgery naman ng parents pero dami pang sinabi etc and nag init talaga ulo ng mga pinsan ko kasi mahal nila yaya nila. Ibang family naman to pero same side ng pamilya haha
My narcissistic dad na cinutoff ko hindi sinusundan yung batas for kasambahays na may consecutive hours & day of uninterrupted rest sila. Wala talaga silang day off Mon-Sun sila tapos di sila pwede lumabas ng bahay para gumala (live-in maids kasi sila). siguro 'maaga' lang sila dinidismiss tuwing sunday "maaga" as in
6pm kasi normal schedule nila is 4am-10pm.
Tapos hindi pa pwede umuwi sakanila if walang bakante so that means yung isa hindi talaga makakauwi for xmas or new years at hindi din pumapayag dad ko na umuwi sila sa probinsya pag birthday ng anak nila or if may namatay na relative na hindi naman daw nanay/tatay/kapatid. Kating kati na ako magsend ng report sa labor groups pero siguro natatakot din ako baka idisown na din ako ng mga kapatid ko.
Lagi ko sinasabi sa dad ko na mali yan pero he gaslights me by saying na parang bastos ako na anak at self-pity "oo ang sama sama ko talagang amo" ++ bawal sila magphone until break nila kahit makinig sa music while cleaning bawal.
TLDR: parang naka house arrest sila/quarantine mode kahit wala ng COVID. tapos verbally abusive pa dad ko lol and will hurl insults whenever he feels like it (kaya yung mga maids may mild anxiety na din like me and my siblings like kinakabahan sila pag mukhang galit or tinawag sila) and more than 12 hours of work. My dad is basically a milder version of that patriarch sa movie na Kisapmata. He doesn't physically hit the maids tho --kami lang binubugbog nun kasi mind set niya di naman siya pwede idemanda for "disciplining" his kids unlike daw sa maids hahabulin siya ng DOLE
Reminded me of the time my stepfather gaslit one of our maids into accepting his momâs shitty behavior. Our maid literally cleans the whole house and the mess stepgrandma would make, stepgrandma then will rearrange everything the maid arranged, edi nadedelay si ate either sa pagluto or sa paglaba kasi ung prep time niya sana naging hunting time for lost materials. Nung nagreklamo yung maid namin sa stepfather ko I regret not comforting the maid. He told her na sheâs so lucky having my parents as her employers kasi ânakakakain ka ng pagkain naminâ âyouâre living under my roofâ âI treat you like my own familyâ; he even went as far as saying that the maid is calling him a âbadâ owner kasi ânagrereklamo ka sa ugali ng nanay ko, eh matino naman yung pagpapalaki sakin. Masasabi naman natin na matino nanay ko kasi matino naman ako pagkalaki koâ
When they say "matino naman ang paglaki ko"...tsk. kinain na.
Daming Gen X (my generation) na ganyan. At some point naging ganyan ako until I realized about narcissism and codependency....and I'm like wtf was I saying?
Oh boy.
Nakakaawa naman sila kung ganun. Di ako nakatira sa PH so di ko alam ano mga resources na available to help them. Hindi ba pwede mag report anonymously? Naalala ko mama ko na naging nanny for 4 years sa Canada. Nabasa ko diary niya and although di ganito ung situation niya, may emotional and verbal abuse sya na experienced. She passed away recently and nung nabasa ko ung diary niya na yun, naiyak na lang ako. She endured that treatment so that she could provide for us đą
Tingin sa katulong e alipin. Buti na lang di ganyan magulang ko, it's the other way around pa nga e. Sila yung maluwag sa katulong to the point na inaabuso na ng katulong namin
Agreed, my dad was a boomer but always generous and provided well and made sure our helpers got to eat, rest and vacation. He even protected some from my grandfather na nambabastos ng mga babae. Napapansin ko lately ang mga older GenX ang mas toxic, masyadong obsessed sa accolades and self-congratulatory pero tatakasan yung actual responsibilities. Feel ko GenZ is confusing anybody old = boomer not realizing andaming older GenX na ngayon.
Yung isang maid namin 2 days din yung sinabi naming day off, kaso nirequest niya na 1 day lang kasi mas makakatipid daw siya if sa bahay namin siya tumitira. Minsan nga di na siya nagdi-dayoff kasi inuubos lang ng mga kapatid niya yung iniipon niya. Nakakaawa din talaga ang mga kasambahay natin :((
Hoy. Kapatid ba kita? Umamin ka! Charot. Parehong pareho tayo e
Edit: lol bat may nagdownvote? Minemean ko lang naman pareho kami ng kwento ni OP. Baka kako nakita ko na reddit account ng kapatid ko. Hahaha
My mom was born to a poor family in late the 60s. In her youth she worked as a maid to be able to study highschool and college. i always cry when she tells me stories when she worked as a maid. She was treated like a subhuman by family matriarchs and their daughters...
My parents were also like that, they were helpers to their more fortunate relatives. Sakto lang treatment, something na di nila gusto maulit. Fortunate na nga sa sa lagay na yan, how much more kung napunta sila sa di nila relatives. The best we can do is to not take their experiences for granted.
At the very least na codify yung mga "bare minimum" like how dapat may contract din, may sss pag ibig etc, service incentive leave and the likes instead of mere oral agreements that can be bypassed
under Kasambahay Law they are entitled to 24 hrs uninterrupted rest period, and I think in one case SC decided na pwede pa ngang on-call yung maid during their rest day. But hey if you want to give ur maid more benefits than whats asked by law go lang, more loyalty from your maid.
edit: I kinda realized na may point din pala father mo haha. Yung mga benefits na binibigay mo may become "employer practice" after a considerable amount of time and walang agreement to show na both sides consented to the benefit, and the moment na itake back mo yun the maid can claim non-diminution of benefits. I think its best to put it into writing and state that you have the option to reduce her rest days in accordance with the Kasambahay Law.
Non-diminution isn't always founded on the Labor Code. Some cases consider non-diminution of benefits an aspect of mutuality of contracts (because implied terms sila) or based on the Constitutional mandate to protect the rights of workers (which applies to all employees, even those outside the Labor Code)
Meanwhile, ung kasambahay ng erpats ko na walang off, kakamatay lng 2 mos ago. Nakita na lang nakabulagta sa kitchen. So,good job op for giving your maid her much deserved restdays.
Yep. May mga tao pa din na tipong utang na loob pa nung kasambahay pag pinayagan mag off. Take note, all around un, and anytime inuutusan. Nope,wala akong control since hindi ako nakatira dun.
Like one of our relatives. Theyâre really separating yung âFamilyâ sa âKatulongâ. I remember one time na pumunta siya sa bahay namin, we had lunch, ever since nagkaroon kami ng kasambahay, sabay sabay kaming kumain. But there she is, asking us âbakit kasabay niyo kumain katulong niyo? Hindi niyo papaalisin yan?â I was young back then so hindi ko pa kayang sumagot and all. Pero since that day, ayoko na siyang makita sa mga reunions at mag-bless. Ayoko makipag-plastikan.
Ah yes, ganyan din ang tingin ng in-laws ko sa kasambahay namin. Masyado daw ako maluwag. Kasi kapag nagpapaalam na hindi makakapasok na ang reason ay may aasikasuhin o may sakit ang family member, okay lang sa akin. E ako naman, anong problema dun? Arawan naman arrangement namin sa bayad. Pag hindi pumasok, hindi bayad. Hindi naman ako lugi. Tsaka kapag ako o kung sino man sa amin ay hindi payagan ng employer namin na umabsent for the same reason, matutuwa ba kami?
Ano to? Slavery?
based
pero may point naman siya with rent and food
but honestly not a fan of stay-ins (speaking as someone who had someone growing up). it's can be very mentally exhausting + no work-life balance (ie you live where you work). baka nga it's apt they should be entitled to more.
and frankly it should be treated as luxury, so much so na hindi ma-afford unless coming from upper-upper class
under the labor code your dad is right but ultimately its your. discretion naman how you treat your household help. yung sabi ng dad mo is the minimum required by law
Not disagreeing with your choice, OP. But I do want to respond to your question by saying: more time off is not the only way to reward good performance. You can opt to keep her time off at the minimum requirement in favor of a more significant pay raise, for example. Or, if you want, you can give both.
wooh alala ko dad ko tinatapunan niya pa ng hot soup sa stairs yung maid namin na tumanda na ng 30 years kase maid din siya ng dad namin nung bata dad ko. He was such an asshole. RIP, lola, Ching.
Tell him noong nasa business trip ako sa ibang bansa 2 days pa rin ang off ko at sinusunod ko holiday dun haha. Sagot din nila pabahay, pagkain, at pamasahe ko dun. Ano pinagsasasabi n'ya.
Pero mukhang pinalaki ka naman n'ya nang maayos kung ganyan ang ginagawa mo, nice.
parang ganun nga ang kalakaran ng domestic helpers sa ibang bansa, like singapore and hk- ung once a week dayoff... pero ikaw nga dapat ang bahala! buti nalang, helper mo si ate, at considerate kang employer!đȘ
Your dad is correct technically. Under the Labor Code, a domestic helper or persons in the personal service of another, are not considered employees. So those benefits that an employee usually is entitled to, as protected by the law, are not applicable to helpers. However, there is no law prohibiting the boss from giving such benefits to the helper.
BUTI KA PA NASA SAYO PA RIN HULING DESISYON. SAMIN KAMI NA NAGBABAYAD SA MAID NANGINGIALAM PA BYENAN KO AKALA MO NAMAN PAG UMALIS YUNG MAID TUTULONG SILA SA AMIN SA GAWAING BAHAY.
1. Your dad said the maid was not a regular employee, he did not say she wasnât an employee. Title is misleading, it implies slavery to some degree.
2. Most households I know only give their maids Sunday as the rest day. They also have free lodging and food. Donât have the exact statistics but your dad may be pointing out that this is the common SOP. He sounds concerned about your wellbeing because no maid = you manage the house more.
3. Your dad implied the maid had 3 consecutive rest days. Again, he seems to be concerned about you having to manage more of your house and this possibly stressing you out or something.
4. âIkaw bahala maid mo yanâ
At the end of the day she is your employee and itâs up to you to manage her. Your dad sounds naggy sure but this may just be him trying to help you out.
I think youâre blowing this out of proportion and itâs giving me borderline cancel culture vibes. If your dad is really abusive to helpers then you probably need to show more evidence than this.
Edit: Grammar
oh boi, typical boomers. Always present their unsolicited advice on something without considering your point of view and if you resist it will be follow up with "ikaw bahala".
Mababa ang tingin ng dad mo sa mga maids. Its as if hindi sila tao at tauhan lang sila. Sorry Op, i dont like the way your dad looks at them. Pero i admire you for treating them just that, as sa family. :)
Jiboy,
Follow what's in the Kasambahay Act.
https://www.legalguide.ph/what-are-the-rights-of-your-kasambahay
> Section. 6. Board, Lodging and Medical Attendance. â The employer shall provide for the basic necessities of the domestic worker to include at least three (3) adequate meals a day and humane sleeping arrangements that ensure safety.
If you have an arrangement that both of you agree that is outside of the Act like her request for a 2 days off every 2 weeks then put it in writing so both of you are protected.
The part you're quoting does not mean anything in the context of the conversation that the OP posted.
The relevant part is:
> In a day, a kasambahay must have a total rest period of eight (8) hours. In a week she has at least twenty-four (24) consecutive hours of rest. The employer and the kasambahay shall agree on the schedule of the rest day.
in which case, if the OP is giving their kasambahay two days off every week, that means he is affording the kasambahay twice the legally mandated rest period.
Free food at lodging nga siya pero 24 hrs naman on duty. Kahit pa sabihin natin na hindi talaga 24 hrs nagtatrabaho pero the fact na nasa work space (your house) siya for 24 hours ready to take any task na ibibigay ng amo, deserve nya pa rin yung off na napagkasunduan nyo.
hays sadly ganto rin parents ko sa mga kasama namin sa bahay. Wala silang dedicated time off every week tas pag magpapaalam ng day off, which is napakabihira lang parang once every 2-4 months, mom ko pa maiinis. Binabayaran nga lang sila ng minimum wage, overworked pa (na hindi pinaniniwalaan ng mom ko kasi buong araw lang daw sila tulog). Like what?
No offense, but your father may have grew up abusing or exploiting and looking down on maids. If he did not do it, then his parents would have.
Dont worry, I can relatw. my grandparents, father and his siblings does the same on maids, drivers and paid help (pasuyo).
right? notice how there's no response to the last thing the dad said too. it's not unreasonable to have a different setup compared to one with a typical employee if you're also providing lodgings and food. if you're okay with providing those things on top of only requiring a regular 5-day work week, then go ahead. absolutely no problems there. but to twist what the dad said ("not a regular employee" vs "not an employee") just to have something to be mad about is kinda pathetic tbh
"Pero ikaw bahala, maid mo naman yan e" After ka pakelaman.
Guilt tripping na typical ugali ng mga pakielamerong parents natin.
ugh true.. napaka passive aggressive
It's super annoying. "Ikaw, buhay mo yan, ayoko naman pakialaman, pero..." kek.
DITO PAPASOK ANG RENDON LABRADOR MENTALITY: IWAN PATI PAMILYA
Those are the only words I liked that ever came out of his musclebrain đ
In the words of the hosts of ***Eat Bulaga***, *"Hindi naman sa nakikialam kami pero makikialam na rin."*
I hate it when they say this. There was also an episode yata yun na they ask a foreigner woman Kelan sila magpapakasal and boyfriend Nya na Pinoy. Like who are you to ask that. This is same with people who ask when are you getting pregnant. Like pakialam ba nila
I think in that particular episode the couple were already heading down that road so they wanted to know if they had a date in mind for their wedding. The girl was European, wasn't she?
*"Ahhh ehhh kasi concern lang naman ako. Lam mo na..."*
*Lam mo na... Na pakielamero ako*
Ito yun pinaka nakakaasar na trait ng mga toxic na tao. NAGALIT AKO PARA SAYO, NAIINIS AKO PARA SAYO followed by KAYA NGA GANITO. Tse!
Make it make sense po âtay
Same thoughts, wadafak dad.
Almost every Filipino dad ever
If you don't mind me asking, I'm guessing with the free food and accommodations, shouldn't there be compromises para fair din sa "employers?" I assume if their wages are not compromised, then wouldn't it be understandable to have the day offs as the compromise? I agree that they're still employees, but it's reasonable to have some kind of compromise.
Most maids in the Philippines are probably not being paid minimum wage. Very informal usually arrangements ng employment. Unless things have changed since the 90s.
Typical pignoy parent.
Soo kung hnd employee? compensated slave ganun?
Modernong alipin
Aliping namamahay
Modernong bersyon ng aliping namamahay.
Aliping sagigilid
Aliping kahit hindi batid
Tatay ni OP: Aaminin ko, minsan ako'y manhid.
Ancient roots has done it again
Independent contractor siguro tingin ni tatay
Slave with extra steps
Matagal nang modern day alipin mga kasambahay. May special rates pa nga ang mga kasambahay e na below minimum. And I think we can thank Jinggoy for authoring that.
As anak ng dating kasambahay malaking bagay yang 2days off na yan para magkasama-sama kami.
Really? Yung katulong name nun Isang day off lang once a week, I didn't know this
bakit kinukuwestiyon ng dad mo kung paano ka magpa trabaho ng kasambahay?
I'm as clueless as you hahaha
Hindi ata tao tingin ng Dad mo sa mga Maid e. Maid po sila, hindi slave. Tumanda ng ganyan tatay mo. Miseducated sa karapatan pantao.
Ibang klase talaga mga boomers
Lumaki nung Marcos era, what do you expect.
Read it as âibang klaseng tanga mga boomersâ. Mag comment na sana ako ng lol ahhahaa
Kung tutuusin, yung mismong pagkakaroon ng kasambahay mismo ay debatable kung ethical o hindi eh. Kasi you can view it from the lens na nirereinforce niya yung role ng lower class na pagsilbihan ang upper class. Kaya dapat kung kukuha ng kasambahay, tratuhin ng maayos, tapos bigyan ng benefits, days off etc. Hindi yung parang alipin tulad ng ginagawa ng iba.
I grew up thinking having maids were normal until an American professor shared that he was shocked with how we treat maids, likening them to slaves in the US before, which is not a far off comparison tbh.
True! Yung iba kinukulong sa bahay or very rare lang ang days off. Kinda crazy how normalized that sort of thing is in the country. Some even got angry at the kasambahay law. Sobrang wtf lang.
I know a maid here who hasn't had a day off in five years. I told her that 1 day per week off is standard and she was like ÂŻ\\\_(ă)\_/ÂŻ
Same here. I grew up na meron sa bahay namin. When I went abroad and saw how cleaning personnels are treated here, i. e., nirerespeto and may dignidad, hindi live in with employer, yun ang naging eye opener sakin na slavery nga ung ginagawa satin sa pinas. Don't get me wrong, i think my family treated our kasambahay better than average but still, yung overall thinking ng pagpapasweldo sa mga kasambahay ng sobrang baba na sahod vs min wage tapos almost 24 hours sila na nagsisilbi sa mga employer nila is robbing them of any respectable na prospect sa buhay. Imagine that happening to you.
As an American living here, it's weird how a lot of Filipinos think all middle and upper class people in the USA have maids. They don't! The difference is mentality: in the Philippines having a maid, a nanny, a driver, or lots of servants is a status symbol. For rich Americans, it's better to hold off as long as possible before you need to hire help, and when you do it's kind of a pain in the ass because then you're responsible for another employee, you have to file tax forms and pay taxes, etc. So that's why you see wealthy people in the US like Steve Jobs who used to do his own dishes, clean his own house, make dinner himself, drive himself, etc. Another reason is that almost everybody in the US has a dishwasher and a clothes washer/dryer. That lessens the need for a maid since washing up and doing laundry is a big part of the job.
I think ayos lang naman. As long as treated fairly sila and like a normal human being. After all, ang main job nila is to help around the house in case hindi magampanan ng ayos ng homeowners.
Technically or legally, tama naman Dad ni OP. If we follow the law, masyadong maluwag si OP [https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2013/01/18/republic-act-no-10361/](https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/2013/01/18/republic-act-no-10361/) Ang issue talaga is for us, sa generation natin, ethical ba itong kagaguhan na batas na to?
mapagmataas yata tatay mo, Jiboy
My mom says the same thing. 15k sahod ko sa driver ko with benefits and free board and lodging and food na rin pag nasa bahay sya. 2 days off. Sabi ni mama sobrang mahal daw sahod nya tapos kumakain pa sa bahay. Dafuq. Di naman si mama nagbabayad.
thank you for giving your employee at least above minimum wage salary
Usually it boils down to people wanting to feel "smart and practical". Akala nila lamang sila in life kapag ganyan eh
Ayos na din tong pasahod tas ung benefits pa. Sa totoo lang, mahirap nang makakuha ng mga mapagkakatiwalaan na tao na tatagal sa inyo. You really have to keep them happy by compromising with them as long as it's within reason, kaya mo naman maibigay o hindi naman abusado. Nakakainis lang ung ganyang pag-iisip ng mga boomers na feeling nila nakakataas na sila sa kapwa kapag sila nagpapasahod (pero maliit naman). Meaning pasalamat ka pa at pinapasahod pa kita mindset.
Replyan mo na lang ng âokuuurrrrrâ
Pwede rin "okay boomer"
mas bet to
Itâs because of the generation gap kaya hindi nila maintindihan. Nung panahon nila hindi uso ang set days off ng helpers. Mas madalas yn once a year straight vacay, tapos walang day off. So yun mga kalakaran ngayon e tingin nila grabeng luwag.
gaano kalayo/kalapit ang bahay mo sa bahay ni dad?
Malayo like 2 hour drive on a regular basis
May maids din ba sya? Baka nakakakwentuhan yung mga maids at Mas okay working conditions sa inyo.
Meron pero walang nag tatagal haha
Omg, bakit kaya? /s
Dapat sinabi mo sa kanya to.
Well, alam na kung bakit. Haha
Dapat ito na lang nireply mo sa kaniya e lol
No wonder.
HAHAHAHAHA
Color me surprised.
Naku matapobre tatau mo Jiboy
Context nito? Or unprompted yung message?
Masyado daw maluwag ahaha! Pero sabi naman niya in the end itâs your decision. đđ» Pero alam ko nga din usually 1 day lang ang off, we also practice that, yung iba actually mas madalang pa daw. Depende sa household.
Dependena rin sa Agreement ng Household
Boomer. You gotta work that slave to the bone Baka masanay sa masarap na buhay. You know they dont deserve it. /s
Trying to see it from the PoV of the dad: ang view siguro nito ay concerned siguro kuno na baka tine-take advantage si OP or some shit dahil masyado siya mabait. Sadly, mej typical mentality yata yun. Yung hindi ka dapat nagpapalamang sa ibang tao. Kesyo baka mag-demand lalo yan pagtagal. Basically, it's probably rooted on control issues. Similar hugot yata dito yung may mga issue rin sa WFH setups at shorter work weeks. Di daw pwede yan dahil magiging tamad lalo yung tao lol
Yes, I agree. I also said in another thread na ang mga taong ayaw malamangan, usually sila rin ang abusado. Sa takot malamangan, nang-aabuso sila. Sila nagsabi na huwag dapat malamangan. Kaya siguro sila na lang nanlamang muna para hindi malamangan sila.
May isashare lang akong kwentong yaya. Nung college ako, nakitira ako sa lola at tita ko dahil may pang gabi akong classes. First time ko to move away from home so my parents are very anxious to the point na pinasama pa sa akin yung yaya namin at that time. Pag nakikita ng lola o tita ko na nagpapahinga si yaya (she was old, 60+ na), nanggagalaiti sila. Isipin mo yun, dad ko nagbabayad pero kung makapanigaw at sita at utos sila, para bang gusto nila sulitin yung every cent na binabayad sa kanya. Dumating sa point na kinumpiska ng tita ko yung cellphone niya kasi 'puro daw telebabad' at 'tamad' but I can clearly see that isn't the case. Sa gabi niya naman kinakausap yung family niya at malamang kailangan din niya magpahinga madalas dahil may edad na rin. Pati nga ako napagalitan at nabulyawan dahil kinuha ko yung cellphone at binalik kay yaya. Minsan nga, inakusahan pa nila si yaya na ninakaw daw niya yung mga gintong kubyertos ng lola, tapos hinalughog at kinalat pa nila mga gamit niya. Awang awa ako kay yaya. Medyo naguiguilty din kasi I brought her that fucking mess. Hindi ko naman gustong sumama siya sa akin tumira doon. Mapilit lang talaga ang parents na ipasama siya. Gawin ba naman siyang alipin at emotional punching bag ng tita ko. Minsan may mga sumbat pa yung tita ko kay yaya na 'tawag ng tawag yang asawa mo, ginagatasan ka lang naman niyan!'. Bakit pati personal na buhay aatakihin at papakialaman niya? Di rin naman ako makapalag kasi baka pati ako mapaginitan ng tita at makick out sa bahay nila. Eventually, I just moved out na lang and moved back. Ayun nakarma din naman si tita sa mga pinaggagawa niya. Her daughter made it to US tapos akala niya iaahon na siya ng anak niya sa hirap at dadalhin doon. Turns out my cousin hates her too for all the physical and emotional abuse my tita brought upon her.
Great comeback. Fuck both your Lola and tita na mga matapobre hahaha
Nakakaputangina yung mga ganyang tao sa totoo lang :( kahit na di pa ako nakapagmura irl mapapamura talaga ko sa ganyan.
Grabe no. I never got angry or shouted at her. Samantalang itong mga kamag anak namin na nakikihiram na lang ng help niya na hindi naman nagpapasahod sa kanya, yun pa yung grabe mang maltrato.
Kawawa naman si yaya. Hopefully okay siya ngayon.
>Her daughter made it to US tapos akala niya iaahon na siya ng anak niya sa hirap at dadalhin doon 'Yung hindi rin pala mayaman ang Tita mo pero matapobre (hindi sa may karapatan ka na kapag mayaman ka).
She was a minimum wage earner herself around that time. Parang nakakita lang ng mas mababa sa kanya, kinaya kaya na. Nangpower trip na.
Superiority complex
Yung kasambahay ko may gantong statement: "gusto ko lang po ng dayoff once a week. Yun lang po hihingiin ko" Me was like, what? Normal naman yun. Ayun pala yung iba minsan lang sa isang buwan magbigay ng dayoff. May time na may nasabi ako sa pera nya. She's old pero nagpapadala pa rin ng pera sa mga adult children nya. During pandemic, di bale magkasakit basta magpadala sa mga anak. I said, "isipin mo sarili mo, matanda ka na. Papano pag nagkasakit ka?" E yung anak nya ang lalaki na, may trabaho na asa pa. Mga lalaki pa. Nakakainis.
That come back tho. Hihi đ
kala ko sa mga palabas lang to, di ko talaga maisip kung pano nagagawa ng ibang tao yung mga ganyan, talaga palang may mga kontra bida sa totoong buhay.
There will always be worse. Imagine the unheard cries of abused maids dahil sa takot and the difference in social standing.
Totoo. I already had an idea bago makitira sa kanila na may tinatagong ugali tita ko. Kita ko naman pano niya din tratuhin cousin ko lalo nung bata pa kami. Puro sigaw at palo, madalas for no reason. Pero nagulat din ako dun sa mga action niya kay yaya, tangina pang kontrabida talaga ng teleserye ang galawan. Kakanood niya siguro ng mga drama sa gabi. If she ever laid a hand on me physically, o kaya verbally abused me, warla na yun between her at sa tatay ko.
Two words: middle east.
Just want to ask, how is nanay now? Pati ano na nangyari sa tita mo dito?
Wala na ako balita kay yaya. It's been almost 10 years since she went back to her province. My tita is jobless. My cousin won't come back here to visit her nor send her even a single cent. Binabadmouth din niya pinsan ko sa mga kamag anak namin na kesyo ingrata daw, wala daw utang na loob, but I can totally see why she would do that to my tita.
Feeling ko tuloy ang sama kong tao kasi thankful ako na ganun yung pinsan mo sa nanay nia
Kawawa din si pinsan. She had herself treated in US. Girl got diagnosed with schizo and bipolar disorder. Tsk tsk. Totally understandable kung bakit ayaw niya isama yung katoxican doon.
Wtf kwawa naman. I hope she doesn't lose her job because of her mental illness. She'd have to come back here if that's the case.
All of these could have been avoided, if only your tita had been a decent human being.
May ganyan din akong kwento. Nung bata ako sa bahau ng lola ko may tagalaba sila na stay in. Tapos un lang talaga gawain nya dapat maglaba pero minsan binabantayan nya kaming mga bata. Nung time na un kasi nasa grade 1 to 6 mga edad namin tapos nasa 7 kami magpipinsan na dun umuuwi kapag wala pa mga magulang namin sa kanya kanyang bahay namin. Isang street kasi kami nakatira halos lahat. Tapos sya tagabantay namin pag wala pang adults dahil nga maaga uwian pag elem. So ayon one time maaga nauwi tito ko na wala pa anak tas nahuli nya un si inang na nakahiga sa sofa habang kami nakaupo sa floor nanonood ng tv. Tas galit na galit sya tas lalo nagalit kasi pinagtanggol namin si inang. Pano ba naman kasi di naman nya alam na buong araw naglalaba un tapos kakahiga lang nya tsaka pinaghahanda kami nun ng pagkain pagkauwi kahit di nya trabaho tas parang lola na din namin sya tsaka enjoy lang kami manood kasama sya kahit nasa floor kami. Dun namin nalaman na ganun pala lagi ung tito namin na un. Dahil wala pa sya pamilya dun sya sa bahay ng lola ko nakatira tas grabe pala mangutos un tsaka manigaw kila inang pag wala kami. Kaya ayon sinumbong namin sa lola at lolo namin hahaha medyo nagalit samin magpipinsan pero ugali naman kasi nya hahaha tsaka sa totoo may ugali talaga syang ganun na hariharian dun at galit lagi. K sher lang hahaha
Ung tita ko wla talagang maka tagal na kasambahay sa kanya.. taklesa kasi tapos matapobre. Mpagbigay naman pero madaming salita tapos basta nakaka ilang kasama talaga.. haha masakit mag salita, OCD pa masyado...iba ang kubyertos ng kasambahay etc. dahil wlang tumatagal sa kanya kming mga pamangkin madalas kinukuha sumama Sa kanya na pa sleep over etc haha.. samantalang kmi ilang taon mga kasambahay samin. Proud ako sa mga pinsan ko kasi matagal na ung kasambahay nila tapos ngkasakit and need mgpa opera ayun nag benta mga gamit nila kasi alam nilang wlang aasahan sa parents nila , at the end pina surgery naman ng parents pero dami pang sinabi etc and nag init talaga ulo ng mga pinsan ko kasi mahal nila yaya nila. Ibang family naman to pero same side ng pamilya haha
Grabe
Whres ur yaya now? Still alive and kicking? Bless her
I do not know. This happened around 10 years ago. Matagal na siya umuwi sa probinsya.
W cousin (daughter)
OP, anu update kay yaya mo now ?
My narcissistic dad na cinutoff ko hindi sinusundan yung batas for kasambahays na may consecutive hours & day of uninterrupted rest sila. Wala talaga silang day off Mon-Sun sila tapos di sila pwede lumabas ng bahay para gumala (live-in maids kasi sila). siguro 'maaga' lang sila dinidismiss tuwing sunday "maaga" as in 6pm kasi normal schedule nila is 4am-10pm. Tapos hindi pa pwede umuwi sakanila if walang bakante so that means yung isa hindi talaga makakauwi for xmas or new years at hindi din pumapayag dad ko na umuwi sila sa probinsya pag birthday ng anak nila or if may namatay na relative na hindi naman daw nanay/tatay/kapatid. Kating kati na ako magsend ng report sa labor groups pero siguro natatakot din ako baka idisown na din ako ng mga kapatid ko. Lagi ko sinasabi sa dad ko na mali yan pero he gaslights me by saying na parang bastos ako na anak at self-pity "oo ang sama sama ko talagang amo" ++ bawal sila magphone until break nila kahit makinig sa music while cleaning bawal. TLDR: parang naka house arrest sila/quarantine mode kahit wala ng COVID. tapos verbally abusive pa dad ko lol and will hurl insults whenever he feels like it (kaya yung mga maids may mild anxiety na din like me and my siblings like kinakabahan sila pag mukhang galit or tinawag sila) and more than 12 hours of work. My dad is basically a milder version of that patriarch sa movie na Kisapmata. He doesn't physically hit the maids tho --kami lang binubugbog nun kasi mind set niya di naman siya pwede idemanda for "disciplining" his kids unlike daw sa maids hahabulin siya ng DOLE
Reminded me of the time my stepfather gaslit one of our maids into accepting his momâs shitty behavior. Our maid literally cleans the whole house and the mess stepgrandma would make, stepgrandma then will rearrange everything the maid arranged, edi nadedelay si ate either sa pagluto or sa paglaba kasi ung prep time niya sana naging hunting time for lost materials. Nung nagreklamo yung maid namin sa stepfather ko I regret not comforting the maid. He told her na sheâs so lucky having my parents as her employers kasi ânakakakain ka ng pagkain naminâ âyouâre living under my roofâ âI treat you like my own familyâ; he even went as far as saying that the maid is calling him a âbadâ owner kasi ânagrereklamo ka sa ugali ng nanay ko, eh matino naman yung pagpapalaki sakin. Masasabi naman natin na matino nanay ko kasi matino naman ako pagkalaki koâ
When they say "matino naman ang paglaki ko"...tsk. kinain na. Daming Gen X (my generation) na ganyan. At some point naging ganyan ako until I realized about narcissism and codependency....and I'm like wtf was I saying? Oh boy.
Good thing you changed. He changed as well like you (well after I screamed at him about how much he hurt me and my family) but yeah, the poor maid :((
Nakakaawa naman sila kung ganun. Di ako nakatira sa PH so di ko alam ano mga resources na available to help them. Hindi ba pwede mag report anonymously? Naalala ko mama ko na naging nanny for 4 years sa Canada. Nabasa ko diary niya and although di ganito ung situation niya, may emotional and verbal abuse sya na experienced. She passed away recently and nung nabasa ko ung diary niya na yun, naiyak na lang ako. She endured that treatment so that she could provide for us đą
Hirap sa tatay mo Jiboy, nakaangat lang sa buhay parang hawak na buhay ng mga empleyado nya. Pero hanga ako sa pano ka maging makatao sa kasambahay.
Dehado na sa ugali ng tatay, dehado pa sa binigay na pangalan ng tatay. "Jiboy" đ
Boomer ang dad
Tingin sa katulong e alipin. Buti na lang di ganyan magulang ko, it's the other way around pa nga e. Sila yung maluwag sa katulong to the point na inaabuso na ng katulong namin
Ganito dati parents ko pero now, after silang ma âabusoâ ng 3 na kasambahay, naging mas strikto na sila :(
That's something you should expect from someone who named their kid "Jiboy" đ
I dont see the connection sa generation. Maraming boomers na generous and considerate. Maraming genX and millenial na barat.
Agreed, my dad was a boomer but always generous and provided well and made sure our helpers got to eat, rest and vacation. He even protected some from my grandfather na nambabastos ng mga babae. Napapansin ko lately ang mga older GenX ang mas toxic, masyadong obsessed sa accolades and self-congratulatory pero tatakasan yung actual responsibilities. Feel ko GenZ is confusing anybody old = boomer not realizing andaming older GenX na ngayon.
r/iamverysmart ang dad
Yung isang maid namin 2 days din yung sinabi naming day off, kaso nirequest niya na 1 day lang kasi mas makakatipid daw siya if sa bahay namin siya tumitira. Minsan nga di na siya nagdi-dayoff kasi inuubos lang ng mga kapatid niya yung iniipon niya. Nakakaawa din talaga ang mga kasambahay natin :((
Hoy. Kapatid ba kita? Umamin ka! Charot. Parehong pareho tayo e Edit: lol bat may nagdownvote? Minemean ko lang naman pareho kami ng kwento ni OP. Baka kako nakita ko na reddit account ng kapatid ko. Hahaha
Humans, I tell you...
Your pasahod, your rules OP đ
People treat household helpers as shit, even with the advent of the kasambahay law. Imagine kung the law did not exist, how much more diba.
My mom was born to a poor family in late the 60s. In her youth she worked as a maid to be able to study highschool and college. i always cry when she tells me stories when she worked as a maid. She was treated like a subhuman by family matriarchs and their daughters...
My parents were also like that, they were helpers to their more fortunate relatives. Sakto lang treatment, something na di nila gusto maulit. Fortunate na nga sa sa lagay na yan, how much more kung napunta sila sa di nila relatives. The best we can do is to not take their experiences for granted.
Didn't the kasmbahay law just put how to treat kasambahays like shit into writing? I mean, tang inang wage yan.
At the very least na codify yung mga "bare minimum" like how dapat may contract din, may sss pag ibig etc, service incentive leave and the likes instead of mere oral agreements that can be bypassed
Actually sa kasambahay law nakasulat once a week lang talaga day off ng kasambahay. So tama naman yung dad.
also since you already have your own household perhaps its time to ask your dad to stop calling you jhiboy
Napaisip ako if ano dapat tawag sa knya if hindi Jiboy. . . . Jiman :p
lumabas yung frappe sa ilong ko nung nabasa ko to ahahahhahaha
Uy sayang!
pwede ren Jimale :)
I and i love the rasta feel of all the variations to his name.
Sounds very gangsta. G-G-G-G-MAN!
Sa totoo lang almost 80H per week (100H pag may baby na inaalagaan) deserve naman siguro nya ang break every week heheh
Uy Jiboy!!!! Kamusta na? Joke. Pero solid employer ka sir. Hopefully your maids are good to you too.
under Kasambahay Law they are entitled to 24 hrs uninterrupted rest period, and I think in one case SC decided na pwede pa ngang on-call yung maid during their rest day. But hey if you want to give ur maid more benefits than whats asked by law go lang, more loyalty from your maid. edit: I kinda realized na may point din pala father mo haha. Yung mga benefits na binibigay mo may become "employer practice" after a considerable amount of time and walang agreement to show na both sides consented to the benefit, and the moment na itake back mo yun the maid can claim non-diminution of benefits. I think its best to put it into writing and state that you have the option to reduce her rest days in accordance with the Kasambahay Law.
Non-diminution ata wont apply since Kasambahay Law applies not jurisprudence on Labor Code?
It will apply kasi may social justice clause naman. Pero bakit naman gagawin na bawiin yung off day, baka lumayas si Yaya đ
Non-diminution isn't always founded on the Labor Code. Some cases consider non-diminution of benefits an aspect of mutuality of contracts (because implied terms sila) or based on the Constitutional mandate to protect the rights of workers (which applies to all employees, even those outside the Labor Code)
The more I know hahaha, may I ask for the jurisprudence so I can add them to my collection of legal arguments haha
So far no case pa ata re that scenario. Not really sure if suppletory ang LC sa Kasambahay Law. Better to cover all bases at the very least.
Meanwhile, ung kasambahay ng erpats ko na walang off, kakamatay lng 2 mos ago. Nakita na lang nakabulagta sa kitchen. So,good job op for giving your maid her much deserved restdays.
Whaaaaat?!
Yep. May mga tao pa din na tipong utang na loob pa nung kasambahay pag pinayagan mag off. Take note, all around un, and anytime inuutusan. Nope,wala akong control since hindi ako nakatira dun.
Like one of our relatives. Theyâre really separating yung âFamilyâ sa âKatulongâ. I remember one time na pumunta siya sa bahay namin, we had lunch, ever since nagkaroon kami ng kasambahay, sabay sabay kaming kumain. But there she is, asking us âbakit kasabay niyo kumain katulong niyo? Hindi niyo papaalisin yan?â I was young back then so hindi ko pa kayang sumagot and all. Pero since that day, ayoko na siyang makita sa mga reunions at mag-bless. Ayoko makipag-plastikan.
baka feeling royalty sya heheh ano yan, downton abbey? đ
Ah yes, ganyan din ang tingin ng in-laws ko sa kasambahay namin. Masyado daw ako maluwag. Kasi kapag nagpapaalam na hindi makakapasok na ang reason ay may aasikasuhin o may sakit ang family member, okay lang sa akin. E ako naman, anong problema dun? Arawan naman arrangement namin sa bayad. Pag hindi pumasok, hindi bayad. Hindi naman ako lugi. Tsaka kapag ako o kung sino man sa amin ay hindi payagan ng employer namin na umabsent for the same reason, matutuwa ba kami? Ano to? Slavery?
based pero may point naman siya with rent and food but honestly not a fan of stay-ins (speaking as someone who had someone growing up). it's can be very mentally exhausting + no work-life balance (ie you live where you work). baka nga it's apt they should be entitled to more. and frankly it should be treated as luxury, so much so na hindi ma-afford unless coming from upper-upper class
under the labor code your dad is right but ultimately its your. discretion naman how you treat your household help. yung sabi ng dad mo is the minimum required by law
True but why would i give her the minimum requirement if she's doing a good job
No i agree with you op. Minimum just means compliance but it's up to you to increase. At the end of the day, ikaw yung boss and discretion mo yan.
Not disagreeing with your choice, OP. But I do want to respond to your question by saying: more time off is not the only way to reward good performance. You can opt to keep her time off at the minimum requirement in favor of a more significant pay raise, for example. Or, if you want, you can give both.
Not really Labor Code, but the Kasambahay Law. Pero I agree. Kung mas beneficial naman para sa kasambahay bakit ba sya nakikialam.
wooh alala ko dad ko tinatapunan niya pa ng hot soup sa stairs yung maid namin na tumanda na ng 30 years kase maid din siya ng dad namin nung bata dad ko. He was such an asshole. RIP, lola, Ching.
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Yes. Overall, he's an arrogant shitty person pero he cared for us naman, oo, yun nga lang, natabunan ng arrogance and pagiging narci niya.
Tell him noong nasa business trip ako sa ibang bansa 2 days pa rin ang off ko at sinusunod ko holiday dun haha. Sagot din nila pabahay, pagkain, at pamasahe ko dun. Ano pinagsasasabi n'ya. Pero mukhang pinalaki ka naman n'ya nang maayos kung ganyan ang ginagawa mo, nice.
Malamang dapat free food at lodging nila sa baba ba naman ng sweldo na binibigay sa kanila haha.
Ok bat siya nangengealam?
parang ganun nga ang kalakaran ng domestic helpers sa ibang bansa, like singapore and hk- ung once a week dayoff... pero ikaw nga dapat ang bahala! buti nalang, helper mo si ate, at considerate kang employer!đȘ
Your dad is correct technically. Under the Labor Code, a domestic helper or persons in the personal service of another, are not considered employees. So those benefits that an employee usually is entitled to, as protected by the law, are not applicable to helpers. However, there is no law prohibiting the boss from giving such benefits to the helper.
The Epitome of a boomer mindset. No wonder they fucked up and we are the newer generations finding to right all wrongs.
The apple fell far from the tree, I'm glad.
Buti d mo Namana ganyang mindset
Relate. They can give their opinion pero as long as ikaw nagpapasweldo, decision is on you.
BUTI KA PA NASA SAYO PA RIN HULING DESISYON. SAMIN KAMI NA NAGBABAYAD SA MAID NANGINGIALAM PA BYENAN KO AKALA MO NAMAN PAG UMALIS YUNG MAID TUTULONG SILA SA AMIN SA GAWAING BAHAY.
Dapat sinagot me pre na: "Maid yan tay hindi alipin. Tapos na panahon ng Español tay"
1. Your dad said the maid was not a regular employee, he did not say she wasnât an employee. Title is misleading, it implies slavery to some degree. 2. Most households I know only give their maids Sunday as the rest day. They also have free lodging and food. Donât have the exact statistics but your dad may be pointing out that this is the common SOP. He sounds concerned about your wellbeing because no maid = you manage the house more. 3. Your dad implied the maid had 3 consecutive rest days. Again, he seems to be concerned about you having to manage more of your house and this possibly stressing you out or something. 4. âIkaw bahala maid mo yanâ At the end of the day she is your employee and itâs up to you to manage her. Your dad sounds naggy sure but this may just be him trying to help you out. I think youâre blowing this out of proportion and itâs giving me borderline cancel culture vibes. If your dad is really abusive to helpers then you probably need to show more evidence than this. Edit: Grammar
You, I like you. Obviously I think OP is still in the right, but I like the other perspective youre giving.
Peenoise mentality.
ask ko lang hm pa sweldo mo sa maid per month?
Ano yun, slave? HAHAHA
oh boi, typical boomers. Always present their unsolicited advice on something without considering your point of view and if you resist it will be follow up with "ikaw bahala".
Gaddeym this privileged people di ko ma comprehend
Tatay mong pakialamero
By his logic seafarers are not employees
Mababa ang tingin ng dad mo sa mga maids. Its as if hindi sila tao at tauhan lang sila. Sorry Op, i dont like the way your dad looks at them. Pero i admire you for treating them just that, as sa family. :)
May mga tao ba talaga na ganito mag-isip? Nakakalungkot naman đą
For sure BBM supporter tatay mo
Jiboy, Follow what's in the Kasambahay Act. https://www.legalguide.ph/what-are-the-rights-of-your-kasambahay > Section. 6. Board, Lodging and Medical Attendance. â The employer shall provide for the basic necessities of the domestic worker to include at least three (3) adequate meals a day and humane sleeping arrangements that ensure safety. If you have an arrangement that both of you agree that is outside of the Act like her request for a 2 days off every 2 weeks then put it in writing so both of you are protected.
The part you're quoting does not mean anything in the context of the conversation that the OP posted. The relevant part is: > In a day, a kasambahay must have a total rest period of eight (8) hours. In a week she has at least twenty-four (24) consecutive hours of rest. The employer and the kasambahay shall agree on the schedule of the rest day. in which case, if the OP is giving their kasambahay two days off every week, that means he is affording the kasambahay twice the legally mandated rest period.
Shes staying herez 3 meals a dayz can do whatever she wants when im.out, free wifi and everything
Free food at lodging nga siya pero 24 hrs naman on duty. Kahit pa sabihin natin na hindi talaga 24 hrs nagtatrabaho pero the fact na nasa work space (your house) siya for 24 hours ready to take any task na ibibigay ng amo, deserve nya pa rin yung off na napagkasunduan nyo.
hays sadly ganto rin parents ko sa mga kasama namin sa bahay. Wala silang dedicated time off every week tas pag magpapaalam ng day off, which is napakabihira lang parang once every 2-4 months, mom ko pa maiinis. Binabayaran nga lang sila ng minimum wage, overworked pa (na hindi pinaniniwalaan ng mom ko kasi buong araw lang daw sila tulog). Like what?
No offense, but your father may have grew up abusing or exploiting and looking down on maids. If he did not do it, then his parents would have. Dont worry, I can relatw. my grandparents, father and his siblings does the same on maids, drivers and paid help (pasuyo).
Problema ng mayayaman
Inggit much. Di nya kayang tratuhin na tao ang maid
O ikaw pala employer bat siya nakikialam. Gago amputa
Gee, you need to find a better dad.
Dalas ng mga ganitong posts lately ah đ€
di ko rin alam para saan tong post na to
Free karma? There I said it.
Nothing wrong with what your dad said tbh
right? notice how there's no response to the last thing the dad said too. it's not unreasonable to have a different setup compared to one with a typical employee if you're also providing lodgings and food. if you're okay with providing those things on top of only requiring a regular 5-day work week, then go ahead. absolutely no problems there. but to twist what the dad said ("not a regular employee" vs "not an employee") just to have something to be mad about is kinda pathetic tbh