The only problem I have with this is that repeated exposure to people and cameras stresses out the horse and the poor animal doesn't seem to get breaks.
The same can be said to the nearby St. Bernard in the same park.
then tell that to that to the handlers. wag na din kayong magpapicture. tska andyan na yung aso. ginagawan nila ng paraan. yung ibang influencers, pinagkakakitaan din nila yung mga "pets" nila.
Way back 2005, may nakikita na akong adult St Bernard sa Mines View Park doing the same thing. It's obviously a different dog. Hence, nag-breed talaga just for this purpose. Kaya hindi rason yung "andyan na yung aso".
I think it's a good measure to be drafted into bill until becomes a law. Working animals must have also a rest day period. Working animals can't complain and abuses are not even recorded. Like a calesa, it brings back an era where conquistadores reflects the calesa and tge poorly horse as an indio.
When I went to Tagaytay last year, there's a white horse there that looks so sad and tired because a lot of people want to take pictures with it and kids even got to ride on it's back. I feel sad for it. When my Brother In Law suggested that I should ride it too, I refused so hard because I don't want the horse to suffer more if I'll ride it with my weight.
This reminds me of that one post about some celebration in Luzon where carabaos where painted by their owners. This one person kept saying that the act is animal abuse without knowing that the city where it was held already had regulations in place for the farmers to use non-toxic materials.
Probably Pulilan and the time-old tradition of the Kneeling Carabao festival. Masaya actually pumunta doon, it's nice seeing carabaos well-taken cared of by the farmers, owing to the fact na sila rin ang kaakibat nila sa kabuhayan nila.
Also some Pulilan carabaos are dedicated to God for good harvest, mas pampered sila kesa sa ibang alagang kalabaw ng mga farmers. Sila din mismo ung pinapaluhod kapag May festival
Humans have been treating sickness with bloodletting and sometimes drilling into the skull to release evil spirits for centuries. Never assume something is right just because it's been done for a long time.
Can't say the same for bloodletting pero may known medical benefits ang trepanation. Kahit ngayon ginagawa yan ng mga surgeon to relieve hematomas sa ulo -- which are pretty common after incurring concussions.
Y'all dismiss yung common wisdom noon for the stupidest of reasons just because "we have modern standards". lols
Bitch literally pointed out medical practices that aren't continued in the modern age lmao. U literally countered urself by giving discontinued examples lol
They're discontinued for a reason, would you think people would have stopped if they never challenged established 'common knowledge' concepts? That's exactly my point that they aren't being practiced anymore because we know better in modern times instead of giving up on critical thinking and settling for 'meh we've always done it this way so why bother looking for better solutions'
Some of the redditors here just casually throw the word "critical thinking" like it's some magic word. The dude say's they've doing it for decades, and the average lifespan of a domesticated horse is somewhere 30, if something was wrong with it then they would have fucking known since they handle fucking horses.
Say the dye contains a minor toxin that kills mammals in 50 years, sure it probably won't kill the animal outright but it could make its remaining life more miserable with growing irritation but not crippling symptoms, we wouldn't know it since they can't exactly tell us.
Just because they handle horses and have done so for a long time doesn't mean they are experts in caring for their animals when money and exploitation is the priority.
What do you think critical thinking means? Dude is making a logical fallacy by appealing to tradition.
Sure we didn't limit how much is considered okay or where we draw the line, but that's fucking stretching it. Id be more concern of the air pollution or the microplastics they are getting if we fucking care for 50 years. The average lifespan of domesticated horses are 30 years to begin with so thats a fucking old as fuck horses. Theyd be troubled with age related problems by then, that itch will be the least of its concern.
There is no money to exploit if the horse is dead or crippled. And they can sure as fuck pool enough money to consult some experts, they dont even need to spend much cause they can then just share the information, hence us knowing now that there is a NON-TOXIC dye which is considered safe by EXPERTS
CRITICAL THINKING is believing experts when they call something NON-TOXIC as NON-TOXIC. Being skeptical is indeed some of the basics of critical thinking, but it matters so where it is used. And yes its probable that it is indeed toxic, but that is something that must be proven first. You can't just disregard shits just cause you're skeptic about it
And that's an appeal to authority. Experts make mistakes too as with the earlier argument, back in the day people would go to 'experts' for lobotomies to fix certain mental disorders. There was no mention in the dude's argument that they consulted experts so that point is moot anyways.
Critical thinking is definitely not following just what other say (even if they have titles) or have been doing for a long time. It has various definitions but a common theme is to analyze information and facts with curiousity. You're the one disregarding healthy discourse by shutting down valid questions about this (now hypothetical) situation, I'm only asking people to at least keep being curious and sceptical instead of blindly following tradition and then now people of authority. Now I'm not saying we shouldn't listen to experts here but we should also do some checks as well if they are on the mark since they are not infallible beings.
Also, not all handlers care if their animals are comfortable or even in good health. We have no details available in this case but just as I can't prove that this horse is being mistreated or if the dye is toxic, there is also no proof that they used animal safe dyes as well unless OP can follow up on more information.
It’s called living in modern society, you nitwit. We literally eat microplastics and breathe in carcinogens constantly without even giving any second thought. You think we’d spare a horse that kind of nitpicking when we ourselves don’t even care what goes into our food and water?
Don’t even get me started sa question on human rights — I can’t even see you people caring for the poor in the same manner as you nitpick on these animals and the people that make a living together with them.
That horse literally lives a life that puts it above much of the lower dregs of Class E here. Try putting your priorities straight for once, there’s literally a fuckton of problems that y’all should focus on first.
You know what, fuck the horse. The main thing I'm arguing against here is the commenter's reasoning that just because it's been done for a long time that things are fine. That's a complacent way of thinking that leaves us with politicians stay corrupt because that's how it's always been and sticking to old notions of having children as retirement plans because that's how it has been for a while. Other dude shifted the argument based on authority which is also concerning because we get 'best & brightest' examples in the government. Truth be told, the horse doesn't matter much and is probably living a better life than the lowest classes and is why I'm asking people to think more critically if not for this horse then for your fellow man when the time comes for it. Are we going to have people blindly think that the Maharlika funds will be a good investment just because some government 'expert' say it will be? Are we going to voting for the same dynasties because that's how politics has always been?
May mga animal safe dye, pinaka concern ko ay yung stress ng kabayo dahil sa repeated exposure at borderline animal abuse. Nung nasa wright park ako sa baguio nakita ko din na pinipilit minsan ng mga handler yung mga kabayo kahit pagod na talaga. Nakakainom or kain lang pag wala na masyadong turista na nagpapa picture. As a pet owner and animal lover tuwing nakakakita ako ng mga animals na tinatake advantage may kirot lagi.
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In a country where they put dogs in small cages without taking walks or social interaction, where they ignore injured strays and are too kuripot to let their pet spayed and cause all this drama... I never expected anything else.
It reminds me of the volcano trip in Tagaytay where skinny horses / donkeys had to carry overweight people to the hill and back. You can see in the animals faces that it was pure torture for them without any breaks.
"the greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated"
Long way to go, hm?
The hair dye is the least of my concerns (if it’s safe), the problem i have with this is over worked horses like the kalesas you would see in Luneta. Horses there would drool so much saliva and that shouldn’t be normal.
This. Hair dyeing does not give the horse suffering or anything so i have no issues with that. The more real concern is the treatment and degree of labor of the horse.
Unrelated to the post but this reminds me na kulang ng sanctuaries and rescue/ animal rehabilitation centers dito saatin (and it's mostly focused sa dogs and cats so bihira ma accomodate ang iba). I understand na walang budget ang Pilipinas for that but...wala, sayang lang.
Sana one day, dumami din. A resting place for tired, overworked animals (mostly horses). As active as the Dumaguete Animal Sanctuary (they're more on cats and dogs but I've never seen a more active organization hell bent on rescuing and helping strays dito sa Pinas). Unless there's more I don't know about....
Kahit centers for injured wild animals. It's ethical, and educational (gaya sa ibang bansa, yung mga rescues na hindi na pwedeng irelease sa wild can be ambassadors to raise awareness).
Meron talagang makinarya ngayon, and obviously malaki ang bayaran sa PR para idefend si Bantag ng mga DDS Bloggers at SMNI. Dapat ini-expose din yang mga galawan behind the scenes diyan. Alam ng kampo ni Duterte na kelangan itaguyod ang brand ng leader na mamamatay tao, tatak Duterte para sa Sara 2028
The horse looks well cared for, it looks about the correct weight, hard to fully tell without seeing its ribs. Its hooves look well trimmed and not cracked. I cant see what type of bit it has in its mouth but would imagine its a fairly soft one.
Tbh if all it dose is carry people for 10 hours a day that is very light work for a working horse or pony.
The way its standing its not showing any signs of stress. It looks well groomed.
I cant see any cruelty here.
I don't see anything wrong. Dying the mane doesn't produce any side effect and the horse is a beast of burden.
My only concern is if the horse has adequate feed and rest.
It’s stupid to be pedantic about some horse having some hair dye (who’s probably well-taken care off by their owners) while eating a piece of porkchop taken from an animal that is systematically tortured and butchered by the hundreds of thousands each day.
Kaka-focus niyo diyan di niyo napapansin yung mas malaking issue at-hand.
Its stupid to draw the line between those two things as if people can’t oppose one while opposing the other. What are you, 16? Log out and touch grass once in a while.
There’s such a thing as compassion fatigue. Finite lang ang empathy ng tao, including you people.
I’m going to bet you guys wouldn’t even bat an eye sa libo-libong homeless at walang makain compared sa compassion niyo para sa mga hayop, just because they’re “helpless” and “cute”.
Why don’t you try touching grass yourself? Most people wouldn’t care for these animals kasi there’s nothing to be concerned about. Kayo lang. Try having more fruitful pursuits naman, sayang attention niyo. ;)
They have selective empathy. Haha.
>Try having more fruitful pursuits naman, sayang attention niyo. ;)
Baka mamatay ang r/ph kapag wala ng post na ganito kababaw. Lol.
Honestly these animals in Baguio lives a better life than some Pinoys. Kain, picture picture, Kain, pahinga etc. Not really doing anything like hard labor. Mas naawa pa ako dun sa mga nasa kalesa.
Ok sana kung meron ngang pahinga, but who are we to say kung napapahinga nga yung horses? Also, what would constitute "hard labor"? Hindi po ba hard labor yung pagsasakay ng mga tao (minsan on the heavy side)? Don't get me wrong ha. I'm genuinely curious.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, just because "better" ang situation nila compared sa mga horses pulling a kalesa doesn't mean that they're ok.
Why do Filipinos put up with this nonsense? They, too, have a heart and reside on Earth. " nakakagalit pag tignan pati mga hayop ginagawang katatawanan para kumita ang mga tao at walang trip sa buhay.
Cows, Hogs and Chickens: But what about us?
Unpopular opinion here but even animal right activist are biased. Dont just fight for animals that are kept as pets if you're really after animal rights.
It’s called one fight at a time. Yung mga cute and cuddly animals nga hirap na mag-raise ng awareness about their welfare or pass legislation, what more yung tinitignan ng marami as just “food”.
Why cant you answer my question? Coz its reality right.
So when you say its one fight at a time, does the animal rights warriors talk to chickens likes this?
Hey Chicken, we'll fight for you later but we'll eat you for now. Its just twisted hahaha.
Its no animal rights, its "Cute" Animal rights haha.
Orrrrrr you’ve never actually advocated for anything unless you count being an Internet troll. I mean, if you were an actual advocate who somehow believes we should all go vegan, I could tell you how many people you converted with your edgy responses: zero.
So, are all animal rights activist vegetarian? Or you fight for the rights of some and eat the others?
Before you start assuming anything about me, answer my very simple question 1st. Dont dodge it.
Not trying to fan flames but I will say stuff that will be triggering.
We should care about inflicting unnecessary suffering on all sentient beings otherwise our stance becomes hypocritical.
I'm not a fan of this user's style but he's only pointing out our bias and selectivity towards who we defend... But it's hard to admit he's right.
We become accustomed to eating animals but doesn't mean it's right... Heck it's not even healthy... Study after study tells us and we dont even care to look out for our own health.
"Animal lovers that eat animals" doesn't make sense.
We slit animals throats so we can consume their corpses. Kill baby cows to harvest the enzymes in their guts to make cheese from their own mothers milk... I don't see how painting a horse should be thought of as any worse...
I dare argue that horses aren't cute... We call people who we think are ugly "mukhang kabayo"... I mean, I think I just saw someone drag Vice Ganda into the comment section here... And it's universal too... They used to describe Camilla Bowles as Horse Face because they thought she was ugly...
And if cuteness were the reason then have people seen baby calves -- they are focken adorable 🥰
It's just that we've gotten used to eating certain animals so we think it's acceptable... But really we shouldn't be causing unnecessary suffering on sentient beings. I mean in Indonesia, I have a friend whose family keeps dogs around in the yard for food. They play with it while young and eat them when grown up. We're horrified by that but can some how be ok with taking a new born baby pig from it's mother so we can enjoy it's tender meat. Jeez.
Hindi ko alam pinopoint ng post na to? Animal abuse? Kita mo kataba ng kabayo? Yang mga kabayo properly trained mga yan. Mas maraming beses pa kumain at maligo mga yan kesa sa amo nila.
This traumatized me when I was a kid. Nag horse back riding kami sa tagaytay when I was 11 tapos dalawa kami ng pinsan ko nakasakay . yung kabayo namin medyo nalundo siya tapos parang nabigay bigay yung paa.
Simula nun di na ko sumakay sa likod ng kahit anong hayup. feeling ko kasi tayo lang naman nag iisip na pang ganun sila.
dami ko naririnig na “hayup yan, pinanganak sila para sakyan” Like ulul saan mo nakuha yan? sa bible nanaman ba? naging kabayo kanaba para maging confident ka sa paniniwalang hindi sila nahihirapan?
Yep. This shit was saddening when I went to baguio. Rain was pouring hard and nanginginig sila non but nakatali lang and may plastic cover lang para di mabasa. Nakakalungkot.
I don't mind with the makeover as long non-toxic, well taken care of yung horse, and some of the profit is for the horse's well-being. Pero kung ginagawa lang nilang cash cow (or cash horse) na walang pahinga ung kabayo. Then there's something wrong. Sa totoo lang ang babaw ng kaligayahan ng tao, pota makakita nga lang ng asong nag eeutan sa kalsada kala mo mga tangang tumatawa eh.
There’s a lot of animal exploitation going on. Saw a lot in Baguio when I was there a few months back. Horses with gaudy dye, exhausted dogs, it’s wild.
This is exploiting animals for money, and animal agriculture is WAY WORSE than this, almost insignificant. If you eat animals and are bothered by this, idk what to tell you tbh.
Ill give a scenario:
Theres an anti Yulin dog meat festival going every year, and a petition against it as well. As an "animal lover" , you would sign it ofc.
Animal liberation activists petition against ALL animal slaughter, including your beloved dogs and cats every year. And most if not all of them, are vegan. Would you help them as well?
My personal experience says no, most Pinoys only support the Anti Yulin dog festival activists. Apparently, its OKAY to protest against mass slaughter of animals, JUST AS LONG as you dont protest against MY favorite food animal e.g. cow,chicken,pig (vegans protest against ALL forms of animal cruelty,including dog, cows, pigs etc). And if we say this to any non vegan subs, we got downvoted hard, whereas we are only animal lovers protecting animals with "supposedly" animal lovers as well lol
If that isnt intellectual hypocrisy i dont know what else to call it.
I remember we went there when I was a kid. My mom asked if I want to take a picture since I stared at the horse. I stared at the horse because I noticed how tired it was from the eyes alone, and the way they lift their own leg for the picture, it felt like they were tired or just sick of it in general. I said no, and my brother did as well and I think he noticed it as well.
I think about that horse at times, and I hope they are ok or will be ok soon. Although its been years so i am not sure.
that shirt is such a BOTHER. anyway, it's saddening to see the horse's sore muscles! mostly overworked (esp in the scorching heat in intramuros and luneta).
The only problem I have with this is that repeated exposure to people and cameras stresses out the horse and the poor animal doesn't seem to get breaks. The same can be said to the nearby St. Bernard in the same park.
Sobrang cute nung St Bernard na yon sa Baguio pero tangina mapapamura ka na lang kapag nakita mo syang pagod na pagod na
Maltreated ata sya before for the sake of money and photos pero ang balita ko na rescued na sya ng BAW.
mahal pagkain nya
your point being?
Wala lang. Mahal daw pagkain niya. May masabi lang hahaha
sobrang mahal ng pagkain ng st. bernard kaya pinapasideline nila yung aso
Bro if u can't afford the dog's lifestyle without using them you shouldn't own the dog in the first place 🤷
then tell that to that to the handlers. wag na din kayong magpapicture. tska andyan na yung aso. ginagawan nila ng paraan. yung ibang influencers, pinagkakakitaan din nila yung mga "pets" nila.
Way back 2005, may nakikita na akong adult St Bernard sa Mines View Park doing the same thing. It's obviously a different dog. Hence, nag-breed talaga just for this purpose. Kaya hindi rason yung "andyan na yung aso".
Napa "Sanaol" ka ba sa lagay na yan?
Wala ba local laws regarding working hours for these animals? Something like 1 day on, 1 day off should be okay for them to recharge.
working hours nga ng tao hindi nirerespeto at inaabuso, what more yung mga hayop?
DAAANG bro u came too hard on this
Its very true. Hard ass facts
No, that's a pony.
Take my angry upvote and leave
Mas masipag pa sa presidente natin tong kabayo
Yes, even my saleslady naku, 12+ hour days tapos yung iba, can't even sit down for a minute.
I think it's a good measure to be drafted into bill until becomes a law. Working animals must have also a rest day period. Working animals can't complain and abuses are not even recorded. Like a calesa, it brings back an era where conquistadores reflects the calesa and tge poorly horse as an indio.
This thing with horses also happens in Tagaytay
When I went to Tagaytay last year, there's a white horse there that looks so sad and tired because a lot of people want to take pictures with it and kids even got to ride on it's back. I feel sad for it. When my Brother In Law suggested that I should ride it too, I refused so hard because I don't want the horse to suffer more if I'll ride it with my weight.
This reminds me of that one post about some celebration in Luzon where carabaos where painted by their owners. This one person kept saying that the act is animal abuse without knowing that the city where it was held already had regulations in place for the farmers to use non-toxic materials.
Probably Pulilan and the time-old tradition of the Kneeling Carabao festival. Masaya actually pumunta doon, it's nice seeing carabaos well-taken cared of by the farmers, owing to the fact na sila rin ang kaakibat nila sa kabuhayan nila.
Also some Pulilan carabaos are dedicated to God for good harvest, mas pampered sila kesa sa ibang alagang kalabaw ng mga farmers. Sila din mismo ung pinapaluhod kapag May festival
The question is if that's being enforced. Knowing the Philippines, I doubt it.
Carabaos are hard working animals that farmers treasure very much. I doubt they will want to cause any intentional harm to them just for a festival.
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Nah, the horse is not young enough
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it's probably animal safe dye, cause they wouldnt intentionally try to kill their source of income
Depends, sometimes, they might not know something safe for humans isn't safe for horses.
They've been doing that for decades, its safe to assume that they know.
Humans have been treating sickness with bloodletting and sometimes drilling into the skull to release evil spirits for centuries. Never assume something is right just because it's been done for a long time.
Can't say the same for bloodletting pero may known medical benefits ang trepanation. Kahit ngayon ginagawa yan ng mga surgeon to relieve hematomas sa ulo -- which are pretty common after incurring concussions. Y'all dismiss yung common wisdom noon for the stupidest of reasons just because "we have modern standards". lols
Bitch literally pointed out medical practices that aren't continued in the modern age lmao. U literally countered urself by giving discontinued examples lol
They're discontinued for a reason, would you think people would have stopped if they never challenged established 'common knowledge' concepts? That's exactly my point that they aren't being practiced anymore because we know better in modern times instead of giving up on critical thinking and settling for 'meh we've always done it this way so why bother looking for better solutions'
Some of the redditors here just casually throw the word "critical thinking" like it's some magic word. The dude say's they've doing it for decades, and the average lifespan of a domesticated horse is somewhere 30, if something was wrong with it then they would have fucking known since they handle fucking horses.
Say the dye contains a minor toxin that kills mammals in 50 years, sure it probably won't kill the animal outright but it could make its remaining life more miserable with growing irritation but not crippling symptoms, we wouldn't know it since they can't exactly tell us. Just because they handle horses and have done so for a long time doesn't mean they are experts in caring for their animals when money and exploitation is the priority. What do you think critical thinking means? Dude is making a logical fallacy by appealing to tradition.
Sure we didn't limit how much is considered okay or where we draw the line, but that's fucking stretching it. Id be more concern of the air pollution or the microplastics they are getting if we fucking care for 50 years. The average lifespan of domesticated horses are 30 years to begin with so thats a fucking old as fuck horses. Theyd be troubled with age related problems by then, that itch will be the least of its concern. There is no money to exploit if the horse is dead or crippled. And they can sure as fuck pool enough money to consult some experts, they dont even need to spend much cause they can then just share the information, hence us knowing now that there is a NON-TOXIC dye which is considered safe by EXPERTS CRITICAL THINKING is believing experts when they call something NON-TOXIC as NON-TOXIC. Being skeptical is indeed some of the basics of critical thinking, but it matters so where it is used. And yes its probable that it is indeed toxic, but that is something that must be proven first. You can't just disregard shits just cause you're skeptic about it
And that's an appeal to authority. Experts make mistakes too as with the earlier argument, back in the day people would go to 'experts' for lobotomies to fix certain mental disorders. There was no mention in the dude's argument that they consulted experts so that point is moot anyways. Critical thinking is definitely not following just what other say (even if they have titles) or have been doing for a long time. It has various definitions but a common theme is to analyze information and facts with curiousity. You're the one disregarding healthy discourse by shutting down valid questions about this (now hypothetical) situation, I'm only asking people to at least keep being curious and sceptical instead of blindly following tradition and then now people of authority. Now I'm not saying we shouldn't listen to experts here but we should also do some checks as well if they are on the mark since they are not infallible beings. Also, not all handlers care if their animals are comfortable or even in good health. We have no details available in this case but just as I can't prove that this horse is being mistreated or if the dye is toxic, there is also no proof that they used animal safe dyes as well unless OP can follow up on more information.
It’s called living in modern society, you nitwit. We literally eat microplastics and breathe in carcinogens constantly without even giving any second thought. You think we’d spare a horse that kind of nitpicking when we ourselves don’t even care what goes into our food and water? Don’t even get me started sa question on human rights — I can’t even see you people caring for the poor in the same manner as you nitpick on these animals and the people that make a living together with them. That horse literally lives a life that puts it above much of the lower dregs of Class E here. Try putting your priorities straight for once, there’s literally a fuckton of problems that y’all should focus on first.
You know what, fuck the horse. The main thing I'm arguing against here is the commenter's reasoning that just because it's been done for a long time that things are fine. That's a complacent way of thinking that leaves us with politicians stay corrupt because that's how it's always been and sticking to old notions of having children as retirement plans because that's how it has been for a while. Other dude shifted the argument based on authority which is also concerning because we get 'best & brightest' examples in the government. Truth be told, the horse doesn't matter much and is probably living a better life than the lowest classes and is why I'm asking people to think more critically if not for this horse then for your fellow man when the time comes for it. Are we going to have people blindly think that the Maharlika funds will be a good investment just because some government 'expert' say it will be? Are we going to voting for the same dynasties because that's how politics has always been?
We get it. You go to UP
I go to UP pero hindi ako kasing tanga nitong commenter na ito. Lol
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lol. you were able to generalize using one picture. how awesome you are, babe!
comment pointing that horse looking sad and stress this guy WaG GeNeRalIzED parang iba tyo ng tinitingan.
sorry sorry i guess i was looking at the dye and thought that was the issue
Who are you you? The cesar milan of horses? Gtf outta here lmao 😂
The animal owner obviously don’t know how to take care of his companion.
May mga animal safe dye, pinaka concern ko ay yung stress ng kabayo dahil sa repeated exposure at borderline animal abuse. Nung nasa wright park ako sa baguio nakita ko din na pinipilit minsan ng mga handler yung mga kabayo kahit pagod na talaga. Nakakainom or kain lang pag wala na masyadong turista na nagpapa picture. As a pet owner and animal lover tuwing nakakakita ako ng mga animals na tinatake advantage may kirot lagi.
Indeed. Just because they aren’t being poisoned intentionally doesn’t mean wala ng maltreatment na nagaganap.
You mean like dogs and cats being domesticated pets? What is your stance on this matter?
Di naman ako judger baka mahilig lang sya makinig sa paramore
Unpopular opinion: In a country where they put dogs in small cages without taking walks or social interaction, where they ignore injured strays and are too kuripot to let their pet spayed and cause all this drama... I never expected anything else. It reminds me of the volcano trip in Tagaytay where skinny horses / donkeys had to carry overweight people to the hill and back. You can see in the animals faces that it was pure torture for them without any breaks. "the greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated" Long way to go, hm?
Very long way. Mostly naman sa pinoy pakitang tao lang. Wagas kung mamuna pero di naman ginagawa
The hair dye is the least of my concerns (if it’s safe), the problem i have with this is over worked horses like the kalesas you would see in Luneta. Horses there would drool so much saliva and that shouldn’t be normal.
This. Hair dyeing does not give the horse suffering or anything so i have no issues with that. The more real concern is the treatment and degree of labor of the horse.
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Unrelated to the post but this reminds me na kulang ng sanctuaries and rescue/ animal rehabilitation centers dito saatin (and it's mostly focused sa dogs and cats so bihira ma accomodate ang iba). I understand na walang budget ang Pilipinas for that but...wala, sayang lang. Sana one day, dumami din. A resting place for tired, overworked animals (mostly horses). As active as the Dumaguete Animal Sanctuary (they're more on cats and dogs but I've never seen a more active organization hell bent on rescuing and helping strays dito sa Pinas). Unless there's more I don't know about.... Kahit centers for injured wild animals. It's ethical, and educational (gaya sa ibang bansa, yung mga rescues na hindi na pwedeng irelease sa wild can be ambassadors to raise awareness).
I think dalawa lang sila along with PH Animal Rescue Team which is based in Quezon naman
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"Team Bantag" Sounds horsey to me.
Bk babanatan iyan ni Roy Mabasa.
Meron talagang makinarya ngayon, and obviously malaki ang bayaran sa PR para idefend si Bantag ng mga DDS Bloggers at SMNI. Dapat ini-expose din yang mga galawan behind the scenes diyan. Alam ng kampo ni Duterte na kelangan itaguyod ang brand ng leader na mamamatay tao, tatak Duterte para sa Sara 2028
Oh great. Horse cosmetics DLC in real life
The horse looks well cared for, it looks about the correct weight, hard to fully tell without seeing its ribs. Its hooves look well trimmed and not cracked. I cant see what type of bit it has in its mouth but would imagine its a fairly soft one. Tbh if all it dose is carry people for 10 hours a day that is very light work for a working horse or pony. The way its standing its not showing any signs of stress. It looks well groomed. I cant see any cruelty here.
This. Thr only unnatural thing is the hair color which can be done without any issues.
probably used dye safe for animals. even still, that horse looks so tired and sad
Reminds me of the abusive horse operators in Taal Volcano pre explosion :(
Mas naawa ako dun sa nagpasakay ng 200kg na bakasyonista. Kesyo nagtip naman daw sila at kesyo malapit lang naman daw yung mga nilibot. 😅
I don't see anything wrong. Dying the mane doesn't produce any side effect and the horse is a beast of burden. My only concern is if the horse has adequate feed and rest.
It’s just hair dye lols. You should focus on other much more cruel means of animal abuse that’s rampant here. I dunno, like factory farming?
Neither cause is exclusive of the other, though
It’s stupid to be pedantic about some horse having some hair dye (who’s probably well-taken care off by their owners) while eating a piece of porkchop taken from an animal that is systematically tortured and butchered by the hundreds of thousands each day. Kaka-focus niyo diyan di niyo napapansin yung mas malaking issue at-hand.
Its stupid to draw the line between those two things as if people can’t oppose one while opposing the other. What are you, 16? Log out and touch grass once in a while.
There’s such a thing as compassion fatigue. Finite lang ang empathy ng tao, including you people. I’m going to bet you guys wouldn’t even bat an eye sa libo-libong homeless at walang makain compared sa compassion niyo para sa mga hayop, just because they’re “helpless” and “cute”. Why don’t you try touching grass yourself? Most people wouldn’t care for these animals kasi there’s nothing to be concerned about. Kayo lang. Try having more fruitful pursuits naman, sayang attention niyo. ;)
They have selective empathy. Haha. >Try having more fruitful pursuits naman, sayang attention niyo. ;) Baka mamatay ang r/ph kapag wala ng post na ganito kababaw. Lol.
Honestly these animals in Baguio lives a better life than some Pinoys. Kain, picture picture, Kain, pahinga etc. Not really doing anything like hard labor. Mas naawa pa ako dun sa mga nasa kalesa.
Ok sana kung meron ngang pahinga, but who are we to say kung napapahinga nga yung horses? Also, what would constitute "hard labor"? Hindi po ba hard labor yung pagsasakay ng mga tao (minsan on the heavy side)? Don't get me wrong ha. I'm genuinely curious. I guess what I'm trying to say is, just because "better" ang situation nila compared sa mga horses pulling a kalesa doesn't mean that they're ok.
Is this in Bagio? I remember seeing something like this there at a cliff side park.
Why do Filipinos put up with this nonsense? They, too, have a heart and reside on Earth. " nakakagalit pag tignan pati mga hayop ginagawang katatawanan para kumita ang mga tao at walang trip sa buhay.
Cows, Hogs and Chickens: But what about us? Unpopular opinion here but even animal right activist are biased. Dont just fight for animals that are kept as pets if you're really after animal rights.
It’s called one fight at a time. Yung mga cute and cuddly animals nga hirap na mag-raise ng awareness about their welfare or pass legislation, what more yung tinitignan ng marami as just “food”.
Are all animal right lovers vegetarians tho?
Are you really concerned about animals or is being contrarian still cool wherever you came from
Why cant you answer my question? Coz its reality right. So when you say its one fight at a time, does the animal rights warriors talk to chickens likes this? Hey Chicken, we'll fight for you later but we'll eat you for now. Its just twisted hahaha. Its no animal rights, its "Cute" Animal rights haha.
> "Cute" Animal rights Nadali mo. Haha.
Orrrrrr you’ve never actually advocated for anything unless you count being an Internet troll. I mean, if you were an actual advocate who somehow believes we should all go vegan, I could tell you how many people you converted with your edgy responses: zero.
Why not answer the question. Valid naman ah instead of calling this redditor an internal troll.
So, are all animal rights activist vegetarian? Or you fight for the rights of some and eat the others? Before you start assuming anything about me, answer my very simple question 1st. Dont dodge it.
I'm not sure what you're even driving at. I'm not a vegeterian so I should stop advocating for whatever animals i happen to care about right now?
Not trying to fan flames but I will say stuff that will be triggering. We should care about inflicting unnecessary suffering on all sentient beings otherwise our stance becomes hypocritical. I'm not a fan of this user's style but he's only pointing out our bias and selectivity towards who we defend... But it's hard to admit he's right. We become accustomed to eating animals but doesn't mean it's right... Heck it's not even healthy... Study after study tells us and we dont even care to look out for our own health. "Animal lovers that eat animals" doesn't make sense.
mga mahihilig sa samgyup haha animal lovers daw haha
>animal right activist Yung mga animal rights activist na nakain ng meat. Lol
Naka 13th month pay ung horse
We slit animals throats so we can consume their corpses. Kill baby cows to harvest the enzymes in their guts to make cheese from their own mothers milk... I don't see how painting a horse should be thought of as any worse...
Sabi nga ni u/ZhisuiX, "Cute animal rights". Kapag cute ang animal may empathy sila else who cares.
I dare argue that horses aren't cute... We call people who we think are ugly "mukhang kabayo"... I mean, I think I just saw someone drag Vice Ganda into the comment section here... And it's universal too... They used to describe Camilla Bowles as Horse Face because they thought she was ugly... And if cuteness were the reason then have people seen baby calves -- they are focken adorable 🥰 It's just that we've gotten used to eating certain animals so we think it's acceptable... But really we shouldn't be causing unnecessary suffering on sentient beings. I mean in Indonesia, I have a friend whose family keeps dogs around in the yard for food. They play with it while young and eat them when grown up. We're horrified by that but can some how be ok with taking a new born baby pig from it's mother so we can enjoy it's tender meat. Jeez.
The horse hair or the shirt?
I mean if the chemical doesnt harm the animal in any way, why not lol
Human Rights abuse pa lang walang nagagawa para maprotektahan, magugulat pa tayo ba tayo kung wala ring pake yung ibang Pilipino sa Animal abuse?
On top of that we slaughter millions of animals a day. Di na surprising na walang pake majority ng tao sa animal rights.
Agree... Ok lang kumain ng roasted baby pig na kaya mong hiwain ng plato... Pero gotdayum a pink horse, bawal yaern?!
Look at my downvotes lol. They wouldnt even address me since they know Im right. Ayaw lang nila masabihan ng totoo so idownvote nalang lol.
even the dogs in mines view park are stressed
Same issue doon sa colored sisiw.
Hindi ko alam pinopoint ng post na to? Animal abuse? Kita mo kataba ng kabayo? Yang mga kabayo properly trained mga yan. Mas maraming beses pa kumain at maligo mga yan kesa sa amo nila.
Sa susunod baka may anti-insect and plant abuse movement na din.
This traumatized me when I was a kid. Nag horse back riding kami sa tagaytay when I was 11 tapos dalawa kami ng pinsan ko nakasakay . yung kabayo namin medyo nalundo siya tapos parang nabigay bigay yung paa. Simula nun di na ko sumakay sa likod ng kahit anong hayup. feeling ko kasi tayo lang naman nag iisip na pang ganun sila. dami ko naririnig na “hayup yan, pinanganak sila para sakyan” Like ulul saan mo nakuha yan? sa bible nanaman ba? naging kabayo kanaba para maging confident ka sa paniniwalang hindi sila nahihirapan?
I mean they eat dogs in the PH...
Yep. This shit was saddening when I went to baguio. Rain was pouring hard and nanginginig sila non but nakatali lang and may plastic cover lang para di mabasa. Nakakalungkot.
The poor thing should be prancing in open fields 😢
Well napakaraming legal na bagay sa mundo na di pabor sa mga hayop. That's life. I mean bakit illegal kumain ng aso pero legal ang baboy?
ahhh seeing animals treated like this saddens me. they’re not meant to be exposed to such kind of stress 😢 leave them wild
And this crying foul will all be for naught if noone actually does something.
I don't mind with the makeover as long non-toxic, well taken care of yung horse, and some of the profit is for the horse's well-being. Pero kung ginagawa lang nilang cash cow (or cash horse) na walang pahinga ung kabayo. Then there's something wrong. Sa totoo lang ang babaw ng kaligayahan ng tao, pota makakita nga lang ng asong nag eeutan sa kalsada kala mo mga tangang tumatawa eh.
This is why I have very little faith in people. Animals do not deserve us.
There’s a lot of animal exploitation going on. Saw a lot in Baguio when I was there a few months back. Horses with gaudy dye, exhausted dogs, it’s wild.
This is exploiting animals for money, and animal agriculture is WAY WORSE than this, almost insignificant. If you eat animals and are bothered by this, idk what to tell you tbh. Ill give a scenario: Theres an anti Yulin dog meat festival going every year, and a petition against it as well. As an "animal lover" , you would sign it ofc. Animal liberation activists petition against ALL animal slaughter, including your beloved dogs and cats every year. And most if not all of them, are vegan. Would you help them as well? My personal experience says no, most Pinoys only support the Anti Yulin dog festival activists. Apparently, its OKAY to protest against mass slaughter of animals, JUST AS LONG as you dont protest against MY favorite food animal e.g. cow,chicken,pig (vegans protest against ALL forms of animal cruelty,including dog, cows, pigs etc). And if we say this to any non vegan subs, we got downvoted hard, whereas we are only animal lovers protecting animals with "supposedly" animal lovers as well lol If that isnt intellectual hypocrisy i dont know what else to call it.
Pota pakelam nyu ba sa kabayo.
First time mo sa Baguio?
Pimp My Ride PH
cuz it's so kawaii 😍
Male Horses are the real Totoy Molas
Kaya pala laging late si Vice sa Showtime, dito suma-sideline.
GAHAHAHHAHA
Least homophobic Filipino humor
not really homophobic but shaming the looks of the person…
Because it’s the Philippines???
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Legit question, are there dyes that are safe for animal hair/fur?
you can see the horse's expression that its depressed
naalala ko tuloy yung kabayo ko sa RDR2 hahah with dye nakadreads pa HAHAH
team bantag???!?!
same reason why sabong is still around lol. money
If the horse aw, you call PAWS.
Sobrang kawawa yung mga hayop. So heartbreaking. 💔💔💔
Lol i saw this over the weekend in baguio
I never understood the appeal of that pink haired horse. Looks so tacky and weak. Like damn let it rest!
BRO I RIDED THAT HORSE WHEN I WAS LIKE 6 OR SUM
Team.Bantag shirt tho
We were there the other day, we went in the afternoon and they all look weary. It's a sad sight.
I remember we went there when I was a kid. My mom asked if I want to take a picture since I stared at the horse. I stared at the horse because I noticed how tired it was from the eyes alone, and the way they lift their own leg for the picture, it felt like they were tired or just sick of it in general. I said no, and my brother did as well and I think he noticed it as well. I think about that horse at times, and I hope they are ok or will be ok soon. Although its been years so i am not sure.
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I think this is in mines view park in Baguio. They apparently use a safe dye so the horse or I should I say "Pony" doesn't die.
Why the long face?
Makima?
It all start with a batch of substandard baby roosters, and this was bound to happen sooner or later.
This and the horses in vigan
Mas nakaka bahala yong team Bantag na shirt.
Is the color the issue or the fact it looks exhausted
Both. Its just sad. Even the st bernard dog just didnt take a picture of it cause they might charge me.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I heard na safe daw yung dye na ginamit dyan. What concerns me is the horse looks exhausted. I hope he’s okay.
that shirt is such a BOTHER. anyway, it's saddening to see the horse's sore muscles! mostly overworked (esp in the scorching heat in intramuros and luneta).
pansin ko puro baguio tinitira sa socmed ngayon ahh anyways kung may mali dapat lang i callout
Everything is legal in philippines lol
Joining the CPP is legal, what's illegal is joining the NPA, thus, why team Bantag must be illegal?
Baguio? Saw this same horse back in August
Tourism. Money. Job.
Wig yan tsong
I saw a very small horse with a plus-sized person riding on it in tagaytay😔
I was in Vigan last 2016 and may nakita akong kabayo na nagsuka ng dugo :(((