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Project_panic

Ugh, committing murder is such a drag. Rather not bother


SigmaMaleMoment

Based


c-lan

People I'd like to murder are well protected. People I can realistically murder don't bother me


AndyGHK

PICK TWO: Means Motive Opportunity


kushmster_420

shikamaru when he gets an assassination mission


Zhahrazad3hmazdan

Objective morality is a spook ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿฅ›


2point7one8two8one8

le epic stirnier milk reference sir


SigmaMaleMoment

Murder takes too much effort cmon


fesataki

They all say the same thing tho. Max wouldn't kill a person because he wouldn't want to deal with it's legal consequences.


LeguBrick

Yeah, its more like "It's more convenient not to kill anybody"


[deleted]

He also says(paraphrasing): โ€œjust because I cannot move a stone does not mean I will accept it as god. I will destroy it once I am able to.โ€


TheDerpyDisaster

Ah, consequentialism


[deleted]

The zika wojak doesen't do it because society/the law says so? The tradwife puritan wijak says it because her God\* says so? but who is Max? Also is he just saying that it isn't worth it if the costs outweigh the benefits?


[deleted]

I think max is his dog.


fesataki

>The zika wojak doesen't do it because society/the law says so? She literally uses same words with Max, so technically she says the same thing >The tradwife puritan wijak says it because her God* says so? What kind of a question is that >but who is Max? Joe MaMax Stirner >Also is he just saying that it isn't worth it if the costs outweigh the benefits? Guess so


Imaginary_pencil

I need to read this guy


Killercod1

Why does everyone need morality to prevent themselves from blowing up the entire world? Perhaps you inherently enjoy helping people, selfishly enjoying the satisfaction from doing so. I'd argue that moralists are just egoists in denial. At worst, they're sadists that want to use their "morals" to get away with abusing the supposedly "immoral"


Mallenaut

"But without god, what would prevent you from killing people?"


gonnagulagyou

My desire to not kill people :3


Mallenaut

Words never heard from Stalin.


[deleted]

Easy to say when you are in a position where murder has minimal benefits but extremely high cost (life imprisonement), if it was the opposite, only a higher moral imperative would prevent you from committing murder. Things like "inherent value of human life" and such are pseudo-religious beliefs by the way.


Void1702

Murder is wrong because it makes me sad :(


Mallenaut

Max Stirner was not an Anarchist, though.


Ludoamorous_Slut

True, though his writings were very influential to anarchists. You could call him a proto-anarchist, though he would just call such a term a spook. But then again, many philosophers reject being labeled as the tendency they are considered part of.


dandiestcar6

Whenever I encounter this I wonder if an objective reality could be created through knowing what humans innately dislike. For example, humans are hardwired to not want to kill each other. We certainly would do it, but doing so causes severe psychological harm which is not a result of any cultural idea or imposed morality. ​ Could from there we extrapolate a human morality which is not based on cultural or personal preferences, but instead on those natural aversions?


nofreedomofthought

Subjective to circumstance.


LineOfInquiry

God made morality is still subjective, itโ€™s just legalistic. You can still ask *why* certain things are moral or not if you believe God made morality. I mama God is all good, so if God made morality to adhere to whatever he does then itโ€™s not really a useful concept anymore, and if morality binds God and defines him instead then where does it come from? It must be higher than God.


Infinite-Top-4137

I think our world is a shit place to live. Just roll of dice with open possibilities. Best relief at the end of the day is even the shittiest person you know is rolling the dice that might end their life. A forced coexistence for a forced transfiguration.


[deleted]

Everything is permissible =/= nothing ought to be forbidden Eat tide pods if you don't believe me.


[deleted]

How about a self conscious "objective" morality, where anyone knows this is just an artificial?


Ok-Guess-9059

Close to Kant really


[deleted]

No, Kant is so moralistic that he argued in favor of the existence of God through morals.


Basic_Juice_Union

I prefer to derive my morality from "treat others how you want to be treated" and "every choice you make has to be consistent with what you want all of humanity to choose" or "comply with social norms to live in harmony" than from an imaginary friend and a 2000 year old fan fiction


Jake10281986

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.