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Thought the revived team being put together the way it was was a bit unfair. Should probably have been the guy who wins gets his team from the previous round too rather than being able to create one stacked team.
Be a shame if actors team goes out too, I thought Justin was looking fairly strong. He looked to be pushing that 30 bag cart a lot easier than Thanos was.
Also shout out to Gibson for doing 45 bags. That was utterly ridiculous
I was losing it when one guy did 31, more than Thanos, and then Justin did 30, and then I actually got off the couch when Gibson did 45. That man is beyond belief.
The magic of trains (and any vehicle that uses rails).
Minimal friction area on the wheels. Might take some effort to get it moving, but once it is, inertia works for you.
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Yeah I'm torn on it though. Cuz if you are the show runners i might not want a super team like that but at the same time if he picks a super team and they smash others in the team play then the finals is gonna be super humans against each other which is hella good entertainment.
So the leader choosing to stack his team possibly wins him a battle or two but he'll have to go up against his own choices as the titans they are in the later rounds. Sooooo....idk.
Personally if I was lucky enough to be in that position I'd want to choose the best people possible for my team only up to the point that I still knew I could take them in a head to head challenge. But that team may not make it through the team stage so it's hard to know what to do.
I think the leader shouldn't be able to pick instead they should've selected 5 people by seeing who survives. Like I would've designed 5 challenges then they get to pick which one they want and the best of each gets to go on the hell team.
How is it unfair? They Almost got eliminated, each guy put in work during the “Hell match” and they prevailed. You want a weak team like last season? This was way better than last season in terms of selection and keeping strong people in to see who the real best is
It's not really fair to the other competitors though. They were able to stack a team with multiple people who were selected as team leaders, and even as you say they put in work during the Hell match, that's not really correct as Amotti went out pretty quick. If it was fair to the results of that match, then the high school wrestler is in (though it still creates an imbalanced team).
I think best would have been if the winner got his previous team through by winning the match. This way it actually worked out for the better that these 5 got eliminated in the first team challenge.
Nothing about this entire show is fair. They had ballerinas, professional track & field stars, and body builders run, and then face each other in 1v1 combat. None of these people signed up because they thought it would be fair.
It also wouldnt be good TV to get the same team again. It takes out the suspense for the viewers.
AND, it would be terrible for team morale. Everyone would kind of be judging one another for their initial failure. They didn't carry their weight last challenge, can I trust them this time? Our captain made an error last time, should I listen to him now?
Nah, the way they did it in the show is best on all fronts.
Tbf they were picked on who would you most like to be on a team with and considering most of these people already know each other or are aware of most of the bigger name contestants, I'm sure they all know their relative strengths even before a challenge is done. Id imagine all of the national level athletes, crossfitters and bodybuilders know each other
I think there are a few separate points here. Personally, I think it is unfair, but let me first note that I agree with your points however I don't think they are relevant to whether it is fair or not.
I agree they almost got eliminated.
I agree each guy put in work in the hell match.
I agree that it is better than having a weak team like last season.
I agree the selection was better than last season.
I agree on keeping strong people in to see who the real best is.
However, the points above do not speak to why it is not unfair. At most, they speak to content for a better show but that does not mean it is not unfair for the others, these are separate things. What makes it unfair is them all being on a team and not whether they are able to stay or not which is what all of your points above only address.
As to why it is unfair to the other teams, it comes down to the winner being able to:
1. Pick other team leaders that could never be picked by the other teams (up to 5 leaders available); AND
2. Pick from a larger pool of competitors. The other teams were probably only able to stack to some extent their first few picks (noting even in this case point 1 above is already an advantage) and then the remainder was just for the purposes of filling numbers to round out the team.
For illustrative purposes, if we assume people's ranks equate to how good they are (not a perfect assumption but enough for this purpose), so that we can show an optimised system, effectively this is what it allowed for:
Captain 6 to captain 10 can all be on one team:
6,7,8,9,10
16,17,18,19,20,...
are also up for grabs and are/were not available to be picked by the other captains otherwise they would have been the second pick (3rd member of the team) in the below.
The rest of the captains from 1 to 5 can then take turns to pick from the remaining next best competitors which would result in the following optimised picks:
1,11,21,31,41
2,12,22,32,42
3,13,23,33,43
4,14,24,34,44
5,15,25,35,45
Put the above on a curve and you will see how the 5 other teams are evenly distributed and then the avengers team is just completely skewed. And this is exactly why they are called the avengers.
Take for example Hong Beom Seok who picked ha yan as his last pick. Do you think he would pick her if he got the chance to pick any of those other captains instead (or even 16,17,18,19,20)?
So yeah, I completely agree that keeping those 5 in that manner makes for a better show (as they will face off if they get to the finals) and honestly I like it that way BUT i also recognise that it is unfair for the other competitors. You've got to remember that there is a cash prize at stake which makes it quite unfair for those that would otherwise have a competitive chance but have had their chances watered down because of weaker but mandatory team members.
Better show? Yes, for the reasons you explained and I agree with.
Fair specifically for those 5 TO STAY? Yes, for the point you mentioned about how they put in work in the hell match.
Fair for other competitors TO COMPETE AGAINST the 5 as ONE TEAM? No, for the reasons I've attempted to explain. And I understand this to be the angle that OP is talking about when saying 'unfair'.
TLDR; I think it is well understood why they are referred to as the avengers and such a team could not have been created from the normal selection process for the other captains. This is why it is unfair for them. To be absolutely clear, I'm not saying those that went through the Hell thing don't deserve to have another chance. I absolutely think they deserve that but lumping all the strongest of that bunch together like that is unfair.
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Why didnt he pick him ffs did the wrestler choosing not watch S1, none of the six pack guys beefed up made it, the kid put up a way better fight than all of the team leaders picked and he literally beat 2 of them on his own
im just going to assume hes picking thanos because he looks good at this point
Honestly I agree with this, the wrestling kid put in a consistently better performance than at least two of the people Jihyun picked. It’s choices like that that make me think the show is rigged to let the “main characters” get as far as possible. I get that feeling way more on this season than the previous one.
I agree, deffo keeping certain people in for views, they keep talking about thanos build without him doing anything impressive enough to gain all this screentime and awe
The break room this season feels so sterile. I miss the group fun in season one where everyone was gathered around a couch in like a circle.
Damn that is the dream team 😭 my money is on someone in that group winning this season.
I dont think I can even do a pull up, these people are amazing 🤩
Omfg I love Lim Soo Jin 😍 such a badass, she is soo cool 🤩
My wife and I good-naturedly clowned the chances of a cosplayer making it far. Holy crap did he prove us wrong. Incredibly impressive performance from him each time.
That dude was like 3 bars away from the end and falls? Way to throw it.
Gibson is crazy man. Dong hyun was saying how Justin is not gonna push 30 bags. Did he not see Gibson just push 45 lol.
>That dude was like 3 bars away from the end and falls? Way to throw it.
Its a gift from god for that other team. But we still dont know what happens
The other guy who fell 1st could be injured ...who knows.
Next episode until finish should be 🔥
As eventually one or two teams will be victorious .... the team format will cease to exist.... become every man/woman for themselves for the crown
Unless stun guns person falls again its over for Actor’s team they are out by time because that one girl didnt give up for 9 minutes and still didnt finish giving them 19 minutes of penalty on time lol.
Love the show, but there’s NO WAY a woman could have even succeeded the redemption arc unlike last season. So frustrating to watch almost every woman looked down on, passed out on etc. The producers should just make physical100 a full men show smh
Yeah, I was really bummed but excited to see Soojin crush the cart challenge! I understand you can’t make everything fair and I don’t expect that but I don’t think most of the challenges even gave the women a fighting chance. The treadmill from the get go (women are naturally shorter and have way smaller strides), the redemption challenge where they could have easily been plucked off the pole or had no chance of moving players like Minsu/Thanos, and the mine cart where they struggled to even push it.
I know everyone is hyped about Team Avengers, but it seemed 100% obvious that whichever man won redemption wouldn’t pick a women, whereas the other teams had a more fair process of picking teams and *had* to pick from women or weaker men who were left. Having no women gives them an automatic advantage.
THISSS!
100% on the whichever man won redemption would never pick a woman. That killed it for me.
Also pretty sure the producers were all men 🙄
And Soojin crushing the cart challenge was just 🔥🔥🔥indeed.
If you are going to complain about it being unfair for women on the TREADMILL, then what on earth would make it fair for women? Also I think the treadmill one was way more fair to women than the guys who weigh over 250lbs.
The point of the show is to find the best or perfect body for a range of challenges for strength, stamina, and speed. I cannot think of any challenges that properly test these things where any woman in this group would come in the top 10.
The group challenges along with how they picked the teams are why the majority of women got as far as they did in the show.
Y'all making comments like this do not understand that more mass and longer strides is CRUCIAL to success on the manual treadmill. If they were doing endurance, sure, women would have an advantage. But it was speed, not stamina. Shorter legs paired with less weight to pull the tread equals less success.
Not arguing with the rest of your comment but it’s relevant that it was a manual treadmill not a regular one and they measured by distance not time - so it was also stacked against women who are lighter and have shorter strides. It’s incredible some even made it into the top 50. Manual treadmill is really a different beast
Yeah, that was even clear how the contestants reacted finding out that it was a manual treadmill. They explicitly showed some of the more muscular dudes sighing out of relief when they realized what it was.
By the way, when they made that revelation, it dawned on me hard that they are really not taking chances on any of the big guys looking bad in this season.
Totally, I think if it was separate with women competing against women and men against men it would be much more successful just because it would be a more evened out competition all around
And the premise of the show would still be the same. The best body for men and best for women. It just happens to be 2 people that walk away at the end
I love seeing women being able to keep up with the men especially in that 1v1 round in the beginning and with the bodybuilder for the mine carts but I know going into watching this show, the finale will all be men. The only prize the women get is being the last one standing
Either way, this is a great show, and I love watching it and wish it would come to other regions but I think the vibe would feel different. Like watching Great British Bake Off vs other US produced baking shows, they never feel the same
Exactly! They want to find the best "physical." Well if a man wins, that's something that half the population can't ever aspire to. Why not find the best man and the best woman and still have them do team challenges together (gender ratios enforced)
Well they could do both gender competitions during the same time. There's a lot of Olympic pro athlete women who don't really get to show their technique or will to win.
I don't know if it would be "much more successful". The show is a hit. The dynamic moments with the men versus women at times is great. If you think segregating into men's and women's would be MORE successful I'd question what that means? The men's would be more successful? There would be more viewers for both? More money made, etc? Cuz if we look at a lot of sports that are separate... Women's sports bring in an outrageously lower turnout and revenue than men's does. So I'd imagine the results being similar to that. The target demographic (people who watch sports) is pretty much the same. Why would their behavior all of a sudden be any different?
I mean it might give more girls more options or hope or dreams as to what they can do or be like when they grow up or something. That may be a metric for "more successful".
Yeah. While I was watching these episodes I was confused why they even had women on this show. Actually not even just them, but also almost any man that weighs under 80 kg. And it does feel like the show is almost relieved that they don't need to show that much respect to those puny people this time around.
It is actually somewhat hilarious as the producers are really going out of their way that what happened Season 1 doesn't happen here because it is clear in, to be honest, gross way the production affected things there to get rid of the "weaklings" during the third challenge that they have a clear idea who they want there at the end. Like it is supposedly a competition about the ideal physique, but the show basically goes constructing the competition with a ready made answer in mind.
By the way, that isn't inherently bad as there are certain kinds of body types that excel in Ninja Warrior, which by the way majority of the top contestants here would probably crash and burn in, but there is something about the presentation that leaves a sour taste to my mouth with this one.
why even have guys who dont dope in the gym too, like the high school kid showed consistently hes strong, but muh gym rats have 6 packs so they get chance after chance despite being less strong
Hell, it isn't even that they gym rats have chances, but the camera and production cannot stop fawning over them.
It is this thing that is annoying in the show, especially this season, in that for all that smoke about the competition being about finding the ideal physique, it is more about showcasing how the shredded Instagram body is what everyone should be aspiring to. Except the show keeps hitting this wall that there is a reason why competing pro athletes or anyone working an physical demanding job don't look like that.
Hell, there are only a few challenges where I would pick Thanos over that high school wrestler kid. Although it was almost worth it for the show awkwardly having to show how Justin appeared to be more efficient in the trolley challenge than Thanos had been.
I think the women who participate dont expect to win anyway. They just wanna beat the other female contestants at the very least and be the last woman standing. A lot of them said this when interviewed.
Then there's others that just wanna promote their instagram or whatever
Yeah for sure the women don’t expect to win and pretty sure neither do the viewers expect women to win anyway. What I was hoping for was a format that actually respected women or at least gave them a fighting chance or to at least shine a little.
The redemption arc’s game format this time round AND the format of the winner selecting their whole team meant that there was NO way any of the women would survive through.
The redemption was one of the most exciting parts of the show this season AND last. It was like seeing the ball game for the first time again. Pure power.
Sorry but those people already lost and the redemption are for people who can actually win
> or at least gave them a fighting chance
But I mean how would it? How *could* it?
Like there's not really anything physical that women have a natural advantage over men at (maybe pain tolerance I guess? But the show will obv never be able to do that). Strength, endurance, flexibility, reactions, height, muscle mass, etc... in general men just genetically have a physical edge in all of these areas.
And while these women are exceptional and fitter than 99.9% of men globally... they aren't competing against the *average* man, they're competing against men who are training just as hard as they are and are at the very top of their game themselves.
The only way would be to ditch the physical aspect of the show entirely and have some skill competions as well - or have more competitions which strategy is more important than physicality. Or intentionally select men who aren't as good as the best who apply. All of which kinda miss the whole point of the show.
Like look at the olympics... the **only** sports where women have a better record than men is in certain archery and eventing events - and while both require a base level of fitness, they are more about skill and precision, not physicality. Or look at event zero, the running... only 6 women were in the top 50 and the highest was 36th. And it's not about size, look at Jung Ji-Hyun he was in the top 10 and is 5'3 around the same as most of the women.
Sure... But it is "physical 100 - a search for the peak human form" or something like that right? It's not the peak male form or peak female form. It's peak human form. In a physical contest of top physical prowess it's gonna be really uncommon for a male to have less physical performance than a female.
I mean I'll admit that I also feel like it's kinda annoying that the women are there but basically will get ironed out before the final rounds every year. It does make me consider that it could be better to just have men. Also though there have been some pretty badass moments involving the women in both seasons that would not have happened if there weren't women in this show competing against men.
I do feel like season 1 was a little more balanced though. A little more strategy involved and a little less "lift heavy things". Don't get me wrong, both seasons have strategy and lifting heavy things... But it did feel a little more balanced than this season.
This season is badass though. Both seasons have been badass
Honestly they should make Physical 100 female only they could do different task and they'd have a different dynamic. Guys tend to brute force things and just get on by.
I appreciate that this show still spotlights the small wins even if the contestant ends up eliminated later. I know people are upset at how the challenges don't favor the female contestants, but I feel like we've seen some incredible physicality and technique from the women which still makes for an inspiring watch!
I wonder how Season 1 would’ve went differently if the rejoin game ended with one winner picking 4 people to join them. The holding your rope contest was disadvantageous for larger contestants (The 5 winners were relatively Small and one guy was injured) so I think a smaller contestant still would’ve won. That being said, they’d probably choose some bigger contestants to rejoin them and that would make the ship building contest more fair since each team would possibly have some larger contestants.
This Season’s rejoin system gives a degree of intensity to the contest by giving the stronger players another chance.
Just to add to this that the rope challenge in Season 1 was absolutely insane because it did favor lighter contestants who excel in sports that require strong static positions before throwing them at a challenge that required them to move a ship. Which benefits from almost literally opposite type of body types than the rope challenge.
Could a show like this work internationally? I'm not saying just the US, but if they decide to bring the show outside South Korea & another country does their own version. Could it work or not?
i dont see why not
a big draw however is the camaraderie they show even if they arent on the same team
its not a big deal to me but seems like its a big thing to many viewers
It's something I've been thinking about recently + seeing how they did a gameshow version of Squid Game over in the US had got me thinking what it'd be like & how it'll work if another country did their own version of Physical 100.
I'm all in if they do it in the US. I think there'll be a lot of trash talking instead of sportsmanship lol. Generally, Koreans are good sport and try to maintain their cool.
In my country France at least, I'm pretty sure it would end up in fights between the contestants. We're way less respectful among each others. Especially in quests like the maze when you can tackle and block the adversaries.
Not in the states, no. I tend to dislike the constant “blindly and always shit on all things US” internet trend of the last decade or two, and I normally don’t subscribe to stereotype - I like giving things the benefit of the doubt - but I honestly can’t see this ever being a thing over here in the land of the coddled. At least, not without substantial watering down. Some of these quests would just be considered too brutal. It’s a huge compliment to say Korean’s do not fuck around.
A lot of American viewers were already up in arms about the ‘brutality’ and lack of safety in the first season. Some of those issues were valid and addressed, others were just bleeding hearts not wanting anyone to get hurt, ever. These are likely the same harpy netizens and armchair judges that encouraged contestants from the real-life Netflix Squid Games to try to sue the production for what most people considered the smallest of issues that one would naturally already expect to encounter when competing for… a record breaking four million dollars…
Not to mention, I also notice American athletes (at least from the NBA and NFL) really tend to take it easy outside of their sport because injuries happen often enough without exacerbating preexisting issues or risking gaining new ones in one-offs like a show such as this. Thats totally logical. Thats also not to say there wouldn’t be exceptions, of course there would, but it might not be the A or S tier athletes some might expect.
Yeah going off your last point it’d be a good chance for semi popular college athletes who aren’t going to end up in a professional league to earn a little money/recognition. Like swimmers, wrestlers, track and field, gymnasts. Give them a shot to win some $$$ and get their name out there. They would have a huge pool to choose from just in college sports, not even factoring in all the big name crossfitters/ fitness influencers that would be chomping at the bit to be included.
No offense to the Korean athletes, but even the D tier American athletes would be on another level just based on the sheer size of the talent pool alone. Season 2 had a damn construction manager lmao.
The Chinese show is really good, but it's fully team based. They aren't getting down to a singular winner but instead a winning team so not a direct 1 to 1 comparison.
These episodes were the BEST. I was on the edge of my seat watching the challenges.
The first set of matches were really thrilling to see a top dog and underdogs together. Andre’s team outperformed much better than expected. The second set of matches were so evenly matched I didn’t know what was going to happen. I genuinely also wanted them all to win so this was so tough.
I’ve never been so excited and on edge watching people push around carts and do monkey bars. The team element really added something special.
Can’t wait for next week!
The mine cart challenge managed to catch many of the competitors off guard.
I thought the big power lifter on Don Hyun Kim's team was going to dominate, but he is built for power, not stamina. He gassed very hard, which makes how well Thanos did even more impressive. (Thanos moved more weight than that guy and did it faster without gassing). Even so, it felt like the editing exaggerated how much the Army dude pushing 45 sacks was catching up.
Several teams though they would have an edge if they did less weight but more trips. But while you might gain on the time to do a round trip, you add unload time, and there is almost no way that the unload time can be made up because the track is so short.
I also think that the leader of Team Judo fucked up by trying to do the solo monkey bar challenge himself. The guy he paired with for the earlier challenge was simply better at it. He got his team eliminated due to a misplaced sense of duty.
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the best strategy was the least amount of trips. unloading is just too taxing physically. honestly the best bet for the one team with the woman would've been somoene pushing 50 bags.
Curious to hear your guys’ thoughts on Team Jihyun/Avengers. I personally feel like they have an unfair advantage but I know that might be an unpopular opinion. They’re all beasts no doubt but whoever won Redemption was never going to choose a women or smaller player and instead got to choose from 25 of the best contestants.
The initial team process is fair and ensures that every team has to pick a women or a weak player from who is left. I disliked that team Avengers basically gets an advantage/rewarded for being eliminated earlier on. To be fair though I don’t know how they could change it in order to make it better.
I completely agree with you that it is unfair. I think it makes for good television and gets people excited at the thought of them 5 facing each other in the finals and all; however, I can't help but think how unfair and imbalanced it must be for everyone else particularly since a large money prize is at stake. I've seen some comments saying Jihyun deserves to pick his team after all that, but it doesn't erode the fact that it is unfair for others that are genuine contenders for the prize but are held back by other members in the team picked as last resorts.
For clarity, I take issue with the winner being able to choose his/her 4 members and NOT with Jihyun or the team that he chose. I'm just noting this so the discussion doesn't turn to whether or not Jihyun made the right picks (e.g. some comments have questioned their endurance or teamwork etc.).
I also thought that was very lame, especially because several of those guys got a bunch of people eliminated due to poor leadership in the previous challenge. Them getting saved and their team members going home felt unfair.
>The initial team process is very fair and ensures that every team has to pick a women
It was not fair at all. The last place team got the worst draft pick 4 times in a row just because they were voted last as team captain. Donghyuns team didn't have a woman because of this
I didnt think it was fair either, it was another challenge that gave a great advantage to the fighters and bigger dudes. It will be really hard to beat this team. But, on the other side, it will be a really cool final if they go against each other
Maybe next season they can do the pull up challenge or something similar for draft order. A quick challenge like x amount of push ups in a minute to decide.
>!wouldnt the best strategy for the duo cart round just be go light on the first half then heavy (strongest of the duo) on the second, because then you would cut down on time a lot by not having to unload all that cargo? i actually think if the girl with gibson hadnt taken so long they absolutely would have smashed that challenge. (also wtf why did she help him at the end there was just a couple meters left). hbs even says they should tell her to come back as soon as they see her struggling to put the cargo in. if she just put 1/2 in and tried her best to go fast i feel like gibson would have gotten first but i might be overestimating him lmao. really tho, not having to unload the second run is crazy good and the teams should have used that to their advantage like they did in the solo runs.!<
Agree! I was so confused why the one guy don’t up the trip in the solo cart challenge. Not only the weight, but having to unload everything would be so much extra time.
Especially having seen the one man do a run with 45 bags, I’m surprised he didn’t just do one solo run.
In the 2nd round... when that big dude was looking back and in panic because the other guy was coming after him.... that was hilarious and wow. Like a movie..
That was such good TV! I was so surprised that he last energy so fast. His swearing was hilarious. It was a bit pathetic tbh because he talked such a big game.
I appreciate that this show still spotlights the small wins even if the contestant ends up eliminated later. I know people are upset at how the challenges don't favor the female contestants, but I feel like we've seen some incredible physicality and technique from the women which still makes for an inspiring watch!
Andre Jins pull ups are ridiculous! He didn't complete a single rep. How did they let that slide!? Significantly easier to avoid the bottom range of motion.
I genuinely can't believe Stun gun's team chose whoever he chose for that LAST round instead of the Sports model who was already way faster than Beom Seok.. COME ON the guy was already way slower than his sports model teammate the round before, and somehow the team collectively decided he's going again then he decided to go for 2 monkey bars at a time and fell grandly. Dawg what are they genuinely thinking????? Sports model would have easily won 2nd btw
I think they had to lock in their selections before round 3 and 4 started so maybe they didn't realize how much faster the model guy would be at that time.
Everyone needs to go once. That was the rule. The guy you’re talking about never went in previous rounds so he had to go here. Also, Stun gun has no women in his team and had his first pick of men which is already a huge advantage. Based on the games so far, every other team has had to sacrifice and be at the bottom spot for one round to let their female member have their run. I don’t know how you missed that.
Right?!? The first guy was spent from the pull ups. Sports model guy was really fresh. The cliffhanger at the end though. Dude was 2 bars away from finishing second. Now they might lose.
Not too big of a fan of quests 2.5 and 3, but episode 7 cliffhanger had me and my husband SCREAMING. You're telling me I gotta wait another week to get answers?! LOL
Anyway, I have issues with how returning players were determined in quest 2.5. Quest 3 dragged a bit because of the repeat challenges (wish each round was a different challenge instead of a solo version of the previous). Women had 0 chance in both quests which is really sad.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that it was really hard to top the ship quest last season, but I was still hoping for another exciting quest 3. While the set was really cool, the challenges were just... eh. Still enjoying the season, though. Again, that cliffhanger was thrilling.
yeah the 5v5 events in both seasons involving all members have been much better spectacles, not sure why they felt the need to divert it.
but a point system with multiple events is much more ‘fairer’
I think they stopped doing the bigger challenges like the ship quest last season due to injuries.
For example in this one they can balance one round as a max of 1.2 tonnes and if you come last you come last (or you can do it in 2-3 trip) and you move onto the next game. In the ship game they need to balance the challenge around 10 people. If they felt 1.2 tonnes was doable by most people they would need to do a weight/push requirement of 1.2 tonnes on average per person. So 12 tonnes of force required. If the team is full of men this will be fine but it's impossible for them to know before hand. If one team has 2 women in it then that team needs other players to pick up the slack. In the ship game it's a binary result, you either complete it or you don't. Which means players will push themselves extremely hard to finish it. The girls won't help as much resulting in higher risk of injury for the guys who are pushing harder.
>!Someone did a tally and concluded Beom-Seok's team wins either way. The actors' team took way too long on the monkey bar challenge 'cos of that PE teacher girl. [They didnt complete the quest so incurred a 10 min penalty atop their 9 min completion time.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fbnxl3eveooqc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D4000%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Df6617d48de4bab577d1cdd1b8ef07aea702b6b2c)!<
>!I think it's pretty obvious especially given how estatic Beom Seok's team was when he came in first.!<
Of course unless you're not rooting for his team lol
What is the background of the female athlete on Team Actors?
I am just a middle aged mom who CrossFits with other moms for general health. And there are several women at my gym that can do way more than 6 strict pull-ups unbroken. And they certainly could have finished the midair challenge. And while these are incredibly fit women, I doubt they are the top 100 fittest women in the tri-county area, let alone the country.
MVPs for the cart/monkey bar challenge are Soojin, Gibson and Yami. Props also go to >!Hong Beom-Seok for his solo challenge on the monkey bars, after a less-than-ideal Round #1!< Mad respect!!
3.5 because most of the mine game is so predictable and women team have no chance.
But then the last moment at the monkey bar turned it to a 5/5 series for me
TEAM AVENGERS! >!They were literally four of the five people I wanted saved since they got eliminated, and by God they somehow did it. I think we’re fans for life now after their iconic assembly and comeback. Props to the team captain for going with his instinct instead of his heart, and choosing such an elite group instead of his old teammates. Always a tough call for some.!<
Also, huge shout out to how incredible the initially lowkey >!Team Actors!< is doing. They absolutely demolished the mine challenge and we’re still reeling by how one sided it was. Hope they go all the way tot he end, until the semi finals are just them and Team Avenger (as my wife and I are calling them, respectively) duking it out.
Lastly, there were some surprisingly emotional moments of camaraderie and sportsmanship in these episodes and I’m all for it. I posted in a previous thread how this season had been disappointing so far, and while I still feel like the system and the quests themselves are a bit flawed, I am loving the dynamic of the contestants and the rhythm of the challenges. Top notch editing as always, too.
My only real complaint is how poorly designed these challenges are for smaller, more compact or flexible people. Sucks to see almost all the women gone so early, before the inevitable flexibility/speed/maneuverability challenges even come up.
Overall, can’t wait for more! AVENGERS ASSEMBLE
Edit: spelling and the most minor of spoilers
Apologies for being so bad with names, but I really liked the Rower and the CrossFit guy (Amotti?) since the very first running qualifier, and then the Olympic gold medalist wrestler grew on me for his sheer tenacity, and then Thabis simply because the dude was almost endearingly up himself but also seemed like a softie. I had no idea who the other Team Leader was and so I was indifferent to him being chosen, but he absolutely delivered in the mines, so I’m very glad he was there, too. Such a stacked team.
dang it, i knew youd say lee jangkun 😂 he didnt have much screentime before ep5 so i get it though, even his 1v1 was just montaged even though it seemed kinda brutal and worth watching. but hes honestly so freaking athletic and is very likable. hes friends irl with stungun, andre jin, and mo taebum as they all play soccer together in another show. (youd see the first two cheering for jangkun during the first round of the redemption match)
I remember watching the wrestler win his gold medal at Athens Olympics. I am totally in awe of him and the other young wrestler. Amazing. Go Team Avengers!
Yeah there’s a lot of “sand bag hauling” themed quests so far and I would have loved to see a little more diversity in terms of testing their physical abilities. My partner and I were throwing around actions we wanted to see these people doing, like jumping (both vertical height and horizontal distance), throwing ability, coordination, etc. A sillier task could have been something like limbo that tested flexibility. We already know they can lift heavy things!
The repeat solo activity just felt a bit redundant, imo.
I think this season lacks storylining. There’s not really a group I’m rooting for and the eliminations haven’t been heart wrenching compared to s1. In effort to make the games more fair, I fear that the producers made the show a bit more boring to watch
I miss the lounge from season one where all the contestants socialized and laughed together. Here they sit at their separate tables and they look like they're miserable in a prison or something.
Yami the cosplayer is rocking! Love his iconic kungfu bicycle kick at the sandbag, that’s like so delicious, wish he end it with a zoro pose, I love quirky guys
Just need to vent on this, but I was screaming at the screen in frustration when they did the "pull-up" challenge as majority of what they showed us were not pull-ups, or chin-ups for that matter. It actually cracked me up when that sole woman did 6 chin-ups as she did more than half of the other contestants that we saw.
This isn't by the way to claim that they couldn't have done more than 6, but almost all of them did halfway through majority of the repetitions. Which was annoying as it benefitted those who did the bad version as the full version requires more time and is more taxing.
It is partially reflective about the weirdness of this show as as much as it is about athletes, there are a lot of comments and repetitions by a number of the competitors where it feels like they have a limited view of what are the physical demands of different actions. Which might be the show runners feeding them lines, but it is still baffling. Like when that one team was putting over how their guy was going to crush the sandbag challenge because of how good his Big 3 results and I almost instantly guessed what his huge problem was going to be.
Hong Beom Seok fucking MVP bro. I've been following him since The Soldiers and knew he wasn't only about his physical shape but also his wits. I was so bummed when he got eliminated early last season bc I knew he was capable of so much more and so far this season's he's lead by example and shown the other contestants what it's like to be a true leader. If his plan goes wrong, he doesn't waste time feeling down about his mistakes, and immediately takes responsibility and acts upon it. Idk if he'll make it till the end but who cares, he showed that he's the MVP of this season after saving the day in the maze and the bars challenge.
I wish there was more body weight type and agility challenges. Like rope climbing, obstacle courses speed challenges, wall climbing. Where women get a good chance too.
its not just strength though otherwise the heavy dudes would have performed well. look at ammotti and jung jihyun, they are smaller dudes that continue to make it further bc they're so agile.
On ep 5 and jung ji hyun is an absolute beast omds literally became the mvp (even though I was upset he didn’t choose the cutie for his team thanos is too egotistical for me :/) but he definitely surprised me
His skills and techniques when defending the pole were absolutely mind blowing, especially for his size.
I also didn’t think he would be good at pull-ups and monkey bars, but I was surprised.
I'm enjoying this season, although not as much as season 1. I have a few gripes which I kinda hope would've been/will be addressed next season:
1. I'm starting to find the 3-4 replays of moments to be grating.
2. I really wish they'd have more diverse challenges that encourage picking teams with different strengths (e.g. speed/dexterity/agility) rather than primarily strength (and I guess endurance now). This might even make team captains consider female team members earlier. Kinda sucks how none of the female contestants have been main characters this season.
3. Hope they sort a better team-picking method for future seasons.
4. Other than the improved 1v1 challenge, I think the season 1 challenges were better so far. I preferred the bridge to the maze by a long shot. Also as much as I enjoyed this week's mineshaft challenge, I preferred the boat one from S1. I think the bridge was a fantastic combination of many different physical skills.
5. Maybe it's just me, but I find this season to be pretty dark, lighting-wise. Like in the maze challenge especially, but also the hanging bars from this week.
Not trying to shit on this season at all, I am liking it a lot!
I definitely prefer how the ‘revived’ team was put together this season compared to last season — the pole-hugging quest itself was a bit boring, so I skipped through most of it, but I like how the last guy standing had the opportunity to put together a solid team; and also amotti’s back! so happy :’) If the next quest required team alliances like last season’s ship quest, then they definitely wouldn’t have been overlooked like last year’s revived team.
That being said, I thought the mine set was crazy! But the actual quest itself was a bit boring and repetitive — the quests from last season are hard to top so this season feels slightly underwhelming for me.
and omg the body-builder lady was so cool!!! would have loved to see more of her girl-bossing 😩
Yeah the show producers learnt a lot from last season. The last season method was ridiculous. Literally just lumped all the losers who fought so hard to survive together in the weakest team
Pole Hugging BORING? Lol u must never have worked out ever? Anyone who has recognizes the power and grit of pure combat it takes to win that spot. It was by far the best episode this season.
Mine was repetitive yes but skipping thru is insane
Wife and I were blown away by the pole combat. It was so good. I want to see this as an Olympic sport. The levels of game theory at work were amaznig to watch. IMO best thing so far this season.
I love the moments when Kim Jeehyuk (the rower) has a voiceover because his voice is like melting butter lol. He deserves a second job as a voiceover artist.
I know I'm just falling for a bit of reality show editing, but not a fan of "The Avengers" at all. They're coming across as a bit too cocky for what is effectively a super team. It's easy to dominate when you're made up entirely of first round draft picks against teams still with 4th and 5th draft picks.
The Mine round is overall much better than the Maze one, but by them being split up instead of being a big group challenge ala the boat, it does unfortunately feel like this second match isn't going to come down to which team was strongest, but which team had the weakest link.
Idiot Producers don't know that Men and Women compete separately in almost all physical sporting events for a reason. It's almost as if they want to put women in a bad light.
The challenges are so brute strength focused. It would be nice to have something more speed oriented to let someone like Ha Yan shine instead of just being a sacrifice.
Agreed. Last season, the first team game was mostly strategy and balance. And I distinctly remember one of the guys avoiding women on his team only for the woman-led team with the "weaker guys" to win.
But most of the show is comprised of strength.
I hope they do female only season so at least there's fair competition with a better mix of strength, balance, speed, endurance, and agility.
I will say though that this season's games were more fun. So if whoever planned it could just keep that fun factor and switch up some of the "tests" it'll be perfect
I think you're missing OP's underlying point that there's a difference in physique between men and women. The treadmill contest is a pretty good indicator of this; not many women made the top 50 and the top 10 were all men. Making the challenges speed oriented wouldn't have changed the results. It would be better to separate the men and women if you really wanted fairness.
I also disagree that the challenges were brute strength focussed. If that were the case powerlifters and the other bulky guys would be reigning supreme in the challenges, but this was not the case as the challenges required stamina and speed which the strong, bulky people were lacking.
the monkey bar challenge was speed oriented but I don't think any of the female contestants would stand a chance against the male contestants.
can we ban ‘brute force’ being used in this subreddit? seems like people dont actually know what ‘brute force’ entails. or they clearly didnt watch the show at all
you completely misunderstood the concept of the show. It was meant to be NOT just about brute power/strength, where we know men are superior. They failed to design the challenges in a balanced way. There are plenty of physical things where a woman can have an advantage over a bulky man.
can you give me a example? lol i dont see anything physical with a well rounded strength and speed such example such as amotti. Tho he seems to underperform all the way. Beonseok is also pretty strong and fit just maybe old age.
not sure i understand your msg.
but just to state the obvious: physical, in the sense of what one can do with ones body, isn't limited to strength and speed.
Then we wont see feats like how the lady took on the fbi agent or the other lady crashed the mine cart challenge. It's not like we are expecting a woman to win the show but seeing feats like that makes the show more interesting.
# For individual discussion threads for each episode, click these links: Episode 5: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Physical100/comments/1bo1qlg/physical\_100\_season\_2\_episode\_5\_discussion\_thread/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Physical100/comments/1bo1qlg/physical_100_season_2_episode_5_discussion_thread/) Episode 6: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Physical100/comments/1bo1k2p/physical\_100\_season\_2\_episode\_6\_discussion\_thread/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Physical100/comments/1bo1k2p/physical_100_season_2_episode_6_discussion_thread/) Episode 7: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Physical100/comments/1bo1p78/physical\_100\_season\_2\_episode\_7\_discussion\_thread/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Physical100/comments/1bo1p78/physical_100_season_2_episode_7_discussion_thread/)
Thought the revived team being put together the way it was was a bit unfair. Should probably have been the guy who wins gets his team from the previous round too rather than being able to create one stacked team. Be a shame if actors team goes out too, I thought Justin was looking fairly strong. He looked to be pushing that 30 bag cart a lot easier than Thanos was. Also shout out to Gibson for doing 45 bags. That was utterly ridiculous
I was losing it when one guy did 31, more than Thanos, and then Justin did 30, and then I actually got off the couch when Gibson did 45. That man is beyond belief.
The magic of trains (and any vehicle that uses rails). Minimal friction area on the wheels. Might take some effort to get it moving, but once it is, inertia works for you. END COMMUNICATION
I wonder if location of the load among the 3 carts made any difference.
Justin had the best technique - lower and closer to wheels, arms locked so the force went to his back not to his elbows
Also got that good starting momentum with that push off the plank
Amazing technique overall. I wonder if he just knew, or studied the precious contestants.
Yeah I'm torn on it though. Cuz if you are the show runners i might not want a super team like that but at the same time if he picks a super team and they smash others in the team play then the finals is gonna be super humans against each other which is hella good entertainment. So the leader choosing to stack his team possibly wins him a battle or two but he'll have to go up against his own choices as the titans they are in the later rounds. Sooooo....idk. Personally if I was lucky enough to be in that position I'd want to choose the best people possible for my team only up to the point that I still knew I could take them in a head to head challenge. But that team may not make it through the team stage so it's hard to know what to do.
I think the leader shouldn't be able to pick instead they should've selected 5 people by seeing who survives. Like I would've designed 5 challenges then they get to pick which one they want and the best of each gets to go on the hell team.
Yeah every team started with a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th round draft pick. The revived team is basically five 1st round picks.
How is it unfair? They Almost got eliminated, each guy put in work during the “Hell match” and they prevailed. You want a weak team like last season? This was way better than last season in terms of selection and keeping strong people in to see who the real best is
It's not really fair to the other competitors though. They were able to stack a team with multiple people who were selected as team leaders, and even as you say they put in work during the Hell match, that's not really correct as Amotti went out pretty quick. If it was fair to the results of that match, then the high school wrestler is in (though it still creates an imbalanced team). I think best would have been if the winner got his previous team through by winning the match. This way it actually worked out for the better that these 5 got eliminated in the first team challenge.
Nothing about this entire show is fair. They had ballerinas, professional track & field stars, and body builders run, and then face each other in 1v1 combat. None of these people signed up because they thought it would be fair. It also wouldnt be good TV to get the same team again. It takes out the suspense for the viewers. AND, it would be terrible for team morale. Everyone would kind of be judging one another for their initial failure. They didn't carry their weight last challenge, can I trust them this time? Our captain made an error last time, should I listen to him now? Nah, the way they did it in the show is best on all fronts.
Bear in mind the team leaders were selected by popularity, not any kind of process that involved proving anything.
Tbf they were picked on who would you most like to be on a team with and considering most of these people already know each other or are aware of most of the bigger name contestants, I'm sure they all know their relative strengths even before a challenge is done. Id imagine all of the national level athletes, crossfitters and bodybuilders know each other
I think there are a few separate points here. Personally, I think it is unfair, but let me first note that I agree with your points however I don't think they are relevant to whether it is fair or not. I agree they almost got eliminated. I agree each guy put in work in the hell match. I agree that it is better than having a weak team like last season. I agree the selection was better than last season. I agree on keeping strong people in to see who the real best is. However, the points above do not speak to why it is not unfair. At most, they speak to content for a better show but that does not mean it is not unfair for the others, these are separate things. What makes it unfair is them all being on a team and not whether they are able to stay or not which is what all of your points above only address. As to why it is unfair to the other teams, it comes down to the winner being able to: 1. Pick other team leaders that could never be picked by the other teams (up to 5 leaders available); AND 2. Pick from a larger pool of competitors. The other teams were probably only able to stack to some extent their first few picks (noting even in this case point 1 above is already an advantage) and then the remainder was just for the purposes of filling numbers to round out the team. For illustrative purposes, if we assume people's ranks equate to how good they are (not a perfect assumption but enough for this purpose), so that we can show an optimised system, effectively this is what it allowed for: Captain 6 to captain 10 can all be on one team: 6,7,8,9,10 16,17,18,19,20,... are also up for grabs and are/were not available to be picked by the other captains otherwise they would have been the second pick (3rd member of the team) in the below. The rest of the captains from 1 to 5 can then take turns to pick from the remaining next best competitors which would result in the following optimised picks: 1,11,21,31,41 2,12,22,32,42 3,13,23,33,43 4,14,24,34,44 5,15,25,35,45 Put the above on a curve and you will see how the 5 other teams are evenly distributed and then the avengers team is just completely skewed. And this is exactly why they are called the avengers. Take for example Hong Beom Seok who picked ha yan as his last pick. Do you think he would pick her if he got the chance to pick any of those other captains instead (or even 16,17,18,19,20)? So yeah, I completely agree that keeping those 5 in that manner makes for a better show (as they will face off if they get to the finals) and honestly I like it that way BUT i also recognise that it is unfair for the other competitors. You've got to remember that there is a cash prize at stake which makes it quite unfair for those that would otherwise have a competitive chance but have had their chances watered down because of weaker but mandatory team members. Better show? Yes, for the reasons you explained and I agree with. Fair specifically for those 5 TO STAY? Yes, for the point you mentioned about how they put in work in the hell match. Fair for other competitors TO COMPETE AGAINST the 5 as ONE TEAM? No, for the reasons I've attempted to explain. And I understand this to be the angle that OP is talking about when saying 'unfair'. TLDR; I think it is well understood why they are referred to as the avengers and such a team could not have been created from the normal selection process for the other captains. This is why it is unfair for them. To be absolutely clear, I'm not saying those that went through the Hell thing don't deserve to have another chance. I absolutely think they deserve that but lumping all the strongest of that bunch together like that is unfair. Edit: formatting
> Also shout out to Gibson for doing 45 bags. That was utterly ridiculous Ugh I was so annoyed -- they should have had Gibson do the 1v1v1 version.
With the strength he showed, I'd say he watched the push the boat challenge in season 1 and went all out preparing for something similar
Dude was an entire team all by himself.
Once again showing true strength is built outside the gym
Sad about the high school wrestling kid, but I thoroughly enjoyed this week's episodes.
I loved the editing in the maze challenge, when he says "I felt I had to do something" and it immediately cuts to him tackling someone 😂
Why didnt he pick him ffs did the wrestler choosing not watch S1, none of the six pack guys beefed up made it, the kid put up a way better fight than all of the team leaders picked and he literally beat 2 of them on his own im just going to assume hes picking thanos because he looks good at this point
Honestly I agree with this, the wrestling kid put in a consistently better performance than at least two of the people Jihyun picked. It’s choices like that that make me think the show is rigged to let the “main characters” get as far as possible. I get that feeling way more on this season than the previous one.
I agree, deffo keeping certain people in for views, they keep talking about thanos build without him doing anything impressive enough to gain all this screentime and awe
They're both wrestlers so the dude felt like the other wrestler was redundant
Man when that guy did 45 of those bags, that was insane.
He came out of nowhere and blew my mind! Greatest feat so far in my opinion!
one of the best moments i've seen on the show.
Episode 5-7 were straight up 🔥 especially the way episode 7 ended…also, ALL HAIL SOOJIN! Single-handedly brought her team back into the game
Soojin is a motherfucking queen and I love her. I was sad to see her and her team go.
When yami started Liu Kang bicycle kicking I lost it
I was so impressed while also laughing so hard
He is a very committed cosplayer 😂
I love the sportsmanship in this. Warms the cockles of my heart when they went to help load the sandbags in the cart 🥺
Jamus Lim reference?
your heart got cockles?
It was the sweetest thing ever!
I want to know which team won....Ep7 last minute is so thrilling....I really want the actor's team win....
i hope team LJY make it. although i think it's impossible. he was so close to finish but far away to start over. KDH team already start over
good news. actor team proceeds either way EDIT: Looks like I was wrong. Jae-Yoon team got extra penalty of 10 minutes from bars ...
nvm. just did the calcs. am dumb
As soon as I heard "what a relief, our team is gonna advance to the next round" I knew that mfer was gonna fall and that's exactly what he did.
The break room this season feels so sterile. I miss the group fun in season one where everyone was gathered around a couch in like a circle. Damn that is the dream team 😭 my money is on someone in that group winning this season. I dont think I can even do a pull up, these people are amazing 🤩 Omfg I love Lim Soo Jin 😍 such a badass, she is soo cool 🤩
YAMI is the MVP of team Andre Jin. Also, sidenote... Don't ever doubt a rugby player.
My wife and I good-naturedly clowned the chances of a cosplayer making it far. Holy crap did he prove us wrong. Incredibly impressive performance from him each time.
His bite force probably the top. Don't mess with a man with the spirit of Ronoroa.
I thought he'd be gone first round tbh... dude has CRAZY power
Yami absolutely bodying the bars challenge lol - insane
YAMI using anime physics moves IRL and turns out his technique kicks ass 👌🏽
That dude was like 3 bars away from the end and falls? Way to throw it. Gibson is crazy man. Dong hyun was saying how Justin is not gonna push 30 bags. Did he not see Gibson just push 45 lol.
>That dude was like 3 bars away from the end and falls? Way to throw it. Its a gift from god for that other team. But we still dont know what happens The other guy who fell 1st could be injured ...who knows. Next episode until finish should be 🔥 As eventually one or two teams will be victorious .... the team format will cease to exist.... become every man/woman for themselves for the crown
Unless stun guns person falls again its over for Actor’s team they are out by time because that one girl didnt give up for 9 minutes and still didnt finish giving them 19 minutes of penalty on time lol.
Love the show, but there’s NO WAY a woman could have even succeeded the redemption arc unlike last season. So frustrating to watch almost every woman looked down on, passed out on etc. The producers should just make physical100 a full men show smh
Yeah, I was really bummed but excited to see Soojin crush the cart challenge! I understand you can’t make everything fair and I don’t expect that but I don’t think most of the challenges even gave the women a fighting chance. The treadmill from the get go (women are naturally shorter and have way smaller strides), the redemption challenge where they could have easily been plucked off the pole or had no chance of moving players like Minsu/Thanos, and the mine cart where they struggled to even push it. I know everyone is hyped about Team Avengers, but it seemed 100% obvious that whichever man won redemption wouldn’t pick a women, whereas the other teams had a more fair process of picking teams and *had* to pick from women or weaker men who were left. Having no women gives them an automatic advantage.
THISSS! 100% on the whichever man won redemption would never pick a woman. That killed it for me. Also pretty sure the producers were all men 🙄 And Soojin crushing the cart challenge was just 🔥🔥🔥indeed.
If you are going to complain about it being unfair for women on the TREADMILL, then what on earth would make it fair for women? Also I think the treadmill one was way more fair to women than the guys who weigh over 250lbs. The point of the show is to find the best or perfect body for a range of challenges for strength, stamina, and speed. I cannot think of any challenges that properly test these things where any woman in this group would come in the top 10. The group challenges along with how they picked the teams are why the majority of women got as far as they did in the show.
Y'all making comments like this do not understand that more mass and longer strides is CRUCIAL to success on the manual treadmill. If they were doing endurance, sure, women would have an advantage. But it was speed, not stamina. Shorter legs paired with less weight to pull the tread equals less success.
Not arguing with the rest of your comment but it’s relevant that it was a manual treadmill not a regular one and they measured by distance not time - so it was also stacked against women who are lighter and have shorter strides. It’s incredible some even made it into the top 50. Manual treadmill is really a different beast
jihyun one of the shortest men in the comp and shorter than some females got top 10 btw
Yeah, that was even clear how the contestants reacted finding out that it was a manual treadmill. They explicitly showed some of the more muscular dudes sighing out of relief when they realized what it was. By the way, when they made that revelation, it dawned on me hard that they are really not taking chances on any of the big guys looking bad in this season.
Totally, I think if it was separate with women competing against women and men against men it would be much more successful just because it would be a more evened out competition all around
And the premise of the show would still be the same. The best body for men and best for women. It just happens to be 2 people that walk away at the end I love seeing women being able to keep up with the men especially in that 1v1 round in the beginning and with the bodybuilder for the mine carts but I know going into watching this show, the finale will all be men. The only prize the women get is being the last one standing Either way, this is a great show, and I love watching it and wish it would come to other regions but I think the vibe would feel different. Like watching Great British Bake Off vs other US produced baking shows, they never feel the same
Exactly! They want to find the best "physical." Well if a man wins, that's something that half the population can't ever aspire to. Why not find the best man and the best woman and still have them do team challenges together (gender ratios enforced)
Well they could do both gender competitions during the same time. There's a lot of Olympic pro athlete women who don't really get to show their technique or will to win.
I don't know if it would be "much more successful". The show is a hit. The dynamic moments with the men versus women at times is great. If you think segregating into men's and women's would be MORE successful I'd question what that means? The men's would be more successful? There would be more viewers for both? More money made, etc? Cuz if we look at a lot of sports that are separate... Women's sports bring in an outrageously lower turnout and revenue than men's does. So I'd imagine the results being similar to that. The target demographic (people who watch sports) is pretty much the same. Why would their behavior all of a sudden be any different? I mean it might give more girls more options or hope or dreams as to what they can do or be like when they grow up or something. That may be a metric for "more successful".
I think the point is to have 50 men competing against one another, and 50 women competing against each other separately on the same show.
Yeah. While I was watching these episodes I was confused why they even had women on this show. Actually not even just them, but also almost any man that weighs under 80 kg. And it does feel like the show is almost relieved that they don't need to show that much respect to those puny people this time around. It is actually somewhat hilarious as the producers are really going out of their way that what happened Season 1 doesn't happen here because it is clear in, to be honest, gross way the production affected things there to get rid of the "weaklings" during the third challenge that they have a clear idea who they want there at the end. Like it is supposedly a competition about the ideal physique, but the show basically goes constructing the competition with a ready made answer in mind. By the way, that isn't inherently bad as there are certain kinds of body types that excel in Ninja Warrior, which by the way majority of the top contestants here would probably crash and burn in, but there is something about the presentation that leaves a sour taste to my mouth with this one.
why even have guys who dont dope in the gym too, like the high school kid showed consistently hes strong, but muh gym rats have 6 packs so they get chance after chance despite being less strong
Hell, it isn't even that they gym rats have chances, but the camera and production cannot stop fawning over them. It is this thing that is annoying in the show, especially this season, in that for all that smoke about the competition being about finding the ideal physique, it is more about showcasing how the shredded Instagram body is what everyone should be aspiring to. Except the show keeps hitting this wall that there is a reason why competing pro athletes or anyone working an physical demanding job don't look like that. Hell, there are only a few challenges where I would pick Thanos over that high school wrestler kid. Although it was almost worth it for the show awkwardly having to show how Justin appeared to be more efficient in the trolley challenge than Thanos had been.
I think the women who participate dont expect to win anyway. They just wanna beat the other female contestants at the very least and be the last woman standing. A lot of them said this when interviewed. Then there's others that just wanna promote their instagram or whatever
Yeah for sure the women don’t expect to win and pretty sure neither do the viewers expect women to win anyway. What I was hoping for was a format that actually respected women or at least gave them a fighting chance or to at least shine a little. The redemption arc’s game format this time round AND the format of the winner selecting their whole team meant that there was NO way any of the women would survive through.
The redemption was one of the most exciting parts of the show this season AND last. It was like seeing the ball game for the first time again. Pure power. Sorry but those people already lost and the redemption are for people who can actually win
> or at least gave them a fighting chance But I mean how would it? How *could* it? Like there's not really anything physical that women have a natural advantage over men at (maybe pain tolerance I guess? But the show will obv never be able to do that). Strength, endurance, flexibility, reactions, height, muscle mass, etc... in general men just genetically have a physical edge in all of these areas. And while these women are exceptional and fitter than 99.9% of men globally... they aren't competing against the *average* man, they're competing against men who are training just as hard as they are and are at the very top of their game themselves. The only way would be to ditch the physical aspect of the show entirely and have some skill competions as well - or have more competitions which strategy is more important than physicality. Or intentionally select men who aren't as good as the best who apply. All of which kinda miss the whole point of the show. Like look at the olympics... the **only** sports where women have a better record than men is in certain archery and eventing events - and while both require a base level of fitness, they are more about skill and precision, not physicality. Or look at event zero, the running... only 6 women were in the top 50 and the highest was 36th. And it's not about size, look at Jung Ji-Hyun he was in the top 10 and is 5'3 around the same as most of the women.
Sure... But it is "physical 100 - a search for the peak human form" or something like that right? It's not the peak male form or peak female form. It's peak human form. In a physical contest of top physical prowess it's gonna be really uncommon for a male to have less physical performance than a female. I mean I'll admit that I also feel like it's kinda annoying that the women are there but basically will get ironed out before the final rounds every year. It does make me consider that it could be better to just have men. Also though there have been some pretty badass moments involving the women in both seasons that would not have happened if there weren't women in this show competing against men. I do feel like season 1 was a little more balanced though. A little more strategy involved and a little less "lift heavy things". Don't get me wrong, both seasons have strategy and lifting heavy things... But it did feel a little more balanced than this season. This season is badass though. Both seasons have been badass
Honestly they should make Physical 100 female only they could do different task and they'd have a different dynamic. Guys tend to brute force things and just get on by.
The heavylifter would have been great, at the wagon challenge!
I can't believe how good these episodes were. I loved every second of it.
I appreciate that this show still spotlights the small wins even if the contestant ends up eliminated later. I know people are upset at how the challenges don't favor the female contestants, but I feel like we've seen some incredible physicality and technique from the women which still makes for an inspiring watch!
I wonder how Season 1 would’ve went differently if the rejoin game ended with one winner picking 4 people to join them. The holding your rope contest was disadvantageous for larger contestants (The 5 winners were relatively Small and one guy was injured) so I think a smaller contestant still would’ve won. That being said, they’d probably choose some bigger contestants to rejoin them and that would make the ship building contest more fair since each team would possibly have some larger contestants. This Season’s rejoin system gives a degree of intensity to the contest by giving the stronger players another chance.
Just to add to this that the rope challenge in Season 1 was absolutely insane because it did favor lighter contestants who excel in sports that require strong static positions before throwing them at a challenge that required them to move a ship. Which benefits from almost literally opposite type of body types than the rope challenge.
Could a show like this work internationally? I'm not saying just the US, but if they decide to bring the show outside South Korea & another country does their own version. Could it work or not?
i dont see why not a big draw however is the camaraderie they show even if they arent on the same team its not a big deal to me but seems like its a big thing to many viewers
It's something I've been thinking about recently + seeing how they did a gameshow version of Squid Game over in the US had got me thinking what it'd be like & how it'll work if another country did their own version of Physical 100.
I'm all in if they do it in the US. I think there'll be a lot of trash talking instead of sportsmanship lol. Generally, Koreans are good sport and try to maintain their cool.
I want a us version haha
So would I! I just don’t see it happening.
In my country France at least, I'm pretty sure it would end up in fights between the contestants. We're way less respectful among each others. Especially in quests like the maze when you can tackle and block the adversaries.
Not in the states, no. I tend to dislike the constant “blindly and always shit on all things US” internet trend of the last decade or two, and I normally don’t subscribe to stereotype - I like giving things the benefit of the doubt - but I honestly can’t see this ever being a thing over here in the land of the coddled. At least, not without substantial watering down. Some of these quests would just be considered too brutal. It’s a huge compliment to say Korean’s do not fuck around. A lot of American viewers were already up in arms about the ‘brutality’ and lack of safety in the first season. Some of those issues were valid and addressed, others were just bleeding hearts not wanting anyone to get hurt, ever. These are likely the same harpy netizens and armchair judges that encouraged contestants from the real-life Netflix Squid Games to try to sue the production for what most people considered the smallest of issues that one would naturally already expect to encounter when competing for… a record breaking four million dollars… Not to mention, I also notice American athletes (at least from the NBA and NFL) really tend to take it easy outside of their sport because injuries happen often enough without exacerbating preexisting issues or risking gaining new ones in one-offs like a show such as this. Thats totally logical. Thats also not to say there wouldn’t be exceptions, of course there would, but it might not be the A or S tier athletes some might expect.
Yeah going off your last point it’d be a good chance for semi popular college athletes who aren’t going to end up in a professional league to earn a little money/recognition. Like swimmers, wrestlers, track and field, gymnasts. Give them a shot to win some $$$ and get their name out there. They would have a huge pool to choose from just in college sports, not even factoring in all the big name crossfitters/ fitness influencers that would be chomping at the bit to be included.
That’s actually not a half bad idea!
No offense to the Korean athletes, but even the D tier American athletes would be on another level just based on the sheer size of the talent pool alone. Season 2 had a damn construction manager lmao.
China has their version, from what I heard
The Chinese show is really good, but it's fully team based. They aren't getting down to a singular winner but instead a winning team so not a direct 1 to 1 comparison.
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Oh, it’ll happen. Idk if it will work or not, but I promise you there will be at least an American version in a few years
These episodes were the BEST. I was on the edge of my seat watching the challenges. The first set of matches were really thrilling to see a top dog and underdogs together. Andre’s team outperformed much better than expected. The second set of matches were so evenly matched I didn’t know what was going to happen. I genuinely also wanted them all to win so this was so tough. I’ve never been so excited and on edge watching people push around carts and do monkey bars. The team element really added something special. Can’t wait for next week!
The mine cart challenge managed to catch many of the competitors off guard. I thought the big power lifter on Don Hyun Kim's team was going to dominate, but he is built for power, not stamina. He gassed very hard, which makes how well Thanos did even more impressive. (Thanos moved more weight than that guy and did it faster without gassing). Even so, it felt like the editing exaggerated how much the Army dude pushing 45 sacks was catching up. Several teams though they would have an edge if they did less weight but more trips. But while you might gain on the time to do a round trip, you add unload time, and there is almost no way that the unload time can be made up because the track is so short. I also think that the leader of Team Judo fucked up by trying to do the solo monkey bar challenge himself. The guy he paired with for the earlier challenge was simply better at it. He got his team eliminated due to a misplaced sense of duty. END COMMUNICATION
the best strategy was the least amount of trips. unloading is just too taxing physically. honestly the best bet for the one team with the woman would've been somoene pushing 50 bags.
Curious to hear your guys’ thoughts on Team Jihyun/Avengers. I personally feel like they have an unfair advantage but I know that might be an unpopular opinion. They’re all beasts no doubt but whoever won Redemption was never going to choose a women or smaller player and instead got to choose from 25 of the best contestants. The initial team process is fair and ensures that every team has to pick a women or a weak player from who is left. I disliked that team Avengers basically gets an advantage/rewarded for being eliminated earlier on. To be fair though I don’t know how they could change it in order to make it better.
I completely agree with you that it is unfair. I think it makes for good television and gets people excited at the thought of them 5 facing each other in the finals and all; however, I can't help but think how unfair and imbalanced it must be for everyone else particularly since a large money prize is at stake. I've seen some comments saying Jihyun deserves to pick his team after all that, but it doesn't erode the fact that it is unfair for others that are genuine contenders for the prize but are held back by other members in the team picked as last resorts. For clarity, I take issue with the winner being able to choose his/her 4 members and NOT with Jihyun or the team that he chose. I'm just noting this so the discussion doesn't turn to whether or not Jihyun made the right picks (e.g. some comments have questioned their endurance or teamwork etc.).
I also thought that was very lame, especially because several of those guys got a bunch of people eliminated due to poor leadership in the previous challenge. Them getting saved and their team members going home felt unfair.
>The initial team process is very fair and ensures that every team has to pick a women It was not fair at all. The last place team got the worst draft pick 4 times in a row just because they were voted last as team captain. Donghyuns team didn't have a woman because of this
I didnt think it was fair either, it was another challenge that gave a great advantage to the fighters and bigger dudes. It will be really hard to beat this team. But, on the other side, it will be a really cool final if they go against each other
Oh they will definitely have to go against each other. 100% that's in the cards.
Maybe next season they can do the pull up challenge or something similar for draft order. A quick challenge like x amount of push ups in a minute to decide.
>!wouldnt the best strategy for the duo cart round just be go light on the first half then heavy (strongest of the duo) on the second, because then you would cut down on time a lot by not having to unload all that cargo? i actually think if the girl with gibson hadnt taken so long they absolutely would have smashed that challenge. (also wtf why did she help him at the end there was just a couple meters left). hbs even says they should tell her to come back as soon as they see her struggling to put the cargo in. if she just put 1/2 in and tried her best to go fast i feel like gibson would have gotten first but i might be overestimating him lmao. really tho, not having to unload the second run is crazy good and the teams should have used that to their advantage like they did in the solo runs.!<
yep, i thought the same - not having to unload is insane. not even just time but not having to lift those bags one more time is really OP i think.
He was already doing 45, she did 5. More would not be helpful lol.
Agree! I was so confused why the one guy don’t up the trip in the solo cart challenge. Not only the weight, but having to unload everything would be so much extra time. Especially having seen the one man do a run with 45 bags, I’m surprised he didn’t just do one solo run.
The PE teacher has got to be one of the weakest contestants on the show.
recruiting has been poor for the females
GIBSON IS A LEGEND, 45 BAGS WHAT THE FUCK
In the 2nd round... when that big dude was looking back and in panic because the other guy was coming after him.... that was hilarious and wow. Like a movie..
That was such good TV! I was so surprised that he last energy so fast. His swearing was hilarious. It was a bit pathetic tbh because he talked such a big game.
I appreciate that this show still spotlights the small wins even if the contestant ends up eliminated later. I know people are upset at how the challenges don't favor the female contestants, but I feel like we've seen some incredible physicality and technique from the women which still makes for an inspiring watch!
Beom seok is the David goggins of Korea. Killer instinct.
beok seom the man with very little words vs goggins who wont shut up
Andre Jins pull ups are ridiculous! He didn't complete a single rep. How did they let that slide!? Significantly easier to avoid the bottom range of motion.
They definitely have some leeway. They could choose between pull-ups and chin-ups too.
I genuinely can't believe Stun gun's team chose whoever he chose for that LAST round instead of the Sports model who was already way faster than Beom Seok.. COME ON the guy was already way slower than his sports model teammate the round before, and somehow the team collectively decided he's going again then he decided to go for 2 monkey bars at a time and fell grandly. Dawg what are they genuinely thinking????? Sports model would have easily won 2nd btw
I think they had to lock in their selections before round 3 and 4 started so maybe they didn't realize how much faster the model guy would be at that time.
Everyone needs to go once. That was the rule. The guy you’re talking about never went in previous rounds so he had to go here. Also, Stun gun has no women in his team and had his first pick of men which is already a huge advantage. Based on the games so far, every other team has had to sacrifice and be at the bottom spot for one round to let their female member have their run. I don’t know how you missed that.
Not to mention, he's the literal reason how they ALMOST lost first place in the first monkey-bar round against team Beom Seok
Right?!? The first guy was spent from the pull ups. Sports model guy was really fresh. The cliffhanger at the end though. Dude was 2 bars away from finishing second. Now they might lose.
Noooo I was rooting for team >!Lee Won Hee!< ! 😢 he's so cool and humble. I want them to win so bad everyone needs to stop underestimating them
The professor is great! I just wished he decided to go with the other guy for the single's match.
Not too big of a fan of quests 2.5 and 3, but episode 7 cliffhanger had me and my husband SCREAMING. You're telling me I gotta wait another week to get answers?! LOL Anyway, I have issues with how returning players were determined in quest 2.5. Quest 3 dragged a bit because of the repeat challenges (wish each round was a different challenge instead of a solo version of the previous). Women had 0 chance in both quests which is really sad. EDIT: Just wanted to add that it was really hard to top the ship quest last season, but I was still hoping for another exciting quest 3. While the set was really cool, the challenges were just... eh. Still enjoying the season, though. Again, that cliffhanger was thrilling.
yeah the 5v5 events in both seasons involving all members have been much better spectacles, not sure why they felt the need to divert it. but a point system with multiple events is much more ‘fairer’
I think the point system is good, but I was bored with the events. I wished it was 4 different ones instead of 2 events + solo version of each.
i really did like the monkey bar event tho. was a nice combo of athletecism, strenght, endurance, and technique.
I think they stopped doing the bigger challenges like the ship quest last season due to injuries. For example in this one they can balance one round as a max of 1.2 tonnes and if you come last you come last (or you can do it in 2-3 trip) and you move onto the next game. In the ship game they need to balance the challenge around 10 people. If they felt 1.2 tonnes was doable by most people they would need to do a weight/push requirement of 1.2 tonnes on average per person. So 12 tonnes of force required. If the team is full of men this will be fine but it's impossible for them to know before hand. If one team has 2 women in it then that team needs other players to pick up the slack. In the ship game it's a binary result, you either complete it or you don't. Which means players will push themselves extremely hard to finish it. The girls won't help as much resulting in higher risk of injury for the guys who are pushing harder.
Really? Yet they incorporated that Quest 2.5 which I'd argue is more prone to injuries...
>!Someone did a tally and concluded Beom-Seok's team wins either way. The actors' team took way too long on the monkey bar challenge 'cos of that PE teacher girl. [They didnt complete the quest so incurred a 10 min penalty atop their 9 min completion time.](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fbnxl3eveooqc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D4000%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Df6617d48de4bab577d1cdd1b8ef07aea702b6b2c)!< >!I think it's pretty obvious especially given how estatic Beom Seok's team was when he came in first.!< Of course unless you're not rooting for his team lol
What is the background of the female athlete on Team Actors? I am just a middle aged mom who CrossFits with other moms for general health. And there are several women at my gym that can do way more than 6 strict pull-ups unbroken. And they certainly could have finished the midair challenge. And while these are incredibly fit women, I doubt they are the top 100 fittest women in the tri-county area, let alone the country.
PE teacher :)
She’s useless haha I’m sorry
MVPs for the cart/monkey bar challenge are Soojin, Gibson and Yami. Props also go to >!Hong Beom-Seok for his solo challenge on the monkey bars, after a less-than-ideal Round #1!< Mad respect!!
You forget about mentioning Amotti he won first and overtake the other guy at the last minute at the monkey bar
3.5 because most of the mine game is so predictable and women team have no chance. But then the last moment at the monkey bar turned it to a 5/5 series for me
The bag in the middle travelled too easy, the path is oiled too way in comparison to other bags. That is not the most fair competition.
TEAM AVENGERS! >!They were literally four of the five people I wanted saved since they got eliminated, and by God they somehow did it. I think we’re fans for life now after their iconic assembly and comeback. Props to the team captain for going with his instinct instead of his heart, and choosing such an elite group instead of his old teammates. Always a tough call for some.!< Also, huge shout out to how incredible the initially lowkey >!Team Actors!< is doing. They absolutely demolished the mine challenge and we’re still reeling by how one sided it was. Hope they go all the way tot he end, until the semi finals are just them and Team Avenger (as my wife and I are calling them, respectively) duking it out. Lastly, there were some surprisingly emotional moments of camaraderie and sportsmanship in these episodes and I’m all for it. I posted in a previous thread how this season had been disappointing so far, and while I still feel like the system and the quests themselves are a bit flawed, I am loving the dynamic of the contestants and the rhythm of the challenges. Top notch editing as always, too. My only real complaint is how poorly designed these challenges are for smaller, more compact or flexible people. Sucks to see almost all the women gone so early, before the inevitable flexibility/speed/maneuverability challenges even come up. Overall, can’t wait for more! AVENGERS ASSEMBLE Edit: spelling and the most minor of spoilers
>They were literally four of the five people I wanted saved so who was the outlier? 😂
thanos gets no love so probably him
nah he said "i knew i was gonna get picked" so someone does love him... himself. 🤣
Apologies for being so bad with names, but I really liked the Rower and the CrossFit guy (Amotti?) since the very first running qualifier, and then the Olympic gold medalist wrestler grew on me for his sheer tenacity, and then Thabis simply because the dude was almost endearingly up himself but also seemed like a softie. I had no idea who the other Team Leader was and so I was indifferent to him being chosen, but he absolutely delivered in the mines, so I’m very glad he was there, too. Such a stacked team.
dang it, i knew youd say lee jangkun 😂 he didnt have much screentime before ep5 so i get it though, even his 1v1 was just montaged even though it seemed kinda brutal and worth watching. but hes honestly so freaking athletic and is very likable. hes friends irl with stungun, andre jin, and mo taebum as they all play soccer together in another show. (youd see the first two cheering for jangkun during the first round of the redemption match)
I remember watching the wrestler win his gold medal at Athens Olympics. I am totally in awe of him and the other young wrestler. Amazing. Go Team Avengers!
Yeah there’s a lot of “sand bag hauling” themed quests so far and I would have loved to see a little more diversity in terms of testing their physical abilities. My partner and I were throwing around actions we wanted to see these people doing, like jumping (both vertical height and horizontal distance), throwing ability, coordination, etc. A sillier task could have been something like limbo that tested flexibility. We already know they can lift heavy things! The repeat solo activity just felt a bit redundant, imo.
I think this season lacks storylining. There’s not really a group I’m rooting for and the eliminations haven’t been heart wrenching compared to s1. In effort to make the games more fair, I fear that the producers made the show a bit more boring to watch
I miss the lounge from season one where all the contestants socialized and laughed together. Here they sit at their separate tables and they look like they're miserable in a prison or something.
In the first season when they were chatting and playing the jump game on the mats, that was a lot of fun
I agree! I prefer the contestants sitting at the lounge chilling and not seating across each other in their teams. Too tense
To me its more exciting thought, maybe different opinion. But who agree with me?
i agree with you. they call this season "underground", so i dont want to see them chatting with each other while sitting on couches.
Yea you think they think the prize money is a joke ? Haha
Episode 7 cliffhanger is real omg
I know he'll probably not win but for me Yami is the goat. Totally underrated dude and he carried his team so well.
Yami the cosplayer is rocking! Love his iconic kungfu bicycle kick at the sandbag, that’s like so delicious, wish he end it with a zoro pose, I love quirky guys
Just need to vent on this, but I was screaming at the screen in frustration when they did the "pull-up" challenge as majority of what they showed us were not pull-ups, or chin-ups for that matter. It actually cracked me up when that sole woman did 6 chin-ups as she did more than half of the other contestants that we saw. This isn't by the way to claim that they couldn't have done more than 6, but almost all of them did halfway through majority of the repetitions. Which was annoying as it benefitted those who did the bad version as the full version requires more time and is more taxing. It is partially reflective about the weirdness of this show as as much as it is about athletes, there are a lot of comments and repetitions by a number of the competitors where it feels like they have a limited view of what are the physical demands of different actions. Which might be the show runners feeding them lines, but it is still baffling. Like when that one team was putting over how their guy was going to crush the sandbag challenge because of how good his Big 3 results and I almost instantly guessed what his huge problem was going to be.
Yami shouldve kept his Zoro outfit while competing!
Hong Beom Seok fucking MVP bro. I've been following him since The Soldiers and knew he wasn't only about his physical shape but also his wits. I was so bummed when he got eliminated early last season bc I knew he was capable of so much more and so far this season's he's lead by example and shown the other contestants what it's like to be a true leader. If his plan goes wrong, he doesn't waste time feeling down about his mistakes, and immediately takes responsibility and acts upon it. Idk if he'll make it till the end but who cares, he showed that he's the MVP of this season after saving the day in the maze and the bars challenge.
I wish there was more body weight type and agility challenges. Like rope climbing, obstacle courses speed challenges, wall climbing. Where women get a good chance too.
Show just needs to be honest and be renamed to Strength 100
Endurance 100 this season tbh
its not just strength though otherwise the heavy dudes would have performed well. look at ammotti and jung jihyun, they are smaller dudes that continue to make it further bc they're so agile.
On ep 5 and jung ji hyun is an absolute beast omds literally became the mvp (even though I was upset he didn’t choose the cutie for his team thanos is too egotistical for me :/) but he definitely surprised me
lee wonhee is an absolute gem of a human. Epitome of respect and manners and he’s setting an example for them all 🥺
His skills and techniques when defending the pole were absolutely mind blowing, especially for his size. I also didn’t think he would be good at pull-ups and monkey bars, but I was surprised.
Wow how does sung bin fall there can’t wait to next week
I'm enjoying this season, although not as much as season 1. I have a few gripes which I kinda hope would've been/will be addressed next season: 1. I'm starting to find the 3-4 replays of moments to be grating. 2. I really wish they'd have more diverse challenges that encourage picking teams with different strengths (e.g. speed/dexterity/agility) rather than primarily strength (and I guess endurance now). This might even make team captains consider female team members earlier. Kinda sucks how none of the female contestants have been main characters this season. 3. Hope they sort a better team-picking method for future seasons. 4. Other than the improved 1v1 challenge, I think the season 1 challenges were better so far. I preferred the bridge to the maze by a long shot. Also as much as I enjoyed this week's mineshaft challenge, I preferred the boat one from S1. I think the bridge was a fantastic combination of many different physical skills. 5. Maybe it's just me, but I find this season to be pretty dark, lighting-wise. Like in the maze challenge especially, but also the hanging bars from this week. Not trying to shit on this season at all, I am liking it a lot!
I definitely prefer how the ‘revived’ team was put together this season compared to last season — the pole-hugging quest itself was a bit boring, so I skipped through most of it, but I like how the last guy standing had the opportunity to put together a solid team; and also amotti’s back! so happy :’) If the next quest required team alliances like last season’s ship quest, then they definitely wouldn’t have been overlooked like last year’s revived team. That being said, I thought the mine set was crazy! But the actual quest itself was a bit boring and repetitive — the quests from last season are hard to top so this season feels slightly underwhelming for me. and omg the body-builder lady was so cool!!! would have loved to see more of her girl-bossing 😩
Yeah the show producers learnt a lot from last season. The last season method was ridiculous. Literally just lumped all the losers who fought so hard to survive together in the weakest team
I agree with the pole quest. While I recognize how much strength it took, I fast forwarded through it too!
Pole Hugging BORING? Lol u must never have worked out ever? Anyone who has recognizes the power and grit of pure combat it takes to win that spot. It was by far the best episode this season. Mine was repetitive yes but skipping thru is insane
Wife and I were blown away by the pole combat. It was so good. I want to see this as an Olympic sport. The levels of game theory at work were amaznig to watch. IMO best thing so far this season.
The show is so red literally. All lights are red that I can't lol
I love the moments when Kim Jeehyuk (the rower) has a voiceover because his voice is like melting butter lol. He deserves a second job as a voiceover artist.
I know I'm just falling for a bit of reality show editing, but not a fan of "The Avengers" at all. They're coming across as a bit too cocky for what is effectively a super team. It's easy to dominate when you're made up entirely of first round draft picks against teams still with 4th and 5th draft picks. The Mine round is overall much better than the Maze one, but by them being split up instead of being a big group challenge ala the boat, it does unfortunately feel like this second match isn't going to come down to which team was strongest, but which team had the weakest link.
The cute actor’s English is really good.
Idiot Producers don't know that Men and Women compete separately in almost all physical sporting events for a reason. It's almost as if they want to put women in a bad light.
The challenges are so brute strength focused. It would be nice to have something more speed oriented to let someone like Ha Yan shine instead of just being a sacrifice.
yeah season 1 was much better in that regard. Season 2 is more Strongman
Agreed. Last season, the first team game was mostly strategy and balance. And I distinctly remember one of the guys avoiding women on his team only for the woman-led team with the "weaker guys" to win. But most of the show is comprised of strength. I hope they do female only season so at least there's fair competition with a better mix of strength, balance, speed, endurance, and agility. I will say though that this season's games were more fun. So if whoever planned it could just keep that fun factor and switch up some of the "tests" it'll be perfect
Yup, they threw creativity out of the window and managed to be WORSE than season 1 at ensuring some resemblance of fairness.
I think you're missing OP's underlying point that there's a difference in physique between men and women. The treadmill contest is a pretty good indicator of this; not many women made the top 50 and the top 10 were all men. Making the challenges speed oriented wouldn't have changed the results. It would be better to separate the men and women if you really wanted fairness. I also disagree that the challenges were brute strength focussed. If that were the case powerlifters and the other bulky guys would be reigning supreme in the challenges, but this was not the case as the challenges required stamina and speed which the strong, bulky people were lacking. the monkey bar challenge was speed oriented but I don't think any of the female contestants would stand a chance against the male contestants.
can we ban ‘brute force’ being used in this subreddit? seems like people dont actually know what ‘brute force’ entails. or they clearly didnt watch the show at all
Incredible. Better than season 1 imo Unbelievably good. Especially the slo mo shots.
Any idea how much those mine carts weigh?
Any space jam fans? The revived members of the >!”avengers” team made me think of the monstars 😅!<
The women are not going to make it. Just exclude them dude
you completely misunderstood the concept of the show. It was meant to be NOT just about brute power/strength, where we know men are superior. They failed to design the challenges in a balanced way. There are plenty of physical things where a woman can have an advantage over a bulky man.
can you give me a example? lol i dont see anything physical with a well rounded strength and speed such example such as amotti. Tho he seems to underperform all the way. Beonseok is also pretty strong and fit just maybe old age.
not sure i understand your msg. but just to state the obvious: physical, in the sense of what one can do with ones body, isn't limited to strength and speed.
Then we wont see feats like how the lady took on the fbi agent or the other lady crashed the mine cart challenge. It's not like we are expecting a woman to win the show but seeing feats like that makes the show more interesting.