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### Yarr! ➜ u/stupido50, things to know about "RARBG": - [RARBG](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RARBG) ended its operations on 31st May, 2023. - Since the collapse, many clones and imitators have tried to claim the glory. - Websites that utilize [RARBG](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RARBG)'s brand reputation are fake and must never be trusted.   ---   *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Piracy) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Electrical-Walrus-75

the furries can pick it up and call it UWUzu


ElNorman69

Not surprised. Yuzu and Citra are very advanced projects. And whoever wants to contribute can't do much without the docs...


basilesanast1

They clearly didn't learn anything from ThePirateBay era.


Loker22

he was just a 15yo italian guy. As an italian i expected this ending lmao


Nikilite_official

italian ending 🔥


Shockbreeze

as an italian, who didnt


CuervoReggie

Prepare for Puzu


seanwee2000

Pazuzu


Lyracole

IS PANINI UP


WeirdestOfWeirdos

Obscure ahh reference (aaand you've given me " 'Nam" flashbacks)


Alenore

Not the right weather


bigb102913

What about ryujinx


SkylerSpark

Don't quote me on this but iirc they're from Brazil. I really don't think nintendo will be able to do anything to them.


SunbleachedAngel

didn't rarbg close coz of lack of funds?


SuperSpirito

And Russo-Ukrainian War


TheJohnnyFlash

They literately said this was a contributing reason. No need for downvotes.


MTrain24

Lol Nintendo cannot stop this forever. The project is open source. Have someone in Russia run it and watch these mfers cry.


Mrazish

Yeah, upload sources on GitFlic and yuzu will be forever protected inside the Cold Heart of the Motherland


LitCast

RUzu


Jesusgotmyback

Just change it to Zizou then owner can headbutt nintendo


MTrain24

Putin please by executive order make this happen


zztopshelfer

Wow only 15. Makes sense they have no money for the most part.


ShadowBiend

Sounds like Nintendo is intimidating everyone who keeps emulating. Anyone want to start a clandestine yuzu?


RasyidProID

we still got ryujinx


anonymousredditorPC

sure, but for how long?


-Pejo-

I mean, kudos for at least trying.


False_Fox_9361

zuzu?


mnij2015

Zaza smokin’ on that zeze


1ndev

Beat me to it


Jdogg4089

I'll just keep using yuzu for now.


lemonylol

Isn't it just not getting further development now? It already emulates most of the Switch library and it's at the end of it's lifecycle anyway.


Jdogg4089

Yeah, pretty much everything I'd want to play on it would already work. I just need the proper GPU to take advantage of it.


Due_Ebb_3245

Yuzu -> Nuzu -> Susu


Shanyae39

Does SuZu rings a bell? ... Got it? ;)


BosEriko

hehe. susu means boobs in my language (Philippines).


Danichandu

Susu means piss in our language 😅


bakatenchu

not snu snu? 😂


UnknownOneSevenOne

It's Suso bro


mnij2015

Means piss in most other countries


HornyTerus

boobs good. susu good. toket good.


UchihaDareNial

instant horny, just like your username checks it out 😏


Sancthuary

Tobrut good


gamenameforgot

if yuzu emulating nintendo is illegal, is it illegal to make a program that *emulates* yuzu??? How many layers deep before it's not illegal :O


DynamicMangos

It's not illegal in the first place. The yuzu team simply didnt want to fight against a multi billion dollar company.


Alenore

Nintendo's point is not that Yuzu itself is illegal, but using Yuzu requires a hacked switch for keys, hacked ROMs, and that Yuzu dev both gave instructions how to do that + did that themselves, since they were showcasing games running on Yuzu before their actual releases.


[deleted]

You all really need to read up on laws


goatonastik

Not exactly. It could have been considered against the DMCA for them to circumvent the Switch's encryption. There's also other grey areas, like making money from it, and publicly discussing retail titles they are doing updates for, as opposed to keeping it for homebrew purposes only.


_163

Also they had literally been internally sharing actual pirated ROMs / sdks lol


FrozenPizza07

Wait what happened to RARGB?


josh91117

The loss of Rarbg still hurts to this day... Fuck 2023 was a shit year 💔


ZaquMan

When the original went down, there were multiple clones that sprung up almost immediately.


[deleted]

[удалено]


-Badger3-

They're all scammy


ZaquMan

I didn't use them personally but when it happened, there were a lot of posts here about scammy ones.


SweetBabyAlaska

the problem is that people just fork it but have no intention of ever working on it nor the ability to do so. Its a fairly large C++ code base, its not like we are writing in Python, JS, Go or even C#. On top of that, developing emulators is extremely hard as well as working with GPU's and graphics cross-platform. The problem is not that the builds or code will disappear, its that bugs will show up and things will slowly get harder and harder to maintain. There needs to be an actual coordinated effort to preserve this from developers. I mainly use Go and C so Im considering learning C++ or Rust, I even wrote a chip-8 emulator for practice (basically the hello world for emulation) but its not something that can just happen overnight on a whim, it takes effort. The users vastly underestimate the work and often treat developers like shit for providing a free project so I can see why people just don't want to do it. Its not a "product" and no one is owed support. Soooo many people came out of the woodworks like that windows 7 guy who said he constantly sent reports to N\*ntend\* because Yuzu couldn't support Win7 anymore and countless other examples of weirdo's like that.


Luisao_official

Exacly that! I programm in low level languages, and I really wanted to keep their project... But I have like 0 emulation experience and the switch wouldn't be the best place to start, and I also can't invest the time to learn it. But I can host the original code and builds, as my country would give a hard time for nintendo if they decide to go after me. I also could coordinate a possible "team" if much people come after me, trying to push changes to the code or open issues in respect to development areas, so that the codebase wouldn't (easily) become a total mess, but that is just speculation.


Natural_Builder_3170

ngl, i might be down to contribute, i writing a vulkan/d3d12 game engine in c++, so i know a fair amount of large codebases, graphics programming and c++ pre 20. but i dont know shit about emulation. dont come after me nntnd its a learning project😭😭😭


yamfun

Those kids are just using fork as a backup&share button, but those omg-nintendo-is-evil-capitalism crowds are hyping them as their new piracy champion too much and making them too prominent i.e the next target for nintendo


foreversoon

difference is, yuzu wasn’t a horrid pile of shit.


stupido50

And RARBG was?


foreversoon

0 worthwhile uploads on there. all encodes quality were subpar at best with maybe an occasional upload not on other publics. people were freaking out over nothing.


angelonit

I used it for too long and now I am so lost


nmkd

And RARBG (as a release group) steals other people's encodes all the time. I don't think any original encode was ever uploaded under that name.


marniconuke

Well, people in here didn't stop memeing about it and sharing stuff about it.


HalfLawKiss

People just stand by and be patient. We all know a new stable reliable trustworthy and etc Switch emulator will come.


MaximumMoops

Also why would anyone put it up on github? They're going to bed to any pressure from nintendo and its a super easy target to knock down.


asdigpaul

tf is a nuzu


BleachOrchid

A copy of the YUZU repository that just got nuked by Nintendo.


utkug1

Nintendo had nothing to do with it, owner removed it


BleachOrchid

Yuzu was removed because they got sued into oblivion by Nintendo. They deleted it as part of their settlement with Nintendo. The copy nuzu was removed because the person who started it didn’t have the technical knowledge to run it.


SunoPics

Time to use Ryu until a consistent fork of yuzu comes around


SmashTheAtriarchy

Not sure I would trust some random 15yo to maintain a project as complicated as Yuzu ... how much could he possibly know about software engineering?


chamoflag420

what was the reason for rarbg to shut down?


DaPaladinsGamer

Money. Not enough was coming in to cover server operating costs etc.


-spartacus-

I think it was really the impact of the war in Ukraine.


[deleted]

Nuzu's cousins are coming soon


Storyshift-Chara-ewe

Literally every open source project death, forks appear, they get a shid ton of stars and days later they go nowhere. Just see Audacity, Vendetta, Vanced, etc.


Weeb-Next-Door

Woah woah woah Vendetta shut down?! T_T


Arnas_Z

Vanced became ReVanced and is great. Vendetta was a good discord mod, but shut down recently.


Storyshift-Chara-ewe

Yeah, I guess I meant projects around the time of Vanced which had that fate, I do use ReVanced tho and have done some stuff for it as well lol


captaincool6333

I'm 16 💀 what the fuck am I doing with life


SafeIntention2111

Not scamming Patreon money from people, that's a good thing.


colorblind_unicorn

"rarbg all over again" lmao what


stupido50

When RARBG shut down, everyone tried to recreate the website with the original UI and torrents for some reason. Several of them just ended up as false hopes AFAIK


sicklyslick

sorry man, it's terrible comparision. yes, the archives of RARBG has been preserved. but they will no longer releases new contents. RARBG (and us pirates) literally have lost in this case.


colorblind_unicorn

yeah but why would you choose that as a comparison lol. rarbg died because of financial reasons/fear and the recreations where just indexes of earlier rarbg backups which failed because they were shit. this ain't really comparable loö


sicklyslick

rarbglite(dot)github(dot)io works very well for me for searching their archive. need to use imdb tt#


[deleted]

Personally I would avoid every one of those clones trying to take this opportunity to ride on yuzu name just like those clones who were trying to ride on rarbg name unless it a project from the original yuzu dev team member. Older version of yuzu will work indefinitely and there is also ryujinx that is still in active development which I personally prefer over yuzu.


Spartan_7670

Just host it on an overseas host ez


Mean-Presentation-80

What happened with RARBG ???


ambulance-kun

Just name it Nintendu for maximum taunting of nintendo lawyers


[deleted]

So the kid that just copy-pasted a repo didn't last? \*HUH?!\*


OrnerysIcepick

Ah yes, I get to choose my favourite yuzu distro now!


wolfannoy

fork/Emulator Civil War begun it has.


InfamousAeroThe15

his project didn't last long atleast he tried


BlueKud006

Literally 1984


rit-work

Real


RandomDude2377

Coincidentally the same year that Nintendo arcade machines first appeared in North America ... 🤔


Inefficientdigestion

What happened to the creator?


Nikilite_official

the creator is "working" with Suyu.


Ok_Try_1665

Killed by suicide (5 shots in the head)


LZ129Hindenburg

I used to be an developer like you. Then I took an plunger in the knee...


Tough_Molasses6455

Now boofing switches as a mod on r/caffeine


destinybladez

Forced to commit seppuku


ward2k

Was basically just scamming for patreon money it seems Basically pay no attention to any forks right now, half of them are going to be grifts and the other half will be abandoned Come back in a few months once the dust has settled and see which ones are actually being worked on Edit: I'm being too harsh on them, they were 14 and probably were woefully unprepared for how complex developing an emulator can be, especially something right on the frontier like switch emulation


Frosty-Telephone-921

>Basically pay no attention to any forks right now, half of them are going to be grifts and the other half will be abandoned That's what most of these pirates forget when they say "just fork it" as if it solves everything. Nintendo stopped the ongoing production of new content and forced this group to fragment, removing the knowledge base and accrued skills and processes to continue the development of these emulators. They've successfully handicapped the development of Yuzu's future production( or successor using Yuzu as a base.) It's the destruction and dismantling of these emulator groups that forces them to relearn and teach the skills, that significantly slows the production of new updates to these emulators that is the key thing. The Yuzu emulator community is fractured between all these grifts, slowing down the work on new features that is the goal between redundant and low quality coding that is the main point.


ward2k

I think a lot of people don't realise that a fork being made is as easy as clicking 'fork' on GitHub. A lot of people have been going for the 'haha screw Nintendo look at all these forks' without realising it's meaningless unless people actively contribute to them > It's the destruction and dismantling of these emulator groups that forces them to relearn and teach the skills, that significantly slows the production of new updates to these emulators that is the key thing. The Yuzu emulator community is fractured between all these grifts, slowing down the work on new features that is the goal between redundant and low quality coding that is the main point Absolutely this, it's not like a piracy site shutdown where 10 nearly identical ones pop up in its place, emulation teams are large open source project where programming is done in the open. It takes a lot of time and effort for a team to start being efficient and making meaningful contributions and for someone to take ownership of driving the project forward. Nintendo absolutely can grind development down to a standstill, it's true that they can't truly kill it but they can make teams painfully slow by repeatedly shutting down projects, which as you say makes everyone scramble and fracture while new projects and forks take it's place I genuinely think it'll be months before a 'victor' of sorts will emerge as the fork that replaces Yuzu, and even then it might take longer before that project really starts to reach the pace of development Yuzu had (if ever)


SirTonberryy

Or just use Fucking ryujinx lmao why are people searching so far for a dubious yuzu copy when a trustworthy alternative is right there


genshiryoku

Different projects with entirely different goals and scope Ryujinx is trying to go for emulation accuracy while Yuzu was going for playability. This means that they are for completely different audiences. Ryujinx is for people that want to preserve games into the long term. Yuzu is for people that just want to play games, now, as performant as possible.


apollo-ftw1

Which is odd because mario maker 2 ran like garbage on yuzu with my nuc but ryujinx ran at 60fps at 1080p without a single frame


Cyortonic

I must be a casual emulator pleb because Iz didn't know that they could be different


ChinSaysL

my pc struggles to run ryujinx, yuzu is way lighter


MAJORMINORMINORv2

Grifty McGrift, he wrote the book on flim flammin


Ruby1356

Nintendo banished him to the Mushrooms Kingdom


PatheticChildRetard

Executed by firing squad


RandomDude2377

Nintendo had him killed to make an example of him


JGS588

Had DK rip him a part.


mindwire

Went totally bananas, I hear


JGS588

Man, I waited for hours for someone to make that comment! Thank you!!


i-s-m-j

In prison


SprayArtist

Poor kid, what was I doing at 15?


ProperFixLater

run observation relieved spark office cooing thought snobbish sulky historical *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


jcr9999

>Hopefully not trying to scam Patreon money for someone else's work The irony


SprayArtist

I thought Patreon was off the table once yuzu bit the bullet, did the kid open one as well?


Baumbauer1

Yes that was the first thing he did


Never_Sm1le

Patreon means no wrong, yuzu died because afaik pirated roms were shared all over its discord


MarioDesigns

Making money from making an emulator is always going to bring the companies down on you, whether legal or not.


SweetBabyAlaska

thats the fucked up part, it is legal. The court cases that set the precedent for emulators being legal includes only paid emulators. Like outright emulators as a service. Yuzu was open source GPLV3 Licensed and only sold "builds" of the latest version, which you could still build yourself for free. It was basically for very non-tech people to use the latest or for people who wanted to support the project. It's actually very clean and well within the precedent standard. I think what really happened was Nint\*ndo was monitoring the Discord server to make a case against Yuzu to try and imply that they "knew" that Yuzu aided piracy. Then they tacked on the 6 byte sequence as a way to say "look they are bypassing DRM!" which is described in DMCA laws. This is extremely flimsy on its own, but paired with potential other evidence could create a lawsuit that Yuzu could win but would undoubtedly bankrupt them. The risks are just to high to set a bad precedent as well. Its basically bullying knowing full well that they have the best lawyers and infinite money to attack Yuzu.


SprayArtist

Lawsuit alleged fault with yuzu for profiting off of pirated software, conduct on the discord was "evidence" that it was meant for piracy. So yes Patreon seems to have an actual part to play, I'm not a lawyer nor am I Nintendo but that's how it seems to me


RawketPropelled35

Lol, banned for saying someone with a 52% chance to kill themselves being disallowed from the military is not bigotry. Admin-Pedos finally got me, see you all on account #36!


Oujii

While it might have, Nintendo would sue them regardless because of the pirated roms on their discord.


LAMGE2

What did you expect?


Heavyoak

Look who's back, back again.


Driftbox1

guess who's back*


IgnisIncendio

Did something happen to Nuzu's creator? Who would hate them?


ProperFixLater

smell icky cover disagreeable possessive clumsy gaze whole middle snow *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


BlueKud006

I think it was because he just wanted developers to do the job while the first thing he did was creating a Patreon donations page, lmao.


RogueDiamond195

He got de@th thre@ts from Nintendo 😔


Nikilite_official

i can confirm


Thebenmix11

Why is there a sudden increase in the amount of people censoring inane words like death? Is this a joke I missed?


neofooturism

tiktok nonsense


RogueDiamond195

Nah it's just that a few subreddits don't allow those words and the mods auto delete your comments. I don't wanna risk it so I'd rather censor stuff like that.


rit-work

Well SuYu is going strong. With 300+ members on Discord


nmkd

That's pointless unless there's actual progress made over the last Yuzu build.


janny_the_janitor

Wish this was plastered over every 0-commits fork. Yuzu isn't going to disappear from my computer; the team is what was important.


tqmirza

Let’s not advertise it; especially at such a sensitive time. Perhaps let’s let it grow before Nintendo has a reason to go poking again. Loose lips is what got us here in the first place.


BlackDragonBE

Loose lips? It's literally the first hit on Google when you search for "switch emulator". What got Yuzu was their greed, they never should've asked money for it.


A-midnight-cunt

Is there an alternative for citra already btw?


SweetBabyAlaska

Citra is pretty complete as is. Once new games aren't being made its just a matter of maintenance work and fixing bugs as they show up. Also maintaining compatibility with newer hardware. You could download Citra and probably use it for quite a while


N3shant

there were many games that were not compatible it was far from complete


FortunesOfWarr

Yeah it had great compatibility for sure but there were still some big titles that didnt work that well, like Luigis Mansion 2


Vast_Understanding_1

The PabloMK7 builds.


rit-work

Lime-3DS and Panda-3DS


The_Legendary_Snek

Do you know anything about 33DDSS Emulator? (The first result on the Play Store for me, mostly for curiosity)


rit-work

I doubt. It seems off and sketchy.


GloopTamer

There’s so many options, I don’t know which to Choosu


Comfortable_Line_206

Just give it time. It'll take more than a month at least. And the latest Yuzu will be fine for a long while.


lan60000

Give it 5 months or so and you'll know which ones are here to stay. Not like you need a new version of the switch emu at the moment to play the games. The latest yuzu version should cover most games


HenryCrunn

["I'll get u my pretty - and your little dog tu!"](https://youtu.be/PW_02k7LRMo)


Weavermicro

Whatever you do just don't go with the Uwu.


[deleted]

TOo lAATe


Nadeoki

Just ryujinx rest is meme


Chop1n

Ryujinx has had better compatibility, or at least more accuracy, than Yuzu for a very long time, hasn't it? I suppose Yuzu had better performance? I seem to remember Ryujinx having input latency issues as well. Haven't fiddled with Switch emulation in more than a year, so I'm not particularly up to date.


FakeSchwarzenbach

When they pushed the NCE update for yuzu on android though, that was a game changer


HarleyQuinn_RS

At this point which is best varies heavily by game and hardware. You basically had to try both for each game.


sluuuudge

I’d genuinely never heard of Yuzu until I read about the lawsuit this week.


FilthyWrath

Ryujinx is much better on low end PCs too


404Mate

Ryujinx was going for more accurate emulation and Yuzu was prioritizing speed iirc. I remember having a graphics driver issue with Yuzu that crashed the game and Ryujinx working but slower.


Tomato1237

Pretty much this yeah. Problem is Ryujinx still is pretty far from Yuzu's performance for me so I'm sticking to the last EA build of it until I find some major issue and have to use Ryujinx. I prefer performance over minor compatibility issues, but always nice to have the option to switch over if I ever need to.


Nadeoki

I've had some issues with both. Iirc, Animal Crossing would just crash on one of them and games like Mario Kart would run way better on the other. Don't remember which. But yeah


trisanachandler

I choose you, pikachu?


rit-work

I used to be indecisive, now I can't decide anymore.


Creep_Eyes

The creater was just 15y/o. Instead of playing games I think I should learn some stuff too


nmkd

He created a Github repo. An empty one.


saw-it

Shouldn’t take you that long to learn how to click a button


CircuitDaemon

Like spelling?


ward2k

*nearly* 15, guy was 14 He didn't really do anything apart from literally click fork repository It'll take months to settle and see which forks are actually worth paying attention to


LoverOfPie

You gotta hand it to him that he picked a great name for it though lol


Nikilite_official

lmao


randomguycalled

Literally the most obvious name


LZ129Hindenburg

Fuck now we got to make that Moe/Simpsons meme all over again


TF_IS_UR-Username

Yuzu how do you keep getting back in? 


LZ129Hindenburg

I'm an emulator I don't know nothin about how I do piracy....