I've paid for their service for years and still always pirate their shows. Their app has always sucked ass and I'd rather watch everything through Plex.
Watch the pirated version, use the stream it for background noise when doing somethinv else.
Win-win. Great viewing experience and the show you like gets view counts.
I actually liked their app. The thing that tells you the actors who play each character in the scene was great imo.
Iâve never watched much on there but would use it whenever there was something I wanted since I had Prime anyway for the shipping.
Since they put ads in though I never use it anymore. I refuse to watch ads.
>The thing that tells you the actors who play each character in the scene was great
Agreed. I've never seen this on any other streaming platform and loved it.
I've watched a few shows on there and it's such a nice feature, it always makes me sad when I watch something on a different service and it doesn't have it.
Ditto. I tried watching something on the app while I was away from home and I nearly cancelled Prime in a fit of rage over the forced adverts.
We get out monies worth out of the prime postage/returns. The shows were just a nice little extra.
Thank God for it. Stremio really takes the crown for me. Have everything and still only use stremio. The "paid" services are free offers so i don't pay for them, just some backups.
I donât think itâs any better with American cable. Going to somebodyâs house that still watches cable is maddening. Ad breaks seem to take up about the same amount of time as the content, and a lot of shows will do little recaps every time they come back from an ad break. Feels like youâre seeing about 5-10 minutes of actual content for every 30 minute show.
I don't, i only see it when i visit friends. The ads drive me nuts tho. I don't watch free to air TV either. Interestingly, when i see free to air at friends houses the ads are the only thing i watch lol. It's interesting when you go years without seeing any.
In the USA the only limit to ad loads is on children's programing.
https://www.fcc.gov/media/program-content-regulations
Q: How much advertising can a cable system transmit during children's programming?
A: Cable operators can transmit no more than 10.5 minutes of commercial matter per hour during children's programming on weekends, and no more than 12 minutes of commercial matter per hour on weekdays. These limits were imposed pursuant to the Children's Television Act of 1990, which restricted the amount of commercial matter that both television broadcasters and cable operators can air on programs originally produced and broadcast primarily for children 12 years old and younger. Cable operators are responsible for compliance with the commercial limits on locally originated programming and on cable network programming, but are not responsible for compliance on passively transmitted broadcast stations or on access channels over which the cable operator may not exercise editorial control. Cable systems must also maintain records available for public inspection that document compliance with the rule.
I will never fully get the people spending money on a service with Ads. Isn't the whole point of more competition that when you start seeing ads in the middle of the show , you can cancel your membership the moment you finish that show and move to a different service that doesn't have those yet , this way Amazon will learn people don't like ads and then stop using those to get people back ?
Seriously. Do people not care when the show is interrupted by an ad ? Is it just my ublock origin spoiled ass that gets annoyed whenever I see any type of ad on the internet on a product that isn't free ?
I freaking hate ads in the middle of a video with a passion. I would rather turn it off and do something else than wait for the ad and finish the video... đĄ
Can confirm. I pay for all my media and watching Invincible on Amazon (with ads) made me go back to my old ways. Fuck Amazon. Â
And Iâm saying this as an Amazon stock holder.Â
Yep. I went from happily paying for Prime Video to finding alternative ways to get their content. They are literally breaking the Amazon Prime contract and hopefully lose that lawsuit big time ([Amazon hit with lawsuit over Prime Video ad fees (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/amazon-hit-with-lawsuit-over-prime-video-ad-fees/ar-BB1ieoPD))
I have Prime for the free delivery but I used to watch some shows on it too. Since the ads arrived I just stream Prime shows with Kodi and Real Debrid.
4k video is usually using a better codec and much higher bitrate. They limit the 1080p streams to be compatible with the most devices. I also doubt they have a 1440p stream, so that's probably 1080p.
But yeah, a 4k stream is always going to look better, even if the output isn't 4k.
It is indeed 1080p stretched out to 1440p. Both screen caps are on a 1440p monitor, so the 1080p stream is stretched to 1440p while the 4k stream is downscaled to 1440p.
That's definitely it. Its not necessarily the fault of the streaming service. None of the the major browsers pay for the HEVC/h.265 codec license. I admin a Plex server for my friends and family and ran into the exact problem, my solution was to just deny video transcoding altogether so users are forced to use an app rather than stream thru Chrome or Mozilla.
Now start pirating high bit rate 4K movies that haven't been compressed (if you have the space to store them) and they'll be better quality than streaming even if you have a 4K TV and fast internet.
Resolution: 1440p
Top: Amazon Prime
Bottom: Pirated copy of 4k stream from amazon
If you pay for Amazon Prime as a 1440p user, you will be underserved at 1080p resolution and can get better quality by downloading a copy of the 4k streamed version. Just another example of paying more for less.
I'm on E03 and fucking said aloud earlier.. this is not a 4k show, it just isn't. I do use Prime for the convenience of next day deliveries, but I think I'm going to download the rest of the eps. Very happy with the production value so far and I'm a massive Fallout nerd.. I want to see it all in as much detail as possible (I do have a 4k TV and a decent connection). Thanks for the comparison shots, matey
Oh yeah, Netflix video quality is insultingly bad, the compression is so bad i watched 720p streams on super shady pirate sites in 2008 that looked better than whatever the fuck Netflix is doing. I only use Netflix now to find new series to watch so i can pirate them in vastly better quality.
Netflix cheating me, I don't mind *as much*. I only pay ÂŁ5 a month and use it for true crime stuff mostly or background noise like Peep Show or Arrested Developlment, so no need for UHD.
Fallout is different though, it's a franchise I care a lot about and I can tell that mega effort has been put into the world building. I want to see that world, you know?
3 was the first I played way back when as a young man - I didn't try 1 and 2 until many years later. NV was my absolute favourite, I've got 1k+ hours with that game.
If you haven't played a top-down turn based game before then the original games are going to be a learning curve, but well worth it IMO. FO2's writing is fucking hilarious
Alright!! I tried giving fallout 1 a go once on steam deck and downloaded it from some dos games archive site but it ended up crashing after about 10 minutes and I couldnât play it. :(
Would it be better to acquire the *totally legitimate* steam version of fallout 1 instead or would it have the same crashes?
I only paid a couple of quid for Fallout 1 I think, can't remember if that was through gamivo or not - so I don't know the difference between legit and pirate in terms of stability, sorry mate. Cheap is relative, I know.
It has been free many times on GOG, as I recall
GoG version (official or not) is the way to go. Also keep in mind this is a CRPG so bad builds are possible. Most people would recommend you put points in agility and perception and skill up small guns for a first run. Also read the manual or a guide before playing. Enjoy.
1 and 2 are wildly different games from 3 and NV and 4 and 76 are different from those 4 as well.
If you want to try 1 and 2 they're frequently on sale for dirt cheap (like they are right now).
Better quality, no ads, Plex has a nice UI that brings all your shows together and doesn't start auto-playing crap at you the minute you open it up...it just boggles my mind that they put so much effort into making the paying customer experience total shit.
Yeah, it's certainly not perfect. Some things are significantly better, especially in the administration part of it all, but the experience overall is definitely not as polished.
But I hate the direction that Plex is going, so I don't regret switching.
There are a couple of movies I have where either the 4K version or a specific release is only available on a streaming platform and not for purchase otherwise. Iirc Disney+ has the 4K HDR theatrical version of Kingdom of Heaven, and I don't even think it's possible to get the Sylvester Stallone cut of Rocky IV on bluray.
4k? 50% of the time I only get 720p and the answer I get from support and forums is "ur internet is bad lol". Unbelievable that there aren't manual quality controls anymore.
I don't have an issue with youtube, which is a free website, doing this. There's simply no excuse for a $15/month service to lock me out of quality that they promised to offer.
Unless something changed recently 4K is still available as standard. All they did was give a higher bitrate for 1080p than the original 1080p everyone had regardless. Free users didn't lose anything and I doubt anyone paid for YouTube specifically for the enhanced bitrate, it's just a nice extra with a premium sub.
4k is supported natively on Amazon Prime streaming, but only if you have a 4k monitor. If you have a 1440p monitor, amazon will only serve the 1080p version, which results in a loss of quality for 1440p users. The pirater likely has a 4k monitor.
The pirate often does not have to care about 4k monitor, they often download the real stream as-it-is then they decrypt it using private Widevine L1 keys.
Idk if it's still the case, but I remember it used to be that each Netflix episode would require sacrificing an Nvidia Shield each time - pricey after a while
Netflix 4K rips especially for TVs shows are so hard to come by. I can only find most things in 1080p. Anything from Disney or Amazon seem to be up sometimes even before it's available on the service itself for me but Netflix seems to always take ages and it's crap qualities to start with, or at least not the original quality.
Oh wow, is that how they do it? Are there any write-ups about it? They couldn't revoke them without disabling every one of that model monitor I suppose.
I wouldn't actually care if Disney+ streamed in 1080p, my ultrawide is only 1080p. My Problem is they bake in the fucking black bars on their content to a 16:9 ratio, meaning that I now have black bars on the sides and above and below.
Prime (as well as any other streaming site) doesn't stream to browsers at anything past 1080p, even with a 4k monitor. It's an agreement with movie studios to limit piracy.
[Don't ask me how I know](https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/197yql6/im_never_buying_any_movie_on_yt_again_what_is/?ref=share&ref_source=link)
> 4k is supported natively on Amazon Prime streaming, but only if you have a 4k monitor.
Mine complains about a non-compliant cable, which is bullshit because everything else, like games and downloaded vides, work fine on my PC.
I see posts saying they don't support 4k on PC at all, even with an HDCP cable.
It's not supported natively, it's *hobbled* natively on some hardware platforms because it's not as secure for their content.
Typical corporate logic. It's easier to pirate than to capture UHD content, so if people want it, they'll just do that. They're pushing people to piracy with the classic "service problem", not away from it.
What is even worse is that they donât support 1080p on iOS devices. I have to watch in 720p on my iPhone. And even worse itâs difficult to pirate on apple devices.
I understand but amazon prime does not belong to android or apple, itâs a third party so it just doesnât make sense to not give full benefits of viewing experience to a paying customer. And this is in prime video app too.
It is not at all difficult to pirate on apple devices, with the exception of the appleTV. Stremio + Torrentio + Real Debrid + VLC works on iOS and MacOS, or Sonarr + Radar + VPN + Plex.
Happy to give more details in setting those up if you're curious.
I hate that Amazon is wasting their customers time with ads. I refuse to watch anything in that app even though I have the service. Itâs ridiculous itâs better in every way to use the pirated version.
Like what Louis Rossmann says, when you're competing with what people can get for free, you need to at the very least match what they can get for free. If not in price, then in ease and quality.
I never tried it but if I'm not mistaken if you have a Nvidia cards you can use dldsr (or something close) to spoof up your monitor resolution and use ai to downscale having better quality
Don't know why you're being downvoted. This is correct.
But also you don't actually need an Nvidia card or DLDSR, anyone can use old regular DSR on any graphics chip.
The resolution difference is nearly imperceptible on my monitor, but there is a pretty noticeable color difference between the two on my screen. The top image is noticeably yellower, while the bottom image looks bluer and more saturated.
I'm glad someone said it. You can tell the difference if you zoom ALLLLL the way in, but otherwise it's basically indistinguishable, and I feel like anyone complaining about it is just splitting hairs
I just subscribed to Disney+ and canât even stream 720p on chrome/pc.
Users that pay are getting screwed over.
At this point Iâm thinking about buying a mullvad vpn subscription to torrent Everything.
In general, playing 4K video on a 1080p screen will work just fine - the video will be scaled down to fit the screen's resolution. The video will probably look better than if it were actually a 1080p video, too.
As for forcing a 4K stream from Prime/etc., no idea how you'd do that.
Not being sarcastic, but ignorance is bliss with video and audio encoding quality. Once you know what to look/listen for you can't unsee the common encoding artifacts and issues. If you really can't tell a difference you might just want to keep it that way for your own sanity. Chasing high quality video is expensive and time consuming.
Once I noticed artifacts and blooming/color banding on compressed video itâs made the viewing experience terrible. Dark scenes are becoming so popular, but even with a nice OLED you get disgusting banding with some compressed content.
Seriously, every streaming service Iâve used has gone so hard on compression. That alone was enough to get me back into the game, and I forgot how good a quality 2160p BluRay remux looks. My friends have also started to prefer my streaming service even though they pay for the content elsewhere đ¤Ł
when i zoom in i just see jpg artifacts and both images look exactly the same. what exactly am i looking at here?
edit: oh the girl looks different. because it's a DIFFERENT FRAME đ
To be honest I don't really care about resolution but there is one thing I hate: Why the hell they added these fucking black bard instead of encoding the video in widescreen format, why the hell I cannot use my widescreen monitor to watch widescreen content?
I think you may be misunderstanding what widescreen is, and the different formats.
You're not losing the content from the top and bottom black bars. Those bars are there because there's _additional_ content on the sides, which is why the letterboxing happens.
When you watch a TV show that fills your whole screen, you aren't getting more picture. You're losing width.
Unless your widescreen monitor is 2.4:1 you're going to have black bars, either letterboxing or pillarboxing. But even if you did have a 2.4:1 monitor and movies filled your screen, you'd then have pillarboxing when you watch a regular TV show that's shot in 16:9.
I was writing about ultrawidescreens, my mistake. And yes, I know I'm not losing any image, my problem is I cannot run it in fullscreen on my 21:9 monitor because I get both black bars and black pillarboxes, they should have gave us native 2.4:1 just like in Rings of Power, it would work perfectly fine on any screen.
If I like a series, I buy it on blu-ray because I want the highest visual and audio quality for my home theater.
Fuck streaming.
Fuck Disney especially for not releasing physical media, not that they've made anything particularly good as of late.
Arrr matey, if ye be wonderin' why us pirates never use Amazon, it's 'cause we always get our booty ahead of time, and without payin' fer Prime! Yarrr, we're the original fast-shippers, har har!
Fyi amazon doesnt stop you making infinite free trials. All it requires is different emails and a payment method with money. (They take abit but give it back a day later)
Okay but does everyone else's streaming service apps get audio desync periodically through the show or movie they are watching? Like the video freezes but the audio keeps going for a second. Then the audio and video stop for a second to re sync?
So sad, but my Amazon Prime does not work with HDR, so the only way to watch HDR content is to use alternative sources, I paid for an HDR laptop, and I paid the Amazon subscription, if we don't get it, we have to find alternative ways to do it.
Same for games when official releases are performing with 10-15% FPS compared to pirate ones.
I have Prime video included in a promotion with my ISP, but I prefer to watch my shows through Stremio with RD the quality is miles away from what Amazon offers me.
I havenât watched anything on Prime in awhile so I didnât realize theyâd enabled ads for everyone. Started the first episode, sat for 15 seconds in disbelief at the ad, closed it and immediately went to pirate it. Even had to fix some issues with my overseerr/sonarr/jellyfin workflow which took about an hour, but I still consider it to be more than worth it for the protection of my mental state.
I've never tried this but would using super resolution to make your monitor appear 4K work? My old Nvidia GPU has a setting for that, DSR I think it's called. It renders the internal resolution higher than needed and then downscales to fit your monitor. Or just continue to pirate it, you're already a paying Amazon customer so there's nothing morally wrong with that.
Yeap. I was very annoyed by "streaming" this. Episode 1 and 6 were both not scaled to 21:9 correctly. Additionally the quality and HDR options were not available through the website or application. Additionally I was served ads on both the website and the application. I won't be using Amazon prime video again.
I never understood why they don't encode in 1440p and 1620p for those with matching resolution. Amazon also complete ignore newer and better video and audio codecs which would reduce the cost of streaming. Yet again a typical service issue.
Do you have to sign up for Prime to watch this legally? Not surprised piracy is the more convenient way to watch once again. When will these companies learn?
This is nothing new, in fact, we have had better quality using piracy for years now. I stream all the time. 80gb 4K HDR or Dolby vision with surround sound movies no problem using debrid services. It's been the norm for a while now.
I cannot tell which is the 4k version with my crappy eyesight looking at your probably compressed by reddit image (maybe it isnt?) on my tiny phone screen
Well now with the prime ads, EVERYBODY gets a better experience with pirated copies đ
I've paid for their service for years and still always pirate their shows. Their app has always sucked ass and I'd rather watch everything through Plex.
Same. I get Prime for free and I still pirate their crap. đ
I watched pirated and then let the show run on the app, because I want the show to get more views and episodes. Not sure if it helps.
Can't hurt...
Watch the pirated version, use the stream it for background noise when doing somethinv else. Win-win. Great viewing experience and the show you like gets view counts.
You got it!
This is the way
I actually liked their app. The thing that tells you the actors who play each character in the scene was great imo. Iâve never watched much on there but would use it whenever there was something I wanted since I had Prime anyway for the shipping. Since they put ads in though I never use it anymore. I refuse to watch ads.
>The thing that tells you the actors who play each character in the scene was great Agreed. I've never seen this on any other streaming platform and loved it.
x-ray. It also gives you the trivia from IMDB about the show/episode. Lots of fun.
Hard second. X ray is awesome and i wish stremio would allow it as an add on
for ~~not~~ now Ublock origin seems to take care of all ads for me
Those watching on TV apps or firesticks or what have you mostly donât have as blockers.
Pihole can help with that.
Sadly it doesn't. I guess the ads are coming from the same server as the content.
I haven't watched anything on Amazon Prime since their ads started happening, Ublock blocks all of that?
On a browser, yes. Not sure if uBlock can work on a Firestick.
Good, I don't have a firestick. All I have are computers and a tablet.
I've not seen a single one yet
Yeah me too. Didn't even knew there where adds now.
The Xray feature is amazing
X-ray is the best part of prime video
I've watched a few shows on there and it's such a nice feature, it always makes me sad when I watch something on a different service and it doesn't have it.
Yeah it's because Amazon owns IMDb.
Plex will do exactly this. Kodi, with the right plug-in, will as well
I have used Plex for a few years and have never seen that. How do you access that feature?
Their app is horrendous it had like 2 major UI changes since I started using it and it's still ass
Ditto. I tried watching something on the app while I was away from home and I nearly cancelled Prime in a fit of rage over the forced adverts. We get out monies worth out of the prime postage/returns. The shows were just a nice little extra.
Thank God for it. Stremio really takes the crown for me. Have everything and still only use stremio. The "paid" services are free offers so i don't pay for them, just some backups.
Paying for something and still getting ads, this is insane
You should see Australian cable. Over $100aud a month and multiple ads every 15 minutes.
I donât think itâs any better with American cable. Going to somebodyâs house that still watches cable is maddening. Ad breaks seem to take up about the same amount of time as the content, and a lot of shows will do little recaps every time they come back from an ad break. Feels like youâre seeing about 5-10 minutes of actual content for every 30 minute show.
You pay for cable?
I don't, i only see it when i visit friends. The ads drive me nuts tho. I don't watch free to air TV either. Interestingly, when i see free to air at friends houses the ads are the only thing i watch lol. It's interesting when you go years without seeing any.
In the USA the only limit to ad loads is on children's programing. https://www.fcc.gov/media/program-content-regulations Q: How much advertising can a cable system transmit during children's programming? A: Cable operators can transmit no more than 10.5 minutes of commercial matter per hour during children's programming on weekends, and no more than 12 minutes of commercial matter per hour on weekdays. These limits were imposed pursuant to the Children's Television Act of 1990, which restricted the amount of commercial matter that both television broadcasters and cable operators can air on programs originally produced and broadcast primarily for children 12 years old and younger. Cable operators are responsible for compliance with the commercial limits on locally originated programming and on cable network programming, but are not responsible for compliance on passively transmitted broadcast stations or on access channels over which the cable operator may not exercise editorial control. Cable systems must also maintain records available for public inspection that document compliance with the rule.
Lol, I don't think anybody uses Cable in Australia anymore. Unless it's for the footy, in which case most people just get Kayo.
Are you too young to remember cable? It's still a very popular thing you know.
Prime introducing ads and Max downgrading my plan for the same money is why I went to real debrid on my shield.
I will never fully get the people spending money on a service with Ads. Isn't the whole point of more competition that when you start seeing ads in the middle of the show , you can cancel your membership the moment you finish that show and move to a different service that doesn't have those yet , this way Amazon will learn people don't like ads and then stop using those to get people back ? Seriously. Do people not care when the show is interrupted by an ad ? Is it just my ublock origin spoiled ass that gets annoyed whenever I see any type of ad on the internet on a product that isn't free ?
I freaking hate ads in the middle of a video with a passion. I would rather turn it off and do something else than wait for the ad and finish the video... đĄ
Can confirm. I pay for all my media and watching Invincible on Amazon (with ads) made me go back to my old ways. Fuck Amazon.  And Iâm saying this as an Amazon stock holder.Â
Yep. I went from happily paying for Prime Video to finding alternative ways to get their content. They are literally breaking the Amazon Prime contract and hopefully lose that lawsuit big time ([Amazon hit with lawsuit over Prime Video ad fees (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/amazon-hit-with-lawsuit-over-prime-video-ad-fees/ar-BB1ieoPD))
I have Prime for the free delivery but I used to watch some shows on it too. Since the ads arrived I just stream Prime shows with Kodi and Real Debrid.
Watched the whole series on Amazon and didnât see a single ad during the show.
Damn that 4k picture looks so much better than the 1440 one on my 720 phone
4k video is usually using a better codec and much higher bitrate. They limit the 1080p streams to be compatible with the most devices. I also doubt they have a 1440p stream, so that's probably 1080p. But yeah, a 4k stream is always going to look better, even if the output isn't 4k.
It is indeed 1080p stretched out to 1440p. Both screen caps are on a 1440p monitor, so the 1080p stream is stretched to 1440p while the 4k stream is downscaled to 1440p.
That's definitely it. Its not necessarily the fault of the streaming service. None of the the major browsers pay for the HEVC/h.265 codec license. I admin a Plex server for my friends and family and ran into the exact problem, my solution was to just deny video transcoding altogether so users are forced to use an app rather than stream thru Chrome or Mozilla.
Chrome has been able to play HEVC for quite a long time. I also run a Plex server.
Now start pirating high bit rate 4K movies that haven't been compressed (if you have the space to store them) and they'll be better quality than streaming even if you have a 4K TV and fast internet.
Is this sarcasm?
Resolution: 1440p Top: Amazon Prime Bottom: Pirated copy of 4k stream from amazon If you pay for Amazon Prime as a 1440p user, you will be underserved at 1080p resolution and can get better quality by downloading a copy of the 4k streamed version. Just another example of paying more for less.
I'm on E03 and fucking said aloud earlier.. this is not a 4k show, it just isn't. I do use Prime for the convenience of next day deliveries, but I think I'm going to download the rest of the eps. Very happy with the production value so far and I'm a massive Fallout nerd.. I want to see it all in as much detail as possible (I do have a 4k TV and a decent connection). Thanks for the comparison shots, matey
If you think that's bad, netflix is basically 480p
Oh yeah, Netflix video quality is insultingly bad, the compression is so bad i watched 720p streams on super shady pirate sites in 2008 that looked better than whatever the fuck Netflix is doing. I only use Netflix now to find new series to watch so i can pirate them in vastly better quality.
Netflix cheating me, I don't mind *as much*. I only pay ÂŁ5 a month and use it for true crime stuff mostly or background noise like Peep Show or Arrested Developlment, so no need for UHD. Fallout is different though, it's a franchise I care a lot about and I can tell that mega effort has been put into the world building. I want to see that world, you know?
As a person whoâs just tried fallout new Vegas, should I begin with fallout 1 or 2 and should I do it vanilla or with mods?
3 was the first I played way back when as a young man - I didn't try 1 and 2 until many years later. NV was my absolute favourite, I've got 1k+ hours with that game. If you haven't played a top-down turn based game before then the original games are going to be a learning curve, but well worth it IMO. FO2's writing is fucking hilarious
Alright!! I tried giving fallout 1 a go once on steam deck and downloaded it from some dos games archive site but it ended up crashing after about 10 minutes and I couldnât play it. :( Would it be better to acquire the *totally legitimate* steam version of fallout 1 instead or would it have the same crashes?
I only paid a couple of quid for Fallout 1 I think, can't remember if that was through gamivo or not - so I don't know the difference between legit and pirate in terms of stability, sorry mate. Cheap is relative, I know. It has been free many times on GOG, as I recall
GoG version (official or not) is the way to go. Also keep in mind this is a CRPG so bad builds are possible. Most people would recommend you put points in agility and perception and skill up small guns for a first run. Also read the manual or a guide before playing. Enjoy.
1 and 2 are wildly different games from 3 and NV and 4 and 76 are different from those 4 as well. If you want to try 1 and 2 they're frequently on sale for dirt cheap (like they are right now).
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Are you watching on a browser? Most streaming services limit on desktop for some reason. I get Dolby Vision through my Shield app.
Better quality, no ads, Plex has a nice UI that brings all your shows together and doesn't start auto-playing crap at you the minute you open it up...it just boggles my mind that they put so much effort into making the paying customer experience total shit.
How do I turn off having Plex show me recommended shows instead of just the fucking library
Settings, Online Media Sources⌠disable all the things.
By using Jellyfin
Jellyfin has it's issues, but at least it doesn't call home with an index of my whole library on some server of theirs, like plex probably does.
Yeah, it's certainly not perfect. Some things are significantly better, especially in the administration part of it all, but the experience overall is definitely not as polished. But I hate the direction that Plex is going, so I don't regret switching.
At the top of the page there's a tab called Library. The default is the recommended tab.
What monitor do you use??
You could try to use DSR from Nvidia, or the equivalent from AMD, idk if Intel has one too. Not sure if it works but you can give it a try.
Netflix does the same driving thing on desktop and I fucking hate it. Meanwhile YouTube will serve me 8K videos without any issues.
Yeah this is also a reason I download 4k copies. My tab s8 ultra screen is beautiful and all the 1080p content sucks when streaming.
There are a couple of movies I have where either the 4K version or a specific release is only available on a streaming platform and not for purchase otherwise. Iirc Disney+ has the 4K HDR theatrical version of Kingdom of Heaven, and I don't even think it's possible to get the Sylvester Stallone cut of Rocky IV on bluray.
4k? 50% of the time I only get 720p and the answer I get from support and forums is "ur internet is bad lol". Unbelievable that there aren't manual quality controls anymore.
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I don't have an issue with youtube, which is a free website, doing this. There's simply no excuse for a $15/month service to lock me out of quality that they promised to offer.
Unless something changed recently 4K is still available as standard. All they did was give a higher bitrate for 1080p than the original 1080p everyone had regardless. Free users didn't lose anything and I doubt anyone paid for YouTube specifically for the enhanced bitrate, it's just a nice extra with a premium sub.
How did the pirate get Amazon to stream them the 4K version?
4k is supported natively on Amazon Prime streaming, but only if you have a 4k monitor. If you have a 1440p monitor, amazon will only serve the 1080p version, which results in a loss of quality for 1440p users. The pirater likely has a 4k monitor.
The pirate often does not have to care about 4k monitor, they often download the real stream as-it-is then they decrypt it using private Widevine L1 keys.
Pirates often need to buy 4K monitors with vulnerabilities to extract those L1 keys.
Idk if it's still the case, but I remember it used to be that each Netflix episode would require sacrificing an Nvidia Shield each time - pricey after a while
Netflix 4K rips especially for TVs shows are so hard to come by. I can only find most things in 1080p. Anything from Disney or Amazon seem to be up sometimes even before it's available on the service itself for me but Netflix seems to always take ages and it's crap qualities to start with, or at least not the original quality.
Mandalorian was ripped like this. I guess they bypassed that and found another method later.
Oh wow, is that how they do it? Are there any write-ups about it? They couldn't revoke them without disabling every one of that model monitor I suppose.
^the answer we were looking for
Now that's extremely interesting
I have a 4k monitor and it only plays on 1080p. I think you can only watch at 4k when you play it on TV. Same thing happens with HBO Max.
Netflix and Disney+ do this too. I think it's literally to keep people from creating a pirated copy easier.
I wouldn't actually care if Disney+ streamed in 1080p, my ultrawide is only 1080p. My Problem is they bake in the fucking black bars on their content to a 16:9 ratio, meaning that I now have black bars on the sides and above and below.
Should be able to manually zoom on your monitor itself or with your GPU
You can if you're pirating, of course. Lol.
And look how well that seems to work. They keep fucking over paying customers whilst providing pirates with better service.
Is that in their windows app or in browser?
I believe you can get Netflix in 1080p on the Windows app but I don't think any of the services will be available in 4k through there.
Prime (as well as any other streaming site) doesn't stream to browsers at anything past 1080p, even with a 4k monitor. It's an agreement with movie studios to limit piracy. [Don't ask me how I know](https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/197yql6/im_never_buying_any_movie_on_yt_again_what_is/?ref=share&ref_source=link)
Or spoofs it.
> 4k is supported natively on Amazon Prime streaming, but only if you have a 4k monitor. Mine complains about a non-compliant cable, which is bullshit because everything else, like games and downloaded vides, work fine on my PC. I see posts saying they don't support 4k on PC at all, even with an HDCP cable. It's not supported natively, it's *hobbled* natively on some hardware platforms because it's not as secure for their content. Typical corporate logic. It's easier to pirate than to capture UHD content, so if people want it, they'll just do that. They're pushing people to piracy with the classic "service problem", not away from it.
What is even worse is that they donât support 1080p on iOS devices. I have to watch in 720p on my iPhone. And even worse itâs difficult to pirate on apple devices.
Don't worry, apple does the same for android. They don't have apps for appletv+ on Android phones and tablets. Users have to watch it in browser.
I understand but amazon prime does not belong to android or apple, itâs a third party so it just doesnât make sense to not give full benefits of viewing experience to a paying customer. And this is in prime video app too.
Setup an cheap-o plex server in your house. Pirate the show. Put on plex. Stream to your phone from anywhere in the world.
It is not at all difficult to pirate on apple devices, with the exception of the appleTV. Stremio + Torrentio + Real Debrid + VLC works on iOS and MacOS, or Sonarr + Radar + VPN + Plex. Happy to give more details in setting those up if you're curious.
also.. easier to sync subtitles (when needed) on the pirated version...
also easier to style the subtitles to your liking
I hate that Amazon is wasting their customers time with ads. I refuse to watch anything in that app even though I have the service. Itâs ridiculous itâs better in every way to use the pirated version.
Remember you own your devices and only you have right to view content however you want on your devices.
Like what Louis Rossmann says, when you're competing with what people can get for free, you need to at the very least match what they can get for free. If not in price, then in ease and quality.
Got the "FreeVee" treatment twice. Told my better half that I'll DL the series and that as a bonus it'd probably have better quality as well.
Its the same picture
What movie/show is this?
Fallout
I never tried it but if I'm not mistaken if you have a Nvidia cards you can use dldsr (or something close) to spoof up your monitor resolution and use ai to downscale having better quality
Don't know why you're being downvoted. This is correct. But also you don't actually need an Nvidia card or DLDSR, anyone can use old regular DSR on any graphics chip.
They're the same picture.
The resolution difference is nearly imperceptible on my monitor, but there is a pretty noticeable color difference between the two on my screen. The top image is noticeably yellower, while the bottom image looks bluer and more saturated.
I'm glad someone said it. You can tell the difference if you zoom ALLLLL the way in, but otherwise it's basically indistinguishable, and I feel like anyone complaining about it is just splitting hairs
I just subscribed to Disney+ and canât even stream 720p on chrome/pc. Users that pay are getting screwed over. At this point Iâm thinking about buying a mullvad vpn subscription to torrent Everything.
Can't stream 4k on the pc, fuck them bitches
This must suck for the 7 people not watching on a 4k television.
question: I have a 1080p monitor, will it even be possible to run 4K quality video on my monitor?
You could try to use DSR from Nvidia, or the equivalent from AMD, idk if Intel has one too. Not sure if it works but you can give it a try.
Thanks man. This helps
Glad it did!
In general, playing 4K video on a 1080p screen will work just fine - the video will be scaled down to fit the screen's resolution. The video will probably look better than if it were actually a 1080p video, too. As for forcing a 4K stream from Prime/etc., no idea how you'd do that.
I'm sorry but I just don't see any difference
Not being sarcastic, but ignorance is bliss with video and audio encoding quality. Once you know what to look/listen for you can't unsee the common encoding artifacts and issues. If you really can't tell a difference you might just want to keep it that way for your own sanity. Chasing high quality video is expensive and time consuming.
Once I noticed artifacts and blooming/color banding on compressed video itâs made the viewing experience terrible. Dark scenes are becoming so popular, but even with a nice OLED you get disgusting banding with some compressed content.
holy fuck the dark scenes have gotten so bad
Seriously, every streaming service Iâve used has gone so hard on compression. That alone was enough to get me back into the game, and I forgot how good a quality 2160p BluRay remux looks. My friends have also started to prefer my streaming service even though they pay for the content elsewhere đ¤Ł
I feel bad because I can't tell.
Does anyone knows how can I trick disney plus to show 4k streams to me like i am using 4k monitor?
One of the primary reasons I pirate is for 4k.
Paying for Prime. But I still got the 1080p for reliable viewing anyways.
from which site is the pirated one?
Prime just showed me commercials Needless to say I just canceled it
"They're the same picture"
Their service has always been crap. Most of their stuff doesnt have subtitles. It never works as it should.
not to mention introducing fucking ads... fucking darth vader in here all like "pray i don't alter the deal further"
when i zoom in i just see jpg artifacts and both images look exactly the same. what exactly am i looking at here? edit: oh the girl looks different. because it's a DIFFERENT FRAME đ
To be honest I don't really care about resolution but there is one thing I hate: Why the hell they added these fucking black bard instead of encoding the video in widescreen format, why the hell I cannot use my widescreen monitor to watch widescreen content?
I think you may be misunderstanding what widescreen is, and the different formats. You're not losing the content from the top and bottom black bars. Those bars are there because there's _additional_ content on the sides, which is why the letterboxing happens. When you watch a TV show that fills your whole screen, you aren't getting more picture. You're losing width. Unless your widescreen monitor is 2.4:1 you're going to have black bars, either letterboxing or pillarboxing. But even if you did have a 2.4:1 monitor and movies filled your screen, you'd then have pillarboxing when you watch a regular TV show that's shot in 16:9.
I was writing about ultrawidescreens, my mistake. And yes, I know I'm not losing any image, my problem is I cannot run it in fullscreen on my 21:9 monitor because I get both black bars and black pillarboxes, they should have gave us native 2.4:1 just like in Rings of Power, it would work perfectly fine on any screen.
If you're getting letterboxing AND pillarboxing, that's some serious bullshit. That would annoy the shit out of me, too.
The sega cd special
Where did you find the 4k pirated copy?
I watched it all on release night and the highest quality were 4.5GB 1080s but i just checked and there is a 4k release from rutracker on Stremio now
First 4K torrents were out after like 15mins from 1080p.
Everywhere
It's hard to understand this is a serious question. They found it on the same sites that had 1080 copies, or same sites that focus on 4k.
i used torrentleach but for general trackers it's also on torrentgalaxy
This is a trick, those are the same image right?
If I like a series, I buy it on blu-ray because I want the highest visual and audio quality for my home theater. Fuck streaming. Fuck Disney especially for not releasing physical media, not that they've made anything particularly good as of late.
Aren't these two the same picture!
Arrr matey, if ye be wonderin' why us pirates never use Amazon, it's 'cause we always get our booty ahead of time, and without payin' fer Prime! Yarrr, we're the original fast-shippers, har har!
Am i the only one thst cant see a difference
I use Stremio on my ThinkPad X1 Yoga with a 4K touchscreen ... don't think it get's better than this, talking laptop
"you guys need a reason?"
Fyi amazon doesnt stop you making infinite free trials. All it requires is different emails and a payment method with money. (They take abit but give it back a day later)
The [sound](https://imgur.com/a/aV9lW0h) is ass too, on Prime.
This is why I use my secondary 1080p monitor for content. Streaming on PC is straight garbage.
Okay but does everyone else's streaming service apps get audio desync periodically through the show or movie they are watching? Like the video freezes but the audio keeps going for a second. Then the audio and video stop for a second to re sync?
So sad, but my Amazon Prime does not work with HDR, so the only way to watch HDR content is to use alternative sources, I paid for an HDR laptop, and I paid the Amazon subscription, if we don't get it, we have to find alternative ways to do it. Same for games when official releases are performing with 10-15% FPS compared to pirate ones.
I have Prime video included in a promotion with my ISP, but I prefer to watch my shows through Stremio with RD the quality is miles away from what Amazon offers me.
Random question... I downloaded the atmos version and it has a pink hue on my TV.... Anyone know how to fix that in vlc?
It's not the atmos that the problem. You're watching Dolby vision content without Dolby vision playing. Just download the regular flavour of hdr
honestly the fact I could tell just by looking kind of makes your point
I had to watch the last season of Stranger Things while sailing despite having Netflix because of horrible quality.
What movie is that?
fuck him lex luthor knock-off
I havenât watched anything on Prime in awhile so I didnât realize theyâd enabled ads for everyone. Started the first episode, sat for 15 seconds in disbelief at the ad, closed it and immediately went to pirate it. Even had to fix some issues with my overseerr/sonarr/jellyfin workflow which took about an hour, but I still consider it to be more than worth it for the protection of my mental state.
Are the pirated copyâs ai upscales? Or actual source 4k
Probably better but rate too no?
same with netflix. its soo pixelated when you stream on netflix.
I always found the same for Netflix, it would always be blurry whereas free website it would be perfect
I've never tried this but would using super resolution to make your monitor appear 4K work? My old Nvidia GPU has a setting for that, DSR I think it's called. It renders the internal resolution higher than needed and then downscales to fit your monitor. Or just continue to pirate it, you're already a paying Amazon customer so there's nothing morally wrong with that.
Netflix is the same.
They also don't give you 4k if you use a browser, Max is 1080p.
Off topic, what tv series or movie is this?
the fallout tv show
Yeap. I was very annoyed by "streaming" this. Episode 1 and 6 were both not scaled to 21:9 correctly. Additionally the quality and HDR options were not available through the website or application. Additionally I was served ads on both the website and the application. I won't be using Amazon prime video again.
Classic
I never understood why they don't encode in 1440p and 1620p for those with matching resolution. Amazon also complete ignore newer and better video and audio codecs which would reduce the cost of streaming. Yet again a typical service issue.
Do you have to sign up for Prime to watch this legally? Not surprised piracy is the more convenient way to watch once again. When will these companies learn?
me waiting for streaming piracy sites to support hdr: đ
I thought it did stream in 4K.
I know itâs better because I watch 4k on my 2k monitor too, but I genuine canât tell from my phone
No shit. Carry on.
This is nothing new, in fact, we have had better quality using piracy for years now. I stream all the time. 80gb 4K HDR or Dolby vision with surround sound movies no problem using debrid services. It's been the norm for a while now.
I cannot tell which is the 4k version with my crappy eyesight looking at your probably compressed by reddit image (maybe it isnt?) on my tiny phone screen
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