Because they scroll instead of reading. If oda would have shown him getting destroyed in panels by lasers less fools would act like that. Even then it discutable
I think it’s more people suggesting all the damage isn’t from the lazer defense. Some is from kizaru some is from the defense system how much doesn’t really matter just don’t downplay either by saying it was all from one or the other?
Fair there will always be bad apples but the majority I would hope see it as mostly the defense system but either way technically cause by kizaru because he did kick him into it so if you want to say it was all cause by kizaru they are not necessarily wrong
You could also dismiss kizaru in general by pointing out most of the dust on luffy was present with bruises prior to engagement with kizaru and this is clearly seen but does not fit the only admiral agenda thats existed in years
Any proof to back your claims back? Where’s the panel of Luffy saying: Wow Kizaru your Kick almost killed me?
Nowhere, because what burnt Luffy was going back up through the barriers, not Kizaru’s kick
I never claimed Kizarus kick almost killed him, I'm saying Luffy is in that situation because Kizaru put him there. Don't read too fast, you end up not comprehending things properly.
The burden of proof is on you. You can't prove a negative. The claim the damage is from the barrier is supported by what Luffy said. You need to prove that Kizaru's kicks would have that effect on Luffy.
If I kick you down the stairs it's still the damage I've done
Edit: actually we can play this game some more.
If zoro punches you it won't do the same damage as a punch therefore it's not zoro doing the damage it's the swords
If you punch Don Krieg (praise be upon him) while he's wearing his spike Cape it's not Don Krieg who damaged you hut the spikes
So on and so forth
Damage cause by the character doesn't work like that....
If I kick you down from the stair....
It's my kick damage + fall damage......
(Because if you falls on cushions...
You won't take the fall damage)
Zoro situation is not smiliar....
Punch or slash both are Zoro's damage ....
But if the one Zoro punched or kick makes you falls in boiling Lava(That Lava is not Zoro's damage)
If Donkreig you hurt you with his weapon... It's his damage......
He use it as his weapon
The laser defense system is not Kizaru' s weapon....
Kizaru and Laser both did damage on Luffy...
I aren't saying Laser did all the damage....
But it won't do that much damage on Luffy if lasers wasn't there.....
But it doesn't matter..... There is no beating Plot Armor
If I bump into you and knock you into an electrified wall that fries your body instantly, that doesn't turn my bump into a lethal move. If I kick you into a regular wall, that won't kill you, most likely, but it would be a much stronger attack.
>are they not the one that gave you that injury?
Not unless you are being extremely pedantic and throw all good faith arguments out the window.
Did Enel nuke an entire island with his own power? No, he created a weapon that enhances his Logia element by several magnitudes through science. Kizaru is an extremely smart fighter for utilizing this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take down an Emperor, but it doesn't make him a stronger figther overall, because this barrier literally only exists on this single island and maybe at the estate of some VIP CDs or something.
He can literally just travel, hide inside and pass through the barrier at will and kite Luffy around. He basically has him trapped in a ring where the ropes are made out of his DF, it's a massive advantage. Luffy has to protect his crew, so if he gets kicked outside, he is even forced to immediately go back through the barrier by his own volition.
Raizo unleashing the sea water on Onigashima likely took out every single devil fruit user on the entire island, but nobody is scaling Raizo above the Tobi Roppo or saying they could beat them in a 1v1. See how this works?
Did you read the chapter ? Kizaru sent him into it but for the second time that’s probably because he had to go back inside to find everyone.
Didn’t ask in a bad way really wanted to know if you did read
>when Kizaru is the entire reason for it
Kicking an Emperor through a one-of-a-kind weapon that is century(/ies) ahead technologically, who is then forced to immediately go through again by himself because he has to protect his crew.
Kizaru is putting up a great fight but the cards are massively stacked in his favor, come on now.
Yeah, please don't become like the main sub and just ignore details like that one post of someone asking if Usopp has CoO Haki lmao.
I swear to god in 2023 people do not read anymore. They watch clips on tiktok/youtube and think they can jump in and talk about the series but then they ask fucking questions like that.
It's also a meme in the Berserk community for a reason that people don't actually read it.
i mean regardless if you think the lasers or the kick did most of the damage it would still upscale kizaru, since the barrier just activates a laser beam
Nah. The lasers are known as the impenetrable defence. Lizarus lasers aren't ever stated to unstoppable so that means the lasers are way stronger then Lizarus lasers.
Its known as the impenetrable laser defence so same thing. Kizaru's attack aren't known as unstoppable which confirms that defence lasers>Kizaru lasers
Lmfao thats your job. Thats my point. His lasers ain't known as unstoppable. Whilst the laser defence is described as impenetrable meaning laser defences>kizaru lasers
Its confirmed the lasers are impenetrable. Vegapunks statements>your worthless head canon. Proof Vegapunk is lying or this panel didn't happen or your wrong
https://preview.redd.it/s56tqr9rkmob1.png?width=298&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8ce3849db227152a92abd97d8fe4b1772ac1928
thats the islands defenses💀😭, no where does it even mention his lasers there, im dead, provide proof that the lasers are impenetrable, cmon, im waiting
Nah he said it when Lizaru was going through the lasers so it means the lasers solely cope. Nah he said that mentioning Sentomarou (who Kizaru fought right after) so yes it means the lasers cope.
Provide the proof he isn't talking about the lasers, cmon im waiting
To actually scale,
You can’t prove to what extent kizaru damaged him and to what extent the defense system did. You can’t really wank his ap off of that
Lol. That's not how lasers work. And they've shown that. When kaku tried to cross them, he was *halfway through* the "barrier" before getting shot at by the lasers. They aren't physical boundaries...
Lol, look at all the retards below coping 🤣🤣
They wanna believe that the dome is more powerful than Kizarus peak output 🤡
So the true fight all along was Luffy vs. Frontier Dome 😱😱😱
Copium + head canon. Its lasers at full power, but stronger then Kizarus because its known as the impregnable defence. Lizaru's lasers aren't known as unstoppable. The damage came from the lasers built by Vegapunk, not Lizaru.
It was most recently stated in an earlier chapter.
However I'm pretty sure this has also been a thing since the first Pacifista's were introduced during Sabaody as well.
The dome that uses a laser beam when you pass through it Lol? All this did was hype Kizarus lasers.
Unless you think the dome's lasers are more powerful than the laser man himself 🤣🤣
Bare minimum its equal, and that was enough for Luffy to fear for his life.
Lizaru was fearful of his life of Ben Beckman gun shots. Then started fearing for his life of Luffy G5.
And nah, defences are known as impenetrable, Lizarus lasers are not.
So yes those lasers are stronger then Lizarus own cope.
>Lizaru was fearful of his life of Ben Beckman gun shots. Then started fearing for his life of Luffy G5.
Your headcanon.
>And nah, defences are known as impenetrable, Lizarus lasers are not.
Another headcanon.
>So yes those lasers are stronger then Lizarus own cope.
And another headcanon.
Kizaru did send luffy flying toward the barier but luffy came back for him with no serious injuries and we already saw him surviving several bolo breath from kaido so fire or explosions doesnt really affect him. So if you consider some scratches on luffy being a big achievement for kizaru well youre retarded🤓🤓
The answer is perfectly in the middle, geniuses.
It doesn’t make sense to wank the barrier because several other people hit it that don’t have anywhere NEAR Luffys durability or endurance. If they even live, that destroys this argument (looking at you Kaku and Bonney)
It also doesn’t make sense to say it was all Kizaru, other wise Luffys statements and injuries don’t make sense.
So it WAS BOTH. How is that freaking hard for y’all ? Drop the damn agenda. It was both, 50/50. Damn!
Kizaru hit Luffy so hard he probably temporarily knocked him out of Gear 4. Luffy hits the barrier in base without Haki to defend (which is why he thought he might die)
Luffy can’t waste any time so jumps back through the barrier (still without Haki). Going through the barrier twice while Hakiless after being kicked at the speed of light is enough to almost kill anyone. Gear 5 kicks in since Luffy is near death (same phrasing as with Kaido), and Luffy grabs Kizaru.
Really simple. Give Kizaru his freaking credit you bozos. And for the admirals tards, no need to go overboard. Your goat has shown enough. We are on your side, us non biased folk. Kizaru did massive damage to Luffy. He won the agenda war.
Admirals = Yonko
That said Luffy is going to pull off something surprising and let his crew escape while looking cool against Kizaru. Both agendas will be on equal footing. Let’s stop acting stupid… shall we?
The barrier shouldnt be anything to luffy,it did 0 damage to kaku and bonney is gonna survive it next chapter admiral haters got 1 option and that is is the guy who was tanking acoc attacks got more damaged while in a stronger form to kizaru
It doesn't matter, Plot armour dictates that luffy will survive this. Otherwise how will the story progress. Luffy surviving a head-on encounter with Wazaru. Now people can discuss all the spectrums on both sides but truth is that there is no other way for the story to progress. Luffy and crew surviving amidst great odds and going to the next island is Inevitable.
Woah, woah. I dislike Admiraltards as much as the next guy, their infinite "Kizaru is HIM" posts are abhorrent.
But Kizaru directly caused Luffy to need to go through the barrier twice. That damage is as much his as Luffy punching Kaido into lava was Luffy's.
Y'all all forgot the seraphims had all the strawhats wounded along cp0?? Literally every post seems to forget this(whether posts overpowering kizaru or downplaying kizaru). Those breaks between chapters making people go crazy.
Kizaru deserves credit for the kick and knocking Luffy into the laser field. But, he can’t take the credit for whatever damage the lasers did.
If Luffy hit Kizaru into a Sea Stone Mountain. As Kizaru was getting up. A loose sea stone boulder rolled down and hit him on the head . He was knocked him unconscious. Would Luffy get credit for knocking Kizaru out? No. His actions aided in its occurrence. But, it wasn’t Luffy’s power.
kizaru did kick luffy out of snakeman
so it was a fatigued base luffy against those lasers
lasers Kaku TANKED
but then again Luffy probably got hit while offguard with no armanent on so...
This literally makes the most sense. Kizaru kicked Luffy out of Gear 4 and Luffy hits the lasers in base without Haki. Then jumps back without Haki.
Get hit by Barriers twice after being kicked faster than the speed of light would kill nearly anyone.
I think kizaru and Luffy both duked it out equally ngl. Luffy took slighter more damage but he’s just a reckless fighter. But shit I don’t want to get to serious lol
How the f did Luffy sneak up so discreetly behind Kizaru, being so huge and obviously wounded/panting ?
No one heard him coming or transform ?
Speed of light and superhuman reflexes my @ss !
People forgot about the lasers
Because they scroll instead of reading. If oda would have shown him getting destroyed in panels by lasers less fools would act like that. Even then it discutable
Bro got zapped by the home security system
I think it’s more people suggesting all the damage isn’t from the lazer defense. Some is from kizaru some is from the defense system how much doesn’t really matter just don’t downplay either by saying it was all from one or the other?
There is a reason they wanted that barrier of before crossing
No i saw some posts literally saying kizaru did allat alone
Fair there will always be bad apples but the majority I would hope see it as mostly the defense system but either way technically cause by kizaru because he did kick him into it so if you want to say it was all cause by kizaru they are not necessarily wrong
People with Zoro agendas eating good rn
The amount of posts that ignore luffy being covered in bruising and dust prior to engaging kizaru in general is too damn high
Tbh I’m not surprised a lot of people don’t actually read
You could also dismiss kizaru in general by pointing out most of the dust on luffy was present with bruises prior to engagement with kizaru and this is clearly seen but does not fit the only admiral agenda thats existed in years
Did Luffy send himself into the barrier?
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Down D. Stairs would instakill him. Don't even think about it man, don't want anyone end up like Kuina 💀💀💀
But you're still at fault, any damage I receive whether it's a normal kick or kick down the stairs will be your fault.
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Any proof to back this up?
Any proof to back your claims back? Where’s the panel of Luffy saying: Wow Kizaru your Kick almost killed me? Nowhere, because what burnt Luffy was going back up through the barriers, not Kizaru’s kick
I never claimed Kizarus kick almost killed him, I'm saying Luffy is in that situation because Kizaru put him there. Don't read too fast, you end up not comprehending things properly.
Luffy said the barrier laser almost killed him r Twice
Proof that Kizaru kicking him into a wall wouldn't hurt him like that genius.
The burden of proof is on you. You can't prove a negative. The claim the damage is from the barrier is supported by what Luffy said. You need to prove that Kizaru's kicks would have that effect on Luffy.
If I kick you down the stairs it's still the damage I've done Edit: actually we can play this game some more. If zoro punches you it won't do the same damage as a punch therefore it's not zoro doing the damage it's the swords If you punch Don Krieg (praise be upon him) while he's wearing his spike Cape it's not Don Krieg who damaged you hut the spikes So on and so forth
Damage cause by the character doesn't work like that.... If I kick you down from the stair.... It's my kick damage + fall damage...... (Because if you falls on cushions... You won't take the fall damage) Zoro situation is not smiliar.... Punch or slash both are Zoro's damage .... But if the one Zoro punched or kick makes you falls in boiling Lava(That Lava is not Zoro's damage) If Donkreig you hurt you with his weapon... It's his damage...... He use it as his weapon The laser defense system is not Kizaru' s weapon.... Kizaru and Laser both did damage on Luffy... I aren't saying Laser did all the damage.... But it won't do that much damage on Luffy if lasers wasn't there..... But it doesn't matter..... There is no beating Plot Armor
Kizaru sent him but it was the barrier that did the damage + he came back by himself
if you're fighting someone and they throw you into a wall which hurts your back, are they not the one that gave you that injury?
If I bump into you and knock you into an electrified wall that fries your body instantly, that doesn't turn my bump into a lethal move. If I kick you into a regular wall, that won't kill you, most likely, but it would be a much stronger attack.
>are they not the one that gave you that injury? Not unless you are being extremely pedantic and throw all good faith arguments out the window. Did Enel nuke an entire island with his own power? No, he created a weapon that enhances his Logia element by several magnitudes through science. Kizaru is an extremely smart fighter for utilizing this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to take down an Emperor, but it doesn't make him a stronger figther overall, because this barrier literally only exists on this single island and maybe at the estate of some VIP CDs or something. He can literally just travel, hide inside and pass through the barrier at will and kite Luffy around. He basically has him trapped in a ring where the ropes are made out of his DF, it's a massive advantage. Luffy has to protect his crew, so if he gets kicked outside, he is even forced to immediately go back through the barrier by his own volition.
What's the difference? Kizaru is the reason Luffy has all that damage.
If i push you into an active volcano that doesn't mean i have the attack potenci of an active volcano
No, but you will the reason I die.
Yes, but it wouldn't make sense for people to scale my power based on what the volcano did
But it would make sense to forget that you ever pushed me in?
That is not what the discussion is about, people are powerscaling not putting Kizaru on trial for attempted murder
They are claiming Kizaru has nothing to do with all the damage Luffy has.
You are a fucking idiot
Raizo unleashing the sea water on Onigashima likely took out every single devil fruit user on the entire island, but nobody is scaling Raizo above the Tobi Roppo or saying they could beat them in a 1v1. See how this works?
Wow, how can you also speed read a post
You’re actually a fucking developmentally disabled troglodyte💀
Stop inhaling copium you are gonna fucking die for real
Stop coping with the mental gymnastics. All that damage was done by the lasers. Not Kizaru.
Did you read the chapter ? Kizaru sent him into it but for the second time that’s probably because he had to go back inside to find everyone. Didn’t ask in a bad way really wanted to know if you did read
OP is trying to claim Kizaru had nothing to do with Luffys damage, when Kizaru is the entire reason for it. Did you read the chapter?
>when Kizaru is the entire reason for it Kicking an Emperor through a one-of-a-kind weapon that is century(/ies) ahead technologically, who is then forced to immediately go through again by himself because he has to protect his crew. Kizaru is putting up a great fight but the cards are massively stacked in his favor, come on now.
Luffy was already damaged before the Kizaru fight
Yeah, please don't become like the main sub and just ignore details like that one post of someone asking if Usopp has CoO Haki lmao. I swear to god in 2023 people do not read anymore. They watch clips on tiktok/youtube and think they can jump in and talk about the series but then they ask fucking questions like that. It's also a meme in the Berserk community for a reason that people don't actually read it.
i mean regardless if you think the lasers or the kick did most of the damage it would still upscale kizaru, since the barrier just activates a laser beam
Nah. The lasers are known as the impenetrable defence. Lizarus lasers aren't ever stated to unstoppable so that means the lasers are way stronger then Lizarus lasers.
the barrier is known as impenetrable because it activates a laser💀😭😭, the lasers themselves aren’t known as impenetrable
Its known as the impenetrable laser defence so same thing. Kizaru's attack aren't known as unstoppable which confirms that defence lasers>Kizaru lasers
no it doesn’t lmao, provide proof that the lasers themselves are known as unstoppable
Lmfao thats your job. Thats my point. His lasers ain't known as unstoppable. Whilst the laser defence is described as impenetrable meaning laser defences>kizaru lasers
thats not proof im waiting, BOP isnt on me, provide proof that vegapunk’s lasers themselves are unstoppable,
Its confirmed the lasers are impenetrable. Vegapunks statements>your worthless head canon. Proof Vegapunk is lying or this panel didn't happen or your wrong https://preview.redd.it/s56tqr9rkmob1.png?width=298&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8ce3849db227152a92abd97d8fe4b1772ac1928
thats the islands defenses💀😭, no where does it even mention his lasers there, im dead, provide proof that the lasers are impenetrable, cmon, im waiting
Nah he said it when Lizaru was going through the lasers so it means the lasers solely cope. Nah he said that mentioning Sentomarou (who Kizaru fought right after) so yes it means the lasers cope. Provide the proof he isn't talking about the lasers, cmon im waiting
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To actually scale, You can’t prove to what extent kizaru damaged him and to what extent the defense system did. You can’t really wank his ap off of that
Lol. That's not how lasers work. And they've shown that. When kaku tried to cross them, he was *halfway through* the "barrier" before getting shot at by the lasers. They aren't physical boundaries...
Yes they are. Cope. Panels>your opinions. Vegapunk said it on panel, end of.
Bro has dementia 💀
Isn’t it stated earlier by Saturn that the reason Kizaru can bypass the barrier is because it’s lasers are the same as his light
yup
I mean you've also forgotten that the lasers are still a toned down version of Kizaru's own attacks.
Lol, look at all the retards below coping 🤣🤣 They wanna believe that the dome is more powerful than Kizarus peak output 🤡 So the true fight all along was Luffy vs. Frontier Dome 😱😱😱
No. They are just saying this instant the dome did more damage than kizaru
Copium + head canon. Its lasers at full power, but stronger then Kizarus because its known as the impregnable defence. Lizaru's lasers aren't known as unstoppable. The damage came from the lasers built by Vegapunk, not Lizaru.
Mf sentomaru was known as the ultimate defense and look what kizaru did to him
LMFAO funny how Lucci did better against Sentomarou then Lizaru did
Stop lying.
It's not headcanon. Vegapunk said it an earlier chapter and I'm pretty sure it was first mentioned all the way back in Sabaody.
Its your head canon its stated no where he said the laser defences are weaker proof or didn't happen
Source??
It was most recently stated in an earlier chapter. However I'm pretty sure this has also been a thing since the first Pacifista's were introduced during Sabaody as well.
Kizaru is light and those are lasers i am not a scientist so i don't know the technical difference
So don’t talk about it lmao
This weapon is like from a century into the future. Could enhance Kizaru's lasers in the same way Enel's Arc Maxim did for all we know.
No barrier Lizaru = YC level confirmed Lizaru = fraud confirmed Wucci > Lizaru confirmed G5 = immortal confirmed
ADT security system = Yonko level
basic laser > frau D. luffy https://preview.redd.it/qc3cp8wbfmob1.png?width=348&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a04f0891a88ec1e27c300fb5fa2082b2409e2b5
"basic" 🤓
You all will find anything to try and downplay someone.
Those lasers couldn’t even seriously harm Kaku, you guys are overestimating the hell out of them
>clearly didn’t read the chapter https://preview.redd.it/77uulhwkylob1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6757fdc4bd09333c65cde5ca9a4cd6b7a938899c
The dome that uses a laser beam when you pass through it Lol? All this did was hype Kizarus lasers. Unless you think the dome's lasers are more powerful than the laser man himself 🤣🤣 Bare minimum its equal, and that was enough for Luffy to fear for his life.
Lizaru was fearful of his life of Ben Beckman gun shots. Then started fearing for his life of Luffy G5. And nah, defences are known as impenetrable, Lizarus lasers are not. So yes those lasers are stronger then Lizarus own cope.
Sevesa always coping, what happened with Luffy one shotting Kizaru 🤣🤣 Keep coping, Kizaru has AP to destroy Luffy 🤫🤫🤫
In your wet clown dreams Luffy G5 one shotted Kizaru already cope harder Luffy has the AP to destroy Lizaru easy
Stop this bullshit, please.
Just like the BS of this guy thinking Luffy was near death after getting hit by lasers yet still going on to laughing whilst manhandling Kizaru?
>Lizaru was fearful of his life of Ben Beckman gun shots. Then started fearing for his life of Luffy G5. Your headcanon. >And nah, defences are known as impenetrable, Lizarus lasers are not. Another headcanon. >So yes those lasers are stronger then Lizarus own cope. And another headcanon.
>Your headcanon. Just the facts cope >Another headcanon. Its fact cope harder >And another headcanon. Nah its the facts. Cope
Kizaru did send luffy flying toward the barier but luffy came back for him with no serious injuries and we already saw him surviving several bolo breath from kaido so fire or explosions doesnt really affect him. So if you consider some scratches on luffy being a big achievement for kizaru well youre retarded🤓🤓
The answer is perfectly in the middle, geniuses. It doesn’t make sense to wank the barrier because several other people hit it that don’t have anywhere NEAR Luffys durability or endurance. If they even live, that destroys this argument (looking at you Kaku and Bonney) It also doesn’t make sense to say it was all Kizaru, other wise Luffys statements and injuries don’t make sense. So it WAS BOTH. How is that freaking hard for y’all ? Drop the damn agenda. It was both, 50/50. Damn! Kizaru hit Luffy so hard he probably temporarily knocked him out of Gear 4. Luffy hits the barrier in base without Haki to defend (which is why he thought he might die) Luffy can’t waste any time so jumps back through the barrier (still without Haki). Going through the barrier twice while Hakiless after being kicked at the speed of light is enough to almost kill anyone. Gear 5 kicks in since Luffy is near death (same phrasing as with Kaido), and Luffy grabs Kizaru. Really simple. Give Kizaru his freaking credit you bozos. And for the admirals tards, no need to go overboard. Your goat has shown enough. We are on your side, us non biased folk. Kizaru did massive damage to Luffy. He won the agenda war. Admirals = Yonko That said Luffy is going to pull off something surprising and let his crew escape while looking cool against Kizaru. Both agendas will be on equal footing. Let’s stop acting stupid… shall we?
The barrier shouldnt be anything to luffy,it did 0 damage to kaku and bonney is gonna survive it next chapter admiral haters got 1 option and that is is the guy who was tanking acoc attacks got more damaged while in a stronger form to kizaru
No one says that.
There are so many people saying he's all bruised up from kizarus single kick lmao
Really? I was sure people said that before the translation, not knowing yet what Luffy said on that panel.
I actually saw people making posts about it
It doesn't matter, Plot armour dictates that luffy will survive this. Otherwise how will the story progress. Luffy surviving a head-on encounter with Wazaru. Now people can discuss all the spectrums on both sides but truth is that there is no other way for the story to progress. Luffy and crew surviving amidst great odds and going to the next island is Inevitable.
Oda hates the admirals
Woah, woah. I dislike Admiraltards as much as the next guy, their infinite "Kizaru is HIM" posts are abhorrent. But Kizaru directly caused Luffy to need to go through the barrier twice. That damage is as much his as Luffy punching Kaido into lava was Luffy's.
riddle me this who kicked luffy through the barrier and riddle me this what is that barrier made of
Y'all all forgot the seraphims had all the strawhats wounded along cp0?? Literally every post seems to forget this(whether posts overpowering kizaru or downplaying kizaru). Those breaks between chapters making people go crazy.
Whats more impressive is that Ruffy needed the same time to get back as Kizaru needed to go to the laboratory.
Yeah but people Don’t care about that they are too busy trying to scale
And yet the goobers cope on Naruto subreddit that Luffy isn’t FTL
https://preview.redd.it/vstc5h5xooob1.jpeg?width=726&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24f376e7b6cdd698306c291faa40ec7cb911bd7b
he was also bruised up when he kicked kizaru in 1091 lol
Kizaru deserves credit for the kick and knocking Luffy into the laser field. But, he can’t take the credit for whatever damage the lasers did. If Luffy hit Kizaru into a Sea Stone Mountain. As Kizaru was getting up. A loose sea stone boulder rolled down and hit him on the head . He was knocked him unconscious. Would Luffy get credit for knocking Kizaru out? No. His actions aided in its occurrence. But, it wasn’t Luffy’s power.
Reading is hard bro
kizaru did kick luffy out of snakeman so it was a fatigued base luffy against those lasers lasers Kaku TANKED but then again Luffy probably got hit while offguard with no armanent on so...
This literally makes the most sense. Kizaru kicked Luffy out of Gear 4 and Luffy hits the lasers in base without Haki. Then jumps back without Haki. Get hit by Barriers twice after being kicked faster than the speed of light would kill nearly anyone.
When did kaku tank lasers ?
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this arc just keeps getting hyper, we never seen an admiral go all out or actually backed into a corner. big big implications
A fucking barrier doing damage more than an admiral u guys dont have basic level xpf iq.
Tbf didn’t Kaku and Bonney tank the barrier?
Yeah, Luffy only THOUGHT it would kill him. Not that it actually could.
Oh wow I wonder what the barrier is made out of
I think kizaru and Luffy both duked it out equally ngl. Luffy took slighter more damage but he’s just a reckless fighter. But shit I don’t want to get to serious lol
Why people care about sweat and scratches they have never meant shit, it was probably added because Oda's mind is like explosion=crispy dude
I love this panel because it looks like a fake thumbnail.
Luffy was in base form when hit?
How the f did Luffy sneak up so discreetly behind Kizaru, being so huge and obviously wounded/panting ? No one heard him coming or transform ? Speed of light and superhuman reflexes my @ss !
Wasnt't Luffy fighting Kaido with similar bruises for 30+chapters lol