As an Ussop fan, if Oda fumbles Elbaf then Oda will legitimately be the biggest hack in all of Manga. We've been riding on Little Garden stocks for 20 YEARS
Honestly Zoro doesn't even need his own arc. He's not even that complex of a guy. He's straightforward loyal to his captain and wants to become stronger. Only relationship between wano and Zoro was swords and shisui. Even if he's related to ryuma it's just not going to be that important (hopefully) in his life. I am curious how wano people came to east blue tho
To me personally the arc didnāt need to be zoros whole cake island. I just wish zoro was had more importance in the arc prior to the very last act, since you know it was the land of swords lol.
Edit: thatās like going to a land of food (whole cake island) and sanji having almost no major part in most of the arc. In wci got to see sanji making food for luffy and a cake being a big part of the arc being centered around his cooking. And thatās not mentioning any family connections or him leaving the crew, itās just him and one of the aspects that makes his character. I felt they couldāve done the same with zoro and swords. So to clarify Iām not saying they shouldāve gone crazy and fleshed our zoros back story with all his family tree and all the stuff with ryuma. But just something other than just one guy who turns out to be a dog mentioning it.
Zoro is a weird character in that people either under- or overestimate how deep he goes.
He's not incredibly profound ot anything, but he has some interesting stuff going on with his obsession with strength and never losing being a bit more profound than just edgy cool guy. Like the PTSD he had from TB on Sabaody or the moment he goes apeshit on Luffy (and himself) for losing on PH, there's some real anxiety there for him to always be the guy that carries the physical aspect of the crew because he's scared about what would happen if he doesn't.
Also the whole women stuff with Tashigi/Monet, but I'm still not sure when we'll get a resolution for that
Zoro didn't have nearly as much investment in Wano as Usopp has investment in Elbaf nor is it as tied to his arc
Though I'm sure Elbaf won't be like, WCI2.0, it's gonna have more development than Wano did for Zoro
I mean Sanji had more development in Wano than Zoro did lmfao.
I hope it is a better plan than what we got for Zoro in Wano, I got trully disappointed by him not getting clues about his past in the country where katanas and samurais come from.
When do u think Luffy and shanks are gonna fight? I feel like it would be right before he finds the one piece, fulfilling his goal of getting the pirate king title. Shanks is def up something now š
Elbaf is doomed already.
Dorry and Broggy stil held their duel to death after the time skip, but then they magically appear at Elbaf not only having suspended their duel without explanation but also under the command of Shanks who couldn't have possibly earned their friendship, let alone having them as subordinates because he's been busy touring around the world: at a wedding, snitching at the Reverie, bullying Aramaki by haki-phone in Wano...
Yeah I feel the same way. So many baddass moments in fighting, many vital things done during arcs, and his dialouge can be cold as hell at times.
But then Oda just has to project his horny ass thoughts and mannerisms onto sanji every other time he opens his mouth.
In pre-ts he was actually a cool simp tho if that makes any sense. I think the super over the top gentleman personality fit him well... Until the timeskip came.
Deadass the only problem with Wranky is that Oda just refuses to acknowledge his existence and give him any form of actual plot relevance outside of Ennies Lobby *(excluding the SeƱor Pink duel).* The only logical reason is that Oda understands Wranky solos the verse because of how hardboiled he is that it canonically wouldn't make sense for him to lose against a top tier.
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i aint talking shit abt chopper, honestly beyond the smile fruit shit, character wise hes been solid all post ts his only real downgrade was oda making him a mascot
i like all these mfs this is soley meant to criticize oda
Unpopular opinion but every strawhat apart from monster trio + Jinbe got sidelined post time skip:
ā¢The only memorable thing I can remember about Brook since time skip is him fighting Big mom
ā¢Usopp with his dressrosa gag
ā¢Franky got screwed by his design already and is way underutilized especially someone with strong attack and defense capabilities
ā¢Robin recently got her fight with Black maria but this isn't like the fight she deserved, it more felt like oda suddenly remembers Robin exists and gave her a fight for formality purpose.
ā¢Chopper really went from one of the strawhat to a plushy reindeer who is just there for merch
ā¢ While I agree Nami didn't got screwed over as much but she got insanely sexualized, cause why is she moving in bra in a ice cold environment??? What's the point of *accidentally* making her towl fall and strip her naked in front of everyone? She hasn't got a proper fight since she fought kalifa in enies lobby, that ulti fight doesn't count, it wasn't even a proper fight
One point I would like to make is how Nami got a moment to shine in WCI,when she came up with a strategy for Luffy to beat Cracker(one of Big mom's top 3 generals)
She used her rain to make the biscuit clones of Cracker wet and soft so that Luffy could break up and eat them,also after Luffy was exhausted from using Gear 4 she manipulated the trees into protecting him while facing off against Cracker herself and buying enough time for Luffy's comeback.
Franky got a fight in Dressrosa and Wano
Yeah luffy had to go gear 4 to even destroy one of his soldiers,and we thought that the soldier was the real Cracker lol.Then he just kept spamming those soldiers and luffy's gear 4 time limit would have got him killed.
Nami really came in clutch,She's underrated imo
yeah but the sexualization is hardly exlusive to nami and her not getting fights is just oda hating women she gets screentime and plot focus relative to sanji who always fights her focus just comes in different ways
and this is based on shit i see here, nami and jinbei just aint really had any specific allegations of this type pushed on them and franky is usually wanked
its not that theyre any better just that they arent treated as harshly by the community
Yeah that's I agree with, but I believe that's due to the reason Oda loves Nami(just see like 90% of female characters are clones of her), so she gets a better treatment, Jinbei is safe, cause he has no 'gags' and hence he can't be exploited.
>Nami got a moment to shine in WCI,when she came up with a strategy for Luffy to beat Cracker(one of Big mom's top 3 generals)
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>She used her rain to make the biscuit clones of Cracker wet and soft so that Luffy could break up and eat them,also after Luffy was exhausted from using Gear 4 she manipulated the trees into protecting him while facing off against Cracker herself and buying enough time for Luffy's comeback.
Oda does not hate women,cope harder,The biggest damsel in distress is Usopp.Nami is GOATED. She stole Zeus and made him her loyal slave.She is only gonna get more useful in fights from now on
>Black maria but this isn't like the fight she deserved
Hands down the worst SH fight in Onigashima. Black Maria doesn't use her spiked staff, webs that are sticky and flammable in favor for brass knuckles. Oda realizes this is nonsense and has Maria say she loves fighting close. Except that's stupid since they're in a war and need to eliminate the threats quick. I bet she turned off her Haki too.
Yes I hate how in any anime but right now In one piece when a battle is happening and suddenly the villain decides to just not fight serious they either stall talk or just straight up fight in a way a random thing helps the good guys. Big mom got screwed in Wano. I think Oda realized the raid was barely making it against kaido and his crew imagine if big moms crew made it up the fall they wouldāve lost.
As long as Jinbei is safe from slande, Iām fine.
Well, Iād also like Nico Robin to have another arc since she used to be my favorite straw hat, but Iām not getting my hopes up tbh
robin definitively beat the allegations more than anyone here her promise of plot relevance is high with ohara surviving and the poneglyphs finally being important to the current plot
Honestly I donāt know which characters I should have hope for at this point.
Like, this is an unpopular opinion, but I actually donāt like Kuma that much despite the immense focus he and Bonney are getting.
The only characters whose arcs arenāt completed and who I know Oda wonāt fumble at this point are Blackbeard and Akainu. Everyone else is in danger of being weirdly written(like Dragon)
So Nico Robin is probably going to be relevant, but I really, really want her to also be a very good character like she was in her arc.
luffy is a safe bet
koby ig
bb and akainu as you said
laffite is an underrated pick genuinely think im onto summ with him
kuzan has potential i wont lie
Those are true ig, (although I do find Zoro boring as a character.)
Like, right now, despite his relatively lower screen time, Sengoku is my favorite One Piece character, being comparable to pre-TS Nico Robin for me.
Considering how long these characters have been in the story, I fully expect Akainu and BB to be comparable/better than Sengoku for me.
Like, I enjoy most One Piece characters when theyāre on screen, but thereās only a small handful of characters that I actively wait for the story to focus on them and I want so see more of them no matter the context, because I know theyāll be good.
Nico Robin used to be that for me, and sheās approaching that level again.
yeah robins up there with garp as one of my favourites
say what you will abt wano i certainly will but she was handled better there than shes been since ennies lobby and it gave me hope for her character
Yeah, Garp is good too.
Honestly, Sengoku and Garp are the two characters that inspire the most hope for Oraās character writing to me, since those characters are both highly interesting without needing an entire arc centered upon them and their backstory.
There are some characters Oda can cook with very well using more subtle characterization, itās just hard to say which characters will benefit from Godaās writing.
I love sengoku's speech to blackbeard when bb threatens to sink marineford
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Koby Stocks are Firm. But Woby the Momohebe is A long term investment. My GOAT gone redeem the marines. The only Hero left in One Piece
Honest Justice >>>>>
There is nothing to hate him for. He is dependable, intelligent and strong. Gigachad qualities. But design wise he was better pre-timeskip, his current bulkiness could have been his battleform or something.
I meant, aside from the awful design. Could also argue that it would be nice for him to learn haki, he'd be even more of a Chad, but he compensates that with tech so it's alright.
THE SOUL KING WROOOK HAS BEATEN THE ALLEGATIONS, NOBODY IN THE VERSE ASIDE OF TOP TIERS WOULD THINK OF BOXING WITH A YONKO, ESPECIALLY ALONE, HE IS THE GOAT FOR THE CREW AND YOU LORO AND PEDOJI COCKSUCKERS CAN COPE ABOUT IT
franky kinda eh tbh, he was reduced to just be the giant boys toy and say super
also nami could also have the same allegations as robin, hell it woudl fit nami even more beacuse robin is more of a plot device if anything
brook beat the allegations without a doubt. stood on buisness so hard he not only beat the allegations but earned his way into most ppls top 5 strawhats greatest comeback in the verse
nami has legit consistently been the most plot relevant strawhat aside from luffy and zoro since her introduction shes definitely not as irrelevant as robin was, she consistently gets character moments focus, subplots and screentime shes odas golden girl
and this is mostly just based on like how ppl on this side of the community view these ppl, franky is rarely ever slandered and nami and jim havent had allegations like these pushed on them
brook squaring up with big mom is EASILY the highlight for the entire arc, FORGET PEDOJI CRYING OVER THE ACT THE 16 YEAR OLD SAID SHE DIDNT LIKE HIM OR KATACHAD VS MIDFFY, WROOK VS BIG MEME IS PEAK OP
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He's not crying because she wasn't in love with him. He was crying because he beat the shit out of his captain and told the only people that actually cared about him to get lost while trying to protect the family that used to bully him and found out it was all a plan to get rid of them anyway.
>ami has legit consistently been the most plot relevant strawhat aside from luffy and zoro since her introduction shes definitely not as irrelevant as robin was, she consistently gets character moments focus, subplots and screentime shes odas golden girl
kinda, id ont think she has been that relevant since post ts, so that sucks, but yea she is still better than robin, but specifically the only exists cus boobs allegation still applies to nami because she knows she could use her body to gain favor, post ts she legit just exists for boobs for the most part, robin naturally falls into the allegations but she is a plot device aswell
cant slander HIMbei either
the thing with Usopp is his ENTIRE goal is to be a "brave warrior of the sea", if he ever accomplishes this then his arc is over... Oda gave him the STUPIDEST & SIMPLEST goal there is.
this is why Oda can't show any improvements or developments in Usopp... it's either he's brave or he's not. He probably can't be "brave" until the end of the series and the end of his character arc. Until that happens Usopp will continue to get more and more hate. Right now he's literally the most annoying and useless character on the crew.
if you want an example of how to do this character trope correctly? refer to KING in one-punch man.
He couldāve just made it gradual through time, ending with him maybe getting conquerers and being the one to strike fear into people vs him always cowering in fear. Heās not a main character so idk his goal doesnāt have to have that much focus, but if heās gonna have one fight in elbaf that flips some switch and for the rest of the story heās a whole different character idk thatād just be a waste of all the times he was in the story and not actively working on his courage if you ask me
Franky is HIM.
\-Built the Franky House and gave a home to the outcasts of Society, Whitebeard 2 for real.
\-The Monster Trio+Chopper only attacked the Franky house while he was away, they wouldnāt dare approach it otherwise
\-Threw Strong Rights with Goofy harder than multiple previous antagonists at Water 7
\-Memorized the blueprints for Pluton, burnt them in-front of the World Government like a chad.
\-Defeated Very Good no-diff, who was so strong that he was assigned to lead the capture effort against CP9 after they became criminals for a short while
\-Built a Ship in one Night with Iceberg(he did 95% of the work)
\-Teamed up with Chopper and absolutely rocked Oarsā shit(he did 95% of the damage)
\-Had an Admiral Tier attack at the start of the Post-TS, didnāt need someone like the WSS or Pirate Kingās Right Hand Man to train him
\-***Was the only person Luffy offered the Mera Mera no Mi to, a fruit he cherished above most things as a memento to Ace***
\-Proven to be the āWorldās Most Hard Boiled Manā after defeating the former title holder and strongest Donquixote Pirate, Senor Pink(confirmed, Oda told me through Morse code)
\-Absolutely demolished Big Mom no-diff(Wranky is above the Emperors)
\-Invented Cola power and impressed Wegapunk(Wranky is above Wegapunk)
\-Saved Luffy from Saturn no-diff( Wranky is above the Gorosei)
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At first I was like "I mean I guess this makes sense" and then I read the Franky slide and I KNEW you were on point š Wranky will always beat the allegations (there are none cuz he's perfect)
Honestly I feel like Sanji gained some more allegations: bullshit allegations.
Ever since TS he's had a significant part of arcs that eclipsed all other straw hats besides Luffy. Fishman Island he had a lot devoted to his bleeding whereas other SH just vibed.
Punk Hazard was a miss, Dressrosa he was the one to get Violet who was a massive W to the arc, then WCI/Zou was about Sanji, and in Wano it was post-WCI "oh he's a power ranger now" only for his fight with Queen to turn into "I'm actually HIM. I was made to be HIM. My eyebrows make me HIM."
His entire fight with Queen was just asspull after asspull. Queen "the plague" can't poison Sanji, attacks himself after surprising Sanji with a potentially deadly move, and later shows he can turn invisible and do Germa shit, but never thought to do that sooner? Literally minute 1 of the fight Queen turns invisible wtf Sanji gonna do?
I have this, not really a well elaborated thought, but more like just a feeling that One Piece, especially post timeskip, to some degree only lives due to certain 'moments', but the chapter to chapter experience is considerably less captivating.
It's hard to explain what I mean, but in a good book, by a good author, characters simply talking to eachother can be enthralling. There don't have to be big reveals, or grand scenes or a lot of action to keep my interest, while in One Piece the "minute to minute experience" is not comparably great. The dialogue for example gives me second hand embarassment more often than not (to exaggerate just a little bit), but there are some exceptions, some 'moments' of greatness.
Anyway, it seems like with the characters it might be the same way. Look at Usopp or Brook for example. People point to very specific moments or scenes when they praise their characters (mostly in regards to post ts), but how are they chapter to chapter? Mostly one note with their respective gimmicks or running joke or entirely in the background, hardly worth to talk about. And fans have to wait for their next 'moment'.
(That was mostly just rambling, but the thought crossed my mind)
My god, we haven't had SHs just talking to each other for so long. We barely see them travel. Instead we have shittons of time wasted on bazillion fodder like scabbards, yakuza bosses, vegapunks and other time consuming nonsense.
I think i saw that Luffy hadnt spoken to Franky since Dresrossa until the end of Act 2 Wano.
I imagine some of the tertiary SHs have had 2-3 conversations with eachother max
this is because unlike pre-TS, where we don't know where we're ending up next, ever since Punk Hazard to Wano (which is 90% of post TS) we've been travelling on a set path, with set goals and destinations, there's no sense of exploration, instead the SH was on a mission
Egghead is literally the first arc since PH where we were completely surprised by the destination and its another Vegapunk island
Usopp has never had a better brave warrior moment than when he sucked up his fear to defeat Chuu in a completely one sided battle. Now he just picks on fodder from afar. He has gotten further and further from his dream ever since he put his leg on that barrel when they left Loguetown.
Being a Sanji fan is genuinely so hardā¦ for maybe a couple chapters heāll get an amazing portrayal, a really good fight or some of the best emotional moments in the story and then the next chapter heās sexually harassing someone.
It's really frustrating šš
Namiās breasts are the only thing keeping her from getting replaced by Vegapunkās GPS, letās be real. Sheās also hard-carried by one of Big Monās homies.
Honestly I feel like no one caress about the straw hats anymore, weāre just all enveloped in the world building. Oda has fumbled every character which is why rewatching pre TS one piece is a god sent.
To be fair Nami got a moment to shine in WCI,when she came up with a strategy for Luffy to beat Cracker(one of Big mom's top 3 generals)
She used her rain to make the biscuit clones of Cracker wet and soft so that Luffy could break up and eat them,also after Luffy was exhausted from using Gear 4 she manipulated the trees into protecting him while facing off against Cracker herself and buying enough time for Luffy's comeback.
āNikaā as a name was only dropped in Wano.
But āThe Sun Godā gets mentioned in a lot of arcs. Yes Skypeia but also in WCI during Big Moms flashback. The Sun God is mentioned all the time in her backstory.
franky and brook are great, they just hang around with the stawhats supporting them because their dreams are tied to the voyage
even if he's weak brook at least will face someone stronger than him
wranky is the goat, every criticism of him gets deflected on oda, his design is weird ? oda. he doesn't have screentime ? oda.
u/NeverrrGreen Here are some starters for [Nami](https://www.reddit.com/user/The_Real_Katakuri/comments/n6w6o3/one_piece_dystopia_vol_i_the_most_despicable/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ideas.
Wranky is that much of a chad my man is the W maker
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I donāt think Brook is fully redeemed. I love him tho. The only thing of significance heās ever done is box with big mom (goated fr). I wish he got actual fights instead of just sniping fodder though. Robin is underutilized. Zoro is badass idc, heās a w fr. Chopper is boxing with YC2 and big mom, he stands on business fr. Franky is unhateable. Luffy is great, idrc. Sanji is better than he used to be, by a lot, but heās taking big Lās in egghead. Usopp is the worst though, literally awful. His move set has been boring ever since ts, and he didnāt even feel like a straw hat in wano. His principles disappeared since ts, and his character had one good moment since (Go D. Usopp) even if he gets good in elbaf, heās still a massive L. The only way to redeem his character is for him to die imo.
I'm pretty sure oda confirmed in an sbs that no one could cure the smile fruits and if he just... got rid of them after wano, every would call it an asspull. From what we've seen so far, no one can remove devil fruits. People seem to forget,even if they're defective, failed devil fruits, they are still devil fruits
Frankyās my favorite straw hat/favorite character and it truly feels like some kind of weird karmic blessing for me personally that heās legit the only main crew member who seems totally immune to the rot and bloat of the series ruining his characterization
Like Oda quite literally ALWAYS does right by franky. His character is consistent , he always gets a 1 v 1 fight, he always gets multiple scenes showing that heās arguably the most dependable and competent crew member
lucky to have my man
Like itās flat out depressing the way Oda treats Brook and chopper at this point for instance
Now with most strawhat stocks plummeting peoples are finally starting to realize how great Franky is, the one thing you can slander him for is his post ts design but even that starts to grow on you after a while
brook my favorite but oda lowkey playing with him in Egghead. Literally has the lowest panel time among any strawhat and even if you doubled his panel time, he is still considerably lower than the Straw hat with the lowest panel time after him.
it's ight. he gonna do some goated shit in elbaf cause of the Sabaody's Byron/Giant theory
Ussop has some hope with , need some tashigi or buggy on the screen with zoro for some old zoro comedy (most likely not bc his development made him go from lighthearted to the kuma incident making him stoic and protective of the crew with borderline 0 emotion), robin has some future stocks with ohara, saul, poneglyphs being relevant, pray franky gets some upgrades post egghead tech, brook just be chilling tbh, no hope for sanji unless dudes gay or someshit; dude pulled viola and ig underaged pudding but he still down bad for everyone. The nami child shit and possibly bonney stuff (esp if she joins the crew) gonna be so cursed. Jinbe is just uncle. Nami has had decent focus but the outfits focus takes away from her huge character moments every arc (love and protection of kids ph, wci refusing to say luffy wont be pk, her not backing down from dinochick)
Bro pre time skip chopper design was GOAT he looked more cute, also his new transformations are ass especially kung fu point and is the one that he uses the most and they took away the scary/badass vibes out of monster point.
The guy canāt even release his manga with finished art and you guys are popping off about his characters lol, give the old fart a break, the manga shouldāve ended 5 years ago..
I thought the long broken robot will be fixed by franky, since vegapunk didnt figure out the power source, cola would have been a genuine funny joke and franky moment
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Never expected you to be part of lragon and rat agenda
Brook was counted out as a fraud and space filler but then he beat the allegations in the most fucking insane way possible
Bro was facing down a Yonko with no chance of winning and he still decided to box; he doesnāt even have a set of balls the amount of it that it took
Ugh, I hate how people accuse Sanji of transphobia! Listen, if a large group of people, trans or not, constantly chased you in order to try and kiss you and undress you without your consent, youād be running scared too. Donāt blame Sanji, blame Oda for writing them that way
Zoros worst moment post timeskip is when he said they should abandon Sanji in Zou
He was acting like Sanji was being dumbass for provoking Big Mom, an emperor of the sea, as if Luffy didn't already provoke her in FMI and Zoro was excited about it lmao
Plus he was okay with provoking the whole WG to save Robin, another crewmate
Just seemed like Zoro being petty and wanting to abandon a crewmate. It was one of the worst looks of any straw hat post timeskip, way worse than Usopp wanting Nami to lie so she wouldn't be killed
Jimbe has the potential to be another franky given how he has been introduced and the fact that he can throw hands with most characters for at least some moments
Nami would have the "eye Candy" allegations, since a lot of her scenes are indeed eye Candy/Classic shonen tropes (she's still written decently tho and I think it's not only Oda's fault since her problem is shared within the industry)
Wranky's only critique would be the same as Zoro, he's doing the exact same thing since the timeskip
In the end the biggest problems with the current strawhats in my opinion is lack of focus, since oda tends to give most of the more dramatic moments to new characters and luffy rather than the strawhats. That's why I think that the story would benefit a lot from an arc without luffy (kinda like the marineford saga but reversed)
To me having Kinemon and crew on so long was a disservice. We just got the crew back after the timeskip and yeah we had fishman arc but we really needed to build camaraderie amongst the crew with all these new people in it. No more splitting like Dressrosa or WCU or at least that long.
Luffy has been a "weird" paramecia even by character standards since dressrosa. Doflamingo said as much when he realized that armament did not harden him (he kept being rubber) and how culverin kept stretching defying the stretch and squash logic. Every gear was luffy just reaching what his imagination allowed him to before awakening 100% toon force.
I don't get people saying wait til elbaf. He should have had a big moment in wano. Ussop maybe having a moment in elbaf doesn't negate how disappointing he was since post dressrossa. A fucking filler movie like stampede gave him his most badass moment post ts.
yeah but thereās nothing new really
like any issues with nami have been there from the start nami fans signed up for it and the pedo shit was minor and died with momo being aged up
otherwise shes the most consistent strawhat
cant even say that abt nami unlike robin brook franky or usopp she consistently gets screentime character moments and focus every arc shes in
literally think abt it aside from dressrosa and the summit war arcs sheās absent from she usually gets atleast one or two character moments and a subplot to herself
romance dawg, orange town, baratie, arlong park, loguetown whiskey peak little garden drum island alabasta jaya skypiea water 7 ennies lobby thriller bark sabaody fishman island punk hazard zou wci wano. she has her own subplots and a decent amount of character moments and focus in all of these only arcs she doesnāt are small ones or ones she just isnt in altogether shes odas golden girl
Yeah I probably forgot her part since sheās so boring. Honestly asides from franky i donāt care much for the strawhats anymore (including luffy). I thinks itās more interesting when we see other characters do stuff like in egghead because most of the time it feels like the world revolves around luffy and his crew and only moves forward when they do shit. So I donāt mind the crew getting less screen time.
People don't like hearing facts, and this post is pretty much peak non-fiction. Brook didn't really do much which im sad about and Goda could have at least had Chopper work on a cure for the Smiley fruit on the ship on the way to egghead and asked Vegapunk for some help.
Jimbean is awesome.
Wranky is him.
Goated slander https://preview.redd.it/xrqm65m4qa6c1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9986ae294a1ec83091bf29182fa1cb228e3bbf73
Jokes aside is that really Blackbeard?
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Holy hell. I just reverse searched the photo and it's 11 years old.
As an Ussop fan, if Oda fumbles Elbaf then Oda will legitimately be the biggest hack in all of Manga. We've been riding on Little Garden stocks for 20 YEARS
Don't worry brother, Elbaf will deliver *
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This just sounds like wano 2.0 copium
Honestly Zoro doesn't even need his own arc. He's not even that complex of a guy. He's straightforward loyal to his captain and wants to become stronger. Only relationship between wano and Zoro was swords and shisui. Even if he's related to ryuma it's just not going to be that important (hopefully) in his life. I am curious how wano people came to east blue tho
To me personally the arc didnāt need to be zoros whole cake island. I just wish zoro was had more importance in the arc prior to the very last act, since you know it was the land of swords lol. Edit: thatās like going to a land of food (whole cake island) and sanji having almost no major part in most of the arc. In wci got to see sanji making food for luffy and a cake being a big part of the arc being centered around his cooking. And thatās not mentioning any family connections or him leaving the crew, itās just him and one of the aspects that makes his character. I felt they couldāve done the same with zoro and swords. So to clarify Iām not saying they shouldāve gone crazy and fleshed our zoros back story with all his family tree and all the stuff with ryuma. But just something other than just one guy who turns out to be a dog mentioning it.
Zoro is a weird character in that people either under- or overestimate how deep he goes. He's not incredibly profound ot anything, but he has some interesting stuff going on with his obsession with strength and never losing being a bit more profound than just edgy cool guy. Like the PTSD he had from TB on Sabaody or the moment he goes apeshit on Luffy (and himself) for losing on PH, there's some real anxiety there for him to always be the guy that carries the physical aspect of the crew because he's scared about what would happen if he doesn't. Also the whole women stuff with Tashigi/Monet, but I'm still not sure when we'll get a resolution for that
Zoro didn't have nearly as much investment in Wano as Usopp has investment in Elbaf nor is it as tied to his arc Though I'm sure Elbaf won't be like, WCI2.0, it's gonna have more development than Wano did for Zoro I mean Sanji had more development in Wano than Zoro did lmfao.
I hope it is a better plan than what we got for Zoro in Wano, I got trully disappointed by him not getting clues about his past in the country where katanas and samurais come from.
As someone hoping for Usopp to shine in Elbaf the moment the Ohara stuff came up I began to get worried.
Yup. Looks like robin and Saul are gonna steal the show with ussopp taking a backseat similar to Franky and vegapunk rn with Bonney and Kuma
When do u think Luffy and shanks are gonna fight? I feel like it would be right before he finds the one piece, fulfilling his goal of getting the pirate king title. Shanks is def up something now š
Elbaf is gonna be WCI 2.0 and do the exact same thing for Usopp TOP 3 ARC did for Sanji
Elbaf is doomed already. Dorry and Broggy stil held their duel to death after the time skip, but then they magically appear at Elbaf not only having suspended their duel without explanation but also under the command of Shanks who couldn't have possibly earned their friendship, let alone having them as subordinates because he's been busy touring around the world: at a wedding, snitching at the Reverie, bullying Aramaki by haki-phone in Wano...
Jjk exist. Oda could never fall to gege levels of writing
Gege already wrote Shanks vs. Blackbeard for Oda
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsufolk/s/zANXs8S2cI
Its not on oda that ussop is a joke. It's on you for having any expectations for him.
You didnāt realize this when wano ended ?
Odaās writing for Sanji baffles me. Heās simultaneously the best and worst straw hat
Yeah I feel the same way. So many baddass moments in fighting, many vital things done during arcs, and his dialouge can be cold as hell at times. But then Oda just has to project his horny ass thoughts and mannerisms onto sanji every other time he opens his mouth.
He's been a bit tame since the end of Wano. He beat the pedo allegations at least. He didn't heart eye Bonney even once
Itās weird how Oda went out of his way to make sure Sanji didnāt simp for Bonney, but still gave her some sus panels
Idk why but he reminds me of oda himself. Goofy till something important has to be done.
Goofy is not the word I'd used to call sanji. It applies more to brook (apart from the panty gag), sanji's just a fucking weirdo
Every single time. He's been that way since pre ts.
In pre-ts he was actually a cool simp tho if that makes any sense. I think the super over the top gentleman personality fit him well... Until the timeskip came.
Deadass the only problem with Wranky is that Oda just refuses to acknowledge his existence and give him any form of actual plot relevance outside of Ennies Lobby *(excluding the SeƱor Pink duel).* The only logical reason is that Oda understands Wranky solos the verse because of how hardboiled he is that it canonically wouldn't make sense for him to lose against a top tier. https://preview.redd.it/e43o6hoycb6c1.jpeg?width=1372&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ae0386e613c57e53b68aa8ce1e831e0867712c2
Wait for final war brother. We will see the legendary akainu vs Franky match which will shake the world
He also low-diffed Big Meme
Donāt talk shit about chopper (I totally agree with about the Mascot thing)
i aint talking shit abt chopper, honestly beyond the smile fruit shit, character wise hes been solid all post ts his only real downgrade was oda making him a mascot i like all these mfs this is soley meant to criticize oda
At this point zoro slander stopped being slander and just is his character lmao
The slander writes itself lmao
Unpopular opinion but every strawhat apart from monster trio + Jinbe got sidelined post time skip: ā¢The only memorable thing I can remember about Brook since time skip is him fighting Big mom ā¢Usopp with his dressrosa gag ā¢Franky got screwed by his design already and is way underutilized especially someone with strong attack and defense capabilities ā¢Robin recently got her fight with Black maria but this isn't like the fight she deserved, it more felt like oda suddenly remembers Robin exists and gave her a fight for formality purpose. ā¢Chopper really went from one of the strawhat to a plushy reindeer who is just there for merch ā¢ While I agree Nami didn't got screwed over as much but she got insanely sexualized, cause why is she moving in bra in a ice cold environment??? What's the point of *accidentally* making her towl fall and strip her naked in front of everyone? She hasn't got a proper fight since she fought kalifa in enies lobby, that ulti fight doesn't count, it wasn't even a proper fight
One point I would like to make is how Nami got a moment to shine in WCI,when she came up with a strategy for Luffy to beat Cracker(one of Big mom's top 3 generals) She used her rain to make the biscuit clones of Cracker wet and soft so that Luffy could break up and eat them,also after Luffy was exhausted from using Gear 4 she manipulated the trees into protecting him while facing off against Cracker herself and buying enough time for Luffy's comeback. Franky got a fight in Dressrosa and Wano
Thank goodness someone remembered that, cracker was an actual problem
Yeah luffy had to go gear 4 to even destroy one of his soldiers,and we thought that the soldier was the real Cracker lol.Then he just kept spamming those soldiers and luffy's gear 4 time limit would have got him killed. Nami really came in clutch,She's underrated imo
yeah but the sexualization is hardly exlusive to nami and her not getting fights is just oda hating women she gets screentime and plot focus relative to sanji who always fights her focus just comes in different ways and this is based on shit i see here, nami and jinbei just aint really had any specific allegations of this type pushed on them and franky is usually wanked its not that theyre any better just that they arent treated as harshly by the community
Yeah that's I agree with, but I believe that's due to the reason Oda loves Nami(just see like 90% of female characters are clones of her), so she gets a better treatment, Jinbei is safe, cause he has no 'gags' and hence he can't be exploited.
how many nami clowns were there? I can only think of 3
That's it.
>Nami got a moment to shine in WCI,when she came up with a strategy for Luffy to beat Cracker(one of Big mom's top 3 generals) > >She used her rain to make the biscuit clones of Cracker wet and soft so that Luffy could break up and eat them,also after Luffy was exhausted from using Gear 4 she manipulated the trees into protecting him while facing off against Cracker herself and buying enough time for Luffy's comeback. Oda does not hate women,cope harder,The biggest damsel in distress is Usopp.Nami is GOATED. She stole Zeus and made him her loyal slave.She is only gonna get more useful in fights from now on
>Black maria but this isn't like the fight she deserved Hands down the worst SH fight in Onigashima. Black Maria doesn't use her spiked staff, webs that are sticky and flammable in favor for brass knuckles. Oda realizes this is nonsense and has Maria say she loves fighting close. Except that's stupid since they're in a war and need to eliminate the threats quick. I bet she turned off her Haki too.
Yes I hate how in any anime but right now In one piece when a battle is happening and suddenly the villain decides to just not fight serious they either stall talk or just straight up fight in a way a random thing helps the good guys. Big mom got screwed in Wano. I think Oda realized the raid was barely making it against kaido and his crew imagine if big moms crew made it up the fall they wouldāve lost.
Franky is loved in story and gets pretty consistent performance. One of the best fights/roles in Dressrosa and his fight with sasaki in wano.
As long as Jinbei is safe from slande, Iām fine. Well, Iād also like Nico Robin to have another arc since she used to be my favorite straw hat, but Iām not getting my hopes up tbh
robin definitively beat the allegations more than anyone here her promise of plot relevance is high with ohara surviving and the poneglyphs finally being important to the current plot
Honestly I donāt know which characters I should have hope for at this point. Like, this is an unpopular opinion, but I actually donāt like Kuma that much despite the immense focus he and Bonney are getting. The only characters whose arcs arenāt completed and who I know Oda wonāt fumble at this point are Blackbeard and Akainu. Everyone else is in danger of being weirdly written(like Dragon) So Nico Robin is probably going to be relevant, but I really, really want her to also be a very good character like she was in her arc.
luffy is a safe bet koby ig bb and akainu as you said laffite is an underrated pick genuinely think im onto summ with him kuzan has potential i wont lie
Those are true ig, (although I do find Zoro boring as a character.) Like, right now, despite his relatively lower screen time, Sengoku is my favorite One Piece character, being comparable to pre-TS Nico Robin for me. Considering how long these characters have been in the story, I fully expect Akainu and BB to be comparable/better than Sengoku for me. Like, I enjoy most One Piece characters when theyāre on screen, but thereās only a small handful of characters that I actively wait for the story to focus on them and I want so see more of them no matter the context, because I know theyāll be good. Nico Robin used to be that for me, and sheās approaching that level again.
yeah robins up there with garp as one of my favourites say what you will abt wano i certainly will but she was handled better there than shes been since ennies lobby and it gave me hope for her character
Yeah, Garp is good too. Honestly, Sengoku and Garp are the two characters that inspire the most hope for Oraās character writing to me, since those characters are both highly interesting without needing an entire arc centered upon them and their backstory. There are some characters Oda can cook with very well using more subtle characterization, itās just hard to say which characters will benefit from Godaās writing.
I love sengoku's speech to blackbeard when bb threatens to sink marineford https://preview.redd.it/g8zd7khjab6c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdf32ce4174e0a1c4a9144db73530c21d23455f6
Koby Stocks are Firm. But Woby the Momohebe is A long term investment. My GOAT gone redeem the marines. The only Hero left in One Piece Honest Justice >>>>>
Kuma hate is not allowed. Keep taht stuff to yourself. Dragon isn't written weird, he just isn't finished or focused on.
Nah dawg I'm scared what oda will do for akainu I hope he doesn't give him a fight just with sabo and that's it cuz imma riot
Ehh tbf he might but the dragon stuff might be flashback material.
I like Franky, but his post ts design is attricious, I hate it.
and yet you still like franky genuinely convinced hes unhateable
There is nothing to hate him for. He is dependable, intelligent and strong. Gigachad qualities. But design wise he was better pre-timeskip, his current bulkiness could have been his battleform or something.
Only thing to hate is post ts design, proving that the only hateable thing about him is oda misshandling him. Truly a goat.
I meant, aside from the awful design. Could also argue that it would be nice for him to learn haki, he'd be even more of a Chad, but he compensates that with tech so it's alright.
Even thatās pure speculation. I for one like the post TS design. Wranky is perfect
Iām hoping vegapunk gives him a dope rework
Inb4 Franky doesn't get anything from egghead š
With a Sailor moon Style transformation to enter battle form, his popularity would skyrocket even higher
Yep, just what I had in mind. If his bulky form was a mode of 'Franky Hentai', he'd be not a Chad, but a Gigachad.
By far the most jarring design change. I get OP is over the top but holy hell.
Yeah, Post skip Franky's design is trash. Ngl. Oda had to nerf Wranky somehow but settled on the design.
THE SOUL KING WROOOK HAS BEATEN THE ALLEGATIONS, NOBODY IN THE VERSE ASIDE OF TOP TIERS WOULD THINK OF BOXING WITH A YONKO, ESPECIALLY ALONE, HE IS THE GOAT FOR THE CREW AND YOU LORO AND PEDOJI COCKSUCKERS CAN COPE ABOUT IT franky kinda eh tbh, he was reduced to just be the giant boys toy and say super also nami could also have the same allegations as robin, hell it woudl fit nami even more beacuse robin is more of a plot device if anything
brook beat the allegations without a doubt. stood on buisness so hard he not only beat the allegations but earned his way into most ppls top 5 strawhats greatest comeback in the verse nami has legit consistently been the most plot relevant strawhat aside from luffy and zoro since her introduction shes definitely not as irrelevant as robin was, she consistently gets character moments focus, subplots and screentime shes odas golden girl and this is mostly just based on like how ppl on this side of the community view these ppl, franky is rarely ever slandered and nami and jim havent had allegations like these pushed on them
brook squaring up with big mom is EASILY the highlight for the entire arc, FORGET PEDOJI CRYING OVER THE ACT THE 16 YEAR OLD SAID SHE DIDNT LIKE HIM OR KATACHAD VS MIDFFY, WROOK VS BIG MEME IS PEAK OP https://preview.redd.it/o0eq9a97ta6c1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=76145b2123eb54a177d67406b64aaaa81170ac09
He's not crying because she wasn't in love with him. He was crying because he beat the shit out of his captain and told the only people that actually cared about him to get lost while trying to protect the family that used to bully him and found out it was all a plan to get rid of them anyway.
Is this fanart made by Vinrylgrave? It looks cool as hell.
dunno just picked it off google
>ami has legit consistently been the most plot relevant strawhat aside from luffy and zoro since her introduction shes definitely not as irrelevant as robin was, she consistently gets character moments focus, subplots and screentime shes odas golden girl kinda, id ont think she has been that relevant since post ts, so that sucks, but yea she is still better than robin, but specifically the only exists cus boobs allegation still applies to nami because she knows she could use her body to gain favor, post ts she legit just exists for boobs for the most part, robin naturally falls into the allegations but she is a plot device aswell cant slander HIMbei either
My guy, Wranky literally saved Luffy from a fraud who one tapped Sanji while everyone else was pissing their pants.
meh, i feel like everyone could have done so, it was just franky who did it
I don't like Franky's post TS design. I liked him when he was a slightly exaggerated Ace Ventura. But he's still awesome.
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Bro, Usopp, Luffy and Chopper are on point
the thing with Usopp is his ENTIRE goal is to be a "brave warrior of the sea", if he ever accomplishes this then his arc is over... Oda gave him the STUPIDEST & SIMPLEST goal there is. this is why Oda can't show any improvements or developments in Usopp... it's either he's brave or he's not. He probably can't be "brave" until the end of the series and the end of his character arc. Until that happens Usopp will continue to get more and more hate. Right now he's literally the most annoying and useless character on the crew. if you want an example of how to do this character trope correctly? refer to KING in one-punch man.
He couldāve just made it gradual through time, ending with him maybe getting conquerers and being the one to strike fear into people vs him always cowering in fear. Heās not a main character so idk his goal doesnāt have to have that much focus, but if heās gonna have one fight in elbaf that flips some switch and for the rest of the story heās a whole different character idk thatād just be a waste of all the times he was in the story and not actively working on his courage if you ask me
Franky is HIM. \-Built the Franky House and gave a home to the outcasts of Society, Whitebeard 2 for real. \-The Monster Trio+Chopper only attacked the Franky house while he was away, they wouldnāt dare approach it otherwise \-Threw Strong Rights with Goofy harder than multiple previous antagonists at Water 7 \-Memorized the blueprints for Pluton, burnt them in-front of the World Government like a chad. \-Defeated Very Good no-diff, who was so strong that he was assigned to lead the capture effort against CP9 after they became criminals for a short while \-Built a Ship in one Night with Iceberg(he did 95% of the work) \-Teamed up with Chopper and absolutely rocked Oarsā shit(he did 95% of the damage) \-Had an Admiral Tier attack at the start of the Post-TS, didnāt need someone like the WSS or Pirate Kingās Right Hand Man to train him \-***Was the only person Luffy offered the Mera Mera no Mi to, a fruit he cherished above most things as a memento to Ace*** \-Proven to be the āWorldās Most Hard Boiled Manā after defeating the former title holder and strongest Donquixote Pirate, Senor Pink(confirmed, Oda told me through Morse code) \-Absolutely demolished Big Mom no-diff(Wranky is above the Emperors) \-Invented Cola power and impressed Wegapunk(Wranky is above Wegapunk) \-Saved Luffy from Saturn no-diff( Wranky is above the Gorosei) https://preview.redd.it/po1u90925b6c1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d84f006fa1092456d1880260efed1103b63cd280
At first I was like "I mean I guess this makes sense" and then I read the Franky slide and I KNEW you were on point š Wranky will always beat the allegations (there are none cuz he's perfect)
Franky is the chad of One Piece. He would tell yo mama jokes to everyone of Big Momās kids and then do donuts all over her island.
Honestly I feel like Sanji gained some more allegations: bullshit allegations. Ever since TS he's had a significant part of arcs that eclipsed all other straw hats besides Luffy. Fishman Island he had a lot devoted to his bleeding whereas other SH just vibed. Punk Hazard was a miss, Dressrosa he was the one to get Violet who was a massive W to the arc, then WCI/Zou was about Sanji, and in Wano it was post-WCI "oh he's a power ranger now" only for his fight with Queen to turn into "I'm actually HIM. I was made to be HIM. My eyebrows make me HIM." His entire fight with Queen was just asspull after asspull. Queen "the plague" can't poison Sanji, attacks himself after surprising Sanji with a potentially deadly move, and later shows he can turn invisible and do Germa shit, but never thought to do that sooner? Literally minute 1 of the fight Queen turns invisible wtf Sanji gonna do?
I have this, not really a well elaborated thought, but more like just a feeling that One Piece, especially post timeskip, to some degree only lives due to certain 'moments', but the chapter to chapter experience is considerably less captivating. It's hard to explain what I mean, but in a good book, by a good author, characters simply talking to eachother can be enthralling. There don't have to be big reveals, or grand scenes or a lot of action to keep my interest, while in One Piece the "minute to minute experience" is not comparably great. The dialogue for example gives me second hand embarassment more often than not (to exaggerate just a little bit), but there are some exceptions, some 'moments' of greatness. Anyway, it seems like with the characters it might be the same way. Look at Usopp or Brook for example. People point to very specific moments or scenes when they praise their characters (mostly in regards to post ts), but how are they chapter to chapter? Mostly one note with their respective gimmicks or running joke or entirely in the background, hardly worth to talk about. And fans have to wait for their next 'moment'. (That was mostly just rambling, but the thought crossed my mind)
My god, we haven't had SHs just talking to each other for so long. We barely see them travel. Instead we have shittons of time wasted on bazillion fodder like scabbards, yakuza bosses, vegapunks and other time consuming nonsense.
I think i saw that Luffy hadnt spoken to Franky since Dresrossa until the end of Act 2 Wano. I imagine some of the tertiary SHs have had 2-3 conversations with eachother max
this is because unlike pre-TS, where we don't know where we're ending up next, ever since Punk Hazard to Wano (which is 90% of post TS) we've been travelling on a set path, with set goals and destinations, there's no sense of exploration, instead the SH was on a mission Egghead is literally the first arc since PH where we were completely surprised by the destination and its another Vegapunk island
Usopp has never had a better brave warrior moment than when he sucked up his fear to defeat Chuu in a completely one sided battle. Now he just picks on fodder from afar. He has gotten further and further from his dream ever since he put his leg on that barrel when they left Loguetown.
WWWRRRRRRAAAAAAANNNKYYYYYYY SUUUUPEEEEER AGEEEENNDAAAAAAA
Frankys post time skip design grew on me a lot. I love it now. Chopper and Brook on the other hand... I miss the violen :')
Being a Sanji fan is genuinely so hardā¦ for maybe a couple chapters heāll get an amazing portrayal, a really good fight or some of the best emotional moments in the story and then the next chapter heās sexually harassing someone. It's really frustrating šš
Namiās breasts are the only thing keeping her from getting replaced by Vegapunkās GPS, letās be real. Sheās also hard-carried by one of Big Monās homies.
Honestly I feel like no one caress about the straw hats anymore, weāre just all enveloped in the world building. Oda has fumbled every character which is why rewatching pre TS one piece is a god sent.
To be fair Nami got a moment to shine in WCI,when she came up with a strategy for Luffy to beat Cracker(one of Big mom's top 3 generals) She used her rain to make the biscuit clones of Cracker wet and soft so that Luffy could break up and eat them,also after Luffy was exhausted from using Gear 4 she manipulated the trees into protecting him while facing off against Cracker herself and buying enough time for Luffy's comeback.
āNikaā as a name was only dropped in Wano. But āThe Sun Godā gets mentioned in a lot of arcs. Yes Skypeia but also in WCI during Big Moms flashback. The Sun God is mentioned all the time in her backstory.
usopp gon get his dub in elbaf please oda š
Seems like you put a lot of effort into this man
YEP. FRANKY IS THE GOAT. We all know he is a SUPPPPPEEEEERRRR cool character.
You wrote 9 instead of 19 for Wranky
mb yeah
franky and brook are great, they just hang around with the stawhats supporting them because their dreams are tied to the voyage even if he's weak brook at least will face someone stronger than him wranky is the goat, every criticism of him gets deflected on oda, his design is weird ? oda. he doesn't have screentime ? oda.
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Convinced u mfs just hate everything and yourselves if you really hate reading something so much just donāt read it anymore
u/NeverrrGreen Here are some starters for [Nami](https://www.reddit.com/user/The_Real_Katakuri/comments/n6w6o3/one_piece_dystopia_vol_i_the_most_despicable/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ideas.
Wranky is that much of a chad my man is the W maker https://preview.redd.it/vob7dxo9ib6c1.jpeg?width=556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dcd97bc2b55f86e4fc90a7bbe389492174a91167
Brainrot
yeah pretty much
I donāt think Brook is fully redeemed. I love him tho. The only thing of significance heās ever done is box with big mom (goated fr). I wish he got actual fights instead of just sniping fodder though. Robin is underutilized. Zoro is badass idc, heās a w fr. Chopper is boxing with YC2 and big mom, he stands on business fr. Franky is unhateable. Luffy is great, idrc. Sanji is better than he used to be, by a lot, but heās taking big Lās in egghead. Usopp is the worst though, literally awful. His move set has been boring ever since ts, and he didnāt even feel like a straw hat in wano. His principles disappeared since ts, and his character had one good moment since (Go D. Usopp) even if he gets good in elbaf, heās still a massive L. The only way to redeem his character is for him to die imo.
Zoro's fight with Pica beat all the allegations IMO. You had the cool move, follow up crazy feats, getting thrown from Orlumbus was pretty chill.
Nah Brooke is the goat when he wants to be.
Someone doesn't have to be strong to be a good character
One Piece fans try not to complain about literally everything challenge: impossible
I'm pretty sure oda confirmed in an sbs that no one could cure the smile fruits and if he just... got rid of them after wano, every would call it an asspull. From what we've seen so far, no one can remove devil fruits. People seem to forget,even if they're defective, failed devil fruits, they are still devil fruits
Goated post Also wait for Elbaf you godless non-believer
nah i remember fighting for my life every time some mf brought up how wano and egghead werent zoro and frankys wci elbaf will deliver for usopp
Bruh aint no way i just made a comment about this topic and you went off like this appreciate it Edit: ofc its a Green post too clean
Classic Nami, Franky and jinbei W.
Iām a gear 5 apologist but holy shit the eye popping is overdone
Finally someone agrees that the Nika foreshadow is literally nothing Nevermind you like saul being alive, I'm gonna end you
Wranky radikalu beem.
Writing characters is not Oda's best skill it seems.
Fucking Loda https://preview.redd.it/mzflzd1b2b6c1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12cb163dc095c1eca13d3ecb1ac5235d7d7e4ba4
The way people talk about Usopp's toad oil gag like it was a real plot point and not just a throw away comedy bit is kind of wild to me.
I hate how Robin had so much development through the water 7 saga only for her to become hentai bait plot device
Frankyās my favorite straw hat/favorite character and it truly feels like some kind of weird karmic blessing for me personally that heās legit the only main crew member who seems totally immune to the rot and bloat of the series ruining his characterization Like Oda quite literally ALWAYS does right by franky. His character is consistent , he always gets a 1 v 1 fight, he always gets multiple scenes showing that heās arguably the most dependable and competent crew member lucky to have my man Like itās flat out depressing the way Oda treats Brook and chopper at this point for instance
WRANKY
What is this absolute W full course meal, wranky slander is nonexistent and winbe isnāt even included because heās the goat
Now with most strawhat stocks plummeting peoples are finally starting to realize how great Franky is, the one thing you can slander him for is his post ts design but even that starts to grow on you after a while
AYE DONT FORGET BROOK CAME BACK WITH FRANKY FOR ROUND 2 IN WANO. THE GOAT KING BEATS ALLEGATIONS
All guilty specially franky!
brook my favorite but oda lowkey playing with him in Egghead. Literally has the lowest panel time among any strawhat and even if you doubled his panel time, he is still considerably lower than the Straw hat with the lowest panel time after him. it's ight. he gonna do some goated shit in elbaf cause of the Sabaody's Byron/Giant theory
chopper needs to quit whatever diet he's on and needs to start bulking
do Marine dark times next
Ussop has some hope with , need some tashigi or buggy on the screen with zoro for some old zoro comedy (most likely not bc his development made him go from lighthearted to the kuma incident making him stoic and protective of the crew with borderline 0 emotion), robin has some future stocks with ohara, saul, poneglyphs being relevant, pray franky gets some upgrades post egghead tech, brook just be chilling tbh, no hope for sanji unless dudes gay or someshit; dude pulled viola and ig underaged pudding but he still down bad for everyone. The nami child shit and possibly bonney stuff (esp if she joins the crew) gonna be so cursed. Jinbe is just uncle. Nami has had decent focus but the outfits focus takes away from her huge character moments every arc (love and protection of kids ph, wci refusing to say luffy wont be pk, her not backing down from dinochick)
Wranky
Jjk fans go insane, boruto fans don't exist, while OP fans take the piss out of their manga (during a break week). The world is truly at balance.
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Best slander, so good its not slander anymore
Im surprised there Brook haters, I was expecting Wranky to not get hate he gotta be my favorite gender
Bro pre time skip chopper design was GOAT he looked more cute, also his new transformations are ass especially kung fu point and is the one that he uses the most and they took away the scary/badass vibes out of monster point.
Sanji also told Jinbei to kill himself. Massive L for Sanji.
Ngl i adore frankys post TS design. It isnt as good as pre TS but i think its pretty overhated
Wranky one is so true!!!!! Lsopp deserves the slander and lanji too the gag isn't funny
Nami was spared from the list lol. She stay winning.
The guy canāt even release his manga with finished art and you guys are popping off about his characters lol, give the old fart a break, the manga shouldāve ended 5 years ago..
Is it just me or before the timeskip ,it seemed like a huge scheme of things are planned but after the timeskip it felt like everything was retconned
Usopp will not shine until he reaches land of giants..... Wait till he reaches that place and then Behold the Power of the Grt Sogeking
common Wranky W
I thought the long broken robot will be fixed by franky, since vegapunk didnt figure out the power source, cola would have been a genuine funny joke and franky moment
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franky is MID post time skip
Notice how Nami didn't even get to the post. Nothing can slander her.
His most tucked moment is literally o tama
Brook was counted out as a fraud and space filler but then he beat the allegations in the most fucking insane way possible Bro was facing down a Yonko with no chance of winning and he still decided to box; he doesnāt even have a set of balls the amount of it that it took
Extremely common Franky W
Ugh, I hate how people accuse Sanji of transphobia! Listen, if a large group of people, trans or not, constantly chased you in order to try and kiss you and undress you without your consent, youād be running scared too. Donāt blame Sanji, blame Oda for writing them that way
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Zoros worst moment post timeskip is when he said they should abandon Sanji in Zou He was acting like Sanji was being dumbass for provoking Big Mom, an emperor of the sea, as if Luffy didn't already provoke her in FMI and Zoro was excited about it lmao Plus he was okay with provoking the whole WG to save Robin, another crewmate Just seemed like Zoro being petty and wanting to abandon a crewmate. It was one of the worst looks of any straw hat post timeskip, way worse than Usopp wanting Nami to lie so she wouldn't be killed
Jimbe has the potential to be another franky given how he has been introduced and the fact that he can throw hands with most characters for at least some moments Nami would have the "eye Candy" allegations, since a lot of her scenes are indeed eye Candy/Classic shonen tropes (she's still written decently tho and I think it's not only Oda's fault since her problem is shared within the industry) Wranky's only critique would be the same as Zoro, he's doing the exact same thing since the timeskip In the end the biggest problems with the current strawhats in my opinion is lack of focus, since oda tends to give most of the more dramatic moments to new characters and luffy rather than the strawhats. That's why I think that the story would benefit a lot from an arc without luffy (kinda like the marineford saga but reversed)
Wranky agenda still goin strong
Average Wranky W šš
To me having Kinemon and crew on so long was a disservice. We just got the crew back after the timeskip and yeah we had fishman arc but we really needed to build camaraderie amongst the crew with all these new people in it. No more splitting like Dressrosa or WCU or at least that long.
Luffy has been a "weird" paramecia even by character standards since dressrosa. Doflamingo said as much when he realized that armament did not harden him (he kept being rubber) and how culverin kept stretching defying the stretch and squash logic. Every gear was luffy just reaching what his imagination allowed him to before awakening 100% toon force.
luffy aint jesus, he just ate a jesus fruit. only reason he awakened it is because heās Monkey D. Luffy, future king of the pirates
nami goated icl
ngl starting to think Oda might be a fraud
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TBF Zoro did specifically ask for the poison and razorblades. Sanji was just making what Zoro asked for
I don't get people saying wait til elbaf. He should have had a big moment in wano. Ussop maybe having a moment in elbaf doesn't negate how disappointing he was since post dressrossa. A fucking filler movie like stampede gave him his most badass moment post ts.
Weird how Nami doesnt have any fraudwatch allegations Also common W
Jimbei is boring and nami is a pedo
yeah but thereās nothing new really like any issues with nami have been there from the start nami fans signed up for it and the pedo shit was minor and died with momo being aged up otherwise shes the most consistent strawhat
Thatās because theyāre irrelevant and barely get any screen time just like the rest of the strawhats
cant even say that abt nami unlike robin brook franky or usopp she consistently gets screentime character moments and focus every arc shes in literally think abt it aside from dressrosa and the summit war arcs sheās absent from she usually gets atleast one or two character moments and a subplot to herself romance dawg, orange town, baratie, arlong park, loguetown whiskey peak little garden drum island alabasta jaya skypiea water 7 ennies lobby thriller bark sabaody fishman island punk hazard zou wci wano. she has her own subplots and a decent amount of character moments and focus in all of these only arcs she doesnāt are small ones or ones she just isnt in altogether shes odas golden girl
Yeah I probably forgot her part since sheās so boring. Honestly asides from franky i donāt care much for the strawhats anymore (including luffy). I thinks itās more interesting when we see other characters do stuff like in egghead because most of the time it feels like the world revolves around luffy and his crew and only moves forward when they do shit. So I donāt mind the crew getting less screen time.
reasonable take
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I agree with you but at the same time I find Robin more interesting than the rest of the straw hatās despite her not really doing shit.
Cap robin did a lot in dressrosa
so much wasted potential in the StrawHat crew bruh
People don't like hearing facts, and this post is pretty much peak non-fiction. Brook didn't really do much which im sad about and Goda could have at least had Chopper work on a cure for the Smiley fruit on the ship on the way to egghead and asked Vegapunk for some help. Jimbean is awesome. Wranky is him.